#sound disappears randomly

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violet bear
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i already posted about this but i thought the issue was solved (haha random problem go brrr)
all i know is that i use pulseaudio for sound currently, randomly sound disappears and the only thing that can fix it is starting then killing pipewire
journalctl only show me starting and stopping pulseaudio/pipewire and nothing else

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in case someone says just use pipewire instead i cant, i have pickly apps that only work with one or the other so i need both installed

sharp forum
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violet bear
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`pacman -Q | grep pipewire
lib32-pipewire 1:0.3.65-2
pipewire 1:0.3.65-6
pipewire-alsa 1:0.3.65-6
pipewire-audio 1:0.3.65-6

pacman -Q | grep pulseaudio
pulseaudio 16.1-3`

violet bear
sharp forum
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Something sus

violet bear
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if ![ pgrep '^pulseaudio' > /dev/null; ] then /usr/bin/pulseaudio fi

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all for sound

sharp forum
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Like u might run a random bash script which did that

violet bear
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i kill it and swap to pipewire when i have to

violet bear
sharp forum
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Bruh, there is a package for pipewire setup, it will ask u to delete pulse audio

violet bear
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i might have forced it? idk i need both tho (

sharp forum
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Ur decision, if pulseaudio doesn’t work, u should prob try on pipewire

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Just try searching pipewire on yay

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And show me what packages are there

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Or just yay -S pipewire<TAB> and show me a screenshot

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So I can give u the exact package

violet bear
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yay -Q | grep pipewire lib32-pipewire 1:0.3.65-2 pipewire 1:0.3.65-6 pipewire-alsa 1:0.3.65-6 pipewire-audio 1:0.3.65-6
this?

violet bear
sharp forum
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Tab completion?

sharp forum
violet bear
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i think i might not have advanced completion set up, just the basic command bs

sharp forum
violet bear
sharp forum
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Install it

violet bear
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its installed

sharp forum
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Watt

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How

violet bear
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pacman -Q | grep pipewire lib32-pipewire 1:0.3.65-2 pipewire 1:0.3.65-6 pipewire-alsa 1:0.3.65-6 pipewire-audio 1:0.3.65-6

violet bear
sharp forum
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Wat about pulseaudio, u might install the wrong one ??

violet bear
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yay -Q | grep pulse lib32-libpulse 16.1-1 libpulse 16.1-3 pulseaudio 16.1-3 pulsemixer 1.5.1-3

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i mean the sound works

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with it so doubt

sharp forum
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Hav u rebooted or sth ur machine

violet bear
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yes

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10ths of times

sharp forum
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How do u start pipewire?

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Try going on pulsemixer

violet bear
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its not running rn tho and i got the issue too

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but kill pulse and run it

sharp forum
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….

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See if pulsemixer think there is daemon or not

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And see if it’s mute or not

violet bear
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not mute

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and also not an issue with controllers or output type

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a few weeks ago i could fix it by changing the volume drastically sometimes

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now it doesnt work at all (this fix i mean)

violet bear
sharp forum
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What did u test on(sound)

violet bear
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?

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like if sound work?

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youtube, discord, mpd some other stuff

sharp forum
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😦

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Try cava(terminal command)

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Even ik it’s kinda for ricing, but does it move somehow?

violet bear
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cava works

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and ncmpcpp visualizer also works

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both when there is sound and where there isnt

sharp forum
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Bro then it’s clearly ur hardware problem

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Does the speaker/headphone/whatever work on other devices?

violet bear
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why would it get fixed by starting/kill pipewire then

violet bear
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also a funny

sharp forum
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Bruh

violet bear
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i use VMs to play games with anti cheat, and sound works perfectly when i do

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never had an issue in 300+ hours

sharp forum
sharp forum
violet bear
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from what i remember, i had a missing package that might have caused pipeiwre to break after streaming sound

sharp forum
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Wat did u do to”solve”it at that time

violet bear
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nothing, the issue is random

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a few people said its the fix and i closed the thread with works "if it didnt fix ill reopen it"

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that was yesterday and im back

sharp forum
violet bear
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package was xdg-smth

violet bear
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should have said that earlier too ig

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its actually more rare on pipewire

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the reason for both is pulseaudio doesnt work with some VM stuff for some reason and pulseaudio is the only thing compatible with a VR app i use

sharp forum
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Try reinstalling them

crude talon
violet bear
sharp forum
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Rm configs

violet bear
violet bear
crude talon
violet bear
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single passthrough multiple gpus

crude talon
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and it happens like after you turn off your vm?

violet bear
crude talon
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you use a audio server for it too or did you passthrough i guess like a sound card

violet bear
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dont remember but i think i was injecting VM sound into output, i usually use mpd while in VM

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ill check

sharp forum
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Try using a usb(already setter up on it and see if u can play sound on it)

violet bear
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wdym

sharp forum
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Use iso such as archcraft, arcolinux

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  1. Do u hav a usb?
violet bear
crude talon
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he is trying to say use a live usb to test sound if it works fine in a live enviroment which it most likely will atleast from what i understand

violet bear
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yeah i got it thx

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i think it will work too, thats the problem cuz the sound issues are random

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sometimes i dont have them for days and sometimes its once every 2 mins

sharp forum
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u might want to copy packages/config from the iso then

violet bear
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would it not be easier to just grab the default ones?

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getting archcraft now, slow internet so might take a bit

crude talon
violet bear
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oh yeah

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sry forgot

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gimme a sek

violet bear
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pretty much exact config

crude talon
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yup then its a server

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really my best guess is arch is getting confused with which audio service to use and just tries using both?

violet bear
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that would be weird since i only have one running at a time

crude talon
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yeah

violet bear
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i could try to just remove one of them and then install pipewire/pulseaudio as i need to use them

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seems kinda jank tho and doubt it would fix

crude talon
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i mean why not just use 1 audio service unless you are quite literally forced by using both of them because of apps being picky

violet bear
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thats whats happening

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Simula forcing me to use pulseaudio and everything else works better with pipewire/works at all

crude talon
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  • you are using pulse audio for kvm
violet bear
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and that

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pipewire didnt work every second boot (in VM)

crude talon
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you use jack or usb? for your headphones

violet bear
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jack

crude talon
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you ever tried just passing through the audio controller? it should work for jack

violet bear
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that might work for vms but still doesnt solve simula

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it just crashes if i try starting with pipewire

crude talon
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true but maybe its possible (im not sure though) to just make pulseaudio be available to use on 1 app

violet bear
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doubt, its a VR WM that runs on top of normal WM

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so i assume it uses pulseaudio internally and i would need to make major patches for it to work

crude talon
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where can you download simula i cant find it for some reaosn

violet bear
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its pretty cool but i have a lot of issues with it rn anyways cuz SteamVR sucks

crude talon
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yeah looks cool but very jank

violet bear
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stupid jank

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runs in SteamVR on openXR on a WM on linux (which isnt supported by SteamVR)

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and im streaming to the headset as well lol

crude talon
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yeah

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so like uhh you havent tried considering any alternatives?

violet bear
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have and ill switch if im basically forced to but id rather not

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there arent any VR WMs really except for this one

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that have at least half of the functionality

crude talon
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Immersed maybe? honestly there is nothing like that that i can think of

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also im pretty sure they still dont have support on linux for that so yeah

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(immersed that is)

violet bear
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honestly making a new one rather than digging around in that huge codebase might be easier

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just use a desktop streaming solution, make fake screen for each app, add shortcuts
shouldnt take more than a month to get basic functionality down

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wouldnt need steamvr either

crude talon
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true

violet bear
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well ig ill try going with one of them at a time and see if i fixes itself

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ill leave this open in case someone has any ideas

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thx for the help

crude talon
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yeah its quite out my level of knowledge

violet bear
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thank you