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ae

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thank

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np

i broke my arch (again)

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same thing happened as last time, force shutdowned then systemd-udevd and networkmanager became tainted (according to journalctl)

tried the same steps as last time but didnt work this time

booted into liveiso

fscked

chrooted

reinstalled linux

reinstalled base

reinstalled linux-firmware

reinstalled networkmanager

reinstalled systemd

rebooted

tada! didnt work

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well, you said it get stucks at loading initramfs right?

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i can get past it on main kernel using booster initramfs

i can even get into xmonad

but most stuff dont work

like sudo

or discord

or chromium for that matter

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anything in journalctl when you launch them?

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its all related to networkmanager/systemd-udevd and nvidia

which is why i tried removing it

still appears though

[old ether]

try replacing udevd with eudev

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oh also i downgraded my kernel to 6.1.7 just in case

wasnt the issue

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hm.

well all the stuff happening seems to have little to no correlation

perhaps try benchmarking hard disk to see if its the fs being slow

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i doubt it honestly

there are other side effects like getting a lot more kernel messages than usual on tty boot

it even goes above the password input field lmao

going back on liveiso

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what does dmesg show

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good question

lemme check after i try eudev

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actually dont

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lol ok

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found out eudev got deprecated

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im gonna reinstall 6.1.8 anyway

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and i dont know what is the alternative

/dev is populated right?

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as in with nvme*?

yes

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are there others too?

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theres a windows section

p1 is efi

p2 to p4 is windows

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is there a dri section or anything?

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p5 is linux root

p7 is linux home

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ok so, from what i get, systemd-udevd is failing

this is how /dev usually looks

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which is why i reinstalled systemd multiple times

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udev populates it with device drivers

but it doesnt seem drivers like dri are being put there

so this a systemd-udevd problem

is there atleast a drm folder?

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nah i have em

this is on chroot though

[old ether]

oh ok thats nice then

why the fuck do you have 50 ttys

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lmao idk

do i reboot now and pray that reinstalling linux for the 7th time fixes it

and also to check dmesg

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try another kernel?

like zen

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zen stalls on ramdisk

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hm

1. stop doing force shutdowns

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sheesh

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cant, sometimes it just wont shut down for like 50 minutes

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welp, nouveau is failing ig

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force systemd to shutdown faster

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its not even modprobed

modprobed it now

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then why is dmesg showing it if it wasnt modprobed

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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switch to NixOS /j

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im very close to /uj

[old ether]

thats auditd

did you enable auditd

whats the full dmesg output

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thats supposedly it

i just grepped out the ones containing nouveau

and no auditd is disabled

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if auditd is disabled... why is it being outputted

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btw i do not have network here

gotta go to liveiso for anything

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curious it is

so tldr; stuff works but at 10 fps

right?

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not really fps

it works smoothly

but some stuff refuses to work

like sudo

reboot

chromium

electron

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reinstall them?

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...

[honest mulch]

Too few arguments for command note!
Usage: .note <name>

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i have no internet

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liveiso

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im getting nouveau errors again yayyy

its modprobed wtf

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nvidia failing?

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i suppose

why does my system always fail 1 or 2 days before a school submission

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i am out of ideas

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same

if i switch to nix im gonna have to keep my /home somehow

god this is complicated no matter the direction

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here is an idea

mount it, and then tar the entire home directory, go out, do the partitioning and untar it

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reinstalling all my packages

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i am unpleased to announce that it did not work

ok i think it has to do with my wifi driver

but i already reinstalled everything

so i have no clue how to fix that

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try disabling nouveau?

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that things fixed now

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whats not?

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the page faults and stuff

basically udevd and networkmanager but probably rtw89

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how can networkmanager mess those things up?

imo the most it can do is not make network work...

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

rtw89 is the common thing in the trace

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=283074

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maybe that is also not working and sending loads of dmesgs but idts thats the cause of your mess up

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might be it

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is everything other than wifi working?

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i googled the frickin memory address

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nope sudo, reboot, and electron notably do not

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try unloading the wifi driver ?

rmmod rtw89_pci?

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yeah that fixed it

thats so

fucking stupid

everything works now

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except wifi?

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i pacman -R'ed it

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no absolutely everything

rtw89 was apparently included into kernel

which is why it broke

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yeah

I had the exact same problem but about a year ago

I use rtw89_pci too and my new laptop did not have it so I compiled and installed one from github

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how the fuck does a network driver break electron lol

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and after the next update linux rolled it out officially and those two conflicted

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electron is useless bloat and depends on 1000 things and maybe because of shitty error handling of some network widget it stops everything working

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sudo???

sudo broke too

reboot??????

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use doas 😎

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yeah

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Although this might not be your case

I tried using an electron app for sound management and could never get it to work

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doas was my saving grace ngl

i literally could not have debugged without doas

because then i couldnt see journalctl

actually i never tested su

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su was there too!

jinx

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there are probably a ton of other ways to get root too :p

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maybe some service which depended on rtw did not allow you to reboot
did you try rebooting from root?

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yes

doas reboot didnt work

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su is the most basic and default one I think

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@old ether you can mark as solved now btw

dumbest issue ever

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what fixed it

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(this isnt my thread because i cant make threads on my phone)

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removing my wifi driver

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[Solved]

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which got included in 5.1.7

which i only found out because i searched up the memory address

😎

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that fixed sudo?

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that fixed everything

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smort

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a wifi card broke the entire system, now thats a story to tell your kids

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so true

i blamed the kernel

then nvidia

then the wifi driver

but it was actually the kernel

for including my wifi driver

[old ether]

i broke freeBSD today eeeeeeeee

cant boot, fucked kernel

also bred, next time you force shutdown, take your disk to the FSF (File System Foundation)