I want to move to DWM from xfce4

[honest grail]

You just need to make it as executable sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/my_bar

[final flax]

only that ? then shift alt q ?

[honest grail]

oh systemd is weird yeah
Add --force to override it (it was set by lightdm before you uninstalled it and was never unset)

[honest grail]

What is alt shift q?

[lone bronze]

Can you type that as the command I need to use

[honest grail]

sudo systemctl enable --now --force sddm

[final flax]

so i can get the screen that i can type in startx

[honest grail]

ah to close dwm sure

[lone bronze]

OMG YOU HAVE TO FUCKIN KIDDING ME

Wait nvm I can still ttu

Tty**

But still tf

[honest grail]

welp
Read the logs again

[final flax]

@honest grail can she try the command i sent ? to startx

[honest grail]

see sudo systemctl status sddm as well

[final flax]

.

[honest grail]

Yeah actually
Startx is good for testing it since it just fails if something goes wrong and gives you the logs right in the terminal

[honest grail]

startkde isn't a command
Its exec startplasma-x11

[final flax]

btw uhm it did not work

[honest grail]

what error do you get

[final flax]

ah alr

[final flax]

no errors but i clicked on shift alt q to kill it then startx and its still the same

nothing has changed

[honest grail]

What did you expect to happen

[final flax]

my bar should be changed

[honest grail]

Looking online this is because your GPU is initialized after sddm is started
You can fix this later by following this: https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/jtb1zb/sddm_failed_to_read_display_number_from_pipe/, for now try and see if startx works

[honest grail]

What is it right now? Just nothing? Or?

[lone bronze]

So what startx command should I type

[final flax]

says dwm-6.4 ...with the bar it should change it and add ram usage and temp etc

echo "exec startplasma-x11" > ~/.xinitrc

@lone bronze

[honest grail]

Install xorg-xinit
Then do echo "exec startplasma-x11 > ~/.xinitrc
Then just run startx

[honest grail]

What happens when you run my_bar in the terminal rn

And can you show the xinitrc @final flax

[final flax]

sec

#!/bin/sh
my_bar &
xinput disable "AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint TouchPad"
xinput disable "AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint Stick"
exec dwm

[final flax]

yea

wait

is that 2 dots ?

..xinitrc ?

should be 1

[lone bronze]

I accidentally put a comma lol

[honest grail]

What about this
What happens when you launch it from the terminal? Does it work

[lone bronze]

Now what?

[honest grail]

You can also close dwm and look at the stuff startx outputs and see if it has any errors from my_bar

[honest grail]

You missed a quote
Exit out of this with ctrl+d and retype it

[final flax]

dwm isnt letting me open a terminal with the gui filemanager

[honest grail]

(it's asking you to finish the quote you missed rn)

[honest grail]

Why would you open the terminal like that and not just have a keybinding for it

[lone bronze]

Where do I put the end of the quote?

[honest grail]

"exec startplasma-x11" should be one quote

[lone bronze]

Oki

[final flax]

do u know the default 1 ?

[honest grail]

echo "exec startplasma-x11" > ~/.xinitrc

[honest grail]

st (suckless terminal)
You can easily change it

Just edit the termcmd variable

[final flax]

already changed to alaacrity

[honest grail]

So just use the keybinding for it then

If it doesn't do anything make sure alacritty is installed and you spelled it right

[lone bronze]

You decipher that while I step away from the desktop for a moment

[honest grail]

Its because you're running this as the root user so it's using the system wide xinitrc from /etc/X11/xinit
Log in as a regular user and run it
(After running the echo "exec ........ command again)

[final flax]

yea spelling is right in the config and its installed

[honest grail]

so what does pressing the keybinding do

[final flax]

uhm well i dont even know its shorcut on keyboard lol

[honest grail]

just read it then, its all in your config

[lone bronze]

Ohh ok

I thought you said as root user but ig not

Um tf

[honest grail]

why would you run that as sudo

or wait one sec

do stat .xinitrc

oh, right
yeah its owned by root because you edited it as root earlier

[lone bronze]

Fuck

[honest grail]

just do sudo chown $USER:$USER .xinitrc

[next steppe]

Jodi

[honest grail]

to change the ownership back to your user

[lone bronze]

So root:juno-c?

[honest grail]

(the reason sudo echo .... doesnt work is that sudo applies to echo only, > .xinitrc will still be run as the regular user and try to write it asthat

[honest grail]

you want it to be owned byjuno-c:juno-c

[lone bronze]

Well I’m the regular user

[honest grail]

root:juno-c would mean its owned by root and the group juno-c
whihc usually would mena your user only has read access and nothing else

[lone bronze]

Ohh oki

I misunderstood at first

[honest grail]

yeah thats the problem, you edited it as root so its owned by root, thats why we need to give ownership of the file back to you

[lone bronze]

Like so?

[honest grail]

dont keep the dollar sign

$USER is an environment variable that (in this case) is equivalent to juno-c so thats why I wrote it lik ethat

[lone bronze]

Ohhhh

[honest grail]

ugh

[lone bronze]

What?

No screens found

[honest grail]

can you do lspci -k | grep -i5 VGA

might need to install pciutils

[honest grail]

youre using the nouvea driver, thats the issue
it says nvidia is installed but you dont seem to be using it

[lone bronze]

Wait wtf I don’t remember installing that bitch

How do I yeet it?

[honest grail]

its installed with the kernel

do sudo pacman -S nvidia nvidia-utils

then reboot

the nvidia package blacklists nouvea apparently

[lone bronze]

So now I reinstall?

[honest grail]

yeah

[final flax]

lol

[lone bronze]

ISWTG I’M GONNA STRANGLE WHATEVER IS DOIN THIS

[honest grail]

right because you enabled sddm lol

just go to a tty ig

[final flax]

ig u might need to try popOS ? or ur comfortable with arch ? just saying popOS cause its the most stable 1 with nvidia

go to tty and type starx

[lone bronze]

Yo I’m more comfy with arch bc of how flexible it is

[final flax]

ye ik but like arch isnt just good for nvidia gpus..but its ur choice at the end

[lone bronze]

What does pop have that arch doesnt

Or other way around depending

[final flax]

search about it and u will understand

[honest grail]

nothing, arch just doesnt come set up by default

distros are pretty much all the same, other than very few specifc things, you can do on arch everything you can do on any other distro yourself

[final flax]

uhm dont think its gonna be as popos ? or am i wrong

[honest grail]

there is nothing different about popos, it uses the same drivers, the same packages, the same everything
its just all pre set up for you

[lone bronze]

Can I still get the plasma de for pop?

[final flax]

yea

[lone bronze]

Istg I’m a fuckin idiot rofl

[honest grail]

do you want to try getting arch to work first, I think we're relatively close

cautiously optimistic ofc

[lone bronze]

I wanna try getting arch to work first pop os will be the final bastion

[honest grail]

alright

[final flax]

ye ig continue first and u might be comfortable after all that changes

[honest grail]

switch to a tty if you can, id disable sddm now so it doesnt annoy you every time you reboot before its fixed

[lone bronze]

So systemctl disable —now sddm

[honest grail]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pop_os/comments/pt4som/what_does_pop_os_do_differently_to_make_nvidia_so/
looked it up, apparently popos's dev componay (system76) also sells computers so they have close ties with nvidia, its still the same stuff but they talk to nvidia and get a lot of hardware for testing

[honest grail]

dont think --now does anything in this case but yeah

[final flax]

try startx now maybe ?

[honest grail]

^

[honest grail]

(the red authentication stuff is normal if you were wondering)

[honest grail]

can you rerun lspci -k | grep -i5 VGA again just to make sure its using nvidia now

also I looked it up and apparently sometimes you do actually need to just list the monitors, so maybe you should use nvidia-xconfig but it seemed to output garbage so idk

[final flax]

by just arrow key up (just if u didint know) @lone bronze

[lone bronze]

…

[honest grail]

still using nouvea, but I think thats okay
it might just be using it for the vga text mode emulation while youre in the tty

[lone bronze]

Fair

So I do nano for which again

[honest grail]

you dont have an igpu right

[lone bronze]

I do but I dont use it

[honest grail]

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/NVIDIA/Troubleshooting#X_fails_with_"no_screens_found"_when_using_Multiple_GPUs

your PCI id seems to be the same

[lone bronze]

So?

[honest grail]

just do what it says

make a /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-nvidia.conf file and and write that

[lone bronze]

By doing nano?

[honest grail]

yeah

just sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-nvidia.conf

[final flax]

why sudo ? XD

[lone bronze]

That look right?

[honest grail]

because its a global directory
you need sudo to edit any file outside of your home folder

[final flax]

ah

[honest grail]

looks fine

[lone bronze]

Ctrl s then x?

[final flax]

no need

just ctrl x

[honest grail]

i dont think ctrl+s even is an option

[final flax]

it is

[lone bronze]

To save?

[final flax]

auto saves

without asking u

[honest grail]

isnt ctrl+o save

[final flax]

ye but ctrl o asks u..like making sure

[honest grail]

either way, ctrl+x also asks you if you want to save the file so you can use that

[final flax]

ctrl s not telling u to make sure

[honest grail]

i see

[lone bronze]

So now what?

[honest grail]

try startx again

[lone bronze]

At least we’re getting somewhere lol

Want me to check the logs?

[final flax]

thats really annoying that it doesnt wanna start normal..even tho everything looks fine

[lone bronze]

Ikr

And this has been what forced me to reinstall

[honest grail]

yeah the logs are ~/.local/share/xorg now since youre a regular user btw

[lone bronze]

I did cat btw on the log file it was referring to

[honest grail]

this is Xorg.0.log right

[lone bronze]

Mhm

[honest grail]

see sudo dmesg | grep -i3 nvidia

[lone bronze]

Conflicting nvidia drivers caused by nouveau maybe?

[honest grail]

yeah looks like it

really odd its not automatically blacklisted

[lone bronze]

Hmmm weird

[honest grail]

try sudo blacklist nouveau

[lone bronze]

Eh blacklist aint a command?

[honest grail]

AH

im an idiot

yeah you have to regenerate the initramfs

[lone bronze]

Lmfao

How do I do that

[honest grail]

first, can you show me the /etc/mkinitcpio.conf file (if it exists)

[final flax]

cat /etc/mkinitcpio.conf

[honest grail]

^

[lone bronze]

WE’RE FINALLY GETTING SOMEWHERE

So how do I get mkinitcio.conf?

[honest grail]

run mkinitcpio -p linux

[final flax]

.

[honest grail]

as root

[final flax]

i forgot the p my bad

[honest grail]

if it doent exist theres nothing to do

[final flax]

just type it again

[honest grail]

oh lol

[lone bronze]

Like how?

[final flax]

i edited it

[final flax]

.

[lone bronze]

Ok yeah still doesnt exist

[final flax]

with the p ?

u sure ?

[lone bronze]

Omfg lmfao

My dumbass dyslexia

[final flax]

cpio

[final flax]

not pcio

[lone bronze]

Haza

[honest grail]

where it says HOOKS, remove the word kms from there

[lone bronze]

With nano?

[honest grail]

yeah

edit it with sudo

[lone bronze]

Show me which line you see kms?

Oop found it

Like so?

[honest grail]

yep

now save it

then run sudo mkinitcpio -p linux

then run sudo grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg to regenerate the grub config, then reboot

(make sure your efi partition is mounted to /boot first)

[lone bronze]

I can check that with lsblk ye?

[honest grail]

yeah or just ls /boot and see if it has an EFI and GRUB folder

[lone bronze]

I’ll take that as a yes?

[honest grail]

looks good

[final flax]

she should reboot and startx now right ?

[honest grail]

yeah

[lone bronze]

Fingers crossed y’all

[honest grail]

btw for later reference, basically everything we've done is from here
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/NVIDIA
the archwiki is a super amazing tool every arch user should use

[lone bronze]

FUCK YEAH

[final flax]

rkive doesnt like to read the wiki at all XD

finally

[lone bronze]

Now my mouse doesnt work

[final flax]

pffft lol

[lone bronze]

Hey I get sorta overwhelmed but now I’m getting a lil bit better with it

How tf do I fix my mouse now rofl

[honest grail]

it doesnt work in what way?

is it working badly or is it just straight up not showing up/moving

[lone bronze]

I cant move my cursor

[final flax]

well alright hope u gonna be way better at arch

[honest grail]

plasma is weird and doesnt always work well when launched via startx, at this point id recommend just trying to see if it works fine if you log in through sddm

if it doesnt fix it, theres more we can try

[lone bronze]

I mean couldn’t you tell I was getting quicker with it during this bs

So do I go to a sep tty

[honest grail]

yeah

[lone bronze]

And re enable sddm?

[honest grail]

and then sudo systemctl enable --now sddm

it should replace the current plasma session when you launch it in sddm

so you dont need to worry about closing it

even if it doesnt, linux allows you to have infinite desktop environments open at once so its still not an issue
if you cant move the mouse its kind hard to close kde so its better to just not worry about it lol

[lone bronze]

YEAHH

LETS GOO

[honest grail]

works?

[lone bronze]

Yup

[honest grail]

nice

[lone bronze]

Fuck you pop os you little prick

My mouse still doesnt work

[honest grail]

okay which mouse do you have

[lone bronze]

Razer basilisk v2 if I remember correctly

[honest grail]

some (especially gamer-focused) companies have thier own custom mouse drivers which is really fun and definitely not annoying at all

yup razer is one of those

[lone bronze]

Yeah I figured as such

[honest grail]

you have to install openrazer

[lone bronze]

I’m thinking bout gettin new keyboard and mouse for my new os

[honest grail]

its on the aur

if you dont have an aur helper its fine, I can help you install htat too
its pretty important for arch since the main repos are small, the aur basically adds a good 60k user created packages you can download

[lone bronze]

Yay correct?

[honest grail]

theres a few, yay is what I use
its just simple and works

[lone bronze]

Also why cant I switch ttys?

[honest grail]

do you know how to get it?

[lone bronze]

Mhm I already have it

[honest grail]

you should be able to
unless kde made your entire screen freeze? I have no idea

[lone bronze]

Definitely not frozen I can do alt fn shortcuts jus fine

[honest grail]

remember youre in a different tty rn,make sure youre switching to the one youre not already in

and try pressing it multiple times, its a bit inconsistent sometimes

[lone bronze]

I’ve tried f1 and f3

I can still use my arrow keys to traverse the de so I can install open razer from console

Is it -S or -Syu?

[honest grail]

yay -S openrazer
(yay doesnt need to be and should not be run with sudo)

[honest grail]

apparently its called openrazer-meta

[lone bronze]

Weird

Y or n

[honest grail]

also add yourself to the plugdev group

[honest grail]

your choice
if you say to remove them after its done building, youd need to reinstall the deps every time theyre used again
personally I just dont remove them so I dont have to waste time reinstalling it

(btw when I say I use something, I mean I used it when I used arch, I dont use arch anymore)

[lone bronze]

What do you use now?

[final flax]

gento user now

[honest grail]

yeah

[honest grail]

(sudo usermod -a -G plugdev juno-c)

generally theres a few youd want to add yourself to

[lone bronze]

Would I type that in?

[lone bronze]

How’s gento compared to arch?

[honest grail]

one of the first things I run on every install is
sudo usermod -a -G plugdev,netdev,wheel,input,audio,video jodi (obviously replace jodi with your username lol)

[final flax]

HARD

[lone bronze]

Lel

[honest grail]

thats an alternative, ive always used usermod instead but its the same
also install linux-headers, idk if the package installed that for you or not

[lone bronze]

I actually remember installing that

[honest grail]

theyre pretty different
gentoo allows you to customize everything about your system way more than arch, its a true DIY distro
you compile every single package (other than a few optionally) and can control which features theyre compiled with and everything like that
leads to preformance benefits and further customizations

[honest grail]

youre good then

after adding yourself to the plugdev group
(id also recommend adding input, video, netdev, and audio too)
then you just reboot and itll automatically work

[final flax]

but dont deny that its hard to use

[honest grail]

yeah i wouldnt really recommend it to most people

[lone bronze]

Also it said netdev doesn’t exist?

What is netdev for?

[honest grail]

sudo groupadd netdev, but if it doesnt exist it probably doesnt matter anyway

[honest grail]

used by some networking tools for authentication, you need it to run iwctl as a regular user for example (no clue about network manager)

[lone bronze]

Lol so its oki for me to reboot?

[honest grail]

Yeah

[final flax]

uhm mouse working ?

[honest grail]

Might not have to even reboot, I think just restarting the xserver works but idk how you'd do that without a mouse

[lone bronze]

Bouta find out

[honest grail]

Unless you want a 3rd kde session

[final flax]

alt p for dwm XD

[lone bronze]

Ok bruh my mouse still doesnt work

Lmfao all I had to do was unplug and replug it in X333

[final flax]

tf

u bein serios ?

[honest grail]

That just makes the driver load, that's normal lol

[lone bronze]

Still hilarious

Now I'm back in desktop disc

[honest grail]

You can check if it's using openrazer with lsusb -t if you want, if the driver is called like "basic mouse" then it was just needing to unplug and plug in

[lone bronze]

welp whatever the case its all good now

[honest grail]

Yeah yeah

[final flax]

do u have intel u-code installed ?
@lone bronze

if not then install it

[lone bronze]

Why?

[final flax]

can u take a quick look at the wiki for that ?

[lone bronze]

Suree

lmaoi

So all I have to do is pacman this one or should I yay?

[final flax]

sudo pacman -S intel-ucode

[lone bronze]

Guessing that one is the safer bet?

And what should I use yay for?

[final flax]

didint try yay for it tbh...but only use yay for the aur packages ig

[lone bronze]

Makes sense

[final flax]

also update arch every 3-4 days with command
yay

not everyday like everyone is doing lol..cause it might break ur system

[lone bronze]

How would I update arch by only using yay?

[final flax]

yay runs pacman -Syu

so its just easier to type yay

[honest grail]

for basically anything
Yay can do anything pacman can do + more
The only issue is that if you search for a package it'll take 15 years since it has to look through tens of thousands of AUR packages

[lone bronze]

So is this still balid jodi?

[honest grail]

You can also just do yay -Syu like you normally would

[lone bronze]

valid**

[honest grail]

Not sure, I think generally updating every few days is fine

[final flax]

yea cause its a rolling release

[honest grail]

I don't know if it's better than updating every day though, I feel like as long as you update once or twice a week at least you're fine

[lone bronze]

Ig I'm confused

So yay breaks shit if you only type yay yes?

More frequently I mean

[final flax]

lol yup..thats the same feeling

[final flax]

typing yay only = pacman -Syu

so its just easier to type yay

[honest grail]

Its the same as a full system upgrade with pacman

It won't break anything

Well not commonly at least, arch can just sometimes break after a full upgrade but it's usually easy to fix and rare

[final flax]

yes but this 1 to install packages

not update

[lone bronze]

so yay -S differentiates than jus typing yay?

I'm sorry for me being stupid lel

[honest grail]

yay -S == pacman -S
(But with AUR packages as well as official packages)

[final flax]

yay -S is to install a program like for example mpv

yay -S mpv

thats will install mpv for u

[honest grail]

Yay == pacman -Syu
(But with AUR packages being updates as well as official packages)

[final flax]

yay only = pacman -Syu

[final flax]

ow lol

[lone bronze]

Ahhh oki thank you thats where I was tripping myself up

[final flax]

after installing intel-ucode regenerate grub b4 restarting

[lone bronze]

Thank y'all for putting up with me x333

[lone bronze]

Can you reply to the command again?

[final flax]

sudo grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg

[lone bronze]

Thank you

How can I check that?

[olive tide]

why are you in this thread now lol

[final flax]

cause jodi was helping her

[honest grail]

it already was mounted last time, don't need to check again

[lone bronze]

Alrighty lol

Jus me bein paranoid

[olive tide]

but you aren't supposed to use other people's threads

[honest grail]

you can do cat /etc/fstab though and just see if it declares a vfat drive that gets mounted to /boot

[lone bronze]

Idk why fes didnt ask jodi to enter my thread lol

[final flax]

well its mine actully

[lone bronze]

That would made this a lot more organized

[final flax]

anyway imma sleep now gn yall

[lone bronze]

Gn fes

Jodi if ya want you can join my thread cause thats where a lotta other ppl help me with my stupidity x333

[honest grail]

Alright

[final flax]

@honest grail does pamixer have limits in volume up ?

cause like it doesnt stop going higher when i try to see what is the max volume for it

[honest grail]

it goes up to 100%
If you dont want a limit, add the --allow-boost flag to the command

its limited by default for safety reasons

without a limit you can go to infinite

like literally infinite

[final flax]

not really..its not limited at all...it can go like explode my ears and can still go higher

[final flax]

well..it is like that for me now

how do i set the limit to 150% only ?

[honest grail]

not sure you can without a small shell script
you can do like if $(pamixer --get-volume) > 150; do pamixer --set-volume 150; fi to make sure it cant go above 150

(this is psuedo code, this wont actually work written exactly like this, its just a concept)

[final flax]

can u make it in C ?

[honest grail]

this is probably not ideal, pamixer --get-volume takes like almost a second to do anything so that would make it way slower than just setting the volume without it

takes from 200 miliseconds to like 500 sometimes
which is pretty long compared to not doing that which is instant

if you still want to do that though, youd probably want to use SHCMD again and just make the script in there

if [ $(pamixer --get-volume) -lt "150" ]; then pamixer --increase 5; fi
try this

static const char[] volumecmd = "if [ $(pamixer --get-volume) -lt "150" ]; then pamixer --allow-boost--increase 5; fi";

and then later
instead of doing {.v = volumecmd}, do just SHCMD(volumecmd) just like you did for the screenshot command

[final flax]

got u

thx btw

[honest grail]

this technically isnt perfect, it stops you from increasing your volume if the volume is equal to or greater than 150 so if youre on like volume 149 you can get up to 154 but that doesnt really matter and if youre only ever going up with increments of 5 anyway it shouldnt ever happen

and keep in mind you might notice a delay now because of pamixer --get-volume

[final flax]

imma give it a try..will go back to what it was if i felt uncomfortable

[honest grail]

forgot to add --allow-boost, fixed that now

[final flax]

Jan 09 13:37:39 arch kernel: x86/cpu: VMX (outside TXT) disabled by BIOS
Jan 09 13:37:39 arch kernel: ACPI BIOS Error (bug): Could not resolve symbol [_PR.CPU0._PPC], AE_NOT_FOUND (20220331/psargs-3>
Jan 09 13:37:39 arch kernel: ACPI Error: Aborting method _PR.PPCE due to previous error (AE_NOT_FOUND) (20220331/psparse-529)
Jan 09 13:37:39 arch kernel: ACPI Error: Aborting method \EV4 due to previous error (AE_NOT_FOUND) (20220331/psparse-529)
Jan 09 13:37:39 arch kernel: ACPI Error: Aborting method \SMIE due to previous error (AE_NOT_FOUND) (20220331/psparse-529)
Jan 09 13:37:39 arch kernel: ACPI Error: Aborting method \NEVT due to previous error (AE_NOT_FOUND) (20220331/psparse-529)
Jan 09 13:37:39 arch kernel: ACPI Error: Aborting method _SB.PCI0.LPCB.ECDV._Q66 due to previous error (AE_NOT_FOUND) (202203>
Jan 09 13:37:39 arch kernel: EXT4-fs: Cannot change data mode on remount
Jan 09 13:37:40 arch systemd-remount-fs[236]: /usr/bin/mount for / exited with exit status 32.
Jan 09 13:37:40 arch systemd[1]: Failed to start Remount Root and Kernel File Systems.
░░ Subject: A start job for unit systemd-remount-fs.service has failed
░░ Defined-By: systemd
░░ Support: https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
░░
░░ A start job for unit systemd-remount-fs.service has finished with a failure.
░░
░░ The job identifier is 32 and the job result is failed.

Jan 09 13:37:52 arch kernel: Support for cores revisions 0x17 and 0x18 disabled by module param allhwsupport=0. Try b43.allhws>
Jan 09 13:37:53 arch dhcpcd[379]: dhcpcd_prestartinterface: Operation not possible due to RF-kill
Jan 09 13:37:57 arch dhcpcd[405]: ps_bpf_recvmsg: Invalid argument
Jan 09 13:37:59 arch dhcpcd[405]: ps_bpf_recvmsg: Invalid argument
Jan 09 13:38:00 arch dhcpcd[405]: ps_bpf_recvmsg: Invalid argument
Jan 09 13:38:02 arch dhcpcd[405]: ps_bpf_recvmsg: Invalid argument
Jan 09 13:38:04 arch dhcpcd[405]: ps_bpf_recvmsg: Invalid argument
Jan 09 13:38:31 arch sudo[482]: pam_unix(sudo:auth): conversation failed
Jan 09 13:38:31 arch sudo[482]: pam_unix(sudo:auth): auth could not identify password for [alu]
Jan 09 13:38:42 arch sudo[498]: pam_unix(sudo:auth): conversation failed
Jan 09 13:38:42 arch sudo[498]: pam_unix(sudo:auth): auth could not identify password for [alu]
Jan 09 13:38:50 arch sudo[514]: pam_unix(sudo:auth): conversation failed
Jan 09 13:38:50 arch sudo[514]: pam_unix(sudo:auth): auth could not identify password for [alu]
Jan 09 13:40:53 arch dhcpcd[973]: ps_bpf_recvmsg: Invalid argument
Jan 09 13:40:54 arch kernel: usb 2-1.1: device descriptor read/64, error -32
Jan 09 13:40:54 arch kernel: usb 2-1.1: device descriptor read/64, error -32
Jan 09 13:40:54 arch kernel: usb 2-1.1: device descriptor read/64, error -32
Jan 09 13:41:01 arch dhcpcd[1016]: ps_bpf_recvmsg: Invalid argument
Jan 09 13:41:02 arch dhcpcd[1016]: ps_bpf_recvmsg: Invalid argument
Jan 09 13:41:04 arch dhcpcd[1016]: ps_bpf_recvmsg: Invalid argument
Jan 09 13:41:06 arch dhcpcd[1016]: ps_bpf_recvmsg: Invalid argument
Jan 09 13:41:08 arch dhcpcd[1016]: ps_bpf_recvmsg: Invalid argument
Jan 09 14:08:41 arch kernel: usb 2-1.1: device not accepting address 16, error -71
Jan 09 14:08:41 arch dhcpcd[379]: ps_root_dispatch: No such file or directory
Jan 09 14:08:41 arch dhcpcd[379]: ps_root_dispatch: No such file or directory

Jan 09 14:08:41 arch dhcpcd[379]: ps_root_dispatch: No such process
Jan 09 14:08:45 arch dhcpcd[2158]: ps_bpf_recvmsg: Invalid argument

are these errors critical ?

[final flax]

@honest grail

[honest grail]

Doesn't sound good

Is your system still like usable?

[final flax]

ye lol i use it right now

[final flax]

so i have to search for a fix ?

[honest grail]

I guess it's not critical then? I'd definitely keep it mind though since they don't seem good
Yeah I'd say just google the errors

[final flax]

@honest grail can u help me uninstall all pulseaudio components and install pipewire ? just wanna give it last try cause someone said he got laptop from 2001 and mic was working on it with pipewire..+ im telling u to help me uninstall it cause last time i tried uninstalling it by myself, linux didint want to boot up at all

[honest grail]

The pipewire page tells you how to replace pulseaudio with it

.aw pipewire

[autumn zodiac]

Arch Wiki: Pipewire

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pipewire

[honest grail]

I'm in class rn so can't help rn

[final flax]

alr

uhm so
sudo pacman -S pipewire-pulse
then reboot and
systemctl start pipewire-pulse.service
then uninstall pulseaudio components right ? just making sure tho

[final flax]

or
sudo pacman -S --noconfirm --needed pipewire
sudo pacman -S --noconfirm --needed pipewire-media-session
sudo pacman -S --noconfirm --needed pipewire-alsa
sudo pacman -S --noconfirm --needed pipewire-jack
sudo pacman -S --noconfirm --needed pipewire-zeroconf

sudo pacman -Rs --noconfirm pulseaudio-equalizer-ladspa
sudo pacman -Rs --noconfirm pulseaudio-alsa
sudo pacman -Rs --noconfirm gnome-bluetooth-blueberry
sudo pacman -Rs --noconfirm pulseaudio-bluetooth
sudo pacman -Rs --noconfirm pulseaudio

sudo pacman -S --noconfirm --needed pipewire-pulse
sudo pacman -S --noconfirm --needed blueberry
then reboot

[honest grail]

99% of this is optional, it just depends on what you're using
If you remove pulseaudio, it'll remove it's dependencies
It also doesn't matter if you remove it all since it just simply won't be used if you're not using pulseaudio

[final flax]

uhm which 1 of those commands should i use ? i use 2 sticks for mic and sound in my headphones...i mean not like the new hardware comes with only 1 contains mic and sound in the same stick

[honest grail]

Just uninstall pulseaudio and pulseaudio Bluetooth
Then install pipewire and pipewire-pulse

You don't need wire-plumber or anything, you can use whatever session manager you used for pulseaudio unless you need the special pipewire only features

[olive tide]

pipewire requires a session manager lol

[honest grail]

Really? I thought if you used pipewire-pulse it'd just work

I don't remember ever installing wire-plumber at least

[olive tide]

At least I think so, maybe pipewire doesn't directly require it

[final flax]

done but i still see what im on pulseaudio ?

[alu@arch ~]$ pactl info
Server String: /run/user/1000/pulse/native
Library Protocol Version: 35
Server Protocol Version: 35
Is Local: yes
Client Index: 91
Tile Size: 65472
User Name: alu
Host Name: arch
Server Name: PulseAudio (on PipeWire 0.3.63)
Server Version: 15.0.0
Default Sample Specification: float32le 2ch 48000Hz
Default Channel Map: front-left,front-right
Default Sink: alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo
Default Source: alsa_input.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo
Cookie: 8a36:2e4e

[honest grail]

well yeah
pipewire is just a sound server, its still using pulseaudio as a client
if you dont want to use the pulseaudio client remove pipewire-pulse, but then some apps wont work and bluetooth also wont work
the benefits of pipewire are as a sound server, it doesnt really replace pulseaudio

so youll still get less latency, better video recording, etc

[final flax]

well i dont really use bluetooth at all but uhm ive tested mic and it works perfectly fine right now..so i guess i aint uninstall pipewire-pulse

[honest grail]

yeah itll fix any of the compatibility issues youve had, thats why I was confused on why it worked on pulse but not on pipewire for you, its basically 1:1

[final flax]

@honest grail why when i alt + p and then type reboot and enter, it doesnt reboot my laptop ?

it was working fine...idk what happened tbh

[honest grail]

probably requires sudo

[final flax]

u mean from terminal ? its just faster to do alt p then reboot

[honest grail]

well reboot probably requires sudo which is why you cant just do reboot from dmenu

try systemctl reboot instead

it does require polkit being installed though

[final flax]

worked thanks

[honest grail]

If you want you can alias it in /etc/profile (or /etc/profile.d) like alias reboot="systemctl reboot" and then it should just work in dmenu if you do reboot

[final flax]

@honest grail is the formating here is fine ?

[honest grail]

Yeah
Normally youd want to line it up but since this line is so much longer, you can't really do that
And it's visual anyway, as long as you can read it, it's correct

Personally I just made a macro and used that to make it shorter

[final flax]

can i see urs ?

• also i wanna see ur whole latest config.h if u dont mind

[honest grail]

its all on GitHub, lemme resend the link

[final flax]

not updated tho

[honest grail]

https://github.com/DaQueenJodi/Jodi-Dots/tree/master/dwm

I actually reset it when I started reusing dwm so it might be slightly different

[honest grail]

It is, I sync it after every change (if I remember)

[final flax]

VOLKEY(LowerVolume),
VOLKEY(RaiseVolume),
VOLKEY(Mute),

[honest grail]

Yeah, VOLKEY is a macro I made

[final flax]

wait what..is it going to work like that

#define VOLKEY(ACTION) { 0, XF86XK_Audio##ACTION, spawn, {.v = ACTION##cmd} }

[honest grail]

#define VOLKEY(ACTION) { 0, XF86XK_Audio##ACTION, spawn, {.v = ACTION##cmd} }

VOLKEY(LowerVolume) == {0, XF86XK_AudioLowerVolume, spawn, {.v =LowerVolumecmd}}

So ofc you'd also need to change the names of the volume commands to match that

I could've just made an array for it but meh, it doesn't matter that much and it'd require it to use 24 bytes of memory for no reason

I'd recommend just like not worrying about this, it doesn't really matter
I just thought it'd make it look slightly nicer

It does exactly the same as yours just more concisely

[final flax]

ah i see, alr thx btw

[final flax]

@honest grail where can I start learning C language ? Gonna start learning it when I finish this year BTW cause I'm really busy in studying

[honest grail]

really just by using it and looking at examples, it's a super simple language
I learned it in under a week

You just need basic programming knowledge and you need to know how memory management works

Its basically a thin wrapper over assembly (the language specific to your processor) to be portable to multiple computers so it's very simple and doesn't really have anything fancy

[final flax]

How can I use it when idk anything about it xd

[honest grail]

well that's a good question, honestly I don't remember how I started
I think I just looked at an example of how to make hangman in C on YouTube and kinda winged the rest on my own

[final flax]

Hmmm alr I'll just look around for stuff I can take as an example too but in my free time

U sure u learned it in 1 week only ?

[honest grail]

Yeah, under a week in fact

Obviously I was worse then than I am now but I understood the core concepts

[final flax]

Is it going to be as easy for me too if my main language isn't English ?

[honest grail]

well probably as easy as any other language, there's not that many keywords so most of it is in English

[final flax]

Ah ig that will be fine then

[honest grail]

There could be an issue if your language doesn't use the English alphabet
C was made in 1970 so it only supports ASCII, which only includes the English alphabet, numbers, and a few extra symbols like () and ;
So if you make a string in C with Japanese symbols for example, and try to take the 3rd character, it will not work correctly

But that's also true for python and a lot of other languages, it's just one thing you should be aware of

obviously you can get around this by using a utf8 library which supports basically all symbols including emijis

[final flax]

My main language is Arabic actually but I'm still good at English... Like rarely using google translate..and the keyboard on my laptop is English so IG that's fine

[honest grail]

yeah, just remember that storing Arabic letters in strings might not work well

Also what other programming languages do you use

[final flax]

tried to learn python b4 from a website called 3schools.com but i just found it annoying to learn from it so i just stopped trying to learn it at all...but aint give up to learn C at all

[final flax]

@honest grail

pacman -Rnsu xorg got this after that command...I thought it will only remove unused xorg stuff

[honest grail]

welp

Just reinstall everything

[final flax]

Should I just install xorg-xinit ?

[honest grail]

that will probably pull the other stuff so probably yeah

[final flax]

Wym

[honest grail]

All Xorg stuff

[final flax]

Imma just try xorg-xinit for now and see if its gonna boot

Same thing..uhm which xorg is actually needed to make it work...I just don't wanna install it all

@honest grail

[honest grail]

xorg-server is the bare minimum

[final flax]

Worked thanks ..uhm for u do u just install all the xorg stuff ?

[honest grail]

You don't have to do that on gentoo, you just add X to your USE flags and it installs all that's necessary for you

[final flax]

hmm tbh just thinking about installing gentoo...but its just hard to use...thats why im just not sure

[honest grail]

I wouldn't recommend it, if you don't know how to debug and fix obscure issues its not going to be a good experience
Its more stable than arch usually but since every set up is so unique, you'll end up with very weird combinations that impact eachother and just have bugs that are hard to diagnose unless you're completely familiar with the whole setup

[final flax]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/848349994082893884/1061855930649677894/image.png

@honest grail is it possible to add the ones i want from here in slstatus?

[honest grail]

Yep
A lot are even built in modules

[final flax]

can u send me it as text to copy the ones i want faster

[honest grail]

Just remember they'll all be refreshed at the same time so if you want your current volume to be displayed every second, your CPU usage would be redisplayed every second too

[honest grail]

You wouldn't write them the same way
Slstatus has these as built in functions

Look at the default config and see the comments

(if you want them, they're also on my GitHub page under the dwmstatus project)

[final flax]

ig ill just use ur bar but will remove few things i dont need from it first but uhm i dont see the config.h in emacs

[honest grail]

?

wdym by the last part

[final flax]

take a look at ur github emacs folder...u aint see config.h file

[honest grail]

Why are you in the emacs folder
That's my emacs config lol

[final flax]

didint u say its under the dwmstatus ?

[honest grail]

Yeah?

[honest grail]

https://github.com/DaQueenJodi/dwmstatus

[final flax]

how am i supposed to use it

[honest grail]

Oh god this is from like a year ago lol, I didn't realise i still had that
That was my first attempt at making the status bar and I basically just copied someone else's project entirely lmao

[final flax]

oh lol

[honest grail]

Clone it
CD into it
make
sudo make install

Well first you'd probably want to edit config.h

[final flax]

just download the config.h and edit it then cd Downloads then make and sudo make clean install ?

[honest grail]

What

[final flax]

u mean the whole folder ?

[honest grail]

No that's not how it works
This is an entire status bar, it isn't contained in the 10 line config.h file
The config.h file is only the configuration

You need to clone the whole repo

[final flax]

so uhm git https://github.com/DaQueenJodi/dwmstatus

[honest grail]

Yeah

[final flax]

but i wanna edit it first b4 i install it

[honest grail]

then do that

[final flax]

should it be in any directory ?

[honest grail]

git clone https://github.com/daqueenjodi/dwmstatus (caps don't matter btw)

[honest grail]

Yeah it doesn't matter

[final flax]

alr got u...btw uhm does it use alot of ram n cpu ? or no

[honest grail]

Probably not
It doesn't do a lot

I never tested it since it works fine in my PC
But for ram it should use basically nothing, it never allocates memory after startup

You can change how much it allocates but by default it uses 100 bytes of memory per module and 1024 bytes just for the test in the status bar itself
You can change all of that but it might crash if you ever exceed the length so yaknow don't be too strict

[final flax]

uhm alr

static const char datecmd[] = "date '+%x %r'";
#define seperator " | "

#define SECONDS(n) (1 * 1000)
#define MINUTES(n) (SECONDS(n) * 60)

// {prefix, command, ms_interval}
static const Module modules[] = {
{NULL, datecmd, SECONDS(1)},
};
its fine like that for only date n time ? (just for testing tho)

@honest grail

• should i add it in .xinitrc
  dwmstatus &

[queen bison]

If you want to truly move to DWM you will also need to move to your mother's basement

[final flax]

@patent thorn

[queen bison]

Bruh

[final flax]

ban that toxic kid

[patent thorn]

Are you hoping to help or just shitpost?

[honest grail]

Yeah looks good

[queen bison]

I was just informing OP of a certain sentiment

[honest grail]

Yep

[final flax]

ig u should do something about it ? dont u think so

[final flax]

make
clang ./dwmstatus.c -std=c99 -pthread -Wpedantic -Wall -Wextra -lpthread -lX11 -o dwmstatus
make: clang: No such file or directory
make: *** [Makefile:15: all] Error 127

[patent thorn]

My advice, if you’re not going to help, leave the thread. I don’t mind people joking a little but if you’re going into a support thread just to shit post it’ll go down badly, as in I’ll start more actively moderating that behaviour or even removing you if it gets more disruptive. Not willing to discuss this further in a support thread. Good luck to the folks here 🙂

[honest grail]

Uhh one sec

[final flax]

thx tho

[winged wharf]

vegancookies received a thank you cookie!

[honest grail]

@final flax do you have a /usr/local/bin folder?

ls /usr/local/bin

[final flax]

yea

ls /usr/local/bin
dmenu dmenu_path dmenu_run dwm slstatus st stest

[honest grail]

Weird, idk where that error is coming from then lol

[honest grail]

Ah it's clang

Just go into the Makefile and change "CC=clang" to "CC=gcc"

[final flax]

alr

[honest grail]

Forgot to make it that before release
I use clang on my PC but not everyone has it

[final flax]

make
gcc ./dwmstatus.c -std=c99 -pthread -Wpedantic -Wall -Wextra -lpthread -lX11 -o dwmstatus
./dwmstatus.c:128:13: warning: ‘clean_exit’ defined but not used [-Wunused-function]
128 | static void clean_exit(const int ignore) {
| ^~~~~~~~~~
is this fine ?

[honest grail]

Yep

Dw about it

[final flax]

works fine thanks..uhm now how do i remove all slstatus components

not talking about its folder...talking about the things that has been installed with the make command

[honest grail]

sudo make uninstall in the same place you ran sudo make install

[final flax]

@honest grail is it needed to update dwm by recompiling it ?

or there is no update for it at all

[honest grail]

Wdym

Dwm gets updates rarely and yeah ofc when it updates you'll need to recompile it

[final flax]

just by removing the existing dwm folder and git clone the new 1 yea ?

then sudo make install

[honest grail]

Just git pull in the folder to pull the latest updates

[final flax]

ah thats way easier, thanks for letting me know it tho

[final flax]

if [ -d /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d ] ; then
for f in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/?*.sh ; do
[ -x "$f" ] && . "$f"
done
unset f
fi
@honest grail what does this do

[honest grail]

All it does is run every script in the /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d directory

[final flax]

ah

[final flax]

@honest grail xinput by somehow doesnt exits in arch..uhm and touchpad works again

xinput list
bash: xinput: command not found

[honest grail]

Well yeah, because remember you uninstalled a bunch of Xorg apps

Just reinstall it

[final flax]

is there a way to just get xinput installed without having to install all xorg stuff back ?

[final flax]

ig its only xorg-xinput

Virtual core XTEST pointer
@honest grail do u know what is that driver for ?

[honest grail]

I do not

[final flax]

whats the diffrence between sleep button and power button ?

@honest grail

[honest grail]

In what context

[final flax]

its just in xinput devices so i was just wondering whats the diffrence between them and can i disable 1 of them if its not needed

[honest grail]

Just try it and see
Disable one of them and see if it still works

But also I don't know why you're disabling so much, it won't increase performance or anything

[final flax]

ik but why would u need to keep a device or driver enabled while u dont use it ?

[honest grail]

You wouldn't need to
But it also isnt important to disable

[final flax]

@honest grail if i wanna delete my user completly from arch then make new 1 ill have to open the tty and login the root then sudo userdel [myusernamehere] right ? or am i missing something ...i want it to be completely removed with nothing left from it

[honest grail]

That would work, but I don't remember if it deletes the home folder or not
Either way make sure to back it up

[final flax]

did not delete my home folder

[final flax]

@honest grail can u take a look at that bar ? i want mine to be the same colors..and i have the config.h for it but uhm its diffrent for me in my config..wait ill send u his config and take a look at it

https://git.stasium.dev/stasium/dwm/src/branch/main/config.h

static const char col_gray1[] = "#222222";
static const char col_gray2[] = "#444444";
static const char col_gray3[] = "#bbbbbb";
static const char col_gray4[] = "#eeeeee";
static const char col_cyan[] = "#005577";
its like that for me

for him its
static const char col_bg[] = "#1E1E2E";
static const char col_fg[] = "#CDD6F4";
static const char col_green[] = "#8999FD";

did u get what i mean ?

[honest grail]

yeah they just changed the array that controls the colors around to make it fit with their way

they have

static const char *colors[][3]      = {
    /*               fg      bg    border   */
    [SchemeNorm] = { col_fg, col_bg,    col_bg },
    [SchemeSel]  = { col_bg, col_green, col_green  },
};

instead of the default

static const char *colors[][3]      = {
    /*               fg         bg         border   */
    [SchemeNorm] = { col_gray3, col_gray1, col_gray2 },
    [SchemeSel]  = { col_gray4, col_cyan,  col_cyan  },
};

theyre just variable names, it doesnt matter what you call it

[final flax]

done but its diffrent for me @honest grail

[final flax]

u here ? @honest grail

[honest grail]

Yeah

Idk how to help with that, they might have edited dwm to have full true color support or something
At which point idk how to even begin doing that

Again they can edit the entire source code of dwm
Its pretty much impossible to know what they changed and how they did it