[solved] pacman -Syu 'X is newer' warnings

[eternal silo]

When I run a system update I see these:

:: Starting full system upgrade...
warning: bash: local (5.1.016-2) is newer than core (5.1.016-1)
warning: gnome-control-center: local (43.1-6) is newer than extra (43.1-2)
warning: ranger: local (1.9.3+428+g0b77fb8a-2) is newer than community (1.9.3-4)
warning: steam: local (1.0.0.75-2) is newer than multilib (1.0.0.75-1)
 there is nothing to do

I converted Manjaro back to the Arch baseline, so these might be remnants (except for Steam probably, cause that updates itself)

Should I revert them? How?

[pastel basalt]

i'd pacman -Qq | pacman -S - to reinstall everything to make sure their the versions you expect

[eternal silo]

Thanks! I'll give it a try tomorrow.

The closer I can get to a proper Arch baseline, the better. (without having to reinstall my machine from scratch)

[eternal silo]

It didn't seem to do anything, but I am now running this:

#! /bin/sh

for pkg in $(pacman -Q | cut -d' ' -f1); do
    pacman -S --noconfirm $pkg
done

[eternal silo]

That fixed it! Thanks for the help!

[solved] pacman -Syu 'X is newer' warnings

[hot ferry]

There are pacman hooks to take care of such situations. And you may like to clean install Vanilla arch in the future as the way Manjaro is made may conflict with how arch works.

[eternal silo]

If I ever have to do a reinstall, I will definitely clean install Arch.
I think most conflicts should be resolved, as all Manjaro packages have been removed and no pacman conflicts are left.

There might of course be unknown conflicts, but I'm willing to find out 😄

If it goes wrong eventually, the solution is a reinstall anyway... so I might aswell postpone it (and keep on making those weekly backups )

[hot ferry]

On the aur there are packages that add useful pacman hooks to deal with package remnants

You may like to try it as it helps me to keep my system clean, and I use vanilla arch

[eternal silo]

Thanks! I'll see if I can find something tonight/tomorrow.
My Framework just arrived, so I wanna intall that asap 😄

(with clean Arch of course)

[hot ferry]

I can send you later the pacman hooks package name

Gtg

[eternal silo]

Awesome, thanks

[pastel basalt]

uh that could in theory break your system lol

did you leave off the last - from the command i gave you?

[eternal silo]

No, I included it

[pastel basalt]

oh you probably wanted -Qqn thinking about it

to not include aur packages

[eternal silo]

That's alright - I was willing to break my system with the Manjaro to Arch conversion.
I actually broke the bootloader and had to do live iso -> chroot -> etc. before it was fixed.

[pastel basalt]

the thing that could have happened is if manjaro had a differnt glibc or other library version to arch

installing packages one by one. you'd change the glibc version then pacman wouldn't work anymore on the next run before pacman gets reinstalled too

[eternal silo]

Wouldn't that come along with the arch kernel selection?

[pastel basalt]

this doesn't have anything to do with the kernel

[eternal silo]

ah

[pastel basalt]

im just saying it's possible that would happen if you do it one package at a time

[eternal silo]

i figured c runtimes and kernel would go hand-in-hand, but i figured wrong 😄

Ooooh, i see! You'd replace glibc WHILE pacman is doing its thing, and then breaking that as you're upgrading.

[pastel basalt]

ye ye

partial upgrade :P

[eternal silo]

Oof 😄 I was lucky 😅

But yeah, I totally accepted the risk.

[hot ferry]

Dm me to remind me of sending you the package names that add pacman hooks to deal with orphan packages

And sometimes it's better to just clean install Arch than convert memejaro into arch

[eternal silo]

Your DMs are set to private.

[elfin gate]

you could've just waited for the packages to catch up

[hot ferry]

I have those open. But NVM, will send you the package names

[hot ferry]

install pacman-log-orphans-hoo from the aur and it will help you identify leftovers