Trying (and failing) to install arch linux manually. Thanks for the help

[hazy dawn]

ls in there

should be Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi but I want to make sure

[hazy dawn]

ok cd Boot and ls in there

[mental knoll]

so what now?

[hazy dawn]

did you ls inside Boot?

is bootmgfw.efi in there?

it should be x.x

[mental knoll]

Probs not

That’s all I’ve done

[hazy dawn]

cd Boot && ls

[hazy dawn]

ok just cd Boot and then ls

[hazy dawn]

ok good now do cd /boot/loader/entries

then nano windows.conf

inside the file type this ```
title Windows 11
efi /EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi

[mental knoll]

its win11

[hazy dawn]

do you want arch or windows to be your default boot?

okay name it 11 then

[mental knoll]

Windows

[hazy dawn]

okay save and exit that file, it looks fine

[mental knoll]

k

[hazy dawn]

then we can edit the loader.conf again and change it to windows

cd / first to get out of the entries menu

nano /boot/loader/loader.conf

default "Windows 11"
timeout 4
console-mode max
editor no
``` change it like this, in quotes

you can increase timer too if you want more time to decide

can me like timeout 10 on second line for 10 seconds

and ofc pressing enter will instantly boot whatever selection y ou're on

[mental knoll]

should it still be in quotation marks

[hazy dawn]

yes

it has to be because it's more than one word

so need quotations

[stone cipher]

uh, they can't use systemd-boot in this setup

[hazy dawn]

yeah that should work

[hazy dawn]

why not?

[stone cipher]

kernel is in the root partition

[hazy dawn]

the entry points to root

[stone cipher]

it doesn't support booting from other partitions

[hazy dawn]

worked fine for me

[stone cipher]

well, besides extended boot

[hazy dawn]

it booted arch and windows fine for me with same setup

both bootloaders are in the same partition

[mental knoll]

its a lenovo thinkpad l14 gen 2

just in case u need that

[hazy dawn]

it should be fine

anyway before you exit chroot, you should check for updates since fresh install, sudo pacman -Syyuu

and also make sure network manager and dhcpd are set up

systemctl status NetworkManager

systemctl status dhcpcd

[stone cipher]

systemd-boot autodetects window's bootloader by the way

[stone cipher]

they won't be running in chroot

[hazy dawn]

if this doesn't work, I can help you remove systemd boot and someone else can help you with grub dual boot, cuz idk how

well I told him earlier to enable them

just making sure they are enabled

I haven't used grub for years

[hazy dawn]

oh I see

[stone cipher]

and you don't need to enable both networkmanager and dhcpcd

[hazy dawn]

after you reboot you can check, it should start if you enabled

[mental knoll]

k, so i should reboot now?

[hazy dawn]

no

exit to get out of chroot first

and umount -a

then reboot

don't worry about stuff being busy with umount -a it will just unmount /mnt/boot and /mnt

[mental knoll]

reboot now?

[hazy dawn]

or actually instead of reboot, you can poweroff

and remove usb

and turn back on

yeah

don't remove usb til you're all the way shut down

[mental knoll]

k

[hazy dawn]

🤞

[mental knoll]

Slight issue

[hazy dawn]

wtf lol

[stone cipher]

windows is autodected

[hazy dawn]

doesn't like your arch conf

[stone cipher]

and systemd-boot doesn't support booting kernels from other partitions

[hazy dawn]

my systemd is in sda1 and my root is in sda3

and it boots fine

[stone cipher]

and where is your EFI partition mounted?

[mental knoll]

i would guess in p1

[hazy dawn]

boot back in archiso

something not right with your arch entry

[mental knoll]

through the usb?

[stone cipher]

yours is mounted at /boot, there's is mounted at /boot/efi

[hazy dawn]

yeah

no his is mounted at /boot as well

[stone cipher]

no, it isn't

[hazy dawn]

we changed it while you were away

[stone cipher]

based off the fstab you didn't

[hazy dawn]

that's my fstab

oh

[stone cipher]

🤨

[hazy dawn]

we got to regen the fstab

cuz it's still looking for /boot/efi lol

we can just edit it

that's why linux doesn't appear in boot menu i bet

[stone cipher]

the windows EFI can't be mounted at /boot

it's not big enough

for the kernel

[hazy dawn]

we are using the windows EFI he already had

same partition

windows was already there, we just added systemd boot to it

[stone cipher]

ok but the kernel can't fit on windows EFI partition

and systemd-boot requires the kernel to be on the EFI partition or a extended boot

[hazy dawn]

the bootloader just points at the kernel, it doesn't need the kernel in it

systemd boot is just pointing at the windows efi, not the partition

it points at /EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi

efi /EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
``` This is his windows.conf entry

[hazy dawn]

mount /dev/nvme0n1p7 /mnt

mount /dev/nvme0n1p1 /mnt/boot

arch-chroot /mnt

[stone cipher]

ok?

[hazy dawn]

it works, I've done it lol, and followed wiki

[stone cipher]

I'm talking about the linux entry

[hazy dawn]

his linux entry is fine, it points to root PARTUUID

[stone cipher]

but it can't access the kernel

[stone cipher]

it's p5

[hazy dawn]

wtf lol

ok p5 not 7

where is your source that systemd boot needs to hold the kernel?

[mental knoll]

i dunno

[hazy dawn]

nano /etc/fstab

[hazy dawn]

change the boot line from /boot/efi to just /boot

just delete the /efi

[mental knoll]

That

[hazy dawn]

yeah

save and exit chroot

umount -a and poweroff again, lets see if that fixed it

if not then you got a typo in your arch.conf entry

for your partuuid

[stone cipher]

Cannot launch binaries from partitions other than the ESP or the Extended Boot Loader Partition (XBOOTLDR partition).

the arch wiki says this

[hazy dawn]

okay we need to fix your arch.conf

[mental knoll]

so what now

[hazy dawn]

boot back in archiso

[mental knoll]

Done

[hazy dawn]

@stone cipher how big is the windows EFI partition?

[stone cipher]

it's not an issue with the arch.conf

100mb

[hazy dawn]

oh fuck

can we grow it?

to 512 MB

or can you help him set up dual boot grub? cuz idr how

[stone cipher]

probably would just be better to use grub or refind

[hazy dawn]

okay lets get rid of systemdboot then

make a new thread, this one is in use already

[midnight turtle]

oh

my bad

[hazy dawn]

no worries

are you in archiso Bungee?

oh you already said done lol

[mental knoll]

yea

[hazy dawn]

mount again mount /dev/nvme0n1p5 /mnt

[stone cipher]

and mount /dev/nvme0n1p1 /mnt/boot/efi

[hazy dawn]

bootctl remove should get rid of systemd boot once we're in

might have to manually delete the directory loader but not sure

[hazy dawn]

once we're in lol

arch-chroot /mnt

and probably have to specify something with it

sec

bootctl --esp-path=/boot remove

since we installed it on /boot

[hazy dawn]

but you're mounted to /boot/efi

then ls /boot to see if loader is still there

then maybe @stone cipher can help you use grub

[hazy dawn]

okay just try bootctl remove

to be honest, when i was dual booting, I made another boot partition, and then just copied the windows boot files to the new partition, sized 512MB

[hazy dawn]

didn't realize windows boot partition was that small

okay now you can install grub

[mental knoll]

How do it do that. I’m not dat smart

[hazy dawn]

iirc grub also detects windows but you have to enable the hw probe or something?

[stone cipher]

ok first, install the packages for grub

pacman -S grub os-prober

os-prober is for detecting windows

[hazy dawn]

Oh I see

[stone cipher]

ok, now run grub-install --efi-directory=/boot/efi

[stone cipher]

pacman -S efibootmgr

I thought it was dependency

[mental knoll]

i NEED that

thats fucking amazing

[hazy dawn]

thanks lol

[hazy dawn]

do this again @mental knoll

it failed first time cuz no efibootmgr

sorry wrong reply

grub-install --efi-directory=/boot/efi

that one ^

[stone cipher]

pacmnan

you don't need to run that command again anyway

[stone cipher]

just run this again

[hazy dawn]

he did, it installed

need the config now

[hazy dawn]

grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg right? @stone cipher

[stone cipher]

not yet

[stone cipher]

now edit /etc/default/grub and uncomment the line about os-prober at the bottom

[hazy dawn]

I'm going to go back to studying, ping if you need me for anything not grub related lol

[mental knoll]

Okay, thanks

[hazy dawn]

nano /etc/default/grub you are trying to execute it and it's not executable

that's why it says permission denied

nano is the text editor that you can edit it with

[mental knoll]

I’m in

[hazy dawn]

uncomment that

[mental knoll]

done

[hazy dawn]

save and exit file

[mental knoll]

also done

[stone cipher]

ok, now run this

[stone cipher]

ok looks good

[mental knoll]

what now?

[stone cipher]

there's some stuff you should due to setup the system

first, setting your timezone

[hazy dawn]

already did

[mental knoll]

yeah, we did

[hazy dawn]

only thing I didn't help him set up was a desktop environment

or xorg or anything like that

[stone cipher]

nvm I just couldn't find the messages

anyway, you should be able to exit chroot and reboot now

[mental knoll]

i think ill sort out a de later, i just want wifi and to boot into it

[hazy dawn]

you'll probably have to use nmcli to set up wifi first time

[torn jackal]

Hi

[mental knoll]

it looks like its worked, ive managed to boot into windows

[hazy dawn]

see if you can boot into linux without the usb

[mental knoll]

working on it

it works. huge thanks

[stone cipher]

👍

probably want to get a desktop environment now

[mental knoll]

how long will it take?

[stone cipher]

not long

[mental knoll]

i take it ill need to boot into root

[stone cipher]

do you know what desktop environment you want?

[mental knoll]

im not sure, which 1s do u recommend

[stone cipher]

well plasma, gnome, and xfce are popular ones

[hazy dawn]

you don't need to boot at root

I made your user in wheel group and wheel has sudo powers

so you just need to sudo install stuff

[mental knoll]

I think I should sort out Wi-Fi b4 as my pc has shit Wi-Fi and I should move the Ethernet to that

[hazy dawn]

see if you got internet and dns

well if wifi probably not yet

ping 8.8.8.8 to check internet and ping google.com to check dns

[mental knoll]

It works with the Ethernet cable plugged in

[stone cipher]

do nmtui to get wifi

[hazy dawn]

oh didn't know it had a tui

just knew nmcli lol

that's handy

anyway good luck, ping if you need me. I need to go to Harvard discord to ask figure out why their C library stopped working all of a sudden

[mental knoll]

okay, i wish u the best of luck

What now, it doesn’t work

oh, it now works

right, we working on a de, ill look into them to decide my favorite

im gunna go with plasma

[hazy dawn]

.aw KDE

[south pollen]

Arch Wiki: KDE

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/KDE

[hazy dawn]

sudo pacman -S xorg plasma kde-applications

[stone cipher]

dude

let them look into it

[hazy dawn]

ok lol

[stone cipher]

also don't install kde-applications

it's mainly just a bunch of weird stuff

[mental knoll]

want me to just follow the wiki

[stone cipher]

you don't need to

it should setup everything it needs

[hazy dawn]

it's literally first line on the wiki though, what killertofu said lol

[stone cipher]

true

but it'll set everything up for you

[mental knoll]

so ill need a working xorg

[hazy dawn]

if you install xorg package, it should just work when you enable sddm

[stone cipher]

you don't need to install the xorg package either

[hazy dawn]

does plasma now include it as a dep?

[stone cipher]

it does

[mental knoll]

k, ill work on xorg now

[stone cipher]

so are you going with plasma?

[hazy dawn]

you need sddm as well, it looks like plasma only comes with sddm-kcm which is to configure sddm

unless you want another desktop manager/greeter

yeah and it blends well with kde

[stone cipher]

well, technically it's the sddm theme that comes with plasma

[hazy dawn]

i3, no desktop env lol

[stone cipher]

i use windows 😎

[hazy dawn]

windows key as mod key ;;

not femboy though, I got a wife and two kids lol

just like things that sync well with vim

carpel tunnel and cubital tunnel in both arms, so it's nice not having to use mouse or hands ever leaving home row

[stone cipher]

there's so many people in this thread lol

[mental knoll]

can some1 help me configure xorg as im pretty dumb

[hazy dawn]

it doesn't need configured

it's just the display protocol

[mental knoll]

ive just installed drivers

[hazy dawn]

just install plasma, sddm, systemctl enable sddm

make sure xorg is installed, doesn't hurt to try installing it incase plasma doesn't

[stone cipher]

(it will)

[hazy dawn]

sudo pacman -S xorg plasma sddm

systemctl enable sddm

then reboot and you should see sddm splash screen

[hazy dawn]

you need to install it first

sudo pacman -S xorg plasma sddm

[mental knoll]

K, it’s installing now

[hazy dawn]

yeah

does plasma come with konsole or is that in kde applications?

been a while since I used a DE

[stone cipher]

it doesn't

[hazy dawn]

heck you should also install konsole then, or you'll have to go to tty to install anything

[mental knoll]

Do I reboot now

K

[hazy dawn]

if you don't mind bloat and extra applications, you can get kde-applications which comes with stuff you need plus a bunch of stuff you'll probably never touch lol

[mental knoll]

What does that u

[hazy dawn]

since it's your first time using linux

[stone cipher]

they already have konsole

[mental knoll]

Hey hey hey. I’ve got a laptop running Ubuntu (this is my first hardcore Linux)

[stone cipher]

no need to force the stuff you like on them

[hazy dawn]

oh lol

I don't like it haha

I said "can"

[mental knoll]

I would like to get used to the terminal

[stone cipher]

not you

[hazy dawn]

oh you mean kitty lol

[mental knoll]

I’ve downloaded konsole

[stone cipher]

ok, you can reboot now

[mental knoll]

okay, im loading in now

[stone cipher]

technically not a need, but it's good to have

also, they probably don't know what the AUR is yet

[hazy dawn]

makepkg -si

[mental knoll]

Oooh, I love it. But I’ll work on getting it fully customised

[hazy dawn]

paru > yay

[stone cipher]

multiple lib

[mental knoll]

Do I do that in konsole

[stone cipher]

multilib contains 32-bit packages

[hazy dawn]

If you wanna use steam or any games

[mental knoll]

It says command not found

[hazy dawn]

Lots of other cool stuff in multilib too

Probably doesnt have an editor variable

sudo nano /etc/pacman.conf

[stone cipher]

(we're secretly hacking your system so we can mine vbucks)

[mental knoll]

i probs wont be gaming as i have gaming pc

[mental knoll]

yeah, sure

[hazy dawn]

(already put like 5 back door scripts)

[mental knoll]

possibly, i plan on taking it to college. ill need visual studio

[hazy dawn]

You need the aur then

[south pollen]

Arch Wiki: Aur helpers

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Aur_helpers

[hazy dawn]

Or the propriety one from the aur

[stone cipher]

or vscode

[mental knoll]

ill use what u recommend

[hazy dawn]

I recommend Microsoft's proprietary one

If you want all the features

[mental knoll]

unfortunately, ill be coding in vb, but wanna learn c# or c++

[hazy dawn]

I recommend paru or yay for your aur helper(I use paru personally, use to use yay)

[stone cipher]

you do still have windows installed as well

so you can use that for stuff

[mental knoll]

yes

thats annoying

[hazy dawn]

free udemy courses hehe

[stone cipher]

?

[mental knoll]

oh, i read it wrong. sorry

im just not @ full brain capacity @ 1am

sorry

[stone cipher]

ok

be patient

[hazy dawn]

the proprietary vscode is in the aur as visual-studio-code-bin, works just like the one from microsoft

for windows

well this one is the one from microsoft too,

[mental knoll]

do i just type that in konsole

[stone cipher]

no

do you have git?

[mental knoll]

i think so, but cant be 100% sure

[stone cipher]

just run git in konsole to see

[hazy dawn]

sudo pacman -S git

[mental knoll]

it produces something

NOT an error

[stone cipher]

then it's probably installed

[hazy dawn]

so you have it, probably help page

[stone cipher]

ok, now you need to choose between yay and paru

[stone cipher]

they aren't that different

[hazy dawn]

yay and paru are maintained by the same people

[mental knoll]

yes

[stone cipher]

yay is written in go, paru is written in rust

if you care about that

[mental knoll]

ill use what u prefer

[hazy dawn]

I prefer paru, but yay is just fine, they are almost the same

[mental knoll]

dont know the difference

[hazy dawn]

paru is rust, yay is go

paru default lets you review package first

I think you'll have an easier time with yay actually

even though I use paru

[mental knoll]

i flipped a coin, its yay

[stone cipher]

use yogurt

the AUR is basically a collection of user made packages

for stuff that isn't in the official repos

[hazy dawn]

build from source, use makepkg

[stone cipher]

you compile all packages yourself as well, (besides binary packages)

[mental knoll]

i need to be in root, how do i sign/log out in konsole

[stone cipher]

use sudo

or just su -

[hazy dawn]

nooo

[mental knoll]

ive ran that

[stone cipher]

or sudo -c

[hazy dawn]

just use sudo

[stone cipher]

but yeah use sudo

[hazy dawn]

avoid being root, you can do some damage if you're not careful

[mental knoll]

Yeah, Ik

[stone cipher]

ok

[hazy dawn]

best practice is to not use root and just use sudo

[stone cipher]

you can't run makepkg as root

[hazy dawn]

sudo pacman -Syu

he can he's in wheel group

and I had him give wheel sudo

[stone cipher]

ok, just, do rm -rf yay then exit

[hazy dawn]

lmao

[stone cipher]

idk what you needed to be in root for

[hazy dawn]

oh wait yeah removes build folder

sudo pacman -Syy

[stone cipher]

did you enable multilib correctly?

[hazy dawn]

something wrong with multilib

[mental knoll]

I haven’t enabled it

I’ve used nano

[hazy dawn]

scroll down to find it

[mental knoll]

Done

[stone cipher]

what does it say?

[hazy dawn]

now sudo pacman -Syy

[stone cipher]

they've already setup sudo

[mental knoll]

It’s downloading

[hazy dawn]

why not lol

I don't unless it's a fresh install or something

or having issues like this with multilib

[hazy dawn]

you got a kernel update ready too

should do sudo pacman -Su

and reboot after kernel updates

first get yay though

[stone cipher]

let them choose

stop trying to force codium onto them

[hazy dawn]

or proprietary visual-studio-code-bin

would be more stable for you in college

you can always try either and switch later if you want

[stone cipher]

also they technically never asked for vscode

[stone cipher]

just vs

[stone cipher]

not all as one

[hazy dawn]

one line at a time

[mental knoll]

K

[stone cipher]

not like that lol

[hazy dawn]

sudo pacman -S --needed git base-devel

[stone cipher]

maybe you should just go to bed lol

[mental knoll]

I was abt to suggest that, lol

I’ll get vs then go to bed

[hazy dawn]

by vs you mean vscode?

because afaik plain vs is not avaiable on linux, just vscode

[mental knoll]

Im not exactly sure, provided I can code in vs in vb

Im also in yey

[stone cipher]

it's yay, not yey

[hazy dawn]

it's yay not yey lol

go to bed lmao

[mental knoll]

right, ill go to bed

right, ill be back in like 10-12 hours

and thanks sm for the help

[hazy dawn]

gn

[hazy dawn]

(activates root kits, mines dogecoin)

jk

[mental knoll]

@hazy dawn sorry for the ping, but it won’t boot in the the de, I get this error message

I’ve also tried rebooting

[stone cipher]

you needed to change the fstab again

forgot to mention that

[mental knoll]

Okay, I’ll do when I get home

[mental knoll]

I’ll be home in about 3hrs

[unreal copper]

lol, seems u use nervostrong 😄

[hazy dawn]

Oh yeah the fstab we çhanged it to /boot. Need to make it /boot/efi again

[ivory mural]

we ç

[hazy dawn]

Idk why my phone did that character lol

[mental knoll]

I’m back now

Also do I need to boot into the usb

[mental knoll]

What command do I need to run

[mental knoll]

And

[stone cipher]

no

use nano on /etc/fstab

[mental knoll]

I’ll get on it in just over an hour

[mental knoll]

What do I need to change

[stone cipher]

change /boot to /boot/efi

[mental knoll]

Anything else b4 reboot

[mental knoll]

^^^

[stone cipher]

no I don't think so

[mental knoll]

Doesn’t work

Does it need a space

B4 the efi

[stone cipher]

you updated your kernel when the EFI partition was mounted at /boot instead of /boot/efi

that might why it's messed up

[mental knoll]

So what do I need to do now

[stone cipher]

show me ls /boot

[mental knoll]

^^^

[stone cipher]

and is the efi folder empty?

[mental knoll]

How do I check

[stone cipher]

ls /boot/efi

[stone cipher]

ok try manually mounting it with mount /dev/nvme0n1p1 /boot/efi

[stone cipher]

n1

[stone cipher]

that's weird

try remaking your initramfs with mkinitcpio -P

[stone cipher]

do pacman -S linux

wait 5.19.3?

you're on 5.19.4

[mental knoll]

? What do u want me to do?

[stone cipher]

try running modprobe vfat

then try mounting the EFI partition again

[mental knoll]

Then this?

[stone cipher]

ah wait I know

[stone cipher]

nvm just do this

it's because the kernel updated incorrectly

so the kernel you're booting from is different then the one arch expects it to be

[stone cipher]

ok now reboot

[mental knoll]

I’m in thanks, would it be possible for u to help me install vs or vscode (depending on the 1 I need)

[stone cipher]

sure

[mental knoll]

Thanks

[stone cipher]

visual studio isn't available on linux so you'll have to use vscode

[mental knoll]

I just need to code in vb

[mental knoll]

I guess that’ll have to do

[stone cipher]

ok

do you still have the yay folder in your home directory?

[mental knoll]

I’m not sure if I downloaded it

But I might’ve

[stone cipher]

open konsole and run ls

[mental knoll]

Yey is there

[stone cipher]

ok, cd into it

then run makepkg -irs

[stone cipher]

oh it's yey

[mental knoll]

?

[stone cipher]

exit out of the folder (cd ..) then delete it with rm -rf yey

[stone cipher]

ok, now run git clone https://aur.archlinux.org/yay.git

[mental knoll]

Dw abt me failing to spell

[mental knoll]

^^^

[stone cipher]

you did yey again

[mental knoll]

Fuck sake

I’m just dumb

[mental knoll]

How do I remedy this

Nah, dw I’ve deleted yey

[mental knoll]

Done properly this time

||I hope||

[stone cipher]

ok, cd into it and run makepkg -irs

[mental knoll]

What now, y or n

[stone cipher]

y

[mental knoll]

To everything?

[stone cipher]

yeah

[mental knoll]

K

[stone cipher]

ok, exit out of the folder and delete it

[mental knoll]

Exit quits konsole

Now what do I need to delete and how

[stone cipher]

I meant cd ..

[mental knoll]

Fair

Now what

I’ve been dumb and exited konsole

[stone cipher]

just run rm -rf yay now

[mental knoll]

Done (no output)

[stone cipher]

ok, now you can use yay to install AUR packages easily

for vscode, do yay -S visual-studio-code-bin

[mental knoll]

I see it, thanks for ur help

@stone cipher

Sorry for bothering u, I’ll just Google it

[stone cipher]

also, one more thing

[mental knoll]

Yea

[stone cipher]

can you check what's in /boot/efi

[stone cipher]

ok, delete the initramfs and vmlinuz files

they shouldn't be there

(cd into the folder and use rm on them)

[mental knoll]

Okay

[mental knoll]

? What command I’ve tried cd /boot/efi/initramfs

Yes, sorry I’m being dumb

[stone cipher]

no, cd into /boot/efi

[mental knoll]

I get it now

[stone cipher]

then run rm on vmlinuz-linux, initramfs-linux.img, and initramfs-linux-fallback.img

use rm [file] for files and rm -rf [folder] for directories/folders

[mental knoll]

Which 1s r files and which 1s r folders

[stone cipher]

the ones you're deleting are all files

use sudo by the way

[stone cipher]

that's good

just a little bit of cleanup

[mental knoll]

K, much thanks for the help

also @stone cipher is there a way to change the keyboard layout now, is it just the exact same way i set it

coz i dont think i have the uk layout

[stone cipher]

it should be somewhere in the KDE plasma settings

[mental knoll]

like through the setting gui

its okay, ive found it, thanks

[mental knoll]

yeah, but thatll have to wait as my college wants me to do a bunch of maths

ill hopefully be onto customising by wednesday

[mental knoll]

infact, i may do some later 2day

[mental knoll]

im free now, if u wanna help me customise

okay, ill look @ it now

[stone cipher]

default plasma theme is cool

[mental knoll]

yea, i quite like it

but ill have a look to see if theres something i prefer

[torn jackal]

Budgie or cinnamon is a good choice too

But kde is the king of widgets and stuff

But has a really unorganized settings

[hazy dawn]

be careful with some custom themes on the kde store. some outdated stuff can break your compositor or window manager

and even make it hard to log in sometimes

imo stick to something like breeze or oxygen or something updated

[torn jackal]

Or use a wm

[hazy dawn]

kde comes with kwin I thought?

idk been using i3 for years lol

[torn jackal]

Ik

I meant or use a window manager

Instead of de

[mental knoll]

turns out i need visual studio, not visual studio code

@here

@stone cipher ^^^

the 2013 version is recommended

it probs wont fly as its the colleges requirement

fuck it, ill see if itll do

so would i run - yay -S codium

so replace the yay with aur?

okay, thanks

k, thanks

what do i need to do to get coding in vb working

ive downloaded an extension but i cant get it to run

[stone cipher]

it's not on linux

[mental knoll]

ooof

ill see if vscodium will fly

if not, ill have to code in windows

[stone cipher]

vscodium is basically just vscode

[mental knoll]

fair

but the college wants visual studio not vs code

k

i still cant find an extension thou

give me a min, ill see if i can get it to run

[stone cipher]

not really

[mental knoll]

?

Not sure how to download it to vscodium

coz i cant search 4 it

It’s there on windows, not Linux

[unreal copper]

this is the longest thread in linux support

[mental knoll]

lol

its coz im dumb and have encountered many problems and cba to make another thread

yes, for now

if ive got time, i want to clear c++/c#

done, what now

Also, how do I screenshot on Linux

the link thing

I’ll do that in a bit

6.0.108

still get the error

do i just close it and reopen

[mental knoll]

Turns out I’ll deffo need visual studio 2013, so oof

Thank god I decided to dual boot

That’s a good idea

I’ll try it tomorrow

[mental knoll]

apparently, it wont work on wine

ill need a vm

i cba to install a vm at this current moment

[stone cipher]

don't you have windows installed?

just use that

[mental knoll]

yeah, was just gunna do that

[mental knoll]

ill just use it on windows