🧊Frost Mini - Haber City

[bitter glacier]

as is deserved

[narrow oar]

heheheheheheheh

[austere dock]

OMFG

[open pewter]

📌

[steep elm]

you can try it

[austere dock]

Throw him into the jewel

[steep elm]

hm

[bitter glacier]

lets do that then

[open pewter]

ty

[turbid viper]

https://tenor.com/view/the-punisher-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-noooooo-dream-sequence-gif-3498303690144489723

[bitter glacier]

can we turn the jewel into an IED as well

[austere dock]

You're ashes were already removed

[austere dock]

No its apart of rhe Gennie

[turbid viper]

didnt that fail

[bitter glacier]

remove it

[turbid viper]

the vote to do that

[austere dock]

No?

[bitter glacier]

sacrifices must be made

[turbid viper]

ok then throw him in there

[open pewter]

use the trade vehicle as a mobile IED since its already on wheels

[bitter glacier]

load the jewel with a ton of bombs then roll it out there

[fossil hinge]

I don’t think it’ll really do damage

[steep elm]

that is going to take some time if we don't want operators to die by it exploding on their face

[bitter glacier]

either way we need croud control

[fossil hinge]

It’s coal powered

It’s not that that combustible

[narrow oar]

do not the jewel

[steep elm]

and by some time, I mean 2 days

[fossil hinge]

How many alcohol rations do we have?

[bitter glacier]

@steep elm vanguards will use whatever headwear they are wearing placed on a stick to locate the sniper

via muzzle flash

[narrow oar]

decoy scug plushie

[fossil hinge]

Can the operators make some kind of improvised flame thrower using moonshine rations?

[fickle linden]

why did jincent remake the mongol empire?

[fossil hinge]

Or fire bombs

Something that looks scary

[narrow oar]

https://tenor.com/view/slugcat-slug-cat-pop-slugcat-pop-slugcat-stress-ball-gif-9290550643837204334

[bitter glacier]

@steep elm so what exactly does a general do

in this situation

[narrow oar]

their best

[fickle linden]

lead

eat lead

[bitter glacier]

[bitter glacier]

in general what does a general do

[fossil hinge]

I still like the big hat strategy

[bitter glacier]

should they be appointed

[bitter glacier]

agreed

[fossil hinge]

generalizes

Of course

[bitter glacier]

locate snipers based on muzzle flash

[narrow oar]

okay lets say uh

[bitter glacier]

the french did it in the world wars right

[austere dock]

We just tell artificer that they are scavengers and killed Hunter

[narrow oar]

"800-1000" rounds means 900

we have 750 now

[steep elm]

gather the information of what they're going to do and then neatly give what is going to be done to me so their orders are followed through and it's not 5 different people doing 5 different things that might conflict with each other

[narrow oar]

so at that rate

[bitter glacier]

lets say it means 800 to be safe

[narrow oar]

okay

then uh

15 turns

[bitter glacier]

I always try to assume I have less than what I have and am using more than what I am

[narrow oar]

i was gonna say 5 at 900

[bitter glacier]

better to be on the safe side here

using 5.4 fuel/min? no, ur using 6/min

[narrow oar]

the more we had the more we used yknow

[fossil hinge]

Do we even have moonshine rations?

[bitter glacier]

THE ALCHOHOL

[narrow oar]

bust out the cocaine

the gang at the factory is gonna need it

[bitter glacier]

lets use the beer in the public house to make molotovs

[fossil hinge]

That’s what I was going to propose roughly yeah

[narrow oar]

thats what the remsining 6 oppys are doing

[steep elm]

we are going by the hour
I don't think we're going to have time to eat or drink right now
Frost Mini battles are mostly short skirmishes with very little actual soldiers that determine the result of an entire war

[narrow oar]

"fiesel we need to cook"

[fossil hinge]

Did the duke give any sources on the size of the army?

[bitter glacier]

"reinforcements"

[atomic pebble]

-# wow

[bitter glacier]

I once again kindly ask the ministry to TELL THE DUKE TO HURRY UP

[fossil hinge]

Are we going to have a double siege or are they just going to disperse do we think?

[steep elm]

in theory he's coming with the Crown

but we have

no source on the actual numbers of cornish people

or the number of floefolk

[fossil hinge]

I see

Worrying

[steep elm]

or of parliamentarists

[fossil hinge]

I worry that once the duke arrives with his army

[bitter glacier]

we'll already be dead?

[fossil hinge]

The floefolk are going to rush our walls

And break through even if it means taking a huge amount of casualties

Because they know if they don’t the duke will kill them all

[steep elm]

well

in theory

they don't think the duke is that brave

[bitter glacier]

@steep elm how quickly can we construct an artillery encampment w/ 3 shells

[fossil hinge]

Dispersal is the best case scenario

If they just go home

Actually best case is that they disperse and then the duke chases them down and kills them

[bitter glacier]

well what do you suggest wohn

[fossil hinge]

But that’s a little too hopeful

[turbid viper]

wohns dead you need to let it go

but i don't think

1. we have steel to make the artillery
2. We have the time to make the artillery in under a day
3. We have the materials to make explosive shells

[steep elm]

not quick enough

"new" technology takes too much time

[atomic pebble]

-# (Someone had to show them the harshness of our situation, may chaos flourish 🫡)

[marble hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/dispatch-phenomaman-phenomenal-phonemaman-will-remember-that-will-remember-that-gif-12117790562261069541

[atomic pebble]

-# (My job here is done!)

[turbid viper]

@bitter glacier letting him die on the floor isnt enough torture is required

it'll do wonders for city morale

[atomic pebble]

Fake news

[bitter glacier]

yeah but we don't have manpower to keep him alive for later use

[turbid viper]

what about chucking him back over the wall

[bitter glacier]

as a distraction or just for funzies

[turbid viper]

both

[atomic pebble]

It will just waste time honestly

[fossil hinge]

Like the mongols when they started the black plague!

[bitter glacier]

but he's not sick

[steep elm]

I will be expecting a detailed military plan on my table next morning/in 15 minutes (in-game)
goodbye haberians, good luck with the situation you guys put yourselves in with the long series of decisions made throughout the game (mainly jincent's fault /j)

[fossil hinge]

We can fix that

Jokes aside I’m not against the death penalty unless Jincent has done special amount of information

[turbid viper]

if only we had rounded up the frostlanders or stopped them in the first place

[fossil hinge]

Discourages ppl in the future from leaking our city location

[atomic pebble]

(I mean my guys only did what they did because a series of misunderstandings and lack of clarification, in the end they opted to leave. But that backfired horribly)

[bitter glacier]

@atomic pebble you will not be given mercy

[turbid viper]

duketopia wouldve been established

[fossil hinge]

And he did commit a pretty serious crime

[atomic pebble]

And what would that achieve now?

[steep elm]

understatement of the century

[marble hatch]

Are you seriously proposing me as a general? Insanity rings

[fossil hinge]

Satiates the people’s bloodlust too

[bitter glacier]

a feeling of justice before we get clamored to death

[turbid viper]

satisfaction before death

dying at peace even

[bitter glacier]

ur already dead shush

[atomic pebble]

I mean i tried using bombs on them, but haber (gm) just poofed them 😔

[steep elm]

you are the person mainly responsible for expeditions and training scouts, which would be one of the closest things we have to organising some kind of army in this situation, even if Haber doesn't trust you at all

[marble hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/dalek-you-would-make-a-good-dalek-doctor-who-taken-aback-disappointed-gif-23781707

[fossil hinge]

Discourages future desertion and betrayal

[bitter glacier]

thank you

[fossil hinge]

Makes people happy to have a scapegoat punished

[atomic pebble]

Wdym by future?

[bitter glacier]

back to the situation at hand

[fossil hinge]

No one else will try what you did and run away

[turbid viper]

Wihn Jolson speaks with the world of the dead

[marble hatch]

-# Flashback to a certain old scout

[fossil hinge]

And if anyone else gets captured they’ll know not to lead people back to the city

And not to mention

People are pissed this is happening at all

This will ease tensions

To have someone punished

Plus regardless of anything

You have a serious charge of stealing city technology

[atomic pebble]

If only someone had explained the really of this region...

[fossil hinge]

That’s a long time in prison no matter what

May as well expedite the process

[marble hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/drinking-tea-heimerdinger-arcane-tea-time-i'm-here-for-the-tea-gif-2879644919458803154

We are between 2 options right now

[fossil hinge]

I may have missed it, what’s the explanation?

[marble hatch]

Because shoving more tasks on Haber will make commanding less efficient

[atomic pebble]

Ease tensions? You guys had a vote not long ago that prohibited executions

[bitter glacier]

we can change that

[fossil hinge]

It’s wartime

Rules change

[bitter glacier]

democracy is about changing with the times

and times happened to have changed

[fossil hinge]

You have betrayed us to foreigners

[bitter glacier]

you will be tried for high treason and publicly executed

[marble hatch]

Main votes are on Nric or... Me

And I suggest nric shall have it, I'm not that good with those guns

[steep elm]

Killing Jincent is against the law

And he's not even an enemy, he's just a criminal

And we don't have time to hold a vote to change a law while we are being attack from all sides

[fossil hinge]

There’s a legitimate legal argument to mark you as an enemy of the state

[bitter glacier]

and then propagandized into an example of what to never do

[fossil hinge]

We could label you as a combatant

Rather then a citizen

This we can kill you as a wartime casualty

[bitter glacier]

"DONT END UP LIKE JINCENT
AND STAY LOYAL TO THE CITY"

[marble hatch]

Does even anyone takes care of his wound right now?

[fossil hinge]

He defected to the enemy

[marble hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/that-is-not-justice-don-vito-corleone-marlon-brando-the-godfather-that-is-not-fair-gif-19260899

[fossil hinge]

Renounced his citizenship

[bitter glacier]

he led this gigantic army here

after mass sabotoge

[steep elm]

He literally gave us all the information we know about the enemy

[fossil hinge]

And we have not accepted him back yet or are sure of his intentions

[atomic pebble]

It was never explained what exactly the Parlimentarists did, some of you were probably also thinking of contacting them...

[atomic pebble]

Defected???

[bitter glacier]

until recently, vanguards have been keeping him relatively alive

relative to the bodies outside

[atomic pebble]

No, held under threat

[marble hatch]

Forced under a chance of his whole group dying
He did it for his people, which now lie near our entrance

[atomic pebble]

They killed all revs Erandel

[bitter glacier]

anyways lmk who yall see fit to lead the armies

[atomic pebble]

Jincent is half dead and there is only one rev around

[bitter glacier]

idrc if I get chosen ngl

the title seems more honorary atm

[steep elm]

Haber is not going to allow a death penalty to a criminal when just a little while ago we had a vote for it that didn't go through

[marble hatch]

We will bring it up later
Right now we need to make a proper choice of who commands the battle groups and what we can add up to increase our chances

[fossil hinge]

We can defer punishment to after I suppose

[marble hatch]

If someone doesn't follow the rules, no one does

[steep elm]

It doesn't grant any powers, but it still serves to organise things as the person chosen will be the go-to in times of war

[turbid viper]

make a vote that strips jincent of all human rights

problem solved

[marble hatch]

It's not a treason because he was forced, initiating contact had motives no one can prove completely

[atomic pebble]

Its simple we wanted a way out, back to nomadicism. But we got found out and threated to go back or die.

[marble hatch]

Smart pants for a neutral

[turbid viper]

i am he who solves problems

[atomic pebble]

First they came for jincent...

[steep elm]

Nomadic lifestyle doesn't work, confirmed

[marble hatch]

Radicalism killed a Wohn or how this old saying sounds

[fossil hinge]

jincent stole an incrediably expensive piece of city technology and deprived the city of it's labor at a critical point

[turbid viper]

Then they came for the other frostlanders and everyone said "Awesome"

[fossil hinge]

Don't do that, and I can assure you will be fine

[atomic pebble]

in this forsaken place that you (gm) created

[turbid viper]

Died for the cause of upholding civilisation

Martyred

[atomic pebble]

What?

[steep elm]

[fossil hinge]

the car

the car was very expensive

[atomic pebble]

The illegal vehicle?

[steep elm]

Car wasn't city technology

[atomic pebble]

Lol

[fossil hinge]

it wasnt illegal at the time

but it was made with city materials

[steep elm]

Car was EVIL

[atomic pebble]

Stolen by?

[fossil hinge]

and was probably going to be handed over to the city upon completion

clara was aligned with the duke

i trust her intents

[marble hatch]

This was a matter of time

[atomic pebble]

Biased

[fossil hinge]

she works for the duke

was explicitly hired by the duke

and has privately said she meant to use the car to help the city

and it was also not illegal at the time

[atomic pebble]

Idk they arent that friendly with the ministers

[fossil hinge]

We work for the ministers

[atomic pebble]

It litteraly was made as a secret using city resources

It was

[fossil hinge]

Resources that were delegated to us

[atomic pebble]

No?

[fossil hinge]

They were delegated to the factory

we run the factory

It was not illegal at the time

[atomic pebble]

@steep elm

[fossil hinge]

leading clara to think that projects like that would be permitted

[atomic pebble]

They werent in charge of choosing projects

[fossil hinge]

(also ooc note that i am debating as rradel eeach which may not reflect my real opinions)

[fossil hinge]

legally, that wasnt clear at the time

[atomic pebble]

Haber didnt know about it

[fossil hinge]

it has since been rectified

Haber isn't in charge any more

[atomic pebble]

Wow

Aint he the vassal of the Duke?

[fossil hinge]

I meant that to say he doesn't have unillateral power anymore

We were sent to aid with industry

Our duties weren't clear under the law, which makes making the car relatively excusable

On the other hand

Stealing

is definitely illegal

Especially when you are stealing for personal gain

(haber is about to demolish my improvised argument i fear)

[steep elm]

Those resources were originally destined to construction and were used to the car before that, it was one of the reasons we didn't have a second building in a turn iirc

[marble hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/wheatley-portal-2-floating-space-gif-2754720743391236501

Better give it to Vanguards

[fossil hinge]

It is excusable that Clara thought she could control the resources for industrial purposes before the law code was written

[atomic pebble]

You might have to deal with this Director Haber

[fossil hinge]

It is simply a fact, a fact enshrined in the treaty you all signed by will

[marble hatch]

Ye really will regret shoving army on a scout ppl
We have a group of specialists

[fossil hinge]

He has never been a especially strong hand anyways

(tbh this is making me kinda want to restart beacon but make all the npc factions players this is very fun)

[marble hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/starwarsdude-bungus-lucy-fallout-gif-5285343092469784581

[fossil hinge]

were you in beacon?

i prob cant say more bc i dont want to be smited for advertisement but it was a short lived rp server i made

[marble hatch]

no, it's just interesting to hear

[fossil hinge]

if i restart it i could invite you if your intrested

[marble hatch]

-# We'll see, i don't know anything at all

[steep elm]

Player factions only work if it's a small group or you have a lot of people helping, either that or you are able to keep track of a lot of stuff easily

Works with Haber City because it's few people, they have a lot of autonomy about their own groups and due to it being daily it stays fresh on my mind

[atomic pebble]

(rp took forever tho)

[marble hatch]

We'll from the very beggining the City's resources were stockpiled and managed by Haber
I can say it was more highlighted because some frostlanders attempted to snatch some food before this

[fossil hinge]

tbf beacon is only like 10 ppl?

[marble hatch]

Law code just points how harsh the punishment will be for breaking already existing standards

[fossil hinge]

the spreadsheet to track income is like

half finished

[atomic pebble]

(Loved how in the end both Wohn and Jincent got hated because of their choices, maybe we weren't so different in the end)

(And im sorry i got hit by the whimsy)

[steep elm]

"Maybe we aren't so different, you and I..."

"YOU KILLED ME YOU-"

[atomic pebble]

Its almost as if he is still here with us

[unborn flare]

https://tenor.com/view/we-are-all-gonna-die-gif-23367039

[bitter glacier]

we were quite literally born for the task of city defense

[verbal musk]

Well, then we agree we must work together for our survival

Don’t we have shields?

[sour stratus]

Duke is one of those 2/3

[verbal musk]

Isn't the Duke aiding us?

Why would he want Haber City citizens dead?

[sour stratus]

He is aiding us because we are usefull to him noting more nothing less

[verbal musk]

And he's useful to us

Isn't it a fair collaboration?

[sour stratus]

Im saing once we are usless he would want to destroy us since we would be a dead weight

[verbal musk]

And how are you so sure?

And why would we be useless?

We're his main coal source

[sour stratus]

If we cant meet his demands

[sour stratus]

For now

[verbal musk]

Then he'd lower them

[sour stratus]

[verbal musk]

Getting SOME coal is better than getting none at all

[sour stratus]

And if he has other coal outposts

[verbal musk]

Why'd he bother wasting resources on stomping ours then?

He can just call our collaboration over

No need to end us

OR, he can continue it

Getting other coal outposts changes nothing

More is always better

[sour stratus]

It isnt beside him to kill people

[verbal musk]

I'd think you're the Duke's right hand man to know him such well!

I still don't get what he'd get from detroying our city besides wasting resources, losing people, and potentially puting himself at risk

[sour stratus]

No but i was aboard their damn crown

[verbal musk]

And remind me kindly

How did you get there?

That's right, by going illegally on an expedition

[sour stratus]

By get captured by them

[verbal musk]

You were bound to lose people

[sour stratus]

And tahts how exacly a probelm?

[verbal musk]

After you left the city illegally

[verbal musk]

You should assume the death of those people

YOU got them in the hands of the Duke

YOU went to spy on the Duke

On your OWN ACCORD

[sour stratus]

I DIDNT EVEN KNOW IT WAS DUKE YOU FOOL

[verbal musk]

You STILL went AGAINST HABER'S WILL in the Frostlands

[sour stratus]

I WAS JUST CONCERN3D ABOUT OUR PEOPLE TAHTW ERE IN TUSK CAVE

[verbal musk]

Wether the Duke or the Frostlands claimed your people doesn't matter

It was bound to happen

[verbal musk]

You could have asked Haber for permission

And given you competent people

[sour stratus]

AND LET WHOVER DID IT ESCAPE?

[verbal musk]

Who weren't going to get caught

[verbal musk]

And did you find the person responsible for it?

You did not

[sour stratus]

WELL EXUSE YOU SPINELESS PEN PUSHERS

[sour stratus]

Yes

[verbal musk]

And who was it?

[sour stratus]

THE TRACKS LED TO CROWN

[verbal musk]

Let me find Haber's message

One second

[marble hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/wise-jay-sensei-sensei-wu-gif-22834934

Those group members can't stop biting

We solved arguments differently

[sour stratus]

I can get heated yes

[marble hatch]

Auraj, for now we must get rid of dangers which hover above us all

[verbal musk]

FINALLY FOUND IT

The Duke has stated that they don't have anything to do with the Tusk Cave disappearances

So they were gone before this

[sour stratus]

And like i will beleve that

[verbal musk]

Then that's your issue

You can believe your own story if you'd like

[sour stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/me-when-i-get-you-gif-1834222127792525549

[verbal musk]

I know

[dark marten]

The Duke stated they have nothing to do with Tusk Cave and the Revs have stated they have nothing to do with the death of Wohn. All is well besides THE GIANT HORDE AT OUR GATES.

[marble hatch]

We can shove all bodies in the pit with Jincent
For a few weeks or so

(Kidding, pit is too cool for that)

[verbal musk]

Except it oh so just happened so that the day AFTER the Revenants do a mass biological attack on the Office, and also the same day that they leave, Wohn ends up going "missing"

[marble hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-stupid-me-literally-me-kid-cat-candy-gif-12250501687033087455

I wonder what the Duchess do rn

[verbal musk]

literally me

[verbal musk]

Are you implying something?

[marble hatch]

Yeah
That I'm curious

[verbal musk]

And what do you expect to happen?

[marble hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/drinking-tea-heimerdinger-arcane-tea-time-i'm-here-for-the-tea-gif-2879644919458803154

Something, organizing etc
We know they've sent someone to help iirc

[steep elm]

The actual culprit can already be inferred based on the information we have public now

-# It'd be even clearer if the settlers that were from Tusk Cave were interrogated

[sour stratus]

The parlimentarists?

Or whar ever name tehy have

[steep elm]

Possible

[narrow oar]

probably

[sour stratus]

They do kill frostlanders on sight

Btw what kind of rifles doe we use?

Also is some manning the wall gun?

[steep elm]

I believe you have already asked that in DMs ans I have already answered it

[steep elm]

No because whoever tried to go to it died

[sour stratus]

No asked about redcoats

[sour stratus]

Ah

[marble hatch]

Somehow it shifts away with any issue at hand

[marble hatch]

Could we use the shields Revenants made some time ago?

[steep elm]

The older ones we have are still the same type more or less, only thing that changes is appearance

The ones we just made/rushed is the same as the redcoats

[sour stratus]

Ah

[steep elm]

They are extremely heavy and could make it harder to hide from shots of the "sniper" in case they shopt from different angles and the person can't shift the shield quick enough

[narrow oar]

are the couple blokes that were THERE currently fighting?

if not, interrogate them

if yes, can we wait a couple hours?

[steep elm]

Factory

[sour stratus]

Are tehy all coming from one side of us?

[narrow oar]

alright sure hold on

[steep elm]

The shots?

[narrow oar]

im a group leader i get to do this

[sour stratus]

Both shots and riaders

[steep elm]

The "sniper" shots came from the south
The raiders came from the east and are now divided in 3 groups to attack from the north, south and east

[marble hatch]

Next time I'll place it as a demand
For now we need a Victory

[narrow oar]

youll get my word for it

after the war is done i will do it.

i promise.

[sour stratus]

Well damn

I was gonna say maube we shpuld try to go around them from the back to take out the snipers but that would be risk and now imposible

[marble hatch]

Could we damage some piping to create a wall of steam to cover us?

[narrow oar]

hm

that could work yeah

you could just temporarily take out a pipe segment so uh

theres less possibility of the person "damaging it"

blowing up.

hot steam kids, not pretty

shouldnt take all too long really

[steep elm]

Which piping

The thing closest to them is the piping that goes to the Trade Office, but that is not in an orientation that would protect the people on the wall

This only becomes effective in case the raiders enter the city

And by then

I don't think it's going to look pretty

[marble hatch]

We have a generator in a full swing
Taking out carefully could damage the people

[narrow oar]

valves exist

just

shut off the segment for a sec

take out the thang

and turn it on

voila

smoke screen

[marble hatch]

Does the Trade office remains the most weak part of our walls?

[marble hatch]

We still are being surrounded tho

[narrow oar]

we also dont really have pipes running

along the walls

also the way youre wording it would mean uh

having pipes OUTSIDE (dont exist) to be damaged

[marble hatch]

We could burst the trading office and boil anyone near it, but is still quetionable

[narrow oar]

so those ON the walls are safe

[marble hatch]

The only thing near walls is trading office

Of course we could move an automaton to be a living shield, but that's a lot of risks, and no Nric and others to start a brainstorm rn

[marble hatch]

We could fill trading office with steam which they won't be able to pass
I could suggest to make use of automaton and neutrals, but can't put my finger on it

[narrow oar]

[steep elm]

It is the weak point, but it was reinforced a bit

[marble hatch]

I see...

Could we bossibly block it out with an automaton?

[steep elm]

What do you mean

[bitter glacier]

morning haberians

[marble hatch]

Just, lie it down on our side of the Trade office

[marble hatch]

Good morning Haberian

[bitter glacier]

he means to block the entrance of the office should it be breached

[atomic pebble]

What if we...

Mess with the automaton

[marble hatch]

What our City leader Haber thinks?

[narrow oar]

please dont mess with the automaton

steam cores are expensive

[verbal musk]

First thing that came to my mind

[unborn flare]

https://tenor.com/view/in-shock-gif-17553158948252598097

[fossil hinge]

What if they get past the walls tho?

A plan to detonate a steam core could be a last resort

[dark marten]

We kill them where the sniper can’t harm us.

[turbid viper]

killbox

[steep elm]

If try messing with a steam core to explode right now, we would probably also hit our own people as we are not prepared for that, and it won't be that big of an explosion to kill that many enemies

The only steam cores we have are the one in the automaton and the one in the Coal Mine, which are on the west of the city and therefore opposite direction of where they are attacking

We are not exploding anything as we are not prepared for it, the one moment we could prepare for a big explosion was the generator one but we chose against that

[sour stratus]

Well yeah what if it accedentaly detnonated

[narrow oar]

no

[dark marten]

We should really set up some fall-back barricades.

[bitter glacier]

yeah lets just make a rimworld killbox for next time lowk

[marble hatch]

[bitter glacier]

WE will stand tall with my leadership to guide us

[sour stratus]

Oo that was close

[bitter glacier]

it really wasnt

8 votes for me

3 for baro

3 for haber

[fickle linden]

we must surrender

[bitter glacier]

statistically 57% voted for me

[fickle linden]

we are outmateched

[sour stratus]

Well yea tied for second

[sour stratus]

Not all is lost

[austere dock]

We can still win!

[sour stratus]

Maybe not win but we can drag as many of them down with us

[narrow oar]

i dont think puppet has even been here in the last couple days

[austere dock]

Probably not tbh

She's been kinda busy tbf

[bitter glacier]

We are outgunned, outmanned!
Outnumbered, outplanned!
We gotta make an all right stand,
and yo I'm gonna need a right hand man!

[sour stratus]

Thast how life is

[bitter glacier]

where is tarry

oh right

asleep

i forgor

[sour stratus]

Maybe

[bitter glacier]

yall chose the guy who forgot we had homeless to lead your armies

amazing choice

[sour stratus]

Nope he is here

[marble hatch]

Jince stayed to put a Frostlander in command until the end

[sour stratus]

Well ypu are the militia of the city

[narrow oar]

well i did give you a billboard sized indicator

[bitter glacier]

thx for that

[fickle linden]

homeless? you mean conscripts?

[bitter glacier]

genuinely I forget I have homeless ppl in fp2 sometimes

until people freeze to death

I wonder how miss "we need a neutral force!" will see my appointment as head of defence

probably will turn negative considering what I have in store for the future of the city

[sour stratus]

Oh?

[bitter glacier]

its currently classified sowwy

[sour stratus]

Ah

https://tenor.com/view/foiled-cat-funny-cat-meme-cute-gif-4770784610413068186

[bitter glacier]

we nearly have 25 thousand messages btw

only like 600 off

[dark marten]

Nice.

[narrow oar]

okay but that still presents the question

whos shoes were those?

musa?

[sour stratus]

Shoes?

[narrow oar]

from the vandalism thang

on the radio tower

[sour stratus]

Oh right

Speaking of where did you get the large smounts of red paint

[narrow oar]

it was blood, juraj

[atomic pebble]

Its the reason we passed that body disposal law

[steep elm]

Corpses

[sour stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-cat-shocked-cat-side-eye-weird-gif-6628997367095455284

[bitter glacier]

it wasn't always blood

only sometimes

[narrow oar]

the red paint that musa used was blood though

[sour stratus]

-# really?

[narrow oar]

yeah

[bitter glacier]

only that one time

I specifically asked haber if the paint on the other vandal cases was blood and he said no

[steep elm]

-# tonight...

-# tonight I will make the post...

Yesterday afternoon I accidently "took a nap" on the sofa for 6 hours, woke up and made FR stuff, ate dinner and went back to sleep

[dark marten]

Nice.

[steep elm]

@here

Week 65; 14:00

things are... not looking good

we had 9 more casualties, mainly constables.

The major problem is that they have started preparing to get on our walls - on the north and south they are making use of corpses of their fellow Floefolk and spears thrown at the wall to climb it, and the east has hundreds of people trying to break into the Trade Office and the Logistics Centre.

20 total have already entered the said buildings, the barricades we have there having slowed them down considerably - but it won't be enough to fully contain them. They might get into the city pretty soon.

Some of the garrison on our wall tried to get the location of the enemy elite shooter - they succeeded in determining where they are. They are located a little before the southern frozen river

But

Once they started aiming at the sniper, they got shot from the north. it seems like the enemy doesn't have just one shooter. Still, we could probably take the one we figured out the location soon as we find a position where we can't be hit from the north.

we did take out 30 of them by holding our defensive position on our walls, but with them starting to climb it, things are not looking good.

May our general, Nric Eueueueeee-, come up with a plan to get us out of this

[no poll, discussions and proposals of a war plan would be appreciated]

-# [past post](#1454153857092288763 message)

[turbid viper]

https://tenor.com/view/praying-gif-3348052254980566268

please save us duke

[narrow oar]

https://klipy.com/gifs/kanaya-maryam-4

duke might not be coming to save us

[austere dock]

Uh oh

[narrow oar]

@bitter glacier SAVE US

[marble hatch]

we could fry them with trade office piping

[dark marten]

Would require taking people off of ammo production.

[steep elm]

well

if we don't want to be careful or ensure that damage is done

we could try our luck and

[sour stratus]

When did things look good in haber city?

[steep elm]

just shoot the piping

[narrow oar]

hm

[marble hatch]

I mean, all the choices are on general

[narrow oar]

we can fix the piping afterward.

if they get in the damages are gonna be worse.

i say bombs away.

[steep elm]

yeah, it's just not going to be certain whther it's effect or not

it could explode and kill 100 of them

or

it could just end up as a minor leak

that warms the up a bit more

depends on the dice

[narrow oar]

if we shoot multiple theres more dice to roll

[marble hatch]

Hmm, we are bare on options
Perhaps block the trading office with automaton's body...
For those who are trying to climb the walls... I could suggest throwing some flaming coal on them

Yeah, Tusk ideas are quite... Aggressive smh

[narrow oar]

geneva conventions were written in 1942, which is after the game plays

just fyi

[marble hatch]

Hey

I don't suggest to ram them with overclocked automaton

[open pewter]

Please Haber smite them down

[marble hatch]

So much evil

[steep elm]

"and then suddenly a Brazilian guy appeared in the sky and erased the Floefolk from existence"

[narrow oar]

haber

its time

remember your namesake

i have a suggestion

[steep elm]

we don't have chemicals...

they stole from us...

[narrow oar]

oh right

VINCENT

[marble hatch]

Not the fume fog

[atomic pebble]

The dice destroyed my bombs ... 😢

[atomic pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/otto-octavius-spiderman-sam-raimi-tobey-maguire-peter-parker-gif-23378845

I got found out by the wrong guys 😔

[bitter glacier]

oh my god the frosties are WWZing the wall

fuck

[bitter glacier]

I NEED IDEAS PEOPLE

I heard shooting the piping

[fickle linden]

blow up the generator

[narrow oar]

MUSA

[bitter glacier]

too late for that

[narrow oar]

shooting the piping in the trade office as often as possible

...

💡

i have 34 oppys

20 factory, 10 fighting, 2 constables,

2 free.

[bitter glacier]

its only been 2 of the 12 hours

[narrow oar]

we shoot the piping and have the other 2 divert more steam to the office

causing more steam to comw out

increasing effect

@steep elm can we do that

[bitter glacier]

we need to triangulate the location of the second sniper as well

[steep elm]

The two constables were the ones who just died

[bitter glacier]

quite honestly I dont really care about war crimes atm

considering we are about to be swarmed to death

[narrow oar]

then i have 4 free ones

[bitter glacier]

we need any and every idea we have

[narrow oar]

to do that

also we must have gunpowder to use the guns

[bitter glacier]

at minimum we need to last 10 more hours

[narrow oar]

cant we just

use that too?

[bitter glacier]

pour some gunpowder into metal balls with fuses

makeshift grenade

[steep elm]

We would then basically use up all our gunpower for bombs if so

And not be able to make any more ammo

[bitter glacier]

we currently have enough ammo as is

[atomic pebble]

If i ever learned something from rimworld, is that fires work great in killboxes

[bitter glacier]

well currently we dont have a killbox

we have a wall thats being scaled

we need to deter their attack

pour something on them

[atomic pebble]

Arent They coming in from the trade office first ?

[bitter glacier]

can we pour molten metal on the wall

[narrow oar]

...

[bitter glacier]

or something

[narrow oar]

fire up the steelworks.

[bitter glacier]

idk

[narrow oar]

and get buckets.

[steep elm]

We should've prepared this rimworld colony better to kill these raiders

[atomic pebble]

I mean if we all are going to die why not go for scorched earth tactics

[atomic pebble]

How?

Its not like you can just grab a bucket filled with Monten iron

[bitter glacier]

what do you suggest

[atomic pebble]

The best i got is starting fires

Or at least prepare it for when they break in

[narrow oar]

molotovs

do we have alcohol?

[bitter glacier]

we should

I suggested that last turn

@steep elm viability of molotovs?

we have spears don't we?

poke their faces with those when they try to climb up

same w/ the sabres

@narrow oar I suggest you stop making ammo in the factory and start using it to make bombs or melee weapons

[narrow oar]

roger that uh

would making both be too slow?

like 10 for grenades, 10 for melee weapons?

[bitter glacier]

prioritize grenades atm

or maybe a 70/30 split

@steep elm would it be possible to draft neutrals to the frontlines rn

[steep elm]

Don't think it's viable as the drinks we do have aren't that high in alcohol content and it's extremely cold out

[bitter glacier]

unfortunate

[steep elm]

Sure

[bitter glacier]

give them anything, even if it's a plank or a rock

we'll be doing that then

[steep elm]

The problem is putting people that aren't experts in spears against raiders with specialty in throwing and using spears

But it's still something that'll have some effect

[marble hatch]

Drop flaming ashes in their climber eyes

[narrow oar]

@steep elm 14 making grenades, 6 making melee weapons

as for

wiat

[bitter glacier]

have them hide behind cover until they are about to climb over

[narrow oar]

what melee weapons?

i like rapiers

[bitter glacier]

spears are the most effective rn but clubs will work

or swords

[narrow oar]

oooo or battleaxes

[bitter glacier]

spear is simple

long poky stick

[steep elm]

That'll probably take one hour to complete the full request

[narrow oar]

hm

all of them making grenades?

[steep elm]

That would be quicker

As it doesn't involve as much smithing

[bitter glacier]

let's do that then spears

[steep elm]

/ smaller scale

[marble hatch]

Perhaps we could bring down the machine gun from open place with automaton

[narrow oar]

nric

we are just making grenades

and will make spears if we run out of gunpowder to make grenades

good?

[bitter glacier]

yeah

[marble hatch]

We still have those heavy shields

[narrow oar]

make it so.

[bitter glacier]

give the shields to the melee folks on the wall

5 shielded ppl is better than none

[marble hatch]

We are severely losing

[marble hatch]

They're heavy to turn around

[bitter glacier]

@steep elm actually give them pickaxes and axes before planks and rocks

[steep elm]

Can you later

Compile everything in one message

[bitter glacier]

yeah

[bitter glacier]

how are we getting these ashes

[dark marten]

Drop snow into their eyes.

We have enough of it.

[marble hatch]

Scrub them from gennie... Wind up some of our coal stashes to burn

The only thing is that our walls are still wooden

[dark marten]

Do we have any buckets of heated water we could throw at them?

[bitter glacier]

current ideas:

• conscript the neutrals and arm them with tools, position them at the points in the wall that are being scaled
• use all remaining gunpowder for makeshift grenades
• triangulate second sniper
• drop snow, coal dust, and ashes into their eyes
• shoot the piping at the trade center while routing additional steam there

we need more ideas people

not all of these are guaranteed to work

even if you think it's a shoddy idea it'll be better shared than not

[steep elm]

Giving the Floefolk a bath to get rid of their fleas

[bitter glacier]

10 hours until duke right

I once again request the ministers to hurry the duke along

[steep elm]

Around that, yes

[steep elm]

Duke is already getting here the fastest he can

He has an interest in dealing with those people and doesn't want to lose a resource spot

[bitter glacier]

well can they tell him to go faster

put their tank engine in overdrive

anything

[steep elm]

Telling him to go faster Isn't going to make him get here faster

[steep elm]

And then it dies and they get stuck in the middle of the frostlands and never arrive in the city?

[bitter glacier]

can we send a general SOS signal across all radio channels

set to repeat every 3 minutes

[steep elm]

Well

The radio

Is in the trade office

[fossil hinge]

I really don’t think we can do anything to speed up reinforcements

[bitter glacier]

fuck

[fossil hinge]

12 hours to cross the Frostlands is already very fast

We just need to hold out

Our storage and generator need to be standing by then

Anything else is optional imo

Can we burn down the trade office with them inside?

It only took a turn to build

And if they breach the office they’ll cause even more damage

What’s the office made of?

[steep elm]

Wood and iron

[fossil hinge]

Hm

[steep elm]

The problem is that

A fire could spread to the walls

[fossil hinge]

Right

Ignore that plan than

The risk is too great

[steep elm]

Or the fire could spread to the city with the winds
Or get extinguished by the winds

[atomic pebble]

Maybe the Parlimentarists will come

[fossil hinge]

If only we had grenades

The duke should establish a garrison here for next time

Obviously a professional army of locals wouldn’t be acceptable but surely he can spare loyal soldiers in case we are attacked again

Do we have any combustible chemicals from the factory?

Are we absolutely sure no grenade?

[atomic pebble]

Maybe explosives from the mines

And something from the farms

[fossil hinge]

If we could collapse the roof that would be great

Eh then they might climb over actually

Depends how we do it

[steep elm]

We are using all of the gunpowder we have for grenades

[fossil hinge]

Shrapnel bombs would prob be best

[steep elm]

Sacrificing ammo production

[fossil hinge]

Oh I didn’t know that

If we collapse the roof of the trade office, how many floefolk do we think would die?

[steep elm]

We don't know

There's around 10 of them in there

[fossil hinge]

Oh that’s not worth it then

[steep elm]

But the roof could fall in the second floor and not fall into the first floor

[fossil hinge]

Could we collapse tgr building in a way that the only way to go through is over it?

So you can’t traverse through the building

[steep elm]

We'd need to have some sort of set-up/something prepared on the foundations

[fossil hinge]

Without compromising its walls or height

[steep elm]

If we get too close to it now

We might just get speared

[fossil hinge]

Can we feasibly get people disguised as floe folk?

[steep elm]

In theory

[fossil hinge]

I can’t imagine they have strict uniforms

[steep elm]

They wear all kinds of clothes

[fossil hinge]

They speak English right?

[steep elm]

Some of them even have cornish clothing

[steep elm]

Yeah

But the problem is

That it's too risky

[fossil hinge]

We dont know anything abt their command structure really

[steep elm]

These guys are using their comrades' corpses as stairs

[fossil hinge]

The office is already fortified too

Idk if collapsing it is really going to help

[steep elm]

I don't think they'd mind killing one of their fellows because they were being a bit too suspicious

[fossil hinge]

Unless we could get their general I can’t imagine a disguised operation is worth it

[steep elm]

And we have no idea who the commander is, or what clothes he even wears

As they all dress differently

[fossil hinge]

Yeahhh

[atomic pebble]

Fire cleanses all

[fossil hinge]

How full are our storage warehouses?

[steep elm]

Which ones

[atomic pebble]

He was wearing cornish rags (the leader i spoke to)

[fossil hinge]

Can we consolidate all our resources so it’s easier to defend if they get into the city?

[steep elm]

We have coal ones and the Institute ones

[fossil hinge]

I mean the duke has coal

If it comes down to it, I’d rather have food

[steep elm]

The coal we have wouldn't fit in the Institute
It's too much

And as for the rest, we don't even have much

We're

[fossil hinge]

I see I see

[steep elm]

Poor

[fossil hinge]

What buildings are wood and what buildings are iron in the city?

I’m thinking of worst case scenarios if they get into the city

[steep elm]

Most are wood

Mines have a bit of iron
Factory is almost entirely iron
"Bunker" has iron

[fossil hinge]

Hm

Yeah idk I think we just have to hold out

Is the wall gun operational?

[steep elm]

The problem is that this "just" is very difficult to do

[fossil hinge]

Maybe we move it to the trade office to avoid the sniper

[bitter glacier]

unfortunately I only thought of a broad SOS after they took the trade center

[steep elm]

Marksman was shooting at anyone that tried to get in it to shoot

[fossil hinge]

What’s the caliber of the gun?

Could we get people with shields to grab it quickly?

[steep elm]

That'd take them not dying to the snipers and/or not having Floefolk getting on top of the wall while carrying an extremely heavy weapon

[fossil hinge]

Or is it too heavy to be disassembled

[bitter glacier]

haber can we try to resecure the trade center to send the distress call

[fossil hinge]

Yeahhh

[fossil hinge]

I don’t think that’s worth it

No one’s coming

Save for the duke

[steep elm]

You can do an offensive operation to retake it

I'd need to have you choose the Participants too

[bitter glacier]

it couldn't hurt

[steep elm]

And that assumes there's anyone closer to the city than the duke

[fossil hinge]

It’ll cost us lives better spent elsewhere

[steep elm]

I mean

It could

[fossil hinge]

It very much could hurt us greatly

Can the automation be reprogrammed to step on ppl who get past our defenses at the trade office?

It’s obviously not going to really be

That effective

But I’m really desperate

I mean automations are pretty spry

Could kill like a force of twenty maybe

[steep elm]

If we're going against what we believe is raiders with 30 years of experience

That's an optimistic guess

[fossil hinge]

Yeah they’ll just sprint past

Can we send the automation to retrieve the wall gun?

[steep elm]

You can try

[fossil hinge]

It’s not like the sniper can destroy it

Will the wall collapse under its weight?

I assume the answer is yes

[steep elm]

You can test it out

[fossil hinge]

@bitter glacier considerations for recovering the wall gun with the automation?

Could reinstall it at the trade office or at a more secure location

Since the snipers can’t kill an automation

The snipers aren’t using like

High grade armor piercing rounds right?

It’s standard stuff that can’t pierce steel right?

[steep elm]

We didn't take the time to look where their bullets ended up at

They kinda just went through people's bodies and we got our guns back from the cadavers

[fossil hinge]

I mean

Surely ap rounds exist bc of lancers

But who brings an armor piercing rifle to the Frostlands?

Surely they only have hunting rifles

Right?

[pseudo bay]

people who raided an entire city for years

[fossil hinge]

Right but who would manufacture it?

The IEC wouldn’t bring any old world ap rifles

Bc that’d be a waste of weight

[pseudo bay]

[bitter glacier]

is this a possibility

[fossil hinge]

Unless the duke or another city manufactured such rounds for some reason

[bitter glacier]

ABOUT DAMN TIME

[fossil hinge]

We should be fine

[fossil hinge]

Right?

Uh Oh

[fossil hinge]

Haber said we could test the idea

The way I see it

There’s two risks

1. Wall collapses under the weight of the automation

2. The sniper destroys the automation using ap rounds

I don’t think 2 is likely

1 is possible but can be mitigated with testing

The wall gun could then be reinstalled at the trade office, allowing us to reallocate manpower and fending off any big assault

Idk if trade office is smart actually

Might have too many flanks depending on the layout

My take on the issue

Your the general

[bitter glacier]

do we know how much weight the wall can support

and how heavy the automaton is

or

I'm thinking

we take the wallgun

we saw a hole in the wall

and shoot through that

is that possible

@steep elm

[bitter glacier]

and then she left us to our doom

[steep elm]

The wall is "thick" so you'd need to cut a whole where a person can enter to cut it fully on the other side

And then you'd need to cut a lot of holes every time the floefolk noticed the hole and avoided it

[bitter glacier]

I see

well

I urge everyone who comes up with more ideas to ping me when discussing them

I need to be well informed on this

and I dont really mind pings as long as its not excessive

[marble hatch]

@bitter glacier
We could attempt to bring the gun down to us from the open place, using automaton
To use it inside when they'll breach in

But we have not much of chances

[fossil hinge]

I proposed putting it in the trade office but it risks being flanked

For the automation, we need to run tests to make sure it doesn’t collapse the wall, but it should be possible

According to what haber willing to say at least

[bitter glacier]

the issue with this is that unless we funnel them into the cone of the gun it'll be worthless

[unborn flare]

@steep elm could I attempt to hide in the shadows and try something..."macrabe" to these floefolk?

[bitter glacier]

they will simply avoid it in urban warfare

we could camp it outside of the trade office and shoot anyone who comes through but they will quickly learn to avoid that

& they are actively scaling the walls

I dont think we are taking that part seriously enough

they are literally WWZing their way over our defences

these "people" really are savages

[unborn flare]

good so I'm not the only one that read the description like that 😅

[bitter glacier]

yeah as soon as I saw that they were climbing on their friend's corpses I knew we were twice as originally fucked

[unborn flare]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-kitty-side-eye-side-eyes-kitty-side-eye-cat-side-eye-cute-side-eye-gif-5495120630602386958

[bitter glacier]

look at me that way all you want

this literally means our walls are a minor inconvenience for the main bad guy of this section of story

[unborn flare]

I'm just wondering how bad the situation can get besides the current crap show

https://tenor.com/view/napoleon-asyjdauu-gif-16491934308297234021

[bitter glacier]

this is definitely not live footage of me

I am a confident general who will lead us to victory

totally

[marble hatch]

Yeah, but we could forget the worry about snipers

Plus we already know that the only point we need be ready to shoot at is Trade Office

[bitter glacier]

once again they are scaling the walls

the conscripts will help with that but not forever and not well

and depending on where the snipers are they could shoot over the wall

[marble hatch]

We could... Throw flaming coal on the corpses they're climbing on, because all of them wear furs or other types of combustable clithes... And on those who climb with spears we could practice the same

Smog from blazing bodies wouldn't be healthy to breath in too

As well as attempting to crawl on top

[bitter glacier]

how are we gonna be handling these coals

if they are aflame

[marble hatch]

We have shields...

Turn it around as a bowl

[bitter glacier]

heavy shields

we might have tongs somewhere in the factory

[marble hatch]

Would require more people
We could use neutrals and unarmed

[marble hatch]

Just dump a whole shield bowl to make sure bodies will burn out

[bitter glacier]

considering we have snipers picking people off I don't think it'd be wise to haul a shield of burning coals up and over the wall

[marble hatch]

I also can remember that Haber mentioned that to ice bodies for HoF we use certain tech

[bitter glacier]

if it weren't for the snipers I'd totally employ this strategy

but we can't exactly guarantee their safety

[marble hatch]

Perhaps

We could apply the same strategy as we suggested about hiding people in steam, but use coal piles instead

Wouldn't be too healthy to breath in, but at least hidden

[bitter glacier]

I think our best course of action is to fend off horde while taking out snipers, then we'll be able to do a lot more

[marble hatch]

We have a fair stockpile of coal which we originaly planned to ship for Duke

Iirc

[bitter glacier]

wasn't that stolen?

along with chemicals

and the car

[marble hatch]

The main problem is that Trade Office won't hold long enough for this

And plus 100 on each side of the walls

[bitter glacier]

the trade office is a good funnel we just have to limit the spread from the sides

[marble hatch]

If we won't stop them they'll eventualy make a passage and we won't be able to bayonet 300 people

[marble hatch]

And how do you propose we do it if they have snipers?

Imagine them having a third one

[bitter glacier]

I mean if they breach through the office

only so many can come out of that door

if we can staunch the flow and kill them as they pour out

it's a good opportunity is all

[marble hatch]

Oh man
This won't matter if it'll result in a barikade out of corpses for them

We can make use of the automaton, could use the core from the coal to burst a heat wave in trade office

Or use valves as Tlara suggested

[bitter glacier]

if it's a body blockage it'd be even better imo

slows them down

then they can't get in as easy without moving the bodies

[marble hatch]

That's why corpses must stay IN the Trade office

Not inside

[bitter glacier]

or going a different route

[marble hatch]

How are you gonna shoot them then

You loose all advantage because they'll have a cover

[bitter glacier]

more about focusing them into one easy spot

[marble hatch]

We can burst the pipe

[bitter glacier]

if they can't leave anymore then it's better

we don't have to keep shooting them if we don't need to

[marble hatch]

And? It would help if we had a machine gun

You won't be able to reload and kill them with like 20 riffles

We also could block a chunk of them off in here

All of this requires either automaton or exploding a pipe

Second one could not even work

And we won't be able to take snipers off if the top of walls will be swarmed by them

[bitter glacier]

we can take out southern sniper if we find cover from the northern one

behind the grand institute perhaps?

[marble hatch]

If we win I expect to have terrifying presence perk or something on Parlamenters

[bitter glacier]

if we win the city will never be the same

[marble hatch]

On top of automaton?

Radio Tower?

[marble hatch]

It won't be
That I can guarantee

Not much hope on the Duke rn

We need to cut them out as strong as we can

[bitter glacier]

I'll give the Duke this

if he actually shows up and does something in time

that'll earn him a shred of my respect

but rn we're alone and near powerless

I want everyone to weigh in on using the automation for the wallgun

[marble hatch]

I suggest pouring flaming coal on the corpses after we get the snipers

We could make a smoke wall too

[unborn flare]

so corpse smoke wall was not on my bingo card...now I'm reconsidering plan: body snatcher

[marble hatch]

[verbal musk]

10 hours…

[dark marten]

Use barricades to create a killbox with a ‘second’ wall.

Get the gun back to a safer area.

[minor locust]

are we sure we still play frostpunk ?

it starting to sound like rimworld

[dark marten]

It always has been.

[bitter glacier]

frostpunk themed rimworld

@steep elm lmk when you want the defence plan

[steep elm]

it's going to be needed at around <t:1772571657:t>, <t:1772571657:R>

[sour stratus]

Oh boi

[bitter glacier]

current ideas (updated):

• conscript the neutrals and arm them with tools, position them at the points in the wall that are being scaled
• use all remaining gunpowder for makeshift grenades
• triangulate second sniper
• drop snow, coal dust, and ashes into their eyes
• shoot the piping at the trade center while routing additional steam there
• use the automaton to retrieve the wallgun

okay

now I just have to

formulate this into smth cohesive

[minor locust]

here have my tap

and glue

[bitter glacier]

behind the walls:
We'll be changing all factory production to makeshift grenades using iron and the remainging gunpowder. This means we can't make new ammo for the duration of the battle, which should be fine due to how much we've already made

coal dust, snow, and generator ashes will be collected and given to neutrals conscripted to fend off wall scalers

once a large amount of frosties are in the trade center, Operators will reroute steam in excess to that building to blow it up and cause mass casualties

at the wall:
neutrals will be conscripted, handed makeshift weapons such as pickaxes, and then instructed to stay behind whatever cover they can find along the wall, and to keep frostlanders from climbing over it. They will be given the mixture of dust, ash and snow to throw in frostlander's eyes

riflemen will be given the grenades and instructed to aim for groups to cause maximum damage to their force

the automaton will attempt to take the wallgun back. at the first sight of strain on the gun, automaton, or wall, it will be recalled and instead placed to blockade the entrance to the trade office

should the wallgun be successfully recovered, we'll position it facing the trade office

wall riflemen will also try to either triangulate the second sniper or find cover from the sniper to the north and attempt to take the sniper from the south out

okay
how does this sound to everyone

and is there anything I may have missed

[bitter glacier]

any input wont be accepted past this time so

[unborn flare]

the only plan i can think of is just complete chaotic psychological warfare with a mixed of pseudo-religious Hannibal lecter like zealotry

[austere dock]

Why are we using the Automation?

[marble hatch]

Why not?

[sour stratus]

Hmm i wonder could we pour molten stuff from genny down the wall like in the medival style defence

Or hot oil?

-# Right we dont have oil..

[bitter glacier]

because otherwise the guy who gets the wallgun will get sniped

[bitter glacier]

share it please 🙏

[sour stratus]

Ooo maybe boiling water

[bitter glacier]

I'm not sure about pouring anything honestly because of the snipers

[unborn flare]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-look-the-other-way-look-away-awkward-weird-gif-17246188

||uhhh...ok. well I was thinking that we could use the chaos to snag a couple of the raiders that are split away from the main group--wear their skins and cause havoc inside the main horde making them confused on who's allies or not...||

[sour stratus]

Hmm

Fair

[bitter glacier]

uhm

[sour stratus]

-# What...?

[bitter glacier]

interesting