#🧊Frost Mini - Haber City
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ive proposed a new judicial paragraph to deter further attempts
didnt you brag about being so good at adaption that your people arent getting sick?
the true face of adaptation
this is suspicious
i get the feeling you should be tried for vandalism
for what
Vactination
for fun
I second that
Dont you see this is for your own good? My people only did what was right!
If your working on the field of medicine you must overcome any disease in order not to make things worse.
wow not even denying it
That which doesn’t destroy us only makes us stronger.
Why should i?
what happened was a major misunderstanding by the medically illiterate
justice for the revs
and the doctors
Evil anti-vaxers
this isn't vaccination
this is just straight up applying the normal version instead of a weakened one
-# (and we dont know proper vaccines yet)
this doesnt give you the right to do that
variolation
because we don't have the resources for proper vaccination
or knowledge
ok this doesnt give you the right to do that on your own though
covertly
clandestinely
And allow for the epidemic to continue spreading?
You're the one spreading it
Things would be worse if we didnt acted
In a controled manner
how is it controlled
you dont know how many people will touch it
get infected by it
You just dont get it..
I'm glad to see our law doesn't even need discussion to get the support of the public
Yes, since the revenants are doing bioterrorism its neccessary
If we dont grow and adapt from the diseases we come in contact, the next plague will kill us all.
Even more now that we are doing trade
if we don't stop it in its tracks it'll kill us
letting our people get sick will needlessly weaken us
not to mention the suffering we can prevent
Your people seem to never have met true despair...
Imagine a disease that kills 70% of those infected by it.
We need this if we are to stand a chance.
At least until we develop better methods.
but maybe the cultural differences were too big... i will admit to that.
Hospital Expansion:
Quarantined Variolation ward
- Causes sickness. (That cant spread)
- Greatly Lowers lethality of epidemics.
- 1-2 % chance of death.
-# the Wario ward
- causes Wario
- lowers bank balance
anyway vincent consider this
slugcat squishy like small child (eric)
wont survive being infected
but we want to save everyone ;-;
It would've been fully contained if you hadn't infected the ministers with it 😔
how many people are in care & how staffed is the hospital
I know I could just add it all up off the charts but
too tired for that ngl
just the 10 revs and the 11 operators
also @steep elm ik we don't have our weapons anymore but I'd like to place 4 of the Vanguards on patrol and have them watch over the doctors
wow
So caught up in trying to save people from it, that they stopped it from dying out
Bravo revenants
one of these days a greater plague will be brought by outsiders (Either by the transfers of cornwall or frostlanders), when that time comes i doubt that many will make it...
tbf like all of my people were sick already so like
just let them be at the hospital to get well
i cant be arsed to be mad at you, vinnie
Hospital is 15/15 revs, 5/5 ministers
Patients are 11 operators and 10 revs
Out of 25 max
containment isnt enough, we need to overcome it.
But we don't need to infect everyone with it before an immunity can be built up
how exactly do you expect immunity to be built up?
Slowly, don't get to many sick with it to quickly
20 or so people isnt that many?
With our current population it's a bunch tbf
from our 191 citizens?
its a little more than 10%
about 10%
which is a lot when considering we are in an apocalypse
Maybe like 5%
perfectly fine number if you expect to ever be done with immunization...
Make sure we can keep all of our workforce working well and as intended
I want a lawyer to deal with this injustice against my Revs.
Technically they were given the punishment that they are given for the time being for the crime they are told they did
yeah but its clearly some kind of cultural thing
Well no, your guys tried sabotaging the ministers, there's no "injustice" here
They confessed they were trying to get the Trade Office guys sick
Ahb
The training to be immune is, but has haber said the ones impridioned did it on purpose
How haber did the 4 of them loose the ability to work in medical field or is it just a short punishment?
btw does this mean that, if proven, intentionally dumping of squalor can get you in jail?
If it doesn't get even worse
Probably yeah
'other health effects'
Ah so once it's sorted they'll be punished, what's the ramifactions on then until then?
new addition to the penal code i guess?
Haber already chose their punishment after all
Hopefully the constables find who damaged the factory
well, depends on when they are getting tried for their crimes
if they don't go to prison next turn
the new crime can be added to their sentences
why wouldn't they go there?
they'll be there working until the epidemic ends
if the epidemic doesn't end next turn
the new crime will be added
since they won't go to prison
Ah
well shit
it's over for those doctors
(btw just balance the sentence of the new law thing, the way its writen we can get like 60 + week sentences)
thats bs
you cant just keep changing sentences
you will end up losing trust
we proposed the forum...
right now they technically have no sentences, they only will be truly sentenced when the epidemic ends
Haber just announced that those were the sentences they'd get currently, but that he can't put them in jail right now due to the epidemic situation, he needs the doctors still
Fair
so, they do have crimes, the sentences just haven't been applied. when the epidemic ends, they'll get the appropriate sentences
maybe instead of infecting everyone we just create a weakened form of the pathogen that can be safely introduced to the population without actually making them ill
just an idea
with what advanced laboratory
the one we'll research and build next turn ofc
easy to just say that smh
maybe we can make a hole in the ground and call it a lab
Also I think the sentence for purposely disrupting the operation of a facility or general operations if the city should have a higher sentence than just paint or damaging something
worked for the logistics center
i love how its still unbearable to non frostlanders
well, it does, that's Clandestine Operations
5 to 30 weeks
Ah
vandalism
No because the damage falls under vandalism
here, it'd fall under this
but no one suggested a sentence
so it has no sentence
hence why haber went with just 3 weeks
also @steep elm the last 5 Vanguards on patrol will be dispatched to find the vandal
isnt the crime times getting too long?
-# I looked at the laws but I didn't edit because I was on my main account
we need people working
considering this has reached actual damage to the city infrastructure it's gone too far
well maybe the people working shouldn't be committing crimes
Yes but we also don't need someone actively damaging infrastructure
we need a functioning city first
my people did nothing wrong, there were no laws againts what they did !
smh
this & the hospital guards are both independent from whatever the constabulary decides to do
i dont think it would fall under sabotage?
thats not how any of this works
the infrastructure and facilities are still perfectly fine
I'm free to place my people where I choose
"i will send my mercenary guys to the hospital, if you give them uh... complete immunity from the police"
getting the ministers from the Hospital sick would be reducing the capabilities of the Hospital
I didn't even say that
meanwhile the people in the hospital are people you are KNOWN to hate
since you're harming the extra 10 spots that exist in the hospital due to ministers being there
I said that my deployment was independent of what the constables do
as would every case of injury and sickness
the laws will overlap
what?
yeah but like
it was the doctors, not the administrators, who willingly spread disease
im aware of that
for example in case someone commits murder of a minister, that would be murder, sabotage and Administrative Interference.
would killing an oppy be industrial sabotage
I'm not asking for immunity I'm telling my people to do an independent investigation & stop the weaponization of the current plague
there is too much overlap with the broadness of the current penal code
it's an investigation
HABER
you arent fucking batman
also I admit I didn't bother to look at the doc with all the laws on it

100 + week sentences lets goooo
death sentence
I dont think we have that currently
or a place to do that
not necessarily
you can kill a minister for various reasons, in the case of your revs, they intentionally disrupted the function of the hospital as they were trying to disrupt the functioning of the Trade Office too via getting the papers to be contaminated. They were INTENTIONALLY disrupting the paperwork and both workplaces (disrupting the hospital as a means of getting to the Office), although it only affected one of them
if you kill a minister due to revenge, it's not your intention to disrupt the infrastructure or bureaucracy; it's not intentional
as far as everyone here is aware, you intentionally disrupted the hospital. you could try and say your intention WASN'T to disrupt the hospital and only the Trade Office, but you'd need the Forum for that
we don't gaf abt the forum
I know, I'm just giving you an example of when killing a minister doesn't involve the 2 other crimes
anyways
"intentional spread of disease and other health effects" together with "administration interference" were the means by which you did a "sabotage"
Im just saying that the way sabotage is worded it can be used in multiple stuff
@steep elm am I allowed to do this
you can send your guys to search for the vandal as long as you have authorisation
but
hospital guards is a bit too much
they can just join the Ministers' decree after all
authorization from who
me
can you authorize 9 Vanguards going into an independent investigation into the vandalism
pretty please
you guys can join the decree efforts
the constables are the ones with haber's direct authorisation
what if I want it to be independent of the decree
well though luck
okay then
in that case I'll keep 5 on patrol and 4 to guard the exterior of the hospital to stop potential sabotage
again if that's ok
guarding is going to be done by the constables

I'll just sit in my corner then
uhm
9 vannies on patrol to steelworks
@steep elm
are you not sending people to the decree to help with finding the vandal
no one is working there
Just to be clear, in case it happens again would it only fall under "intentional spread of disease" or also sabotage?
My issue is with the possible overlap of the penal laws.
If its just a first case situation, i guess its fine.
ALL OPPYS ARE STILL IN THE MINES NOOOOO
you see I wanted to emphasize the independent part of investigating
your patrol won't do anything
now 9 Vanguards are
ok then

I got this one clarry
why am i a box
just worry about heating
Overfocusing on industry is a damage to the balance in the City.
depends on the intention of the criminal
if you commit the two crimes, you get convicted with the two crimes and get the sentences
Share all groups unity
On a scale of 1 to 10
Ministers are 9
Operators are 7
Vans are 6
Tusks are 5
Revs are 4
at least I got that going for me
wait
so i DONT have to sell hull on ebay to keep unity up?
WELL WHERES THE FUN IN THAT?
not partaking in slavery
I want to swap expedition crew on trained one from the Lumberjack post and train 5 more Tusks which are already in the Pit
Will do
Good
And chart a new expedition, can't collect dust on exploration gear
Ministers should be at 8 for the flush. smh.
There is no point in improving our industry if we dont have the resources to feed it.
Scouting is the way!
This turn the Revenants will do a triage effort to hasten the recovery of the infected.
@steep elm
something something the irony
Low unity, what can i say
But the immunity issue still stands.
unknowingly infecting people with deadly disease is not the way to immunize our population
not only is it super risky, it's also unethical and arguably inhumane depending on the symptoms
right now, we should prioritize containment while we make steps towards safe vaccination
Agreed.
I already suggested we begin plans to build/research an advanced laboratory to create such vaccines
right now, the combination of our law and the medical care will be enough to contain it until then
Like that will happen anytime soon
Just saying stuff wont make it happen
Until then we will be at the mercy of luck
infects people
wants to do triage
what did he mean by this
it starts the process
every idea started somewhere
this was an assasination plot all along....
Same with that promise for expanded scouting efforts 
Fake news
We would have targeted Wohn if it was the case
you mean from ministers?
I don't have a part to play there
it's not mine nor haber's fault if they can't keep their word
You were the first to promise that
"Help with scouting after the whiteout"

I wanted to but you frosties occupy all slots!
I can't support if there's no space
I specifically remember post whiteout asking haber to have 5 vans support and he said there wasn't space
considering you frosties are better at scouting than us I considered it better to leave y'all there than ask for space to be made
You know that i meant it as in expanding the exploration efforts and not in exploring the frostlands yourself 
Litteraly the thing i wrote
revs were betrayed left and right... but when THEY betray others, they get punished.. so unfair smh...
I wrote down expedition support
I didn't specify
I genuinely tried to fulfill the promise
as I had it down at least
other than voting for scouting in long term how can I help the revs rn
can I try to help with the triage
or smth
I genuinely want to right this wrong asap
yeah sure
Just convince the other Vanguards to vote for the scouting plan
Too many ppl with triage wont exactly help...
Might even cause more people to get sick
he already is
reminder that Pierre left
so our voting power is at 2, not 3
is there anything else I can do
that's not in my hands anymore
consider this an IOU then
it won't be bad for you, they won't be sparing that much people - so the little help will be efficient
hazmat suits fr fr
I'm fine with that
as long as we can help you out and repay our broken promise
idk if you guys noticed but "Duke Dogs" is written here
no
ok
it's soot with a bit of water
I was worried that if it was written in blood it'd be a vector of infection
and thus infect anyone cleaning it
Could ye please pin the post too?
(it is pinned)
Damn, I'm blind then
all those brawls have taken a toll on your health
Sleeping in the Institute too much
Lack of brawls is bad for health
@steep elm
Tusks and Vanguards would like to suggest a thing for next week
Brutalist logistic centre
+The capacity of Logistic centre is increased.
+Scouts are less likely to die in Frostlands.
+Scouts are more likely to additionaly find items which are connected to their type of training.
-Only people with any kind of training are allowed to Scout.
-More chances to get injured.
"The perfection is in simplicity"
Or how it was in that single book I've seen
shave haber to turn him into a true technocrat?
4
9
2
no
1060638310936100922
Disagree
here yee, here yee
the notion to shave haber has failed
I got an amazing plan for houses
So like
No new houses for a while
what if we mass produce houses
Mass-produce you say?
-# I love foxes
-# just like your sergeant
wait if heat is cut off to the coal complex are we not getting any coal or are the workers getting frostbite
im working on it
No coal for now
if the vandal is a player and not an npc
i swear to fuck i will get them
because the factory, and the coal cx are MY Operators
and this shit isnt about the duke anymore
this is bloody personal
The images should be a hint that it's not me
Therefore not an npc
right
i still bet on vony

I doubt Tony even checks this place that often
And is not here just for the house stuff
youre trying to get me off track
I'm just giving my honest opinion
If I wanted to get you off track...
There's many things I could do instead
Not to say it isn't him
I just don't think he pays attention to the details
my headcannon remains unchanged
-# same
Mandatory Physicals
12
14
1
enact
1064010167915659344
Order
had the vandal did that a bit a go, they would possibly been shot
why
If the next vandal vandalism is on a house I think we might have a case against you
long-ish term plan vote
10
17
3
betterment of scouting efforts
1061535911432691722
Frostland
Ministers had armed guards to protect Minister and Operator housing
Musa I think its you
Would a thinker make art that is not just a bunch of vectors
Yes
Doubtful
Musa needs to be interrogated
why? those are serious allegations.
i won't talk to anyone without a lawyer present
Musa, where were you the night of the vandal
trick question, any answer will incriminate me. I know your tricks minister
"Not at the same place the vandal was"
this gotta be cap
(Aka I will take a shower and eat breakfast)
next housing post is in 3 millennia
😔
we NEED housing
We have too many homeless
16 homeless means 16 problems
Well, 11 problems
housing faction when
Wanna see the art that took me months XD
5 of the homeless are ministers. The ministers are responsible for their own
i wanna
slowly slides furry art into the chat :3
That was a Wip
but i see you added stuff
This is the finished one
those eyes stare into my soul
the drone on the right looks familiar
W heat lamp!!!
:3
im mistaken then
It's a rain world Citizen ID Drone that I made up on the spot XP
-# artificer has one in the campaign
housing, not the factory
the vandal hit the factory
@here
3
Operators and 5
Revenants that were in the hospital last turn succumbud to their illness. Apparently, there was a strange lack of medical supplies regarding medicine materials, which didn't match with what was in the medical reports... The
Vanguard help in the triage effort prevented some extra deaths.
15 Neutrals are sick in the Hospital, 10
Tusks, including the scouts, are also in the Hospital
15
Tusks are sick and not in the Hospital, together with 8
Revenants and 3
Ministers.
We were going to start another expedition now, but due to the scouts being sick, our efforts have been stopped until the epidemic is over.
The factory is back up running thank to
Operators from the inactive mine helping fix it, but the mine itself will only be back up running next week.
We do have a building turn today, together with the research of a new scout building, since our long-term plan regards scouting efforts.
-# [past post](#1454153857092288763 message)
-# next post
she was responding to what tony had said about attacking housing if he were the vandal
are you saying 8 people just died
I wonder whos leader is in a dire need of large amounts medicine of
not with the hospital
WHY AM I ALLOWED TO MAKE CALLS ON THIS STUFF WHEN IM TIRED
I WAS TRYING TO SAY FIX THE PIPING, THEN THE FACTORY
we wilk solve all problems in haber city
GOD
house
DAMNIT
@steep elm as many people as i can, fixing pipe, stat
Brutalist Logistic Centre
By further expanding the Seasoned Scouts Law, we will hold our scouts to a better, even harsher, standard.
+Scout Teams are expanded to hold 10 people, allowing for 2 Teams per Centre.
+Scouts are considerably less likely to die in Frostlands, but they will get injured more often.
+Scouts are more likely to find items that are connected to their type of training.
-Only people with any kind of training are allowed to Scout.
Comms Logistic Centre
By building a Logistic Centre connected to the Trade Office, we will be able to make use of radio technology in expeditions.
+Every Scout Team will have at least 1 heavy portable Radio.
+Scouts are less likely to die or get lost in the Frostlands.
+Scouts will be able to transmit information and hold vote for decisions while still being in an expedition.
-Their speed slightly decreases with the increased cargo.
already the case
thank you
the problem with the factory was the piping
yeah but
it goes through the factory, to the coal mine
yeah
maybe the coal mine should have an auxiliary heating pipe considering this situation
you can't fix the coal mine before the factory
it's extremely important not just to appeasing the duke but also to our own survival
it shouldn't ever be this vulnerable again
mind have to come up with something in the future
im gonna find the prick who did this
Can the mandatory physicals check for chemicals on their hands so we can find the vandal?
okay thats
a bit of Amateur Angiology never hurt anyone
people may freeze, nric
why is it that me, the leader of the
faction, am the least harsh when it comes to criminal punishment
revenge
All you’ll find is :3
also! 20k messages
It’s just :3 in our brains
Wohn & Winston wanted to hang Jtone for mere vandalism
clarry wants to perform human experiments on the other vandal
Closing in on rats
seriously gng can we not be psychopathic for a single turn
:3
False accusation

:3
okay idk about Wohn but Winston I know for sure wanted Jtone to hang
However I support hanging the revenants now
If misters return the medicine
We aren't in charge of storage nor the hospital
You dont need to be in a charge of storage to steal
Can we hang Wohn already?
i mean technically its working
I want this Vandal dead
i still find it weird how the plague started
how many people died?
5?
so true bestie
8
clearly 5
:3
I also forgot to change total count of each group in the pop list here
7 people dead and you call this "working"
@steep elm when are we getting a chance to build that lab
I can't do math istg
we can't build a lab
we have nowhere near the necessary materials or tech
smh...
low unity... do you think i can control everything my guys do?
at least the idea exists now
15 sick Tusks means some of them will die waiting again
anything so noone else has to die?
for some reason it was saying that this server didn't allow for the link of this image to be added to the message
medical equipment is not what's missing, it's mainly chemicals and stuff
oh for fu
maybe an addition to the factory that allows some
basic chemical processing
nothing big
ill try and run smth by the minsters
soo we been looking into the sickness, and weirdly the folks from the factory are more resistant to it...
huh
okay
any idea
how?
your guys were the last to catch it now
is it the mold we have?
so what is this all about besides it being a mini-city?🤔
did the black mold in the factory spit out penicilin?
i dont got anything more than this
I think it was brought by the duke
maybe
if frosties brought it Vanguards would have gotten super sick weeks ago
and Catanians
then the ministers that were healed earlier would also be more resistant
which is not the case
I see
Yet I've left with 4 healthy people
And this could be a huge toll for someone's idiocracy
@steep elm I'm converting part of the training center into a makeshift medical post, manned by 5 ppl from steelworks and 5 from coal comp if possible
people can be part of groups that aren't necessarily limited by zeitgeists
and they can do evil actions and plot against each other
or work together to try and survive
Idiocracy? But everyone in Haber city is smart 
everyone in haber city is equally smart 
You progress tweaks are two steps away from joining the Hall of fame
wait there new emoji ?
...
more frosties died than ministry folk
-# I already have a hall of fame of my own
And no one is going to say the Duke anything
Worms
then why did it start with neutrals?
-# It's hull of fume
neutrals are ppl who abandoned factions after the negotiations
only a few joined after iirc
haber did anyone abandon the settlers before they split into us and the minsters?
from frostlands
3 of each oppys and minsters
-# [REDACTED] of {PURGED}
there were 5 of them but they are in the coal mine
Why are there 5 groups? I hate odd numbers

on the topic of neutrals
can I try another recruitment attempt aimed at neutrals in the coal mines
there are technically 7 if you count neutrals (no leader) and Redcoats (not currently in the city, they are our overlord's guards)
or try this next turn
after the med post is set up
sure
cool

ew an odd number (7)
I mean
if we also count the people who are sending messages over the radio
then it's 8
so
@steep elm
I request Constables to run searches in everyone's barracks to find those chems
If they're not here, ministers surely stole them with the last shipment
this is what I mean by criminal punishment mentality
all I did was patrol the streets
y'all literally want to search people's homes without any judicial approval
I want it on the record that I didn't establish the police state
sure
Haber will be doing that
If you remember, I was against jail system at all
And if constables don't do their job, why would we even listen to those paperworks
I am all the approval needed, people are dying because someone stole our precious chemicals
you are an executive
This is a emergency
There also can be a chance that this asbestos adds up too
metagaming 💔
-# /j
added some stuff to the penal code
I'll read the laws eventually

Insulation is for the weak
which is different from a judiciary or whatever it's called
idk if "judiciary" is a position but for the sake of the argument it is
I am all 3 spheres of power
since the others don't exist since we didn't build their buildings or assign anyone to them
theres the
Legislative, the ones who decide the law as it is written (Haber (and by extension Us and the Duke)
the Executive, the ones who enact the law in practice, catching you if you do something wrong, or investigating any wrongdoing (The Constables)
the Judicative, the ones who facilitate Trials and processes upon these laws (Judges, Jury, Lawyers)
so yeah
all 3 are Haber
What
wait is the english word "Judicative"
Idiocy*
yeah then that
the three branches of a functioning government, hull
…one of them have GOTTA be idiocy if our current governments have these
🤔 you have a jail already?
yea
Chemical Processing Factory 
-# An Upgrade to the Factory
-
The Factory can now also make new Stuff related to Chemicals
-
As well as more Complicated recipes like medication for use in the Hospital
-
Oppys that are working on medication cant also build normal factory stuff at the same time
-
Uses Steel to construct
@steep elm
will be added to the lsit of buildings
@narrow oar the thing is that this is more about using diseases to kill people rather than specifically doctors doing it
using a disease as a bioweapon and the likes, it isn't exactly medical negligence
smh smh
effectively one branch of undivided power
that's what I call tyranny
owned and operated by the constabulary
I hate that word
why is it so hard to spell
Executive - carries out laws - "the executive"
Legislative - makes laws - "the legislature"
Judicial - interprets laws - "the judiciary"
may I propose a new faction to haber city?
ask @steep elm
@steep elm prisoner faction, perhaps?

No
expected.
vro wants to pass servitude 💔
does he now?
👀
Ministers give total compliance, and if any have done this act, I wish to push for harsher punishment.
we shouldn't go after the vandal. it'll be a waste since they obviously know what they're doing. They also probably have insider info which is why they're so elusive.
What happened bro
"we shouldnt go after the vandal" is
top contender
What happened in the last meanwhile in Haber City
for the most vandaly sentence
i EVER heard
People died
I mean something unsuprising
evil frostlanders killed people by trying to impose
medical practices
are we sure it's not an npc?
Haber City’s known to be lethal
Some revs tried doing a funny to the Ministers, getting them sick
And ended up making an entire epidemic happen
hes not evil
hes just an idiot
damn
WHY THE REVS
The revs weren’t even bad
Wdym understandable
chemical warfare.
its kinda like vaccination
What do you mean the motive
look.
what if the motive wasnt vaccination
and they're just using it as plausible deniability
Did you not read when I said they confessed they were trying to get the Trade Office sick
big if true!
Damned revs…
i did not
THEY WHAT
Puppet
we shouldn'
boss... we need to kill the frosters...
t
What happens now
oh dear
be too hastey
The Baroness knows all, the Baroness knows best
W HOUSE VOTE
I demand for a vote that elevates their punishment now.
that's what the sabotage sentence is for
Where is it
-# maybe we should build some sort of... security stations...
I still think you’re the vandal
I think its hooper because the vandal art kinda reminds me of his posters 
-# w revs
district checkpoints
the vandal is great idk what yall are talking bout
gread?
The vandal is my loveeee
so true
the sentence for it is now 6 weeks
so they'll get 3 weeks for a count of administration interference + 6 weeks for a count of sabotage, all 4 doctors that were directly involved with the document
9 weeks in prison total, without accounting for the "Intentional Spread of Disease and Other Health Effects" count which will only be calculated later
THIS IS ATTEMPTED MURDER
DUDE
9 WEEKS ONLY?!
nuh uh
it was a practical prank that benefitted the trade office with free variolation!
They should be BANISHED or EXECUTED
the intent wasn't murder, they were only trying to get them sick - sabotage the trade office so it doesn't work
if they did get someone killed, it would fall under manslaughter in that case
NOT IMPRISONED
They’d occupy the hospitals beyond capacity
-# chemical warfare is a war crime for a reason
biological
in this case
-# that too
or maybe not, I don't know at this point, maybe it'd be still under Intentional Spread of Disease and Other Health Effects
They want to HALT the city
haber must contain the bioterrorists
They should be made an example
post haste
oh no there's a new suggestion
they're still doctors, very needed in this time/
Needed in a mass grave
we shouldn't be too murderous
DOCTORS
AH
THEY ARE RIGHT THEN
THEY’RE ALLOWED TO PLAY WITH OUR LIVES THEN
that's a matter of opinion
wh
No
we should forgive their mistakes
THE HYPOCRATIC OATH
summary execution
They should be BANISHED
well yeah, that's what the addendum is for, but we kinda NEED them during the epidemic now
I now remember you or someone else added a note of something like "but we should make use of every doctor!!!11" on this addendum
You along with them
im not sure they took it
THEY ARE THE REASON OF THE EPIDEMIC
-# not tradition smh…
their aim wasn't the epidemic, although they were the ones that caused it
as soon as we are able to, they are going to prison and never coming back to the hospital again
They are barely even punished
-# they should go to a mass grave...
We'll bury them in yours.
in my hate i zoomed out my discord too much
WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY’LL DO TO THE MINISTERS IN THE HOSPITALS
they'll get like 30 weeks just from this
you should have been in a dich long ago
Time is not enough for lives
What if they all suddenly woke up with rare “bullet in head” disease
well
smh we are treating doctors giving free variolation worse than the people who held us all at gunpoint
Did they sabotage the generator?
The doctors are meant to be saviors
lifetime convictions are wasteful.
talk with your baroness
And they gave the people better immunity to the disease
by infecting the,
They’re MURDERERS
m
You
WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF IMMUNITY TO A DEAD PERSON
THEY DOOMED MANY
Thats why we enact Penal Labour. And this crime is reserved for fundamental acts of treason
btw for these suggestions we'll need a vote to enact an amendment to our Reintegration law
Maybe a security state isnt so bad if we stop this darn vandal and the bioterror
answer
Can the Baroness put a vote for changing the law handling crime, theoretically
Or any faction at all
yeah
even bad intentions have an upside like shown in this image
they gave a handful of people an immunity because those people just so happened to be healthy enough to survive
This is borderline murder, its Manslaughter
charging the eels
any group can suggest for any law to be changed or repealed at any time, or to be re voted
but Haber can deny it
like, deny to have the vote

in case it's just not worth the trouble
Can the Baroness deny the denial 
veto the denial
Exactly
she can only veto votes, not unilateral Haber decisions
Death isnt viable unless the person has totally gone too far (basically become an enemy combatant)
Damn
Wait
Haber
@baroness please veto this information k thanks
lol
Ir something bad
democracy
yeah
cannibalism is allowed here? 😵💫...also "Kinda"????
we need a secret police advanced protection agency
because that's how law works, all or nothing
amendments make them more flexible and change the specifics
no one ever asked for that to be changed, so there was never a need
We need change and we need it now
well, you'll have a vote later
We have 1 single prison and it fits 5 people iirc
Yeah, the building
well, the prison can have 10 prisoners in it
huh, new emojis
and the necessary vanguards requirement gets bypassed by having the constables whose only job is to be police officers
but since we have no prisoners, we don't need to have a squad half-assigned to the prison
Hmm tensions seem high
I wonder why
Be it my will I'd shove prisoners to fight each other for shortening the sentence 
guys! the culprit is here, charge at him NOW!!!
I mean
good afternoon jincent
Must have been that vandal 🤷♂️
Culprit?
Hmm
I see...
Culprit...
Cul pit...
Cool Pit... Yeah it kinda cool
Crazy
They plan to shove ye behind the bars
everyone should face the same punishment, I don't care if it's a minister, a vanguard, a neutral or a frostlander
vandal should face same punishment regardless of affiliation
the vandal will have like 5 counts of vandalism
not anymore 😔
wrong reply
you still get the idea
You have paperworked our jail system
Such an idea would be real if we had voted for factions to decide fates, which was a vote option between executions and jails
Of course, iirc
it wasn't the factions that decided the fate
it was the general population, who could end up taking justice to their own hands
and perpetrator's affiliation could play a part on how the population saw them
Hmm...
I see
Oii @steep elm this isn't pinned
I think I'm gonna die in this...
Maybe don't be so militant in your ways so quickly
I'm the only one who doesnt want to rip apart the culprit
Not that part lol
We might never know if there are other hidden collaborators
Too much uncertain pieces
And I don't like unsolved puzzles
Rest assured, all will soon come to light. Our constables are already tracking down suspects
Someone is going to pay soon
I won't be assured as long as almost all my people lie in hospital
building 1
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housing
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build the 2nd
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housing
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research the arch
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Comms Logistic Centre
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progress
housing sweep 🔥🔥🔥
Soon the truth shall be revealed
forgive and forget?
5
8
1
yes (happy kind amazing option)
Wow
Most of Haber city is so kind
its a tie
And cool
haber city banned 😔
Doom
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
bruh
@here
Everyone wakes up, not remembering how they went to sleep... but, the
Revenants are... gone??
They appear to have fled the city, leaving a message:
"When you forgo your freedoms fearing a tyrannical oppressor, its when you give up on yourself.
We refuse to participate in this twisted mockery that you call a 'democracy'."
They say that, but they appear to have stolen a good deal of food, coal for fuel and all of our scout equipment... there ARE 10
Revenants, now Neutrals, that stayed behind due to their low Unity, and it appears that the ones who went away stole a 4-seat vehicle from the Factory which was not listed anywhere in our stock... they also say they made use of 32 Incapacitating Bombs made with chemicals from the hospital to put the entire city to sleep.
the Jewel also has a strange smell, and no one has been able to find Wohn Jilson @turbid viper anywhere...
they also exploded our radio equipment over in the Trade Office. Gladly the Trade Route already in place won't stop, but we'll have to fix that up soon.
they commit so many crimes and sabotaged us so much... and complain that this "democracy" is "twisted"? If anything, they were contributing to our downfall by stealing our resources and causing an epidemic...
as we didn't have anyone in the hospital, and the
Revenants seemed to prioritise their own sick, 8
Tusks died from the disease
on... better news, the Vandal has come forward and given himself up to the authorities.
@fickle linden Cusa Mavendish, a Neutral, has confessed to being the vandal, just as we found the place that he used to get the paint:
He was storing them in Iron Mine Alpha, where we have the automaton and
Operators go there at least once a day to make sure the automaton is fine, but don't really do much else unless the mine presents issues. He probably forgot to put the source of the paint in another place after he was done with it, which ended up rotting and causing the initial disease that developed into the epidemic we have now. I'll be accepting help from people to figure out his total sentence. (Also, thank him for the amazing art he has provided us with these last few turns. Sad that it ends now but good that we won't have people increasing our tension voluntarily)
Our Coal Complex is back in business, with 5 of the Neutrals that worked there converting into
Vanguards. For now, those that were in the Steelworks or Recruiting have been sent to the Hospital to work as doctors, seeing as they are the only ones here with experience, having done triage alongside the revs and having their training, which does include some basic first-aid skills...
The Director has sent word to the entire Cornish Market that, if found, the fleeing
Revenants are to be captured and imprisoned for their betrayal against Haber City, considering how much they have set us back by misusing medical resources, causing an epidemic, killing a minister, indirectly killing many citizens due to not being able to act as medical professionals and later prioritising their own over the general public, and making explosives that were used against all in the city.
we'll also vote on whether or not we give an amendment to our crime law...
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I split it and it worked
for some reason
THEY TOOK WOHN 

🎉🎉
Do I still get to vote?
kill all frostlanders... my final message... goodbye
well no
@verbal musk my fellow minister... i bestow on you the holy mission to kill them all
Wohn is only missing
no im dead
Also I think being at basically gun point counts as surrendering myself smh
Anyway
I'm lacking a gun
also @narrow oar you're getting interrogated soon for the vehicle that the revs stole, eventually that is
Do I g wet to talk at all?
But I shall accept
not as much as they stole from us
you need to organise the g word
yeah, you can vote and talk
