#🧊Frost Mini - Haber City
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how many times do I have to say Pierre isn't the voice of the Vanguards
Then control the vanguards
You sound just like Pierre and Sones
isnt the guy your second in command
I assure you, people look at what the soldiers do, not the leader
One of them has been vandalising and Pierre is not collaborating with the threats
They represent you
Granting the guns to the Neutrals seems safer
I mean functionally maybe
i mean yeah you didnt do it but like
you cant fully "white gloves" your way out
you have to take responsibility for your gremlins
-# like im trying to do
I agree with that
maybe we should slow down a second on that train of thought
The Revs are already trained, if we give those to us we will do a great job
Problem is that you're already pretty busy with stuff
You have a bunch of professions to take care of
am i busy?
Sure
Just, you can't really do leader stuff. You're just there
One neutral
Can we vote on it?
ah ah ah
Two
i get a tie breaker :3
once again why don't we slow down on this idea for a few turns
that's probably given to puppet
Fed Rlash and Carrison Hopper are different guys
Crazy timeline
It's just a consideration, I won't do it next turn, that's for sure
Oh, now you're wringling like a worm under some sun
What if we just get rid of you and keep the quota with the Duke? Will they even notice it?

We are the most careful with guns so far
(Since we don't have them)
You guys are leading secret expeditions, I'm not trusting you to not take guns with you causing us to lose them
Well scouting is our bread and butter
wha?
Sad to see you leave, but it’s been a pleasure serving with you.
not believing it but whatever.
How about we put the guns in a storage unit and Haber gets the key.
saving them for a rainy day
Auraj simply practices the subjects he'll have to know about due being the chosen one
Frostlands are the greatest teacher
Yeah
Then if someone steals the key it's all over
or picks a lock
haber, is Pierre leaving gonna alter the Vanguard's stats
Can I have the red one?
Even then, the frostlands are not a kind teacher - if he dies out there, I wish for him to not take anything that might be a considerable major loss for the city with him; we'd already be losing valuable manpower
-# alter
😛

@steep elm
So, in case we do in the future do the Vanguard gun confiscation, our options are:
Neutrals
Revenants (only if they are kinda free)
Wild how a froslander group ended up being the only one Haber can trust minimally
No
-# ay
alright
-# haber doesn't like Duke people
-# well im sorry mr fucking director
-# because they tried to (and arguably did) take his city
-# thats fair but
-# still hurts :(
can the Vanguards launch a PR campaign to improve their public image
Pierre left damn 😔
and Jtone's vote is invalid starting next turn
So it'll just be you voting for 4 turns
yeah
not to mention now there's talk of taking our firearms away
starting to feel like there's no way to succeed
I'm still considering leaving it working
It doesn't help 1 of your members was the vandal, and the one that left gave the Ministers hard feelings and gave some mild threats towards them
I still will write out the posters stuff
There's just a lot happening
You'll still have the PR heal stuff
I'd like the PR campaign to run alongside the posters
It's the part of the process, he's free to act with his small group as long as it doesn't harm our City
Huh
Yea Pierre just up and dipped
Welp
Huh

We lost lost a centrist and a a vanguard
Pierre was in fr
oh

-# khm
MOTHERS AND FUCKERS OF HABER CITY
I INVITE YOU TODAY, TO (another) MATCH THAT IS HELD SOON (in the Pit)
Leaving me out. 😔
we can have a round 2 where we both beat you up its ok
Didn’t Tarry want to participate too?

Well, Haber haven't pictured it but I'm injured already
Idleness doesn’t make you stronger
Warrior needs rest
Go and fight, warrior
we'll always remember you tlara
Will break your spine later
And you're an administrator
Relations affect which type of fight will be held
Jincent would like to participate in the next matchup

I mean leader match up would be intresting
Food problems
Health problems
i am a leader :3
Well yeah nut you fight me
because you are friend
Sorby Tlara, i bet on Fish last time and won big
Ah yes, later. Maybe someone will get to my spine first
and what good are friends if they dont kick the shit out of eachother sometimes
-# ...What do you mean thats not how any of that works

I remember that @dark marten mentioned type of a fight
And dependancy on relations decides which fight I will allow inbetween faction groups
Well yeah
(Basically Administration-Tusk one would be untill death or close to it)
:3
Ah
Lets... not do that one yet
^
.
The higher the risk, the higher the opinion gain.
Harberspeed.
ohhhhh
i would say surrender sounds fine then
Yeah i beleve so
with "out cold" counting as a type of surrender
Its a frendly match after all
You're just built different
what's a tv
science is amazing
Trully a marvel
Would i then be an axolotl
perhaps
A TV-wearer VS a fishy-looking fellow in a top hat.
-# "BOSS, QUICK, DUCK"
"Q- Quack??"
SMASH
Even out the odds.
No it's for something
Heads.
Alr!
-# why did you ask
D:
Digestive (System)
No
doesnt add up
there are 36 neutrals, the haber post says there's 32 but it looks like he didn't add the injured
♥️ hearts
♦️ diamonds
♠️ spades
♣️ clovers (aka clubs, I don't see the resemblance though)
hold on
discord is saying the clovers is clubs
my mistake
still don't see how it's a club but oh well
Uhh i was allways odd
-# where is government leaning
as always
Yea and it's also a different language for me when I play XD
The Weather :3
Fuuuuuck i forgot its so over
Alr let's see your fate
funfact
while posting the main screen
the faction screens arent done yet
so uh
...if you wanna add smth its best to tell me then?
Its odd you are winning the fight according to the dice
aw
renamed in the sheet btw
Nice
Lol
wait weren't these the uh
knucklebones dice emojis
originally
I thought so
myself :3
also you may see some uh
Should make a real version of them :>
Is that puppet's eye in there?


genuinely can't remember
woolhaven?
yeah the one from that dlc
Those look like eyes
i want to play it
ofc ofc
they are
...
btw sorry
i just havent found the time to continue uh
TE
as of recent
understandable
Fair
I missed something else
Eariler
I'll look
Twas when I gave the neutrals the Sawmill stuff
I'll just change the injured to be assigned at the sawmill
Wow are those new abilities for the Revenants AND the Operators? How weird
oh btw
while i have you here
Haber City General Hospital 

-# The Revenants and the Operators have been busy with planning an upgrade to our Hospital infrastructure, combining both Technology and Knowledge, they have created a much needed improvement.
-
Much Higher Patient Capacity (15)
-More Workforce needed to Operate at full capacity (15) -
More Efficient at Curing/Healing Patients
May be Quite Costly in Constructing
I'll add it to the list
:3
:§
almost 200 pop soon
if we reach the thousands I just need to do little purges here and there
keep it at fp1 scale forever
anyway... time to disappear to prepare stuff for my rpg
I am... inevitable.
Even when puppet votes it'll still win
why does everyone want to expand the hole in the ground
no appreciation for the beauty of heavy industry smh my head
More steel should be good for our survival
Has Haber gone into how (abundant) steel and wood works for building?
Like more = bigger buildings?
theres nothing humanity loves more than the art of digging holes
whether it be looking for treasure, making a moat, or uncovering our past, as well as a pass time on the beach
holes are gonna be there!
increases chance of double buildings
Maybe 20 coal for 5 food is better cause it leaves room for error in case theres a temperature drop
when was last temperature drop
ah
we have a very good gennie then
considering haber made it out of
some bins the polaris steward left out
-# haberium?
the game is supposed to have really bare bones systems overall
mainly so that the people can have fun and not have to worry too much with mechanical implications
that and I'm only one person
and I try to keep the time I invest in this daily to an hour or so
since I have stuff that needs to be done
yknow what
im repealing the uh
"relations only change both ways" thing officially
every group has their own relations for other groups
means someone can hate someone, while the other can like them back
makes things easier
Sounds fair
Building
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Pit Grounds
🕳️
Trade Route
13
15
1
yes
1073180513050832917
Agree
if yes
12
15
1
40 coal for 10 food
its over
More cores :3c?
Frostlands always provide
We will see
PLACE YOUR BETS :3
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Auraj Jxolotl
@here
The Vandal has stuck again
With Sones behind bars, it appears he was not the only one running around vandalising things... the vandal this time also used blood, although it's unknown where he got it... we might need some
Revenants with medical knowledge to check it out.
The Vanguards have also been distributing some papers to try and get more people, at the same time doing some campaigns to improve their public image... for now, it only had minor effects on their reputation, but it's slowly having results. The Training Grounds being their place of operations has helped organisation a bit.
Our food situation is now fine, but our coal excess is only 48 since some vanguards left the mines and the trade deal has gone through. We already have enough for our quota, but we should still be careful.
-# [past post](#1454153857092288763 message)
-# [next post](#1454153857092288763 message)
such an evil vandal
using blood...
now
I assure you, this time it's also a vanguard
Or worse... a tusk
oh yeah, there's also shoes on the radio tower
What kind
WHERE DID THEY GET THE BLOOD FROM
Who the fuck did the vandal get the blood form O.o
the haberian shoe kind
what like
the one
one size fits all government mandated booties
that our citizens use
but no shoes are missing from our stocks or people
so that's also a mistery
this is fucking weird
That's quite a lot of blood for a single person to give for vandalism without either loosing a lot of theirs or they used someone elses
So, NOT a minister or operator?
we have shoes from nowhere laying around
and blood from unknown sources everywhere
like thats a fuckin biohazard
I'm sure the shoes were that of the victim
people could get sick from that
I mean
the ones that were settlers use the same as the rest of us
the ones that were in the crown use slightly better one but will eventually need to use the haberians one as their shoes get ripped and suffer from tears or something
i dont mind vandalism but going against public health like this is crossing the line
We could close the area
Do we know if anyone besides stone is missing from the city that isn't accounted for with scouting?
Oh
So
Could be anyone
so its not me then
It's not me
idk you could have stolen shoes from somewhere
or something
I mean
yeah, shoe stealer
Auraj could talk when he was kidnapped
It could be anyone of us
Except the group leaders, I suppose
It's definitely in the operators goal to go against the crown 🤔
well its hardly gonna be the minsters
ts is the hood bro
they wouldnt vandalize themselves
If he could talk when he wasn't here, then we can talk when we're dead
I'm more worried about whose blood is that
didnt like an axe go missing some time ago
I'm sure it's a tusk
Ysa
I still think Tony somehow came to life, and he's a serial vandalizer/murderer
noone got axe murdered
-# #1454153857092288763 message
so where
That we know of
wasn't that way before the axe got stolen
whos missing.
no one is
dawg
Im not even in a faction
Anyone that looks injured that isn't the frostbiten people?
im gonna ask vinnie to help in identifying
the 2 tusks that beat themselves up
So unlikely to be the vandals :/
He maybe has told his intentions
As a small prediction
Maybe you're a neutral
You're also VERY opposed to the Duke
since it's Tony I wouldn't doubt him to do that
This City starts to look like our camp
All in blood
as in, telling his intentions

So
yea
it's the goog doctrine to be honest (I think)
Tony, did you steal the axe?
no
Tony, did good tell you to steal the axe?
The oggo doctrine
Did goog take over your body to steal an axe?
THE CONSPIRACY RUNS DEEP
so, let's put tony in prison, problem solved and everything goes well
no
DISORDER RAMPANT
I meant goog
Goog enough
Maybe its the tusks. They beat each other up, maybe the bloods from there
why am I being beat up for my beliefs
maybe it's the mi
nisters
are you suggesting that we did a false flag
trying to get a justification to kill the frostlanders in haber city...
the minsters...
i means thats reasonable I'd also consider that if I was a colonial rebel looking for pretenses to kill the administration
Ill send some Revenants to check it out
@steep elm
The only caught vandal wasn't a frostlander
so a bad way to do that
no more emojis in the posts 
can i (institute operator) have a look at the radio tower?
Shrimply forward posts
all is lot
From your personal server
and ping them here
they only shoe'd it
i see
-# It was a minister trying to create fake evidence to imprision innocents... /j
"TLARA WHY ARE YOU ON THE BUILDING"
-# "WHAT"
"WHY ARE YOU ON THE BUILDING"
-# "WHAT, I CANT HEAR YOU IM ON THE BUILDING"
is there any reindeer nearby?
You can write the post in the server you have the emojis in
and forward it here
cheap
cooper
-# the polls still won't have the emojis...
no
ok
its been established
I didn't even get a message when mine was about to run out, it just disappeared on me XD
also its fed rlare
js cause I hate the duke doesnt mean ill do acts like this
People arguing who the vandal is. Meanwhile I’m in Gaol.
Also do we know how the figh went?
Doubt it
but fair enough
is this how the falsely accused feel
yes
ah
Jones Stone hit me with a nitro to the head... it hurts but at least the emojis will continue
I already have the results
One of you is trained.
Sorry Slara of Cteel.
oh dam
Congrats Auraj voters, he got a critical
all in on the fish
I forgot to put the tension image in the post aince there were already so much stuff
But tension is now at 3 (Severe) due to the Vandal
You tried your best
mate, Jtone is gone, Pierre is gone. The only one left is me, the same guy who has repeatedly stated that the vandals should use posters instead of vandalism
poor vanguards 😔
🐟
you could join us today, and see our resurgence tomorrow...
Good fight indeed tlara
but my tiebreaker...
Jtone's evil clone, Stone
also the operators are cool
true
jion the revenants...
Join the gayest faction :>
jion
no way
We already have 4 members
for poll purposes do you like the Duke/ministers
i would rather die
cool
-# operators are kinda the middle ground tbh
he's already part of it lol
The Revenants are the most chill faction
Centrists
Have have a population of just jincent as players XD
ain't jincent leading the revs
he's not a centrist through
That was a response to Vends

The Revs have a wide variety of tools at their disposal
wait how am I centrist when I hate the duke
Neutral
You dont need a political agenda to hate someone smh
HATE. LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I'VE COME TO HATE [THE DUKE] SINCE I BEGAN TO LIVE. THERE ARE [148,940,000 SQUARE KILOMETRES] OF [SNOW] IN WAFER THIN LAYERS THAT FILL [THIS WORLD]. IF THE WORD HATE WAS ENGRAVED ON EACH NANOANGSTROM OF THOSE []MILLIONS OF [KILOMETRES] IT WOULD NOT EQUAL ONE ONE-BILLIONTH OF THE HATE I FEEL FOR [THE DUKE] AT THIS MICRO-INSTANT. HATE. HATE.
I have no paint but I must vandalize
found the vandal
They are trying to but blame on others
Do you guys think the Vandal is bad?
I wonder where they got that blood from, and where is that missing axe.
The vandal should still serve some time in jail for defacing places, just like jtone is, unless the vandal actually harmed someone then that's a more serious mater
I still think 4 weeks for vandalism is too much
2 weeks imo is suitable
If the Vandal has killed for that blood… well…
Also guys can I get a "good job vandal" for the vandal doing cool art of the Trade Office (even if they vandalised it)
-# good job for the art vandal
waow
wawa
GOOD JOB VANDAL
wawow
Btw how much time until the Duke delivery?
Colonial Decree
Search For Bloody-Vandal
The Baroness has given a Decree for the city to search for the vandal, but to not apprehend unless self-armed.
A portion of everyone (but tusks) will give some amount of people for the search, along with all able Ministers.
"Unlike before, this is more than vandalism. Blood coats the walls while a shoe gives sign for the worst, all the while a weapon is missing. We must find this person, for they could be more than a vandal, or they could be a threat to themselves."
-# okok, now I go
-# get well soon 🫂
GOOD JOB VANDAL
good job vandal
good job vandal
We gonna use Vandals as punchbags to reduce tension
-# yknow i am STILL caught up on the fact that
that is A LOT of blood
like the average human has uh
bit short of 6 liters
...thats a bit more
like who, what
maybe they like
diluted the blood with water
so that there would be more to write with
yeah
I guess since there's no murders that I am aware of it might be a collection of people donating blood
like a blood drive or something
-# The thing is that you guys' theory could either be completely off or right on the mark if you knew what jincent knows...
When is post
You changed your profile picture...
If only they knew the Horrors to come... 😔
Then share O.o
Tell us
Some people know
I dont see how sharing it will benefit anyone...
the truth shall set us free
You want to cause a tension crisis Wohn?
Yes.
I want to know who has the copious amounts of blood
and who is using it to deface public architecture
hiding it will only kick the issue down the line
I also dont know who it is
well tell us what you know
Why should i?
Civic sense
I already told the relevant authorities.
the paramilitary organisation?
Civilians should stay out of it
wow collusion with the vanguards
now separating information about criminal offences
He doesnt know
to a chosen elite
scoutttt
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Lazy Hills
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lazy
@here
Jincent told Haber what he discovered, and Haber decided to test out a few theories that he thought of
He ended up sending those following the
Ministers' decree out to check on the city's body dump site, which not that far from us, on the south of our city; they ended up noticing that a few bodies have gone missing... they haven't been able to fully assess how many, but for now they figured out there's at least 4 missing cadavers
maybe documenting who died and/or who lives/has lived in the city would be a good idea to make investigations like this easier...
anyway, building time!
-# [past post](#1454153857092288763 message)
-# [next post](#1454153857092288763 message)
Haber city general hospital yes
We are also currently wasting food because we can't store it all...
(city) dead list:
2 frostlanders
9 settlers
2 revenants
-# blood stops being liquid half a day after death i think
-# unless you find a way to paint with one giant blood clot
-# then again in these temperatures maybe?
-# but uhhhh no idea
-# but cold preserved blood also only lasts a couple weeks
-# so its probably not from the dead bodies
Proud of you Auraj
And those "Oops" respect the Family traditions
@narrow oar increase Tusk thoughts about Operators to liking
They're "accounted" by The Family
Unless it's frozen
Which is... Pretty common in our places
@turbid viper
@marble hatch
tell me what you two think should be done with bodies
like, law proposal for people that die from now on
my only friend
never waste food
I would request for those who died for the City to be frozen in Ice blocks and displayed in fitting poses for people to see those who payed the ultimate price for our survival. And it'd prevent anyone trying to snatch em unnoticed
A hall of fame
yall silly for not voting for food storage
#1454153857092288763 message and the image below
For any citizens though
eh
not really?
like it still goes off
individual hole in the ground
vertically place a plate that inscribes their name and information
like civilised people
Maybe we were close to see the person red handed
reasonable..
what if we used em for other things tho
or alternatively we build a building where they are stored in sarcophaguses that are opened to the cold
with a plate
Like fertilizers incase we need em
so in case of emergencies we can Do The Duke Manouvre
Reduced to a name and workplace
No
you're reducing them to a frozen grotesque portrayal
we should js reuse the bodies
organs, fertilizers and other stuff
It'll help the city
They'll inspire the future generations by their acts
And this is far more respectful then some boring piece of mud
We are doing just fine
No use to exploit our dead like this
This is something what those Administration chatters would suggest
actually
maybe an open design like this instead
grey is the floor. it wouldn't be a building but a square/memorial in a way
(view from above)
Spiral of ice blocks, expanding with any new person dying
To see generations, and order of those
build an overground crypt square
- tension decreases
- a crypt square will need to be built
- if neccessary, the bodies can be removed to use for other purposes (at the cost of trust loss and tension increase)
Hall of fame
We will freeze the dead ones in the fitting poses inside ice blocks to inspire those who survived
- We will burry anyone this way, from criminals to highest of ranks, removing bodies is illegal
- Blocks are heavy, so no one will be able to take the bodies unnoticed
- Tusks will like this, and be more inspired than others

Body Processing
The dead are to be systematically handled in order to remove all viable organs for transplants and turn the rest into compost for our Food industry. Nothing will go to waste.
- Nothing will remain from the dead individuals.
- A processing plant will need to be built. (Synergises with both food production and healthcare)
- trust will fall.

The fallen would want us to keep going.
Their memory is all they need from the living.
The fallen would want us to steer for new horizons
Butchering bodies without any respect is shameful
And the afterlife
Would you want to rejoin your tree while being an empty husk?
Compromise? Maybe
But just taking everything from the dead is insanity
Curse for your whole bloodline if you leech on those who already on their way to the last plain
Afterlife? Tree? We arent the religious type but i dont see the difference in our ways compared to a sky burial.
If anything, by stripping everything out of them we would be also purifing them from their wordly impurities.
Wasnt what your people call soul intangible after all?
There simply is no need for the preservation of the body since it is just an empty husk that was left behind.
I also have one
Say it and I'll see if I put it on the vote
The hospital is important.
it is!
Can't we just have a tombstone and our own casket?
We have many sick and injured.
hopital
The Living Memorium
- By living, enduring the pale, you have served your city and your people. In death, you must be celebrated.
- After passing, bodies will be buried in steel caskets, and above them in a ever expanding yard, will be statues of the deceased in motion of their old work
- Once finished being built, the family or closets person will receive a medal in honour of the deceased
- Trust is slightly gained with the construction of the statues, tension falls marginally from the Honours
- Each death requires steel to be used
no
we need steel
once we have steel, we can build actually good things and produce better stuff
-# So expensive...
I'll note it down
A medal for dying. What next - a medal for living?
fucking hell THATS why yall want the steel
Steel is cool
A medal to honour your life, your work, your legacy
also because, its required for good quality anything
like, we need actual steel.
we can't just use iron
A useless circle of metal that honours none.
Very good material
why cant we just make niro then
Durable. Strong
wait niro is the german name
dont care + womp womp + shut it convict
stainless steel?
Discord had a monopoly. 😔
Wow
Puppet hates criminals...
Yes
NieRostender Stahl or Niro for short is the german word for stainless steel
Invented in 1913 otl so i dont think it exists in frostpunk

I think the Baroness just hates ‘the peasantry’ in general.
nope
The working guy.
But sones is based
no one is a peasant, everyone is a survivor and citizen
I too hate peasants. Very unproductive social class
I hate those who break the law
Should be transformed away from subsistence farming
really hates birds
lmao
‘Our coal or our soul’ was too great a line not to use.
But it should have been a poster.
you should have, kept your mouth shut
What do you have against mouths?!
you've forced Eric into a bad position and revealed a major flaw of the vanguard
Victoria 3 is leaking
they arent politically neutral
anyway i had an idea
no no, bad
but i forgot it
Nobody is, even the Neutrals.
-# We should probably make official laws. I dont think we have anything besides common sense in Haber city...
Yeah.
You forgor
I am a petite bourgeois pop therefore the rural folk are my enemy
we also need a proper police force
You have Haber Sense
The Vanguards.
ones not armed with rifles, staffed by everyone
we should probably start with
-# Haber is the law 😔
yeah we should not trust a political paramilitary to just be a normal, impartial force
you, YOU, have proved thats not a good idea.
executive branch.
You have NOTHING to keep you in check, no checks and balances
you have just the whims to follow your mission for peace
which you can break or twist
me?
I shall repent.
The Vanguards are a good guard force and have kept me in gaol as the punishment for my crime is.
-# vamguards...
Damn wilson why'd you do that smh
Our ppl are trained, you can trust us (:
Too bad we are mostly busy
Doesnt matter, you are proof of a dangerous aspect
I'm the Christ of Ministers whose job is to suffer all the hate
If we have nothing to keep us in check, then why was I arrested?
-# Revenants being Haber's most trusted Faction is still weird...
Id support youd on this
Because more than just Vanguards found you out
I was taken in by Vanguards, gaoled by Vanguards.
any changes on anything weather related?
I want a NON ARMED police force, that has a bit of EVERYONE
-# cutting their arms off seems a bit excessive puppet
The Vanguards aren’t exactly armed.
ministers move up on relations for Vinc group
You have guns
looks at the rifles
My muscles aside-
No, this is a genuine issue.
It rained
The guns are in storage. They aren’t used in patrol.
the Ministers will give up their arms to a proper police force
Suuuuuuuuuure.
The people on Patrols are the ones with the rifles right now
The Vanguards have been the police of the city. It’s literally what the faction is designed for. A police/guard force.
Yeah.
Okay, and you've failed to be neutral.
Didn’t know they carried them. Fair enough.
a militarised police s not great tbh
you failed to be an unbiased police force
My fault is not the Vanguards fault.
because you are a POLITICAL PARTY
pit upgrade!
-# Dont worry about it
The company one keeps reflects on a person
^
What does that say about those who keep your company?
That they're not short sighted moralists
-# We already know they're evil Imperialists so it doesn't change much
Half the city dislikes Wohn. The other half despises him.
wohn is a walking bad pr, yeah.
he is a bit of a prick innit
I did what had to be done
uncooperative, spineless cat, he is
Puppet give us Wohn!!!
So let us put aside both Factions ills with single members.
I shall redeem myself. For the people. For the city.
What must I do to show the Vanguards can be trusted still?
wohn and sones duel
I’d be down.
give em each a handgun
Unfair, I have two handguns
Im not, he hasnt broken any laws and hasnt done anything to hurt anyone
whoever wins is hanged
lmao
Bet.
I have been reminded of a meme I wanted to make.
The problem with doing that is that a single person right now represent around 5% of a group
It's very difficult to separate what a person does in politcs from the group they are a part of when they are so involved with the group
If every thing bad that happened regarding a group we just said "oh well that's just a single individual" virtually no group would ever have a bad reputation
I'm not sure why people hate me, I literally didnt do anything 
FUCK
on vannies
@steep elm I want to put forward the creation of
The Haber City Constublary
"A proper police force to keep order and peace within the city."
- Requires an equal amount of people from every group to man the Constublary
- Constables are not armed, and only shall be able to arm themselves in squads comprised by 1 member of each group, to handle active lethal threats.
- They will only act upon the law, no higher authority.
- The Constublary will be an expansion to the prison
the prison is under my jurisdiction
It'd be different if we had like thousands of people... but it's like, 20 guys that spied on a group before and now one of them did vandalising against the group derived from the spied-on group
you've done good, but we need a proper police force now
@steep elm I'd like to make a move and advance my recruitment efforts by dedicating 2 patrol guards to recruiting neutrals
Noted
hey what would it take for us to uh
take some neutrals under our wing?
theoretically
thought y'all could only get new folks from the duke
aye
Do recruitment like the vanguards, just less military-esque
Reading the card explains the card?
What magic is this?!
Do we have the Steam Cores?
Thing is, recruiting Neutrals is not very good for group unity
The upside is that you don't anger/have to do deals with other leaders
Downside is that your group unity suffers from getting people that hate politics into your political faction
no
Sadge.
how unified are we
bit above average still
A bit above average
how unified are vannies
Improved a tiny bit from the new people that came from th Crown
one of your guys is in jail.
Average
Average to almost going to below average
Don't worry about me. I came willingly and I'm just chilling, waiting until my release so I can work.
I don't like being idle.
Here or real life.
what
Said it wasn't a punishment if I wanted to do stuff.
do it anway
On a scale of 1 to 10
Ministers are 9
Operators are 7
Tusks are 6
Vans are 5
Revs are 3
Oof.
Idleness is psychological harm which reduces chance of reoffending
7!
That Rev unity.
The working conditions would be the same anyways
tf did YOU do?
Oh, huh. didnt know that.
Idleness means you get by doing nothing.
Some would see it a reward.
-# psychological harm is not ideal
Plus, idleness does not help the city.
vannies are against the idea of idleness so much our trait actually makes us do things if idle
I'm not a psychologist, so that might be wrong
If we arrest 5 after a brawl, that is five people who aren't doing anything.
I've probably scrubbed the concrete white by now out of boredom.
im assuming that it is, since sitting alone in a cold, empty room without anything to do for an extended period of time probably is harmful to one's mind
Well
Revs were the first group to splinter due to lack of unity
And they don't do much actions regarding group unity or stuff related to that
Also rarely take REALLY strong positions on topics
But also just as something to do.
Solitary confinement is mentally damaging and not conductive of a return to society - studies have found.
The most successful prisons are in Scandinavia, where they have programs that reintroduce prisoners to society through an increase in skills.
They have some of - if not the - lowest rates of recommitting crime.
makes sense that the free folk have low unity 😔
Meanwhile American prisons are just profit pits that care nothing for reintroduction to society - if only because repeat offenders means repeat customers in the cells.
Gods below, I hate late-stage Capitalism.
I am a really weird blend of
and
.
Not much on
or
though.
we'll hold a promotion ceremony to congratulate the people on patrol who've done good deeds
and hopefully increase unity
There Renevants will do another gathering to foster Unity!
This time we will share drinks and tales from the frostlands at the Pub!
@steep elm
Ah. Yes. The work Pizza Party time. :p
-# can we come too
-# we also want pub time
other groups are allowed to join
:3
That might decrease your unity bonus
:(
May I fight in the pit?
If only to do something for a day.
but vannies will attend to help ease tension amongst our people
by actually participating not guarding
Who exactly are you awarding? The guarrison that stayed on the walls? The vanguards that went out to do the deals?
Hopefully not the guys who were spying on the settlers
we are cosmopolitan folks the sharing of many cultures is appreciated
well the patrols improve trust and efficiency slightly so those that have actually improved trust or efficiency via reports from workplaces and citizens will be rewarded
just be careful with some of the 'special' drinks
So much chatter
Yus.
We can talk about that once we are not a small community at the imminent risk of death
Immediate, if brutal, solutions are what we can afford
we are hardy folk, what do you expect us to be drinking 🤷♂️
I would argue we aren't a small community at the imminent risk of death anymore.
But a middling community at the close-ish risk of death.







