#š§Frost Mini - Haber City
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i stand for the paper and kneel for the pen
shit who is doin this
One single match stick can make more usage of this paperwork
That one law amendment that causes 5 more issues
your pit fighters could also do something useful instead but here we are
-# ah yes, the old "trying to fix a leaky bucket by taping more leaky buckets to it"
-# never fails
The pit is essential for all Frostland exploration efforts
-# (sarcasm)
then we should reorganise our scouting system to not depend on some full-time fighting bums
do you want more rebels
thats how you get more rebels
they are like ants.
god forbid a man wants to have a productive economy
at some point they are gonna be in your apartment, in your car
Ants?
i lost the track
Maybe we could do a more indepth survey of the law after it's been scouted to make sure that there isn't anything that wants found
are you proposing some kind of scout meatgrinder law?
no i just prefer we'd make it an actual organised force instead of some tribal warrior-esque entity
-# well it wouldnt be "tribal" if SOMEONE made any rifles.
what do rifles have to do with this
you are complaining about the quality of our army
while being responsible
for not making weapons.
army?
for our army.
organisation wont make people stronger and better prepared to face the harshness of the frostlands.
We already bleed for this damn City
Have complains ā we can settle them in the Pit
defensive
no one said anything about the manufactured guns being for scouts
If you try to reform the whole city far too much, you are going to start having issues with people getting upset with all the changes Minister's
Militia?
you see we're not like you
militia is more of a term for a supplementary civilian force
And thats a good thing who would want to be like you?
what do you guys do to make complains?
home guard perhaps
anyway i forgot JURAJ HIIIII
fill a form?
HI :D
:D
well we dont fight each other in a hole in the ground
Auraj
HI
Goodbye people
Hi :3
good night haber
Bye haber
so you prefer to keep your issues around instead of facing them?
:3
:3
:3
If you want to change the city snd shape it, you have to atleast get a lay of the land of what the people are willing to reform compared to what they aren't willing to reform
:3
:3
Yes we follow the traditional practice of 'it is what is is'
Anyway you needed something?
:3
Once a Cog, always a Cog...
stiff upper lip and allat
Nope
Ok :]
rigged?
-# It's one in the afternoon
good night
-# i keep forgetting if you are 4h + or -
good night haber, have a great lunch
Trade Office has 6 votes when accounting for the minister double votes well Coal Mine has 5
Dunes has 6 but Wastes has 7
You can't even imagine how right you are at this one
First time in his life lol
There will never be a first time in his life he won't be licking the boots if someone more powerful than he is
Tusks have dignity
Administrators are just a bunch of weaklings who would die in a day or two without City's help
They were already running on "fumes"
Once they'll start to feel hunger, we will watch how fast their paperwork will shift
A bunch of pen pushers they are
Much much more than us Operators because at least we do actual jobs and not just push paper work
We can survive without them
City is just a camp, one of thousands in those white plains
Ye :]
And Puppet will likely vote for the Trade Office which ads another +2 so it'll be 8
Operators haven't done anything yet. Family is higher priority
We haven't had the opertunity to do our purpose yet because we only have a single core, and no cores being used
And yet you count to pump out resources from nearest place instead of expeditions
Put the core to use then
And it's time to demand to our "Duke" to produce some
We currently have no "research" for them inside of the city, plus the problem with that is we still fall under the votes of the Ministers for what we are even able to do
I don't remember the Duke's part of the deal also mentioning that he must produce cores
I don't either
because it wasnt part of the deal
Exactly
We'll probably need to produce or scavenge our own cores.
...
But as we aren't the "dukes" men we aren't as privy to the information of the deal an stuff
Once the expeditions will stop we will see how you will start speaking
The Baroness knows all
The Baroness sees all
Better sleep with eyes wide open, Winston
And we are simply the engineer's that were promised to the city and not the Dukes 'minions'
I won't concern myself with such lowly threats, Tarry
i think only 3 of you are
the rest are settlers than changed factions
Who even is considered officially the Duke's men
As in those the Duke can consider his own, not through title only
Point still stands
idk
After you abandoned them for your Duke boot licking
Ministers are considered his direct employees
And technically everyone in Haber City is a Cornish citizen
Haber, while you're alive
Only Puppet has the vote considered as two?
No
But who would the city consider the dukes?
Every minister
A
Idk, you guys decide among yourself
You are the city
Haber himself considers both the Operators and Ministers to be Duke's people
Will we get hanged if the Duke ever leaves us
For now Vanguards feel the same way
But we currently view Operators as cool people
Since they can make out city better
actually better
Operators form what we've talked about consider the relationship with the duke as "complicated"
The talk is over.
Glad you can see some reason with the cards we've been delt with in these interesting times
We are simple people. We know you can do wonders. You do them? We will make sure you are safe and well
Operators and Administration
Same Settlers but in different shell, filtered even
Well Settleres were all combined and some of them were pretty loud
Some of the settlers came to us after their collapse, but we are teaching them the ways of our technologies and knowledge
There is little we can do about their past being a fairly hated group
We will see if your spines worth any weight to be put on them
I don't think you have to
This is a fresh start
And we hope we will have some cooperation between each other
Yea there'll be cooperation
hi yall im back
Fresh start for a Pit of blood
Administrators haven't repayed for souls they took.
what did i miss
Our (the engineers specifically) have a "complicated" to say the least about our terms with the duke, but are here with a purpose and will help the city with such
Yes
We will see if you worth our expedition efforts
oki dam
Only time will tell tarry
tell tarry what
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At least we won't be as useless as the Ministers
Is that even possible for a Faction?
Hi :]
Time is such a valuable resource
The Ministers are pen pushers, here to deliver a punishment of the duke
Except they can't even double-build. smh
They certainly push pens. Probably the only thing they can do.
How are we useless
You took our double building from us!
What did yall do since you arrived?
We need an office to actually do something I think
we fore
Which from what I can see, you're very much against
Im just prepering for the quotes
What quotes
we dont have people to man the mine with
The coal quote.
The coal?
Oh, QUOTA
And it's an opportune moment for Vanguards to recruit
Since there's now neutral people in the City
We've been asked to provide Coal to the Duke.
People that came from our Faction, too.
Given they weren't happy with us negotiating.
We have bunch of ministers standing around
Yup
which will be needed to man the office
to actually deliver the quota
Haven't said anything about why they wouldn't rejoin you with others
1 in 3 ministers are being useful.
Lmao
sitting around demanding pics of spiderman
which we probably need to find out the actual quota amount...
otherwise we're going in blind
Foremen, the Alleyes prophecy is true
They'd be effective working in a pub since it's an Administration job too
"qe watch to make sure you do your job"
Coordinate everyone
Yet shatter like glass from some snow
Last turn, the Ministers had over 500% more not-working than other factions not working
2/11 were from other factions.
Ministers were just formed bro
Maintenance
Aftermen are staff which make sure stuff will work well with new shift
So were the Operators.
What's your next lame excuse?
26 of our people weren't the engineers promised
waow...
The Operators were sent here with an already defined purpose and tools
And the knowledge
We ministers need the office, you know
The Operators recruited from the people, same as you.
we have
Then build us a second building!
And fewer numbers and simply no other provisions besides "we give you better cores tech"
We need the coal mines to work and to fulfil the quotas.
Ah yes, those people suddenly having the information of the better cores transfered in their brains
Checks out.
How is it our fault there is no second building
They can Administrate from snow pile
not complaining about the mines
Hey we are teaching the others
You took away the Settlers who were building two buildings a turn.
Idk lol
Can I have the statement that says it's DIRECTLY our fault they got disbanded
And not the Duke's
The leader abandoning them?
the leader is one of you now.
So, it's Wohn's fault
Sure.
It is DIRECTLY your fault they got disbanded.
The statement, not your own words which could be made up
That was a statement.
And Wohn is a member of your group, giving you proxy fault in the eyes of the citizens
I stated it.
We have only one factory which cannot be overclocked due only settlers being allowed to it
The SCREENSHOT
or message link
where it's stated
woah woah woah the sentence that said i joined the ministers was after the one saying the settlers got dissolved
tbf we specifically have the settlers that DONT like wohn anymore
Still could mean you abandoned them
The Settlers were dissolved into you.
Yet we haven't slaughtered Wohn for his ignorance before
Vanguards better start to watch after what those whimbags produce on factory
i dont think i can, actually
They'e been dissolved, we didn't do nothing to influence that
You existed.
unstated
And now that's my problem.
whimbags is a new word to me
also we can only make what the orange ones let us.
It's more effective with only Settlers working, but still
our hands are bloody tied.
We'll have to ask haber himself
So, we're now evil for purely existing?
Wohn didnt care for the settlers, he just followed the Duke's orders.
@bitter glacier
There's no more settler's so we'll have to see
no orders were received
i did it for the love of the game
No spine to survive in the Frostlands
Yea we took the angry at Wohn guys!
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Everyone should be angry at Wohn and 'his guys'.
sure you didn't... and you clearly didn't hand our city to the duke in a silver platter too...
We should "eat" Wohn by throwing him into the pit
Anyone who will get near Tusks will be taken for agressor
So much hate for Wohn
beatings will improve morale!
i'll be vindicated once the duketopia is established
Exactly!
or maybe not
Ew
"duketopia" is
Thankfully, there are āØāØdevious actsā©ā© that are allowed in our city...
real bloody creative
we could have had at least a better deal if we had prepared better
so who knows
dutopia
You should prevent them, no?
Doesn't seem fair for ye to patrool our actions and do nothing about Administration tinkering their stuff
I await that day
this sounds worse
Distopia?
We are NOT renaming the city to Duke City.
My deal wouldn't be appreciated by anyone
We are preventing them.
And we will hold everyone acountable once the bad thing is done
yeah becuase it'd result in violence
Correct... We're renaming it to New Duketown
This is Haber City. I would have thought you'd want to keep it that was as a disgusting Traditionalist.
the end
maybe it would, we will never know now š
no one is proposing that
except winston
lynch him
who is an outlier
/j
Lynch him and then lunch the rest.
We mean no hard to the Tusks we are simply here to fulfill our task given by the deal that was made
liesel
Yes?
LMAO THAT ESCALTED QUICKLY
Give us an Scapegoat!!!
who
still it was a joke we are not lynching anyone
nows not the time
as of now
Just two of your people joining mine
In a way
we know harry values actions over words, this is going nowhere
give it a couple weeks maybe
but bugging the guy to like us is gonna lead nowhere
From the maws of the Frost we reap
yea sure man
Nothing is achievable without efforts
Not much we could really do in the first place yet, our mainly task doesn't have much to do currently
staying with helping the quota for now should be enough...
anyhow
i was wondering if we could get 3 factory blokes to do smth else
idk if researching is an option we can do
yknow
to use that core
No clue
Oof
Rest well
Rest well
most groups lost members
Our numbers exploded the moment we existed 
Yeah yall are the highest members number
Yea
The actual process was
Settlers was a temporary label - how Haber City saw them as coming from a Settlement
Now that they acquired much more power, we see them in a more nuanced way, divided into the two groups we see now
The Settlers themselves "chose" to split, as the identity they were given didn't make sense once the Duke got here and they haven't been in a settlement for months by now
Wohn would only become a Minister after the settlers didn't identify themselves as people that dwelled in settlements, choosing to go to the Ministers as that's what fit him more as a Cornish Citizen, which we all are now
tldr the label became outdated since "settlers" was our only contact with Cornwall, but now we are a part of Cornwall
Amazing
"pen pushers"
is a horrid simplification for us. heavy mathematics, statistics, logistical oversight- We do just as much as you, we have our specialty just like anyone else and ours is able to improve the lives for all.
-# this was a horrible ping to show up in my notifs as a partial message
"Haber City, Colony of the Empire"
We really do need to inspect the vandalism.
Indeed would be wise
Saying that both as Baroness but also a logical person, hate will fall upon both Ministers and Operators lest we do something
we should promote graffiti as it may be a safe and fun way to blow off steam after a 22 hhour shift in the coal mines
We could establish a means of recreation, but vandalism is still an illegal act
As an engineer I would say it is also wise to avoid unnecessary actions towards groups in general
who is the vanguard leader/members?
Nric is their leader if I recall
The sight of grafitti will encourage further unorderly behaviour
Another, proper channel for recreation is necessary
@bitter glacier
The Ministers would like to hold a joint operation of finding who is causing these vandalism
That can be arranged
What punishment and the likes, entirely up to the people, a vote
I think the automatic punishment for any crime is prison as was established by a previous vote
Oh? I see
In that case, we need to understand the pattern. First it was the Generator, next one was the wall
Law is law, so no chance of changing that
The other available options were exile, execution (yes, for everything) and no punishment so it was an obvious outcome
Reintegration
Criminals shall be imprisoned to be later reintegrated. Nothing can go wrong.
- +Trust will Slightly increase.
- Requires Prison.
- -3 Vanguards are needed per every 10 prisoners.
Gotcha
There are also a pattern
1 vanguard for 1-3 prisoners
2 vanguards for 4-6
3 vans for 7-10
Due to messages we believe it could be either a place of residence of the Ministers/Operators or, most likely, trade centre.
Which means it will appear sooner or later once the trade center is done
Hmm, noted
The trade office is crucial for the city, once it is up and running, we can quickly begin expanding the city industry and logistical capabilities
we should make a spa in the frostland. the only thing should be an ice bath.
I remember the Vanguards promising to help advance the Frostland exploration efforts
The Ministers would be a great boon to exploration
Yet they are voting for the coal mines...
Mines you cant even staff
We've no manpower for them
Exactly
Having a place which still can be utilized when needed will still help us a lot in a long run
As for that - could you please inform me more about it?
Eueuee himself made the promise
I just remembered... the promise i got for allowing vanguard recruitment is void now...
a shame
to free up workforce let's make 1 person do the job of 15 people
Indeed
Senseless overworking of a single person?
barbaric.
Not barbaric, just dumb
To increase resource production lets mine 15 coal from 1
nothing is dumb with enough stimulants that we totally have 100%
... wtf is a stimulant
With the proper support a apex worker could pull it of.
drugs that increase focus and how long someone can work
another coal mine would be cool
Thats actually amazing
optimizing would be aiding everyone
Tony.
My fellow Texan
who do you lean to?
This could be interesting or very bad depending on what the answer is
You do not want to know the answer, Puppet.
...Tusk?
ttony is a house
Oh yes
with hhis own unofficial house faction
I belive neutral but radical against-duke
Landlord faction
@open pewter
The duke and ministers shall ensure the colony to grow exponentially and focus on well designed and rapid construction of housing.
You should join us, and become the architect of a new Victorian city
Tony seeing who pinged him rn XD
we'll consider
we have a lot on our hands so no promises rn
We can aid in logistical planning for the vanguards, perhaps lower the cost of heavier acts.
You do wish to see law and order upheld, and consent to the act of aiding of a search?
Minister of Housing and Homeless could be your title, the man who shall ensure no person is unhoused
Look to what we've already proposed, housing more spacious and homely than what this city has. Our very first act was to improve homes.
Rapid construction
One building per turn
Make it make sense.
Don't worry, we will.
Come back when you donāt have 500% of the rest of the cities unemployment.
we already have the bunker no need for more housing, just upgrade the existing ones
By upgrading the existing ones, we expand them of course
We should figure out what our single core should be used for, to upgrade something about the city
Mining coal.
Resources⦠like coal.
Everything is low.
But we do require Iron for housing now.
besides coal, this city already has a heavy coal industry
and can be expanded without it
but steel is what is truly needed now
More materials ensures greater buildings and more of them
I would say Steel and Food should be our agenda for the next few weeks
Food will be fine
all resources but food basically
More food so we can leave rations would be nice.
-# The rationing will never end 
Or more food for a population boom.
Oh rationing is in effect?
Yes
since forever
Then we shall change that, the moment the office is open
The leaders wanted it to be activated before the whiteout started
I see
So it's been some 15 weeks or so
Without rationing, the city goes into the red?
In total, we probably have been more time with rationing than without it
Damn
No, it's barely enough
We need to upgrade our hothouses and, perhaps, make another one.
To alleviate the issue
The issue will be solved with the Office
The problem with expanding it is our workforce is stretched nearly thin
rationing can be turned off soon, and the core can be used for steel
"Just toughen it out lmao"
Workforce and food will not be an issue
we need workfrorce and food
Indeed
Good thing we are building the Trade Office
turn on the beacon
if we increase our workforce without the rationing active we will have a defict
But the resources to build places, both home and work, is in dire need of a boost
true
Yeah... good thing... right...
Indeed.
we could build another automaton
So true!
we could turn people into automatons with drugs!
Hm, but no...
A core based steelworks, a foundry could do wonders
and, the operators should further increase its effectiveness
This would be a good idea
no, we'll just worship it again
Its more effective and efficient to not build an automaton
We could do that, which will help our iron industry output
then we could focus on more important tasks, like exploring the frostlands. A few adapted species would do wonders for our food production.
which would allow for better homes, and increase the chance of building more per turn
employ the automaton into the coal mines b ecause of the upcoming quota
and, would mean we have the resources to build more workplaces
imagine the breakthroughts in medicine too!
we have 1
(What we have currently are iron mines)
But you can try and make a Steelworks for higher quality material rather than the iron we've defaulted to
That would also be beneficial to find more cores out there so we can get even more efficiency
btw didn't we have a mine that was understaffed?
I see
Give me some time to think about it.
(Answer to your other question)
My leaning to all of the factions are mainly neutral except the duke. I cannot work for someone who wants to steal our resources, and possibly use us as tools to some secret project of his.
-# I am not very fond of his occupation of this city.
hi
Sup
The Iron mine is fully staffed now, since Haber reorganised stuff
would it cost a core?
Hi Back, im Jincent!
If you want to make a basic steelworks, no
I see
Im very paranoid about the duke.
I promise you, the duke only wants to ensure the colony to thrive
Whats the most likely thing that should need a core the quickest, that will give us the best benefit haber?
Are we allies?
Or slave and master?
Colonies are meant to be exploited...
Probably depends on your point of view and where you stand
It's funny how out of "vassal" we became a "colony"
Yep.
because of the deal our city made, our prosperity means more taxes for the duke.
Vassal is a dirtier and harsher term
Will we have to work harder to be comfortable? And when we get comfortable will we have to work even harder?
Of course not
Protectorate would be a less harsh term for 'vassal'
-# vase...
Admittedly it should be far easier to become comfortable now
-# Oh god please no
why are we sugarcoating our forceful subjugation?
-# a protectorate implies self-governing
Not necessarily
(fixed)
And how is that? A vassal is some one who reports to the lord, someone who has a person above who reports to higher authority, yet still has rule over his lands
They don't fully control our internal operations, just our external ones
Im not
. But I want some sense of
.
A colony? It's an establishment that ment to control everything in order to extract the resources or other goods
Hm, ive seen Vassal used in far harsher terms and the likes
We went from
dictatorship with a possibility of democracy depending on the dictator's whims
To
dictatorship with an enforced flawed democracy
we should incite a robot uprising
Idk why folks think haber is a nice guy... smh
I'd rather make a public announcement for the vandals to use posters instead of vandalization before we start hunting people down
untrue, colonies can also simply be the pioneering and expansion of an empire or country
I do believe that technically Haber City falls more in line with a colony true of the british empire, a local government and democracy that is overseen and protected by the homeland
Then you, unfortunately, have seen the worst of how people can stigmatize a word
Outposts seems like we'd be living to harshly for what we are given
do we have a legal system haber?
Colony can range from the classic "work em till they bleed" to a genuine attempt of long distance expansion
A "vassal state" is probably what Puppet is thinking of as more related to the word "vassal", instead of a simple "vassal"
If we dont, we must make one.
Ah, yes.
Vassal state is exactly what I was thinking
good because i wanna serve every duke supporter a restraining order
-# i am totally thinking of the wrong type of long distance relationship
Haber X Duke?
how the notso mighty will never become mighty

In that case we will see how things will go out. Maybe we can work things out after all.
Though people have proven their worth here a long time ago. I belive your time will come soon
cant wait to see Haber relations to a faction fall
clara, and or liesel. will you draw this?
pretty pwease
Oh yeah
Until haber city is recognized a mutual, I cant see myself working as a minister for now
I cant draw people and I don't think haber is a furry so im screwed on this
I forgot to tell clara a piece of information
Yo Haber, you got a fursona?
No
FR demands more ships
I know what haber is gonna write into either cannon here or in FR later XD
It really does tbh
Liesel Fischer got stabbed 28 times in Polaris' council hall
romcom drama goes crazy
A mysterious novella starts spreading around Haber city, about a hearth throbbing forbidden romance between 2 leaders.
one of the people shows it to Haber himself, he find this very displeasing as he sees the two people who it is about
Lmao no way there's an entire wikipedia section about this
And this is why gay people are forbidden in Haber city.
-# not if i have anything to say abt that
-# that reminds me of s fact that I need to force George to rp another gay scene in Polaris with me, but later
-# gay couple rp vs intimidating robbery rp
-# still rocks
-# the lesbians well make sure gay people always exist XD
im finally doing faction sheets now
Hooray!
Lol
pinworthy imo
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linklink
A vassal or liege subject is a person regarded as having a mutual obligation to a lord or monarch, in the context of the feudal system in medieval Europe and elsewhere. While the subordinate party is called a vassal, the dominant party is called a suzerain. The rights and obligations of a vassal are called vassalage, while the rights and obligat...
It's not that big of an explanation
But also not that very useful imo
Well, that being said, I'm off to sleep. My shift is over for this day, and @bitter glacier shift starts until I wake up
Good night, Haber city. Rest well.
How about in taking one on

and now
the weather.
oh BTW
abilities with their Group Colour as name backrounds are ACTIVE, grey ones are PASSIVE
I think Lion's Pride and Britannian descendants is not correct
huh
FUCK i forgot to
AUFGH
i fucked up here is the better one
this has been
the weather.
Thank you for the weather
:3
hmm
puppet has a point
the zeitgeists dont have to follow the FP2 formula
my people are technically free folk
bit too crunchy for mobile
its fine on pc
also Dominion is now Pioneerage
WHY DOES IT LOOK LIKE THAT ON MPBILE
forgor to dm you
"but also" is repeated for decree on the norm text at the top
too wide
not sure i understand
Active Abilities
Colonial Decree
Decrees are small temporary actions that not only the Ministers do readily but also
but also pulls a small amount from other groups to aid
oh
is how it currently goes
oop
and yeah, too wide of a screenshot
id move Britannia descendants beneath the quote
like, the right side column still, but just under the quote
fair
that should fix the screnshot
lol
valid
also the "this scales only within ministers" in the pride trait is a negative
right
So much Administration members
Do only I see where it goes, or others prefer their eyes closed
"Vassal of my vassal is not my vassal"
The Ministers are so great!
I wonder why the Tusks hate us
-# besides Auraj situation, of course
Imagine Administration causing something else aside from quota demands and Auraj situations
Haven't seen them doing anything except shoving corpses in their machines
Dont forget burning one dead member that they shot and one member alive in the engine of crown as "AN ACIDENT" as their baroness said
Before my own two eyes
And not to mention the countless other tusks that they took from the tusk cave
Maybe we will restore our avanpost to it's former glory
@steep elm is there any possible usage for Tusk caves?
Well, once he awakes
Two Tusks
Yet now Vanguards close eyes on it
No price was payed back
Unfortunetly so
I fear its gonna be more common then ever before since ministers are here
We will see
Family values stay with Tusks no matter what, we have our own laws they don't align with
Yet we are so far are avoided and neglected in this Town
Like we would care
Frostlands gave us way more
They already have weight of 8 votes
We need to strengthen up to get rid of City problems
Indeed but that will take some time
Tusks' demands increase
We'll see if nric will do something
He's a relative of the Family, after all
Indeed
wait, 8?
isnt harrison still neutral?
it would just be 7 then
with 8 for the coal mine
and 3 for yall
You fed two of their guys into the Crownās engine. One of which was still alive.
(in reply to this)
-# also yeah that is pretty messed up ngl
-# Oh really?
-# Im just salty form the whole situation because their baroness named it an acident
-# ah yeah that sucks
-# Justice4Tusks!!
Daily reminder!
Vandalism is not a free speech. You want to express your opinion? Feel free to do that in a non-destructive way!
-# Not to mention all other countless bodys they used as fuel from the tusk cave
2 for 1
I can express it on someone's face
Drawing on walls is for whimps
I say!
In a pit :]
That would be battery, which will end you in prison
Unless it's in a pit
i mean our last sparring was fun
Lets invite baroness into the pit
You can try
Indeed... simpler times
Ah too bad that times are over
A coin flip will be used to determine what to do...
Harrison...
i saw the error of my ways
Harrison
The duke is a ceremony man
Do you prefer to not have enough coal but have the cool little office to appease him
Or not have enough coal and not have built the office
he has a sense for dramatics for sure
We lose either way. Might as well stay warm whilst we do.
We are not going to be using that coal mine to keep us warm since we don't even have enough people to put in there
And putting bureaucrats in a coal mine is not the way to go
Just, trust Haber on this one
We can't, right out of the gate, start deprioritising the duke
There
This is New Cornwall, Over
Now it's 7-9
Hmm?
They keep biting each other but we actualy need a new scout post to search for everything we lack
People, resources
Those damn steamcores
And it requires less personal then a coal mine
Right now we have no spare people
It's the same if we don't count double shifts iirc
Well
Coal mine won't provide us with anything except coal
And whether we want or not, soon other problems may become more pronounced
And we will have to shut down other buildings to rebalance
In either way, who are going to work on said mine? I thought we were going to make use of the steamcore we have
Second automaton will be less efficient then a brigade of workers and consume some coal, do I remember it right?
The reason why an automaton was very useful befoe is because our iron mines can cause sickness, so having non-humans there is better
A new one is a different discussion though
Will it be different from the one Iron mine have?
Secret, we'll see
A lot has changed after all
I see
Though I still think we need stronger expedition support, since we are starting to run out of nearby locations
Maybe finally make use of this pile of metal parked near our City
I see
1 week remaining
I wish
We need an office, just like scouts need a logistics district
I donāt see you blaming the Operators for that too, only the Ministers
The Operators are the people that keep your machines running - not the ones feeding them people.
Savage.
How are we, the Ministers, even at fault here?
Because youāre people directly appointed by the Duke or the brown nosers that joined them.
Ministers weren't even close to the people that were interrogating the tusks
????
That was the Duke's Warden and some redcoats
Iām also mostly just mad at Wohn and taking it out on the group.
Wohn as a leader has failed
He is now but a member of another faction
He canāt do any harm now
ā¦thatās all?
Like you would give us a fair Log centre
well erm āļø š¤ he was actually the only one that has succeeded
Are we really at fault for your lack of a proper Logistics Centre? Also, I remember something about someone saying the office would buff the scouts
Not sure though
Wasn't me
I hear only lies coming out from ye
Same as Wohn
Wasnāt me either.
If weāre going by THAT definition, he wasnāt even a leader, but a lackey. The Duke has succeeded
š
Baroness I think said it, either that or Iām stupid and misremember
Itās all Wohnās fault.
The pit buffs the scouts
We should hang him by his bootstraps from the Radio Tower.
If Administration gonna take this camp we might build another
The pit is wasteful
Senseless deaths and injuries for what?
Probably
The Ministers are wasteful.
So many people who arenāt working.
Two turns in a row.
Just like the Settlers under Wohn.
smh
(Probably as in the baroness said it, not that you're stupid)
I think Winston mess up Outpost activities on Administration side
They were sent here with a purpose. Maybe help them make an office and they wonāt be so āwastefulā as yee claim
no one died there, what are you even going on about?
Lack of proof
But that's my thoughts and maybe something slipped my eye
Not yet
They could be mining.
Building twice.
Etc.
BUT NO
Lack of evidence
Can't see you working with steamcores
Lazy bastards.
Bro hates Wohn, but still is so obsessed about the Settlers
They can't
No available mining place
Exactly my issue with them.
You shouldnt expect others to be as weak as your people...
I wasnāt one of those engineers
Let the Neutrals and Operators have a break.
Iāll stop trolling now.
And Iām saying you should be realistic about your people. Humans are still humans, not polar bears
But in all seriousness, I am very unhappy with Wohn.
And how are we at fault for what heās done
The fact that he faced no punishment for blocking the factories astounds me.
We didnāt control what heās done before he joined the Ministers
You arenāt entirely. But you did hire him. Very controversial.
I would also like justice for the dead Tusks.
Your lack of willpower and training shows...
Hire him?
The Dukeās redcoats should answer for those crimes that they committed.
You accepted him into the Faction, yeah.
I imagine you pay him a wage of food and heat to do fuck all for you.
Thatās called hiring.
At least where Iām from.
Managers. All the same.

My ranking chart IRL.
No one gets paid in Haber City
Everyone gets the same stuff
What would they benefit me with if I donāt play on going to the harsh frostlands if I have a comfy warm house instead?
Food and warmth can be exchanged for goods and or services, no?
You get what Haber gives you
-# nvm, Haber said it
-# You guys thought haber was a good guy š
Iād like to ask Haber to out Wohn on half-rations.
Wait, Haber, is the Duke still here?
He leaves next week?
Oh.
Thatās
Terrible
Actually
Iām not trusting these brutes with respecting the law and not kill us
Cool axe :D
You gonna chop some wood with it?
Being ready for the worst is never a bad thing, your laxness will lead you to decadence and negligence.
The difference between you and me is youāre preparing for if the city falls. I make plans for when the city will grow
It really is a cool axe š¤
Habertron?
We will be ready for all situations, your prejudices lead you to that presumption.
Youāre wasting precious time and materials
Preparing for scenarios that might never happen
I could say the same to you...
-# should've killed the bastard
cheers for trying to toss us under the bus mate
We donāt have an office
Which one
Whatās a ābusā?
Is that sorcery?
yes
Unlike yall we dont kill pointlessly
Witch?
Big Universal Salmon
ā¦āyāallā as in who?
tv headed steam core witch yeah
Fish š¤¤
Does fire affect you?
resistant sorry
Awwwh ;(
The one witch that canāt be burned
Do yee float?
on water?
Then build one, im only hearing excuses from you.
Smh
Yes
im not made of wood
We will, but I want to say that youāll still be the ones complaining
Damn, uhhhhh
As in minsters
When did we kill ANYONE
Your leader did or atleast their lackeys by your leaders orders
Our leader is the Baroness
You are litteraly the one who started this argument 
-# (
)
I donāt remember her giving orders to kill anyone
yes exacly
Your leaders-leaders-lackeys.
-# Wait, I did?
Oh and the countless tusks?
-# Complained about the pit
The Baroness did none of that
That was mid conversation
Plus
The pit is wasteful
People getting injuries for nothing at all
Is she second in charge after duke?
I donāt know the hierarchy, but the Dukeās at fault here, not the Baroness
Wow he doesnt want to train our scouts
Scouts are acceptable
But pits are barbaric
So in short ypu are saying incrised scouting efficiency is wastefull?
And yall are still under duke
Youāre making people fight like animals in pits
Why? It kept tensions stable during the whiteout and no one was forced to join...
Give me exaple
We follow the Baroness, whoever she follows isnāt our issue
It is?
What do you mean example bro
The only fight I saw was between you and Ierre
How so?
And the added eficiency is a nice bonus
Exacly
Noone was beaten to death
We dont do those kinds of fight but your high and mighty baroness can be the first one
What about injuries
How about you fight a polar bear instead? Would be nice for a change
Mount the bearās head next to the Dukeās.
Iām sure the Duke would love a hat made out of polar bear fur
What a kind gift
When we fight we agree what the goal is, last and only time with me and pierre was only a friendly sparring because unlike yall spinless penpushers they have some dignity
Want to die in it?
I still don't get why you hate us
The Ministers
I'll pass
?
You can duel to:
- Satisfaction (a tap of blades)
- First Blood
- Surrender
- Substantial Injury
- Death
Is that where your own men died?
Ex. 4 were killed by the Dukeās men.
Because your leader is baroness and not to mention they called the 2 deaths as acident even tho the dukes people put a bullet through one of their heads and threw another one ALIVE into the crown engine
Oh wow, and again, you blame US for the crimes of another man
See how none of them refute it?
They canāt.
Again, you want to punish innocent people for the crimes of the guilty


