#š§Frost Mini - Haber City
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LET'S END THE WALL
defeatism
all houses dont need roofs

WALL
Your making too much sense Wohn
after the little inconvience can we build a house
And not guns
@dark marten @bitter glacier WALLS
Where are the promised guns
SOUTH WALL SWEEP
think about it.. their purpose is to keep order... what do they need for that purpose...
chaos
Wait
resentment
i didnt promise you anything
Couldnāt the wall, being rushed, have weak points or be built terribly?
They played us ...
No, the eye promised it to me 3000 years ago
KEEP THE INVADERS IN THE FROSTLANDS
The all-seeing eye
walls!
tell us the investigation results vanguard man
Tell us all!
how detrimental to resource production would it be if I took all remaining Vanguards and stationed them on the wall
how will you station them on the wall
i think its just a palisade
no walking room
cold
Canāt we build ladders
very cold
I mean we figured out how to put 10 people on it
Just adapt
All the walls will break next post
1/2 is just a palisade but worse
2/2 has walking space
awesome sauce
half of what I've been doing
tell us the investigation result
is trying to unite the people
Lookouts?
the anticipation is killing us
AHEM. CONSIDERING THE INVESTIGATION:
Unfortunately, we have decided to keep the information we gained as top secret as of now. Once we deal with curent crisis, we will give a public statement

the investigation so far hasn't given us any definitive proof of Catanian violence
They want to control us!
the mystery will hinder combat capability
-# But i feel Wohn wants to cause chaos
If we just say what we have found so far it will not give any answers to the main question

whos john
tell us. . . .,,,,
Jilson mb
Thus, the investigation is currently placed on hold
In order to put all of our forces on the more pressing issues
Such as, you know
Defending our city.
With which weapons?
Building one more house*
Once the crisis is abaited, we will resume the investigation AND explain what we have found so far
i tried to find a wise quote on the pursuit of truth being important but alas none was to be found
okay here's my official statement:
The guards I sent to the cave investigated and couldn't find any hard evidence of misdeeds. The investigation is currently on hold but has not concluded. Once the defence is over I will have my people look further into the incident at the cave, but it is currently not the priority of the Vanguards.
happy?
what did you find
Learn to fucking read
no hard evidence that the Catanians are guilty of violence
A pack of ciggies and a left leg
nothingburger
'no hard evidence' implies something was there
wow, they must've been rich
I promise once we are able to investigate further there will be an update on the situation but that's all I really have at this time
if there was nothing, how will you continue the investigation
we found a potential lead that can't be followed up on until after we are free from defending the city
nothing for certain
and what is that
Oh ?
can I take the 5 off the saw, 2 off coal, myself off institute, and one off stockpile guarding, for the wall
which takes the total amount of wall guards to 19
I'd also like to have the rest of the Vanguards ready to deploy to the wall at a moment's notice
-# What if the Conquest guy wasnāt evil, and we lost allat efficiency and materials for nothing š
very polite to give a 10 week notice
Yes, he seems kind
Yeah someone nice says my claim
Why would he do such evil shenanigans as⦠killing us?
Technically 4-3 weeks due witheout
We didnāt get the full sentence
Cut the man some slack
would he give us a delay broadcast if he ran into trouble š¤
how many shields were made
"SORRY
DELAYED BY 2 WEEKS DUE TO TRAFFIC"
5
im pretty certain it was the most we could make
My Claim is delayed
The waiting would kill me then
There is so many secrets yet to be unveiled
he could ragebait us
by saying more than it actually was
that wouldve been strategic
But Conquestās a partypooper, as Nric and his Vanguards are too
we took the 10 weeks as face value so it would've worked
WHERE is war
what?!
what have I done
I still think he wants to subjulgate us
Tell us what youāve found in that cave for real
Iām not buying that excuse
in hindsight we're very gullible
You are partypooper
Read the chat
It was stated already
I really don't want to be evil I promise
I donāt buy that
TF you mean "don't buy that"
You found something, and youāre hiding it from making the city spiral into more tension and chaos
Which is respectable but
the truth shall set ye free
Messa want the truth
we're already on the brink of tension boiling over and trust sitting at 0
there's nothing more to spiral from here other than societal collapse
yeah!
I mean the conquest guy
Exactly
how worse can it get!
The information being revealed WILL tear the city appart
and we don't need civil war during a regular war
Thatās why Iām not buying that
I see no reason it cannot be revealed to leadership figures
I feel like you put up a lie
If something happens, people need to be able to react
not just waiting around for some arbitrary schedule
Welp, at least we just have to
Tell the other factions
Wait for Conquest
and decide whether the public should now together
Settle everything with him
settle(r)
And then Nric will tell us more, or if he didnāt lie, investigate more
I believe in 5 different theories about the city, and NONE are good
Yes, but Wohn said that
Any radio signal
Can pick our beacon up
not just me
Or something
haber
thats also true
this is part of why i did not like that plan
with something vague on the horizion
3d
sick guitar riff
@steep elm is it possible to drill the city on attacks within the week that remains
like what to do during an attack
they'll get tired
can we make traps of some sort?
we already have walls right?
haver
haver
Whatās the hanging rock on the left btw
haver
cliff
Why arenāt we
steep plateau
is there anything we can collapse and cause an avalanch with?
Canāt the Conquestsā soldiers drop down or somethin or am I stupid
intercept them before they get here
also how will the negotiations look
good question
Question remains then
Canāt they set ropes and
its still high ground
Drop down
they'll break their legs
im worried
How high
no rope will be long enough for that
look would y'all just accept the plot armor and go along with your day
@steep elm how will we try to negotiate
then you guys can just
get shot by us
shoot them while they get down
dead
With what guns
the 6
Wohn refuses to make
guess I won't
how will they if they're coming down
Which donāt climb down
Others
I think Iām
Grasping at straws already
fair
you don't attack from the top of a mountain, you defend from the top of a mountain
But question remains
That entire zone can be
Used to throw explosives
Or something
A lot of stuff can be done from there
we are the ones defending, if they attack from the top we just have a huge advantage
And messa going to be gone now
once more considering we have no time to do anything other than finishing the wall why are we gonna try to poke holes in the plot armor we've been given
so now we wait once more
Last week to prepare
walls will be built and the war will begin
the Vanguards will stay true to their oath and die for the city
but we hope it doesn't come to that
best outcome is the negotiations work
would you look at that
Of cpurse they are evil
jonathan rejects the suggestion
atp he'd only be able to be half trained
to decrease discontent let's throw a beeg birthday party for josh the mailman :)
what mail
You need to know how to defend yourself when the negotiations start
we don't exactly have the resources or time...
are we sending haber there?
:(
thats a bit dangerous
What even is Haber doing right now?
maybe via a messenger would be more wise
-# Send Haber again
/j
wait actually I'll keep Nric in the back lines but still on defense
THIS CITY WILL BE PROTECTED
we will not fall
the first and basically only line
Cant wait to see what all that [Redacted] happening in the city was about
are you confident that these walls will be a big house
it will be
it has to be
5 rifles and a dream
and 5 shields
Also i like the harber collums witch imples there can be more of haber
@steep elm with the war around the corner can we have some kind of rally to lift the spirits of everyone in the city
-# is the 6th one called dream
well he has a son
Adopted ye
who's hosting it
vans
a good amount of people won't attend
because they don't trust you + you kept what you found out there secret
as long as it's not detrimental to morale we'll have the rally
"They don't trust us"
"Relationship went further up when people learned what we have done for the last few weeks"
we make up almost 1/4 of the city pop and we have good relations with the frosties too
you have done a lot of stuff but you hiding information and spying on people make them very careful around you
they know what you do for the city
but
as individuals, they don't trust you
still this
we'll do the rally
Today is the day we die gentlemen
This will be⦠a war for the world
A war of the world
A word of the warld
The wrold wlad
Itās been an honour.
Then let it be our finest moment!
welp
nothing left than to
PUT IT ALL ON RED
EITHER WE GO OUT WITH A BANG OR WE SURVIVE TO SEE ANOTHER DAY
Or we survive but in a worse manner then before
As unpaid labourers to these people
a bit eager for war now aren't we?
remember we picked negotiation
so before our first volley of projectiles let's send a sacrificial settler
ok?
where is that cat
the cat who sold the world
for real lmao
the orb demanded it š
The orb says no
or then throw in the orb
also who is more hated then their leader?
Lol
exacly
-# and we are the secret lesbian faction XD
an he is the reason why we have the conquest on our doorstep
Is it because of the orb?
Wohn? Where are you?
fire
In this weather?
generator fire
Ah
Jilson we have put explosives in the food your ppl ate, fight with everyone else or we will activate the trigger sequence./j
Jilson we have put a slow acting poison in the settlers food, only we know the antidote; Come fight with us or die a miserable death. /j
you're all paranoid
Tehres quite literary a conquest coming to us this day
Like i would trust you
its ok you dont need to
Yeah because your duke is coming to conquest us
we should like arrest wohn preemptively
do you have any more genius ideas to cripple the city
i do 
No no i agree
Hey could you arrest him? Maybe we can give him to duke for him to leave us alone
-# Preemptively execute the traitors š¤ (dont)
I mean, we have the guns, the military and the prison
Exacly
exactly right
or put them in penal labour
-# Dam Wohn really failed at politics huh
-# the orb wasn't the greatest political play
never interrupt your opponent when he is making a mistake
- napoleon bonaparte
im just not going to say anything
Are you counting on the Duke intervention? Even with the possibility that conquest isnt them?
they are actually advanced frostlanders
We want Haber to make an statement!
what if we preemptively arrest haber
He has been silent since forever
@steep elm any words to inspire us to fight better?
what has haber done for us
He was doing all the negotiations in the past
and all of them were successful
Every time a new community or a big group of people who came to the city Haber went to them to negotiate with them
To understand why they came and making sure they will not just here to plunder
wait what are we making the walls out of anyways
if its wood then we might be
in
a pickle
he held the vote for the strategy just a few weeks ago, what do you mean "forever" smh
wood and iron
around 50 50
we had a lot of iron stockpiled
so we used it for the more important stuff
-# 𤫠im just getting ppl rilled up
I think it's a good ratio
Enough wood for the structure and iron to make sure it sustainable
okay
in that case
we will be
taking you
into our hands
and then
nailing you
Stockade.
i will defend you from the attack
automaton friend
just use magnets
wait
Transformer
-# The lesbian legion is coming to help?
that-
that's
tha
THAT'S ALL WRONG
you are no lesbian you are lesbiaB*
guh damn learn to read /j
:3
:3
:3
Yus :3
building 1
12
14
1
south wall 1/2
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hardwood
building 2
12
14
1
south wall 1/2
1286339742392254577
hardwood
Wall!
calamity awaits
Yeah that you called upon us
wall....
Haber city
is
fortified
the west has one big wall
being the natural wall
plateau
Haber city is a prison...
Haber is typing
We cooked
they call me dr house in the way i be commiting medical malpractice
it's never lupus
the third impact is about to begin
pierre you better be right about haber city being one big house
or else i'll have you frozen with the fishies
you will be ice'd
wha
ahem
either way
The lesbians are coming XD
@bitter glacier @dark marten
That wpuldnt be that bad
Reporting for duty.
Lads its time

O7
i know what you promised
i'll cause damage to the wall if youre wrong
-# please remind me because I have forgoten
-# idk if it was you i'll find the message lmao
-# Imao okay
is this a threat
The bells of hell go ting-a-ling-a-ling, for you but not for me.
The little devils sing-a-ling-a-ling, for you but not for me.
Oh death where is thy sting-a-ling-a-ling, that gave thy victory.
The bells of hell go ting-a-ling-a-ling for you but not for me.
Lmao
New post: Nothing happens
tony is this a threat

@here
Week 45; 10:00
As the day started, everyone kept on their positions.
9 bows, 5 Spears and 4 Sabres were added to the city's weapons at the last minute, first two courtesy of the
Revenants and the last one coming from the
Settlers
A Vehicle slowly approached the city from the East; a giant tracked vehicle made out of metal, considerably smaller than a dreadnought... but a much bigger version of the Jewel
a person appears from the side of the vehicle, a small entourage of 5 people following him
They position a device on front of the vehicle, and one of the people in the entourage is thrown into the ground
"The Duke wishes to commence negotiations, I shall represent him for now. Any kind of aggressive behaviour will result in the death of our hostage; Auraj Jxolotl!"
...
after counting heads, it appears that we had 3 Tusks missing for some time.
we must choose who will conduct the first round of negotiations.
-# [past post](#1454153857092288763 message)
brother thats a landcruiser
I TOLD YALL
we have 6 rifles
read the post before doing anything agressive
Wohn⦠Wohn, what did you call upon us�
i told you he had technology
-# hey so guys im kinda lost which of these factions are what
. . .
let me speak to the duke
Okay maybe we should send our best negotiator instead of wohn
I TOLD YOU
@narrow oar
WOHN IS EVIL
Hes merit Wohn
i have experience
"OOOOOH our duke cant POSSIBLY be evil"
who is?
in a minute
Werent you defending him
perhaps
I was after he convinced me he was good
initially
I thought he was evil
And held onto that idea
this doesnt mean anything
HM I WONDER WHY
Its funny how i was right fromm the first mention of duke
he wishes to negotiate!
But thought that MAYBE, just MAYBE, it was a coincidence
Ah yes, Conquest wants to negotiate
ok maybeee
maybe houses were a bit of a un-needed priority...
you BROUGHT him here!
Coincidance that he the massige was sent from the duke line?
I mean
i can fix him
We can negotiate, sure
unless you want juraj to die
We don't mind that
:3
Also yeah
because we wont win against that lmao
The Vanguards will do all we can to ensure the safety of the hostage
i can give leverage from the pre-established relationship...
FUCK
šø
Wohn.
you'll just give the city to him!
I don't think anyone trusts you anymore Wohn.
okay, shame on me
-# hey so the minute kinda passed could I ples get context
You ruined relations with all the other factions Wohn.
Pierre doesn't speak for the Vanguards
do you want to fight against a landcruiser
-# I kinda missed the whole vanguard settler revenant thing
-# bestie i am so deep in bed rn
-# gimme a bit to wake up
Nah, I'd win.
are you throwing me from the vanguards?
-# oh my bad
we're going to be run over its better to get a good settlement
I didn't say that
but the official stance of the Vanguards is to save everyone not just those within the walls
He is literally threatening to kill people of our own, he doesn't seem to want to make a fair deal, but take everything we own, or they ram down our walls with a bigger Jewel
well we either die or get a deal
Send the revs i got this
its a dichotomy
i think he's frostlanderphobic
I will "solve" things
We wouldn't have been in this position in the first place if
You know
The vanguards want to kill our own people!
You didn't plan our death
slander
who said that
i only had the good of civilisation in mind
revenants are the original frostlanders under Jincent
tusks are new frostlanders from tusk cave
Vanguards are the guards of the city
Settlers are from another city that fell, their old leader, the duke, just got here wanting to negotiate something, possibly the "conquest" that we caught in a radio transmission.
Right now everyone is panicking because we seem very underprepared for this
good of habercity
i did
I wonder why we are so under prepared...
guns wont do anything against a landship
we'd need anti-tank
rifles
Negotiate.
Fight.
Surrender. [Wohns choice.]
Negotiate doesn't necessarily stop one of the others from happening.
it's almost like Wohn has a stake in this by not making anything
Wait⦠so thereās no science faction???? š
i want to negotiate
FUCK
YOU INVITED THE DUKE
I canāt vote š
Vanguards:
honestly pretty okay idea
Settlers:
On one hand he could have some leverage against the duke, on the other do we trust the guy
Revenants: probably pretty reasonable in negotiation
Tusks: Juraj is theirs but harry would try to fistfight the duke
its a shame they werent invented yet
so
there are
Haber is the science guy
maybe the choice of giving control of the factory to a single political group wasn't the best choice to be made
no weapons we can use
settlers, technically
Make sure to not be swayed by Settler Propoganda.
we will fix that after the war
i'll get a better settlement, trust
Welp, I know where my vote is going, the revenants cause blue and blue=science
vote for settler, vote for not being ran over
you see, i'm a fan of dramatizing things
also, is no one questioning how auraj got kidnapped by them in the first place
Which doesn't help at the moment.
what
Duke City will either be peak or a dystopia
im saying revenants.
Yeah, sending him wasn't the best idea
I'm thinking Miku, Miku, Ooh-ee-ooh
Auraj Jxolotl is somehow with the Duke's group
though understandable
and their hostage
they have special forces
we're cooked
Just asking do they want to negotiate inside their veihicle?
thee settlers obviously kidnapped juraj
stop spreading misinformation
Wait, so, tomorrow we're getting news of negotations?
well they snatched him somehow
@steep elm Can we have a show of proof that Auraj is alive?
and wants habeer city to be nothing morethan a colony
outside
Booo
i didnt do anything
i got confirmation about that
he walked outside the vehicle with the rest of the settlers
Cool.
holding him by the scruff like a kitten
I think you need to be alive to walk and be thrown on the ground
Any visible weapons?
I mean they have a tank
:3 moment
But does that tank have any pew pews?
look i know this tank is pretty intimidating but im sure we can have a good ending to this
Ye but can they kill us from afar?
if they have a tank then they probably have superior firepower too
if the settlers in the cave had a gun
they probably have too
I would assume it has weapons.
Settlers are obvious choice, since the Duke was contacted by them, the Duke will certainly be willing to listen, and thus, have succesful negotiations
you just need to trust me on this
if you Catanians just made weapons for the City we wouldn't be so astronomically screwed
brother
this is a tank
rifles cannot pierce that
at rifles havent been invented yet
we'll be ran over and nothing can be done
might be a smoker thingy
I don't think Vanguards or Revenants would fit to negotiations in such a situation
i hope
Haber
that's me
tusks are too emotionally involved due to the hostage
Can our walls prevent the tank from coming at us?
I refuse to send Wohn out there
I assume not
its the logical choice
you cowardly spineless cat
wow
we can get more levarage than you
I'd rather die then live under his servitude
You can't.
We need to use wohn as a hostage of our own
cool, so why are you dooming the rest of us
Wohn is best choice. The Duke won't listen anyone but him
we can
Use the settlers as leverage
"the rest of us"
buddy most of the people here are willing to fight
And I know for sure that three out of four groups will be fighting to make sure we live in OUR city
freedom or death
ok
This city is a shithole but itās ours
@timid sandal
by the way, these negotiations will be going
by the hour every post
Wha

I'm sure we could talk this out, they could kill it in any moment
@steep elm where are other 2 Tusks from the expedition?
nowhere to be seen
they killed two of our people
Revenants are a neutral face
Maybe they're inside the Jewel
There is no prove of that for now
Clean slate
I removed them from the pop since you don't know if they are alive or dead
Use them
the duke was attacked by frostlanders wasnt he
seems like racist
Let's not speculate
I see
or biased against them
Woah
sending vanguards will not result in anything good due to their outlook of 'all or nothing'
its just delaying death
that's not what we are saying
Revs dont like the Duke because of the found implications of what happened in the frostlands
I see
All options have flaws
The Vanguards made an oath to protect the city and it's people
we will not simply hand over Haber City to the Duke
we will not threaten the people like that
what will you try to achieve then
We're sending the Revs right now.
What's your excuse for them?
I mean
We shall stay independent or our conquerors will have to rule over ashes
We do not know what he want's in the first place
Maybe he just needs resourses or something done to some people
self-proclaimed dislike of him
I DIDNT EVEN SEE THE FUCKING TANK
we have yet to see the demands of the Duke, but we wish to free the hostage and keep our city independent
yeah
i dont think
that will be achieved without significant concessions
very significant
it's a bit more far away than that btw, I just didn't have space to put it more away without making everything lag
The Vanguards are too milatristic.
The Tusks are too involved.
The Revanants have a self-proclaimed dislike.
My brother in Haber. Nobody wants to send the Settlers, so pick from the list.
Let's just
this isnt a negotiation we have an upper hand in
my brother in haber
yeah, right now this is staqrting the negotiations
yknow what
depending on it, we can even change out our delegation
not my problem with the vanguards
later
im trusting tarry actually
Not when you're on your knees before "your" 'Duke', no.
you think the fact that he has hostages and missing people wont affect things
this will mostly just state what either side wants and only after that will the proposals really start (if we make any)
HOW BIG IS THAT TANK, I JUST REALISED
There is a simple solution for everything
can you stop playing devils advocate for
5 MINUTES
???
Yeah no, negotiations are our ONLY hope
hull doesnt count
no im trying to save this city
government of national salvation
doesn't he?-
well you are a late starter arent you mr. saviour
Defeatist
I refuse to sit back and let the city get taken by their autocratic Duke
we'll be ran over and its over
Tanks in my view of history have always been weak to being charged and surrounded by infantry
well this isnt a tank
this is
a big ass landship
You will give in into a life of slavery
Yeah, good luck defeating the tank that's as big as HALF OUR CITY
this is not a tank, it's quite larger than it
THIS AINT A SCENE ITS A GOD DAMN ARMS RACE-
Land ships are an outdated term for tanks
its half of our city
well it wouldn't be a problem if WOHN MADE MORE WEAPONS
do you think we can pierce the armour of that
with rifles
with regular rifles
a fourth maybe
it'd be something
I see an opportunity to steal a landship
WHAT would those even do in our case?! We'd get ran over by the huge tank, and all be dead! We could have maybe killed some of them, but we're outnumbered both in numbers and in firepower by a lot!
what would that give you
congratulations you dented it
with all of your firepower
What difference does it make
Ah yes, against that big armor
would that work in the cold
have they been invented yet
bombs are generally pretty good against tanks
because AT rifles havent
I'm sure that
ffs
In THIS cold outside
yeah, I meant that
it's around a fourth or a third, when you count in the mines, it's slightly longer than what I have drawn bu it's still not that much bigger
That tank's armor would be WAY stronger than a normal tank's
Ok I have a strategy to win this
its a big ass land vehicle not a car
"I'm tying to save the city!"
Get out of here.
Seriously.
Supplication will not save the city. It will ENSLAVE it.
late renesaince?
I can't believe some of you are perfectly fine with living in servitude to a Duke you don't even know
We will talk directly with the Duke btw?
use a little more gunpowder
The only thing that tank's sparing is the Settlers and the coal mine, maybe the old Jewel, but in rest, EVERYTHING is getting ran over
no
with someone representing him
lol, lmao even
Infantry charge the ship and forcibly enter it to try and take control
representative, maybe you can get a conference with him during negotiations
but you don't have the upper hand here
and take him hostage
-# fuck kind of titan piece of shit-
tat for tat
so it'd be difficult to even get them to agree to that
you gotta remember the Tusks adhere to an eye for an eye policy, they aren't the best for negotiations
take him hostage.. inside of his own vehicle
especially considering there's a hostage, potentially three, on the line
Haber, can we bring gifts
what
To convince the Duke to be kinder
why would you do that
I mean
Think about it
sure
why
Kings in the past LOVED gifts
the fuck
the Catanians need to go
i mean that works but why
would we DO THAT
defeatist party
centrists
They'd feel generous, and maybe be more lenient on us
Are you saying to surrender and make Haber city a tributary vassal under the duke?
fatalists ngl
So sweet from you
maybe if it were like, 900 years ago, you'd be a good negotiator
No, gifts as in
Gifts
Doomsayers even
yeah
I'm sure the Duke is no different
U
revs and vans
C
K
trust
Y
O
something
O
O
O
would certainly change the Duke's mind
O
O
winston pal
you are
harming the
image
of negotiating
"Fuck YOOOOOO
Youāre right, give him the settlers head.
U
You harmed the city the moment you lured him here
whataboutism
take Wohn hostage
proposing gifts is making people less convinced
that'll set the stage eveb
musa
do you think he cares lmao
C
A
insignificant
a member of their force nonetheless
This MIGHT be the end
traitors to Haber City
the one person the settlers had with them that was important, the Duke's apprentice, already died before the settlers got here with the Jewel
all who want to surrender are traitors
stop with the doomsaying you lemon its not over til its over.

I trust Duke a bit more then to Wohn at this point smh
What if we revive him
Necromancy
WAIT
WHAT IF
THEY JUST
WANT THE JEWEL BACK
why would they do that
perhaps...