#🧊Frost Mini - Haber City
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Clara decrease the Revs relations with the Settlers from skeptical to disliked
Or at least vote for an iron mine
Yes but
An ENTIRE wall at once
Is better than two halves
but sure
that doesn't work like that, sadly
roger that!
it does
It will just waste one slot
haber said
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Haber said that it doesn't work like that
It does
it does
You only waste an action if it Goes above 2/2
yes
Therefore
We can build the entire Eastern wall at once
ala
als
widsiwoaniowa
@steep elm
Once again, if the same building is voted (like East wall 1/2) in both, then the wall is just automatucally completed?
I talked about it when walls became an option
if you vote for 2 1/2 options, they get completed
the north wall that one time would just waste because it was a 2/2 choice
it is
waow
I wonder who found out about the 'evil act'
instead of having 3 pipes for each 3 buildings
it uses 1 big pipe for 1 big building
also damn guys thanks for support
I believe in Auraj
A lot of people are betting on you lol
-# Matilda...
I just hope for a good fight
And a chance that it will actually result in a drop in tension
After all, it's not for death
Smokes old pipe
"Such an entertainment"
It's both to learn from each other and show who is the best
A nice show for me and Nric
or the next leader?
A fight in the pit
Public death match.
Its not to death
-# I dont think atleast
What?
Huh?
I remember mentioning it in here
Its a frendly fight between tusks and vanguards
ACTUALLY?!
Yeah
So you aren't Wohns champion?
No? Im a tusk
Hang on. Just need to renovate the ring really quickly.
Damn
Need to remove the anti-personal mines.
I demanded match
Anyways, Ierre is winning this
i wouldnt join him even if i was payed to do it
You would join him even if paid?

-# Evil setelers
No this purely for fun and maybe bonding with vanguards
After all what bring people together more then a fighting pit match
Made by us tusks
Nice.
May the best fighter win then.
Though I hope you forgive me for hoping my fellow Vanguard does well.
Its fine and understandable
And besides its fun
Im not made for fist to fist combat so i dont expect to do well but as a tusk i will try my best
-# relationship up?
-# Maybe after fight
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I can see it.
My personal opinion of the Tusks has already gone up recently.
Can I get the spar next turn against a Tusk?
Well uhh its just me and harry
I'll happily fight either.
Maybe depending on how this will go might need some down time XD
Brothers or cousins yes
Someone wants in the family
Just ready to rumble.
The reason of this event is to help me to make a decision
I wanna see the combat system. 🙃
I'm not spying on anyone anymore!
is it possible to host some kind of military parade to improve morale

place your bets
6
9
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Iierre
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Vanguards
Well, uh
You would be the problem to morale, since you were caught spying on people
so is that a no, or...
Here we go
I don't know if a parade would go well right now
I see
anyway, let me get to results
@here
It is a long fight with various ups and downs
congratulations @sour stratus, you won, lady luck is on your side, fate favours you
as the fight ends, you guys can see the sky get much clearer...
The Whiteout comes to an end
Congratulations on the win.
daym
well
pure skill
Good fight lad!
Whiteout over 
Congrats
less important than the fight
No, I'm trying to cope with the heavy loss
minor information without much importance
I am in severe debt after betting it all on Ierre
I'll get you some money
Money is of no use in the frostlands
I'm awakening the third eye
The Alleyes prophecy must be fulfilled
alleyes
yes
Thank you
people who lost money
people who won money
-# and thank you so much for beleveing in a little ol fish over here
(Did the fight had any actual effect in game?)
I mean the whiteut ended
That must be the cause 🤔
But i dubt it was because of us
But thats a good question @steep elm
YOOO I GOT MONEY
Yes :3
I had hope in you succeeding and it paid off :3
Whaow
Are hating and hostile the same color?..
Red / dark red
Hostile is bit darker
No
It would've decreased tension if so much hadn't happend
But too tense for it to count
otherwise its too cramped
WOOOOOOHOOOOO
Ace of Spades
Clara, quick question
yuh?
bweh?
all of what
is made a in a google sheets
Everyone dislikes setteleres lol
all the info and etc
is made in an excel sheet on my pc which i also use for personal notes
you dont get this file
ooooh ok
I just thought there was a link here to sometimes come and check
still thanks
So did revenants spy on sttelers then?
TC C[Redacted] F[Expunged]
idfk they just like them less
ask vinnie
im just keeping books
The archivist
I think only haber knows what exactly is happening in the background
So tahts a yes alright then
And I'm moral support if I don't have a group I'm in XP
did someone reveal the evil act
No i only theorize
Since YOU went from sceptical to dislikeing on revs
I think it's up to you
The only change I made was on vanguards
Because I think it's you
Yeah
who did the evil act
im not the discoverer
nor that
the only relationship change i did was on the vanguards for spying
I guess we will never know, who spied this last turn.
(relations change on both sides, both sides can declare their relationship as going up or down)
(contradiction in "up" or "down" means staying the same.)
Idling bad
Wasted a week
shouldnt have spied on me
fine, let's keep it that way
I didnt
ask clara about that not me
im just the messager
the only change i did from my end was on vanguards
SHE SAID I SHOULD ASK YOU
dont shoot the courier
FUCKING WHEN
i wouldnt
well you said vinnie
I dont think Clara knows the reasons why things are changing
this is a false flag operation
I sorry ;-;
im getting framed
im trying to be impartial here
which means upholding secrecy
also THIS was in regards to
THIS
to which i said
"ask the guy directly, i have no idea"
Btw i already told the reason why the revs/settlers relations changed
You are stewards secretary
I know
im the ghost of paperworks present
im here because you hate christmas or smth
There are paperworks of past and future
wh
:[
Here
Yeah but thos two pic that i sent are form settlers not revs
Im not sure you got how the relations thing is working
Auraj
Yes?
If i understood it correctly, changes in the group relations affect both sides (the same indicator)
That means that either i or Jilson asked for the change
yea
but like
if you said up
but jilson said down
it would stay level
(like if you dont know what the other said)
(if you said it openly thats a different thang)

Proud of ye, Auraj
Well, assuming that Vanguards accepted the challenge, I feel those wimps deserve some more trust from family, as well as some of OUR help
@narrow oar could ye later increase Tusk relationship towards Vanguards to "Liking"?
Yet, we still expect Vanguards to fulfill their promise and we could appear with some more requests... Later
Auraj proven himself as a Chosen One once more, a fair step for future successor. @steep elm, can I assign two Tusks, who were observing the fight, under his own management?
@bitter glacier , Your guard have fought fairly, yet lost, would you like to be accounted in the family? It's more demanding, but family membership in such events is a tradition. As a distant non-Tusk, a relative
👍
Thanks for the trust but i dont beleve i would be a good leader so you sould have all tusks under you
Also one fight proves nothing
That's my request, you should know how to be a leader before further steps

It doesn't prove, yet promotes
No honestly i got no idea what to do with them XD

They'll be under yer command
(Well, I go to sleep for now, ping me if smth)
wdym?
@steep elm could ye note it? For management I will keep things the same, but abandon the Pit for now
Auraj deserved some rest, after all
^
hmm?
yeah sure dude
@steep elm are any Vanguards not trained or in training?
-# psssst
-# are you prioritizing getting everyone half trained or getting the half trained full trained?
-# bc the patrollers are half trained and you and the sawmill alpha staff are untrained
I'm prioritizing getting everyone trained
the patrol is half, the saw and me arent at all
@steep elm I'd like to put everyone who isnt training in training regardless of efficiency loss
Ok
There won't really be any difference if they are under you or him, I'll just keep that in mind
@steep elm because the whiteout is over I'd like to make prep for 5 guards to take a look at the cave and conduct an official investigation
Nice
Nothing ever happens
-# no??
building 1
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13
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iron mine
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iron
building 2
9
13
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east wall 1/2
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hardwood
Expedition
7
13
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Frozen Wastes
🥶
Are the Vanguards going to give Guns and ammo for the scouts (only during the exploration)?
I believe so
@here
so many things going well!
nothing wrong happening here, everything built as the scouts go out to explore the frozen wastes.
as the whiteout goes away, Haber decides to organise a little meeting to decide exactly how to deal with the supposed enemy that is arriving in around... 4 weeks, basically 1 month.
we can attack them first and not give them any chance of attacking us, but possibly miss out on any kind of diplomacy. we'd probably lose more people, but we'd have abetter chance of repelling the invasion... probably
and we can try negotiating, but in case they arrive attacking we'll be the ones to get hurt first. In this case, we would try and minimise any kind of loss, be it of people or resources... if it works
or we can reinforce our city to the max, in hopes they don't attack in the first place and leave us alone. In this case we'd be wasting a lot of resources in hopes they deem us not worth it... which could not be the case and may cause multiple shortages
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the walls are to keep people out, not wind
they aren't tight enough to stop it in meaningful ways
we can focus on windproofing the walls after the war
Exactly
@steep elm can we try to build smth this turn please
We can repurpose them after they've done their job
🙏
you can steal wood if you want
-# scary
but not in any official capacity, no
third option would give more buildings, but it'd cause food, coal, wood and iron shortages as it overloads everything so we can construct more
which will make people even more angry, considering tension is already nearing the boiling point
the people have already been 11 weeks or more under emergency rationing
so they're not bound to be happy in case stuff starts to be lacking even with the measures
Wasn't food the thing we were doing great at?
yes
but reinforcement would cause shortages in everything
because we're extracting more to build more
and we'd be wasting more coal and more food to reinforce things in time
If we negotiate, can we still build the walls and wall guns?
I mean, yeah, if you think we have enough time
Also, is the reinforcement debuff permanent or only for the following four weeks?
Well this is difficult
either until the enemy arrives and goes away or until the end of the conflict if the enemy decides to go through with it, we'd still need to maintain the fortifications
So, in theory, it can go from as little as 5 weeks, to as long as 20(if they persist enough)
What if they fool us by acting friendly, and when they get inside our walls, they start decimating us 
in the off chance thats its a mistake, we could save a lot of issues by finding out wether they are hostile or not
if not, then they dont have anything more to prepare anyways if they know we know
Actually, he does have a point
and with reinforcing, odds are theyd still attack since they're probably running low and there arent many civilisations in the frost
what?
when was i ever opposed to that
I thought you don't care about non-citizens
how did you come to that conclusion
also that viewpoint wouldnt invalidate seeing negotiations pragmatically
Easily
Pagmaticly would be to not allow them to step towards our gates
non-answer
its pragmatic to check wether we will in fact be fighting against an actual enemy or killing people on assumption
Is someone using up all our materials how couldnt we build stuff?
We just had a building turn last turn
Yeah but more building... ya know
I will put all my trained personel on the sawmill, and start training the rest of them
Everyone
is it possible for other groups to improve morale
other than vans
considering no one likes us currently...
@atomic pebble in particular considering that the tusks are fighting tension in the pit
Not sure how my ppl could do that
make something up I suppose
it's how I did fliers
4 hours until midnight
I like the icon for trained
Maybe i can grow some special murshrooms 
yeah, drug the people to give them trust!
I wouldn't reccomend it for sawmil workers
do a bohemian
Hmm i dont think my ppl would do that during a crisis
Nothing bring up moral more than defeated enemy
We also don't have mushrooms, most we have is medical anesthesia stuff
the issue is how we drag morale high enough to actually defeat the enemy
good enough
Only if we won't need people to actualy win
Well, we have a chance to negotiate, or fortify
I don't trust Settlers with negotiations, maybe we should chose who will meet them, if we are going to chit chat
I'm worried about the third option tipping us over the edge of tension or trust
Food, coal and material
For first two we simply don't have enough people
but the third is the only sensible way to go for me
I can put everyone on patrol on extra shifts
we might suffer trust loss though
We still are rationing
also imo the kind of people who'd "conquest" don't sound like the kind of people we can negotiate with
and it's easier to negotiate with a big wall around you
so either way we want that wall done
Thats why i say reinforce
@steep elm no matter the outcome I want my people ready for defending the city
Having a fortified location is a good idea in my mind.
There’s a reason castles were so popular.
We can also use it to fall back to after the city grows outside the original walls if need be.
we can negotiate well behind walls
and they can be repurposed if need be later
i see it as infrastructure development
us in 4 weeks once we build the wall
please stop voting for wall
people are tense enough as is
we're so going to collapse from this ultramilitarisation
2h left
you do know we have a tension problem
which will probably not get better if we do this
We have a slight tension problem.
????????
But it is better than losing people or resources to the attack.
Do we have a way to lower tension?
I did.
4/5 tension +1 tension is fiiiiiiiiine.
We really need to try and stop the rationing.
Maybe get some reindeer in here.
how should we deal with the hypothetical attackers when we first meet them
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14
yeah
-# (the house option)
didnt cooper vote for negotiating
the one that doesnt cause us to have tension crisis
i already voted
why not
what why?
I thought that
Haber was considering your vote null in case of tie
he changed the rules
WOOOOOO
there was no option for housing 😔
it appears I did
poach
YOU CREAZY?
Why>
You want to negotiate with someone WHOS HERE TO LITERARY CONQUEST US
Isn't the only thing we know from them is "my claim"?
What is that?
Also, we could negotiate first to avoid unnecessary bloodspill
Maybe this whole conflict is avoidable
And if it fails
talking about how the third option would make THE CITY BLOW.
To be fair we did survive whiteout
@here
We will first try to negotiate with the supposed enemy that might or might not arrive here soon, before trying anything else against them. Hopefully we'll be able to speak with them.
Some
Vanguards have also left to return next week, to verify Tusk Cave for anything that might have happened there, and maybe understand what the
Settlers there did to the Tusks. If they did anything at all.
The scouts also came back! The Low Lands were quite empty, but they did find 4 Frostlanders that joined the
Tusks. There were some traces of other settlements, but it seems like they were dismantled before the whiteout ended, as any tracks of people moving are basically entirely covered or non-existent
Now, we should continue with our buildings.
fix
fix2
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it's so sad this won't be a reality. how could you cooper?
always bet on barracks
@open pewter showtime
i think they can just come from any side
if they see there is a wall on one side they can
just
Right
@steep elm you didnt update tusk membercount in the new poast
I forgor
purgatory
-# it also was yesterday
-# oh
All the vanguards - ready to fight!
Also, mayben any Tusks are interested in getting at least half-trained? Just to know extra stuff
-# they already said it was against their culture
-# i proposed that a couple days ago
-# besides they HAVE their own training
uhhhh
@steep elm if we had 26 tusks last turn and got 4 more why do we have 29
did they sell juraj
I ate him
yall we really need to win the war
otherwise im gonna be out of art projects again
and i dont want that
I may have
done a second mistake
-# Fish sticks?
You know what
I woul turn you into bonemeal and fertilze plants of polaris
But if i would do that then all the food would rot away

we have more messages than the labourer discussion board
yknow
the closer we get to
WAR
the more quiet this chat gets
but like
why
also i havent seen some people here in quite a bit
meanwhile i am just
paperwork
while hoping the city doesnt die on us
-# and noone listens to me anyhow
Hmm... Harsh world of politics, eh?
Reminds me of smth smh
I am busy making a cardboard wall to protect our south
No I’m the schizophrenic playing in the snow
-# "hey why does this citys accountant have a tv for a head"
-# "idk just roll with it"
building 1
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East Wall 2/2
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building 2
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Barrack
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Yay, we have a wall
I know what you're trying to do, Nric
cause there's like 2 weeks left now
Yeah, but a complete wall segment is good
having completed segment and a started one would've been nicer
Well... We have a certain lack in materials
less to talk about
we await the week of truth
Yup
@here
The
Vanguards head to Tusk Cave, and there they found [REDACTED]
Now, we should go bother @turbid viper, and try to convince the
Settlers to produce something in the factory. It'll be entirely dependent on if you can convince him to do something, so no poll for that
but, we can also start insulating new stuff, so let's vote on that
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I lurk here
Redacted?
the, workplace part
not the actual underground mines
the overground
i shall hear the requests for the great steel behemoth and consult the orb to determine the best outcome
if all the ideas suck you're getting workplace tools again
War Automation?
looking up your responses by magic 8ball is
can you make guns?
only next turn
not the 8est idea r8lly
i doubt theyll be done
also tell us what you found there vanguards.
Make a Automation have GUNS :D
Make a southern wall
you doubt our work ethic,,,,,
that'll be expensive
no resources for that
do you want us to make it out of iron or something
@bitter glacier report to headquarters, now
We need 3
not even i know what happened
so im actually curious
would they even work if not fully compleated
no lol
they can just go around cant they
I mean at least we’ve prevented them from fully surrounding us
I've received important news, reach out to the other two vans for inquiries directed at the vanguards
i doubt they had enough people to do that anyways
tell us your discovery
right
so uh
i made the revs and vans not completely red anymore since they are fully trained!
woo!
okay
@turbid viper since we cant have GUNS can we at least get the ammo done today, without the guns ofc
so we have like
more time
just the ammo isnt gonna do anything
so i fail to see how that would be able to be used against anyone
the orb shall be consulted and ye shall discover its fruits at the next post
@turbid viper Go and reconstruct Jewel engine into a Dreadnought
we cant do anything with the jewel
no one can
also we cant afford to build a dreadnought
nor do we have the technology for it
Yet

One must imagine barbed wires
"several"
we do not possess the technological capabilities to design a dreadnought
2 days
bait used to be believable
(
)
decades
istg if we lose this war because ONE OF OUR MAIN FACTION LEADERS DECIDES STUFF USING A MAGIC 8 BALL
pretty based ngl
true
True...
Pulls out 12-card deck
ye shall not doubt the orb
бля и ты туда же 

Oui
@steep elm I'd like to put 4 people in The Pit and attempt to decrease tension
did the settlers stay idle again?

i swear, i wont let my people down.
Thou shant insult the orb
can we at least have some protective gear, in case they start shooting at us?
I shall add that to the pondering pool
But
I dont think
We have effective bulletproof armour
Heavy steel plates are okay'ish if you dont plan on moving around
Can we sacrifice settlers to make the orb better at orbing
The closer we are for the W-Day, the more I think that it is a good idea
2 weeks?
@steep elm I'll take the 5 from cave and 5 from patrol and put them on the wall we currently have as lookouts & security
@turbid viper are you making anything in the factory
refer to uh
He's asking the ball
yeah 2 weeks
oh my lord
the fate of the factory
is in the hands
OF AN EIGHT BALL WITH A WINDOW?
gtfo
I was checking to ensure plans were properly executed
It's sad that only 45% of our population is trained to fight
eeeh im sure the tusks can handle themselves
nice

A bit more waiting and we use Wohn as bait
I agree
He would be a good sacrefice

Training dummy
Finally some good from the settlers /j
Fr
witchhunt again
-# Wait is he prepereing to take over or a revolution?
ok
no weapons for anyone
So evil
yknow im starting to think you dont know what a witch hunt is
You do know that the more guns you produce the less angry we are and more favorably we see you?
Bro just tinkers behind our backs, what else I can think?
Yet you just
im constantly being accused of some evil and nefarious schemes
Annex the settlers smh
im not gambling on that
Mostly jokingly, yet you actually sabotaging on that
Yeah, whatever
because you keep sabotaging us
Yeah 
Imagine decreasing relations with Haber himself
We helped you. We allowed you in our city, we gave you protection. We even allowed you to maintain your right to have only Settlers in the Factory. And we protected you from the Tusks when they wanted to lynch some of you
And when you were asked to do one thing - just one - you refuse
This is not gambling
You just came here to ruin the game for all of us
-# the settlers conspire with the duke

Let's just tough it out
The first thing you did was hang me over the generator
Any prove?
Wohn make us some gambling machines
Show me it then
it was paramount for city survival
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besides youre alive so its all good
Okay what the fuck

yeah so we kinda dont trust you lot
My point still stands but now I understand your actions at least
Give us one reason to trust you?
we couldve ran you over with the jewel as haber said
-# ewe

One must imagine Scout trusted
Who even decided to make that as a poll in the first place
And?
so if we were to take you over why didnt we

Let's do it again
what reason was there to not just kill you all back then
So it wasn't from any of the leaders 
Because you need your duke
it was voted on
And waiting
what would've stopped us from doing that ourselves
In fact no leaders or actually members of communities voted in favor back then
Resources?
it was still voted on
Vanguards
And they yeah
can you read
killing all
would
also
involve the vanguards
You could've tried to kill us all
Yeah and you want us to trust you?
Same with tusks
And now even more
With what
haber said we couldve done it with the jewel easily
Wtf is a jewel even
To be fair if vanguards tusks and revs joined together we would over power settelers
@steep elm
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newgens smh
Who's John?
the gennie thing was by someone who doesnt even play the game anymore
and it was at the same time as us AGREEING TO GET YOUR DUKE BACK
it still happened
Exacly
-# back for execution
-# she meant wohn, dw about that

Let's tie him to generator again
"Yeah I know we applied enhanced interrogation techniques but we agreed to find the guy that we were told had significant scientific capabilities so it cancels out"
Dont look at me i still beleved we shpuld have went with more people
We still provided you with everything. We could've thrown you away after that

Calm down, people
we were a plurality for a great time, so that wasnt a feasible option for you
Wha

plurality
having the most but not the majority
We had guns
5
We still have
Still enough to kill more then half of you
i dont think so
still
it would result in melee combat
You don't because your traditionalist ass doesn't know anything
In which Vanguards are still better then Settelers
which would still result in casaulties for you
devastation from the fighting too
I'm sure it wouldn't happen because Settlers have all the different types of people. Meanwhile Vanguards are fighters. Guards, all of them
Either way
Keep going the way you follow
And I will make sure I will personally bring you to the steam platform
cool
I will help :]
The Jewel was a vehicle that had an Engine made with a bunch of fused/modified steam cores, being able to burn more than just coal
We removed that engine from the vehicle and made a furnace attached to the generator making us able to burn non-coal stuff with efficiency
Do we know any downsides to the jewel?
No i emnt somthing along the lines if we put this in it explodes
Or like the flaws of it
burn the guns
infinite heat glitch
So once again Wohn refuses to produce anything in the factory?
Or are they making something other than guns?
well he doesnt want to make guns for
reasons
and is also just uncooperative in general
in regards to making anything else
yeah but he keeps saying that he will consult "the orb"
and if he actually uses an 8 ball to decide this stuff
we are doomed.
the orb has been consulteth
a decision hath been madeth
haber has been informed
Please.
Produce.
Literally.
Anything.
Make some fucking kids toys for Christmas.
I don’t care.
Just make something.
something shall be made
What are Haber’s opinions on the factions?
-# he will build a radio and contact the duke so they can prepare for the assault
:3
insulate
6
13
3
mines
⛏️
Ah
I see
Since i have you here how much is left before conquest
one week
So next week after this next post?
uhhh yea
Oof
Can we please build the last wall?
sadly no
two thirds of a wall.
no time
Ask haber
we need to build ttraps now
bear traps
in the snow
pits with spikes at the bottom
Lol
Building turn plzzz
did the vanguards tell us that investigation result
@here
Supposedly, next week the enemy will arrive
Wohn has decided to make Shields for the City to use against the invaders
and now, it's time for one last construction round, double buildings as courtesy from the
Settlers
the city is very agitated, Tension continues high as the day slowly arrives
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please stop voting FOR FUCKING HOUSES
we can fully build onee more wall
:3
wee can build the south wall
that only leaves the west exposed
pleas
ewall
wall
wall
i dont think
could you imagine
Just ONE more house
they can
come from the west
ONE MORE WALL
west isnt exposed
ONE
cliff face.
-# hull
HULL THERES A WAR SOON
giant plateau
WE DONT NEED HOUSES
ONE MROE GODDAMN HOUSE
the invaders are just mountain goats
too steep to climb up or down
the homeless would disagree
they have a bunker
I bg
wall.
beg
they be callin me dr house
please.
Nope, they didnt
dr. house please
90° cliff, unclimbable
we can make haber city one big house if webuild walls
wait
what if
i didnt think about it like that
what if... 89º
the real enemy was the vanguard trying to keep us from progress-adaptation unity
Doable
Wait a minute…
Ceaseless Guard forges Unbreakable Ranks, after all.
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