🧊Frost Mini - Haber City

[steep elm]

it's good to see exactly 0 people messaging me in my DMs about evil plans

[marble hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/dementia-villainous-gif-8365847263952024552

[steep elm]

also @here, new policy: Cooper will be the tiebreaker from now on as long as he doesn't join a group
so if you need to break a tie, try to get him on your side

[open pewter]

please cooper i need this

im kinda homeless

i live in the bunker

[marble hatch]

Vince have it

[sonic pivot]

already voted housing

[bitter glacier]

cooper

we need more buildings for the war

today's poll may have already been decided but keep the war in your mind in the future

oh wait is that a new poll

nvm

[narrow oar]

im with the vans on this

[bitter glacier]

because we're so awesome right

[narrow oar]

i do like yall a lot

red is a nice colour

[bitter glacier]

exactly

vote for us because our color is red

perfect logic

military takes priority and thus we should start training immediately

the wall can be built any time

however the longer we have ppl in training the better they will get

[marble hatch]

Why they wait 10 weeks, when will whiteout end

[sour stratus]

You are not wrong

[bitter glacier]

I am right actually

[marble hatch]

Maybe we could reinforce it further later

[bitter glacier]

it wont mean anything if we dont have well trained vanguards to defend it

[marble hatch]

I can't see how a wooden wall will prevent anything

[narrow oar]

well even if we

[bitter glacier]

it impedes them

[narrow oar]

9 left
North 1
Trainign camp

8 left
North 2

7 left 6 left
South 1 2

5 4 left

east 1 2

we still have 3 for uh

other stuff

even if we dont get the settler bonus

[bitter glacier]

right we dont need a west wall do we

[narrow oar]

we are kinda

rock

[bitter glacier]

"we are kinda rock" - Lesbiab

the vanguards will print this quote and spread it amongst the citizens for morale

-# /j

[marble hatch]

I mean, we could build a training post and then while their train we could further focus on defense
And since ye folks don't appreciate boobytraps I propose to further enhance bare wooden walls to fort walls

[bitter glacier]

boobytraps are bad cuz ppl might still seek refuge here

our goal is defence not killing as many things as possible

I argue it'd be best to capture a couple alive and interrogate them

[marble hatch]

That's why I propose fortified walls which could survive harder blows, I don't think that if they prepare for a raid they'll come empty-handed

[bitter glacier]

we need to prepare as well though

[warm cliff]

Strong walls - strong souls...

[bitter glacier]

by training our people

fortified walls mean nothing if we cant defend them

the longer ppl train the better they will be

[warm cliff]

Don't worry since we have Training Grounds I will be teaching people very soon

[bitter glacier]

the problem is that we are at a tie rn

[warm cliff]

Wdym

[bitter glacier]

apparently not

[marble hatch]

That's why I propose fortified walls, once again
After a training post we can solely focus on walls and make them even more protective later

[narrow oar]

5 - 4 lead

[bitter glacier]

my information was outdated

[narrow oar]

🎉

[warm cliff]

We will build the walls, no problem with that

[narrow oar]

that autopsy report of yours...

[marble hatch]

(Since we'd have some extra weeks)

[warm cliff]

We have enough time

But we need more time to actually train people

[narrow oar]

well yeah thats why we are starting now innit?

thing is

[warm cliff]

Yep

[narrow oar]

WHO do we train

most of our city is uh

busy

doing

[marble hatch]

That doesn't mean we have to waste it
We can both train people and build

[narrow oar]

city stuff

[bitter glacier]

if we build the training center last it means no one will get training

[bitter glacier]

vanguards of course

[narrow oar]

shouldnt they be trained already?

[warm cliff]

Vanguards and mostly those who can be liberated from jobs

[bitter glacier]

half of our force has been recruited from other groups

[warm cliff]

The more people know how to fight for the city - the better

[bitter glacier]

they dont have as much experience

[narrow oar]

which is the uh

[marble hatch]

My people have pit for such stuff

[narrow oar]

three tusks that are playing beer pong in the institute basement

[warm cliff]

We can make changes. For example, trained people can go to the workplaces and those who are not ready will go to the training grounds.

[marble hatch]

Hey, we are already heading an expedition for reinforcements

[bitter glacier]

-# we might wanna draft some revenants into combat medics...

[warm cliff]

Yeah, we will need everyone

[marble hatch]

That one is for Vince to ask, Tusk can take out 3 enemies before needing help

[warm cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/leeroy-gif-348771154449152640

[narrow oar]

i can uh

try making a list of priority trainees

[warm cliff]

Hmmm

[bitter glacier]

vanguards
everyone else

[warm cliff]

That would be nice, yes

[narrow oar]

since ive already basically taken the position of

logistical dumbass

[marble hatch]

Simple as
Vanguards
Revenants
Settlers
Tusks

[narrow oar]

less like that

more uh

[marble hatch]

Priority or?

[narrow oar]

the 5 blokes working the med posts should get it earlier as to

be more efficient in combat

miners are generally LESS likely to need combat prowess

[marble hatch]

We need more resources

[bitter glacier]

we need to secure a training post

then iron and walls can come

[marble hatch]

To do more things in lessier amount of time

[warm cliff]

Hm, true

[narrow oar]

eh, the northern wall can be done same time as the camp

or well half of it

[warm cliff]

Alright, Tusks

[narrow oar]

yknow

[warm cliff]

I have a proposal to make

I ask you to vote for a Training Grounds on the second vote.

On the next one, we will vote the same as you do.

[turbid viper]

btw if anyone wants something from the factory just say it

[warm cliff]

And by second vote

[turbid viper]

or ask me rather and I'll intercede

[warm cliff]

I mean this

[marble hatch]

Here's the deal
This week we start a north wall and yer Training Post
Next one we either should expand on wood if we'll gain enough Tusks to sustain second sawmill or continue with a wall
Then we can rush walls and reinforce them with efforts, together

[warm cliff]

Personally I love that idea

That way we can not only utilize all of our ideas

[bitter glacier]

this conquest has been the best thing to happen to this city, after the arrival of the Vanguards of course

[marble hatch]

That one is on Nric, I offer a fair and square plan

[warm cliff]

But also reinforce each other

[bitter glacier]

finally, some unity among our people!

[bitter glacier]

sounds like a great plan

[marble hatch]

Fortified walls could be useful after we'll survive conquest, I would ask to get control over it after dealing with this danger

[warm cliff]

Wdym control? Like, control the walls?

[narrow oar]

i wouldve suggested this

[marble hatch]

Perhaps further help with expeditions

[bitter glacier]

we should build towers near the walls to shoot over them

[marble hatch]

have a permission to use them for other things for The city

[narrow oar]

the thing with the settlers is most of them are working in the close city bounds so they are not likely to get into combat

the builders being the obv. exception

[warm cliff]

I mean, unless it's violent or disruptive, it can be done I guess

[marble hatch]

I suggest finishing walls first

[narrow oar]

i would therefore say

[turbid viper]

field engineers?

[narrow oar]

Guards/Patrol first to get a fighting force
Medical Revs to get some Combat Medics
Builders to get some field engies for various stuff

the rest is just

good to have

[marble hatch]

That's on yer commander, but for now we have a fair plan, other things will wait

[bitter glacier]

ofc

[narrow oar]

have the scouts and the woodcutters get training because they tend to be out there

yknow?

[warm cliff]

Yeah, that makes sense

[narrow oar]

the tusks are generally last in line because

well

they have training.

[marble hatch]

They fight dirty, to train them in different way could harm our culture and cause coordination problems

[narrow oar]

being able to handle a rifle probably wouldnt influence your uh

kicking eachothers shins in

yknow?

[warm cliff]

I mean yeah

[narrow oar]

i was gonna suggest since you HAVE your own training that you just

get some additional help yknow

[warm cliff]

Mostly rifles, maybe few extra moves

[marble hatch]

We have 3 guns, in such situation any way to win is, well, a win

[narrow oar]

you dont need the 101 courses

[turbid viper]

dont we have like 5 guns in total, and one empty

[marble hatch]

(3 guns I mean at all in city)

[bitter glacier]

5 rifles and 1 unloaded rifle in the Vanguard's custody

[marble hatch]

Maybe, haven't tracked it

[bitter glacier]

no others that I know of

[turbid viper]

because SOMEONE didnt vote for the military industrial complex

[bitter glacier]

smh hms

[narrow oar]

WELL WE DIDNT KNOW YALL BUTT DIALED HABERS EVIL ALTER EGO

NOT NOW JAN

[bitter glacier]

I told yall we needed those rifles

[bitter glacier]

on you for saying alter

[warm cliff]

That is why I'm ordering (like not as an official order, more like an commercial order) an extra 10 rifles and ammo for them

[turbid viper]

i think we need a vote for guns

[atomic pebble]

Hey Wilson, can you make some heavy duty tools?

[bitter glacier]

@turbid viper is it possible to get 6 handguns & ammo built at the factory for future combat medics

[marble hatch]

Yet ye haven't thought that you can take more people off from coal mines now since we decreased need in coal with the research
Few extra Revenants is good too

[turbid viper]

ill make guns if its voted for

[atomic pebble]

Maybe then construction will go faster

[turbid viper]

@steep elm is this possible

[warm cliff]

@steep elm Sir, requesting a vote for the next week.

We need to change what our factory is making. We need to change whatever we are doing rn on guns and ammo.

[steep elm]

you can make a vote yourself for the factory to be used for something
or do it with no vote and don't take anyone's opinion

[turbid viper]

hmmm

okay

[warm cliff]

:0

Daymn

[atomic pebble]

Rip

[steep elm]

depends on the tool

[bitter glacier]

Wohn we have 6 rifles, and 26 vanguards

[marble hatch]

[bitter glacier]

that means we need 20 more rifles for a full force

[marble hatch]

Wohn seems suspicious...

[steep elm]

do keep in mind, only 1 kind of product per turn

[atomic pebble]

You guys gave the settlers full control over the factories 😔

[bitter glacier]

I also request that we make 6 handguns for combat medics

[turbid viper]

better construction tools. We can make guns later, this will boost our short term growth and allow for further production

[narrow oar]

we made our bed

now we have to eat it too.

or smt

[warm cliff]

Aye, that will be great

[turbid viper]

what?

why would you eat a bed

[narrow oar]

why not

[bitter glacier]

if I may suggest to you a priority for the factory
tools
rifles
handguns

[steep elm]

then it'd boost the ability that the settlers have of maybe double buildings in a turn

[warm cliff]

No, lesbian, we are not eating the bed tonight.

[marble hatch]

What'd we need to reinforce walls after completing them?

[atomic pebble]

I bet those tools can also be used in extraction, so it is a win-win if we dont have the materials

[turbid viper]

awesome sauce

[narrow oar]

-# why not :<

[steep elm]

you guys need to manually tell me if you want to produce something with the factory. well, "you guys" as in Wohn and any vote that he might or might not make

[warm cliff]

-# we need to sleep in them for now. Once we won - you can eat them

[steep elm]

iron

[narrow oar]

-# im not real yet :<

[bitter glacier]

(it was directed at Wohn)

[narrow oar]

im just the uh

[marble hatch]

Which we are seriously lacking on?

[narrow oar]

ghost of logistics present

[bitter glacier]

you should join the vanguards, today!

[steep elm]

not seriously, but the supply is decreasing with walls+factory working

[warm cliff]

Spread love with Vanguards today

[atomic pebble]

Steamlories for hastened exploration.

[turbid viper]

with what cores

[atomic pebble]

Those dont use cores, i think?

[atomic pebble]

Wilson the cores are out there, we just have to get em

[marble hatch]

I see... Do I know when my and Jince's expedition should return?

[narrow oar]

"TARRY YOU IDIOT YOU REVERSED INTO THE STEAM LORRY"

[atomic pebble]

Why did you guys let the tusks drive!!!

[turbid viper]

https://tenor.com/view/asgore-knight-gif-10095168295952009600

[marble hatch]

For now cores are not a priority, we have one right now

[narrow oar]

okay gang i had an idea

[atomic pebble]

We can find more ppl to put to work or even resources

[narrow oar]

-# What do we do to revolutionize combat

STEAM CORE POWERED ARTILERY

[steep elm]

expedition? if you mean in the log centre, it hasn't been launched just yet

[atomic pebble]

Next turn?

[marble hatch]

Hmm...

[steep elm]

yeah

[marble hatch]

Okay

[warm cliff]

Okay if we are getting an artillery I'm not going to be in charge of it

Or I will become a Bapoleon Nonaparte

[atomic pebble]

Then id ask for the factory to produce lorries first, then tools

[bitter glacier]

I'll put jtone in charge of it

[steep elm]

we can't make lorries for now

[warm cliff]

Great, let me be a guy who leads the Infantry

[atomic pebble]

-# You guys just want to crack one open an see the explosion

[marble hatch]

That'd destroy our iron production, plus we additionally would need ammunition

[steep elm]

not with the amount of settlers we currently have in the factory

[atomic pebble]

Mechanized sleds?

[steep elm]

you guys already have some better tools made recently

for the whiteout

[bitter glacier]

scouting is not the priority rn

[narrow oar]

just make these guys

[atomic pebble]

Speeed

[bitter glacier]

is that an automaton

[narrow oar]

no its a crab

[marble hatch]

Let's say investing further in it

[warm cliff]

If we get more people/resources - it can be useful

[atomic pebble]

We must have more cores, you guys dont understand

[marble hatch]

For now we're fine with Log

[atomic pebble]

This too

[steep elm]

7.2k messages

[warm cliff]

Those could be utilized to speed up the production, research, or just having more people to field once the battle begins

[atomic pebble]

-# Did we beat some of the communities chats?

[steep elm]

not yet

[warm cliff]

Maybe there will be 3-2 weeks left, then we might call out all the scouts even if they found nothing. Because we will need them soon in our city

But with 9 weeks to spare, I say - let them do wonders!

[narrow oar]

Jonathan "this might as well happen" haber watching what was meant to be his vacation home turn into a warmachine

[marble hatch]

I stick to fortified walls plan
If my group will return before conquest we'll attempt to get more Iron and resources
With more Tusks we'd gather some more wood

Ye people could assemble a second automaton to free some of people

[warm cliff]

That, ahem, unites people from everywhere

[steep elm]

the weapons industry will profit from this...

[warm cliff]

Speaking of automations...

Can we make one more?

[steep elm]

if you want to use our last steam core on that
you can

[warm cliff]

Hmmm...

@bitter glacier @dark marten Vanguards, assemble

Should we propose to utilize our last steam core to make an one more automaton?

[narrow oar]

tbf im saying

[marble hatch]

I propose, we lack in hands and it'd build better than people

[narrow oar]

not now

[steep elm]

Wohn is the one that would be able to host that poll

[warm cliff]

It will free more people to train and send to other duties, but then again, that is the last core

[narrow oar]

we could use it later for smth else

but like

[marble hatch]

Fair point

[narrow oar]

another automaton atm might not be the very best

[open pewter]

we could make the automaton build more houses

[warm cliff]

Do we really need more housing?

[open pewter]

thats a worthy investment

yes we do need more housing

[bitter glacier]

not at the moment

[marble hatch]

Could ye ping Wohn for this?

[open pewter]

you all are fools for thinking against that!
-# /j

[bitter glacier]

okay, so
robot (maybe)
tools
rifles
handguns (maybe)

[narrow oar]

shotguns (YES YES YES YES YES)

[warm cliff]

Yeah I was thinking the same

[marble hatch]

Walls, iron for them and maybe a watchtower

[warm cliff]

FUCK YEAH

WE WILL BE BALLING WITH SHOTGUNS

[fickle linden]

i SAY

[bitter glacier]

but rifles fit the vanguardian aesthetic

[fickle linden]

snipeer

[warm cliff]

We can make two sniper rifles

[fickle linden]

marksman rifles, can we do that?

[bitter glacier]

we aint killing an VIP, we're fighting a war

[marble hatch]

Not enough distance to cover if ye plan to hide behind walls

[narrow oar]

-# the thing i drew for your logo may be a shotgun i didnt really look at what weapon my reference was

[warm cliff]

I mean, we might end up killing a general

[fickle linden]

kill enemy leadership

[warm cliff]

With one like that

[fickle linden]

their ranks will crumble

[bitter glacier]

so one sniper

[fickle linden]

on a big tower

[bitter glacier]

shotguns are actually super good with distance

dont let videogames lie to you

[narrow oar]

tbf revs could be good snipers

idk why

[bitter glacier]

ridiculous

[fickle linden]

I agree, it feels right that they would hit targets at a distance, for some reason

[marble hatch]

Surgeon's perception or smth

[atomic pebble]

I will start digging the trenches...

[fickle linden]

our shotguns need to slam fire

[bitter glacier]

alright I'll let yall deliberate on the best course of action

just lmk what the consensus is so we can all be on the same page

[fickle linden]

we need some kind of artillery

even catapults could work

just something

[atomic pebble]

Machine gun when?

[warm cliff]

It's actually not that hard to make

I mean

We can make 6 barrels rotate

[marble hatch]

People... There's barely enough wood to cover your wants, not even speaking about iron
(Nric, we'd need nightshifters on lumber post and I think you with Wohn are now producing excessive coal since the last research)

[bitter glacier]

I took everyone I could off coal for patrols

but I'll place 5 of the 12 on the lumber mill

@steep elm

[marble hatch]

#1454153857092288763 message
Coal itself generates more heat
and no foreman for my people, only nightshifters would do

[narrow oar]

i trust yall with war planning

[fickle linden]

we should make greek fire

[narrow oar]

gonna read this in the morning

gnight haber city

[fickle linden]

aka early napalm

[marble hatch]

I have nothing to help with for now, I go to sleep

[warm cliff]

Yeah, same

Or at least I will go and watch some asmr videos

Sleepless nights are killing me...

[fickle linden]

my totally original idea that wasn't just taken from #📻│discussions is make a chokepoint like a very small entry point

[marble hatch]

Lets build a metal fortress

[fickle linden]

and funnel the invaders through there

[steep elm]

Well
This is kind of open terrain

[warm cliff]

Anyway, good night Haber City. Rest well, and remember

We have survived the Frost, and we will survive the War!

[sour stratus]

Harpoon guns?

[fickle linden]

we're gonna build walls aren't we/

[fickle linden]

impale tthem

like a fish

[sour stratus]

Exacly with a chain

[steep elm]

I mean, sure
If you want to make them in the wall entrance, go for it

[narrow oar]

oh one more thing

dont accept gift wooden horsies while im gone

[marble hatch]

[marble hatch]

We need to reinforce them too

I don't trust wooden constructions

[atomic pebble]

Make barbed wire and set it on the fields.

[fickle linden]

by decree of royal janestro, we shall construct a magma moat.

[atomic pebble]

We can force them to either funnel or waste time being exposed

[austere dock]

Haber can we make a basic QF 6 Pounder Anti Infantry Field Gun?

[steep elm]

Btw
The production is more comfortable now, but it's still just about what we need. I wouldn't recommend removing even more Vanguards from there

[steep elm]

We'd need more people in the factory for doing anything close to that

[atomic pebble]

Can we start rationing coal too?
This way we can free up the manpower.

[austere dock]

It'd be really effective to have a larger gun to break down their equipment, snowcats, or whatever they bring, and to take out several per shot

[bitter glacier]

killbox from rimworld, of course

[marble hatch]

I see

People, lets focus on walls and training, Wohn own a factory, so it's his own business

@bitter glacier I count on ye so we could with communual effort construct Fortified Walls

Train yer people for now, but soon we'll need a ton of resources

[dark marten]

What can we do with this automaton?

[warm cliff]

It can, as I said a little earlier, free some workers either on the extraction anywhere or, perhaps, even help with constructing

[dark marten]

Helping with construction would be big.

I’m for it if the big-boss signs off on it.

[atomic pebble]

I dont think we have spare materials rn

Build a new workplace first, then an automaton

[bitter glacier]

yeahhh idk yall

we only have one core atm

and we rlly need to stockpile metal for the wall reinforcement

it wouldn't be exactly helpful for the coal cuz we got 24 hr + foremen shifts on that

[verbal musk]

Could the wall decrease heat demand?

[warm cliff]

Hm, alright. Understood.

In that case let's keep the core.

[narrow oar]

@steep elm idk if this has been asked but, since the pipes made coal more efficient, how is our coal usage doing?

are we stockpiling more now?

[marble hatch]

#1454153857092288763 message

[narrow oar]

-# ah.

thanks harry

[sour stratus]

Its... enough

[narrow oar]

well

could be worse

[sour stratus]

Very much so considering whiteout

[warm cliff]

wait so it's like

it's a whiteout rn?

[sour stratus]

I beleve so i has been for some time

[marble hatch]

Still Whiteout

[narrow oar]

its been for a couple weeks now

whyd you ask?

[warm cliff]

so

we are enough when we are at whiteout

but

when it will end

we will start stockpiling yes?

[narrow oar]

frostlanders said that its gonna be "a shorter one"

[sour stratus]

TIme is relative

[atomic pebble]

About 6 months, very small... yes

[marble hatch]

A shorter one compared to a year-long one

[sour stratus]

Yeah

[narrow oar]

https://tenor.com/view/kasane-teto-teto-kasane-kasane-teto-doctor-gif-3301827803990235043

or alternatively

https://tenor.com/view/teto-kasane-teto-medicine-igaku-gif-2606119081841630303

[warm cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/teto-kasane-teto-32ki-satsuki-mesmerizer-gif-4049106824820565488

[marble hatch]

[narrow oar]

its beginning to look a lot like

and a 1

[narrow oar]

and a 2

[narrow oar]

🎉

[austere dock]

WALL

[open pewter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1341770570848796702/1371366360860463145/attachment.gif

all is lost

[austere dock]

[sour stratus]

Why?

[warm cliff]

On the contrary

All is lot

[austere dock]

[open pewter]

we needed one more barrack

just one\

[austere dock]

We have the bunker for that

[open pewter]

dont careee we needed one more barrack

[sour stratus]

Yeah this is just the begining

[sour stratus]

What afe ye planing

[austere dock]

-# nothing

[sour stratus]

Nothing is something

[narrow oar]

shucks, buster

[atomic pebble]

Uh

Liesel is in the game?

[narrow oar]

dont think she is

[austere dock]

I don't chat much in this channel but I follow it and vote in it

And keep up with the city ongoings

I don't think I have an official character yet

No Fiesel Lischer yet

[atomic pebble]

-# The underground (secret faction) is preparing their ultimate push towards dominon over the city

-# Clara isnt that your people?

[narrow oar]

-# sadly not canon yet :(

-# i would make liesel my right hand woman tho

[atomic pebble]

-# "yet"

[narrow oar]

-# because yea

[austere dock]

-# yeee the secret lesbian team

[warm cliff]

-# tlara chompson x fiesel lischer love arc when

[narrow oar]

hm

do i wait for new poast or do i go sleep

eh i dont need to wake up early tmr

waiting it is

[steep elm]

@here

The partial construction of the walls has started

we are collecting a bit more wood now with the Vanguards on the Lumberjack Post... but we now need to assign some people to be trained as combatants in the training grounds. That will be up to the Leaders; the people being trained won't completely stop working, but efficiency of their jobs will go down.

And, we will launch another expedition while the whiteout is still here.

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[narrow oar]

not posting the full sheets today because

nothing changed

like with the abilities

[open pewter]

-# Nothing ever happens?

[narrow oar]

and i cant be arsed rn

eh nvm gimme 5

wait we arent building huh

[warm cliff]

We still have 8 weeks

[austere dock]

-# Probably unlikely but not impossible

[warm cliff]

😔 but there is hope...

[austere dock]

-# its low cuz I'm taken and not single lel

-# at the moment at least lol

[atomic pebble]

Any description on these places?

The ice plains were a gamble right?

[warm cliff]

-# oops, sorry

[atomic pebble]

Since we have no sickness i will send 3 of my guys from the medical post and the 4 guys in the hothouses for training

(Just tell me if it is too much, i dont want to cause deficts)

Jincent himself will also participate, as long as it doesnt interfere with research

(:

@steep elm

Training injuries will be treated on the spot

[steep elm]

It'd fine

[steep elm]

When compared to the Tusk Cave, yeah

Right now we kind of don't know much about either options

[austere dock]

-# more of a kinship can happen :p

[bitter glacier]

all the vans in guard jobs should be trained if it'll be beneficial

[atomic pebble]

Even the ones guarding those settlers?

[bitter glacier]

I mean, haber says they wont be training full time

[bitter glacier]

@steep elm who is training them

is it the vanguards

[steep elm]

People are training togetger more than there being someone training everyone else

[atomic pebble]

How many turns until they are considered trained?

[narrow oar]

-# 10

[sour stratus]

-# Wait really?

[steep elm]

2

[warm cliff]

it was a right call to start training people right away

[marble hatch]

The Pit way

[sour stratus]

THE PIT ^TM

[narrow oar]

yknow

they might actually attack just after the whiteout ends

that may be what theyre doing

[austere dock]

I wonder what would happen if they attacked during the whiteout

[marble hatch]

Krillion of deaths

[atomic pebble]

Attrition

[narrow oar]

bit chilly innit

[marble hatch]

We haven't assigned people to training post

[narrow oar]

wait

did we decide who to train yet?

[marble hatch]

I dunno
We just built it

I can't stop since we need both lumber and that expedition going

[atomic pebble]

7 revs from my side

[sour stratus]

I-cy plains

[steep elm]

@here

our scouts go do their mission, and in the meanwhile, people are getting trained in the training Grounds. 7 Revenants and 13 Vanguards are already at half progress (the thing next to their name is kind of half of a shield [I tried my best]), totalling 20 trained by next week.

We continue with our efforts at fortifying Haber City as the settlers give us another construction bonus

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[bitter glacier]

everyone I've got in guards

[open pewter]

No house?

[warm cliff]

Vanguards for north wall!

[atomic pebble]

more materials

[bitter glacier]

northern wall and lumber

[atomic pebble]

so we can build everything

[open pewter]

True

[warm cliff]

Building 2 should be lumberjack then

[steep elm]

no

[open pewter]

boooo

[atomic pebble]

-# What if we vote for both north wall options

[open pewter]

Super tall wall

[steep elm]

you waste a building

[atomic pebble]

damb

3/2 wall dream is over 😔

[warm cliff]

I think vanguards and revenants aren't that skeptical of each other if you ask me...

[bitter glacier]

@steep elm once those 13 vans finish training I want the jobs to swap so that the untrained work patrol and train at the center

[steep elm]

ok

[open pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/im-nothing-like-yall-nothing-like-yall-im-nothing-like-yall-fish-fish-meme-gif-7279072448778168854

[narrow oar]

Copperplate font my beloved

anyway these posts keep getting

later and later

im going to bed

[steep elm]

I'll end next poll early so it resets to like

14 my time

[narrow oar]

uhh

[steep elm]

Essentially 5 to 6 hours earlier

[narrow oar]

how late is it rn?

for you

[steep elm]

20

[narrow oar]

oh alright

thank you

[narrow oar]

fuck yea sawmill!

[steep elm]

@here

The expedition has returned with 7 Revenants and 4 Tusks found in the Icy Plains. The scouts also found other minor recently broken down settlements that seemed to have been abandoned as there are no corpses in sight...

the north wall has been completed, and now we must-

-huh. it appears someone got caught in an evil act of sorts because they were unlucky with the dice I rolled... I wonder who discovered it. They might tell everyone else soon. Or maybe they won't.

Anyway, the whiteout seems to be calming down, and we must choose what to make with our factory.

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[turbid viper]

who discovered it

must be those damn frosties

if we won't know, then im assuming its one frostie group keeping silent for the other...

[turbid viper]

https://tenor.com/view/kung-fu-panda-dragon-warrior-its-me-kung-fu-panda-4-point-gif-12787045352870160956

@bitter glacier i trusted you, nric

and

yet

you spied on me

for shame.

for shame.

[turbid viper]

could I refuse to manufacture anything

[steep elm]

yeah you can

[turbid viper]

then i refuse to do so in light of the vanguards spying on the settlers

[steep elm]

people won't be happy but you can

aka tension might rise

[turbid viper]

also get your vanguards away

[bitter glacier]

my people had worries

they feared you were an inside force

[bitter glacier]

you threaten the safety of the entire city for one deed

[turbid viper]

you're the one that did it

not me

[bitter glacier]

my people pushed me to do it

they had valid concerns

[turbid viper]

then your people are to blame

and we now have valid concerns that we might be irrationally treated as an 'inside force' with the weapons that we might make

[bitter glacier]

maybe we shouldnt return the rifle considering we arent gonna get more

[turbid viper]

better for you to have 6 than 15 in this case

[bitter glacier]

we need every weapon we can get to fight whoever is coming

[bitter glacier]

you're the one whos been too stubborn to actually cooperate with everyone else

refusing to talk with the catanians from the cave

[atomic pebble]

What is the difference with the hadnguns/rifles?

[steep elm]

Handguns are cheaper

Less training required

Lighter than a rifle

[atomic pebble]

And probably have less range (or accuracy) and firepower 🤔

[steep elm]

Yeah, but still enough to do damage without having to carry a rifle everywhere

[sour stratus]

Oh damn we have the same number as vanguards

[atomic pebble]

Did the Vanguards already set up the listening posts?

[steep elm]

-# I mean, it's not going to matter since the progressbros are at each other throats right now

[steep elm]

Listening Posts?

[atomic pebble]

Aka Surveilance towers

/j cuz they are spying on folks

[steep elm]

They establish 14 of them while we weren't looking

[atomic pebble]

Good thing i have nothing to hide

[sour stratus]

LE GASP nric how could you do something so evil

[atomic pebble]

I think i can get us bows and arrows 😔

The one time we need progress and they are useless ...

[narrow oar]

aeugh fuck im still at work

[atomic pebble]

We finished training both the vanguards and the revs this turn right?

[steep elm]

Yeah

[warm cliff]

Now you just showed your true colors

[bitter glacier]

for the last time

my people believed the duke was coming to invade

[turbid viper]

i do not plan to be hanged by the rope which i shall manufacture

[bitter glacier]

and that the Catanians were some sort of inside force for him

• Wohn has had a history of being less than cooperative

[warm cliff]

I understand you being angry, but standing against our city

That's just straight up treason.

[turbid viper]

cool

[verbal musk]

Wait, Wohn's evil?

[turbid viper]

no im just not suicidal

[verbal musk]

But

[bitter glacier]

we also cant make progress on the wall this turn

[turbid viper]

if we're spied on by the city paramilitary, the logical conclusion is to not further arm them

[bitter glacier]

correction: you are the only one being spied on

[turbid viper]

yes

[verbal musk]

Wasn't the Duke's arrival announced by the settlers?

[turbid viper]

still

[bitter glacier]

for the safety of the city mind you

[atomic pebble]

Nope, encoded radio transmission

[bitter glacier]

its not my fault if the duke shares similarities with whoever is coming to attack us

[verbal musk]

#1454153857092288763 message

This is what I mean

[turbid viper]

'safety of the city' doesnt mean anything if we're going to be persecuted arbitrarily

[verbal musk]

I have a

Small theory

That Wohn is the Duke's right hand man

[atomic pebble]

Yeah but we dont know if the Duke = the conquest guy

[verbal musk]

Sent initially to pillage us

[turbid viper]

pillage?

[verbal musk]

But after seeing our city, I assume he either underestimated us, or didn't do that yet

[verbal musk]

I dunno

I'm trying to find any reason to think why you were sent by the Duke here

[turbid viper]

i have no weapons

how would i pillage

[steep elm]

The Settlers had said that they didn't know if the duke was even alive because they were stuck in a settlement of their city and lost communications

And, in theory, if they wanted they could have just used the Jewel to run over anyone when they arrived

[verbal musk]

First of all, we got a message from the beacon SPECIFICALLY made to help contact with the Duke #1454153857092288763 message #1454153857092288763 message #1454153857092288763 message

[turbid viper]

https://tenor.com/view/asgore-knight-gif-10095168295952009600

i dont think any frostland vehicle would be fast enough for that

[verbal musk]

What's better, rations for 3 days max? Or temporarily live there safely until you make contact with the Duke? And if you never contact him, you can always just, permanently settle there

I have a heavy feeling that Wohn's evil

[turbid viper]

youre crazy

[steep elm]

I mean, they could have just

Manned the hothouses for food

[atomic pebble]

I get that they were the ones to propose the signal and that probably is the cause of why the 'Conquest' found us

[verbal musk]

That's why it's a feeling

[steep elm]

https://tenor.com/view/conquest-stand-ready-for-my-arrival-stand-ready-for-my-arrival-worm-invincible-viltrumite-gif-6245258362361743117

[verbal musk]

And I'm not certain

But

[atomic pebble]

Its just that we dont know if the Duke = Conquest

[verbal musk]

I'll just wait to see when the Duke arrives

[atomic pebble]

We are so screwed 😔

[verbal musk]

You think some random barbarian would know how to use the beacon specifically made by the settlers, for the settlers?

[turbid viper]

anyone with a radio could do that

cant they

[steep elm]

Yeah

[marble hatch]

Have I missed something? Spionage on settlers?

[steep elm]

As long as they catch the frequency

[atomic pebble]

Its a radio signal, everyone with equipment can find it

[verbal musk]

Then uhhhh

[steep elm]

Vanguards were spying on settlers

[verbal musk]

iwsaionswai

[steep elm]

And got busted

And now settlers are mad

And won't produce anything in the factory

[atomic pebble]

Can we overtake the means of production?

[verbal musk]

Can't the vanguards just

[turbid viper]

we wont produce weapons

for now

[marble hatch]

I see...
But that's a fair price for settlers for their safety
Eye for an eye, in this context fits well

[verbal musk]

I'll not enter onto this actually, I'll just think about whether or not the Duke is the evil man

[steep elm]

No since we literally had a vote about the factory

Doing anything to disrespect it will make trust fall a lot since we're disrespecting what was voted for

Trust + tension

And tension is already going up anyway

[atomic pebble]

-# I told it was a bad idea.

[warm cliff]

With every word he's saying he's doing more to destroy our city...

[turbid viper]

we will manufacture weapons in a 'just-intime' manner for the defense

but not

so that

they are idle

and can be used actively on us

[atomic pebble]

Did we already get those construction tools?

[steep elm]

Yeah

[atomic pebble]

Hmm

[steep elm]

Hence the 2 double building turns we got

Second one only happened due to tools

[verbal musk]

Wohn, what about wall gun? I'm sure it can't be moved off the top of the roof, and even if it could be, it will be very hard to move

I get why rifles but

[turbid viper]

hardline

no weapons is no weapons

[verbal musk]

Damn

We're getting destroyed when the evil man comes🙏

[bitter glacier]

(because of Wohn)

[atomic pebble]

Would you be willing to make barbed wire and other fortifications?

[turbid viper]

yes

[atomic pebble]

We can work with that

[steep elm]

Are you removing your guards from guarding him like he asked you to do?

[bitter glacier]

I suppose

[narrow oar]

okay

i just read back everything

all of you are maniacs :3

[sour stratus]

:3

[narrow oar]

you, surprisingly, havent done anything wrong, tusks

@bitter glacier YOU, captain on surpreme justice should
stop trying to turn this city into a police state, and yes while the signal came from the settlers it could be reasonably believed that the OTHER further ranging signal couldve lead trouble here too. We know the settlers never used the radio tower and we know the signal is just duke on repeat, give them a bit of a reasonable doubt.

on the other hand

[steep elm]

Btw we could use people to work on the new luberjack post

[bitter glacier]

-# I was addressing concerns from my people...

[narrow oar]

@turbid viper YOU, concientous objector extraordinaire, KNOW that we are about to be under conquest soon, so WHY block the weapon production? i get that you dont trust the WALLIES IN RED but you do know that if the city dies SO DO YOU, Differences can be put asside for now, we can kill eachother after the obvious bigger threat is defeated

-# the wall guns can hardly be used against yall anyway.

GOD im sorry i just needed to get that out of my system

[warm cliff]

Darling

It's just

a game

[narrow oar]

dont call me that

[warm cliff]

Sorry

[narrow oar]

i know :3

its fun to be mad though

and i saw a lot of complaining in the last 2 hours so uh

[warm cliff]

I don't get it at all, but you do you then

[narrow oar]

my 2 cents

because jeez

get a hold of yourselves

[steep elm]

-# It's fun to [REDACTED]

[bitter glacier]

-# legitimate concerns...

[narrow oar]

-# spying on people is still kinda bad

[bitter glacier]

-# I'm really not trying to be evil just looking out for the city is all

[narrow oar]

btw didnt you literally call this act treason a bit ago? that seems a bit more serious than my response

[warm cliff]

Most of the stuff I say is uhhh

pompus

because I'm a pompus ass

:3c

[narrow oar]

isnt edward the pompous ass

[warm cliff]

He is in Polaris

[narrow oar]

with haber being the child soldier

[warm cliff]

But in Haber city

I am

[warm cliff]

He's also a child here

/j

[narrow oar]

HARRYYYYYY

Hows my favourite group leader doing

[steep elm]

Favourite group leader by process of elimination

[narrow oar]

-# yea

[atomic pebble]

;-;

what did i do?

[warm cliff]

what did you do?

[atomic pebble]

idk?

[warm cliff]

daymn

[atomic pebble]

im just asking cuz this

[warm cliff]

oh

well I think you are the second?

then goes nric

and then

wohn

[atomic pebble]

yay

[warm cliff]

@narrow oar correct me if I'm wrong

[narrow oar]

oh yeah you are second place

but that only bc their colour is more purple

[marble hatch]

I want to make...
19 people on Saw
1 remain in The Pit
3 remain on Log
And 2 remain free to watch what will happen in The Pit

Because I demand a sparring match between @sour stratus and either @bitter glacier or @warm cliff (For them to decide who)
1V1, until one of them gives up, without any deaths. A fair sparring match between a Vanguard and a Tusk

My own reasons to do so

[warm cliff]

huh

now that's interesting

[narrow oar]

why are you sending fish into the gladiatorial arena

[marble hatch]

I do

[warm cliff]

I wouldn't mind a good fight

[bitter glacier]

well pierre is big and nric is not at all

so I elect pierre as the vanguard representative

[atomic pebble]

how many more do we need to fill up the new sawmill?

[bitter glacier]

if hes cool with that

[marble hatch]

40 people for 2 sawmils

[bitter glacier]

I have 5 on the saw working extra shifts

I can take the 3 on catanians homes and 2 from patrols for the other

[warm cliff]

I'm fine!

[atomic pebble]

i mean currently and not the total

i want to know if i have spare guys or not

[warm cliff]

A good fight to ease the tension and to learn something new from another culture!

[bitter glacier]

go gettem

[marble hatch]

@steep elm Can I request it to happen and results to be revealed on next week?

[sour stratus]

To the blood pits then

[narrow oar]

no wait

juraj vs nric might work

because its

him

vs

[atomic pebble]

wow

[steep elm]

Yeah

[narrow oar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/916781295407878165/1377993280062623754/eat_carslot.gif

[marble hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/hunter-the-parenting-gif-27698366

[narrow oar]

him

[marble hatch]

Auraj is an Heir after all

[atomic pebble]

aquatic Slugcat vs Axolotl, crazy

[bitter glacier]

the real question is

would rivulet win a fight against survivor

[narrow oar]

yeah thats what im trying to find out

get in the ring

[warm cliff]

lmao

[sour stratus]

The blood pit

[marble hatch]

Also could I chart an another expedition with @atomic pebble's Revenants in seek for any usable technology for our City?(Well, prepare to chart it right away)

[atomic pebble]

agreed

[marble hatch]

A lot of ghost places lately, that's for sure

[steep elm]

Not now, wait a single turn

[atomic pebble]

can the scouts get one or 2 rifles?

[atomic pebble]

just in case

[steep elm]

Ask the vanguards

[marble hatch]

Okie

[warm cliff]

@bitter glacier

[marble hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/walton-goggins-fallout-fallout-ghoul-itaintcooper-ghoul-gif-13535529380554591497

[bitter glacier]

huh

[marble hatch]

Well, all Tusks are assigned, fun awaits

[bitter glacier]

alright, I'll fight in the ring of death I suppose

[warm cliff]

:(

[narrow oar]

files soon

im not home yet

sorgy

[bitter glacier]

Pierre will go the next time we have a fight

[bitter glacier]

unless you want to flip a coin for it, @warm cliff

this fight, I mean

[warm cliff]

You're the boss

I follow your word

[bitter glacier]

the coin has decreed that Pierre shall fight in the pit

[warm cliff]

[bitter glacier]

just in case of what

genuinely curious

I mostly intend on lending a rifle or a man to the scouts

[warm cliff]

What if they might encounter any kind of dangerous animals

or, and I hope not

any enemies

[bitter glacier]

right but I wanna know what Vince is concerned abt

[warm cliff]

that might atack them

[marble hatch]

I suppose Jince implies on possible ambush or finding out why 2 camps and Cave are ghost-like

[bitter glacier]

btw yes I'll lend an armed guard to the scouts

[steep elm]

@marble hatch map of frostlands for the scouts

[atomic pebble]

the "lack of bodies" haber keeps mentioning

[steep elm]

I believe they want a gun, not a guard, but talk it out with them

[atomic pebble]

i dont care if you want the guns back after but give it to them during the scouting

[bitter glacier]

I mean, vans are better combatants right?

[steep elm]

yeah but they are not good scouts

[warm cliff]

I say - give em guns

They have placed the trust in us, I say we should repay it

[bitter glacier]

I'm not against giving guns but one rifle in the hands of an okay guy vs in the hands of a compitent rifle user is a significant difference

if the guard cant be arranged because of the scout issue I'll hand over a couple rifles

[warm cliff]

They have few trained

[atomic pebble]

i will switch up roles of all my trained guys and start training 7 more, 2 of the fully trained guys will go to scouting

[marble hatch]

Red ones are more dangerous and grey one is not explored?

[steep elm]

red ones are not explored

Polo Plateau is gray because it's impassible

like, non-explorable

[marble hatch]

I see...

[bitter glacier]

we need to build airships so we can fly above it

[steep elm]

it's this thing that starts close to our city

[marble hatch]

Lets for now focus on building that wall

[bitter glacier]

after the war, of course

[steep elm]

there will be no war, it's just a friendly guy named conquest telling you guys to be prepared with a party since he's getting here soon

[marble hatch]

Maybe they will conquest our hearts with hugs

[bitter glacier]

oh, in that case, why doesnt he send us his address

we'll go to his

with 6 rifles and 100+ people

[marble hatch]

Friendly "Duke Conquest" arrives
50 artillery shots without any questions be like

[atomic pebble]

how many are currently working the sawmills?

[turbid viper]

party poppers

[steep elm]

20

but I think it'll be 29 next turn

with your 10 + new tusks

[marble hatch]

Considering your ten and
#1454153857092288763 message
Should be 29 out of 40(Plus guards at night but)

[atomic pebble]

do i have spare guys to set to salvaging?

[steep elm]

7 free people

that just arrived

[marble hatch]

They're... "Non-citizens" as ye call it

[atomic pebble]

• that one guy currently salvaging...

im not sure id want my ppl doing the night shift tho

[steep elm]

everything is fine

[marble hatch]

That's a thing for guards/catanians as far as I remember
We have plenty of places on usual shifts too

[steep elm]

only vanguards

[marble hatch]

Haber's institute basement with a deathclaw laboratory or smth

[narrow oar]

we go down there and its just

mariposa FEV vats

[marble hatch]

"So that's where all Haberians left"

[atomic pebble]

https://giphy.com/gifs/james-doakes-car-meme-12s2PXFPfJXUcHHjWR

[atomic pebble]

ok set the remaining guys to help in the sawmills even the one that was salvaging

[narrow oar]

AAAAAAND THEY LINE UP

as you can se

e

ive been busy :3

[sour stratus]

Very cool stuff

[atomic pebble]

Training finished this turn

And i swaped my guys around to continue training with the same work positions

2 of the fully trained guys went to the scouting center and the rest are spread out

[narrow oar]

changing with next turn

im too tired

[marble hatch]

Pit will train everyone

[warm cliff]

@steep elm does it mean we just basically skipped a vote on this week?

[steep elm]

Indeed

[atomic pebble]

Settlers did their own thing

[warm cliff]

[atomic pebble]

Now that we set up material production we could use another factory

Or expand the logistics center

[steep elm]

The factory is supposed to be like the beacon

Just a, one time building kind of deal

[atomic pebble]

What did the settlers built in the end?

[steep elm]

Nothing I believe
They didn't ping me about it, at the very least

[atomic pebble]

But...

Wohnnn!!!

[turbid viper]

well you need to tell me to do things

willing != will actively do

i dont read you people's minds

[steep elm]

You guys have

17 minutes

Until I start writing the next post

[dark marten]

We did ask you to make guns and ammo.

Please Wohn.

[turbid viper]

i already said im not making weapons

[dark marten]

We have an invasion coming.

[turbid viper]

due to factors which i said

[turbid viper]

well not completely

but

[dark marten]

What would you be willing to make then?

Ammo?

[turbid viper]

not as long as they will be idle before the 'conquest'

[turbid viper]

defensive structures

fortifications

not offense

[dark marten]

Then please make fortifications.

[sour stratus]

Man i wanted wall gun :[

[dark marten]

Defensive structures and wall guns could be useful.
People won't be able to move them if that's your worry Wohn.

[turbid viper]

no guns is no guns

[sour stratus]

But wall gun

[atomic pebble]

If settlers stay idle relations with the Revs will further decrease.

[sour stratus]

they are already sceptical about yall

And hate tusks for some reason

[dark marten]

Idle settlers will not make good relations with any faction.

[steep elm]

2 minutes

[dark marten]

The factory must make something.

It must grow.

[sour stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/satisfactory-factor-io-factorio-satisfactory-game-automation-gif-4780683496031639747

[atomic pebble]

Use the factory to improve the factory!

[sour stratus]

Self replocating factory?

[atomic pebble]

Soon we will get a Grey goo event 😔

[atomic pebble]

-# Haber is typing, we are doomed

[steep elm]

@here
tension goes up as the factory doesn't work, trust goes down as the people now know that the leaders are spying on each other.

and, another evil act was caught this turn. the group that caught them will receive the information, and they can decide whether to keep quiet or to tell the others.

we now should decide on more buildings and on our next expedition.

Hopefully we won't kill each other before the frost does it for us.

[The Whiteout has ended](#1454153857092288763 message)

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[sour stratus]

-# What about the fight?

[warm cliff]

also yeah

about fight

[turbid viper]

whoever caught the act, tell us

we're dying to know...

[verbal musk]

Haber, can we build the wall in the same turn?

[sour stratus]

There we go LMAO

[verbal musk]

as in two east walls 1/2 being a full wall?

[steep elm]

yes

[verbal musk]

woah

[warm cliff]

you ass

x)

okay success

I'm favouried by gods

[steep elm]

technically I'm the only god here in https://discord.com/channels/399667662625701893/1454153857092288763

[warm cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/frostpunk-captain-glorious-leader-order-frostpunk-order-gif-6902644393163477153

[steep elm]

the only power puppet can have here is to delete the thread

[turbid viper]

haber was soon banned from the 11bit studios server

struck down for blasphemy

[pseudo bay]

I demand either Illith to be present or

[turbid viper]

who's illith....

[steep elm]

Cilith Lharles

[turbid viper]

exactly

[warm cliff]

Become more then you are

Become a hero

Become...

A Vanguard!

[pseudo bay]

Matilda.

[sour stratus]

Matilda?

[pseudo bay]

[turbid viper]

Settlers are clearly superior

Up the Empire

[warm cliff]

You are a traitor

Thus, opinion ignored

[turbid viper]

i may be a traitor but you're a centrist

[warm cliff]

how am I a centrist? I'm a vanguard

I'm pro- and pro-

[turbid viper]

centrism in the mirror city is still centrism..

[warm cliff]

guys? I think Wohn is insane...

[narrow oar]

STOP SPYING ON EACHOTHER YOU MUPPETS

[warm cliff]

I don't think that bad act is actually spying

at least not now

[narrow oar]

well stop anyway

[warm cliff]

true

[narrow oar]

also

wohn wtf