🧊Frost Mini - Haber City

[marble hatch]

Each group is in trenches right now

[bitter glacier]

then put all the tusks in trenches it takes to put everyone else in a house

[marble hatch]

We need 4 houses

[bitter glacier]

so who would have thought

we should have gotten more housing

no, it definitely wasn't me

not the one who proposed a law which would increase housing capacity

[marble hatch]

Is next step is to put eggheads from Institute in The Pit?

[bitter glacier]

I'm starting to see how we could be at such high tension

[narrow oar]

tbf hes right

your people could handle the bunker better than others

[bitter glacier]

and yet they enjoy the safety of the barracks

[marble hatch]

@atomic pebble could ye fulfill 5 places on lumberjack post?

@steep elm I would want to stop salvaging and get 5 people off from a lumberjack post...
To put 5 on Log centre and 6 in the pit to be ready to help Scouts. Because I see we have to chart an expedition

Want to to search for a stack of wood to get it in the City

[narrow oar]

i love the negotiating yall do

its amazing to see

[bitter glacier]

notice he didn't say anything about the trenches

smh my head

[marble hatch]

I don't trust that we will do a house once my people will start to freeze, ye owe me on this one

@steep elm I also want to give a Tusk barrack to Vanguards and move part of my people to bunker, at least this will stop those wardens from crowding other's houses, and Revenants will have peace for a while

(But I will remember it)

[bitter glacier]

like how I'll remember this vote

[marble hatch]

I will build a palace if I'll find wood

[narrow oar]

-# note, only 4 are either homeless or in homes, might be worth asking the if their six homless want to join bc they get reasonably well along?

-# less out in the cold n all

[bitter glacier]

we have 5 in frostie homes, but vans don't mind sharing w/ Catanians iirc

[marble hatch]

No. You can see homeless Vanguards are spread in other people's houses

I'm thinking about tension of Revenants too

[narrow oar]

i

thats

okay i didnt see the two in the tusk home thats on me but

i was CLEARLY referring to the vans in the rev home???

anyway

3 (in van) 2 (in tusk) 1 (homeless)

means 4 settler spaces.

checks out?

[marble hatch]

Ye
That's why I give up one house, homeless settlers can cry about it or share some space with Vanguards

I'm putting bets on scouts

[marble hatch]

Yes

[narrow oar]

thank you

[marble hatch]

That's all my actions for this turn

Vanguards force to explore during whiteout

[narrow oar]

god i fucking hope this is over soon

[bitter glacier]

wdym we are all sick

[narrow oar]

whiteout logistics are a nightmare.

[marble hatch]

That's why I put a second group in Pit to jolt and help if something will occure

[marble hatch]

As I said before.
And your sickness was caused by incident, not us

I focus on figuring home dilema for now

[bitter glacier]

you want us to explore while we're sick?

[marble hatch]

Give a factory to Revenants to produce meds

[steep elm]

No hence why the use of food to heat us this turn

[marble hatch]

#1454153857092288763 message

[steep elm]

You have no foreman currently since all of yours got replaced with Settler foremen

[bitter glacier]

then what about the chart that says I have 4 foremen

[steep elm]

When the Settlers build extra stuff it's an extra vote by itself, not a duplicate of the first result

[narrow oar]

oh THATS why we had two buildings sometimes

[steep elm]

Those are guards that I forgot to rename to guarding stockpiles

5 revenants got sick and are being treated by the symbol beside their name

Or 4

5 in the sawmill

[steep elm]

You can only put 5 in the Log Centre from removing 5 from the sawmill

And 4 in the pit since you only have 4 salvaging

[marble hatch]

But I'll have 22 people

10 on sawmill
5 on Log centre
6 in the pit
And me in Institute

Or I miss something?

[bitter glacier]

can I have them rest at home all day or is that a given

also I'd like to self-impose quarantine on my ill Vanguards and try to keep the sick ones in set houses

[narrow oar]

could a institute member help in the field in emergencies?

[bitter glacier]

institute members are group leaders

[narrow oar]

i know

[bitter glacier]

but I suppose

[narrow oar]

im not that dumb

[bitter glacier]

at their own risk

[bitter glacier]

mb I wasn't

[narrow oar]

nric dont you yearn for the mines?

[steep elm]

You are right

[steep elm]

Given

[bitter glacier]

still this

until they get medical care at the post I'll have them limit to their own homes

I want their meals delivered to them

[narrow oar]

follow up question

if a group leader were to work and get sick

could they not "command" their workforce until they get better?

...this doesnt need to be important i am just

curious

[steep elm]

They can still just speak to give orders

Unless they are not keeping their group united

[bitter glacier]

is it possible to like

give a speech to the city

[steep elm]

Then their group is prone to splitting

[bitter glacier]

follow up, is it possible to give a speech with multiple group leaders

[narrow oar]

i see

[steep elm]

Possible

[steep elm]

Possible

The consequences are on you guys thpugh

If your group members don't like another group

And you still give a speech with them

You might lose unity

[bitter glacier]

[bitter glacier]

how much unity do my Vanguards have

[steep elm]

It is not a number

But

They seem good for now

[bitter glacier]

is there any effects from high unity

[narrow oar]

they give you more uh

good leader points

which is a very real thing

usually shown through uh

star shaped stickers?

[steep elm]

Easier to make stuff without people making it difficult for you

And you get no splitting

The bonuses is that nothing bad happens to you

[bitter glacier]

wdym make stuff

[narrow oar]

considering that they were one group at one point, i am not sure if the tusks like the revs

because on one hand

they did work together before

on the other hand

[bitter glacier]

revs appear to be

[narrow oar]

they made an active effort to NOT do that

[steep elm]

Actions and stuff

Hosting a spar, making propaganda posters, etc.

[bitter glacier]

I see

[bitter glacier]

so unity is basically willingness to follow the leader

[atomic pebble]

Eueee

Would you mind your guys leaving the rev housing?

[bitter glacier]

that's already been arranged

[atomic pebble]

All my remaining guys will go to work first on the sawmill then the rest will continue salvaging.

Not sure if scouting now will work... but that is the tusks choice so 🤷‍♂️

[atomic pebble]

@steep elm

[steep elm]

Noted

[marble hatch]

[narrow oar]

i do think that scouting isnt the best thing to do now

im not saying theyll die but

theyre probably gonna get injured, sick or both

[marble hatch]

Well, we need a medpost and houses in either way

[bitter glacier]

right because the best thing in an outbreak is to get more people sick

[steep elm]

5k messages

[marble hatch]

Kek, good job

[narrow oar]

this whiteout is bound to be out soon

i hope

[marble hatch]

I hope so too

[steep elm]

@here

The Tusks have decided to go back to the Log centre, their tenacity and resistance to the cold being the best we have; maybe even enough for them to make a new expedition during a whiteout...

For such an endeavour, we will make better equipment for them in our new Factory.

Thing is, Settlers are saying that they would be the best at such an workplace, and are demanding that they are the only group to man it.

They argue that even if it doesn't have the complete amount of workers in it, it still should be enough for our current demand of complex equipment.

Should we respect their wishes, as they do seem to be the best choice to be in control of the factory, or do we make it so the Factory's workforce is split between the four groups?
(a factory requires 20 people btw)

-# [past post](#1454153857092288763 message)
-# [next post](#1454153857092288763 message)

[bitter glacier]

twenty?!

[bitter glacier]

I do suppose we need to prevent tension

[steep elm]

Tusk Cave is where the Tusks originally set up a semi-permanent camp, they are more sure of there being leftover resources in that area

Icy Plains is more of a gamble

[warm cliff]

Then Tusk Cave is better option.

[turbid viper]

we're good at machines. Trust

[steep elm]

-# forgot to change it before, but now there's 10 revenants in the Lumberjack Post instead of 5

[turbid viper]

noone is better than them than us, in fact. except for Our Glorious Leader Haber

[marble hatch]

Maybe even retrieve something good for the City from Camp's riches

[atomic pebble]

The prision thing last 3 posts?

Free my Revenant!!

[turbid viper]

shouldn't have committed a crime

[steep elm]

he'll probably be out by next turn or the one after that

it wasn't that bad of a crime since he didn't get to eating the food

[marble hatch]

I hope ye'll produce stuff which won't result in causalities

[marble hatch]

"Still need 2 houses for my folks and those Revenants"

[turbid viper]

it'll be much safer than if production is split into factions

much more focus

and consistency

[marble hatch]

You better hope duke will bring some workers

[atomic pebble]

salvaging factories becomes the next research

[turbid viper]

also i dont want to be discriminatory but we're the only ones with experience in regards to organised industry

[marble hatch]

A W for me alr

[turbid viper]

the wards are more 'security and safekeeping knowledge', and both frostlanders i doubt had actual workshops

its shrimply the best choice for us to be placed in charge of manufacturing

[steep elm]

It's shrimple...

[atomic pebble]

no need for a workshop, just proper tools

[turbid viper]

its a manufactury

a proper one

if we wanted to use only tools

this isnt the place for that

different production methods and allat

[marble hatch]

I will build White Pearl one day, better than Jewel and with less steamcores
Man can dream

[steep elm]

-# The consequences of our choices

[marble hatch]

You better produce durable gear, mr. manufacturer

[turbid viper]

then vote for settler only

[marble hatch]

Where's Jaber's corner?

[turbid viper]

it will result in higher production effectiveness and thus quality

[steep elm]

That is not the haber corner

The other Gms are not in on this

So I made my own channels in my personal server

[atomic pebble]

dont he is tricking you

[marble hatch]

Peak

[verbal musk]

Our fate is seal

[turbid viper]

what is your argument against consistency and efficient processes

[steep elm]

I have a pretty good argument against it...

But I shan't share it

[marble hatch]

If he lies we will move Wohn in the pit instead of prison

[steep elm]

Wohn Jilson is thrown into the pit to fight for his life

[atomic pebble]

not the kind of efficiency we want

[turbid viper]

you're voting for worse quality buddy making my job harder

[atomic pebble]

you will provide us with mass produced slop

[marble hatch]

"If" is such a good word

[turbid viper]

better to have workers who know what theyre doing with their tools

results in less slop and shoddy work

[marble hatch]

I'm giving second option a chance

[turbid viper]

wow do you want worse equipment?

[atomic pebble]

they will sabotage the equipment, the settlers dont want us here.

i dont trust them

[marble hatch]

I'll see how it goes

[turbid viper]

why would we sabotage ourselves

our chance to live

more resources are better for all of us

[marble hatch]

Will see if this Icepick is durable or lie

[turbid viper]

THEN ALLOW THE WORKERS MAKING IT TO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING

[marble hatch]

I give it a bit less obvious vote, some challenge won't hurt

[turbid viper]

your choice i suppose, its your people that will have the products

[marble hatch]

Plus ye don't know how to disassemble Jewel core, so the Duke is an actual engineer as I see it

[turbid viper]

if you want it to be made by people seeing the tools and machines for the first time, your call

[marble hatch]

We'll see

[steep elm]

The duke is a real smart guy, surely he taught his followers well

[marble hatch]

Surely
Will ask him if he will arrive, depending on the result of Settlers' work

[turbid viper]

i refuse to take responsibility for any issues if all can work there

[marble hatch]

So you will take it as personal responsibility if otherwise?

[atomic pebble]

settler scouts will get the actual good stuff and only give defective gear for the frostborn to slowily get rid of us

[steep elm]

I thought of something really funny to do

[marble hatch]

We will reinforce The Cave as a Frostlander-only outpost

[steep elm]

But I'll wait at least until tomorrow

[marble hatch]

Nice to hear

[atomic pebble]

we probably would have left the factory for you guys... but you had to make a point of not allowing anyone but settlers there

[turbid viper]

yes

[steep elm]

I don't know if you guys will find it funny
But for me it will be entertaining

[marble hatch]

That's fine for me

[marble hatch]

Tusks will remember that

[steep elm]

@here

It was a small walk towards Tusk Cave... but when our scouts arrive there, it's not what they expected.

Instead of the few tusks that they had left to care for the place while the main force was away, they found a small group of 5 Settlers with a rifle... they won't tell us what happened there, but one can extrapolate.

They have also consumed a good amount of the resources, but it's not as much as we were expecting to have.

Since it was just a small journey and the path was already known, even with a whiteout, they have already returned... we should decide what to do with them, though.

2 Revenants have died while working at the lumberjack post, 3 Settlers have died from sickness (their workplaces have already been replaced, except the revenants since there's not enough of them)

our food stocks have also nearing being halved ever since we enacted the extra rations law
correction
-# [past post](#1454153857092288763 message)
-# [next post](#1454153857092288763 message)

[bitter glacier]

I want to confiscate their rifle

[turbid viper]

no

this ensures parity of arms

[bitter glacier]

I don't trust those Catanians to not shoot a tusk, and I doubt the tusks do either

[turbid viper]

are we going to base justice of speculation

[narrow oar]

-# civil war?

[bitter glacier]

can we hold a trial

[steep elm]

you guys have no ammo
-# at least not anymore from all we know

[turbid viper]

based on what

[turbid viper]

yeah it looks cool

[steep elm]

there are no witnesses and no proof

[turbid viper]

antique gun

[bitter glacier]

any evidence we can find at the location

[turbid viper]

decorative

[narrow oar]

innocent until Proven guilty

[bitter glacier]

okay well then

[narrow oar]

just because someone is running around with a gun doesnt mean they shot anyone

[bitter glacier]

I think we let the new Catanians be but take away their rifle

[steep elm]

it's the middle of a whiteout, any kind of tracks would be impossible to see

[narrow oar]

otherwise all Vans would be in jail by now

[turbid viper]

its an empty gun

what will we do with it

[bitter glacier]

a gun is a gun

[turbid viper]

use it as a baton?

[steep elm]

"we are completely harmless! :)"

[steep elm]

anyway, the coal complex would unite the 3 coal mines

and make them more efficient although require a tiny bit more of workforce

but, more efficient when compared to the same workforce in 3 different mines

[atomic pebble]

OY

how tf my guys died without even being sick?

[warm cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-fallout-new-vegas-dance-dancing-gif-6128875342791912116

[narrow oar]

acute death

[warm cliff]

like that i guess

[sour stratus]

Workplace accident?

[atomic pebble]

straght up dead? no injury?

[sour stratus]

well if you bleed out you are usualy dead

[turbid viper]

in defense

it was outside of the city

the frostlands are a harsh place

[sour stratus]

so you are saying duke is evil

[turbid viper]

that wasnt the duke

[sour stratus]

i know but he is also out there no?

[turbid viper]

this doesnt mean he's evil

he was being attacked

maybe he's a victim

of the harsh frostlands

[steep elm]

lumberjack post can cause direct casualties

[turbid viper]

and its anarchy

you gotta do what you gotta do to survive

[steep elm]

Think that a tree fell on top of the two and they quickly froze and died due to the whiteout

[turbid viper]

both the tusks and revenants most likely killed people in the frostlands

does this mean we should imprison them?

[turbid viper]

so why should you have a gun

[narrow oar]

okay look

i was bored

i didnt have a good overlook off who is jobless where so uh

i made a thing

[bitter glacier]

tusks trust us more than they trust Catanians, it'd be good to prevent conflicts

[turbid viper]

what gives you the right to solely hold a monopoly on weapons

[sonic pivot]

-# the rat urge to make a spreadsheet

[narrow oar]

why am i doing excel sheets on everything all the time?

[turbid viper]

you are a political paramilitary

[narrow oar]

good quastion

mainly boredom

[steep elm]

builders are also sick I'm pretty sure

[narrow oar]

ending myself brb

[steep elm]

no

update the spreadsheet first at least

[narrow oar]

okay

btw theyre called "the other haber files" in my files

i love doing stuff for projects out of boredom

[turbid viper]

@steep elm hmmm, can i add a faction trait to the settlers.

[steep elm]

tell me what you have in mind

and I'll approve or not

[bitter glacier]

release the haber files

[steep elm]

biggest leak of frost radio history

[narrow oar]

-# haber will sack me and if that happens i will never get girlkisser faction

[turbid viper]

Spirit of Steel and Steam

-# The settlers view themselves as the heirs of Industrial Britain, and thus seek to be the pioneers of heavy industrial development

• Settlers prefer working in industrial (extraction, factories) and mechanised workplaces
• Less likely to be involved in accidents when working in their preferred workplace type
• May improve their workplace if they are the only group working there and its of the preferred type

[bitter glacier]

"they view themselves"

they just think they are descendants from Britain

[turbid viper]

wait i forgot to change it to heirs

[bitter glacier]

did I get all my faction paperwork approved or no I lowk forgot if I ran the patrols past ya

[steep elm]

what you sent got approved, I'm pretty sure

[steep elm]

sounds good

[turbid viper]

Awesomesauce

[bitter glacier]

why don't we ask all the community leaders

[atomic pebble]

The Revenants will ask for materials to increase the safety of the lumberjack sites

[bitter glacier]

@atomic pebble
@marble hatch
considering that many think the 5 settlers in the cave killed the tusks there, should the Vanguards take away their rifle in the interest of public safety and cooperation

[atomic pebble]

give it to haber, he should choose who haves it

(:

[bitter glacier]

good idea

@steep elm can the Vanguards take the rifle and give it to you instead of holding onto it

[turbid viper]

this is a witchhunt

[atomic pebble]

@steep elm do you hear us!!

[turbid viper]

how about we just destroy all rifles in the city or place them in Haber's closet

[atomic pebble]

-# Yes

[turbid viper]

in case we get attacked by a frostlander gang

[bitter glacier]

we're placing your rifle in the closet

[atomic pebble]

destroying perfectly good rifles? wow wasteful

[turbid viper]

also public safety os irrelevant since it was a different environment

no law in the frostlands

youve gotta do what youve gotta do to live

maybe it was self defence

[turbid viper]

no

[narrow oar]

here you go

[turbid viper]

i boycott this vote

someones going to die over that single unloaded rifle

[warm cliff]

All power to haber

[narrow oar]

life could be dream

[steep elm]

there already are solution slowly being rolled out for the whiteout-caused issues
if you want to do so though, you can, but you'll slow down how early we can build other stuff

[atomic pebble]

did haber said anything to jincent?

[steep elm]

you sure can, but then Haber will have a gun
and remember, every action has a consequence

[bitter glacier]

...

[steep elm]

not directly outside of that one speech haber made at the start of the whiteout

[bitter glacier]

your not puppet, stop being ominous

making me triple guess all my choices

[narrow oar]

-# anyone play lobotomy corp?

[steep elm]

I tell you guys this because you haven't actually fully played the RPGs I usually write

[narrow oar]

-# i think i know how this ends

[bitter glacier]

okay, I say we take the Catanian's rifle until the end of the whiteout

Vanguards will hold onto it until then

that's my proposition

[turbid viper]

how will we know youll give it back

also its literally empty lmao

[warm cliff]

So how we vote? @bitter glacier

[steep elm]

a character lost an eye for free because the player didn't listen to me saying "are you sure" three times in a row, the people who play with me are now much more careful with what they say and do

[turbid viper]

what are we going to do with it

[bitter glacier]

ultimately they'll have it in the end, for now we'll hold onto it

[turbid viper]

its literally just a fancy stick as of now

[bitter glacier]

I suppose you'll just have to trust me

we have cooperated in the past

I'm doing this because I worry what the frosties may do if I don't, especially when everyone is tense during the whiteout

[atomic pebble]

tarry what do you think?

[turbid viper]

brother its an empty rifle

[atomic pebble]

temp measures?

[atomic pebble]

you guys litterally are controlling goods production

you will just make bullets smh

[turbid viper]

its less effective than any makeshift melee weapon we could have

[turbid viper]

from what

[narrow oar]

-# are you going to pull the brass and gunpowder out of your ass

[turbid viper]

what gunpowder

[atomic pebble]

materials

[turbid viper]

what lead

[atomic pebble]

chemicals

[bitter glacier]

continuing from my previous statement, the second option

[turbid viper]

what chemicals

[atomic pebble]

iron mine (might have a bit of lead)

[atomic pebble]

the ones they use in the hothouses

[warm cliff]

Got it, voted

[bitter glacier]

what if we didn't use lead for bullets...

[atomic pebble]

its honestly easy to make gunpowder

[warm cliff]

🫡

[narrow oar]

-# tbf i do like a good shotgun

-# but...

-# no we probably shouldnt...

[bitter glacier]

then why do you want it so badly

I'm doing this to avoid potential fear from frosties

they obviously think you are capable of manufacturing ammo

[narrow oar]

im going to bed

[bitter glacier]

gn clarry

[narrow oar]

please dont kill eachother by the time i wake up

please.

please.

[turbid viper]

it gives me a sense of accomplishment to collect items

[bitter glacier]

you can have it back after the whiteout

[turbid viper]

ok

[narrow oar]

eric might just be trying to parent a whole city

[bitter glacier]

I mean

I wouldn't say that

I am trying to keep relations between communities at least civil and the city from falling

[narrow oar]

which i do respect

but i must say

we cant really

imprison someone without any evidence

like

[bitter glacier]

which is why I'm not calling for imprisonment

[narrow oar]

"we think they did it" is not a reason for bloody anything

[bitter glacier]

I wanted a trial but there literally isn't anything

[narrow oar]

not directed at you

directed at those who voted jail

[bitter glacier]

it doesn't appear like there are bodies

[narrow oar]

letting them go free but confiscating the firearm is the wisest option tho

[bitter glacier]

I think the Catanians just forced them out

[narrow oar]

imo

[bitter glacier]

plus the scout report could be biased considering it's tusks who are scouting

[bitter glacier]

question, do you consider yourself a vanguard

[turbid viper]

so much for justice

[narrow oar]

wilson

we are advocating for your blokes to

NOT go to jail

[turbid viper]

prosecuting an alleged crime that allegedly happened outside of civilisation

with no evidence to prosecute it

[turbid viper]

the vote is a tie tn

[narrow oar]

oh

wait

why???

are you lot mental

im

going to bed

actually

[warm cliff]

Well maybe yeah

It's the closest to me

[bitter glacier]

cool

[narrow oar]

oh and one more thing

:3

[marble hatch]

Pit.

Will tell the truth after some wounds

[bitter glacier]

there's no bodies, the Catanians likely just forced them out

and that's unfair punishment

there's no evidence

[atomic pebble]

tarry what do you think about improving the safety of the lumbermills?

@marble hatch

[atomic pebble]

☝️

[marble hatch]

I think it would be good, can't see how to improve it sadly

[marble hatch]

They forced them out and we will force the truth out of them, I'm not going for murders

at least for now

[bitter glacier]

I still can't allow you to beat them for answers

I refuse to allow torture

[marble hatch]

Then I'll give time for proper investigation of what happened, and perhaps will return to cave after Whiteout

[marble hatch]

Did 2 Revenants died from cold or an accident?

[steep elm]

lumber accident

but the cold was a deciding factor on the accident

so technically both

[steep elm]

also @marble hatch you can make a trait for the tusks, like the others have
#1454153857092288763 message
#1454153857092288763 message

[bitter glacier]

how about we prioritize looking for random tusks milling about in the frost, if they were forced out they are probably heading for the city or another shelter

[turbid viper]

why should they be prosecuted for that

if they actually did such a thing

the frostland isnt civilised. there is no rule of law there. struggle and conflict for resources is normal there

[marble hatch]

#1454153857092288763 message

[turbid viper]

doesnt answer the question

[marble hatch]

Yeah, rn thinking of what to say Clara

[steep elm]

take your time

we have like

1 day

[marble hatch]

Because of de facto seizing Tusk cave?

[turbid viper]

okay and

[marble hatch]

[turbid viper]

is there property in the frost

its all based on strength

[marble hatch]

"Okay, why not beat them for that?"

[turbid viper]

because youre not in the anarchic frostlands anymore

[marble hatch]

Ye saying it to a Tusk

Flip-flop quotes

[turbid viper]

you can do your barbaric justice outside of it

just the same as other people can do barbaric actions to survive

[marble hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/el-oscuro-demencia-villanos-tonta-idiota-gif-23614325

My inner anger boils

[turbid viper]

cool

[marble hatch]

I'll give ye time to figure out where's dwellers of the cave

[atomic pebble]

Temporary measures to ensure no one else dies

[marble hatch]

For now we have fair amount of resources
@steep elm can I put Tusks from Log centre and Pit to replace Revenants on the sawmill? They're less tempered then us, after all

[steep elm]

sure

[steep elm]

this is week 32
I forgot to change the number here

[open pewter]

Two more housinh

[marble hatch]

Perhaps... How about?
Trial of steel path

• Injured or sick Tusks will become temporarily more efficient after being healed.

As for the views...

• They're focused on achieving more power for Frostlanders.
• More likely to help Revenants in their own way, due the "brother-like" bond.
• Prioritize their own plans of how to help the City.
• More seriously care about lost Frostlanders due them being part of the family, preferring "eye for an eye" rule.

[steep elm]

Hm...

For the first thing

Maybe "Makes them temporarily more efficient after being healed" but no longer treatments

[marble hatch]

Sounds good

[marble hatch]

Redacted it, like this?

[steep elm]

Yeah, looks good

[steep elm]

@narrow oar for when you wake up
Or in case you haven't gone to sleep yet

[marble hatch]

Welp, I go to rest for now
Ping me if anything

[steep elm]

Good night

[narrow oar]

im trying

[steep elm]

Lol

[narrow oar]

oh dam i should make a thing for group relation

you are so right

but not tonight

im not getting up

[marble hatch]

Rest well

Don't lead it to insomnia like mine(It's 3 a.m. actualy)

[marble hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-2099-canon-event-2099-across-the-spiderverse-atsv-gif-16753366998388919145

[atomic pebble]

-# They better watch their backs

[bitter glacier]

would you frosties chill out, the whole reason I'm having their rifle taken is to avoid a situation

there's no evidence of murder either

[marble hatch]

"You aren't in jail to protect people from you...
You are in jail to protect you from people"

[atomic pebble]

Where did those tusks went Nric? Why those settlers are keeping their mouths shut?

[bitter glacier]

it's entirely possible they were forced out

and mind you, silence is not proof

[marble hatch]

There's evidence of taking property from my comrades and I don't know where they are now

You better make them talk or something bad will happen

[atomic pebble]

being forced out is as good as killing them, we are in the middle of a whiteout nric...

[bitter glacier]

tusks were able to walk over to their little cave just fine

[atomic pebble]

Shelter is still needed.

[bitter glacier]

the remaining tusks from the cave are either wandering, sheltering, or heading for the city

[atomic pebble]

youu...

[marble hatch]

Silence is not a proof
In something we both can agree

[bitter glacier]

I refuse to use such methods against a group of people you only think are guilty

[bitter glacier]

bring me evidence and I'll personally arrange a trial

[marble hatch]

Which one? We are not worth investigation now?

[bitter glacier]

an investigation does not entail forcing information out of someone

at least not in the way you have meant

as I've said before, we should see if we can find any tusks near/around the cave

[marble hatch]

You can at least ask for information and proof

[bitter glacier]

Haber already said the Catanians were keeping their mouths shut & there's no evidence at the cave

I asked already

[marble hatch]

Because ignorance is a bad plant to grow

[marble hatch]

You know that their mouths will open, either due your people or mine

@turbid viper make them speak, for their own safety.

[atomic pebble]

everything that happens in the frostlands stays in the frostlands huh...

i see how it is...

[steep elm]

with the new equipment that was made in the factory*

[bitter glacier]

I swear to god if this conflict causes us to collapse from tension I'm never forgiving you all

I'm quite fond of this little side activity

[marble hatch]

Because they had where to go.

[turbid viper]

no

[bitter glacier]

if the tusks are scouts and cold resistant I don't doubt their ability to find shelter or the city

[turbid viper]

not my problem

[bitter glacier]

quite literally is your problem

if you dont

[turbid viper]

i shall not be pressured by thugs

[marble hatch]

You haven't even put them in jail, if you gonna just agree with silence I won't be able to talk my people out of it.

You have time.

[atomic pebble]

dont you see that inaction will only bring even more tension?

[bitter glacier]

I refuse to jail people without evidence

[bitter glacier]

I didn't do nothing

I took away their rifle in hopes it'd stop literally this exact situation

[turbid viper]

well we're about to be the ones lynched

[atomic pebble]

not from the vanguard, but we need something as not to let resentment grow

[bitter glacier]

if lynching happens to any side, I will send the guards after all perpetrators

[marble hatch]

Evidence is them sitting in our camp with weapons

Lack of cooperation says everything, so you better make them talk

[turbid viper]

happened outside of the city

is not subject to its laws

[atomic pebble]

so what it doesnt concern us ?

[marble hatch]

Make them talk. You're an authority in yer ranks

[turbid viper]

the alleged perpetrators and victims were not citizens

[turbid viper]

i do not see this problem as worthy to spend time on

maybe we should regulate this

[atomic pebble]

should we get those guys outside the city? then we are allowed to do anything?

[marble hatch]

Ye know... They're not citizens either...

[turbid viper]

judicial jurisdiction

[turbid viper]

they are now

[bitter glacier]

Wohn, for the sake of good relations, can you please just ask those five what they did

[turbid viper]

I already stated my opinion on this

Appeasing them will only delay issues

[marble hatch]

Is this your public opinion?

[atomic pebble]

Tarry i think we will need to drag those guys to outside the city.
It wont concern them if it happens outside.

[turbid viper]

My public opinion is that it happened outside of the city, and all involved were not even aware of its existence

trying to act as it was under our jurisdiction is stupid

[turbid viper]

go on

do it

[marble hatch]

Ye know that if it was a Settler site they'd be with the same opinion as some of my people right now?

[bitter glacier]

if it were a Catanian cave with the exact same circumstances I'd have the same position

[turbid viper]

https://tenor.com/view/far-cry3-shoot-me-pull-the-trigger-kill-me-vaas-gif-26376555

[marble hatch]

One day those 5 will be asked on sparring and end up with months of curing in medical appartment

[atomic pebble]

-# You are too soft Tarry...

[turbid viper]

what did the frostlanders mean by this

inciting mob violence

[marble hatch]

So we go with investigation.

Or in bad way

Choice on ye two

[turbid viper]

investigation that will lead to what

what do you want to achieve

[marble hatch]

Shut it, death is too merciful

[turbid viper]

establish a precedent where we can prosecute based off past actions in the frostland?

[bitter glacier]

the problem is that other than asking what the Catanians did there isn't anything to investigate

[turbid viper]

is that really how you want it to go

because i think that'll end up worse for you in the long term

[bitter glacier]

haber literally said there was zero evidence at the cave

[atomic pebble]

Truth, a lead to their whereabouts or even justice.

[turbid viper]

what would that justice be

[marble hatch]

I demand action. Or something to keep thoughts of my people from it for now

[atomic pebble]

idk did they do what we think they did?

[bitter glacier]

because taking away the rifle isn't enough?

[turbid viper]

have you tried reforming your people into not being blood thirsty cholerics

[marble hatch]

Because rumors are hard to wash away when folks walk around the City

[bitter glacier]

there's literally no evidence to build a case from

[atomic pebble]

taking rifles is a precaution, not an action.

[turbid viper]

justice implies a reaction

[marble hatch]

It will be enough for now.

[turbid viper]

im asking what would that reaction be

[bitter glacier]

then you should be satisfied

[atomic pebble]

we have a prison don't we?

[bitter glacier]

a prison for people who we know are guilty

[atomic pebble]

and we just want the truth

[turbid viper]

so we will from that point prosecute all actions commited before entering the city, yes?

[bitter glacier]

not for locking up based on speculation

[marble hatch]

Some guards will have to go back to Cave after Whiteout to ivestigate
And before this untie those 5 to speak

[atomic pebble]

The remaining tusks were meant to be there, colleagues of our citizens.

[turbid viper]

it doesnt change anything

[bitter glacier]

if they don't want to speak that's within their rights

[turbid viper]

its a simple question

will we or will we not

[atomic pebble]

if it is related to our citizens, then yes.

[turbid viper]

they were not citizens

[marble hatch]

Loopholes in City laws don't exist until people start to quetion it

[atomic pebble]

do you want murderers and raiders among us?

[bitter glacier]

do you want a city where you can be arrested for a crime on no evidence?

[turbid viper]

no, which is why I'm not a fan of the frostlander majority

[atomic pebble]

How can we be sure that in the next time of crisis they wont just turn against the city?

why keep quiet?

[atomic pebble]

Thats why we are asking for action

try to investigate ffs

[bitter glacier]

how many times do I have to repeat this

[turbid viper]

cant believe we have our own dreyfus affair

so proud of our city

[bitter glacier]

HABER HIMSELF SAID THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE AT THE CAVE.

THE ONLY "EVIDENCE" THERE IS A RIFLE I ALREADY CONFISCATED AND A RUMOR BACKED BY NOTHING.

[marble hatch]

I'm already generous, with an allowance they'd be dead in those caves where we found them. So better put efforts or start patrooling harder

[turbid viper]

you cant satiate their thirst for blood

[bitter glacier]

how am I supposed to patrol harder with strained workforce

[marble hatch]

You can't satiate their thirst for blood

[turbid viper]

hmmm
ill see what the factory can do

[turbid viper]

brother you're the one implying violence

[bitter glacier]

is it impossible for you three to just cooperate

[marble hatch]

We'll see what next week will be, and then decide our plans for this

[bitter glacier]

Wohn all you need to do is ask those five what they did

you two frosties need to stop threatening him or he'll just get uncooperative

[turbid viper]

i will not appease the thugs

being threatened with violence many times does not make me confident that it will resolve things

[atomic pebble]

"First they came for the Tusks, and I did not speak out because I was not a Tusk.
Then they came for the Revenants, and I did not speak out because I was not a Revenants.
Finally, they came for the Vanguard, and there was no one left to speak for me."

[bitter glacier]

literally no one is coming for anyone

if anything, it's the opposite

[marble hatch]

The only brother for a Tusk is a Revenant

We risked it through Whiteout and that's how you pay back

[bitter glacier]

you guys wanna throw them in jail based on no evidence

[turbid viper]

i do not trust the "We Love Violent Sports" people to act civil

[marble hatch]

You want to give them complete freedom from quetions on no evidence

[bitter glacier]

I want you to tell me when and where Haber said there was potential evidence

[turbid viper]

figure of speech

[atomic pebble]

Circumstantial evidence exists you know...

[marble hatch]

I know

[atomic pebble]

why were they there? and why wont they speak?

[turbid viper]

we're making a protective neighbourhood wall after the whiteout

around ourselves

[marble hatch]

From what?

[turbid viper]

from you lot

[atomic pebble]

Circumstantial evidence:

"Unlike direct evidence, which supports a claim without needing additional inference, circumstantial evidence requires reasoning to establish a fact. It is also known as indirect evidence, providing insights that can lead to reasonable inferences about a circumstance or event."

[turbid viper]

saying that the vanguards should "patrol harder" in relation to vigilante justice is a safety concern

[bitter glacier]

@steep elm whatever your writing down for the post I'd like to push through either prep or notions of prep for some of my guards to go to that cursed cave and see for themselves if there is any evidence

[marble hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-2099-canon-event-2099-across-the-spiderverse-atsv-gif-16753366998388919145

[turbid viper]

it is the logical course of action to take preemptive measures to protect against it

[atomic pebble]

How about we ask Haber to choose the best course of action?

[marble hatch]

Vote on action?

[atomic pebble]

ask for Haber to give his own directive on how to proceed on this dilemma the existing groups in the city are facing

[marble hatch]

Fair one

[turbid viper]

What if there were no Tusks at the cave

What if this is all a setup

no bodies... no one knew about or has seen them but the Tusks...

a false flag incident

far off... but its still a theory..

a frost theory...

[marble hatch]

Let's see what our leader Haber will say, and will watch on how things will go

[marble hatch]

Kinda

[steep elm]

@here

The new coal complex is up and running... and it seems like it is completely fulfilling our cities' coal demand.

Truly a good sight to see... meanwhile, the Vanguards announce that, when the whiteout ends, they'll head to Tusk Cave to ascertain if the Settlers there actually did anything bad... but for now, they walk free, angering the frostlanders a tiny bit.

Regardless, we have to make a new choice regarding what we are producing in the factory next...

-# [past post](#1454153857092288763 message)
-# [next post](#1454153857092288763 message)

[steep elm]

1st one is to fix the hothouse situation

2nd one is for the Vanguards, could reduce tension as they become more powerful and make it so the people feel safer

+, the funny thing I said earlier:

you can now do... bad acts

essentially, if you want to do something a bit more evil that you know the others wouldn't like a lot... you can DM me about it
but try to keep all other discussions here, in this channel. my DMs are JUST for evil things, and even then, you might get caught depending on your idea

and evil acts are not mandatory, you guys can all be virtuous angels if no one wishes to use it... but then again, do you fully trust the others to not do it too?

The side characters that the leaders allowed into the game can also partake in these, be it against their leader or against another group

@dark marten, for example

[marble hatch]

Should keep my folks away from those Settlers for now...

Maybe I can add one more Tusk to the pit and hold another sparring match? Would release some steam if it's left in them

A sudden silence

[narrow oar]

okay so

its good that the crisis has been averted for now

-# for now being the main word here

also question

what the fuck is the pit

[marble hatch]

The Pit

[narrow oar]

yea

whats it for

[marble hatch]

Both fighting ground and a place to jolt and help people on expeditions

[narrow oar]

ah

fighting pit

[marble hatch]

[bitter glacier]

sigh... gonna be working overtime to keep this city together, aren't I?

[narrow oar]

right heres what we are looking at

im doing some work to actually make it pretty to look at

:3

[bitter glacier]

the hothouses aren't having that bad a situation are they

like 50% efficiency & the stockpile from before

[bitter glacier]

I urge my Vanguards to not do anything to spike tensions and maintain the peace. That's what we do.

[bitter glacier]

lmao I don't think I'll ever have idle Vanguards

[narrow oar]

too minmaxy?

[bitter glacier]

I like it

[steep elm]

technically they only need double workforce, something that is already "solved" by putting the revenants there

[narrow oar]

one small issue

idlers are like

not that bad for you

[bitter glacier]

yeah ik it's just that all my people are stretched thin

& no one likes it when I recruit more people

[narrow oar]

at a certain point, fuck em

[bitter glacier]

-# even if they have surplus workforce smh smh

[marble hatch]

We kinda going to start running out without rationing

[narrow oar]

like you are the uh

second highest ranks

but if you were smaller noone would see issues

[bitter glacier]

aren't we rationing though

[marble hatch]

We are

[bitter glacier]

good

no problem

[marble hatch]

We can't do it for eternity though

[bitter glacier]

I'll keep men posted on the stockpiles to ensure our supplies aren't stolen from

again

[bitter glacier]

we should get Pierre in the vanguards at some point

swear him in

[marble hatch]

Looks amazing

[narrow oar]

:3

[bitter glacier]

-# ooo I should actually come up with an oath for the Vanguards, would make sense considering we're essentially the guard force of the city

[narrow oar]

50 MORE ABILITIES FOR THE VANGUARDS

[bitter glacier]

[narrow oar]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-cat-dancing-kitten-60fps-boogie-cat-gif-24303276

[bitter glacier]

what can I say, I'm very invested

[narrow oar]

wait

SINCE WHEN IS MY NAME LESBEEN

JANESTRO

[bitter glacier]

& this'd probably be more for unity, maybe modify a trait

@steep elm thoughts?

[steep elm]

it'd only be an unity thing

[bitter glacier]

yeah that's what I was thinking

increased unity plus negates any unity loss from recruiting I might have

[narrow oar]

btw, any of you leading dorks want any changes to your pages

any pages to your changes

any panges to your chages

the fun is just starting

the start is just funning

[bitter glacier]

I think it'd be cool to add that the Vanguards are responsible for manning the prison at a 3 vans to 10 prisoner ratio

and I was gonna say smth about adding the effects of patrol but there might not be space atp

[marble hatch]

Maybe I with my "family" would think more about Vanguards if they'll succeed in investigation

We'll see

[narrow oar]

at this point im gonna need more space for you anyway

then again

its not like this cant be done

[bitter glacier]

I like to imagine the one vanguard and one prisoner are just chilling in the prison

[bitter glacier]

gah, then I'd ruin the scale for everyone else. I can do with keeping some stats secret

[narrow oar]

well then they just have to make more stats themselves

:3

[atomic pebble]

Should all groups make their own abilities?

[narrow oar]

well apparently

[atomic pebble]

I have some remaining Revs idling 🤔

[bitter glacier]

if you want I got the patrol stats w/ me but I for sure want that I'm responsible for the prison

[marble hatch]

You're a part of The family, Jince. Officialy now

[bitter glacier]

do I have to make an actual oath cuz I'm willing to do that even if it's just flavor text

[atomic pebble]

i think i will set my guys to salvage more materials

[marble hatch]

Hm...
Perhaps I can ask to add the views? #1454153857092288763 message

[steep elm]

the prisoner already got released

[bitter glacier]

can we have him back for a little

for a hangout

[marble hatch]

Imagine Vanguard coming to ye and

[marble hatch]

My people are busy with very necessary stuff

[narrow oar]

will do

[marble hatch]

Dankee

[bitter glacier]

-# german 🫵

[marble hatch]

I would add "Seek for marvels in the frostlands" just as a view

[marble hatch]

-# Non

[narrow oar]

-# warum nicht :3

[marble hatch]

-# Not german, know a few words only

[bitter glacier]

-# smh my head

-# me too

[marble hatch]

Anyway, today I go to sleep

[bitter glacier]

goodnight Tairy

[marble hatch]

Can ye note this one please, @steep elm

[marble hatch]

[steep elm]

Already noted

[narrow oar]

youve got one bloke left

[atomic pebble]

wtf did you do to them?

Claaara

what are all the group relation indicators?

[bitter glacier]

wdym

[narrow oar]

in your freee workforce

[atomic pebble]

thkssss

[narrow oar]

oh

heres yours

want me to change them?

i just guessed basically

[atomic pebble]

why would he want to hang out ?

[bitter glacier]

funzies

[atomic pebble]

no, its good

i just want to know the indicator scales

brotherly isnt a FP2 relation 😔

also maybe add a Haber relation thing?

[narrow oar]

uhhhhhh

[bitter glacier]

special for you two

[narrow oar]

yeah sure ill come up with a scale

[bitter glacier]

I have a scale for the zeitgeist affinity

[narrow oar]

oh sure maybe gimme that and uh

ill adjust it if need be

[bitter glacier]

Neutral
Leaning
Favoured
Aligned
Committed
Devoted

[atomic pebble]

ill think up on a name for the things my group excels at, like Nric Disciplined

[narrow oar]

okay!

[bitter glacier]

that's what I've been using for now

[narrow oar]

well we would need another direction really

[bitter glacier]

would we though

being for one implies opposition to the other

though vans prioritize working together over beliefs (hence leaning)

[narrow oar]

i meant for like

group relation

[bitter glacier]

o

yes that makes

that makes sense

I could draft ideas

we could steal from fp2

with a couple extra statuses that would be unique to certain groups

like brotherly between the frosties

[narrow oar]

• Hostile
• Hating
• Disliking
• Skeptical
• Neutral
• Liking
• Favoring
• Respected
• Brotherly
• Allied

maybe?

[bitter glacier]

perhaps

I was thinking Irreparable for the rock bottom

but maybe that'd be a special status

& we need a hostile status

maybe replace resenting with hostile and devoted with allied

[narrow oar]

okay

[atomic pebble]

brotherly being between favouring and admiring?

[narrow oar]

okay

[atomic pebble]

favoring isnt lower than liking?

-# idk honest question

[bitter glacier]

I think that choice is based on my zeit affinity scale

[atomic pebble]

leaning makes more sense tru

[bitter glacier]

replace admiring with respecting and put it between brotherly and favoured imo

[narrow oar]

this is good

no more bets

[bitter glacier]

aight cool

[narrow oar]

@marble hatch

also why is your name hairy

[bitter glacier]

Janestro I presume

[narrow oar]

checks out

[bitter glacier]

@steep elm you didn't pin the post

[narrow oar]

https://tenor.com/view/kasane-teto-teto-kasane-kasane-teto-doctor-gif-3301827803990235043

[bitter glacier]

I'm just noticing that the faction icons are layered on top of the cells

imo it'd look better if it looked like the icons were in one big cell

(if possible)

[narrow oar]

i tried that and it looked kinda

ass

im sorry

[bitter glacier]

it's cool

[narrow oar]

like i dont

like this

[bitter glacier]

it's good dw, I was merely suggesting, not demanding

[narrow oar]

https://tenor.com/view/shiggy-wiggy-teto-kasane-igaku-gif-14087323861699692610

thats the wrong one hold on

no nvm

doesnt get better than that

[narrow oar]

anyway

better heat pipes!

thats probably the better option

we dont need more guns

[bitter glacier]

@warm cliff you know what you have to do...

[narrow oar]

okay

i KNOW you really want guns

but

dont you have enough already?

also wouldnt that be kinda uhhh

coming off as bad

especially after confiscating the settlers rifle?

also also

heat pipes???

because of yknow

the whiteout??

you can get guns later maybe but like

not now???

[turbid viper]

@steep elm If the weapons option passes, I'd like to put two of my remaining settlers as lookouts (alternating shifts) on the factory to prevent any attempts of breaking in and stealing the products

and if possible, the ammunition should be manufactured only after the guns (and after they're confirmed to not be missing)

[marble hatch]

Nice job

[warm cliff]

do i?-

oh wait

WAIT

YES

[bitter glacier]

YEAH

[bitter glacier]

our food situation is not dire

[bitter glacier]

haber says that the more rifles I have the safer the people feel

[bitter glacier]

I'm planning to give the Catanians rifle back after the investigation, after the whiteout

it's what I promised Harrison

besides

what's 1 rifle to 15

[sonic pivot]

they cant be trusted with a weapon

[bitter glacier]

well they currently don't have one so problem solved

[marble hatch]

hey coop
Why won't you ask Jince to join the family?

[sonic pivot]

what family

[bitter glacier]

or you could join the awesome Vanguards

[marble hatch]

#1454153857092288763 message
Ye can become a side character

[sonic pivot]

wha...

[bitter glacier]

with Sones Jtone and unofficially pierre

[sonic pivot]

i missed some developments in haber city im not fully sure whats going on

besides isnt the city like about to fall

[marble hatch]

It won't fall

[bitter glacier]

I refuse to allow that

and we need YOUR help

[sonic pivot]

thats why you need more guns

[marble hatch]

I need a house and more food

[narrow oar]

-# i need a fucking break from it all

[turbid viper]

you also promised that expedition support for the recruitment remember about that

many obligations mr van guard

[sonic pivot]

-# betray wohn

[turbid viper]

it will not go well

[sonic pivot]

but it would be fun

[turbid viper]

https://tenor.com/view/you-cannot-ragebait-me-heart-twitter-reaction-gif-cat-gif-16396486465647525728

im the second most mentally stable faction here and yet you want to betray me

[sonic pivot]

true we should kill the remenants or whatever was tarrys group first

[turbid viper]

Thats jincents

[sonic pivot]

tusks then

[turbid viper]

Tusks are Tarrys

[bitter glacier]

ykw if all the faction leaders could come to me with the promises I've made that'd be great

cuz I'll write em down

current list:

• give Wohn their rifle back after post-whiteout investigation
• expedition support for whoever asked I don't remember
• I think smth else idk

[bitter glacier]

who's the first

[marble hatch]

I asked expedition support from Jince after taking places from the sawmil

Ye gave a promise to solve quetions about settlers after Whiteout with investigation

[bitter glacier]

I thought there was also smth about an expedition with jincent

between me and him

maybe that was pre whiteout

[marble hatch]

Well, that's a quetion for Jince

[marble hatch]

I see

[turbid viper]

You

[sour stratus]

Third*

[marble hatch]

Yeah, Revenants on the second one

[sour stratus]

Honestly tusks and vanguards are the most normal factions

[marble hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/new-vegas-gif-22722205

[sour stratus]

What does that mean

I have not played fallout

[marble hatch]

Would ye want to be one of us?

[bitter glacier]

or one of us :>

[bitter glacier]

aight @steep elm I've got an oath if that's something of importance/wanted

aside from that, considering we're still in the whiteout and I can't send my guards to the cave, I'd like to make a public statement as leader of the Vanguards to protect everyone in the city

[sour stratus]

Im split

[marble hatch]

Fair

[sour stratus]

Your faction is merit but vanguards are teamed up with settelers

[bitter glacier]

Vanguards:
Government: Order - Committed
Survival: Progress - Favoured
Economy: Equality - Leaning
Society: Neutral

pretty sure Catanians are prog and trad all the way

gvmt is a category I invented btw idk if anyone else has views on that

[sour stratus]

Evil

[bitter glacier]

so the answer is clear

Vanguards

[turbid viper]

we're against getting lynched

[bitter glacier]

we aren't allied we just happen to share ideas on survival

[turbid viper]

wow

[bitter glacier]

and I've been trying to cooperate with everyone

[turbid viper]

after all we did

smh my head

[bitter glacier]

including the Catanians

it just happens that the Catanians were negotiated with more than others

[turbid viper]

the frosties are in cahoots, nric

[bitter glacier]

speaking of which, would it be possible to get a couple tusks to help lead my guards to the cave, in order to prevent any accidents or anything, @marble hatch
once the whiteout ends ofc

[bitter glacier]

I'm not teamed up with anyone, I'm trying to help everyone

catanians and frosties alike

that's what the Vanguards do

[turbid viper]

btw am i still getting that gun back after the whiteout

in light of the 'we can make ammunition' thing

[bitter glacier]

I do plan to give the rifle back after the investigation, regardless of evidence found or not

but if we find any evidence that smth happened I'll have to ask Haber to arrange a trial for those five

[warm cliff]

I'm leaving vanguards if they will be compleatly commited to equality

Untill then I'm fine

[marble hatch]

Nah, Tusks are family, so we both have equality and merit elements

[bitter glacier]

refer to the scale above regarding zeit affinity

[warm cliff]

do we have that scale?

[marble hatch]

Once the Whiteout ends

For now I lack in people

[bitter glacier]

here

[warm cliff]

if yes please then show to me please because I dunno anything

oh

OH

[bitter glacier]

created by yours truly

[warm cliff]

No we are actually at great position

That amount of equality? Not only I can work with that, I actually like it

[bitter glacier]

I find it likely that affinities can change over time

[turbid viper]

i will ask again, does this mean that we will from now on prosecute all crimes committed prior to entering the city