🧊Frost Mini - Haber City

[turbid viper]

people do not love criminals

im replacing the ones you removed

[warm cliff]

Execution can rise tension

[verbal musk]

People don’t love criminals, so they won’t happen. B

Nvm

[icy quiver]

what if haber commits a crime

[verbal musk]

Wilson said it

Sbehehdlwkwnrbf

[bitter glacier]

then I do a coup and take over the city

[verbal musk]

No purpose in continuing the talking

I see prisons will win anyways

[icy quiver]

but that would be a crime tho

[turbid viper]

@atomic pebble @marble hatch we need a temporary coalition against that

[bitter glacier]

a crime in the name of justice, thus a justified crime

[steep elm]

more like, for now, nothing is really threatening him or the actual city, since nothing is going to become actually worse (the foremen are being replaced after all)
-# if anything, infighting makes the population trust him more than the group leaders

[marble hatch]

And I guess I'm playing uno with Jincent and Haber in the Institute now

[verbal musk]

Scary

[icy quiver]

the law doesnt have exemptions for justified crimes tho

[bitter glacier]

look, I'm the one trying to keep us afloat here

[steep elm]

• everyone

[verbal musk]

Actually

[icy quiver]

how can we float, the water froze into ice

[turbid viper]

votes for reintegration

[verbal musk]

These factions bad

Where are the alleyes

[bitter glacier]

its the best option, the first two decrease our population and the last is just bad

[steep elm]

if you get a group exiled, another appears in its place

[marble hatch]

I'm caring for people

And warning is already a suitable punishment

[verbal musk]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-thinking-monkey-thinking-think-money-gif-9734025314392564509

That will happen by itself

I’ll just wait

[bitter glacier]

Wohn refused to put foremen on the new mine despite his unemployed being the most

[steep elm]

it's in those who are not leader's interest to put the leaders against each other in case they want another faction in power or for themselves to become a leader

[turbid viper]

what new mine

[steep elm]

coal mine gamma

[bitter glacier]

the third one

[icy quiver]

Stranjros Survivors

[atomic pebble]

Replace???

[bitter glacier]

and you didnt put anyone on the Vanguard shift for the second mine when it was built

[verbal musk]

The alleyes shall be real

One day

[steep elm]

foreman

not the workers

[atomic pebble]

Coup against Haber?

[steep elm]

there are technically 3 foremen spots in the mines right now
1 in coal mine beta and 2 in coal mine gamma

[bitter glacier]

which I can't man because I have to prepare for the prison

[atomic pebble]

Btw leave the poor Revenants stockpile their own resources smh

[steep elm]

you can make a statement about the criminal if you want

[bitter glacier]

they are OUR resources and stealing WILL be punished

https://tenor.com/view/meme-our-now-gif-21036569

[steep elm]

if they are our how can one steal it?

[bitter glacier]

by taking it for themself

[steep elm]

but its already

[bitter glacier]

away from the city and towards their own

[steep elm]

theirs

[bitter glacier]

it is property of the city

[atomic pebble]

We litteraly make the food

[bitter glacier]

and we make the coal

[steep elm]

he stole haber's food then
makes sense

[atomic pebble]

Should we stop making it?

[marble hatch]

Nah, they are fine
Preventing lynching is quite an achievement for now

[steep elm]

is everyone going to strike now

[bitter glacier]

should we stop making the coal thats keeping us from dying?

this kind of fighting can wait for after the whiteout

[icy quiver]

factions were a mistake xD

[atomic pebble]

Frost resistance

[bitter glacier]

right now we need to focus on unity and survival

which is my statement on the criminal btw

[marble hatch]

I'm helping the City
In a way

[turbid viper]

how many do i have left after the replacements

[steep elm]

technically not factions

[austere dock]

How bad is the city?

[bitter glacier]

the Vanguards are less of a faction and more of a de facto guard force atp

[steep elm]

you replaced
1 in coal mine alpha
1 in coal mine beta
1 in hothouse alpha
1 in hothouse beta

so I think you have 2 left

[bitter glacier]

really bad in terms of morale

[austere dock]

As it should be :3

[icy quiver]

groups were a mistake xD

[marble hatch]

After Whiteout yer job will be to maintain fair situation for City

We are going to launch an expedition once weather will loose it's guard

[atomic pebble]

We are in a whiteout what did you expect?

[bitter glacier]

as it will be, I've already declared that after the whiteout my objective is to clean up the mess in the city

[turbid viper]

i'll place one in the one which has 1 foreman, and another on the settler shift in coal mine y

[verbal musk]

I await the day there will be “Haber: 2”

[bitter glacier]

once thats handled I promised Jincent help with expeditions

[steep elm]

noted

[austere dock]

Is starvation a thing yet?

[steep elm]

the one thing the city is good at

is food production

[austere dock]

Is cold a problem in the shelters yet?

[atomic pebble]

What would happen if the Revenants changed their jobs? (Like all of them)

[icy quiver]

O.o hes gunan split into 2 habers?

[steep elm]

already is, but is getting solved soon if we get more foremen

[bitter glacier]

mitosis

[verbal musk]

What if… we clone Haber

Think about it

[warm cliff]

More habers

[icy quiver]

im sorry you hurt your foot but im not your sister

[verbal musk]

Haber doesn’t eat, sleep, feel cold

[turbid viper]

do not forget about the deal for recruiting settlers

[warm cliff]

In the city of Haber

[austere dock]

So people might fight in the barreks because of the cold?

[verbal musk]

The Apex Worker

Haber is THE Apex Worker

A city full of Habers

[warm cliff]

Also when the Whiteout ends?

[steep elm]

what do you mean? got out of the hothouses?
the hothouses would still be able to feed the population, even if another group without the bonus worked there, thanks to the fact that we need little people there

[austere dock]

Yes

[marble hatch]

Gonna use wood to make houses more comfortable later

[steep elm]

the medical post could be needed soon or not at all, it's a variable really

[narrow oar]

its a shorter one!

[bitter glacier]

my men can NOT take another workload, already spread thin as it is

[icy quiver]

ahh the Horatio method

[steep elm]

I don't see how that would solve anything for them, but tension is already increased due to the cold

[turbid viper]

we'd be fine with them being empty

without them

they dont need to take another workload

[bitter glacier]

@steep elm is there smth we can research to see how long it'll last

[icy quiver]

what if we all play jenga in the institute

[austere dock]

Maybe they get cold enough that they start to freeze a bit and with the tension they lash out at anyone they disagree with

[turbid viper]

what would that give us

[bitter glacier]

like the sterographic lenses or whatever they are called

[verbal musk]

-# Dunno who that is, but I think yes

[verbal musk]

What is all blocks freeze together

[icy quiver]

in a sci fi 4x game, one guy who loves himself, finds a planet full of cloning equipment left by another race, and he decides to clone a race of himself, becasue hes so perfect, and decides the whole galaxy should also be him

[steep elm]

not right now in the middle of the whiteout, no

we could do meteorological stuff before or after the whiteout, but during it testing if it's really working or not is hard or downright impossible since we are in the middle of a whiteout

[verbal musk]

This should be Haber city fr 🥹

[bitter glacier]

someone write this down to remind us later

[turbid viper]

there is a solution to faction tensions

[steep elm]

friendship

[turbid viper]

we build an enclave for everyone

[narrow oar]

meteorological labs ooo

[bitter glacier]

complete and total control of the city by the Vanguards
-# /j

[turbid viper]

frosties get agricultural enclave

we get extraction enclave

[austere dock]

-# the lesbian lab

[narrow oar]

LESBIAN LABS

[steep elm]

or get rid of the settlers, everything got worse since them and their ducal faces stepped into our city...

[verbal musk]

What if we do NOT do this

[bitter glacier]

we need their foreman efficiency

[turbid viper]

we'll be taking the jewel

[atomic pebble]

True

[marble hatch]

Nah, we are not pushing around Revenants, they're like a younger brother
And their food is remarkable

[narrow oar]

revenants steal

settlers get blamed

[atomic pebble]

Too late

[narrow oar]

[atomic pebble]

It is what it is

[turbid viper]

its a witchhunt

thats what it is

blinded by hate

[atomic pebble]

Those evil settlers said we could just that the resources we made from the stockpile

We are victims here 😔

[steep elm]

have I ever said that they are better foremen?

[bitter glacier]

we will all be victims of the frost if we die because we refuse to cooperate

[atomic pebble]

(Btw what even is the law over the stockpile?)

[marble hatch]

Wdym?

[atomic pebble]

Never went against cooperation? Just protecting my own

[steep elm]

nothing right now

but soon... soon we'll have stuff on stockpiles

[turbid viper]

y'know what i think

this haber guy

wants to keep us divided

[bitter glacier]

was this not implying that Catanians are better foremen

[austere dock]

Put the lesbian researchers in charge

[turbid viper]

we dont have any

[steep elm]

no
this is the reasoning as to why they can be foremen
and also as to why they have the efficiency bonuses for extracting stuff

[austere dock]

Yet™

[atomic pebble]

So... how does that Revenant was accused of theft if there is no consensus on what is allowed?

[bitter glacier]

I see

either way he has more people than I do

[steep elm]

so
vanguards and settlers are as good as each other at foremanning around

[steep elm]

not in regards to law
the stockpiles are the city's, and therefore Haber's, property

[turbid viper]

the feudal lord is using divide and conquer

[bitter glacier]

he took more rations than allotted to him

[steep elm]

the stuff we'll have regarding stockpiles is different

[steep elm]

he stole from haber smh

[icy quiver]

habers fault for being so theftable from

[atomic pebble]

The guy took what he made...

[turbid viper]

what is this.

a capitalist society

an artisanal mode of production

no

[steep elm]

I mean, he technically didn't get stole from in the end
as the Vanguards were there to return the food to the stockpile

[bitter glacier]

no excuse to take whats owed to others

[narrow oar]

not really

[steep elm]

he took what... the guy he healed made

[atomic pebble]

We were foragers before

[bitter glacier]

I can see the headline now:

VANGUARDS STOP THEFT: URGE FOR UNITY

[icy quiver]

so no crime was actually committed?

[steep elm]

no, it was
I meant that the end result was neutral

[bitter glacier]

he did the crime but he was stopped

[atomic pebble]

-# Marginal decrease in unity

[marble hatch]

Make criminals participants in Tusk's sparring

[steep elm]

steals food
gets caught
vanguards return food

technically net 0

[atomic pebble]

Trial by duel, honorable, jincent will allow it.

[steep elm]

could happen if you guys do the warning thing

it's basically on the people's hand how the criminal is dealt with

[bitter glacier]

not happening

we cant take tension

[atomic pebble]

Wdym tension?

[bitter glacier]

tension is at 4/5

[marble hatch]

Sparring would reduce it further

[atomic pebble]

A sanctioned fight will decrease tension smh

[bitter glacier]

warnings increases tension

[steep elm]

that's a might

[atomic pebble]

Not exactly a warning if you get injuried...

[bitter glacier]

we cant afford that risk rn

[steep elm]

depends on what happens

[marble hatch]

If we are going by plan my folks start a sparring match next turn... And you spread your posters?

[bitter glacier]

a prison is the best option as of now

[atomic pebble]

No?

[steep elm]

4k

[bitter glacier]

every person matters, we can't afford to lose one

[atomic pebble]

Litteral Whiteout

Why waste resources?

[bitter glacier]

warnings has risk of tension and the guy stole critical supplies, we can't let that off with a warning

[marble hatch]

-# Sparring in jails

[atomic pebble]

Critical resources are ones we lack, not ones with oversupply

[bitter glacier]

in a whiteout all resources are critical

[atomic pebble]

Btw haber does lifting the Rationing on just food itens would cause a defict?

[marble hatch]

Oh, also
@bitter glacier if we are voting for prison then we would need to spend wood on it, I think so

[bitter glacier]

plus he violated the rationing that your community suggested

[steep elm]

indeed

[bitter glacier]

I dont think we're doing too bad on wood rn

[narrow oar]

yeah but like, we dont have the resources fort a jail so uh

death

:3

[marble hatch]

As Haber said, any action wih wood worth one building

[steep elm]

you are, people might die to get wood currently and you're not getting that much

[bitter glacier]

you just want an excuse to kill someone

[bitter glacier]

how are we on steel

[steep elm]

fine

[bitter glacier]

lets take the automaton off it

put it on wood

[steep elm]

the luberjack post

[bitter glacier]

is that not an option

[steep elm]

has no way for an automaton to make use of it
since it uses pratically no machines

[atomic pebble]

Humans litteraly produce more than an automaton

[bitter glacier]

it would be to prevent the dying part

[atomic pebble]

For whom?

[bitter glacier]

can we build the prison out of steel then

[bitter glacier]

the people in the sawmill?

[steep elm]

no lol

[atomic pebble]

Just insulate the lumberjack mill

[marble hatch]

Oh, @steep elm can I suggest to make 2 houses more comfortable to reduce tension as one of future building options? To make 2 houses better instead of building a new one?

[steep elm]

making houses better is a research

[bitter glacier]

gng we have homeless rn and you wanna make the existing houses more comfy?

crazy suggestion

[marble hatch]

We already voted to insulate housing

[steep elm]

the tusks have a different vision on the worl

[atomic pebble]

You know that you caused the homelessness right?

[bitter glacier]

yeah they dont have homeless how lucky

[bitter glacier]

no I didnt, there were already homeless people

[atomic pebble]

I crammed the frostlanders in the housing

Then you recruited them and messed things up

[bitter glacier]

did you not notice how 3 of the homeless are Catanians and one is a Vanguard

I didnt do anything

[marble hatch]

Well, tension is a problem too

[steep elm]

the only housing insulated is the vanguard barrack on the left, as seen by the black thingy inside the triangle

[marble hatch]

Oh, I see

[bitter glacier]

@atomic pebble 8 + 3 = 11

I didnt screw up the cramming

[atomic pebble]

Wait were did the extra guys come from??

[steep elm]

yeah, the only thing is that the cramming increased tension more

[bitter glacier]

some settlers arrived

[steep elm]

5 new settlers

expelled the vanguard that was mixed in with them

[atomic pebble]

Shared tension issue (Mb the extra ones confused me)

[bitter glacier]

is there anything I can do by cooperating with the frosties considering Wohn isn't very friendly rn

[marble hatch]

What about sending a vanguard to help with sparring organization?

[bitter glacier]

who would the singular prisoner spar

[marble hatch]

Me/j

[steep elm]

you can go to their fight thingy to ensure no one gets hurt, aiding him in that

[bitter glacier]

tarry dies in the sparring match and Jincent assimilates his group

[steep elm]

tarry*

[bitter glacier]

the 3 guards for the prison will oversee that then

[steep elm]

who's harry

[steep elm]

understood

[marble hatch]

But yeah, originally I was more about #1454153857092288763 message
And Haber said that 1 vanguard can watch over a single prisoner well

[bitter glacier]

can one assume that the steelworks isnt being heated

[marble hatch]

🔥

[bitter glacier]

I'll have all three there because its more than one person we're dealing with now

[atomic pebble]

What are the Tusks better at?

[narrow oar]

-# being objectively worse revs

[marble hatch]

Causing injuries

[atomic pebble]

-# Icebloods

[marble hatch]

Nay,
So scouting and fights
But we're a good company on feasts

[icy quiver]

havine big teeth

[narrow oar]

oh i thought it was

"insulate ALL housing'

not

"ONE housing"

i may be stupid

[icy quiver]

what?

really?

it very much seemed like it was all housing

[atomic pebble]

players messed up the game 😔

[steep elm]

everything else in the poll was one thing

[steep elm]

the same applied to housing

[narrow oar]

it just said housing

[atomic pebble]

efficiency situation all over again

[icy quiver]

no it wasnt, it said "hothouses" plural

housing refers to multiple houses

[steep elm]

it was, still, one hothouse

if it wasn't, why were you asking about keeping people safe from the cold during insulation?

[atomic pebble]

gm decided we have to suffer more

[icy quiver]

so you lied to us?

[marble hatch]

Welp
We have an ability to insulate houses since we researched it, so not bad

[icy quiver]

casue i figured a limited amount of workers would do one by one

[steep elm]

more like I always say hothouses plural and put the s there

[bitter glacier]

"we have one hothouses"

[narrow oar]

singular housing was always called a barrack so far

[steep elm]

I mean, you can still... continue to insulate them

[narrow oar]

so i assumed that housing meant

[steep elm]

(by accident)

[narrow oar]

all

[icy quiver]

yeah this kinda sucks

[steep elm]

I think I've used
both

[marble hatch]

Dwelling place

[bitter glacier]

at least now the Vanguards have some insulation...

[icy quiver]

if id known it was one house, i would have voted for no insulation during a whiote out

casue its kinda pointless to do just one

[bitter glacier]

not really

[steep elm]

I do frquently use "housing" in polls

[bitter glacier]

now those people are less likely to get sick

[narrow oar]

i wouldve done hothoose tbf

[steep elm]

it is not since you are also decreasing coal demand

[bitter glacier]

hothoose

[icy quiver]

yeah our singular hothouses -.-

[steep elm]

by a good deal

[narrow oar]

thats on purpoose

[steep elm]

the great numerous hothouses

[bitter glacier]

why is there a meat icon

do we have livestock

[steep elm]

I'll put numbers in the next polls

[steep elm]

no

[bitter glacier]

then what is the meat

[steep elm]

but fp1 raw food icon

[atomic pebble]

-# Dont worry about it

[bitter glacier]

whats the meat, haber?

[narrow oar]

tbf im kinda

[atomic pebble]

-# you are getting food after all

[narrow oar]

thinking that the crime may have sealed our fate

[bitter glacier]

nay it hasnt

[narrow oar]

bc most of these up tension and uh

[steep elm]

ask the revenants

[narrow oar]

jail means we have to build a jail.

[bitter glacier]

we WILL get through this

[atomic pebble]

btw 5/5 tension leads to a game over?

[bitter glacier]

we cant fall

[bitter glacier]

I presume an ultimatum like ingame but maybe I am wrong

[marble hatch]

As I said
People, I'll help with tension and criminals if we vote for warning

[atomic pebble]

you guys might just be overreacting, we literally are mid whiteout of course tensions will be high

[narrow oar]

youre like

[bitter glacier]

warning wont do anything useful

[narrow oar]

the last group i trust on this

[marble hatch]

I don't want to know, Haber City will be a happy place

[bitter glacier]

we had high tension already and its on the verge of gameover

[atomic pebble]

is it?

[bitter glacier]

4/5

[atomic pebble]

5/5 does game over?

[bitter glacier]

well its not good

[atomic pebble]

you get some months to fix it

[narrow oar]

idk but haber said that our city might actually fall

a lot of times

[bitter glacier]

I dont want haber city to fall

I quite like it

[narrow oar]

yea we didnt even get the girlkisser faction yet

[atomic pebble]

can we just unite and urge haber to research faster, wasnt that an ability?

[bitter glacier]

we can urge haber to do things doesnt mean it'll happen

plus we arent researching rn

[steep elm]

:)

[bitter glacier]

so thats a yes

and we're gonna avoid that gameover

[atomic pebble]

we can just depose Haber or something

like in the game

we didnt even had a vote of confidence yet

[bitter glacier]

dont you know what happens when tension maxxes out in fp2?

everyone in the city kills each other

[atomic pebble]

ye we kill the steward

[bitter glacier]

no

each

other

not the steward

[atomic pebble]

council

[bitter glacier]

everyone else

[marble hatch]

#1454153857092288763 message

[bitter glacier]

I lowk dont trust the ppl rn

they finna lynch the guy

[warm cliff]

Yeah and this is bad

[narrow oar]

warnings gonna kill us bc of the tension increase

[warm cliff]

Of course. Because warning is like
"Hey, don't do that >:("
"Or what?"
"Or I... I uh... well, I..."

[marble hatch]

And we could teach prisoners back in our workforce with sparring warnings

[bitter glacier]

what is this hybrid law

[atomic pebble]

you lack ambition

[open pewter]

hi

Rehab is amazing

Ok bye

[warm cliff]

Wdym I lack ambition?

[steep elm]

also clara, idk if you noticed, but the revenants lost their cold resistance buff to the tusks

[marble hatch]

Hey, ye save on guards, we all save on wood due not building prison, criminals will be teached by sparring a bit faster and make a show for people

A win-win

[atomic pebble]

Twist and mold the laws to your biding (:

[atomic pebble]

what??

[bitter glacier]

Haber said the sparring can happen inside the prison

[narrow oar]

keeps getting better

i love being a spectator to this car crash

[steep elm]

it was there

not anymore

[marble hatch]

I can only remember how I joke about it tbh

[atomic pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/dust-ashes-thanos-gone-avengers-endgame-gif-14825403

[marble hatch]

Nice

[warm cliff]

Of course I do that

I'm a fascist

I always try to pass the laws I see fit

[marble hatch]

Though, lumberjack posts are considered extracting job or something particular?

[bitter glacier]

okay buddy slow down there

[steep elm]

not the type that the settlers would have a bonus

[bitter glacier]

maybe there is a difference between you and I

[steep elm]

since it uses little machines
same reason as to why there can't be an automaton there

[marble hatch]

But my folks would freeze less on it?

[steep elm]

yeah

[marble hatch]

I see

[steep elm]

@icy quiver give me a number

right now

[atomic pebble]

can i organize my ppl into a faction and regain my trait?

[steep elm]

no

[atomic pebble]

-# 😔

[steep elm]

you can do the thing that Nric did and expand on it

[warm cliff]

Okay, okay, I actually just like being authoritarian 😔

[steep elm]

and gain little abilities based on that

[atomic pebble]

i see

[marble hatch]

Like that he can help with sparring?

[steep elm]

what do you mean

[bitter glacier]

yeahhh see why don't we just become authoritarian socialists instead

[atomic pebble]

do you know where the thing was?

euee thing text

[steep elm]

haber city's destiny is at play guys

[warm cliff]

I don't really like that "socialist" part, but I think we will be able to find a middle ground

[bitter glacier]

like what I have with the vanguards:

Guardians: Consider themselves the protectors of the people in Haber City from violent threats
Effects:

• More likely to voice dissent against unjustified harmful actions.
• More likely to intervene in hostile interactions between citizens.
• More willing to defend the city than regular guards.
• May aid in day-to-day activities when unoccupied.

[bitter glacier]

there is no middle ground for equality...

[warm cliff]

A City of is a healty city

[atomic pebble]

1984

[warm cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/tweaking-out-black-guy-tweaking-meme-gif-6022943353035016664

[marble hatch]

I see

[warm cliff]

What type of equality at least

[bitter glacier]

socialism

communism doesnt work for me because that means no state

[marble hatch]

I thought about another thing for a moment, nervermind

[warm cliff]

In questions of Frostpunk merit/equality, is it like 20% / 80% or does equality has more in that percentage?

[bitter glacier]

so in terms of fp communism doesnt fit because its a classless, stateless, currency-less society\

so it'd probably be like 150% equality or smth

[bitter glacier]

60-80% equality but no

[warm cliff]

Hmm...

[bitter glacier]

oh I should mention the Vanguards are only leaning but Nric is more

[steep elm]

Why are we having a socialism discussion in the Haber city chat

[marble hatch]

Gotta go for now to sleep
Everything I wanted to organise is already noted by Haber

[warm cliff]

Make it below 70% and count me in then

[bitter glacier]

felt like it

[atomic pebble]

Revenants

• Better at food jobs
• Better at medical jobs

Resilience: Having faced various perils in the frostlands caused them to become hardier people

• Less likely to die due to sickness, injury & famine.
• Cold environments have a lowered effect on their tension.
• Less likely to intervene in workplace accidents.
• May push through adversity when needed.

[narrow oar]

neat!

[steep elm]

I could probably make it work like that since there's no actual mechanical difference

[steep elm]

Also, what does "less likely to intervene in workplace accidents" mean?

[atomic pebble]

they are tough, small stuff doesn't bother them, so why would it for others?

besides they can fix whatever gets broken later

[bitter glacier]

wasnt it the tusks that took all your tough guy traits

like the cold resistance

[atomic pebble]

just the lesser coal consumption

[bitter glacier]

which imo kinda fits with the tension thing but thats up to haber

[atomic pebble]

im kind of going for normal consumption being required but if it isn't met they aren't as bothered

[bitter glacier]

[steep elm]

Understood

[narrow oar]

i wanted to do smth else

but i forgo

for the project i mean

[atomic pebble]

(Felt like they needed a slight debuff due the undying first line)

[regal raft]

What is this

[narrow oar]

smaller scale version of FR kinda, Haber made his own city which is

currently going through a whiteout

anyway

one last thing

a symbol for Haber himself, and by extension the city

[fossil hinge]

Increased shifts and half rations as punishments?

Saves resources while still being deterrents

[steep elm]

Half rations is just emergency rationing, which is already active

[fossil hinge]

Quarter rations?

[steep elm]

They'd die

[fossil hinge]

Womp womp? /j

Tbh I don’t know that we can risk resources rn

Maybe after the whiteout I would consider a more hands on approach

[atomic pebble]

Just developing this a bit more.
Its not like they dont care for others, its just that they have a twisted perception of what is actually dangerous.

[fossil hinge]

Oh are we making stats for the factions?

[narrow oar]

criminals get the cone

[atomic pebble]

Everyone is to point and laugh at the cone

[steep elm]

I can already see the settler propaganda being "EVIL Revenants are HEARTLESS and DON'T CARE if you get into an ACCIDENT"

[narrow oar]

that and it also catches snow

you have become a bowl

have fun

[fossil hinge]

Cheaper executions and rain catcher

[steep elm]

Expanding on their lore

[fossil hinge]

I see I see

[atomic pebble]

"Evil settlers are working people to the bone" (they are foremans)

[fossil hinge]

Am I allowed to write stuff or no?

[steep elm]

You are not in any group

[fossil hinge]

Aw

[steep elm]

And all the slots are taken

[fossil hinge]

):

Evil Haber HATES technocrats

[steep elm]

You'd need some group to get exiled

[narrow oar]

"oh look. an idiot. lets point! and laugh!"

[steep elm]

Or become a part of another group, but then you aren't really the leader

[atomic pebble]

Not if we kill exile another group 🤔

[steep elm]

And can't really do anything of importance

[fossil hinge]

Eh I’ll consider just hanging out

[narrow oar]

reach wait

[steep elm]

Yeah

[narrow oar]

do you consider yourself

a girlkisser

[fossil hinge]

Maybe?

Idk tbh 😭

[narrow oar]

youre welcome to join me and liesel to take the spot when the revolution happens

girlkisser faction

(/j sadly?)

[atomic pebble]

Haber does the Grand institute has a basement? (Can we call it the underground )

[steep elm]

If*

Since you guys might, y'know

Not survive until then

[steep elm]

It doesn't

[fossil hinge]

Girlkissers of the world unite

[narrow oar]

[steep elm]

Haber didn't dig a basement

[atomic pebble]

No underground, sorry Clara. I tried.

[narrow oar]

how DID haber build

much of anything alone

[narrow oar]

its okay thank you vinnie

[fossil hinge]

Haber is god

We are but actors on a stage

[steep elm]

Sheer strength
-# Plot conviniences/being God's character

[narrow oar]

well 4 of us are

the rest of us are hh

[steep elm]

Audience

[narrow oar]

yknow statler and waldorf from the muppets?

[steep elm]

That sometimes votes

[fossil hinge]

I might join the settlers as a background character

[atomic pebble]

Jincent was looking around the Haber things in his house/institute and he found a skeleton in the office closet.
Weird occurance...

[narrow oar]

rradel eeach...

[fossil hinge]

Rradel eeach will accomplish great things in this world

[narrow oar]

tbf i havent like

[atomic pebble]

Rradel you can do it!

[narrow oar]

joined anyone

i mostly just do art and

hallucinate about a future lesbian faction

which is a good life tbh

im mostly impartial i just dont like the tusks

[steep elm]

Maybe in like... 20 days it'll be here

[atomic pebble]

Settlers splinter soon + 2 weeks

[steep elm]

The tusks are cool... you'll like them (if we have enough time to do with them what I want to do with them)

[atomic pebble]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1064725390670696511/1458186012965470320/attachment.gif

😔

[narrow oar]

the thing is, for now they just look like

the weird cousin of the icebloods that noone at the family dinner likes

mainly because and dont like em

and also dont like em because theyve splintered from them

[steep elm]

The vanguards and tusks are having a friendship thing at the prison

[narrow oar]

did i miss a thing

[steep elm]

Vanguards are supporting the fight

[atomic pebble]

In the bunker?

[steep elm]

That the tusks are hosting

[narrow oar]

right okay

i uh

sure

[steep elm]

In the bunker or in the prison, I remember Nric saying the prison since we're using their guards... idk it wasn't clear

[atomic pebble]

He wanted to build a prision iirc

[narrow oar]

we dont even have a prison yet do we

[steep elm]

To decrease the tension

[steep elm]

Not yet

[narrow oar]

we are probably gonna get one

looking at how much reintegration is leading with

tbf thats fair i can live with that

mainly because

[fossil hinge]

I don’t like spending the workforce but at least there’s hope of getting it back later

[atomic pebble]

We have anything else causing tension?

[narrow oar]

uhhhh

hold on lemme check

[atomic pebble]

We kinda of solved the fuel issue right?

[steep elm]

I also didn't get a number, so I might have to choose one myself

[narrow oar]

you have mixed vanguards and revenants in a house

[narrow oar]

i like 4 :3

[atomic pebble]

-# 1984

[steep elm]

Sorry... it was Janestro choosing or I give the worst result possible

[fossil hinge]

Personally a big fan of 8

[steep elm]

I'm going with the latter now

[narrow oar]

understandable

[fossil hinge]

Oh ok

[narrow oar]

ooo 8 is great too

[atomic pebble]

Cant you roll a dice?

[fossil hinge]

Janestro is more random /j

[atomic pebble]

-# Understandable

[narrow oar]

also according to a couple posts ago the whiteout itself is a tension factor

which

checks out

like if i had to bear a snowstorm affectionately called "the great old enemy" i would be pretty tense too

[bitter glacier]

I say in the prison

I dont trust the public to not lynch the criminal

and I dont want to exile or execute him either

[bitter glacier]

you mean workforce for the prison? its only half of whats on patrol

[steep elm]

Is the criminal actually being included in the fight
@marble hatch can you confirm this or disprove it so I can note it with the past official proposal

[bitter glacier]

why not in the prison

[marble hatch]

Okay, I readen previous
@steep elm can ye note the prison then?

[steep elm]

So the criminal is included in the fight?

[marble hatch]

Ye

[bitter glacier]

who he fightin

[marble hatch]

It's for his own good, will return to work faster

Sparring match, so not looking to kill anyone
A championship where 5 of mine folks and a prisoner as participants, 1v1 for fairnes

[bitter glacier]

why would other people be fighting

[marble hatch]

A rule of sparring I assume
And plan was to reduce tension so

[bitter glacier]

but what would tusks fighting tusks do

I understand someone fighting the prisoner

but not anyone else

[marble hatch]

Put on a show and entertain themselves

[bitter glacier]

yeah I just dont see how that would decrease tension tho

maybe if it were Catanians v Frosties or Tusks v Reverants

[fossil hinge]

It’s a fighting pit, no?

It’s just a show

[marble hatch]

I think it will not, they'd need to do such a thing in bunker so anyone who wanted could watch

[marble hatch]

"The pit calls"

[narrow oar]

"Haber the tusks are busy fighting eachother in the bunker"

"what, why??"

"no reason at all really."

"...okay does this have any effects?"

"well its fun to watch."

"...ill get some popcorn"

anyway our prison might just

end up being a boxing ring and a cell

[bitter glacier]

I'm not letting it devolve to such a state

this is my prison, I'm the one running and maintaining it

with the criminals my men caught

[marble hatch]

Colesium

[dark marten]

Stole food because he doesn’t like rations?
Oh boy is he about to get half-rations whilst in gaol!

[atomic pebble]

No definition or regulation on the use of the stockpile

I claim unjust treatment

[marble hatch]

The Pit calls

[atomic pebble]

Give that Renevant a warning and send him on a trial (pit fight)

[marble hatch]

I voted for warnings, don't know about others

[bitter glacier]

woah when did this happen

[atomic pebble]

Warning + trial is clearly the best solution

[fickle linden]

prisons are popular

[marble hatch]

[bitter glacier]

it's not considering the high tension

we can't take the risk of it boiling over

plus Haber said that it was basically up to the public what happens to him

I don't trust the public with high tension to not lynch him

[atomic pebble]

Imagine sending folks out to the frostlands for a sunfrost trial

Survivors get the right to get back to the city

[marble hatch]

This revenant is part of the club now

[dark marten]

You can claim whatever you want. Everything belongs to Haber and we will have to throw you in gaol with the Revenant.

That said - I wouldn’t mind a little trial by combat.

[atomic pebble]

This presumption is wrong Haber only owns the institute.
Revenants were the ones who started building the city.

Followed by the other groups

[narrow oar]

insomnia!

[narrow oar]

and the gennie

also its not called revenant city is it?

[atomic pebble]

-# Yet

[austere dock]

It's Haber City ofc

[marble hatch]

Haber gave us a comfortable place to set a prolonged camp

While he isn't worrying us all is fine

[regal raft]

Build a thing inventor

[steep elm]

No haber city today due to headache

[verbal musk]

Get well soon

[bitter glacier]

the revenants better work overtime to fix it

considering they are better at medicine

[marble hatch]

We can wait
Get well

[bitter glacier]

here I'll take over in his absence

week smth

whiteout ends

prison gets built
100 Vanguards show up with enough supplies for 12 fully insulated homes
1000 cores spawn and the progress generator is built

Vanguards win

[steep elm]

If the vanguards win

There's a requirement for every ending

Which is that the City gets an actual name

[bitter glacier]

city is named to Nric City

now we win

[steep elm]

Not a real name

I deem it fake

And not real

[bitter glacier]

smh smh

[steep elm]

And therefore the vanguards die

[marble hatch]

Whaletown

[bitter glacier]

[steep elm]

I already have some names in mind

Depending on the ending

[bitter glacier]

everyone dies ending - "Pile of rubble"

[marble hatch]

For later
For know, Haber needs rest

[bitter glacier]

I you to rest Haber

[verbal musk]

Wait, the game can end this soon already?

I thought it's fated to run for one year at least

[sour stratus]

Ye cant order around our steward ya unfull landlubber

[steep elm]

One year would mean more than 300 weeks/turns

It certainly can end before that

[verbal musk]

Guys, let's not sell already

[marble hatch]

For now lets enjoy what we have

[bitter glacier]

that's what I'm trying to do

[sour stratus]

Yeah a whiteout

[marble hatch]

Ye, and focus on in the process

[bitter glacier]

but some people think it's a good idea to let others steal from the stockpiles

[sour stratus]

Fair enough

[atomic pebble]

Winterhome

[verbal musk]

Guys

what if

Haber City was the Habers we made along the City

[atomic pebble]

We havent made any Habers...

[verbal musk]

Hmmm...

That's an issue

We need clones

Haber clones

[steep elm]

since no post you guys get new image on the main post

[marble hatch]

Nice!

[dark marten]

69% of the vote.
What's going on in the prisons Haber?

[sour stratus]

I mean its the clear option

Cuz we need people and we want to keep tension low

[bitter glacier]

has prevailed once again

[steep elm]

@here

With the prison built, the Tusks organise a little event in the prison, a fight to elevate the morale of the citizens to try and ease the tension; the Vanguards ensure that no one gets too hurt.

Some papers are also distributed, with the same purpose mentioned before; some motivating pieces of art for the populace.

The Settlers also take on being the foremen in all workplaces that had any, replacing the Vanguards previously there.

But between constructing a Prison and using the wood to make paper...

We are left with no resources for construction

Haber keeps toiling away in the Grand Institute, elaborating new solutions to our heating problems

The city stops for a few days

No poll due to lack of resources.

-# you can still try to do more stuff as the groups, but the city as a whole kinda of has no option
-# next post more or less <t:1768154400:R>
-# [past post](#1454153857092288763 message)
-# [next post](#1454153857092288763 message)

[marble hatch]

Have we changed Tension/Trust scales or it'll be said later?

[steep elm]

You did

I forgot to put the image there

But it decreased by 1

[marble hatch]

Due sparring and posters combined? Nice

[marble hatch]

Also, can I put 15 people on Saw and put my people off from hothouses so @atomic pebble's Revenants could optimize the production of food more?

And maybe propose to stop the rationing so people won't worry this much?

[turbid viper]

bravo moralists

[atomic pebble]

sure

[marble hatch]

And maybe I'm insane, but there's 27 Vanguards being used

[atomic pebble]

rationing stays tho, it doesnt affect just food

[marble hatch]

@steep elm could ye note?
15 tusks on lumberjack post and zero on hothouses

[atomic pebble]

Vanguards propaganda had no effect on the Revenants, they felt it was a waste of good wood.

[marble hatch]

I thought of proposing to stop using it for now since we have stockpiles

[atomic pebble]

id be fine with alleviating the food rationing, not so sure about the coal

[atomic pebble]

do we?

[atomic pebble]

Revenants will take all spots in the hothouses

[marble hatch]

We were stockpiling so far if I'm right #1454153857092288763 message

Maybe not

[atomic pebble]

for food yes

not sure about coal

[marble hatch]

Ye
I was about emergency rationing

[atomic pebble]

**All's Housing **
Every place shall be used to house the population, Haber no longer has exclusivity of the Grand Institute.

• +You get 5 housing on every non-house building
• -Haber will sleep in the same room as frostlanders

**Emergency Rationing **
Just toughen it out lmao.

• +Everyone eats 1 ration every 3 days
• -Disease may spread

-# "Just toughen it out lmao"

[steep elm]

Rationing is just about food, coal is still used the same amount

[atomic pebble]

ye i had forgor

still we can burn food at the jewel

[marble hatch]

With 3 coal mines
Are we still using more coal than catanians output?

[atomic pebble]

The remaining unjobbed Revenants will try to salvage materials and scrap from rubbish piles and any other unused sources

[steep elm]

There are no unemployed revenants

[atomic pebble]

we are switching placess with the tusks

[steep elm]

then you'd have

1 free

since the hothouses are 4

[bitter glacier]

wdym the city stops

[steep elm]

metaphor

[bitter glacier]

is it like when in the great storm everyone stops working

[steep elm]

no

we just have no resource to build stuff

[bitter glacier]

so the generator is off

that's the only stopping I can see

[marble hatch]

We would have building options but you spent all wood on posters

[bitter glacier]

to help morale

[marble hatch]

Yeah, and together we did progress with it

[bitter glacier]

wdym by one

is this like the FP boardgame where it's like tokens instead of a process bar with percentages

[marble hatch]

0.5 from posters and 0.5 from me

[bitter glacier]

I'm asking abt the units of measurement

[marble hatch]

We have 5 levels of tension... We had 3 if I remember it right... And now decrease by one

[atomic pebble]

We had 4 now it is 3

[marble hatch]

Well, still a progress

[atomic pebble]

Not sure there is an event we can do

Maybe proposing a law

Most ppl are busy with jobs and doing extra stuff probably wont be good due high tensions

Can we Propose the salvaging efforts community service?

[marble hatch]

We realy need a second lumber post but we don't have people

Gonna run a search for them once Whiteout passes

[atomic pebble]

Or a maintenance law

[marble hatch]

Or stockpile one

Propose mandatory sparring

I do

[atomic pebble]

-# Maybe

[marble hatch]

Ye heal people well enough

[atomic pebble]

Whiteout makes things hard

[marble hatch]

And Nric's folks will make sure no one dies

Better than executions, and folks will train well in the process

[marble hatch]

Do I hear a from a morsel?

[turbid viper]

the damn frosters want to impose their barbarism on all of us

[marble hatch]

/j

[marble hatch]

Ye want executions
Point neglected

[turbid viper]

one is based and order pilled

the other is savage

[marble hatch]

Mine, yeah

[marble hatch]

Hm...

[atomic pebble]

"Just toughen it out"

[marble hatch]

Though, Jincent, I still have 4 unassigned Tusks

[turbid viper]

the duke is coming

[atomic pebble]

Didnt you switched yours to be on the sawmill?

[turbid viper]

he will destroy the forces of evil

someday

soon plus two weeks

[atomic pebble]

Fake news

[marble hatch]

And 4 extra freed from hot houses

15 on sawmil
Me in Institute
4 free

[atomic pebble]

We will steal his knowledge and make him cry like lord craven.

[turbid viper]

you will face judgement

[marble hatch]

Wait him pleading help to reinstall his rule once the Duke would arrive

But hey, we need to cooperate friends

Cold is not a big deal but still

[turbid viper]

the haber reign must continue. no frosties can break it

[atomic pebble]

Say it to the Vanguards, they were the ones saying they will clean everything up with a coup

[marble hatch]

The heck I'd need to break it? Haber is worthy
Duke on the other hand haven't shined his good sides yet

Jincent, how about trying to dig up something nice from those icy plains after the weather changes? I'm sure people would like that

[atomic pebble]

Isnt it 19 in the sawmill (with one Revenant)?

[marble hatch]

15

[atomic pebble]

(Didnt your guys had a bonus for it?)

[marble hatch]

That's why Haber said ye have 1

[marble hatch]

No

[atomic pebble]

Isee

Then alls good

[marble hatch]

For expeditions
And more tolerate to cold

[atomic pebble]

We should push for a community service law

[marble hatch]

Which could be good for sawmil, but I can't solely focus on cutting wood

You'll gain more free people after problems with frost will stop

[atomic pebble]

-# what if we make a second logi center (hole) in preparation? for after the whiteout

[marble hatch]

What about we do a research to expand the lumberjack post? It'd give more wood and use some more people

But we'd run project and a building with it

25 people for it

[atomic pebble]

we lack ppl

currently

[marble hatch]

We have 5 free ones currently

[atomic pebble]

i mean there could be other more useful researches idk

[marble hatch]

If we plan to grow in numbers we need more wood for housing and after Frost we could start expeditions for them right away

Or even pass comfortable housing

[atomic pebble]

maintenance law would help us the same

reducing material usage = more spare materials

[marble hatch]

Maintenance would require people too

[atomic pebble]

Would it?

[marble hatch]

Or it would cause additional tension with people working extra

Both sides not so well

[atomic pebble]

3/5 tension we could afford it

We need the extra housing to avoid the tension from the mixing groups

And the guys in the bunker

[marble hatch]

For now we need 1 housing to get rid of vanguards in our houses and new lumberjack post to prepare place and job for new folks

Okay, 2 housing if accounting settlers

So I propose ymto expand Lumberpost, extra output from which em would rightfuly go on Frostlanders projects

Since both of us rising it with health

[atomic pebble]

For this turn would you be up to do a joint salvaging with both our remaining ppl? Harry?

[marble hatch]

Who's Harry, Jincent?

[atomic pebble]

Tarry*

[marble hatch]

And I will, in exchange I'd ask ye to help with expedition support later on

[atomic pebble]

Ay

[atomic pebble]

@steep elm

6 guys salvaging

[marble hatch]

Yeah Haber, can we?

[marble hatch]

5

[atomic pebble]

1 revenant too

[marble hatch]

You have 1 and I have four

[atomic pebble]

Idk anymore

The guys who are free

[marble hatch]

15 sawmil
1 Inst
And 4 to help with those revenant stuff in exchange

[marble hatch]

(Vanguards have -1 free people)

[steep elm]

I will kill one of them for the mistake

[marble hatch]

Just took one from the patrool job
It's fine

Also, can I as a Tusk propose to make a Pit, to both make sparrings easier and train scouts to be more tolerable?

Like, assign people in it to either reduce tension a bit or help with starting expeditions to find additional things?

It'd require equal amount of people to help Log center

[bitter glacier]

so each of our things decreased it by .5

the question is how much does tension increase for vans and frosties cohabitating

[marble hatch]

@steep elm

[bitter glacier]

we don't have resources nor is that a priority rn

[marble hatch]

I think it increases with time while we did a thing to decrease a level

[bitter glacier]

we stopped the tension crisis

we don't need to train scouts or anything rn

[marble hatch]

Not demanding now, as an idea

[steep elm]

Yes
-# (I'm currently gming an RPG so I might not answer now)

[bitter glacier]

haber here plays both parts of the RPG

the god and the plaything

[marble hatch]

-# (good luck)

Also

https://tenor.com/view/clapping-hands-pepe-the-frog-smile-happy-clap-gif-17745411

And I go sleep

[steep elm]

I rarely am a player

[bitter glacier]

I mean you were

[steep elm]

@here

Newcomers have arrived; 5 Revenants, 3 Settlers and 2 Tusks

The Vanguards have been the main focus of a disease outbreak in the mines, with most of the people that worked in second shifts being afflicted by this disease, together with some Settlers that worked outside, like those hauling and building.

To make up for these sick people no working, we have burned through some 10 units of Raw food that we had in our stockpile

With some salvaging, we were able to get enough wood for a new building. However, we also need to decide on a new law regarding our sick people, considering how much the situation has worsened.
-# [past post](#1454153857092288763 message)
-# [next post](#1454153857092288763 message)

[turbid viper]

what does a factory produce

[steep elm]

Medical Overcrowding
We will put as many people inside a medical post as we can. Best idea we ever had.

• +Medical Posts can take care of 10 patients at a time
• -Medical workers may end up sick
• -Tension Rises

Extra Rations
Throw some food at them and they'll be fine in no time. As long as we have food to give.

• +Patients will recover faster
• -5 Raw Food is required per use.

[steep elm]

#1454153857092288763 message

[narrow oar]

it produces progress

[fickle linden]

it produces durable goods

[turbid viper]

it seems like a thing the settlers would be more efficient working at so i vote for that

[fickle linden]

fellas what if

[timid sandal]

Guys

Just ONE MROE HOUSE

trust me

[fickle linden]

new hothouse + extra rations?

[timid sandal]

We just need one more house

[turbid viper]

INDUSTRY

[marble hatch]

It produces whatever workers of it want to produce

[steep elm]

food situation is that we have a 3.9 raw food surplus but we also sometimes waste extra with the Jewel or with our Soup law

and we currently have rationing active

[marble hatch]

The Pit calls

[atomic pebble]

Rationing stays on forever and the sick gets extra rations, perfect!

[marble hatch]

A bit more and I'll have to launch expeditions during whiteout

[steep elm]

we currently have 40 sick people

5 revenants already being treated

[marble hatch]

[atomic pebble]

Do we have the resources to supply a factory?

[marble hatch]

Factory will work if we will want it to work, so

[steep elm]

the automaton extracts enough iron

although if we use it a lot, we might need another iron mine

[marble hatch]

Hm...
Can we construct a second one?

And automaton can fulfill any workplace but with lower efficiency?

[fickle linden]

yes, we mainly keep it in the iron mines because pitiful foolish decadent disgusting and stupid organic workers get sick in the iron mine.

smh just adapt your lungs with a new one

anyway

[marble hatch]

I thought of constructing another automaton, or constructing a snow ship for expeditions
We still have 2 steamcores

[fickle linden]

hmm

maybe factory

can make automatons

and therefore be advanced enough for amazing prosthetics

[atomic pebble]

The mines cause sickness

Can we pass a treatment law to further accelerate treatment speed?

[marble hatch]

We can feed them more

[atomic pebble]

I mean other groups can ask for it to be disabled, Jincent wont do it

[marble hatch]

@steep elm How about it?

[steep elm]

we only have 1 steam core

[marble hatch]

1? Damn

[atomic pebble]

-# a Frostlander asking to build a Automaton

[marble hatch]

I want a ship, don't look at me

[atomic pebble]

A dreadnought is fine i guess...

[marble hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/ragnarskol-gif-5767211263634995623

[atomic pebble]

-# Still ill keep my eyes on you

[narrow oar]

im glad yall see that uh

food is less of a problem than tension

because like

we JUST got down from "we are 10 minutes until fucked"

also uh

thanks haber for colourcoding everything so i can look at this game in bed without glasses

its very useful

[bitter glacier]

not another medical post? you heartless frosties

and whoever's voting for factory

and then not even authorizing the law that gives my sick room in our medical post

[marble hatch]

I'm still thinking where a second core went

[bitter glacier]

I'll remember this vote

assuming my men don't die from illness I suppose

[marble hatch]

Just give the factory to our smaller ones to make some meds
I'm sure Revenants could figure it out

[bitter glacier]

are my sick people still working

I don't want them working

all of my sick I want resting at home because the others don't want them treated

take the healthy foremen and put them on the stockpiles

@steep elm that's what I'll do this turn

[marble hatch]

Do you realy want to do that?

Ye plan to seize the stockpiles?

[bitter glacier]

I already had ppl on stockpiles

now they are sick

so I'm changing them out

[marble hatch]

Oh

[bitter glacier]

that's how Vanguards caught the criminal

[marble hatch]

I understood it differently as in to put all people on stockpiles

[bitter glacier]

no

I'm taking my foremen off work and putting them on patrol

no one else

[narrow oar]

the industry must grow nric

besides, we can maybe uhhhhh

make medication or smth?

[marble hatch]

Ye have 6 healthy people

[narrow oar]

ngl i didnt think this through

[marble hatch]

Well
#1454153857092288763 message

I think product depends on workers

[narrow oar]

do we have a faction thats like

medically associated?

[bitter glacier]

the others are me in the institute and the guy in the prison

[narrow oar]

closest thing would be the vans?

[marble hatch]

Revenants are good with medical assistance

[bitter glacier]

reverents are good at doctor I think

[narrow oar]

i meant revs

i got my four letter shortenings confused

[bitter glacier]

is it worth it for industry to grow if those that built it die prematurely

[narrow oar]

:3

not really no

[bitter glacier]

watch the one time Catanians build an extra building be the factory

istg if that's the one

[narrow oar]

alright youve convinced me

[bitter glacier]

Haber will have to answer to the rifle

[narrow oar]

but im the only one

[marble hatch]

I would chart an expedition but I lack in hands and it's Whiteout

So for now we help the City with inner stuff

That follows the quetion

Who have enough people to operate the factory if it'll appear?

[bitter glacier]

Catanians

they'd be best anyways

probably

because my people are all sick

and Catanians are also

[marble hatch]

We'll see
I go to rest now

[bitter glacier]

I must say it's funny how both factions are sick but not a single frostie is

[marble hatch]

@atomic pebble consider it

[marble hatch]

"Just tough it out lmao"

[bitter glacier]

the tusks are resistant to cold. why is it that the rest of us have to be the homeless ones?

I vote the tusks should be the ones in the trenches

not us