#Specialized Residency

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haughty lodge
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CITY - CITIZENSHIP - NEWCOMERS INTEGRATION

"How will the approved newcomers be integrated into our city's society?"

Specialized Residency | reason |

"In order to maximize the contribution potential of city outsiders, all entrants will be required to provide document info on previous work experiences and take a qualifications exam, so that the city may allocate them to duties/workplaces where they'd be most effective."

  • Efficiency is increased
    By having newcomers working where they have most potential instead of where they'd rather work, we can expect city-wide efficiency to increase.
  • Tension is increased slightly
    Though this system will result in a more efficient society, not everyone may be happy with where they're allocated by the city.
  • Population Growth is slightly decreased
    The new entry process will slow down the speed of outsider hands entering the workplace.

Counter-Law to "Two-Tier Residency" (https://discordapp.com/channels/399667662625701893/1449343208512426056)

silk warren
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Aptitude tests are great!

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Not sure if work experience documents can be used as proof for outsiders tho...

normal grail
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did someone say

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aptitude tests

silk warren
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Include a physical test, just so that those nerds dont rank to high in the test

normal grail
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the malnourished frostlanders will be at a disadvantage

haughty lodge
# silk warren Include a physical test, just so that those nerds dont rank to high in the test

That's what the exam would also consist of in more vulnerable sectors, like nursing or being a doctor. They'd be watched carefully by another doctor, and if they do something that's outside of current standard medical procedure; They're barred from it permanently and re-evaluated for the next most suitable position that doesn't require physical testing

While also possibly having the deceitful attempt noted on their file.

haughty lodge
normal grail
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How long are they being fed

silk warren
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Sick people dont work silly

normal grail
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You'd need at least some weeks for that

haughty lodge
haughty lodge
normal grail
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Yes, however including a physical test to people that have been in the scarce frostlands for God knows how long doesn't feel correct, as situations will vary a lot between groups

haughty lodge
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This is Reason, not Merit. We're reasonable and will do the test when they're fed and in proper condition

normal grail
haughty lodge
# normal grail Yes, however including a physical test to people that have been in the scarce fr...

Would you rather we trust the word of someone who just says they're a doctor?

Or someone who claims to be a machinery expert without any hands-on testing? I feel like that's a slippery slope to just increasing workplace accidents and other related issues.

And no, it wouldn't be a food consumption increase because I assume the city already doesn't just shove people who came through the gate starving into a workplace. They get them fed and ready for work. The only change with this is that instead of getting fed and ready for work, they're fed and then sent for qualification exam.

normal grail
# silk warren Include a physical test, just so that those nerds dont rank to high in the test

I'm against the physical part of stuff since the frostlanders will never be in the same situation and waiting out for them to be in good conditions will take a bit, which should then increase food consumption

The city will feed people in accordance to their essentials law,
if it's free essentials they'll get their food and related as soon as they get in and will work in case they get assigned
if it's the merit law, then they can only get such in case they work and buy it

When the law itself needs to feed the people for its aptitudes tests, this should be reflected in the law effects as it will need to wait out until then for people to get assigned a work, otherwise it will depend on other laws for that

haughty lodge
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Then how about a compromise

normal grail
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You can still have the physical tests

haughty lodge
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It adds synergy/conflict with the essentials law based on what it is.

Free essentials improves the law from slightly decreased population growth to marginally decreased population growth
Paid essentials worsens the law from slightly decreased population growth to decreased population growth

Does that sound reasonable?

normal grail
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I'm just saying it you do food consumption should increase

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haughty lodge
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Good, cause it makes sense to me. If they get the stuff for free, they start recovering right out of the gate, but if its paid (and they dont have an allowance system), then it takes longer for them to get into shape for the test

normal grail
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I forgot how to write consumption for a while there

haughty lodge
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Besides; You should love that idea, cause you're a Technocrat

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And the synergy is an equality law

normal grail
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But anyway

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In the end this is all puppet's to decide

haughty lodge
normal grail
haughty lodge
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So do i get your stamp of approval as a GM

normal grail
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I can't approve it

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Puppet may

haughty lodge
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No i mean like symbolic

normal grail
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Well

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Wait a sec

haughty lodge
normal grail
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There

haughty lodge
normal grail
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This might end up fitting reason equality or reason merit more instead of pure reason
Maybe, who knows
Perhaps puppet will arrive here and smite this post

haughty lodge
# normal grail This might end up fitting <:reason:1289443632251928660> <:equality:1289443633782...

I feel like it wouldn't be Equality, since forcing newcomers into certain job positions may put them at a disadvantage against others in society. Like if someone believes they can work in a research institute and make more money but are instead placed in a labour-heavy job simply because their results placed them at a higher potential for physical output over mental output, it's more like they're being pushed around for the best work output.

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It's like how Abolished Management is Equality because there's no one lording over them on what they should do in the workplace, while Labour Oversight (Ik, not radical) is Merit because someone is lording over them and deciding what they do to maximize output.

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I posted this as a Reason law over a Merit one because it's more of a logic outlook to say that people should be put where they're most useful based on data results, while Merit would just be "This guy looks strong. Put him in the mines and see what he can achieve."

If that makes sense at all

silk warren
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Food consumption increase would only happen if you give extra rations for their recovery

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Population decrease would only happen if you are refusing entrees

normal grail
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silk warren
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If you go into detail your talking about active and inactive workforce

silk warren
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Still... not everyone will be in bad condition

normal grail
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I do think it is a considerable enough portion that'll be a marginal or slight increase

silk warren
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Marginal yeah

normal grail
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I'm not asking for Increase or Significantly Increase here

silk warren
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Or maybe a slight temporary increase each time people join

normal grail
silk warren
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Its hard to explain

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Like i feel there would be a difference between the usual trickle of population increase against big waves

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But those would be specific cases/events

marsh moss
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I swear, I've seen this one before

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From a trad i believe

flint matrix
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True

haughty lodge
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Where

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Its not very tradition

stuck lagoon
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i do recall a traditionalist law but i think it was less about the content and more about the problem it was solving