yeah
#Fp2 Transmission from new London
rapid talon
is it a barcode
lime fjord
no
halcyon glade
the 1.5khz line seems really interesting to me
Well it is
Just need to zoom in a bit
rapid talon
Kingdom for a horse= KFAH(hint for morse code)
halcyon glade
No, those are first 4 letters
Need to find 11 more
And you will get a super cool ultra rare mega deluxe edition of fp2
wicked fable
i cant find the line in reaper
halcyon glade
It's 1.5 KHz
wicked fable
idk how to serch khz
lime fjord
i looked at it and theres nothing really special about it
halcyon glade
idk how to serch khz
It's 1500 Hz
lime fjord
halcyon glade
i looked at it and theres nothing really special about it
What do you think it is?
wicked fable
yes but its my first time with this software and idk how to use it
lime fjord
What do you think it is?
honestly no idea
can we even use the fact of
20900000hz
somehow
halcyon glade
Nope
Only if someone lives in Poland and can receive messages on such wavelength
Though it's unlikely that there is anything here at all
rapid talon
can we even use the fact of
they probably wouldn't do that
halcyon glade
Yeah
halcyon glade
Probably not
lime fjord
lmao sure
halcyon glade
Move what by 20900000
rapid talon
caesar cipher
halcyon glade
The broken lamp codes?
halcyon glade
Just take a modulus lol
halcyon glade
The broken lamp codes?
If so, what is the alphabet?
There are numbers
Should we use ASCII?
If so, which version of it?
wicked fable
i found the line
lime fjord
#1286444796084224073 message
bump again
well idk
i tried different stuff with those codes and nothing so far
gonna take a break
remidner for this site too
halcyon glade
I'll add it to the doc
rapid talon
they did it again
rapid talon
no
ionic remnant
By the way you made the spectrograms with the 1080p video audio right
rapid talon
Did you do anything with cbc?
chatgpt trolled me as it was 20,9 and not 323
ionic remnant
İ think I read some time back that quality affects the audio too
rapid talon
i didn't look closely enough
halcyon glade
chatgpt trolled me as it was 20,9 and not 323
Oh okay
halcyon glade
İ think I read some time back that quality affects the audio too
I doubt it
ionic remnant
i found the line
These look like there is a code inside to me
wicked fable
not sure
ionic remnant
İs the spectrogram from the whiteout or the announcements?
wicked fable
whiteout
ionic remnant
Mind if y'all try the announcement too
ionic remnant
You tried messing with the spectrogram filters?
wicked fable
a little
wicked fable
i can make it look like this
halcyon glade
i can make it look like this
Doesn't really tell anything
There probably isn't anything
ionic remnant
Try with whiteout?
wicked fable
this is the whiteout
ionic remnant
Oh
halcyon glade
They said look at places other than audio but what could there be?
Obviously the lamps
4/5 of the codes are broken
They are either just broken, or there is something to it
halcyon glade
Don't think anyone has checked
Try it
Also just try to make the video of the stream more contrast and stuff
Not just one screenshot
There could be something else flickering other than the lamp
wicked fable
idk how
rapid talon
is the blinking light on top looped
someone has probably tried it
halcyon glade
I don't remember anyone doing that
In the doc there are no mentions of anyone trying
severe lava
the light coming from the roof pulses twice for each animation loop
halcyon glade
While the idea is still in the list of ideas
ionic remnant
Think someone tried that and told it's a loop
severe lava
the rings on the radio tower pulse 9 times each loop, with the lightning bolts flashing on the 9th
rapid talon
While the idea is still in the list of ideas
nobody updates the doc
lime fjord
the rings on the radio tower pulse 9 times each loop, with the lightning bolts f...
yeah yeah
lighting bolts every 23 seconds
ring every 3
ionic remnant
We eliminated the radio lightning and the signal from tower right(the ring)
severe lava
there is nothing else I have been able to see on screen that changes outside of the loop
lime fjord
too early
halcyon glade
I'd say in a week or so of zero progress it would be a good idea
severe lava
they posted on twitter a few hours ago and reiterated that there are "secrets hidden in plain sight"
rapid talon
frame by frame analysis for a 5h progress
lime fjord
I'd say in a week or so of zero progress it would be a good idea
perhaps a bit too much
severe lava
still*
halcyon glade
Well maybe a few days
halcyon glade
frame by frame analysis for a 5h progress
Why 5h
rapid talon
perhaps a bit too much
2 years
halcyon glade
It's 1 hour and a few minutes
rapid talon
yes but they hid something in the loop maybe
rapid talon
secret information
severe lava
surely there is something to do with the invalid codes, no way the majority are just wrong and they havent noticed
halcyon glade
Well probably
severe lava
a couple are also 1 character short
halcyon glade
But what exactly
ionic remnant
I'll cross out the lightning and radio tower
Y'all took em out nvm
lime fjord
decoding or smth
halcyon glade
a couple are also 1 character short
Yeah, I encoutered 2
halcyon glade
I listened to those like 5 times thinking I'm deaf
lime fjord
is there the ones lacking letters
severe lava
Yeah, I encoutered 2
ty
halcyon glade
They are in the doc
I even added comments
But those weren't the lamp codes
Those were just ones announced straight
Without morse
ionic remnant
Hmm perhaps some lamps use a different coding system?
severe lava
i checked the audio transcript and it didnt pick any magic unhearable letters either
halcyon glade
Hmm perhaps some lamps use a different coding system?
What system do you suggest?
rapid talon
let's just crash steam by making a lot of accounts and trying different codes
lime fjord
hey keep it at normal
severe lava
What system do you suggest?
alt language morse doesnt seem to work, im sure someone else also tried that in here
ionic remnant
let's just crash steam by making a lot of accounts and trying different codes
Unless you want hardware bans on your pc I don't recommend it
severe lava
i see your idea for the snowflake puzzle, i dont think the youtube stream is high enough quality to hide words in there like that
in the doc
halcyon glade
i see your idea for the snowflake puzzle, i dont think the youtube stream is hig...
What was the resolution of the snowflake?
halcyon glade
Well actually
Those could be considered to be "in plain sight"
Which was mentioned
ionic remnant
Guide to download high quality thumbnails
Perhaps try increasing brightness of thumbnails?
ionic remnant
Can you guys ping me if there's any updates
halcyon glade
Same
rapid talon
Do literally everything
I did that but for a random moment at the stream
you found the humanoid
And i found the biohazard
halcyon glade
Yeah, but that was a screenshot
And a random moment
This is presumably higher resolution and also the thumbnail
severe lava
this is what I got from thumbnail, only 1280x720
rapid talon
I believe that few days after this is solved someone will make a youtube video: "How the Frostpunk 2 radio secrets were solved"
severe lava
pixel peeping has got me nothing on the thumbnail so far.
they have said its in plain sight, and given how easy the other codes were (just read out in english and morse code sound and visuals) surely they arent expecting super complicated noise analysis or pixel checking
severe lava
ive checked them over a few frames throughout and there does not appear to be words hidden in them
they dont reveal characters when going over the guys goggles (in the little black squares)
theres too many to count so it wont be a number and the bigger particles follow the same paths across the screen each loop
so I do not think they are forming constellation shapes
lime fjord
and again
at this point im not sure they are aware of invalid lamps codes
although they most likely are
plain sight plain sight
w h e r e?
severe lava
the most plain sight thing is the lamp bulb.
there is nothing else that changes outside the looping elements
we only have 2 options surely, either there is some reason the codes come up as invalid that is coded
or theyre just broken
severe lava
lol 3 votes
ionic remnant
I said %100 at 1 vote(mine)
severe lava
either we are missing it and they say to look harder, or the codes are legit broken
ionic remnant
Yeah if they say look harder at least we will know we ain't wasting our time
lime fjord
well yknow
they said no tips yet yesterday
dont think anything would change today either
although who knows
ionic remnant
@halcyon glade we are voting
Btw how did you do the poll so quickly
Nvm found it
lime fjord
ionic remnant
severe lava
they said no tips yet yesterday
maybe when they go back to work poland time then? let it cool over the weekend
lime fjord
up to yall
ionic remnant
This the important poll
severe lava
i was more thinking when tips might be given is around then
lime fjord
but yknow
people want to do so rn i guess
ionic remnant
What's that ui
halcyon glade
Well actually we probably should wait till the weekend is over
severe lava
assuming not broken
lime fjord
What's that ui
custom client custom theme
ionic remnant
You using a monitor from 80s?
halcyon glade
And ping the community managers in Monday
ionic remnant
Yeah they can say they won't talk if they don't want to
rapid talon
halcyon glade
It's not like they are gonna gameban you anyway
That would be weird
Discord ban/kick/mute is way more likely
rapid talon
kick/ban or mute isn't that bad
halcyon glade
Well yeah
lime fjord
and obviously ping the ones without dnd i guess
rapid talon
execpt i wouldn't then get the game code
lime fjord
tommy again it seems to be
rapid talon
isn't tommy a dev
halcyon glade
Tommy is on vacation
rapid talon
last time i pinged him puppet got angry
ionic remnant
Ping puppet?
Jk
rapid talon
he would be happy
halcyon glade
Well actually he told us to ping him before the managers
lime fjord
yeah right i forgot
halcyon glade
So go ahead
rapid talon
who do i ping and what do i write
lime fjord
puppet first
ionic remnant
@soft magnet we require your aid
We summon thee puppet
halcyon glade
Yeah
lime fjord
discuss that with em
lime fjord
<@642062430502912050> we require your aid
We summon thee puppet
also we need a message pin!!!
halcyon glade
Yeah
rapid talon
<@642062430502912050> we require your aid
We summon thee puppet
the question is that can we ping a comm manager
halcyon glade
And also pin a message
rapid talon
we need assistance from the highers
but what would we ask
we have x traces which one we should follow?
halcyon glade
First of all, it would be nice to know if there is anything at all other then code readouts, sound morse and lamp morse
rapid talon
let's write the question here and i will copy it to the general
halcyon glade
Second, it would be nice to know if 4/5 invalid codes from lamp morse are just invalid, or do we have to decrypt them further
rapid talon
and how to decrypt them
rapid talon
we will have no clue how to do that
halcyon glade
Maybe some hints on how to decode them
severe lava
maybe not how, though an idea of where to look might help find the how
halcyon glade
Not just the way you do that
halcyon glade
maybe not how, though an idea of where to look might help find the how
Exactly
rapid talon
have you ever tried to decrypt a xxxx-xxxx-xxxx code to xxxxx-xxxx-xxxx code
ionic remnant
My summon seems to have failed
rapid talon
being silent is a sign of acceptance -gandhi
lime fjord
if so is it caesar or affine
halcyon glade
Or something else entierly
ionic remnant
Or not seeing it
rapid talon
Or something else entierly
they will just answer smth els and block us
First of all, it would be nice to know if there is anything at all other then code readouts, sound morse and lamp morse. If yes, can you please give us a clue. Second, it would be nice to know if 4/5 invalid codes from lamp morse are just invalid, or do we have to decrypt them further. It would be also nice to know how to find the decrypting method.
ionic remnant
Please ping me if there's any updates lads
halcyon glade
First of all, it would be nice to know if there is anything at all other then code readouts, sound morse and lamp morse
Second, it would be nice to know if 4/5 invalid codes from lamp morse are just invalid, or do we have to decrypt them further
Third, it would be nice to know how to find the decrypting method
Here
rapid talon
and who do i ping or which one of the 3
halcyon glade
Reorganized it
lime fjord
and who do i ping or which one of the 3
for now wait for puppet
halcyon glade
Yes, we should wait for him first
rapid talon
it's weekend
rapid talon
he might be sleeping
halcyon glade
law didnt pass
The council has rejected the law
halcyon glade
he might be sleeping
We still should wait for him
rapid talon
what can they do
halcyon glade
Even if that means we need to wait for more than a day
lime fjord
get some patience
rapid talon
severe lava
yeah time to wait it out then, might try combing the video again in the morning
maiden lotus
any new lead since last night?
rapid talon
i thought tommy was on a holiday
rapid talon
any new lead since last night?
we are waiting for puppet to answer and then we will have a lead
rapid talon
we are waiting for puppet to answer and then we will have a lead
source:me
rapid talon
Think we can ping him
you can do that as nobody will probably get angry
if i would do that everyone would call me impatient
ionic remnant
@hardy venture mind if we ask some questions about the fp2 radio streams
rapid talon
here are the questions: First of all, it would be nice to know if there is anything at all other then code readouts, sound morse and lamp morse
Second, it would be nice to know if 4/5 invalid codes from lamp morse are just invalid, or do we have to decrypt them further
Third, it would be nice to know how to find the decrypting method for the invalid lights. Thank you!
Oto pytania: Przede wszystkim miło byłoby wiedzieć, czy w ogóle jest coś innego niż odczyty kodów, dźwięk Morse'a i lampa Morse'a
Po drugie, miło byłoby wiedzieć, czy 4/5 nieprawidłowych kodów z lampy Morse'a jest po prostu nieważnych, czy też musimy je dalej odszyfrowywać
Po trzecie, dobrze byłoby wiedzieć, jak znaleźć metodę odszyfrowywania nieprawidłowych świateł. Dziękuję
halcyon glade
I think he knows English well enough
rapid talon
but it's nicer to write in polish too
lime fjord
ionic remnant
lime fjord
fluid quail
can a steam code be for example a sentence or a variation of it or are all basically random 3x5 letters and numbers?
rapid talon
if you open steam and check out the activate code thing there should be what it looks like
fluid quail
yeah but do the devs have control over what the code is or are they randomly generated gibberish
versed fossil
yeah but do the devs have control over what the code is or are they randomly gen...
Generally it's random generated gibberish (although I'm not sure if there is a way to change that)
versed fossil
can a steam code be for example a sentence or a variation of it or are all basic...
Must be 4-6 sets of 5 characters (specifically numbers and letters (all capitals))
fluid quail
I was thinking something from the horse bit could be it but now that you say it it's definitely not
I know one of the main purposes of the transmissions is lore but it just seems out of place
versed fossil
Agreed tbf, id help out but vacation momento
Honestly I'm generally just checking to make sure y'all are doing alright
versed fossil
Tommy just released a message for a fp2 fix
He had posted a ping on the same day that we were told he's on vacation as well so that doesn't mean much
I know it's too late to stop you but I really can't emphasize enough that we CANNOT be pinging staff constantly, it's not fair on them
Oh hell, even more than that. We aren't currently in their work hours, pinging them asking them to do more outside of their work hours just generally isn't a good idea (please consult rule 7)
rapid talon
I know it's too late to stop you but I really can't emphasize enough that we CAN...
solve the lamp codes then
graceful orchid
surely there is something to do with the invalid codes, no way the majority are ...
a lot of them are probably just wrong from human error. doing a frame by frame last night proved that there were some errors already in D3-2, so i think it’s safe to assume there’s errors in all of them. they’re very difficult to do by sight alone
graceful orchid
solve the lamp codes then
dude she said she’s on vacation
in any case i am actually doing frame by frames of the lamp codes, so if anyone wants to help divvy up some of those we can solve them faster
stark cloak
Tried light bulb morse code in day 3 but i guess all is taken but i agve up anyway after 2 hours
lime fjord
Tried light bulb morse code in day 3 but i guess all is taken but i agve up anyw...
did they say code is wrong or smth
stark cloak
Yeah and i dont get what it mean by the last 2 23 there
lime fjord
Yeah and i dont get what it mean by the last 2 23 there
its just example
dont mind it
also
if it says code is wrong
it doesnt mean its used
but its actually wrong
stark cloak
so 15 numbers is enough
also is it any use to try anymore, arent mosed taken by now?
graceful orchid
so 15 numbers is enough
for XXXXX-XXXXX-XXXXX codes, yes
there’s other formats for codes but so far they’ve all been XXXXX-XXXXX-XXXXX
graceful orchid
also is it any use to try anymore, arent mosed taken by now?
the audio morse code ones are all taken
but the visual clues are supposed to have codes remaining
stark cloak
like the light bulb?
stark cloak
The light bulb is insain
graceful orchid
yeah, the lightbulb
rapid talon
Yeah and i dont get what it mean by the last 2 23 there
Är du svensk?
stark cloak
Norwgeian
stark cloak
You should, amazing nature
I am giving up, this is what i found on the Day 3 light buble, dunno what i did wrong CC6BR-2VP3G-YPJW6
halcyon glade
I am giving up, this is what i found on the Day 3 light buble, dunno what i did ...
If you are not up to date with lamp morse, on every stream there were 5 of them, 4 of them being wrong
Here is the list of them all:
#1286444796084224073 message
lime fjord
If you are not up to date with lamp morse, on every stream there were 5 of them,...
did you put those into doc
halcyon glade
Well no
halcyon glade
But I think they match with that
rapid talon
You should, amazing nature
the reason would be the mountains
no mountains in finland
lime fjord
if we gonna get some kind of hint in the end please notify me too or smth
stark cloak
If you are not up to date with lamp morse, on every stream there were 5 of them,...
Oh i should have come to this server earlier
haha
so i wouldnt wast several days
halcyon glade
Oh i should have come to this server earlier
Well now it's the fun part
stark cloak
atleast i know that i managed to cypher it
halcyon glade
We are currently in the stage where we try literally everything to find something else
halcyon glade
And also waiting for hints
stark cloak
just share it here and the firts man is teh lucky one to get it?
halcyon glade
I personally don't care, I got my key on the first stream during a readout
lime fjord
imagine if all invalid codes would actually work after whatever we will do with them
halcyon glade
I'm in just for the fun
lime fjord
it'd be enough keys for all people there
stark cloak
I'm in just for the fun
I told a freind about it, he got the code on the first day. i still havent, i hsouldnt have told him hahah
halcyon glade
In this thread
lime fjord
the ones who actively participate i mean
halcyon glade
I told a freind about it, he got the code on the first day. i still havent, i hs...
The opposite is true for me
I have a friend who I told about this thing
But he still doesn't have a code
While I do
halcyon glade
the ones who actively participate i mean
Well true
Though it sounds a bit wrong
Like what if there are people trying to do this by themselves
That don't know about this group
And we just take their codes because there are more of us
stark cloak
I foudn out about it through my freind who posted the document
this group
but the link to this discord didnt want to work properly
until i ccopy pasted into another server
halcyon glade
Well in the document it's actually wrong
halcyon glade
until i ccopy pasted into another server
Wait what
So it works?
I actually had to search for it manually
stark cloak
yeah if i copy past it, but clicking or pasting on a web page it wont work
halcyon glade
That's weird
stark cloak
Managed to figure that out in the morning, spent all yesterday wondring whats happening
lime fjord
anyway about ceaser...
halcyon glade
Unfortunately
lime fjord
considering we still have uhh
halcyon glade
We still have what
halcyon glade
Too large?
halcyon glade
I told you to take a modulus
stark cloak
Anyhow i have to head for work, so good luck all
halcyon glade
Don't really know which though
stark cloak
Thank you and same to you
lime fjord
I told you to take a modulus
yeah but what to divide that on
halcyon glade
Thank you and same to you
For me it's actually 10 pm and I'm soon gonna go to bed
halcyon glade
yeah but what to divide that on
We could use 36
Which is english alphabet with 10 numbers
Maybe it's ASCII
Maybe it's unicode
Idk
We need to try
halcyon glade
Which is english alphabet with 10 numbers
The problem is we don't know the order
stark cloak
For me it's actually 10 pm and I'm soon gonna go to bed
Its soon 21:00 here and i want to sleep to but night shift
halcyon glade
It could be ab...yz01...89
halcyon glade
Its soon 21:00 here and i want to sleep to but night shift
Oh
lime fjord
36 isnt really correct uhh hold on
halcyon glade
Why not
lime fjord
sure it returns same letters
halcyon glade
It could be ab...yz01...89
It could also be ab...yz123...90
halcyon glade
Well yeah
lime fjord
36 just gives LOTS of combinations
halcyon glade
Well let's say it's in order
halcyon glade
It could be ab...yz01...89
So this
lime fjord
nvm it just
halcyon glade
It could also be ab...yz123...90
Or this
halcyon glade
Well we can try both
halcyon glade
I actually could try writing a python script for it
To be able to make custom shifting lists
lime fjord
well we have option there for alphabet and nums
halcyon glade
Oh okay then
lime fjord
well
halcyon glade
So it's the modulus of 36
lime fjord
260 shift would return same result
halcyon glade
Then
lime fjord
halcyon glade
260 shift would return same result
Because it's divisible by 36
Wait
It's not
How then
lime fjord
26
and 10
oh also
130 also works
but thats lowest we can get considering we need %10 = 0
and in our case
20900000 % 130 is 30
which
doesnt indeed change numbers in result
halcyon glade
Maybe we need to round it to 21
halcyon glade
Affine?
lime fjord
but we need 2 variables with number
halcyon glade
What's that
halcyon glade
Oh so you are on that website
halcyon glade
Well
As they've said
There is something hiding in plain sight
But where is that plain sight
halcyon glade
Maybe
lime fjord
to be fair chance of error in their lamp morses actually might be true but
always 1 valid lamp code
yeah idk
halcyon glade
Could be one big coincidence, could be something to look into. It's not like we have a lot of other leads, so we might as well try deciphering these.
fluid quail
Does the light illuminating the radio operator also blink in morse? As far as I could tell it seems to just blink twice and stop but idk if there is an "activation time" like with the lamp
rapid talon
20900000 % 130 is 30
you took that seriously
graceful orchid
but the link to this discord didnt want to work properly
oh, that's probably because its actually a link to this specific channel. we only had that link because we were using a different channel earlier
just added a link to the 11 bit discord
steep holly
After collecting all the lamp morse codes and trying to decipher the invalid codes myself, I decided to pop by the discord to see if yall have had any success or leads on solving them
Just hoping they arent invalid on purpose and only 3 were real
graceful orchid
i'm fairly certain the lamp codes not working is a result of human error. they are very, very difficult to decipher just by watching. we already found some issues in the codes posted here when we did a frame by frame, i believe its pretty likely the rest of the issues with the codes would be gone if we did a frame by frame for all of them
rapid talon
i'm fairly certain the lamp codes not working is a result of human error. they a...
also apps have difficulties solving them
fathom remnant
I disagree. I had no issue getting the morse just from watching a few times at .75 speed. The dashes were noticeably longer than the dots. I won't be surprised if there were a couple errors in my post, but I'll be shocked if more than 4 or 5 of the 12 invalids have human errors.
rapid talon
also apps have difficulties solving them
at least the ones i tried
fathom remnant
Especially since another user was doing them at the same time and we got the exact same results apart from two letters.
steep holly
I disagree. I had no issue getting the morse just from watching a few times at ....
After noticing your codes being identical to mine I am even more confident that I didnt make an error
severe lava
I think the morse translations we have are correct at this stage.
I also get the same answers checking a few at 0.5 speed.
Combine with the two short codes at 16 mins in transmission 3 being busted
halcyon glade
I disagree. I had no issue getting the morse just from watching a few times at ....
I agree with your disagreement
rapid talon
209000
severe lava
if the morse codes are incorrect in the transmission then on 11 bits side they will see the codes are still unclaimed as we dont have the real ones.
which is why I think they are just pointing us to the morse light bulb
the bulb being the only real plain sight clue we have
halcyon glade
I think they know already about us being stuck
steep holly
Being in plain sight, I would hope not to have run the video through multiple programs to acquire things like spectrograms
rapid talon
Got it! Based on the clues you've provided, here’s what we can break down so far:
"20,9 Hz": These numbers likely correspond to some frequency, possibly connected to the Morse code or a way to extract data visually (perhaps frames in a video or something displayed on the screen at those frequencies).
"It's in plain sight": This suggests that the answer or clue is not hidden in a complex way. It could refer to something in the video stream, an image, or on-screen visual details that are easily missed.
"It's visual": This further reinforces the idea that something visible is crucial to solving the puzzle. You might need to observe carefully for patterns, symbols, or other visual cues.
"209000": This could be a significant number or part of a code. It might represent something like a time frame (in milliseconds?), a timestamp, or could be related to frequencies and Hertz mentioned earlier.
"e y e": This could be metaphorical (like "keep an eye out") or refer to an actual visual cue in the video or image related to an eye. Alternatively, it could point to something symmetrical or that plays on the idea of vision.
Initial Thoughts:
The 209000 might be a timestamp in the stream or video. If the stream is saved as a video, you could check around the 209-second (or 209000 millisecond) mark for anything significant.
"20,9 Hz" might be a clue about frequency — maybe audio or visual data fluctuating at that rate or frame intervals that align with this frequency.
The Morse code could be embedded in the stream visually or audibly at certain frequencies or points in the video.
To solve:
Try focusing on time markers like 209 seconds or 2:09 in the video.
If the code is visual, look for flashes, lights, or symbols that appear momentarily at that time.
"Eye" might imply something involving symmetry, vision, or the appearance of eyes in the visual data.
Can you share the Morse code or more context about the stream/video? I can assist in analyzing or decrypting further!
-chatgpt
halcyon glade
Being in plain sight, I would hope not to have run the video through multiple pr...
Well, the peculiarity of things in plain sight is that you usually just miss it entirely
halcyon glade
Got it! Based on the clues you've provided, here’s what we can break down so far...
Well the fresh ideas are 20.9 being about timestamps and symmetry
The latter is probably nothing
severe lava
maybe the shape of the radio symbol means something
but without it changing throughout the loop its hard to pin what code it might line up with
halcyon glade
maybe the shape of the radio symbol means something
I thought about lightning lines showing direction
But probably not the case
severe lava
they always point the same way so its hard to tell
rapid talon
if it's in plain sight maybe we should ask a 5-year old to tell us something
severe lava
has anyone tried redeeming on Epic?
None of the invalid codes work on GoG so I think theyre steam only.
halcyon glade
if it's in plain sight maybe we should ask a 5-year old to tell us something
Well that's an interesting idea
I have a 7 y.o. brother, but he doesn't know english and doesn't like me
rapid talon
getting an epic code from this would not be that cool
rapid talon
getting an epic code from this would not be that cool
no mods 😦
severe lava
yeah might pass on an epic code, this puzzle has been haunting my sleep all weekend now
rapid talon
aren't they like 123456789
halcyon glade
Well they contain 20 numbers
That's enough to say that those lamp codes aren't for epic
rapid talon
what should i ask if i ask chatgpt again
halcyon glade
I don't think we can get anything from it
rapid talon
this is what I got from thumbnail, only 1280x720
i'll look at this image
severe lava
i saw a bit more detail in the guys goggles but no real shapes
whisps near the back of the head too, not sure if its anything or handwriting? (stretch)
halcyon glade
the humanoid stays
The biohazard sigh too
Could there be something to their arms?
LIke the guy in front has both arms on the table
But the one behind him has his arm raised
And the other under the table it seems
severe lava
maybe, some kind of signalling
but given they dont move it would only reveal one code at most right?
halcyon glade
That still is:
1)Visual
2)In plain sight
rapid talon
but given they dont move it would only reveal one code at most right?
one code would be cool too
lime fjord
i guess we didn't get any more tips so far
lime fjord
Got it! Based on the clues you've provided, here’s what we can break down so far...
you missed zeros in 20900000
rapid talon
maybe they don't matter that much
lime fjord
maybe
halcyon glade
I honestly don't think that this number is something other than just the release date
It's despair that makes us think otherwise
rapid talon
then what's left
halcyon glade
As i've said yesterday (I think it was yesterday) we should wait until Monday to ask community managers
It's gonna be their work hours
halcyon glade
We'll see
rapid talon
they will answer probably tomorrow
halcyon glade
Probably
rapid talon
although we pinged tommy who's on a vacation but still works
probably his worst vacation ever
halcyon glade
And he's not even on dnd
Most people ignore that anyway
lime fjord
So what i tried so far with codes
Tried decoding with affine which needs 2 variables (an odd one and any number in second)
Took amount of rings reappearance as odd variable but turned out on some lamps it wasn't odd so might not be that
even if it's ceaser we still don't know shift number
rapid talon
even if it's ceaser we still don't know shift number
that's mostly the problem
and what we asked
lime fjord
well
we figured out that
shift past 130 just loops
so shift 0 is same as shift 130
i think
lime fjord
and each shift has 2 results so it's just 260 keys to test with bruteforce
halcyon glade
Sounds doable but there probably isn't a point in doing that
It's gonna take a few days
rapid talon
i can do that if i get instructions but not now
halcyon glade
Sounds doable but there probably isn't a point in doing that
How many codes do you have to input in order to get a cooldown?
rapid talon
10-40
halcyon glade
Let's say 25
There are 12 invalid codes
260 attempts for each
3120 attempts
Let's say 2.5% of attempts will be done with a mistake for whatever reason
3200 attepmts
rapid talon
cooldown 1 hour
halcyon glade
That's 128 hours if only 1 person is doing that
halcyon glade
Steam might actually do something about your account if you make that many attempts btw
halcyon glade
Yeah
Well it could be
We might just not know the shift
If you know the shift, it's only 2 attempts per code
But still unlikely
halcyon glade
Nobody knows
halcyon glade
let's count the pixels in the thumbnail
Let's make a table of rgb values of every pixel in order and look for something
rapid talon
count how many times the letter a appears in stream 2 if the dialogue is translated to old norse
halcyon glade
let's count the pixels in the thumbnail
Actually stuff like this is in plain sight
It's just not simple to decrypt it
rapid talon
the devs would've had to ask someone to draw a picture of a man doing a radio stream but you can only use x amount of pixels
halcyon glade
Well you could just use specific values for morse
Let me try to draw that
I'm bad at picking colours, but you could choose specific rgb values and hide something like this in a coat of the front guy for example
lime fjord
the devs probably didn't do that
yeah uh
we don't know if it's encoded or not
or smth
literally clueless
wicked fable
could these gaps mean something?
halcyon glade
Probably just some noise
versed fossil
I want to brush it off as meaning nothing BUT at the same time considering the logo was drawn by hand (I think) it's only fair to assume it was intentional
If we have NOTHING else then maaaaaybe worth looking at that
halcyon glade
Without the noise it would look too shiny and round
versed fossil
Without the noise it would look too shiny and round
Fair actually
halcyon glade
So that's probably an aesthetic decision
wicked fable
probably
versed fossil
Without the noise it would look too shiny and round
I should thank you actually. I saw earlier that you mentioned you already have a code and you're just helping cause it's fun and so I just wanna say thank you for sticking around to help us out and get that epic gamer lore
versed fossil
That's all that matters 🤣
halcyon glade
Exactly
I always loved doing stuff where you have to do stuff together in order to achieve something
I participated in a lot of math and programming team competitions
Because it is a lot of fun
versed fossil
Oh that's super cool actually
I mean I program python on a BASIC level but that's basically all I do
It's super interesting to hear about different stuff that people do around this sort of thing
versed fossil
I participated in a lot of math and programming team competitions
Did you win any?
halcyon glade
A bunch, yeah
versed fossil
Good on you!
Well I digress, sorry about taking the channel off topic
I'm off to do vacationy things
halcyon glade
Have a good time!
halcyon glade
Morse code is a lot of fun
That's why I started learning it like a few months ago
Still bad at receiving though
rapid talon
I'm bad at picking colours, but you could choose specific rgb values and hide so...
there might be something like that
not 100% sure
this one
on the left
or it seems like it
lime fjord
#1286444796084224073 message
morse relink
well i tried flipping morse code but
didnt work either
lime fjord
to be fair that might just be image stuff
for sec i thought there was something
at bottom a bit right
halcyon glade
Hint on a dlc?
halcyon glade
I mean they were a publisher of a russian game
So why not
Set in a similar timeline
Around 1900s
rapid talon
if it comes we predicted it
halcyon glade
Kinda like literally every other fortune teller
rapid talon
true
rapid talon
if it comes we predicted it
or better, they have to pay us as it was our idea
halcyon glade
To be honest, I'd love to see a dlc about a different country
With different tech and stuff
rapid talon
germany or france would be cool
halcyon glade
Yeah
rapid talon
or one based on iceland/murmansk/norway
halcyon glade
Why Murmansk specifically
rapid talon
first russian city located in the arctic that comes to mind
halcyon glade
Oh okay
There is actually a very interesting one
It's called Norilsk
There are a lot of resources
Like a lot
rapid talon
norilsk seems like a fun place
halcyon glade
There are a lot of resources
Nickel, palladium, iron, zinc, lead, cobalt, platinum, coal, oil, gas
God damn
I remember that there were a lot of resources in there from geography lessons
But THAT many
rapid talon
Nickel, palladium, iron, zinc, lead, cobalt, platinum, coal, oil, gas
nvidia:
rapid talon
norilsk seems like a fun place
closed from visitors and a lot of pollution
halcyon glade
Well yeah, pollution is a problem there
rapid talon
some people from my country lived there
during the 70s norilski nickel's new nickel and copper melting places were built by outokumpu oy, for example
stark cloak
for sec i thought there was something
i though that about their guide
halcyon glade
First of all, it would be nice to know if there is anything at all other then code readouts, sound morse and lamp morse
Second, it would be nice to know if 4/5 invalid codes from lamp morse are just invalid, or do we have to decrypt them further
Third, it would be nice to know how to find the decrypting method
These are presumably the questions
severe lava
Strongly agree with the questions.
However maybe we give them some time to check the pings already sent.
I think they will get to them in due time.
halcyon glade
The vote will be here for 3.5 hours
So if they won't respond, we will consult with Puppet about asking them again
Also I think we only pinged Tommy, and he is on vacation, so I don't think he'll check today
severe lava
Fair enough, sounds like a good plan.
rapid talon
First of all, it would be nice to know if there is anything at all other then co...
Fourth, what's the name of the humanoid on the wrist?
halcyon glade
I bet that one is gonna be left unanswered, we cannot know too much
ionic remnant
By the way what humanoid are you guys talking about can you circle it?
Can't see it for some reason
lime fjord
So what's about it
halcyon glade
About what?
lime fjord
This thing
halcyon glade
Well nothing
I just found it when someone sent high contrast version of the picture
Here
versed fossil
https://tenor.com/view/illuminati-all-seeing-eye-pyramid-triangle-gif-19087437
Shshshsh, this was the plan all along. You can't reveal my plans
Fuck, I forgot to turn off the ping, sorry
versed fossil
Aight!
I'll be lurking if you need anything
I've got some free time before I need to go cinema
amber ember
what movie?
halcyon glade
@soft magnet We have collectively decided that we need to ask the community managers for hints. Since now is their worktime, we thought it would be the best time to talk to them. You said that before we ping anyone, we should ping you. So I did exactly that.
halcyon glade
First of all, it would be nice to know if there is anything at all other then co...
These are the questions
versed fossil
what movie?
Beetle juice 2! No idea if it's gonna be any good but I'm a beetle juice fanatic sooooo
versed fossil
<@642062430502912050> We have collectively decided that we need to ask the commu...
(Ty for pinging properly and taking the precautions btw)
halcyon glade
Decrypting secrets and creating jokes
We have already created the horse and the humanoid
rapid talon
do the community managers know
halcyon glade
About what?
wicked fable
severe lava
About what?
About all this horsing around.
rapid talon
But you can let them know when we get their attention
we have to first ask them the name of the humanoid and do we get a kingdom for a horse
then when they question us we will gatekeep the answers
until they give us clues
halcyon glade
They can just read this thread and get the only answers we have
rapid talon
No.
halcyon glade
We can ping them tomorrow
rapid talon
that's true
rapid talon
they will just probably answer that they can't give any clues yet
they are working???
First of all, it would be nice to know if there is anything at all other then code readouts, sound morse and lamp morse
Second, it would be nice to know if 4/5 invalid codes from lamp morse are just invalid, or do we have to decrypt them further
Third, it would be nice to know how to find the decrypting method Fourth, what's the name of the humanoid? Fifth, would you give a kingdom for me if I gave you a horse?
halcyon glade
First of all, it would be nice to know if there is anything at all other then code readouts, sound morse and lamp morse
Second, it would be nice to know if 4/5 invalid codes from lamp morse are just invalid, or do we have to decrypt them further
Third, it would be nice to know how to find the decrypting method
Fourth, what's the name of the humanoid?
Fifth, would you give a kingdom for me if I gave you a horse?
halcyon glade
First of all, it would be nice to know if there is anything at all other then co...
Tip: You can use "shift+enter" on pc to space stuff out like that
And not like that
rapid talon
ty
please ping me if you find something important i will be translating a book so my phone should be nearby
halcyon glade
Can anyone make out the words after the "the whiteout is coming, while the storms lasts, you can listen to a special music programme"? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmh-sN5ZNPY&t=3240s - link to that segment in day 2)
rapid talon
no idea
lime fjord
what if you try to get freq map of that audio
rapid talon
but it isn't a visual clue🤓
rapid talon
Ping them right after they start working tomorrow
Being silent is a sign of acceptance. - G. J. Caesar
halcyon glade
puppet didnt respond so far
We could ping him again now, he is online
rapid talon
First of all, it would be nice to know if there is anything at all other then co...
@soft magnet can we ask the community managers this? sorry for the ping
if yes we will ping them when they start working at 9
halcyon glade
<@642062430502912050> We have collectively decided that we need to ask the commu...
The first message pinging you explaining why
rapid talon
maybe he isn't working
lime fjord
or we just annoyed them pretty badly lol
halcyon glade
I hope not
wet grotto
most likely those keys got revoked, devs can do that when doing time-limited events
thats why they are invalid
lime fjord
nah no way we did that for nothing
lime fjord
thats why they are invalid
they were invalid during the radio
a tad early to remove them dont you think
and still if secrets arent dealt with + they didnt give us tips yet
why would they revoke them
wet grotto
well in that case the cipher must be trivial, if one key is true while four are false then the active key should be the key do decode the others
i dont think there is any other secrets in that transmission
the "e y e " was just a simple clue that it was the lamp obviously
the questions to devs were interpreted wrong and they actually answered everything from the day 1
ive been trying everything during past few days, the enigma I, the caesar, vigenere, the old manual cipher from old secrets in 2021, nothing works
lime fjord
well in that case the cipher must be trivial, if one key is true while four are ...
honestly good point
but dunno how we could use that
#1286444796084224073 message
relink
so d3 has valid of
.... -- -. -... --. . -- - .-- -..- .-- --... ----- .--- ----.
HMNBG-EMTWX-W70J9
what can we even do with it
wet grotto
there was a secret channel in discord
i dunno where it is now but someone made a secret messages using basic alphabet
and numeration of letters
one sec
wet grotto
while everyone rushed to enigma and other ciphers the solution was actually pretty simple
the original code was made of numbers (i suppose,cant confirm cuz its deleted now) and the output was a sentence. The blacks are the truth letters used in decoded output, while the reds were the original ciphered input (from numbers that corresponed to letters) in different quantities
that was the decoded answer
lime fjord
interesting
halcyon glade
Were these "wrong" codes interpreted correctly and confirmed to be working?
lime fjord
perhaps decoding might also not be solution in our situation
wet grotto
I honestly dont want to believe that devs would go that far to make encryption so hard for evereone just to hide the last copies of base game afterall. Tommy already said there is no deluxe in any of them. They wanted the codes to be grabbed in the corresponding days just like any others, and then they got surprired some of codes are still active and gave straight hints in stream chat that they exist in visuals. So its either the human error in light bulb coding, or there is indeed a hidden puzzle, 50% to 50%
lime fjord
thats what we wanna find out
wet grotto
If the puzzle is true, then i really want to know the solution by now, i can't rest peacefully without knowing how they did it 😆
lime fjord
we have been discussing that for last few days
halcyon glade
thats what we wanna find out
Yeah
halcyon glade
If the puzzle is true, then i really want to know the solution by now, i can't r...
That's what we are doing
steep holly
The fact that exactly 4 codes on each day were "wrong" irks me to no end
halcyon glade
Although we sorta gave up
lime fjord
The fact that exactly 4 codes on each day were "wrong" irks me to no end
TRUE
SO DAMN TRUE
halcyon glade
1 5 4
steep holly
Was gonna spend the day trying everything
halcyon glade
The correct ones
halcyon glade
No
lime fjord
just random guess
halcyon glade
I mean 1st on day 1, 5th on day 2 and 4th on day 3
halcyon glade
It does
That's why we are trying to get Puppet's attention
So that we get permission to ping one of the community managers
halcyon glade
I honestly dont want to believe that devs would go that far to make encryption s...
Actually they probably didn't want the codes to be grabbed immediately
When Tommy responded (I think that was like 20th or 21st) he told us that they don't want to reveal everything too soon
halcyon glade
I guess so
We only need to get in touch with them
Tbh, if it was just a human error, I'd like to actually get some encrypted stuff (without any real value, lore things) to solve
lime fjord
i guess id still be interested to get chance for keys
wet grotto
Only 12 codes left huh
lime fjord
if others somehow didnt solve them
steep holly
Only 12 codes left huh
Are we even sure there are 12 codes maybe someone brute forced or figured it out and nabbed one
halcyon glade
We won't know until we decrypt them
Or find out that it was an error and those are just invalid and there's nothing more
halcyon glade
Or find out that it was an error and those are just invalid and there's nothing ...
That would honestly be frustrating
Since we tried so many things
graceful orchid
hey, i just did a full frame by frame of Day 1 Lamp 4, and i got the same code as we already had for that day. it is, of course, invalid
halcyon glade
How much time did that take?
graceful orchid
How much time did that take?
3 hours…
halcyon glade
Damn
graceful orchid
it wasn’t a pleasant experience.
halcyon glade
That's longer than fully deciphering all of the 3rd stream
graceful orchid
yeah lmao
halcyon glade
it wasn’t a pleasant experience.
I bet it wasn't
halcyon glade
That's longer than fully deciphering all of the 3rd stream
That took me like 2 hours
Or maybe even less
I don't remember
graceful orchid
to be fair, it took me that long because i had to figure out how i was going to write down the frames
i had to figure out a full system for it first, and i didn’t think to come up with a system before starting
1-26 0-7 1-9 0-23 1-8 0-6 1-8 0-7 1-7 0-8 1-25 0-24 1-25 0-8 1-7 0-8 1-25 0-9 1-25 0-24 1-8 0-6 1-8 0-7 1-26 0-7 1-8 0-25 1-26 0-7 1-26 0-8 1-27 0-10 1-26 0-9 1-8 0-55 1-21 0-9 1-26 0-9 1-8 0-7 1-8 0-6 1-9 0-24 1-26 0-8 1-9 0-9 1-26 0-26 1-8 0-6 1-8 0-6 1-9 0-6 1-8 0-8 1-26 0-24 1-9 0-8 1-26 0-8 1-26 0-25 1-8 0-6 1-8 0-6 1-9 0-6 1-8 0-5 1-9 0-54 1-9 0-5 1-9 0-6 1-8 0-6 1-9 0-6 1-8 0-24 1-8 0-7 1-26 0-8 1-26 0-9 1-26 0-24 1-9 0-7 1-26 0-8 1-26 0-7 1-8 0-24 1-26 0-9 1-26 0-24 1-8 0-7 1-9 0-8 1-26 0-8 1-26 0-10 1-26 0-109 END?
then i had to turn this string into a more readable format
which took a good 15 min on its own
and i went back to check for errors a couple times through
graceful orchid
i did at first, but its actually much harder on paper for me
halcyon glade
Would be easier
halcyon glade
i did at first, but its actually much harder on paper for me
Okay then
Do you need an update on stuff that happend today by the way?
graceful orchid
yes please
halcyon glade
Well
graceful orchid
any luck decrypting?
halcyon glade
I started a vote on if we should ping the community managers, it passed with 100% yes (10 people voted)
Then I pinged Puppy
Unfortunately, we got no response
graceful orchid
oof
graceful orchid
theyre not online right now, it might take them a while to be
halcyon glade
We should ping him again tomorrow
graceful orchid
i agree
okay, i am heading out now. doing the frame by frame took up a lot of time and i need to do actual work today
best of luck with decrypting!
halcyon glade
Best of luck with your work!
graceful orchid
puppet is online
versed fossil
I'm so thankful I have my vacation as an excuse to not do anything. Y'all are doing a whole lotta work for a whole lot a nothin /j/lh
More seriously, it is slightly upsetting to see such little progress but it just makes it all the more satisfying when you eventually figure something out
(maybe by then I'll be back and I can steal the credit 😎 )
fluid quail
but that 4/5 invalid really makes me think its not an error in lamps
My thought was that it could be linked to the code format, we got 5 codes every day for 3 days, just like the 3x5 codes on Steam.
I thought it could be something like using the 1st symbol of part 1, 5th symbol of part 2 and 4th symbol of part 3 from the valid one on each day to the invalid ones of the day. But on the other hand I'm dumb as bricks and don't know cyphers so this is probably the most incorrect and stupid thing possible
stark cloak
Intretsing
steep holly
Nothing is too wild of a theory atm, as we cannot tell what is currently preventing us from correctly reading the other 4 codes
wet grotto
Lets just find something unusual until we get any answer from mods, maybe it will help us identify the pattern and thus decoding methods
That guy mentioned the gaps, he was right about it
This is the original image from Frost Radio channel, no gaps
When i tried decoding in Enigma 1, i thought of rotor amount to be 3 because there's three waves/circles coming from the radio tower, then at first test iteration, the ring position - that gif got amount of flashing waves and lighting, and whats important they are actually separate - circles flashed 9 times and the lightings did ~8, and also there are 6 lightings total . the amount of lighting piercing the outer ring of that logo was II, I, III (rotor type)
and used EYE as 5 25 5 for the second setting which i think was ring position
ofc it didnt worked
Another thing thats unusual is if you calculate every single lamp code, some letters are missing, i dont know if it was mentioned before
Missing number 1, missing letters: I, O, S, U
rn im out of ideas, if you got anything to share feel free
Oh and i choose Enigma I because its exact time when FP2 timeline takes place (1916, 30 years after FP1) and that machine first prototype was invented, with UKW A reflector. No plugboard entires because history says only military could use it
graceful orchid
Missing number 1, missing letters: I, O, S, U
worked on that a couple days ago, trying to cross reference letters that appear in valid codes vs those which don’t in invalid codes. couldn’t find anything
steep holly
Curious if they added codes that could not be completed until the final day of transmissions, when they mentioned codes still existing before the final transmission was aired
If not then they are self contained per day?
wet grotto
If not then they are self contained per day?
Exactly, i believe they wanted us to figure this out per one transmission, not when we get all the codes. Perhaps one key relates as deciphering key but only to corresponding days
I.e. day 1 valid key will help solve other day 1 keys, and so on, but not the other days
things like this going by "first come first served" rules, grab everything asap, but this lamp thing is overkill 😆
So i just say, maybe we are just overthinking it. Better not to do a lot of unneccessary work. Lets just hope they give us something tomorrow
Without proper directions we will just run in circles
soft magnet
Oh boy
soft magnet
there was a secret channel in discord
this was a old event done a while back that has nothing to do with this, all of it was ran by lieutenant and not the team on this one
soft magnet
<@642062430502912050> can we ask the community managers this? sorry for the pin...
I mean, sure? But they gave you a response last time
lime fjord
Well that was last time
maybe now they willing to give some tips as a few days passed
steep holly
Or some confirmation that the other 4 lamp messages each day are NOT just morse code as well
rapid talon
ping them on general when they start working
rapid talon
First of all, it would be nice to know if there is anything at all other then co...
this is what will be pinged
rapid talon
I mean, sure? But they gave you a response last time
This time we have a list of questions