2D Signboard sprites

[red meadow]

I'd basically like to know if it'd be possible to make a custom actor which lets me use all of these arrow signboards in a single level, something similar to MeroMero's signboard upgrade hack

[eager marten]

i can give it a shot, i have a bit of experience with nsbtx

[tender bear]

-# i want a nsbtx actor tutorial so i can make decoration actors 🥺

[eager marten]

truly

[red meadow]

Yeah, I probably should have provided the signboards in separate images :P, I also wanted to make at least three more with images of Mario groundpounding or walljumping (and also the un-walkable palm tree one) but I'm too lazy to make those

[spice berry]

-# I can make you one if I get back home from school

[eager marten]

-# what is that ''if'' supposed to mean.....

[red meadow]

Nah, it's okay, I'm fine with the ones I provided

[spice berry]

50/50 that I will survival graphics lesson (we're doing calendar lmao)

[dull lark]

I already have an actor which literally does this, I can tidy it up and add it to my GitHub if you want

[eager marten]

@red meadow here ya go, just change ''File ID'' in the .cpp to be the same as the signboard nsbtx

preview

(do let me know if theres any issues though)

oh also type this in stageobjsettings_new.xml if you wanna make changing it easier, i also added the extra option of moving it 8 pixels to the right

-# long ahh list

[normal cobalt]

oh wait it's already done?!

patching it as soon as i can

[tender bear]

Ill Usei it

Wich actor it replace

[eager marten]

woulda been done maybe an hour-ish ago, its just that i went to eat and got distracted lmao

[eager marten]

253 and obj info 163

(the same as the flower coin 😭)

[normal cobalt]

no i thought it would take days for someone to do it lol 😭

[eager marten]

but i can change it to another one u can replace that isnt used

[eager marten]

oh damn

[red meadow]

No way y'all derpos are stealing my idea >:( /j

[red meadow]

Also thanks man! You have no idea how useful this is

[tender bear]

Replace actor 270 obj 98 🥺

[eager marten]

i might aswell extend this at some point and put it in #1207793065524199455, probably making it feature pipes or something too since i already have a semi-fixed pipe nsbtx which makes adding palettes easier too

[eager marten]

alr

[normal cobalt]

i wanted it to get fixed a while ago, it's just that nobody made a custom actor for it or anything ;-;

[tender bear]

YUPPIII

[tender bear]

Ill use it for another purpose in ssmb

Such as decoration

[normal cobalt]

https://discord.com/channels/399424476259024897/1218964847522484265

[eager marten]

-# btw you can always just add more sprites to the nsbtx and either change the nybble or add more options in the xml so u can change it, just aslong as the sprite is 32x32

[tender bear]

Advices for itens needed (acorn/boomerang)

Danger areas

Bushes

[normal cobalt]

you're saying it's easy to add more textures??

[tender bear]

Star coin hiding (classic)

[normal cobalt]

also Illy had a similar code hack but with also animated stuff iirc

[tender bear]

I mean, today i modified my muncher actor so it allow another frame

And it works

[normal cobalt]

oh nice

[red meadow]

Also @eager marten I imagine I needa place the util folder in the source folder too right?

[tender bear]

Yea

[eager marten]

yup

or u can just put the whole ''ExtraSignboard'' folder in the source folder and it would still work

[eager marten]

also yeah u can just add the sprite to the nsbtx in nitropaint and then all u would need to do is change the nybble (or edit the xml to add more options which is also easy)

[normal cobalt]

okay then!!

could be used for the custom pipes as well?

[eager marten]

ye

[normal cobalt]

or did you plan to make a separate actor for that?

[eager marten]

(i think...)

[tender bear]

@eager marten what i put in the code to change the replacement to actor 270 object 98?

[eager marten]

i was gonna make them a separate actor instead of the same one since with the nsbtx i used its more complex to make it

[normal cobalt]

oh okay

[tender bear]

On the adresses i mean

[eager marten]

0x02039db4 (actor)
0x020c5a44, 0 (object info)

[normal cobalt]

also what about vram, is it easy to overload it with your custom actor or not?

[tender bear]

Oki, thanks!!

[eager marten]

that idk but i used tex4x4 to compress ztar's signboards since they have 256+ colors

you wouldnt have too many of the signboards onscreen regardless but just a safety measure .p

[normal cobalt]

okay

[eager marten]

(i also heard that this format takes the least vram so maybe that helps too)

[normal cobalt]

hopefully

[dull lark]

you should add gravity to those

it would make them more useful

[eager marten]

havent dug into physics yet but i'll give it a shot sometime

[dull lark]

all you need to do is add the bottom sensor stuff, run the function to set up the bottom sensor in on create, then run these three in update main

[eager marten]

alr ima try doing it in a bit

also forgot to mention but if you want to know how the sign is placed then heres a way of imagining it

[tender bear]

It would be cool if nsmbe was like regie and we could add custom icons

[red meadow]

Man, this is so beautiful, I'm so happy with this 🥹

Frosty, you saved my life

[tender bear]

MINE TOO

I ALSO NEEDED THAT

Ops capslock

Give him the programmer role guys

[dull lark]

thats smth really basic to do

you need to know reverse engineering for that role

thats why fuzzy doesnt have it

[tender bear]

Ohhhh

How he get the adresses btw?

[eager marten]

yeah lol

[eager marten]

will told me how to calculate the addresses so I just used that n it works

(that’s the only asm related thing ik lmao)

[red meadow]

Hmmm, I dunno how easy/feasible this is, but would it be possible to make it so you can preview the different signboards in NSMBe like in MeroMero's signboard hack? Because for me it's a little bit akward seeing multiple spiked blocks in the editor ;P

[eager marten]

idk how to mod nsmbe so not sure about that lol

best i could give was that one explanation of the spiked block being the bottom left tile of the signboard

[red meadow]

Yeah, no worries, I was asking if someone else would know how to do it

[eager marten]

btw, testing gravity (thanks illy for telling me how to do it!!)
gonna tidy up the code and send it soon

i also realized that i did an oopsie with the list and you couldnt pick the mega mushroom by selecting it (you had to manually edit the nybble) 🥴

[normal cobalt]

this is sick!! tho idk if killing the signboard when hit from below is a good idea

also is gravity optional or are all signboards affected by gravity?

[eager marten]

yeah that appeared alongside the gravity, not sure how to fix it..

[eager marten]

optional

[normal cobalt]

okay then!!

[eager marten]

@normal cobalt @tender bear @red meadow

xml settings

[tender bear]

YEYYYY!!!

[normal cobalt]

with gravity stuff?

[red meadow]

Just in time cuz I was gonna patch the rom again, lol

[eager marten]

yep

-# btw something super stupid, but if you want a decoration that is bigger than 32x32 you can always split it into multiple sprites (even if it sucks to do that)

[normal cobalt]

i'm not sure what extra deco to add now ;-;

[eager marten]

honestly same, I want to give this actor more stuff but idk what 😭

[odd oar]

Override onBlockHit

[normal cobalt]

i'm getting an error when trying to import this :/

it tells me that util/nsbtx.hpp doesn't exist

oh nvm it's in the zip file

[normal cobalt]

it's just that i thought those files were everything (except the nsbtx)

[normal cobalt]

seems like their gravity doesnt get shifted properly when the graphics are shifted by 8 pixels to the right

[eager marten]

oh wait really? i'll look into it soon

[eager marten]

i'll take the time aswell to fix this

[normal cobalt]

yeah. i'd suggest to make it so the gravity "hitbox" becomes only the center 16x16 tile when it's shifted by half a tile

[dull lark]

The bottom sensor probably just needs to be shrunk a bit

Check it with the collision viewer lua script

[eager marten]

its already that way though thats why im confused lol

actually yeah i'll do what illy said just to make sure

[normal cobalt]

oh okay

it could be maybe like a very very small measurement unit that gets detected as floor which prevents it from falling

[normal cobalt]

sorry for bumping the thread but i have a question about this: does the texture (if you add more textures) strictly has to be 2x2 for it to work properly? or can you do something like 4x2? also is it possible to use a texture that has semi-transparency?

[empty drum]

Yes, it probably is

[normal cobalt]

respectfully, shut up

[normal cobalt]

i guess i can also just try to find out

[tender bear]

I think it need to be 32x32 strictly

Thats what i had to do when using it for 2-train

[normal cobalt]

by 2x2 i meant 2x2 in 16x16 tiles. tho i'm guessing you understood that

[tender bear]

Yup ik

[normal cobalt]

okay. so it can't be 64x32 for example?

[tender bear]

Nope, ig it can if you edit the code, but not sure how to make it only affect a specific texture

[normal cobalt]

okay then. thanks!!

[tender bear]

I knew doing it, but i forgot since theres a while i dont mess with nsbtx

[normal cobalt]

it's okay. i'll work with it

[spice berry]

remember yall that i can recreate the original sing boards and make them with custom sprite on it if yall dont want wii version

[tender bear]

Could u make the arrow ones?

Only them

[normal cobalt]

it's the nsmb2 version, but okay, tho i don't need it

[spice berry]

yeah whatever, just the furure games

[spice berry]

I promise that i will do it on saturday since i have time then

[normal cobalt]

they look pretty different tho (and match the nsmbds style a bit more imo)

-# edited the message from "ds" to "nsmbds" to not receive hate...

[normal cobalt]

i... didn't see this message (before bumping the thread)

[tender bear]

Oki ^^

[red meadow]

Never makes them

[spice berry]

I have predicted this comment the moment I said that

[red meadow]

And I predict that you will never make the improved signboards

-# (I actually need improved signboards too because the ones I'm using in my hack are low quality, lol)

[spice berry]

yeah, because I will leave

[normal cobalt]

i'm kinda afraid that adding too much textures will explode vram or something

i don't wanna end up with a ssmb situation 😭

like uh... adding 9 textures for example

[eager marten]

you could always like nuke the textures from the signboard u don’t use lol

and only add textures when you really need/will use em

[eager marten]

u also don’t need to change the nsmbe settings (other than for organization) if you do this btw

[normal cobalt]

for now they work it seems at least

[normal cobalt]

okay so i tested, and the game can have all of them at once

[normal cobalt]

dang it now i have a problem: they get killed by the flagpole when you complete the level (like regular enemies)

could someone fix that please?

i know meromero has made a similar code hack for his custom signboards

[eager marten]

oh I’ll fix it later

ill also take this opportunity to fix something gravity related that I heard some of y’all point out I think

[normal cobalt]

related to the 1/2 tile shift?

[eager marten]

Yup