Sakura SMB DS

[remote star]

Because if mario remove the hat the head would be weird

In my mod mario should never remove the hat, or we will see a small helmet mario head (its smaller than small mario, and it looks funny)

https://youtu.be/a9DAdjgJPbw?si=PigThg3Xzg3rd1Bd

Ops

Got it

[remote star]

What yall think of this view?

[trail vapor]

wdym by "this view"?

the background?

[remote star]

Yeah

[trail vapor]

looks pretty good! though it feels like you're going for a sunset feel. it doesn't feel too much like sunset imo, more like afternoon or smth

i'd suggest making it more orange

[remote star]

I did it for look more a afternoon/dusk

The sunset feeling is more for level 1

The bg on level 1 i mean

[trail vapor]

oh okay

well it works then, though the sunset lightning feels a bit off/unnecessary here

[remote star]

I had a cool title screen concept, according to the player beat w1, w2 and w3 castles and w5 tower and final bowserthe stars that the player rescued would apear in the title screen (the main one) and when the player 100% the game the title screen change the bg and such, having a shining sakura token in the bottom right corner and falling pink stars above the logo, meaning that the player did everything on the game and solved the plot

Ofc, i would use a sprite for the star since the model i use is overpoly

[trail vapor]

could be nice (tho it needs code hacks)

[remote star]

Yeah

So, does this looks convincing at least?

The star is painted this way since bowser want to use it to destroy everything

[trail vapor]

interesting

[trail vapor]

oh cool, floating platform

i kinda feel like the purple on the head is too purple tho

[remote star]

Its on 3-ship, but i added the área for a test in 3-B too

[trail vapor]

oh ok

[remote star]

Its for make it diferent from bowser

[trail vapor]

dark bowser jr is pretty cool

[trail vapor]

maybe try using the same color as the shell though, or a similar one

[remote star]

Yeah, i would like to make it for bowser too

Its kinda black

So it would not really fit

[trail vapor]

kinda like this color

or the problem is that the head is a bit too saturated compared to the rest of the texture

[remote star]

Yeah thats true

Fly guy is flying

[trail vapor]

🤯

[remote star]

It would be cool if i could make bowser jr throw fireballs like new smb wi

wi

Imo Jr figths is so easy

[trail vapor]

bowser jr can do that in nsmbwii?

oh wait the clown car

[sweet owl]

I have tried to make him through bombs instead of shells once, I didnt get very far

[remote star]

Yup

[remote star]

I see

[trail vapor]

dang, could have been fun

[remote star]

I think that Jr is the most messed up actor in the whole game

[sweet owl]

I could probably pull it off now but I dont have much times these days

[remote star]

True

[sweet owl]

he isnt

[remote star]

Oh oki

[fickle sphinx]

i think if you want a more difficult fight designing a boss from scratch might be better

[remote star]

Yeah thats true, i wanted to make all my bossea customized tbh, the castle bosses, final boss and airship bosses (it could be a clown car Jr)

[fickle sphinx]

do you have someone that can make code hacks for all that

[sweet owl]

Have fun getting somebody to code the bosses, I havent even started the thwomp boss

I plan on doing it in a few months when I am on school holidays

or if I somehow end up in a psychward again

[remote star]

I would probably ask you or will Smith for bosses, since i dont know any other people that make good code hacks lol, but my bosses will be the og game one (except w3) but with a hard room

[remote star]

And the final boss because the og game one is not even a boss

(The final boss will be a smw final fight but whatever)

[sweet owl]

Im going to say this now

dont get your hopes up with what we can code

we can try but we cant confirm that we can do it

[remote star]

I see

I mean, for code hacks i dont see any other that i will use since i already have a lot of stuff to work with, and i can make good levels with, the only ones are really the boomerang, the 2 bosses and (probably, idk if i will really need it) the special world code to change the map after beating the game, but im really thinking in make the special world a really opcional world, instead of the main plot of the game

_ _

I will probably turn it into a nsmbw-ish star road

The only true thing that i really need to in my mod is to finish the levels (fear)

But guys, One question, answer honestly, do you guys think my level design is good? Like, from what I showed in videos and such, what do you guys think?

[trail vapor]

I think it's mostly good, and looks fun. It sometimes needs minor improvements here and there, has some extra type of enemies/gimmicks added in the level that aren't necessary, as well as maybe the camera needing improvements, but apart from that, it seems to be good!!

[remote star]

I see, thx a lot 🙂

[trail vapor]

you're welcome :D

-# i just realized that i didnt have to reply to the message lol

[remote star]

-# me when:

[remote star]

Guys, for the special world, should i remake the star road, keep it as it is or create a new special world idea?

[remote star]

Ops wrong chat

[trail vapor]

Maybe some sort of "hidden sakura land"? some sakura-themed map on a small island, kinda as if it was separated from the rest of the sakura land or village

[remote star]

Ohhhhhh

Yeah it can be a really good deal

[trail vapor]

thanks!

[remote star]

I feel like that i was about to do something in the mod but i forget it, idk why im like this, but im really motivated to make levels today lol

[remote star]

Guess who added more shit in the tileset?

[trail vapor]

you, added more crap to the tileset

[remote star]

Yeah 😀 👍

I HAVE MENTAL ILLNESSES, I HAVE MENTAL ILLNESSES!!!!!

[remote star]

I will make something in my shurikens for make it a bit visible im dark anbiances

[trail vapor]

lmao

[remote star]

I would like that nsmbds had a resizable water like nsmbw

[trail vapor]

i mean water tiles exist

though they dont have animations and the default ones are also kinda buggy

[sweet owl]

I have been wanting to code them but its to much math

[remote star]

I see

[remote star]

I could do this with more sakura levels or with random level themes?

[trail vapor]

both i guess, thats however you want

[remote star]

I plan adding one level called "sakura"

That will have a lot of ideas used in the whole game

[remote star]

I give a special name to the pink shy guy

"Sakura Shy Guy"

[brittle rivet]

👌

[remote star]

Leafs

[remote star]

Is it just me or does volcano lava looks like a delicious food? I think that i have serious mental problems lmfao

[remote star]

1-3 finished

[remote star]

This level you need to play as luigi to pick up the last star coin, otherwise you cant pick it, i will make it in some levels for "force" the player to swap between mario and luigi

I even put it higher for make the player need to use luigi in this

[sweet owl]

You could probably jump of the wiggler when its on the bridge as mario, also I dont recommend forcing a character for star coins, its something I hated about mario 3d world

[crimson dome]

The level is really cool but I'm not a big fan of character-specific star coins

[remote star]

I see

[trail vapor]

i'll try giving feedback later, i dont have enough force to do so rn

[crimson dome]

Also, the second star coin is a bit inconvenient imo, how is the player supposed to guess that some blocks will spawn after collecting the star coin?

[remote star]

Thats the point

The player will need to trust the level and jump there

But he also can grab a koopa shell

Thats why i put some there

[elder crystal]

love the level's atmosphere

[remote star]

Same lol

It gives me some nostalgia from newer wii too

[elder crystal]

do you want me to make the player always backflip on level completion? so he doesn't do the hat removal animation for no reason?

[remote star]

Yeah it would be cool

My hack have one from illy that only do this for the blue shell but it would be cool on the other itens instead of hat removal (at this time i just made mario dont remove the hat since it was a old code from this mod)

[sweet owl]

I do it for everything

newer does the backflips for only the blueshell

[elder crystal]

could you send me the no cap shell code I made for you? i don't think i have it anymore

[remote star]

Sure

Yo the mod have already 9 done levels

Almost a entire world

(All my worlds except the special have 9 levels lol)

[fickle sphinx]

jpg i only ever play as mario this would make me have an aneurysm if i was going in blind

[remote star]

LMAO

[plush jasper]

Same

Luigi always whinin, Mario is a chad

[fickle sphinx]

nah luigis good

but hes like

a lil too good

he makes too easy to get most star coins n it feels like a cheat

[sweet owl]

I like Madeline, her physicas are better than both Mario and Luigi

[remote star]

Ztardust or DM, wich are all the nsmbw/2 beach bgs (or the ones you know) on nsmbhd?

And mountain bgs too

I really need to check stuff of beach bgs and mountain bgs for make a sakura background that dont is crappy

[crimson dome]

I only know two beach BG's, a top one from NSMBWii and a bottom one from NSMB2

[remote star]

The top bg is good tbh, but the bottom one.... fear

[crimson dome]

And as for the mountains background there's one a top and a bottom one and they are from NSMB2

[remote star]

You could link both if you have those?

I got a blueshell on my galery for some reason

[crimson dome]

These

[remote star]

Yoo thx!!!! 🙂

[crimson dome]

I'm kinda tempted to use both of those BG's in my hack cuz the beach background I made doesn't really convince me

[crimson dome]

Nah I just imported the first background in NSMBe and it looks terrible 💀

[remote star]

I did this as a bottom bg

[remote star]

LMAOOOO

[crimson dome]

It'd probably be better to use NitroPaint or manually reduce the tiling

[remote star]

Thats my tequinique

[plush jasper]

Didn't you use Nitropaint?

[crimson dome]

I tried but the background just looks worse

I guess this bg has way too many tiles

[plush jasper]

yeah looks like it

[trail vapor]

I really like the way it looks tho

It feels 3d

[trail vapor]

The level is overall very good!
Not really a fan of the 2nd and 3rd star coins tho

For the second star coin, you could place something like donut blocks

For the 3rd star coin, idk, but make it so it doesn't require Luigi

I really like the overall feel of the level tho

Just one little detail: i'd suggest making a mirrored variation of the tree in the Map16 if you still have space. this could give a bit of diversity for the trees

[fickle sphinx]

yeah i agree about the 2nd star coin

3rd star coin also seems pretty simple disregarding the needing luigi part but ig thats prolly fine for 1-3

also wanted to mention some of the deco tiling seems odd in some places

mainly just trees where they couldt really logically grow

[trail vapor]

not sure how the first one is wrong tho

the barrier?

[fickle sphinx]

just having two trunks looks a bit off i feel

and yeah the fence too

[trail vapor]

oh ok

[trail vapor]

for me its fine

[fickle sphinx]

fair

[crimson dome]

Decentered tiles AAAAAAAAA

[remote star]

[remote star]

@fickle sphinx sorry for the ping, but you know any nsmbhd post that have a grroll and fuzzy models in nsmbhd?

[trail vapor]

i know that sma+take 2 replaces spike tops with fuzzies

tho idk if there's a proper post for it

[remote star]

Spike tops will be the sunballs from smw

[trail vapor]

ok

[remote star]

I did stuff for the end of the level flags

One says "終わり!" (End!) And the other says "終わり?" (End?)

[trail vapor]

oh nice

[remote star]

I will try finishing 2-3

[remote star]

Im really seeing that im not good at water levels 😭

I should learn more level desing later

[fickle sphinx]

found a thread saying endless earth has a groll model

cant remember if everything from endless earth is free to use or not off the top of my head tho

[remote star]

Nooooo i already stole them 😭

[brittle rivet]

Really nice idea mate!

[remote star]

Thx! 🙂

[remote star]

Guys, does water level need to be well detailed or not? Im a bit insecure about it in my mod

[remote star]

| {-} {□} { × }|
|Glitch found, report?|
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|[Yes] [no]|

I love how 1-4 on my game is actually 4-1 lol

Literally inverted

[remote star]

THE KOOPA IS FUCKING STARING AT THE BOTTOM OF MY SOUL

I DONT WANT TO HAVE THE SAME NIGHTMARE AS CROOK 😭

😭 😭 😭

WHYYYY

Guys what about adding some effect in this waterfall?

Something like this

[remote star]

Howsit lookin?

Remember the top minis i added loooooong time ago? Well

[remote star]

Also, im think in using fnaf 3 "happiest day" (bad ending) in the game over screen lmfao

https://youtu.be/OY8nuV9q-qo?si=8B3rtKDwsbgst7oF

[remote star]

Wich one is better?
I personally preffer the first one

[remote star]

Btw im finishing 2-3

(Finally)

Later i will finish 3-3

And them 5-A

And after it i will start with 3-2

That will be the level with normal spikes

On w5 the level 5-C will be with bomb spikes

[remote star]

New details on the map!

[trail vapor]

nice!

the waterfall rotating feels pretty weird

[remote star]

I just ripped koopatlas stuff so meh

[remote star]

I wanted to make a vertical special world, but goombatlas dont even have the setting for it

A true shame

[rancid hare]

Cant wait to play it

[brittle rivet]

Fr

[remote star]

Im glad you guys like it 🙂

I created a fucking kaizo level 😭

[trail vapor]

shading on the ground please 😭

[remote star]

For some reason i want to hide a scary/unnerving easter egg into a enpg on the game files 😭

Sometimes i get scared of myself

I already hidden a fnaf meme on it

[remote star]

(Not really scary but a sm64 classified image)

[remote star]

I will do it i promisse 😭

[remote star]

guess who finished 2-3 but the game dont colaborate?

[trail vapor]

😭

does the game crash or smth

[remote star]

It crashes, but i fixed it

LMFAO THIS VIDEO ATTEMPT

"WHAT THE FUCK-"

[plush jasper]

brainrot

[remote star]

WHY THE GAME CRASHES WHEN I ENTER THE PIPE THIS DONT HAVE A LOGIC

[remote star]

True

[trail vapor]

lmfaoo

[remote star]

I added the flagpole on the level, and guess what happened? It crashed when i thouched it!

Why it happens??

Maybe its because the level is overloadaded with torpedos?

Or it dont make sense?

If sex in minecraft didn't existed this would never happened 😭

Guess what im going to do if i cant solve it? FUCKING SCRAPP THE LEVEL

Not going to scrapp, but i will need to redo everything

[remote star]

Yeah thats the problem

Lets redo the level

Its even good that i can make a better level desing

[trail vapor]

????

how is that even happening

[remote star]

I put like 01020202pp22929e92929e919eop193 torpedos in the level

[crimson dome]

Just reduce the amount of torpedoes, you don't have to redo an entire level, and you don't have to spam too many torpedoes

[trail vapor]

especially if you spam them as much as you did in the video

[remote star]

I will redoo the level since im feeling that it is too empty

[trail vapor]

kinda feel like an underwater level doesn't fit in a snow mountain tho

[crimson dome]

It could probably fit if you made an "Ice flooded cave" themed level, kinda like in DKC2

[remote star]

Thats the point of soda lagoon

[trail vapor]

probably

[rancid hare]

Phone: yeeted

[trail vapor]

pausing the game then stand on a slope and throw the phone and you'll clip through the floor

(mario sunshine reference)

[remote star]

Uploaded the source to Google drive

(It will be for a easier backup if needed)

[crimson dome]

I do that sometimes, lol

[remote star]

Same, more even that i plan making more hacks so i may need some code hacks i have here, but i do this more for dont lose stuff

[remote star]

My pc really blue screen-ed 2 times today lmfao

[brittle rivet]

Win 10?

[remote star]

Windows 7 lite (aka Windows Vista with win 7 retexture and modded to run more stuff)

[brittle rivet]

Bro tuned his Windows

[plush jasper]

wA-C???

[remote star]

Its a secret level

[remote star]

I beat my 3rd 100% save in newer ds, and now i 100% the game

[hidden widget]

everything KNOWS about that secret

[plush jasper]

I never knew

[remote star]

You need to press select and cancel select and cancel a lot of times in 8-4

[remote star]

I discovered it today

[remote star]

27 blue screens in 2 days

[trail vapor]

holy what

[remote star]

My pc is allergic to sakura smb openned in nsmbe for 4 hours

[trail vapor]

lmao

[crimson dome]

Bro 💀

[remote star]

I REPLACED A PLAYER MODEL HAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA IM CRAZYYY HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAJAAHHAAHAHAJAHAHAH dies

[trail vapor]

pretty cool

[remote star]

Thx! 🙂

[trail vapor]

tho i still feel like its a bad idea to replace luigi like that

[remote star]

Im adjusting the head now

[trail vapor]

i feel like a hack with yoshi and toad could do a better combo

[remote star]

I mean, almist everyone will play with mario, and this will be kinda a "easy mode" for my mod

[trail vapor]

then there's me constantly switching between the two

no seriously it just feels like a bad idea imo

[remote star]

I will ask Willian a code for this to work, it will be a code for make luigi dont pick any item, be always in the "big" form and only die for holes and other instant kill stuff

[remote star]

How many hacks have yoshi on nsmbds

And how many hacks have luigi

[trail vapor]

super mario bros

sakura smb

[remote star]

☹️

[elder crystal]

I think it's a fun idea

[crimson dome]

Is there even a context for Yoshi being playable on this hack though?

[elder crystal]

why not

[remote star]

Yeah, i mean, the island is next to dinossaur land, yoshi is a dinossaur

[trail vapor]

also, it feels like another of those ideas that you get on the moment

[remote star]

Ops wrong reply

[crimson dome]

I mean, it's technically not a bad idea, I just feels is a bit random

[trail vapor]

if you could still keep luigi playable that would be good tho

[remote star]

Yeah true

[elder crystal]

fuck luigi

[remote star]

But it would be hard to make 3 characters

[remote star]

No luigi on sakura smb ✔️

[remote star]

@elder crystal you could do this when you have time?

[trail vapor]

bad hack 0/10.
reason: no luigi

[remote star]

It will apear in the credits i promisse

I can put it on the Artwork like mario party 9 did too

[crimson dome]

Bad hack: 0/10.
Reason: No download link para android 😔

[elder crystal]

yes could be a fun challenge

[remote star]

YOOO THXXX 🙂

[remote star]

GRROOOOOLLLLLLL

[crimson dome]

Noice

[remote star]

Guys whats the luigi clear texture and palletes?

[fickle sphinx]

graphics should be in the obj folder

n i remember making a passive aggressive post about the palettes on nsmbhd so lemme check that rq

UI_O_1P_game_in_o_ud_ncl.bin

in the uistudio folder

16 colour mode

also outta curiosity did you get yoshis model from tmr or didja rip it yourself

[remote star]

I rip it from the nsmbds game files

[fickle sphinx]

oh gotcha

is it just the way the screenshot was taken or is he always looking left

[remote star]

The screenshot

[fickle sphinx]

ah

[crimson dome]

Huh? Where in the game is there a Yoshi model?

[remote star]

In a narc

[crimson dome]

And as for the clear text, they're in the "obj" folder, and they use the palette DM mentioned

[fickle sphinx]

minigame files id guess

[crimson dome]

Ooooh yeah, the Yoshi from the flower minigame right? I just remembered

[remote star]

Eggs ns

[remote star]

Yoshi is basically finished, i only need to add the sound effects and the code

[plush jasper]

what's this possibly about?

[trail vapor]

cool!!

i'll miss luigi tho

[remote star]

Some of them

Yoshi egg

[trail vapor]

write an "easy" text on it

[remote star]

OHHHHHH GOOD IDEA

I will add this at 1-1

[trail vapor]

nice

[bold kestrel]

rip luigi, November 2023 - August 2024

[remote star]

Sakura smbds now playable with a leaf

tested leaf models: boldo leaf

[trail vapor]

no way

[brittle rivet]

HAHAHAH BRO

WTF

[remote star]

The future of Nsmb modding

I added a totally new bg slot btw

Over the empty bgs

[remote star]

I wanted to use the purple one, but i need to ask first, wich one is better for a mountain tower (w3)

More tiles version

[trail vapor]

second one seems better for a mountain tower imo

and feels unique

[remote star]

Yeah true

[trail vapor]

i dont understand why you have multiple copies of those metallic spawner things

[crimson dome]

I also feel some 16x16 blocks are a bit redundant, mybe you could get rid of those

[trail vapor]

the 2x2 block with a circle is actually meant to be a 3x3 block in the original tileset, and this triggers me. it even looks differently resized

[crimson dome]

Yeah, same, it looks very odd

-# JPG using poorly resized tilesets as usual

[rancid hare]

You do realize you could’ve just copied your first pfp right

[fickle sphinx]

peachs face looks sorta doofy in that first sceenshot

[plush jasper]

How do you play the secret level? I still never played it before

[remote star]

It would be cheating

[remote star]

Press select (to select a character) and A (to chose the character) on the level intro scene like 20 times on 8-4

[remote star]

LMAOOOO

[remote star]

Sakura smb if i take damadge with yoshi: 🧊

[trail vapor]

lol

[remote star]

Bleh heh heh

(On the game it looks alright, i did this for smoothing the shading)

[fickle sphinx]

are you doing the count bleck laugh

[remote star]

Its not the origami king one?

Ngl the shading is so smoth

On the head

[remote star]

Thanks to will Smith that fixed the crash about luigi

[fickle sphinx]

looks swag

[remote star]

How can i edit the level entrances image??

[crimson dome]

Which image?

You mean the transitions or the screen before starting a level?

[remote star]

Yeah

[crimson dome]

Wdym by yeah? I mentioned two different things

If what you want to edit is the transitions, they're in "Window_LZ.bin" in the enemy folder

[remote star]

The head transitions

[remote star]

Gotcha

[crimson dome]

And I recommend NitroPaint for editing them

That file includes an unused Yoshi transition iirc, maybe you could use that

[remote star]

Yeah i was looking for it

Done, thanks man! 🙂

[crimson dome]

Np

[remote star]

Y

[remote star]

Guys, should be better i use the egg for the yoshi on checkpoint?

[fickle sphinx]

outta curiosity whas the mario checkpoint flag look like

for reference

[remote star]

Its the mario kart icon

The M

Like in the new mario series

The yoshi is like this, illy could also use it for her checkpoint

[crimson dome]

Yeah, I thinkt the egg icon is better than the Y

[hidden widget]

so true

[remote star]

Btw, is yoshi male or female? If its male, why the hell it put eggs? and if its female, how does it fertilize the eggs?

[plush jasper]

yoshi is yoshi

[remote star]

Yoshi is a pokemon

[somber siren]

Well, I'm not an expert, but I did a little research and Yoshi is male and reproduces asexually, meaning that he doesn't need to have sex with another Yoshi. And by the way, are there female Yoshis? I haven't seen any (I'm not counting Birdo, since she seems to be from a different species than Yoshi).

[remote star]

Ohhh gotcha

Yeah birdos are different species

[crimson dome]

Why tf are you talking about sex with Yoshis man? 💀

[elder crystal]

for science

[remote star]

^

Did you guys know that i did this thing for making the egg? Yes! I used a svg!!!

[somber siren]

I didn't just say that Yoshi is male

[somber siren]

exactly XD

[fickle sphinx]

ah gotcha

yeah id say the egg looks better

[remote star]

Small test level setted on w3-2, with the tileset and bgs that will be used on special - 2

Btw shaded fish

@crimson dome i will sent it on your DM btw 😉

[crimson dome]

Sure

[remote star]

I wanted to make my special world map model something like:

6 small islands, every island with the level tileset, a enemy on the ground, it would have also it own bg, that would be separated by clouds and a tree model, and every island would have water and sand bellow it ofc, and they would be conected by bridges, the islands would have diferent shapes n such, and on the shipwreck level instead of a normal island it would be a broken ship, it would be one of the most cool models i would make

But i would need to have all the special world levels theme for make it

So i wanted a sugestion of 3 more themes, the confirmed themes are:

Mountain level 1
Beach level 2
Autumn level 3
? Level 4
? Level 5
? Level 6

[trail vapor]

i was gonna suggest that, so definitely

[trail vapor]

ohh looks cool

[trail vapor]

is this model the rip from nsmbwii?

[remote star]

Nsmb2

[trail vapor]

oh ok

[fickle sphinx]

maybe you could try n change the stage lighting to something more blueish

to fit the night theming of the tileset n bg better

otherwise looks quite nice

[remote star]

I already ripped 2 bgs from awar rom, i need to stop doing shit 💀

[trail vapor]

stealing from the stealer

[fickle sphinx]

what bgs were they

[remote star]

The beach one and a autumn one

The only good bgs in the mod

[brittle rivet]

I NEED THIS TILESET FOR BEACHY SMB!!!

And the Checkpoint flag

[remote star]

I can extract it for u

[brittle rivet]

Would be very nice bro

[remote star]

U want the bgs too or only the tileset?

[remote star]

The checkpoint is a code hack that is not public, so i cant share it

[remote star]

He stealed people job, i stealed his bg

[brittle rivet]

What does this mesn?

[fickle sphinx]

do you know who theyre from

[crimson dome]

Illy coded the checkpoint for her hack and shared the code with Rex, so he's not allowed to share it I think

[remote star]

Aparently he did it

[remote star]

^

[remote star]

Here's the bg that i stole from the hack (aka stole fest)

[plush jasper]

no stealing

[remote star]

Funny how it matches the tileset lol

[plush jasper]

that looks like newer's bg but recolored?

[remote star]

Nah its not newer bg

Its a 3d render

[plush jasper]

yeah I missed the ground part of the bg

I thought it was the tileset

but that's bad

they look almost equal so the player might think he can walk and fall into the pit

[remote star]

Yeah lol

But the level will have water so its chill

[plush jasper]

I see

[remote star]

Ndy mario can i ask you a thing? Can i sent here the invite for the ssmb server and some admin pin it?

[fickle sphinx]

who

[remote star]

Awar

He probably did it with newer doodads

[fickle sphinx]

well like who made the bg is what im wondering

originally

[remote star]

Yeah same

Same with the beach with mountains one

[fickle sphinx]

if you dunno who made it originally you prolly shouldnt use it

in case its not meant to be free to use

[remote star]

Theres also the day variant

This one is made with random nsmbu textures

On nsmbhd you have a link of some short of "original location" of this bg?

[fickle sphinx]

i dont recognize these particular ones

especially not the autumn one

i could peek around for the mountain ones i suppose

[remote star]

Yeah it seens to be created by Anwar with newer doodads, theres a lot of identical stuff on it

[remote star]

Try doing it

If it's from a realeased mod i would really play it

[fickle sphinx]

oh i was planning on just checking the rips from newer nsmb titles thread

[crimson dome]

I'm 10000% sure those backgrounds aren't on NSMBHD

[fickle sphinx]

i see

[crimson dome]

My guessing would be that he either made them, he took them from many different places or they have a supersecret server where they share those backgrounds

[remote star]

3rd option maybe

[fickle sphinx]

since nobody knows for sure who or where they came from itd be best not to use them

even if they were from anwar i dont think stealing from someone elses hack just cause they stole stuff too is a good idea

[crimson dome]

Yeah, I agree, some of those backgrounds look nice but I don't think it's a good idea to grab them just like that

[remote star]

Special world themes update:

Level 1: mountain (crag)
Level 2: beach (night)
Level 3: autumn
Level 4: pumpkin boneyard
Level 5: Frosty Glacier
Level 6: ?

Someone have any ideas for Level 5 and level 6?

[brittle rivet]

5 some snowy things

[still roost]

Level 6 could maybe match what you have in the special world map, having the black and white ascetic and all that.

[remote star]

I will change the map of w6, and every island will have the level aesthetics

[remote star]

Yo good idea

Level 6 could be a level with the sakura theme being a special level

[brittle rivet]

yeah

[remote star]

Yoshi collected a fire flower and now will steal shy guy's money!1!1

Yoshi + itens = funny bugs

[still roost]

wait i haven't been keeping up but is that gonna be the replacement of luigi or is that just now mario?

[crimson dome]

Luigi

[remote star]

Luigi

[remote star]

I will try to replicare this sand effect for the special map
https://youtu.be/cigOLW9Mv24?si=tLcOqL_Q2rjOlRXZ

The map will be really customized, it will be called "The paradise" it will have the tileset that is used in the levels, it will also have some cool stuff, but it will have the hardest path animations ever

[trail vapor]

looking nice

[remote star]

Thx!! 🙂

[trail vapor]

what world is that gonna be

[remote star]

Special world

[trail vapor]

oh ok

so you're changing it again?

[remote star]

It will still have the star altar, but for some reasons i changed the map

Blud was really going to write "mape" 💀

[trail vapor]

ok i guess

[remote star]

The star altar will be in the last level aka "the paradise" (yes, the same name of the world)

Guys, special world level 3 could be autumn or punpkim boneyard?

And l4 be autumn?

Also, wich music the map should have?

[remote star]

Choosing by myself it would be pumpkin l3 and autumb l4

[somber siren]

That background was designed by me, where did you get it from?

[crimson dome]

The background was used in AnwarFarrouh's hack apparently

[elder crystal]

lol not a good look to steal from someone you got mad at for stealing

[plush jasper]

@remote star if that was his, you should ask for permission

[plush jasper]

It was stolen by anwar so JPG64 was stealing from him because he was stealing. But since that one was also stolen that makes JPG64 also the one who stole it 🤓

[elder crystal]

yeah that definitely doesn't make it better

[plush jasper]

agree

[remote star]

I asked from him if he allow me to use it on md

[crimson dome]

Hmmm

[remote star]

Now im waiting a answer

[plush jasper]

you should have waited until he answers

[crimson dome]

You could have asked him directly here, lol

[remote star]

Ops 🤓

@somber siren hey, asking here because why not lol, but you care about me using the bg? If you care i can remove it, and if you allow i will give credits ofc

Softlock

(Creepy)

[trail vapor]

weird. what happened

also try to make sure that usually, there are only 1-2 tiles under the flagpole, otherwise it might not show up fully on screen

[remote star]

Its a test level so theres no problem on it

[remote star]

I spin jumped on the flagrante

Flagpole*

Lmfao autocorrector is horrible

[remote star]

True

[remote star]

W1 tower tileset and bg

OH I ALMOST FORGOT

[fickle sphinx]

how many palettes does the tileset use

[remote star]

It will be 2

[fickle sphinx]

oh have you not imported it into the game yet

[remote star]

I will separate the paletes first, and them import it

And probably i will add stuff

[fickle sphinx]

i see

outta curiosity why do the banners look so crusty

the blue ones

[remote star]

On the wii tileset the are like this

[fickle sphinx]

oh weird

[trail vapor]

might be better if you make the background a bit darker so it doesn't get confused with the tileset blocks, tho idk, we need to see how it looks like in-game first

[trail vapor]

this one

[remote star]

The tileset will not going to have green stuff

[somber siren]

Yes I already knew but I just wanted to confirm it XD

[somber siren]

I not only wanted to confirm where I got it from but also feel free to use my content as long as you give me credit

[somber siren]

I already gave you permission to use them

[somber siren]

I already had a short circuit in my brain but I can still use them without problem

[remote star]

UPSIDE DOWN TREEEEEEEE HAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

[remote star]

@wanton swallow have you ever seen upside down textures before?

I love using then bcs i dont need to flip the uv

[wanton swallow]

no

[remote star]

Blender

[hidden widget]

is safe?

[remote star]

Blender is a 3d modeling application

And its safe

If you install it on the oficial website ofc

[wanton swallow]

Wait bro does not know what blender is
💀 😭 🙏

[remote star]

@wanton swallow what song do you think that fits for this scenario?

(You guys can sugest songs too)

[wanton swallow]

Ok give me one second

[remote star]

Sure

[wanton swallow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xObJ_HoAKKc&list=PLY6ZkQEZ_5h_TDFnklEdzbzoEhff8twCb&index=123

@remote star

[remote star]

YOO THATS AWESOME!

[elder crystal]

stop taking things from newer 😭 😭 😭

[wanton swallow]

I see you typing will smith

[remote star]

I love newer 😭

[crimson dome]

Newer Wii ported on the Nintendo DS

• The hack

[remote star]

LMFAOOO

With this worldmap it's now true

[elder crystal]

☹️

[remote star]

At least the game is original

I dont remember any nsmbds mod with a shuriken, boomerang item and a yoshi

[plush jasper]

That's not enough to make a game original

I could take NewerDS and add those things and the mod still wouldn't be original

[brittle rivet]

BRO CRAAZYY

LOOKS AWESOME

[remote star]

I will make my worst nightmare:
Path animations

Fijanjanvjsjfka

[trail vapor]

i thought you said pajamas, so i thought you would make pajamas themed around sakura smb 😭

[remote star]

LMFAOOOOOOOOOO

[trail vapor]

somebody gotta make this a real thing
(at least in photoshop or image editing)

[remote star]

Animations finished, map finished, i will import the music and leak it here as i do with the maps 😉

[trail vapor]

ok

[wanton swallow]

Sak

Ura

[remote star]

Real

[wanton swallow]

👨‍🍳

NSMB2 Import

[crimson dome]

-# Stolen permanently borrowed from Newer DS

[wanton swallow]

.

[plush jasper]

why don't u learn how to properly uv map?

the texture on the ground looks ugly because u didn't put the texture on it properly

[remote star]

I didn't added uv on it yet

And for uv mapping it i will use blender, and i dont know how to uv on blender yet, and i use 2.79

[plush jasper]

u can uv map in maya too

[remote star]

Oh true

🤓

I uv mapped it in maya, exported to blender and generated the obj

NO WAY THE GAME SUPORTED THE MAP IN MAYA

-# no dumbass,the game suportes it before now it dont suport, break logic ew

[wanton swallow]

🔎

[wanton swallow]

black lines everywhere

[remote star]

Thats because of the resoluiton i used in the emulator

It didn't looked well

Anyways, the map is a beta, it will look really skibidi until i finish it tho

Like, i only added the water movement today

Then i will do the trees

And fix the overall

Like i did with other maps

[plush jasper]

try uv map from view if something like that exists in maya

and the scale the map properly so the pixels don't appear big

[remote star]

The pixels will be fixed still

The map is already scaled in uv view

It would look really skibidi toilet if i didn't add it

[wanton swallow]

🗣️ 🚽

[plush jasper]

no it's definitely not uv map from view

it's just normal uv map not properly scaled down etc.

[remote star]

The function name is literally "Scale Uv View"

NO WAY SUV 😱 😱 😱

https://tenor.com/view/cadillac-escalade-suv-car-ride-cadillac-gif-10931632

[plush jasper]

then do it from top view

[remote star]

Sure

[wanton swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/backrooms-dancing-music-entity-entities-gif-25392627

[remote star]

https://youtu.be/mtxYkEaEpzc?si=bBYdXbcdcw1S-uZi

https://youtu.be/JqhddcW2AAw?si=5VW5mxH_bvMfqa7h

Special world (the world that have 6 worlds on it) world 2 and 3 songs:

I need a theme for the autumn world, i didn't wanted to use marple treeway on it

Since its overused

(The special world's world 2 is beach and w3 is pumpkin)

-# (and its not the world themes of the game, the main themes of the game are sakura snow desert and space, the special world is like 6 extra mini worlds)

[trail vapor]

i dont have the greatest wifi rn and so i cant really load the videos

[wanton swallow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_PYJwS3CQ4&list=PLY6ZkQEZ_5h_TDFnklEdzbzoEhff8twCb&index=8

[wanton swallow]

@remote star

[wanton swallow]

👆

[crimson dome]

That's literally a remix of Maple Treeway

[wanton swallow]

I know

[wanton swallow]

And your wrong Newer Wii came out before Newer DS

[crimson dome]

?, I never said otherwise

[remote star]

Beach and boneshit thing that idk how to write are in the game

[trail vapor]

nice

[remote star]

Map showcase
-# and a bit of bad english

"Não- no the tileset is from nsmbhd i think"

[trail vapor]

pretty good! tho mario sometimes is too upwards or feels too far away from the camera in the world map

[remote star]

Yeah lol

It would need the camera to follow mario on w6

But idk how to make it :<

[trail vapor]

also the map feels a bit vast but empty

[remote star]

Yeah true

[trail vapor]

maybe it needs bushes and things like that?

[remote star]

Im afraid of adding stuff and corrupt the vram

[remote star]

Yeah it should work

I mean, i have a lot of doodads stuff i can add

this is more lack of ideas/fear of corrupting the vram

[trail vapor]

maybe its also the lack of paths that give this effect

[remote star]

Yeah this could be cool to add paths

[trail vapor]

maybe make simple things but low-res, like 16x16 and 32x32 stuff

[remote star]

Yeah true

16x16 is ideal

The ship will have a moving animation

Like

Moving a bit up and a bit down

As if its floating

The ship would be a level but i scrapped it since theres no swimming animation

[trail vapor]

oh

[remote star]

Idk how the vram is not overloaded

Thats good at least

I love how the map gives a "night" feeling

[trail vapor]

it adds more to the map, thats nice

maybe add other stuff like bushes and paths or idk

its up to you

[remote star]

Yeah im probably going to add it

[remote star]

Pink Boshi

[bold kestrel]

W

[remote star]

"How much pink you want it to be?"
Yes

[remote star]

Im a bit afraid in choosing the autumn song

I wanted something that is not overused

Like the sm3dw one

[still roost]

This looks more like a red yoshi, but it may be cuz of the lighting

[remote star]

Its the camera lightning, i will put it on my phone later and show here

[still roost]

Ah okey

[remote star]

Idk tho since sometimes i I confuse pink with red and vice versa lol

-# (even funnier is that pink is my favorite color and I still manage to confuse it with red)

[remote star]

I think its pink yeah

[trail vapor]

nice

the egg looks a bit weird. try maybe to make a similar shape as the one you made for the level select screen?

[remote star]

Idk how to make it since its divided in 4 parts

[trail vapor]

oh ok

[remote star]

1.00

[bold kestrel]

wait...

game released???

[remote star]

Nop

I just added this

Since the game dont need really much more stuff beside the levels for be finished

Only like some codes (yoshi boomerang flip block final bowser (i will ask William when i finish all the other levels beside final castle battle) w3 boss) and.... only this

[trail vapor]

what did you change?

[remote star]

Version

Its the version name

I really did a custom title screen without codes lol

[crimson dome]

Let's play fortune tellers, JPG sends a screenshot and we have to guess what he changed

[remote star]

LMFAO

[trail vapor]

the fact that the last line is thicker still triggers me

[remote star]

Trying to finish another level in w3

[remote star]

I think this one is better

[still roost]

Yes

It's perfect

Keep it

[trail vapor]

just remove the background from the cat image and it will be perfect

[bold kestrel]

this hack grew alot

[trail vapor]

interesting

[trail vapor]

yep it did

[remote star]

True

[trail vapor]

im still bugged by the fact that the pink on the lower screen is different

[remote star]

I hate this color compression of nsmbe

I could try using the nitro paint for this idk

[trail vapor]

oh its nsmbe :/

[crimson dome]

What are you trying to change?

[trail vapor]

always the nsmbe color compression, we all hate you nsmbe color compression

[remote star]

Look at the color on the bottom thing

[fickle sphinx]

you could prolly manually tweak the colour to match the top one

[crimson dome]

If you wanna get around the NSMBe's color compression you could always try out this method I described here #nsmb-chat message

Create a custom NSBTX and reduce it's color count to 16, 256 or whatever color limit you're trying to approach

[trail vapor]

i think its an enpg

so a manual color change is probably better

[remote star]

Im thinking of making a pink gradient

And make the bottom black

[trail vapor]

oh ok

[remote star]

I read this name as "gap of crap" twice 😭

[sweet owl]

Are you going to make a nsmbwii spike model?

[remote star]

Probably

[sweet owl]

Because if you need I can write a world based remodel for spikes

[remote star]

Yo that would be good

[remote star]

I was seeing this, if this where a real place with a black hole in the sky, its already big from the giant planet horizon, imagine the size of it?

It would be like massively giant

[trail vapor]

yea

[remote star]

Maybe even bigger than 4 solar systems

[trail vapor]

but also quality compression 😵‍💫

[remote star]

Thats the image 😭

[trail vapor]

probably not that much, thats not the feeling i get

[remote star]

I mean, for the Planet not get destroyed by it, it need to be really far away from the hole

(Not the case of blackhole valley tho)

[trail vapor]

it feels more like a huge mario galaxy black hole but really huge

but huge for a mario galaxy black hole, not an actual irl black hole

[remote star]

The Black hole valley is a asteroid belt arround a planet that is really close to the blackhole, even thought on the map we dont see said Planet, in the levels we see it

[remote star]

Gotcha

[crimson dome]

Bro, use NitroPaint for the BG please, I can't stand that compression

[trail vapor]

i think the texture is already like that by default, without even any importing

[crimson dome]

Ah

[remote star]

Now i fixed the bg

[remote star]

Now, how i do it

[trail vapor]

why do you have both volcanoes and the black hole on a single layer

[remote star]

They are in diferent layers

[trail vapor]

no i mean bg layer

[remote star]

Oh

Its the bottom (small) volcanoes

[trail vapor]

foreground bg (top) and background bg (bottom)

[crimson dome]

See this #nsmb-chat message

The only downside is that you'll have to import your background via ROM File Browser, but it's not that bad I guess

[remote star]

Nah i do this for most of the graphics

[fickle sphinx]

does the black hole appear multiple times due to bg looping

[remote star]

Unfortunately yes

[trail vapor]

i think it might be better if the bg had only the black hole and the asteroids, then you could loop it. then change the level scrolling values so the bottom bg scrolls extremely slowly

[remote star]

237
416
574

[trail vapor]

first bit of the suggestion being to avoid quality loss

[remote star]

It didn't worked ztardust 😡

The nsc didn't worked

😡😡😡

[crimson dome]

Could always replace the Peach Castle BG, so sad that it has the flag animations

[crimson dome]

Chill down please

[remote star]

Its a joke

[trail vapor]

seems like a bad idea

[crimson dome]

For some reason it doesn't always work, it happened to me twice

See this #nsmb-chat message

[sweet owl]

On the side note

I think figured out oam so I’m going to try and make an animated tiles /backgrounds code hack

[crimson dome]

That would be really great

-# As long as it's not so difficult, lmao

[trail vapor]

oh nice!!

[remote star]

YOOOOO FINALLY!!!!

Nsmbds needs animated bgs lol

[crimson dome]

It already has animated BG's, the only thing it needs is to make it so it doesn't use the same palettes than the tilesets

[remote star]

The bg is blank 😭

[crimson dome]

As I said, I have no idea why it happens, it happened to me twice

Seems like you'll have to tile the background manually

[remote star]

FUCK

[fickle sphinx]

outta curiosity what happens if you run the change palette thing over it a couple times

[remote star]

Wdym

[fickle sphinx]

the tool with the colour wheel icon

what happens when you use it on the nsc

[remote star]

Ohhh

Solved

Thanks a lot DM

🙂

[fickle sphinx]

wait did you manually retile 2 backgrounds

[remote star]

In game the colors looks weird

[fickle sphinx]

does the bg look normal in nsmbes background previewer thing

[remote star]

Yeah

[fickle sphinx]

weird

outta curiosity does anything change when you use a different bg slot

[remote star]

Nop

[fickle sphinx]

actually what do the palettes for the bg look like

[remote star]

Looks totally diferent from those colors

But in the bg proprieties the id is the same as the pallete

[fickle sphinx]

do you think you could check the palette file itself

[remote star]

I did

I lz compressed it to see if it works

Yes

Now i will never do more bgs by nsmbe

NEVER

AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA NEVEEEEEERRRRR

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH fucking explodes

[fickle sphinx]

oh so did you just have to lz compress the palette and its working now

[remote star]

Jokes aside, it looks really good

[remote star]

Yeah

[fickle sphinx]

nice

[remote star]

Thats how newer ds did the bgs i think

[fickle sphinx]

i dont think nitropaint was around when newer ds was being developed

[remote star]

Oh gotcha

[crimson dome]

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that you have to compress the palette again after importing the new one, since for some it descompresses for some reason

[remote star]

Ztardust and DM thanks a lot for helping me man, the bgs are awesome lol 🙂

[crimson dome]

No, lol, I'm not that masochistic XD

[remote star]

YO NOW I CAN 3D MODEL MY BGS AND RENDER IT!!!

[remote star]

Lol

[fickle sphinx]

i mean didnt you like draw in tiles into the jyotyu tileset manually

[crimson dome]

Don't expect it to always work, sometimes backgrounds can have so much tiles that NitroPaint can't handle them, like this one here #1193719548009009192 message

[crimson dome]

Yep, basically everything in my jyotyu (except for the question blocks and bricks) are manually drawn

[fickle sphinx]

sounds masochistic

[crimson dome]

At least is less masochistic than manually tiling a background

[remote star]

Gotcha

My bgs are always cut in middle and them i copy everything again

[remote star]

Flip block

[misty geyser]

Amazing.

[crimson dome]

How do you plan on getting it working in game?

[remote star]

It will be a "lite" version

Of the smw one

It will not break

It will not spawn items

It will only spin (when hit, ofc)

It will

[crimson dome]

Yeah, but what block will you replace?

Or will you use a code hack for that?

[remote star]

I asked a illy for make a code for it

[crimson dome]

Gotcha

[remote star]

More flipping

[remote star]

This mod will have the first flip block and sakura theme on ds i think

Newer would have the flip block first i think

But it got scrapped

[trail vapor]

i like the sprite!!

[remote star]

Thx! 🙂

[trail vapor]

yw

[remote star]

I used my old goofy jyotyu animations for make this lol

And them i modeled the image for be like this (a cool option for ibis paint lol)

[trail vapor]

thats cool!

[remote star]

This is how it will spin

[trail vapor]

feels a bit janky but it works

(probably feeling like that because its a single tile in a gif tho)

[sweet owl]

I couldnt firure out how to code them btw

[remote star]

Gotcha, but thx anyways 😉

Oh, btw those rock structures are good? (Yall can give ur opinions too)
-# (i will sent the the screenshot in another post, im dying in the level a lot 🤓)

[trail vapor]

opiniões?

and what rock structures?

[remote star]

That was the autocorrector

[trail vapor]

idk if they fit the inside of a factory

[remote star]

I mean, its in space

And the factory is meant to be "destroied" by meteours

[trail vapor]

still in a factory ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[remote star]

But i was thinking of changing it

To some metal broken bars

[crimson dome]

I don't think they really fit in the factory aestethics, and I don't really like at all how some of parts look (no offense, lol)

[remote star]

Yeah thats what i was thinking lol

[trail vapor]

oh ok

we'll probably then i guess, tho it doesn't make too much sense that they could install huge metallic walls with no holes at all, yet they still have meteor debris

[remote star]

Yeah i can change the bg to give this aspect

With some broken parts

[remote star]

Dw, This level is kind poopy lol

The level desing is not good

[trail vapor]

it's probably better if you replace them by some pipes for the factory

[remote star]

Oh true

And the wobble rocks could be some iron platforms?

[trail vapor]

i guess

if thats the only level you plan to use them in at least

tho something metallic could fit in the whole world 5 theme

[remote star]

Yeah true

Bro is so heavy 😭

This bg dont convince me at all idk why

Im going to play b3313 and hope i dont have any nightmare 😭

[trail vapor]

the bg is a bit weird. i'd suggest making something like the tower bg ripped from nsmbwii, but with those metallic tiles, and not too dark. and maybe a bit green

talking about the bottom bg

the top bg is alright i think

[remote star]

Yeah maybe i could do it

[trail vapor]

i'd suggest that the bg is either dark gray or dark green, or something in-between. and not too dark i think

[trail vapor]

hope very strongly then

[remote star]

I GOT JUMPSCARED 😭

I dont want to play it anymore

[trail vapor]

what version

where

[remote star]

1.0.2

Castle depths

(It was not a jumpscared, it was just a mr. I behind a door)

[trail vapor]

oh ok

[trail vapor]

???

[crimson dome]

Huh? Lmao

[sweet owl]

Heh

I didn’t pin anything

I wasn’t even in my phone the , I’m at work unless it happen in my pocket or smth

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oh okay

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Thx to Kourtiss for the Classic mario 🙂

(I modified the texture a bit tho, for making it sligthly diferent and modern)

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New world icons totally not copying newer

[brittle rivet]

Newer copied them from NSMB2

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Yeah

How it looks in game
-# perfect transition By Drastic Savestate 😉

Good resolution image

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a bit hard to see the world numbers imo

[brittle rivet]

Looks cool but who ate World 4?

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cool!! tho i feel like there should be some level behind or something

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I mean, the whole level will be in B/W inspired by Castle Bleck, so theres nothing so much to show

Besides a giant blackhole in the bg

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ok

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The tileset is already something that i think is easy to know how it will be

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interesting

but then who stole everything? Bowser?

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Yeah

Bowser is the villain of the whole mod

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would be nice if it was some possessed bowser or something, or at least bowser having some special evil force that goes out of his control (here the evil star we see could work)

[remote star]

Yeah that would be cool

Since the Dark Star is the Peace Star without the Star fragments (smaller stars) since the Star fragments cease the real power if the Dark Star

(The same star in the level intro)

Also if you see bowser jr is totally diferent in colors

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you mean "of the Dark Star"?

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yea

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Yeah

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ok

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Also if you see the star have a pink aura thing

Its the real power of it outside the star

(That happens when you separate the star fragments from the stars)

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oh okay

[bold kestrel]

hi guys

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hi

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In the plot, bowser would use it to destroy the whole world (as i said before) and mario need to put it in the star altar (that would he in the erased dimention, but now is in the "The paradise" island, that is a island in a paralel reality)

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Heya

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Bowser jr and Bowser would have a diferent color, sine they are using the dark star

And the game is a indirect sequel to nsmbds

By indirect i mean it happened a lot of time after nsmbds, but before nsmbw, newer wii, newer ds, nsmb2, nsmbu and wonder

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oh ok

better plot than those games tho