I assume KSC is protected at least as much than CSG yeah
#Ariane 5 ECA | The Last Dance
bronze shadow
real vault
Titan Opération is just so fucking based
compact dagger
SECO
zinc verge
They should have shut it down
ah yes so we would have had like no global lift capability in the late 80s
weary nebula
SECO
compact dagger
TECO actually
zinc verge
well not quite none but you get the point
calm ice
wanton sail
Bye HM7 
bronze shadow
Last HM-7B 🫡
real vault
It’s so Joever
uneven arch
Arca > Arianespace
zinc verge
anyway, good launch, now for me to return to ignoring Arianespace as normal 
zinc verge
Arca > Arianespace
80s of ISP disagrees
uneven arch
Arianespace uses child labour
drowsy plank
Bye HM7 <:Ariane_care:922753730485567509>
after over 4 decades of service
compact dagger
https://twitter.com/galopujacy_jez/status/1676714631291609090?s=20
I made that edit
drowsy plank
over 200
wanton sail
how many hm-7 have launched
I count 227
pale bay
Rip Ariane 5
weary nebula
I count 227
did it start on ariane 4
bronze shadow
did it start on ariane 4
Ariane 1
wanton sail
HM7B debuted on the 1st Ariane 3 (which flew before Ariane 2) in August 1984
calm ice
I made that edit <:kekw:753037648293265520>
lmao
bronze shadow
HM7**B** debuted on the 1st Ariane 3 (which flew before Ariane 2) in August 1984
Technically speaking the current version should be called HM-7C tho
weary nebula
Seperation of first sat
noble sand
I made a meme out of it
weary nebula
oh like the stuffed cat
noble sand
That’s meant to say country not company 😂
compact dagger
lmao
and someone reverted my edit but I've put it back again since the launch ended
weary nebula
my english dad who knows nothing ab rocketry knew ab ariane 5
bronze shadow
and someone reverted my edit but I've put it back again since the launch ended
Well, mission isn't finished
weary nebula
bec is european
uneven arch
Final satellite sep, fuck you and rest in piss Ariane 5
weary nebula
does the stage use hydrazine for rcs
orchid fulcrum
why do people hate or dislike ariane 5
bronze shadow
why do people hate or dislike ariane 5
Trolls or morons, or both
Launch is officially a success
uneven arch
Trolls or morons, or both
Read eric berger article
zinc verge
Read eric berger article
we do not care
hardy steppe
The final launch has fianally been completed
calm ice
why do people hate or dislike ariane 5
I think most people just see it as outdated
and ariane 6 isnt must better
much*
bronze shadow
Heinrich Hertz AOS
pine horizon
I made a meme out of it
launch the flagship mission for free*
drowsy plank
I think most people just see it as outdated
it was designed in the 90s so a lot has changed since then
why can't people realise that
wanton sail
🫡
pine horizon
will A6 have onboards
hardy steppe
why can't people realise that
They either do and take the piss for fun or they're morons
pine horizon
Heinrich Hertz AOS
speedy
cedar summit
And there we have it. The end of an era for Europe
pine horizon
what is heinrich hertz
hardy steppe
There's an app for that
bronze shadow
what is heinrich hertz
German military com sat
uneven arch
🫡<:Ariane_Care:1102807097810354176>
FUCK YEAHHH
uneven arch
the success of arianespace's pocket
calm ice
it was designed in the 90s so a lot has changed since then
just because its new doesn't make it not outdated
the A340-600 first flew in 2001
it was already outdated
pine horizon
the success of arianespace's pocket
why are you an asshole
bronze shadow
and it wasn’t a classified mission
It's just com sats
uneven arch
why are you an asshole
Read eric berger's articles about Arianespace, I am sorry that I do not like a rocket btw
bronze shadow
why are you an asshole
Have been like that since they joined
hardy steppe
Have been like that since they joined
They've been like that for a while from the looks of it though
zinc verge
Read eric berger's articles about Arianespace, I am sorry that I do not like a r...
noone cares that you dont like a rocket
compact dagger
Does anyone know what will happen to ELA-3 know that Ariane Cinco is gone?
zinc verge
its the trolling that gets annoying lol
bronze shadow
They've been like that for a while from the looks of it though
That's what I said
hardy steppe
oh well. Eepy brain
uneven arch
Does anyone know what will happen to ELA-3 know that Ariane Cinco is gone?
They will rent it to spacex
For Falcon XX
zinc verge
SuperFalcon with 33 Merlin-1Fs on stage 1
hardy steppe
So is orbital insertion done?
zinc verge
yes both payloads deployed
hardy steppe
Swag
compact dagger
They will rent it to spacex
Maybe Miura Cinco can despegar from there
pine horizon
It's just com sats
but for the military
worthy wharf
H2 AOS
pine horizon
Read eric berger's articles about Arianespace, I am sorry that I do not like a r...
pick and choose the time, if you want to be annoying do it in #générał-space at a time that isn’t the final flight <3
bronze shadow
Syracuse IVB AOS
pine horizon
SuperFalcon with 33 Merlin-1Fs on stage 1
this is true
worthy wharf
You're late <:stare:948044683907592202>
hardy steppe
Read eric berger's articles about Arianespace, I am sorry that I do not like a r...
Berger is a meme journalist lmao
Some of what he says is correct but he's about as reliable as a slightly weighted set of dice
bronze shadow
100% successful mission 🫡
pine horizon
Some of what he says is correct but he's about as reliable as a slightly weighte...
berger’s factual reporting often is accurate but his analysis and takes are often what sucks
uneven arch
100% successful mission 🫡
sad that ariane 5 didn't get a shitty ending
pine horizon
!warn @uneven arch being an ass unnecessarily
dreamy ledgeBOT
cynbloxy has been warned
compact dagger
Because I set the Wikipedia as inactive
modest ridge
hardy steppe
worthy wharf
bronze shadow
brazen siren
So true
orchid fulcrum
this is the first of the legendary rockets to retire in the near future
delta and atlas upcoming plus proton
eager forum
when is proton
orchid fulcrum
2 more left according to app
one in December and one in January next year
oh and Antares
hardy steppe
Beta-Castor is an Antares in the same sense that Delta IV is a Delta
In that it isn't
eager forum
yes
orchid fulcrum
atlas will hit the hardest when that retires, Delta IV heavy will also
hardy steppe
It still fucks me up that Taurus is just a Pegasus on top of a Castor
That's so terrible I hate it
hardy steppe
You know everyone always makes best rockets lists but nobody ever makes worst rockets lists
weary nebula
And atlas v is a atlas lol
orchid fulcrum
You know everyone always makes best rockets lists but nobody ever makes worst ro...
- Thor able
- Thor able
- Thor able
- Thor able
- ecorocket
hardy steppe
It has to be a rocket that's flown so no Ecorocket
orchid fulcrum
then number 5 can be booster-less Soyuz
hardy steppe
Same rule I had for the best rockets list: has to have attempted an orbital launch.
compact dagger
I actually like the taurus
glacial crystal
Thor able was great
hardy steppe
I mean I do too but I like it in the same sense that I want to care for a disabled puppy that went blind
weary nebula
Same rule I had for the best rockets list: has to have attempted an orbital laun...
Aris 1-x
Conestoga
Soyuz 2.1v
hardy steppe
It's so helpless it triggers my caring instinct
orchid fulcrum
unpopular opinion but I think that the Delta III looked dope
hardy steppe
I mean that's valid but it still sucked ass
orchid fulcrum
there's something about upper stages being wider than first stages that make rockets look cool
hardy steppe
Also surprised nobody has brought up NOTS-EV-1
orchid fulcrum
probably is terrible but I can't remember what it looks like
compact dagger
I see the Delta 3 every week when past the freeway
hardy steppe
probably is terrible but I can't remember what it looks like
It was a literal entirely unguided rocket that was launched from the bottom of a fighter jet which attempted to manually aim it onto an orbital trajectory by turning the jet and eyeballing it
orchid fulcrum
atlas 666 when
6 RL10s
eager forum
maybe
hardy steppe
The NOTS-EV-1 Pilot, better known as NOTSNIK (pronounced notsnik a play on "sputnik") was an expendable launch system and anti-satellite weapon developed by the United States Navy's United States Naval Ordnance Test Station (NOTS).[2] NOTSNIK began as an in-house project using available NOTS funds. The Advanced Research Projects Agency later supplied some funds for the program.[3] The program involved creating transistorized sensors to detect nuclear explosions from the Operation Argus tests. Ten were launched during July and August 1958, all of which failed. It was the first air-launched rocket to be used for an orbital launch attempt; however, none was recorded as having reached orbit. Following the third orbital launch attempt a NOTS engineer at the tracking station in Christchurch, New Zealand reported receiving a weak signal from the spacecraft;[4] This was never confirmed,[5] and the launches were not catalogued as having reached orbit.[6] The Pilot rocket was part of Project Pilot.[7]
wanton sail
when is proton
Actually it's not clear, IIRC the Russians say there are up to 10 Protons left (+) (the last 2 of which are built this year), but only like 2-3 payloads have been assigned
(+) 12 after Angosat-2 launch last October https://tass.ru/kosmos/16038235
Remaining launches:
Atlas V - 19 (will only support Starliner & Amazon's Kuiper after this year or very early next, but will still have several years of life left if only for Starliner)
Delta IV - 1 (Feb. 2024)
Antares w/ Russian engines - 1 (Aug. 2023)
Proton - <= 10 (unclear)
H-IIA - 4 (late 2024 - early 2025)
The only really legacy SLV families left with significant linkage to the past will be Soyuz and the older Chinese Long Marches (2/3/4) - we will probably see them flying well into the 2030s
Though some other launchers have surprisingly longetivity, such as India's PSLV which actually will celebrate its 30th anniversary this year! (people probably don't realize that because it only flew 7 times in its first 10 years, and only 17 times 1993 - 2010, 40 times afterward)
spare pike
what about SLS which uses 50 year old engines
wanton sail
what about SLS which uses 50 year old engines
Well that's true lmao
pine horizon
Beta-Castor is an Antares in the same sense that Delta IV is a Delta
same S2 different S1
pine horizon
It still fucks me up that Taurus is just a Pegasus on top of a Castor
lmfaooooo
pine horizon
It has to be a rocket that's flown so no Ecorocket
ecorocket has flown
hardy steppe
same S2 different S1
In that case Delta III is the same rocket as Delta IV
spare pike
I like OTRAG
hardy steppe
OTRAG funny
pine horizon
In that case Delta III is the same rocket as Delta IV
it’s same family
i was agreeing with you tho 😭😭
hardy steppe
Fair
hardy steppe
ecorocket has flown
It hasn't flown an orbital mission
pine horizon
It hasn't flown an orbital mission
anything is orbital with enough hopes and dreams
hardy steppe
Bruh
pine horizon
(/s)
didn’t they technically deploy an orbital thingy but the Romanian navy was like lol no?
hardy steppe
didn’t they technically deploy an orbital thingy but the Romanian navy was like ...
That's still not a launch
pine horizon
yeah i know
rich coyote
but 330 is mid
LISTEN HERE YOU LITTLE SHIT
rich coyote
2 more left according to app
There's more than that I think
Probably closer to a dozen if memory serves but amaury or rykllan could probably correct
rich coyote
Beta-Castor is an Antares in the same sense that Delta IV is a Delta
Eh the way I look at it Antares has always been the rocket of Theseus, so it's kinda disqualified from that line of thinking
eager forum
LISTEN HERE YOU LITTLE SHIT
“I’m not racist but”
rich coyote
You know everyone always makes best rockets lists but nobody ever makes worst ro...
NOTS-EV-1
Vanguard
Anything with Able
Shuttle
Rocket 3.3
hardy steppe
Miranda when she finds out that the Space Shuttle wasn't fuelled by the blood of human babies and the flesh of endangered seals
zinc verge
NOTS-EV-1
Vanguard
Anything with Able
Shuttle
Rocket 3.3
Thor able is actually cool though : (
also at what point is delta not just a bigger able
(unless the worst rockets extends to delta : ( )
rich coyote
Miranda when she finds out that the Space Shuttle wasn't fuelled by the blood of...
surely as someone who is into alt space history you can see how shuttle limited our horizons for half a century and still going...
zinc verge
1. Thor able
2. Thor able
3. Thor able
4. Thor able
5. ecorocket
y the hate for thor able : ((((((
I can see Atlas-Able because, well, lol
but thor able actually worked and evolved into delta
sonic prairie
surely as someone who is into alt space history you can see how shuttle limited ...
shhhhhhh
leave muh precious fleet of spaceplanes alone 😠
zinc verge
You know everyone always makes best rockets lists but nobody ever makes worst ro...
Atlas Able
Vanguard
Ares 1 (didnt make an orbital ettempt but idc its going on the list)
Vega-C (stop failing and ill take it off the list)
hardy steppe
surely as someone who is into alt space history you can see how shuttle limited ...
I can, and I can also see that any other system designed or continued under the financial circumstances of the 1970s was going to be the same way. The money to make a better Shuttle did not exist and sticking with the Saturn V in the form we know it would have been financially unsustainable due to the simple fact that it was not designed for continuous long-term production and our view of its missed opportunities is blinded by the fact that its discontinuation happened to perfectly align with the massive cuts in NASA funding that resulted in the Shuttle being the way that it was.
The Shuttle was a deeply flawed system which objectively got nowhere near what it was supposed to be and became a financial tar baby that took the lives of two crews due to safety negligence. Yet you fail to see the wider picture: you just can't go from 2% of national GDP to 0.5% in three years and continue along the same path, it's not possible.
The Shuttle didn't hamper space exploration because its specific concept ate children and tripped old ladies, it failed because America's government and public turned away from space exploration at the moment they did and left NASA to die. The Shuttle didn't cause the lull, it was merely its visual representation. Congress and the American people caused the lull.
zinc verge
Atlas Able
Vanguard
Ares 1 (didnt make an orbital ettempt but idc its going on t...
also need to add Thor Burner to that
pine horizon
LISTEN HERE YOU LITTLE SHIT
cackling
hardy steppe
I can, and I can also see that any other system designed or continued under the ...
@rich coyote you made me write an essay c'mon man you can't just dip out like that
heady hare
pale bay
what other rockets will have its last flight soon other than delta, Antares and Atlas
pine horizon
what other rockets will have its last flight soon other than delta, Antares and ...
atlas actually has abt 7 years left
weary nebula
what other rockets will have its last flight soon other than delta, Antares and ...
H2-A
weary nebula
what other rockets will have its last flight soon other than delta, Antares and ...
Proton
weary nebula
what other rockets will have its last flight soon other than delta, Antares and ...
Delta
pine horizon
Ain’t no way the Japanese are axing h2
H-3 is supposed to replace it iirc
pine horizon
Ain’t no way the Japanese are axing h2
there’s four more in the app
hopefully H-3 doesnt give them an Ariane-adjacent issue
weary nebula
hopefully H-3 doesnt give them an Ariane-adjacent issue
It’s supposed to fly this year
weary nebula
what other rockets will have its last flight soon other than delta, Antares and ...
Pegasus lol
pine horizon
It’s supposed to fly this year
yeah but it also previously anomalied
hope it’s good to go now tho
learned the Cluster way to just launch something low worth on first flight
weary nebula
hope it’s good to go now tho
Next launch is no payload
pine horizon
checks out
short plume
https://twitter.com/galopujacy_jez/status/1676718463555973122
https://twitter.com/galopujacy_jez/status/1676720243945750530
pine horizon
i love wikipedia
compact dagger
I was making those edits
I made the first and final "was" edit
You see were it says "mobile edit android" that's me
calm ice
Doing God's work
sonic prairie
I can, and I can also see that any other system designed or continued under the ...
I legitimately couldn't have expressed this in a better way, this is beautiful
bronze shadow
bronze shadow
sonic prairie
orchid fulcrum
stray bobcat
anyone here got a timelapse of the rollout for this launch?
bronze shadow
bronze shadow
uneven arch
hardy steppe
Thanks
hardy steppe
Yup
real vault
oh