#NG-18 Launch
red ibex
red ibex
https://youtu.be/D3d26sYjj9o
soft frigate
paper mulch
the chilling bird 
ripe island
Wtf the mighty stick is launching
smoky rune
2nd last Antares
soft frigate
2nd last Antares
Yuzhmash built ones, yeah
smoky rune
Firefly will be very different rockets
soft frigate
Firefly will be very different rockets
Opposite of DII -> DIII
misty surge
Wtf antare
nova geyser
was unaware of this post
crisp gyro
Well now you are
nova geyser
yes i am
coarse gate
200 series, yes
1 more after this one
soft frigate
1 more after this one
Wouldn't be so sure
coarse gate
Wouldn't be so sure
why?
soft frigate
why?
Haven't I been through this
No support from Yuzhmash or Energomash and Northrop is clueless on their own
coarse gate
then why is this launch proceeding and that one won't?
soft frigate
It was further along
coarse gate
two missions being at different phases preparing for flight doesn't mean Northrop knows that they're doing for the first and not the second
any technical challenge that comes up during the launch campaign for this flight (and every previous flight) better prepares them for the following flight
if you think NG-19 won't fly then why is it listed on the NASA ISS manifest?
soft frigate
if you think NG-19 won't fly then why is it listed on the NASA ISS manifest?
Because I think they will inevitably face a problem which will result in delays and eventual cancellation, keep up
coarse gate
like what?
soft frigate
Don't know. Don't care. Fuck off.
smoky rune
Because I think they will inevitably face a problem which will result in delays ...
they could run into some breaking issue that would lead to a delay or cancellation
but that is far from certain
they're very much still trying to go through with it
and they've certainly build up some knowledge about how to solve certain issues
nova geyser
o7
nova geyser
is the RD-190 or 191 ,whatever the engine on the first stage is, used on anything?
soft frigate
is the RD-190 or 191 ,whatever the engine on the first stage is, used on anythin...
RD-181, no, not on anything else
Iirc Orbital actually wanted to use one RD-180 instead of two RD-181's, but ULA has an exclusivity deal of some sort with NPO Energomash
soft frigate
definitely top 5
Easily #2 in sound
nova geyser
number 3 for me
paper mulch
number 3 for me
this msg reminds me of SLS Engine #3 
nova geyser
well in terms of honk then yes easily 2nd best
beats the raptor honk but loses to reaver honk
soft frigate
My favorite engines (very very loose order, and I'm only including ones which have been built/fired)
Reaver 1 (yes, I'm biased. Deal with it)
J-2S
Raptor
F-1
RD-180
LR-87
Vinci
soft frigate
beats the raptor honk but loses to reaver honk
Indeed
Honk ranking:
Reaver
RD-180
Raptor 2
LR-87
nova geyser
My favorite engines (very very loose order, and I'm only including ones which ha...
my fav:
- RS-25
- RL10
- RD-180
- Raptor
- RD-170
nova geyser
nova geyser
so is MLV not Beta-Castor?
ripe island
Long
soft frigate
so is MLV not Beta-Castor?
No, MLV is the new name for Beta, it's Firefly's own vehicle
soft frigate
Antares 330 aka Beta-Castor is a shortened MLV first stage with the S2 of the existing Antares slapped on top
nova geyser
got it, ty
soft frigate
Antares 330 / MLV details
nova geyser
video doesnt want to work
soft frigate
- Planning at least 3 Antares 330 / Beta-Castor launches starting in late 2024
- Antares 330 is slightly taller but will still fit within existing infrastructure (T/E, HIF) with minimal modification
- MLV is indeed a temporary name, they have an internal naming contest ongoing. First launch planned in late 2025.
- After MLV comes online Cygnus flights will switch over to it and Antares 330 will be retired - it's only a temporary solution to get Cygnus flying again from Wallops while Firefly completes MLV development
nova geyser
ah great
fog concern
not a problem for launch but still
yet another cool launch may be occluded by stoopid fog
paper mulch
it's uncanny how foggy it is it will be
soft frigate
it's uncanny how foggy ~~it is~~ it will be
Vandyfog travelled down to Florida to obscure AFSPC-44, now it's travelling north to obscure CRS Orb-18
()
paper mulch
Vandyfog travelled down to Florida to obscure AFSPC-44, now it's travelling nort...
it's pretty foggy over Joint Long Range Proving Ground nowadays
()
crisp mountain
Didn't know why I joined sooner
I'm going to be able to see this launch from my back deck!
soft frigate
I'm going to be able to see this launch from my back deck!
Damn, how close are you?
Immensely jealous...
Was supposed to be driving there right now
crisp mountain
Like 3 hours away?
I'm 15 mins from where they make them
The US facility not the Italian one
paper mulch
The US facility not the Italian one
Fun fact: I'm closer to Yuzhmash production facility rather than to Wallops
Sadge fact: can't visit Yuzhmash 
soft frigate
The US facility not the Italian one
... Italian?
crisp mountain
... Italian?
The service module is made in the US while the pressurized segment is made in Italy
soft frigate
The service module is made in the US while the pressurized segment is made in It...
Ahhh, that's Cygnus, not Antares itself
crisp mountain
Yea Cygnus
ripe island
Cygnus good
crisp mountain
Cygnus very good
soft frigate
Sadge fact: can't visit Yuzhmash <:Sadge:926991605469167668>
Unfortunately there isn't much to visit anymore
paper mulch
nova geyser
oh
paper mulch
Castor-XL reentry bingo 
https://twitter.com/planet4589/status/1589126029813194755
Twitter
misty surge
fire alarm in mission control
Lolwut
misty surge
Wonder if it's false or not
crisp mountain
Well time to go back to sleep 
broken ledge
lmao
crisp mountain
Still excited
broken ledge
Wonder if it's false or not
Seems yes
crisp mountain
Virginia launch best launch 
crisp mountain
Mission control burned down no more Cygnus
I'm close enough where I could go check if the building is on fire but I'm too tired sleepy for that
misty surge
Wow damn
crisp mountain
nova geyser
it's just before 11 in the morning over here
misty surge
Hold on guys I have the perfect meme for this occasion
ripe island
Waiting
paper mulch
same here
soft frigate
Hold on guys I have the perfect meme for this occasion
true crag
ca anyone confirm or deny that the Antares launch was scrubbed by someone burning their toast?
cedar stone
someone is not getting paid this month 🥴
nova geyser
ca anyone confirm or deny that the Antares launch was scrubbed by someone burnin...
neither confirmed nor denied
soft frigate
CRS SpX-7 wants to have a word with Mx. "But what about CRS Orb-3"
unborn rock
CRS SpX-7 wants to have a word with Mx. "But what about CRS Orb-3"
spacex fans trying to explain how spacex has never failed, and when they did, they didn't:
I found that gif and had to use it
soft frigate
spacex fans trying to explain how spacex has never failed, and when they did, th...
Utter abject failures: F1 F1-3, CRS SpX-7, AMOS-6, Mk1, SN1, SN3, SN4, SN9, B4's entire existence, B7's transfer tube crunch, spinprime anomaly
Other than that they've done pretty good tbh
tidal ledge
Utter abject failures: F1 F1-3, CRS SpX-7, AMOS-6, Mk1, SN1, SN3, SN4, SN9, B4's...
SN11
sour zinc
SN11 never happened
soft frigate
SN11
SN11 is iffy in my book since they pretty much knew it was going to RUD
Can't really be a failure if it's the expected outcome
I.e. how we don't consider SN8 a failure
nova geyser
how would they know it was gonna rud?
coarse gate
Can't really be a failure if it's the expected outcome
SpaceX fan trying to explain how that a failure SpaceX had doesn't count as a failure
true crag
https://gfycat.com/distantspitefuliberianemeraldlizard
It keeps getting worse
crisp mountain
Both Falcon 9/Dragon and Antares/Cygnus have had major failures and in each case one picked up the slack when the other couldn't
Having two suppliers has proved to be objectively good
Not to mention Cygnus has capabilities that Dragon doesn't and vice versa
ripe island
ONE HOUR UNTIL THE MIGHTY STICK DOES THE
crisp gyro
18 minutes
sour zinc
It's almost the same thing
broken ledge
LOL boat in range again
https://twitter.com/nextlaunch/status/1589562138355535873?s=46&t=O3Z06PP5YHpgdjQShbA6CA
sour zinc
LMAO WHAT
sour zinc
Boat had an engine failure and it's drifting into the danger area
It's a fucking joke
smoky rune
This Antares launch is such a meme
crisp gyro
Go for launch
ripe island
NUKE DA BOAT
broken ledge
Boat had an engine failure and it's drifting into the danger area
That boat is actually one of the range (USCG?)’s own support ships 
Anyway range is GREEN
misty surge
Romket
crisp mountain
AAA IT'S CLOUDY
misty surge
Is launch happening today
crisp mountain
There hasn't been a night launch from Whallops in a few years so I don't actually remember where exactly to look off my deck
4 min
misty surge
Where stream
crisp mountain
misty surge
Ooga
My phone just randomly played the face slap gif for some reason
This
a
LAUNCH
scenic pumice
ROCKET
crisp mountain
CANT GET A PIC CAUSE ITS TOO DARK BUT I CAN SEE IT
misty surge
So cool
spark pike
Did thing do the good
crisp mountain
It could barley see it though the clouds and the trees
misty surge
Did thing do the good
So far yes
The first stage did the good now it's stage 2's turn
Why the fuck is it pointing retrograde
Nvm it rotated again
crisp mountain
I CAN SEE OT JELLYFISHING DHDHSBZBE
misty surge
I haven't watched a Cygnus launch in so long
spark pike
Why the fuck is it pointing retrograde
Srb stage moment
crisp mountain
Damn that's a bright plume
misty surge
Wonder if we'll get good launch photos
crisp mountain
I can't with my shitty phone cam
misty surge
I can't with my shitty phone cam
I mean in general
misty surge
Xoxo bestie tysm
broken ledge
My heart skipped a beat here
https://twitter.com/cosmic_penguin/status/1589568771911745536?s=46&t=O3Z06PP5YHpgdjQShbA6CA
crisp mountain
oh damn I didn't even notice that
misty surge
My heart skipped a beat here
https://twitter.com/cosmic_penguin/status/15895687...
Yeah I noticed that too it's just an srb moment
It looks like the rcs turned it that way before the burn
crisp mountain
It did get into nominal orbit so are we sure it isn't just an error in the graphics?
crisp gyro
The telemetry also indicated retrograde burn so I'm not sure it was an error in graphics
The graphics also moved to prograde smoothly rather than jerking it to that side which likely indicates smooth data and therefore the actual telemetry that was coming down from the vehicle
crisp mountain
Ah okay
I assume the castor srb has enough margin to make sure it gets into orbit even if something goes wrong like that
Guess we'll find out soon
Anyways back to sleepie 
crisp gyro
I think that was not wrong but rather what it had calculated it needed to get into the correct orbit
The orbital parameters are basically within 5km of the target parameters
broken ledge
Twitter
scenic pumice
which stream was it again
where the telemetry was completely bonkers
and the rocket just went crazy
i could swear i have a gif saved somewhere
FOUND IT
least crazy antares rocket telemetry
ripe island
ANTARES CAN BE REUSED 10 TIMES
misty surge
Cyngus
smoky rune
We are not bringing that back
can we bring Soyuz in the forest back then
ripe island
can we bring Soyuz in the forest back then
smoky rune
spark pike
scenic pumice
emdangered species
red ibex
NG-18 Docking
crisp mountain
https://twitter.com/nextspaceflight/status/1589572047063375872
https://twitter.com/gewoonlukas_/status/1589572463662608384
https://twitter.com/nextspaceflight/status/1589572995802365955
Twitter
might have been intentional
nova geyser
i saw that and I was thinking whether or not this was a graphic glitch
crisp mountain
It makes sense considering the 2nd stage is a solid and it has to waste fuel if the first stage overpreforms
hearty crag
Nah that's definitely not a graphical glitch
It was so smooth and had thruster inputs to turn back around
That shit happened lmao
Whilst it may have been nominal and required
That shit goofy
crisp mountain
I love Antares
soft frigate
Me too
crisp gyro
crisp mountain
the goofy aaa romket
scenic pumice
soft frigate
Lucy moment https://blogs.nasa.gov/ng-crs-18/2022/11/07/one-cygnus-solar-array-d...
.... Not again
nova geyser
the curse of the circular solar array
sour zinc
Why Cygnus. Why.
scenic pumice
its berthing not docking 🤓
ripe island
its berthing not docking 🤓
YOU DARK GREEN
sour zinc
Omg
tidal ledge
NG-18 Coast & Arrival
tidal ledge
Lucy moment https://blogs.nasa.gov/ng-crs-18/2022/11/07/one-cygnus-solar-array-d...
i’m kinda glad orion doesn’t use these anymore
spark pike
Lucky solar array
amber hull
misty surge
Has this happened before to a Cygnus or am I tripping
crisp gyro
Almost there
misty surge
Almost there
Death ring
crisp gyro
paper mulch
🦢
ripe island
Birb
potent radish
Does anyone know if they are going to try to unfold the other solar panel now that it's docked? Maybe during a spacewalk that is already scheduled?
red ibex
It doesn't make sense, let alone a space bed.
I guess if they try to deploy the solar panel, it is with standard procedure, either before or after leaving the ISS, if the spacecraft has to deploy some cargo, maybe they try, if it is just carrying junk, then I guess they won't try anything
potent radish
Its only going to be carrying junk. But you wouldn't want it to lose power during undock and end up uncontrolled. Still, 1 panel should be plenty
soft frigate
Its only going to be carrying junk. But you wouldn't want it to lose power duri...
If it made it to Station alright I don't see why it can't achieve its self-immolation
potent radish
You're right. still, I can imagine the Northrop engineers might want to get some info from it so they might do it just for that. Cygnus isn't getting retired anytime soon
ripe island
Tbf yeah could be interesting to gather intel
red ibex
If it made it to Station alright I don't see why it can't achieve its self-immol...
Yeah
Yes, that's what they are doing, looking for the root cause, so they will look for the solution and may test it just in a simulator or deploy the panel to verify that the solution does work.
Well
potent radish
Awesome thanks!
So I'm guessing the acoustic blanket is inside the fairing and dampens the deafening sound of launch?
spark pike
It's basically just high tec loft insulation
potent radish
Well, that would make sense then. Probably no need to manually inspect the Cygnus itself then. They could probably confirm that by looking at engineering camera footage from inside the fairing
broken ledge
https://twitter.com/StephenClark1/status/1590455363840933889
I can’t help but think the wacky attitude when the fairing separates caused this
I can easily see the fairing interior contacting the spacecraft exterior when it was dropped sideways from the velocity vector, not behind as planned
misty surge
Mfw
spark pike
Cygnus can be reused 10 time