Japan grind

[zealous fog]

i wanna grind Japan because i wanna play the ST-A3 and the Zeros
any recommendations for Japan ground and air please?

[hollow echo]

as in premiums or what are you specifically asking for? 😄
line ups?

[zealous fog]

tech tree stuff to grind making my way to 6.7
i rememeber hearing that Japan ground sucks up until the American Chaffee at 3.3 or 3.7

[hollow echo]

lets talk here, yeah.

uhm lemme check

i'll send you screenshots of my line ups (i hope i havent deleted my low br line ups)

[zealous fog]

https://tenor.com/view/kiwi-kiwi-bird-bird-running-away-funny-gif-3583877191952351361

[hollow echo]

i did 🙁

hmm...
i dont know about rank 1 tbh since you play like 3 games and are done...

just play whatever feels good for you

in rank 2 the Chi-Ha Kai, Chi-He have a stab so they are fine

the Chi-Ha LG has all the crew sitting on top of the tank which people just always forget and fumble

[zealous fog]

yeah im quite familiar with that thing.

i utterly despise the Long Gun

[hollow echo]

lol

its so fun

100mm pen with nearly 2kg TNT

hilarious thing

[zealous fog]

with some of the shots ive seen LGs pull i could swear its got a laser range finder 😔

[zealous fog]

i was about to say "thats worse than a 76 sherman's pen" and then i remembered its like 3.7

thats a nuclear bomb

[hollow echo]

but yeah

[hollow echo]

2.7

XD

once you reach the chaffee its all fine tbh

Chi-Ri is also a lot of fun with its semi autoloader thingy

and for your video with that song

i'd even recommend using the shinden instead of a zero

[zealous fog]

i got a Japanese premium test drive from the battlepass a few months ago so i got a LITTLE head start 😔

[zealous fog]

no clue what that thing is but surely i can figure it out easy enough

what the hell is that.

[hollow echo]

pure beauty and glory

[zealous fog]

its so.... i dont even know what to say

[hollow echo]

perfect?

:3

[zealous fog]

can it even turn??

[hollow echo]

its okay

[zealous fog]

No.

[hollow echo]

but it has funny guns

[hollow echo]

dont trust stat cards lol

i can tell you, its hilarious as CAS

4 x 30mm

SLAP

[zealous fog]

hot damn four 30MMs 🤤

[hollow echo]

you even get 4 tiny bombs

[zealous fog]

how am i going to kamikaze bomb with these 😔

[hollow echo]

it is quite over BR-ed

did you watch Godzilla Minus One?

great movie, can recommend

XD

[zealous fog]

who dropped this Messerschmitt 262 on it's head? it looks wierd

[hollow echo]

oh yeah that

uhm

[zealous fog]

i saw King of the Monsters and that one that came out in i think 2016

[hollow echo]

Minus One is so freakin good. rather small budget but imo one of the best Godzilla movies

japanese Air Tree is kinda rough though...

like. at least when i grinded it

(before they added thai)

[zealous fog]

damn theyre trying to milk this thing for all its worth

[zealous fog]

this is Thailand? (i am bad at flags)

[hollow echo]

yes

about the Zeros

they are, technically, terrible planes on average

they turn

thats it

BUT

they are perfect for the furball meta lol

[zealous fog]

i made it VERY far in the ground tree before i ragequit

[hollow echo]

XD

[zealous fog]

translate please

[hollow echo]

sounds like a general warthunder problem

[hollow echo]

everything just flies straight on without climbing and then you have 20 guys turnfighting

instead of climbing and using energy etc.

you will constantly find P-51s trying to outpull your zero

which is hilarious

[zealous fog]

... i have no words

i remember this piece of shit
the Ha-Go DONT GO

[hollow echo]

are you playing realistic or arcade?

[zealous fog]

the onyl good gamemode fr

6.7 queues staight into 7.7 in 2 seconds 🙄
and 7.7 to 8.7

:(

2 minutes just to die immediately

im gonna crashout and i havent even played Japan yet

[zealous fog]

im switching to arcade because realistic has 9 minute queues just to die to the lifeless level 100s in premiums

[hollow echo]

thats crazy

[compact rain]

A7m2, b7a2, n1k1 ja, and j2m2 are all fun af planes and good in grb too.

1.3, 2.7, 3.7/4.0, 5.7, 6.3, 7.3/7.7, 8.3, 9.0, 11.3 are all worth playing for japan and have viable lineups for 7 crew slots w 2 being air crews

[zealous fog]

you didnt mention 6.7... is the ST-A3 ass or something?

[compact rain]

Heard it’s solid. Haven’t played them myself

[zealous fog]

5 or 6 second auto loader with a range finder

paper armor though

like a M46 or M47 but even weaker to the front

[hollow echo]

6.7 is pretty solid.

The sta3 gets the Autoloader while the type gets mobility.

Nice guns but zero armor 😅

[zealous fog]

my favorite medium tank is the M47
i dont think armor is a problem

(the Patton II can be pierced at a 35 degree angle by a BTR-80A)

[hollow echo]

All i can tell you is that i spaded every vehicle from rank 3 and up in the japanese tree and it was lots of fun

Except that 2 missile thingy

[zealous fog]

Type 60 SPG?

[hollow echo]

Hmm the foldered one with the guided missiles

[zealous fog]

Japan gets a Gepard???

[hollow echo]

The one with the two recoilless rifles is amazing

[hollow echo]

Somewhat. Yes

Looks more like a gundam xD

[zealous fog]

what the fuck.

[hollow echo]

And it only gets -5° of gun depression but like the type 74s and type 90s it gets a funny suspension

[hollow echo]

Yeah this one! Haven't touched that xD

[zealous fog]

i dont blame you

it looks atrocious

[hollow echo]

The SPRG is hilarious though

[zealous fog]

i was genuinely going to grind Japan ground to 6.7 but the 9 minute queues just to face like 6 level 100s wasnt worth it imo

so now im continuing the USSR on the grind for the IS-4M and ZSU-57-2 :3

huh, that terror is Japanese (i had no clue)

[hollow echo]

Yeah those waiting times are nuts

[zealous fog]

arcade and realistic

[hollow echo]

Damn

[hollow echo]

Oh btw, don't buy that. XD

Also don't buy that tiger 1

[zealous fog]

i didnt plan on it

i dont plan on buying anything tbh

[hollow echo]

Yeah, just, if you ever think about it, not those 2 basically

[zealous fog]

Panzer III N? got it

there shouldnt even be premium tanks in rank I or II

maybe even III

[hollow echo]

MLRS is a meme vehicle, pretty useless and the Tiger 1 has those dumb fake launchers on the front corners that are in the way while aiming iirc (they take away gun depression i think)

[zealous fog]

i wanted to get that artillery Fiat but i couldnt :(

[hollow echo]

Sadge

Btw

[zealous fog]

i know the FIROS sucks but its so funny

[hollow echo]

Ho-Ri Production from the tech tree (not the premium) is absolutely insane

Premium one is good I heard but the tech tree one is broken

Modern MBT mobility with a gigantic gun that also reloads rather quick

[zealous fog]

everything that Panzerhaubitze has but better? minus the HE.

"How did we get here" - the Swedes being camped everywhere

i captured C and literally never even saw an enemy tank

[hollow echo]

More like an ISU or jagdpanther on crack

[zealous fog]

well the Jagdpanther sucks and i doubt crack could help that poor thing

[hollow echo]

Depends on the amount of crack :3

[zealous fog]

no ammount of crack can help that poor pathetic thing

[zealous fog]

kind sir Steve, the USSR is miserable and i dont want the ZSU-57-2 THAT bad anymore :(

advice?

[hollow echo]

every nation is miserable until you figure out how to use it properly.
some are better, some are worse.
keep it up, learn from your mistakes, maybe watch videos about the tanks youre playing, ALWAYS know how to fight everything you are going to face.

[zealous fog]

my mistake was playing no gun depression USSR

[zealous fog]

@hollow echo how do i get under 10 minute queues for Japanese 1.3 (RB and AB)? i just wanted to play Japan 😭

[hollow echo]

🤷

play something higher? 😄

i like the starter packs but the japanese one is 10 bucks so

[zealous fog]

i dont wanna buy a premium in general and especially not just to grind the ST-A3

at least its not all bad

i can research the TCM-20 and then the ZSU-57-2 in Israel

i did wanna grind the USSR for the ZSU-57-2 but the USSR is miserable as hell at 5.7 so i ragequit lmao

[nova coyote]

ik i'm late but it is a somewhat fun plane

it does turn quite well

[lapis flower]

Hello i have a major question to ask. I have been in a dilma if i should grind Japan or France. Which one in your guys opinion is better and why. I have grinded Sweden and i work so i want something to grind, Im up to rank 4 with Japan and rank 5 with France, i put this as well in the Frence Lobby Channel

[compact rain]

Posting this in both channels. I don’t think you can go wrong with either one. Japan is strong throughout the entire tree. Basically everywhere that is a lineup is a good enough lineup. Personally I think Japan has some of the strongest lineups 8.3+ for ground vehicles. France is similarly positioned where the 7.7+ lineups are, for the most part very good with the exception of 8.3/8.7 that takes a lot more skill and experience to play. I think both nations are worth playing as they have good low tier, mid tier, high tier, and top tier lineups.

[hollow echo]

Personally i would rather go with Japan.
At basically any point you have, like Rojta said, very solid line ups.
Especially since the addition of Thailand.

France is good but i feel like it is way more skill dependent than japan.
You have less line ups and some very frustrating ones like 8.3/8.7 and some that are only good if you are really good at the game like 8.0 imo.

If you look at air, japan had huge problems before but they have been fixed by adding thailand or some other planes to the TT.

[viscid berry]

Its is a fine aa

[viscid berry]

• 2 months later, well the crew named it Guntank after gundam :3

[hollow echo]

he was referring to the Type 60 ATM there XD

[viscid berry]

Look, fine aa haha

[spark edge]

working up Japan air, is the J2M5 a significant upgrade to the M3?

[viscid berry]

Compare them in the wiki, but not a big update

Still a solid plane though

M3 is 596km/h at 5.5km, M5 is 615km/h at 6,580km

The M3 has a better climb rate of 21.3 m/s, M5 is a climb rate of 17.5 m/s

Its due to the different engine

[whole comet]

i find the statcards really lacking in info

[spark edge]

stat cards always been like that. im a ground player who switched up to air recently and I always wanted them to say if the guns were stabilized, instead you have to go to xray view and highlight the gun mechanism itself and read the description which is super lame

Sure, above 9.0 you can assume a gun is stabilized for most vehicles but the ones at 8.0 are a toss up

you either have to test drive and look at the STAB icon or check wiki if you didnt know about that

[glass steeple]

basically no difference

the M5 is tuned slightly better for higher altitude

that's pretty much it

idk where he got those climbrates from because I've played both and they fly identical to each other

[viscid berry]

M5 is faster by 19km/h

[spark edge]

Sounds like slightly better to me

[glass steeple]

M3 has a better engine at low alts

M5 at higher

so it's either or

[spark edge]

marginal differences

[ancient blaze]

when it comes to Japan air the F-2A is amazing

only real downside is skill floor and matchmaker

[whole comet]

i highly recommend not buying a premium