R60

[gleaming harness]

struggling with the R60MKs on the MiG 21 lazur. anything i fire them at easily outruns them or flares them even within 2 km. especially frustrating as everything i fight has unflareable missilesthat delete me from 15 km away

[worldly crater]

you need to fire them from angles where the enemy won't see them (usually above or below) you can also fire them in a head on from 1km away

[gleaming harness]

ok thanks

[eternal halo]

Firstly learn to flare. Then 2nd the R-60M is a headon missiles

Shoot it at like 500m

[worldly crater]

500m is way too close front aspect

[eternal halo]

Have you used R-60s

Thats like the ideal range

[worldly crater]

yes

It might be ideal for the missile but you're also putting yourself in gun range

If the enemy decides to fch you die

A better example https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/699696813707493437/1258475541451767818/War_Thunder_2024.06.29_-_19.42.09.33.DVR_-_Trim.mp4?ex=6697576e&is=669605ee&hm=783e173e9a1b19b3a2d32f87cf33cd9788ee90a7cfa9ea2c0121f27d87f16279&

[eternal halo]

Way too far

If he flared he would have lived

[worldly crater]

it's safer than putting yourself in gun range

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/699696813707493437/1259581788716794027/War_Thunder_2024.07.07_-_20.21.59.24.DVR_-_Trim.mp4?ex=66976934&is=669617b4&hm=0c660ba7ca34c6c4933467a6a2de402b214058b1a63fbeafc5e8ec191018feeb&

There's 500m

[gleaming harness]

less flaring more the F14s radar missiles

i know how to shake off IR

[worldly crater]

If that guy decided to use his gun I would've died

[eternal halo]

So you need to learn to notch

I would say go see defyns radar vid he made recently

[gleaming harness]

alr