#CAS discousin

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steady rune
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I don´t have anything against players that get like 5 kills and spawn a cas plane, but 1 kill and one assist is just wrong.
Everyone in the pic btw is a first spawn.
I know you can´t just increase the sp cost for cas because then nobody would spawn spaa, but stuff like being able to first spawn a heli is just ridiculous.
any opinions on this topic?

orchid willow
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I think you can raise the sp cost, and the flip side of it is you need to greatly increase the rewards for shooting down a plane
And honestly, I think if somebody with 1 kill bombs you and then like... crashes... you know, a manuever kill, they shouldnt get the rewards, or at least not full rewards for killing you, and likewise you shouldnt get punished by loosing those sp, or maybe sp costs increase muxh less for your next spawn, not sure

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Something that basically makes it so that losers get punished for being losers enstead of punishing unlucky people for being unlucky

lofty shoal
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I feel that teamkilling cas because they spawn cas is not good

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Thoughts on this?

orchid willow
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I would agree with that

unreal tulip
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They can't even get the damn severe damage to work with any consistency and you wanna have them try to have a system to judge "maneuver kills"

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And increasing the reward for shooting down planes literally incentivizes people to play planes...

orchid willow
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Only if they make it so that the reward is universal and not ground to air

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Plus a system to judge manuever kills would be kinda easy

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Did the plane crash or get shot down?
Crash? Ok, did it actually hit the ground, or J out?
Crash? Ok, was it within the tank combat zone?
Yes, there you go

unreal tulip
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It really isn't. Again, they can't get the severe damage to work consistently.

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Now add a scenario where one plane has to make a hard maneuver to dodge another plane, and they crash. Under your "easy" system they're now penalized for avoiding killing their teammate. OR, say it's even an enemy plane that they dodge. They're now being penalized for choosing not to ram an enemy to death, meaning that they would have an incentive to choose to ram to avoid a penalty.

orchid willow
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Im on team you should ram them anyway in that incredibly niche scenario
And if your somehow flying into other planes that often in Ground RB then maybe we need some more reasons to disincetivice CAS spam....

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And mind you, I myself crash plenty in planes

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Like I will be on the forefront of being penelized for being bad, but if it makes actually playing AA and being on the ground and getting pointlessly reveng bombed more tolerable, then good

unreal tulip
orchid willow
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Do you get a bonus for team killing?
No, therefore not encouraging anyone to team kill

unreal tulip
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You quite literally said "you should ram them anyway"

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Meaning you're encouraging them to kill their own team to avoid your proposed penalties

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It's that simple