Le Baguette Gang | Bawz' Bunker | Page 4

cinder geyser Mar 14, 2024, 3:36 AM

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Got 1/4 of the Hungarian TU-2 done

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Probably gonna ignore the IL-10 entirely

weary furnace Mar 14, 2024, 3:56 AM

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Just needs it's engine and it's rounds and it's thermals

agile ice Mar 14, 2024, 4:12 AM

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weary furnace Just needs it's engine and it's rounds and it's thermals

and it's armour (at least for the SXXI)

weary furnace Mar 14, 2024, 4:55 AM

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Do any French tank have the diggy diggy hole apparatus

swift nacelle Mar 14, 2024, 7:01 AM

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I don't believe that they have a diggy diggy hole thing

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But I don't have top tier so I'm not sure

weary furnace Mar 14, 2024, 7:33 AM

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What's a wes Sex

dusky wharf Mar 14, 2024, 7:34 AM

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weary furnace What's a wes Sex

Look in a Heli tree

weary furnace Mar 14, 2024, 2:39 PM

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Facing so many Leopard 2's with my 9.3 lineup sucks

cunning sparrow Mar 15, 2024, 3:48 AM

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Ofc, all night full uptiers into russia. Gdit

swift nacelle Mar 15, 2024, 4:10 AM

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BRO THIS FUCKING KV1 SOMEHOW BOUNCES MY HE?!?!?

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and I love getting bombed for absolutely no reason

cinder geyser Mar 15, 2024, 4:12 AM

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Why TF you shooting a KV with HE to begin with

swift nacelle Mar 15, 2024, 4:12 AM

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Because brummbar

cinder geyser Mar 15, 2024, 4:12 AM

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Sir this is French chat 😛

swift nacelle Mar 15, 2024, 4:12 AM

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61 mm pen (Should overpressure the sides easily)

swift nacelle Mar 15, 2024, 4:12 AM

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cinder geyser Sir this is French chat 😛

Ik, but u guys only people that reply lmao

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And most of the time I talk about french vehicles

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noo I left the game to play the AUF1 and I get sniped instantly

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I hate that weird iteration of the poland map

cinder geyser Mar 15, 2024, 4:14 AM

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Pen isn't much of a factor in overpressure. Most likely should have been a kill but I don't trust HE enough to ever bring any tbh

swift nacelle Mar 15, 2024, 4:15 AM

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cinder geyser Pen isn't *much* of a factor in overpressure. Most likely should have been a kil...

Wait it isn't a factor?

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And the reload is too long to bring heat

cinder geyser Mar 15, 2024, 4:15 AM

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It is, just not one of the bigger ones, is my understanding

swift nacelle Mar 15, 2024, 4:15 AM

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Huh

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I've been lied to

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all this time I thought it was a major one

cinder geyser Mar 15, 2024, 4:16 AM

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I think the order is Whether or Not a vehicle is open topped, then explosive mass, then pen

swift nacelle Mar 15, 2024, 4:16 AM

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ohhhhh

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huh

cinder geyser Mar 15, 2024, 4:16 AM

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Which creates some "funnies"

swift nacelle Mar 15, 2024, 4:17 AM

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Nah but my HE bounced

cinder geyser Mar 15, 2024, 4:17 AM

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Bounce or Non-Pen?

swift nacelle Mar 15, 2024, 4:17 AM

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Bounce

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the replay said bounce and showed it did something stupid as

cinder geyser Mar 15, 2024, 4:18 AM

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I've seen a lot of goofy shell cams yesterday and today

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I've been sticking to air to avoid them 😛

swift nacelle Mar 15, 2024, 4:18 AM

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hopefully not new update messing stuff up

swift nacelle Mar 15, 2024, 4:20 AM

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cinder geyser I've been sticking to air to avoid them 😛

I hate air

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Absolutely despise it

cinder geyser Mar 15, 2024, 4:32 AM

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Im not as big on it as I once was

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But I need to push up some lines to get CAP for grb

agile ice Mar 15, 2024, 5:15 AM

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swift nacelle hopefully not new update messing stuff up

I mean that stuff already happens so probably just some bad luck

swift nacelle Mar 15, 2024, 5:26 AM

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first time for me lmao

cunning sparrow Mar 15, 2024, 9:57 AM

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Oph! My 120 obus pened a T-10M turret! It was glorious! Finally i got a russian turret bastard!

timber harness Mar 15, 2024, 12:55 PM

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cunning sparrow Oph! My 120 obus pened a T-10M turret! It was glorious! Finally i got a russian ...

o_o large caliber shells actually working as intended?

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unheard of

cunning sparrow Mar 15, 2024, 3:54 PM

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Yep. Side turret shot knocked out the breach and loader, next shot was a kill cause he angled his chassis

timber harness Mar 15, 2024, 3:58 PM

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cunning sparrow Yep. Side turret shot knocked out the breach and loader, next shot was a kill ca...

ggs

cunning sparrow Mar 15, 2024, 3:59 PM

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He then had the gall to bitch in chat about it. Not my fault he f’d up against french solid shot

timber harness Mar 15, 2024, 3:59 PM

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cunning sparrow He then had the gall to bitch in chat about it. Not my fault he f’d up against f...

nahh its too op we need to raise every french vehicle up by 1 br

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i bet if you moved the 25t to the german tree it would be 7.3 or some shit

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or russian

cunning sparrow Mar 15, 2024, 4:01 PM

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Doesn’t help either that i am experienced with france so i knew his angled chassis was a mistake on his end

timber harness Mar 15, 2024, 4:01 PM

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cunning sparrow Doesn’t help either that i am experienced with france so i knew his angled chass...

fr

cunning sparrow Mar 15, 2024, 4:01 PM

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timber harness i bet if you moved the 25t to the german tree it would be 7.3 or some shit

Yeah probably, or 6.7 cause it competes with the PT-76B and BMP

timber harness Mar 15, 2024, 4:02 PM

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cunning sparrow Yeah probably, or 6.7 cause it competes with the PT-76B and BMP

maybe

cunning sparrow Mar 15, 2024, 4:02 PM

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Just a guess

timber harness Mar 15, 2024, 4:02 PM

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its so fun to fight 906s and t55 amds

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very balanced

cunning sparrow Mar 15, 2024, 4:02 PM

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Also the lack of stabilizer is… destructive. I hate it.

cunning sparrow Mar 15, 2024, 4:03 PM

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timber harness its so fun to fight 906s and t55 amds

Parden my french… fuck the T-55 AMMDS

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I hate facing that thing

timber harness Mar 15, 2024, 4:03 PM

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cunning sparrow I hate facing that thing

fr

cunning sparrow Mar 15, 2024, 4:04 PM

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At least with the 906 a shot to the hull is a sure kill

timber harness Mar 15, 2024, 4:04 PM

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"JuSt FlAnK iT bRo!11!1!!"

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💀

cunning sparrow Mar 15, 2024, 4:04 PM

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I know. And they know its great and they’re so smug about it

timber harness Mar 15, 2024, 4:05 PM

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bro fr

cunning sparrow Mar 15, 2024, 4:06 PM

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It’s not at sweden levels of hate for me. But i despise that tank. Sweden i’m still on a hate streak with it. Won’t touch the nation

timber harness Mar 15, 2024, 4:06 PM

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cunning sparrow It’s not at sweden levels of hate for me. But i despise that tank. Sweden i’m st...

whys that?

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also its so great to fight APFSDS slingers from the mid 60s and 70s

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in my amx 50 surbaisse

cinder geyser Mar 15, 2024, 4:07 PM

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It's true you know, every tank should be able to pen every tank through the front

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🙄

timber harness Mar 15, 2024, 4:08 PM

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cinder geyser It's true you know, every tank should be able to pen every tank through the fron...

it makes playing heavy tanks so fun!!!

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light tank meta go brr

cunning sparrow Mar 15, 2024, 4:09 PM

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When i was starting to grind out france BR 1- starters, Sweden was introduced. Every mf starter swedish tank st that point had APDS. Which nullified anything my french tanks could do. Plus, early france has… bad guns. So combine stupid op early sweden gun with stupid bouncy armor and they made my initial grind out of France and Japan BR 1 a living hell

cinder geyser Mar 15, 2024, 4:09 PM

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Sweden low BR guns are hot dick

timber harness Mar 15, 2024, 4:09 PM

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cunning sparrow When i was starting to grind out france BR 1- starters, Sweden was introduced. E...

oof

cinder geyser Mar 15, 2024, 4:09 PM

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High pen and far higher shatter rate

timber harness Mar 15, 2024, 4:10 PM

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cinder geyser High pen and far higher shatter rate

i havent seen too many shatters

cunning sparrow Mar 15, 2024, 4:10 PM

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Not back then they didn’t

cinder geyser Mar 15, 2024, 4:10 PM

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You over - pen as much as anything else

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They did

timber harness Mar 15, 2024, 4:10 PM

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also i feel like the VTT is a bit over br'd

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an m16 turret at 3.0 is a bit of a struggle

cinder geyser Mar 15, 2024, 4:11 PM

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It isn't.

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Far more survivable than an M16

cunning sparrow Mar 15, 2024, 4:11 PM

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Either way, their introduction made those 2 initial grinds for me hell despise me jiving real good with early france. Once i had real guns in BR 2.3 up i was ok but until then… oh god it was a slaughter

cinder geyser Mar 15, 2024, 4:11 PM

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cunning sparrow Either way, their introduction made those 2 initial grinds for me hell despise m...

See but this just isn't logical

cunning sparrow Mar 15, 2024, 4:12 PM

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But it happened

timber harness Mar 15, 2024, 4:12 PM

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cinder geyser Far more survivable than an M16

fair

cinder geyser Mar 15, 2024, 4:12 PM

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Using the worst tanks in the game to form an opinion that mid tanks are somehow godly OP isn't logical

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Stuarts can do the same thing to those French tanks

timber harness Mar 15, 2024, 4:12 PM

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cunning sparrow Either way, their introduction made those 2 initial grinds for me hell despise m...

tbf at 2.3 you just get more survivability, allowing the pretty mid guns to do WORK

cinder geyser Mar 15, 2024, 4:12 PM

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Much less the Brits

timber harness Mar 15, 2024, 4:12 PM

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cinder geyser Using the worst tanks in the game to form an opinion that mid tanks are somehow ...

?

cinder geyser Mar 15, 2024, 4:13 PM

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Those swedish tanks have like 13-20mm armor

cunning sparrow Mar 15, 2024, 4:13 PM

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I’m not saying their op! Not by a long shot! I’m saying i hate the nation and won’t touch it cause of my memory

timber harness Mar 15, 2024, 4:13 PM

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cinder geyser Those swedish tanks have like 13-20mm armor

its a bit silly though, the like to bounce a lot of shells for some reason

cunning sparrow Mar 15, 2024, 4:13 PM

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It pissed me off with how nightmarish facing them initially was

cinder geyser Mar 15, 2024, 4:13 PM

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They really don't

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The only one of them that survives much is the M40/L because it's turret is like 6 different plates lapped over each other

cunning sparrow Mar 15, 2024, 4:14 PM

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Well…. 1 swedish tank is op but it’s armor is piercable by a french 37. The SAV 20

timber harness Mar 15, 2024, 4:14 PM

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cinder geyser They really don't

from what ive seen they do, but the snail is pretty wierd

dusky wharf Mar 15, 2024, 4:15 PM

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cunning sparrow Well…. 1 swedish tank is op but it’s armor is piercable by a french 37. The SAV ...

SAV isn't really that OP

timber harness Mar 15, 2024, 4:15 PM

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also when french m47

cinder geyser Mar 15, 2024, 4:15 PM

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Please no, M47 is crap

dusky wharf Mar 15, 2024, 4:15 PM

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cinder geyser Please no, M47 is crap

People want the modernised M47 from Iran in game

cunning sparrow Mar 15, 2024, 4:16 PM

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1.2 second on a strong HEAT shell? If your smart and being sweden usually means it’s not your first nation so you know how and where to aim which makes it dam good

cinder geyser Mar 15, 2024, 4:16 PM

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cunning sparrow 1.2 second on a strong HEAT shell? If your smart and being sweden usually means ...

It isn't heat

dusky wharf Mar 15, 2024, 4:16 PM

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SAV 20 doesn't get HEAT

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Its 120mm APHE

cinder geyser Mar 15, 2024, 4:16 PM

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dusky wharf People want the modernised M47 from Iran in game

I mean it looks cool at least

dusky wharf Mar 15, 2024, 4:16 PM

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Or HE

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Ikv or the lower SAV has HEAT

cunning sparrow Mar 15, 2024, 4:17 PM

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Unchanged, aphe is still a great round, even better cause its known for 1 shot kills

dusky wharf Mar 15, 2024, 4:17 PM

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If you can pen the target

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88mm of pen is low for a 120mm gun

cunning sparrow Mar 15, 2024, 4:17 PM

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The premium sav that bawz trick people into buying to he could troll them with the KV-1B

dusky wharf Mar 15, 2024, 4:18 PM

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Yeah because its an uparmoured KV than the SAV has no change to kill unless dead side on

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I used to abuse SAV in the 3.7 ARL

cunning sparrow Mar 15, 2024, 4:19 PM

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I know. And i understand. I’m not asking people to be with me in my hate of swedish vehicles, but i was asked why so i explained. Please just accept that for now i can’t and won’t touch sweden with a 100’ pole

timber harness Mar 15, 2024, 4:19 PM

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wow so fun

dusky wharf Mar 15, 2024, 4:20 PM

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I play Sweden for the Centurions tbh

timber harness Mar 15, 2024, 4:20 PM

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just spent 3 minutes getting repeatedly tracked and barreled by a 37-2

dusky wharf Mar 15, 2024, 4:20 PM

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Gotta have them all

timber harness Mar 15, 2024, 4:20 PM

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then got cas'd while tanking shots from four directions

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the foch is silly

dusky wharf Mar 15, 2024, 4:20 PM

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I need to get the worse Sho't Kal Dalet at some point

cunning sparrow Mar 15, 2024, 4:20 PM

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The cents are fun. Finally got my SV with the mk 1 a week ago. It changes that tank on the spot

dusky wharf Mar 15, 2024, 4:21 PM

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timber harness the foch is silly

It's literally armour meta

timber harness Mar 15, 2024, 4:21 PM

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dusky wharf It's literally armour meta

not really? its pretty rough if you see more than 1 vehicle at a time

dusky wharf Mar 15, 2024, 4:22 PM

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Foch VS anything but HEAT its godly

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Even some HEAT can't pen it frontally

timber harness Mar 15, 2024, 4:22 PM

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dusky wharf Foch VS anything but HEAT its godly

it even tanks the weaker HEAT

cunning sparrow Mar 15, 2024, 4:22 PM

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Foch gets rocked by darts

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And HEAT

dusky wharf Mar 15, 2024, 4:22 PM

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I mean I play the T95

timber harness Mar 15, 2024, 4:22 PM

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not too much ig

dusky wharf Mar 15, 2024, 4:22 PM

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I know there's always a hard counter

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Like the Maus

cunning sparrow Mar 15, 2024, 4:23 PM

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BUT tbh that hard counter is a full uptier so…

dusky wharf Mar 15, 2024, 4:23 PM

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I used to eat them alive with the Dalet when it was 8.3

timber harness Mar 15, 2024, 4:23 PM

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maus is ezpz to kill

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with the t95

dusky wharf Mar 15, 2024, 4:23 PM

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T95 gets rocked by HEAT and Fin rounds

timber harness Mar 15, 2024, 4:23 PM

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turret cheeks go brr

timber harness Mar 15, 2024, 4:23 PM

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dusky wharf T95 gets rocked by HEAT and Fin rounds

true

dusky wharf Mar 15, 2024, 4:23 PM

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Same as the Foch

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Foch gun is also incredible

timber harness Mar 15, 2024, 4:24 PM

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dusky wharf Same as the Foch

HEAT isnt too bad, you usually won't be out for more than 10 seconds

dusky wharf Mar 15, 2024, 4:24 PM

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Even when you're out

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You have an MG151

cunning sparrow Mar 15, 2024, 4:24 PM

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I felt so mean in the 13-90. Cheeked a maus in both cheeks, tracked and kills his gun, then went to the side. He shoot the turret and i ammo racked him

dusky wharf Mar 15, 2024, 4:25 PM

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Having a 20mm as a utility weapon is great

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Especially behind amazing armour

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And decent mobility

cunning sparrow Mar 15, 2024, 4:26 PM

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Dude yes. The amx-30’s 20mm gun is amazing utility. And the foch’s 20

timber harness Mar 15, 2024, 4:26 PM

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dusky wharf Having a 20mm as a utility weapon is great

15mm

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the 20mm on the amx is fucking great

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you can break barrels with it

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its so scummy to pop someone's gunner and even if they have commander override, they don't have a barrel by the time it kicks in

dusky wharf Mar 15, 2024, 4:27 PM

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timber harness 15mm

I keep thinking it has the plane one

cunning sparrow Mar 15, 2024, 4:27 PM

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My first foch kill was a heli with the gun XD

timber harness Mar 15, 2024, 4:27 PM

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then you realize the turm gets a 30mm, full stab, and the same (roughly) gun at the same br

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and you die inside

cunning sparrow Mar 15, 2024, 4:28 PM

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I face en all the time now that i have the amx-30 and dca 30

timber harness Mar 15, 2024, 4:29 PM

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if gaijin didnt do wr balancing it would probably be higher

cinder geyser Mar 15, 2024, 5:01 PM

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easy

timber harness Mar 15, 2024, 5:20 PM

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cinder geyser easy

ggs

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man i just shot a t55's barrel with a 120mm AP shell and it didnt even damage it

swift nacelle Mar 15, 2024, 6:53 PM

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cunning sparrow Parden my french… fuck the T-55 AMMDS

I despise them

cunning sparrow Mar 15, 2024, 6:59 PM

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I think most do. Dam thing is undertiered. Yet i only face them without Sabot so… i’m guessing sabot changed how good the armor is

cunning sparrow Mar 15, 2024, 10:06 PM

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Anyone try out the quad .50 truck or the alpha jet yet?

cinder geyser Mar 16, 2024, 2:31 AM

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The VTT is silly

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Super high zoom

agile ice Mar 16, 2024, 3:56 AM

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cunning sparrow I think most do. Dam thing is undertiered. Yet i only face them without Sabot so...

It’s really just French tanks and their crappy guns plus getting uptiered from 7.7 to face them all the time. With the amx 30 they’re easier to deal with and with the B2’s they’re basically butter

cunning sparrow Mar 16, 2024, 4:01 AM

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i figured it was the uptier with Solid shot issue. but i penned a T-10M last night so maybe something changed for france slightly

agile ice Mar 16, 2024, 4:29 AM

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I mean the 120 mm still does work it’s the smaller guns that struggle more like the 90 and 100 mm but the can kill them just not as easily

cunning sparrow Mar 16, 2024, 4:34 AM

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my new lineup

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cinder geyser Mar 16, 2024, 4:46 AM

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Yeah the 120 is a fine gun

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Not a big fan of the 100 for whichever reason though

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In the bit I've used it

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But then I've just been playing ELC more than anything anyway

agile ice Mar 16, 2024, 5:14 AM

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cunning sparrow

How are you finding the ACRA? I skipped it

cunning sparrow Mar 16, 2024, 5:20 AM

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the missile take some getting used to. definately for snipers and flankers, but overall. not bad honestly

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bounced a few shots surprisingly in my first match

agile ice Mar 16, 2024, 5:26 AM

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Nice might have to go down that line for my 8.7 lineup. I’ve still been bringing the char 25 and it’s nice to have the reload but you really gotta flank and position well with it

cunning sparrow Mar 16, 2024, 5:37 AM

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ACRA def has some issues, but most of mine could be stock issues

weary furnace Mar 16, 2024, 5:54 AM

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God i don't understand why the AMX-32 (120) and AMX-32(105) is at the same br.
The 120 has a better round with the same reload time and a better engine and mobility, and a little better armor with spaced armor.

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And the 120 has heatfs instead of regular heat

agile ice Mar 16, 2024, 6:41 AM

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I mean the heat only matters to start but mostly it’s just compression, put the 105 at 9.0 and it’s pretty much the best mbt at that br but put the 120 at 9.7 and then why is it the same br as the amx-40 which is just better

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Or well one of the best at 9.0 it probably wouldn’t outright be the best there are other good contenders still

weary furnace Mar 16, 2024, 6:47 AM

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The OF-40 is at 9.0, miles better than the 105 in mobility and in a 1 on 1 would easily outflank it, the only thing it doesn't have is thermals and the 20 mm

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The 105 stat card says it can go 65 km/h but it struggles going 50, and going through turns at a city map it has the same mobility as a damn Sherman because it can't accelerate at all

coral tusk Mar 16, 2024, 7:27 AM

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How's the Santal AA system?

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And should I get the mirage F1C 200 and the Tiger HAP

cunning sparrow Mar 16, 2024, 7:56 AM

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the F1c isn't bad but it can't carry the Super 530D which is a detriment but it can carry magic 2s, bombs, and ngl 530Es and Fs are fun

coral tusk Mar 16, 2024, 8:01 AM

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How is it's flight performance

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And how should I best use the Tiger HAP to grind?

cunning sparrow Mar 16, 2024, 8:12 AM

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Its… not great ngl. It does okay. But you get MTI (pulse doppler radar) so that’s nice

agile ice Mar 16, 2024, 8:13 AM

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Don't use the premium heli to grind heli's
The F1C flight performance is pretty good for 11.3 but you accelerate slow and constant uptiers

coral tusk Mar 16, 2024, 9:55 AM

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2 magic 2s tho

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I hear they are sure kills within 1.5 km

weary furnace Mar 16, 2024, 11:00 AM

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They are

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Unless the enemy spends half their countermeasures in a few seconds

weary furnace Mar 16, 2024, 11:35 AM

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Leclerc with 140mm cannon, when gaijin

cinder geyser Mar 16, 2024, 12:22 PM

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Maybe when we get an MBT-2000

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140mm primary, 40mm secondary

weary furnace Mar 16, 2024, 12:48 PM

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France has an mbt 2000?

weary furnace Mar 16, 2024, 12:49 PM

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weary furnace Leclerc with 140mm cannon, when gaijin

I think this can be an event vehicle like the object 292, same big cannon tanks

weary furnace Mar 16, 2024, 12:51 PM

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weary furnace France has an mbt 2000?

France does not

cinder geyser Mar 16, 2024, 12:51 PM

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It's swedish

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Also known as the Strv 140/40

weary furnace Mar 16, 2024, 12:54 PM

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I thought you were talking about the Chinese thing

agile ice Mar 16, 2024, 2:25 PM

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Yeah mbt 2000 is kinda incorrect it’s the strv 2000 and they only ever built a mock up

cunning sparrow Mar 16, 2024, 3:34 PM

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Not like that’s ever stopped them before

cinder geyser Mar 16, 2024, 4:07 PM

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It was referred to both ways

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But strv was more common for sure

cunning sparrow Mar 16, 2024, 6:42 PM

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True.

cunning sparrow Mar 16, 2024, 7:34 PM

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coral tusk I hear they are sure kills within 1.5 km

Just don’t head on with them. IRCCM doesn’t work with headons

coral tusk Mar 16, 2024, 7:42 PM

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It sure doesn't sadly.

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Unless it's an R73 or Aim9M

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Then you are better off ejecting

cunning sparrow Mar 16, 2024, 9:34 PM

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Which drives me nuts. If it’s an R73 or Aim 9M it just will hit you. Nothing you can do

agile ice Mar 16, 2024, 11:12 PM

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cinder geyser It was referred to both ways

The reason it’s only kinda incorrect is that strv is basically mbt is Swedish

swift nacelle Mar 18, 2024, 8:14 AM

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Wsg

cunning sparrow Mar 19, 2024, 8:29 PM

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Not much. I think the AMX-30 ACRA is underated. For it’s tier its deadly if you use it right. First game out with it i got 30K SL before premium time

weary furnace Mar 20, 2024, 1:47 AM

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cunning sparrow Not much. I think the AMX-30 ACRA is underated. For it’s tier its deadly if you ...

Has the ugliest turret though

weary furnace Mar 20, 2024, 1:48 AM

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cunning sparrow Which drives me nuts. If it’s an R73 or Aim 9M it just will hit you. Nothing you...

You're better off pre flaring when facing them

cunning sparrow Mar 20, 2024, 1:56 AM

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Yeah

agile ice Mar 20, 2024, 1:57 AM

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R73 and magic 2 have the same type of IRCCM whilst the 9M is a bit different

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For the first 2 they narrow the seeker head so it can only see a tiny little window pointed at the plane so a flare needs to get in that window and both of them will go for it whilst the 9M shuts off the seeker head and follows the direction the plane was currently moving and then turns the seeker head back on so if you're still there it will still track you

weary furnace Mar 20, 2024, 6:04 AM

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Yeah for the 9M you have to maneuver, but it also makes you bleed energy making you even more vulnerable

swift nacelle Mar 20, 2024, 6:54 AM

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HMMMMMMMMMMMM 4 HVAR ROCKETS somehow don't kill the vidar

cinder geyser Mar 20, 2024, 7:01 AM

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Welcome to HVARs

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Enjoy 🙂

swift nacelle Mar 20, 2024, 8:22 AM

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I thought hvars could overpressure almost anything

weary furnace Mar 20, 2024, 9:52 AM

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SNEB's are superior

cinder geyser Mar 20, 2024, 12:18 PM

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HVARs don't overpressure much at all

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Unless it's open top obvi

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That and don't they technically count as SAP-HE? Cause if so they shouldn't be able to at all actually

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Yeah they are

cunning sparrow Mar 20, 2024, 12:47 PM

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Aren’t SNEBs france’s version of the mighty mouse?

agile ice Mar 20, 2024, 1:55 PM

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Yeah they are, and currently anything with an explosive can over pressure whether that’s SAP-HE, HEAT or even APHE. How affective it is depends on how much HE and the HVAR is kinda crap as it and other SAP-HE things don’t have a whole heap of explosive mass compared to a HE rocket or a bomb.

cunning sparrow Mar 20, 2024, 1:56 PM

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True. HVARs have what… 1-2 Kg of explosives compared to Tiny tims uncle toms, SNEBS, mighty mice, etc?

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Uncle Toms if you can aim them are disgusting

cinder geyser Mar 20, 2024, 3:33 PM

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Ah it was switched back, got it

cinder geyser Mar 20, 2024, 3:34 PM

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cunning sparrow True. HVARs have what… 1-2 Kg of explosives compared to Tiny tims uncle toms, SN...

HVAR has 4.52 Equivalent and Mighty Mouse has 1.15ish

cunning sparrow Mar 20, 2024, 4:11 PM

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Yet SNEBS mighty mouse are more effective.

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Probably due to speed

cinder geyser Mar 20, 2024, 8:00 PM

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Well, a few things

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Better speed, better flight characteristics even at the same speed, and when all else fails, you have a fucking lot of em 😛

cunning sparrow Mar 20, 2024, 8:02 PM

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True. The F4U-7 gets what 100+?

obtuse zealot Mar 21, 2024, 3:34 AM

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@cunning sparrow

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Like 122 snebs

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for some reason there inaccurate as fuck tho

cunning sparrow Mar 21, 2024, 3:35 AM

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That’s a lot of passes with the corsair 7

obtuse zealot Mar 21, 2024, 3:35 AM

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like when your plane is straightened the trajectory of the rockets will still go off to the left it right

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or*

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idk I call it drifting

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I hate it, it's annoying

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strikemaster doesn't have the problem with it's missiles

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Strikemaster rockets are insanely accurate

cinder geyser Mar 21, 2024, 3:50 AM

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Mighty Mouse wasn't intended to be accurate

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It was intended to be something you could use to simply deny the enemy access to a given area of the sky through sheer volume

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Its use as an air to ground weapon was so improvised that the initial pods were primarily made of cardboard

swift nacelle Mar 21, 2024, 4:55 AM

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cunning sparrow Yet SNEBS mighty mouse are more effective.

isn't the sneb heat?

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I HATE HEAT

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MY MACHINE GUN DOES JACK AGAINST FENCES

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why doesn't it fucking break the fences

swift nacelle Mar 21, 2024, 7:36 AM

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cinder geyser Its use as an air to ground weapon was so improvised that the initial pods were ...

Wait really?

cinder geyser Mar 21, 2024, 12:16 PM

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The early LAU-3 pods were meant to be disposable, basically just cardboard coated with aluminum. That didn't last very long but I think it's silly it happened at all

timber harness Mar 22, 2024, 12:01 AM

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cunning sparrow Not much. I think the AMX-30 ACRA is underated. For it’s tier its deadly if you ...

it suffers from missile issues like flight time though, you'll never win a shot trade

cunning sparrow Mar 22, 2024, 12:12 AM

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Oh i’m well aware.

coral tusk Mar 22, 2024, 2:01 PM

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Should I talisman the Santal AA when I get it?

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Seems like a better ozelot but not quite strela levels of good

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I enjoy playing AA

weary furnace Mar 22, 2024, 2:45 PM

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Taling an AA is kinda weird

cunning sparrow Mar 22, 2024, 2:56 PM

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But at that BR the CAS is starting to get nasty with targeting computers

weary furnace Mar 22, 2024, 3:58 PM

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coral tusk Should I talisman the Santal AA when I get it?

Mistrals say they're all aspect missiles but really you want to fire them in the rear aspect

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Very hard to lock on front aspect

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And like most french weapon systems it's missing it's irl abilities, in game it only has 12G's of pull but irl it has 25

dusky wharf Mar 22, 2024, 4:02 PM

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FIM-92K are also better than Mistral SATCAP

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Plus the radar kind of gives the SANTAL away

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And due to it being on a VAB chassis and not a Wiesel 2 chassis its quite large

weary furnace Mar 22, 2024, 4:03 PM

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And it's also considerably shorter range than irl

dusky wharf Mar 22, 2024, 4:04 PM

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If Gaijin really cared they would add the VAB SPAA

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With 20mm guns and Mistral SATCAP

weary furnace Mar 22, 2024, 4:05 PM

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Spoilers: they don't

weary furnace Mar 22, 2024, 4:06 PM

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dusky wharf If Gaijin really cared they would add the VAB SPAA

Is that just the Sidam turret though?

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May be different idk

dusky wharf Mar 22, 2024, 4:06 PM

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weary furnace Is that just the Sidam turret though?

No

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Still the SANTAL turret just modified

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https://old-forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/499623-extended-french-aa-line/

War Thunder - Official Forum

Extended French AA line

This topic have for sole purpose to introduce the community the wide selection of french SPAA. a thing that is not well know is France had developped a large selection of SPAA vehicles, if only a few of them saw an active services, there was many of them who was meant for export and saw no order ...

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The old forums had good examples for French SPAA gaps

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Most French SPAA added have come from here

weary furnace Mar 22, 2024, 4:09 PM

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dusky wharf https://old-forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/499623-extended-french-aa-line...

Wow so many good vehicles

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I'd love some technicals

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Gepard Leclerc?!?!?!

dusky wharf Mar 22, 2024, 4:10 PM

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I also think they should grow some balls and add the Leclerc with a Gepard turret

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With FIM-92

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That is a Gepard A1 turret

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Not A2

dusky wharf Mar 22, 2024, 4:11 PM

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weary furnace Gepard Leclerc?!?!?!

Italy had a Gepard A1 turret slapped on an OF-40

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So it's not hard to believe

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And the Marksman turret went on pretty much everything

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Us Brits also tried out the DCA 30 production turret on a Chieftain Mk.5

weary furnace Mar 22, 2024, 4:14 PM

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This was also in the link, would be such a great IFV

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And I hope it's stabilized

dusky wharf Mar 22, 2024, 4:14 PM

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It is

weary furnace Mar 22, 2024, 4:14 PM

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I want it so bad

dusky wharf Mar 22, 2024, 4:14 PM

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It's the same gun as found on the EBRC Jaguar

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Missile launchers are fake

weary furnace Mar 22, 2024, 4:14 PM

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And I just knew it's existence 5 minutes ago

dusky wharf Mar 22, 2024, 4:15 PM

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dusky wharf Missile launchers are fake

RCWS isn't

weary furnace Mar 22, 2024, 4:15 PM

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dusky wharf Missile launchers are fake

Ah

weary furnace Mar 22, 2024, 4:15 PM

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dusky wharf RCWS isn't

What's that

dusky wharf Mar 22, 2024, 4:15 PM

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Remote Controlled Weapons System

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Its that 7.62mm MG turret on the roof

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Its only on an uparmoured AMX-10RC hull so no adjustable suspension and slower acceleration

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Also like 5t heavier

weary furnace Mar 22, 2024, 4:17 PM

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Why can't France have nice things 😦

dusky wharf Mar 22, 2024, 4:17 PM

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Same as Britain

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They don't make enough money for Gaijin

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Its also why Russia got another prem at 10.0

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Just for money

weary furnace Mar 22, 2024, 4:24 PM

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France has so many light vehicles they can add, it's literally their military doctrine

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We could have a rat lineup

swift nacelle Mar 22, 2024, 7:59 PM

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I want a rat lineup

boreal echo Mar 22, 2024, 9:21 PM

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Is the super mystere good?

weary furnace Mar 22, 2024, 9:27 PM

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boreal echo Is the super mystere good?

Not really

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Last time I played it the afterburner was so weak and it bleeds energy like crazy

boreal echo Mar 22, 2024, 9:28 PM

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So stick to sigma jet

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Thanks

atomic meadow Mar 23, 2024, 5:56 AM

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cunning sparrow But at that BR the CAS is starting to get nasty with targeting computers

I understand your perspective. It sounds like you're frustrated with how Close Air Support (CAS) mechanics can potentially incentivize players to prioritize aircraft over their ground vehicles, which may not align with the overall objectives of the game. This can disrupt the balance and gameplay dynamics, as players may opt to sacrifice their ground units in favor of aircraft actions.

Balancing the gameplay mechanics in any multiplayer game, especially one involving combined arms like War Thunder, can be a challenge. Developers often strive to create a balance where different tactics and strategies are viable, while also discouraging actions that might negatively impact the overall experience for players.

It's worth noting that game developers frequently adjust and update gameplay mechanics based on player feedback and ongoing testing to improve the overall experience. If you believe there's a specific issue with the CAS mechanics, you might consider sharing your feedback with the War Thunder development team or discussing your concerns with the game's community to see if others share your viewpoint.

weary furnace Mar 23, 2024, 8:04 AM

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Real gaijin reaction:

cunning sparrow Mar 23, 2024, 8:49 AM

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Not really what i said at all…

weary furnace Mar 23, 2024, 9:38 AM

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cunning sparrow But at that BR the CAS is starting to get nasty with targeting computers

And in an uptier you'll face AGM's

dusky wharf Mar 23, 2024, 9:40 AM

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weary furnace And in an uptier you'll face AGM's

That poor SANTAL I smacked from 6km away in my Buccaneer S.2B

weary furnace Mar 23, 2024, 9:42 AM

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hollow

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But it's mostly A-10 spam

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I truly wish there's a 9.3 French CAS that has countermeasures

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Been using the Etentard and it works but having cm's would be nice, I was hoping the Alpha would have it but no

dusky wharf Mar 23, 2024, 9:44 AM

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German one always has to be better

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They've recently removed the French Alpha Jets arrestor hook functionality

weary furnace Mar 23, 2024, 9:45 AM

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Germany suffers clueless

boreal echo Mar 23, 2024, 8:17 PM

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just got the sigma jet

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its really funny

cunning sparrow Mar 23, 2024, 8:53 PM

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I’m not there yet. I tried playing last night but every game was nothing but up-tiered spawn camping try hards so i stopped fir the night after 5 straight matches of that

weary furnace Mar 23, 2024, 9:35 PM

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How do we not have the Panhard ERC yet with 400 built

cunning sparrow Mar 23, 2024, 10:25 PM

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Cause Gaijin?

cinder geyser Mar 23, 2024, 11:32 PM

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weary furnace How do we not have the Panhard ERC yet with 400 built

I just want the SPAA variants based on the ERC

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Base ERC is damn ugly

cinder geyser Mar 24, 2024, 12:28 AM

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Controversial, Im sure

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but 7.7 france is very rapidly becoming my least favorite lineup in the game

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no distinction between any of the vehicles and if the enemy isnt window-licker level retarded you arent accomplishing anything decent

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AML-90 in particular

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is fucking

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https://tenor.com/view/chris-griffin-peeling-eyes-out-eye-bleach-agh-disgusting-gif-25493665

Tenor

cunning sparrow Mar 24, 2024, 1:04 AM

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the problem with 7.7 france isn't the lineup. its the constgant full uptier

cinder geyser Mar 24, 2024, 1:09 AM

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I havent even been getting uptiers

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A lot of 7.7 or 8.0

cunning sparrow Mar 24, 2024, 1:27 AM

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i get almost nothing but uptiers. its infuriating

cinder geyser Mar 24, 2024, 1:43 AM

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I said that and then immediately got 2 8.7 games so

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yeah

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I see what you mean lol

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I dont like the AML a bit but the El Salvador skin is really nice

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grand void Mar 24, 2024, 2:03 AM

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cinder geyser Base ERC is damn ugly

I quite like it

cinder geyser Mar 24, 2024, 2:53 AM

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I like aspects of it

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But I like this a lot more @grand void

weary furnace Mar 24, 2024, 3:00 AM

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The ERC looks like an armoured vehicle you'd see the most in a Coup

grand void Mar 24, 2024, 3:16 AM

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Prolly

swift nacelle Mar 24, 2024, 3:18 AM

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cinder geyser I dont like the AML a bit but the El Salvador skin is really nice

I love the AML

boreal echo Mar 24, 2024, 11:50 AM

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weary furnace The ERC looks like an armoured vehicle you'd see the most in a Coup

A lot of French vehicles do fight in bush wars and revolutions lol

swift nacelle Mar 24, 2024, 6:09 PM

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mainly because most wars france were involved in after WW2 were in Africa

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and poorer countries

boreal echo Mar 24, 2024, 6:40 PM

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france didnt let go of its colonies easily

cinder geyser Mar 24, 2024, 7:14 PM

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swift nacelle mainly because most wars france were involved in after WW2 were in Africa

Well even just exports

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Central America has a ton of AMLs and ERCs

boreal echo Mar 25, 2024, 2:06 AM

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How's the etandard to fly?

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I noticed in test drive it's pretty good turn rate at high speed

weary furnace Mar 25, 2024, 2:08 AM

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boreal echo How's the etandard to fly?

Better than the French fighters

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Which Etentard though

boreal echo Mar 25, 2024, 2:16 AM

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First one

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And I suppose the super as well

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May as well get both

weary furnace Mar 25, 2024, 2:19 AM

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They are both really good attackers

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I used the IVM quite a bit in ARB

boreal echo Mar 25, 2024, 2:22 AM

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I plan on using the ivm as my France grinder

weary furnace Mar 25, 2024, 2:24 AM

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boreal echo I plan on using the ivm as my France grinder

It's probably the best rank 6 French grinder

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I kinda regret just using the F-84F now

boreal echo Mar 25, 2024, 2:25 AM

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Ive used the vautour to grind a lot of france

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And alpha jet

weary furnace Mar 25, 2024, 2:32 AM

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They're also pretty good, but I think the Etentard is the best balance in fun and grinding effectiveness

obtuse zealot Mar 25, 2024, 5:24 AM

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cinder geyser It was intended to be something you could use to simply deny the enemy access to...

area of the sky?

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were they originally used not against ground targets

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also aren't snebs and mighty mice different

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or na

obtuse zealot Mar 25, 2024, 5:26 AM

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dusky wharf I also think they should grow some balls and add the Leclerc with a Gepard turre...

lol

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not gonna happen

obtuse zealot Mar 25, 2024, 5:30 AM

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dusky wharf If Gaijin really cared they would add the VAB SPAA

(GAIJIN can't give two fucks about adding actual good and new interesting french vehicles)

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as much as I wish they would tho

dusky wharf Mar 25, 2024, 7:06 AM

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obtuse zealot (GAIJIN can't give two fucks about adding actual good and new interesting french...

The VCI is unique enough

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They could've easily added the M16 MGMC

weary furnace Mar 25, 2024, 11:47 AM

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I kind of want the Matra durandal runway destroyer bomb

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Might be useful in sim

coral tusk Mar 25, 2024, 11:48 AM

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Doubt they will get it tho. Gaijin probably thinks they have enough unique "bombs" with the PGM 500-2000

cinder geyser Mar 25, 2024, 11:56 AM

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obtuse zealot area of the sky?

Yeah they were anti bomber rockets

buoyant crater Mar 25, 2024, 3:25 PM

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Are the 7.3 tanks even worth it?

cinder geyser Mar 25, 2024, 3:35 PM

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Foch is okay, 10M is shit

swift nacelle Mar 25, 2024, 5:56 PM

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buoyant crater Are the 7.3 tanks even worth it?

Foch is just a ton of armour

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and good cannon

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amx 10m is horrendous

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Extremely situational, and even when everything is perfect you'll die instantly

cunning sparrow Mar 25, 2024, 6:12 PM

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The foch is great! Until you face HEAT and dart throwers. Makes that big chunk of armor useless

swift nacelle Mar 26, 2024, 4:18 AM

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how the fuck do I play the AUF1

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it is absolute shit

cinder geyser Mar 26, 2024, 4:18 AM

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Correct!

swift nacelle Mar 26, 2024, 6:09 AM

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My K/D with it is 0.2

weary furnace Mar 26, 2024, 6:09 AM

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Damn

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It's that bad?

swift nacelle Mar 26, 2024, 6:09 AM

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fr is

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Massive head

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Long asf turret traverse

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suspension is wobbly, aggravated by the fact that the turret is humongoues

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humongous*

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idk if thats how to spell it

weary furnace Mar 26, 2024, 6:10 AM

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The stat card looks pretty good but I guess that's what you get for just looking at stats

swift nacelle Mar 26, 2024, 6:10 AM

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Only good thing is the reload (mobility is kinda good too, AMX 30 chassis)

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The round does less damage than the M107, and the best round for it is the proxy fuse

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also the vertical turret drive gets knocked out extremely easily

agile ice Mar 26, 2024, 6:25 AM

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Yeah only got the proxy version of the M107 which hurts it

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You definitely don't want to use that against tanks

swift nacelle Mar 26, 2024, 6:47 AM

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yea, good under 300m before the fuze arms itself

grand void Mar 26, 2024, 3:07 PM

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AMX 13 HOT any good?

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I'm thinking about skipping it and getting the 10RC

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And SK

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And then the 2 AMX 30s at 8.7

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Also the surbassié has a mount for a roof gun but doesn't have it

cinder geyser Mar 26, 2024, 3:15 PM

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grand void AMX 13 HOT any good?

I mean sort of

grand void Mar 26, 2024, 3:16 PM

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At least that's what this looks like

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cinder geyser Mar 26, 2024, 3:16 PM

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I wouldn't discourage playing it but I also can't it seriously

grand void Mar 26, 2024, 3:16 PM

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Cause I need only 5 tanks to start on the leclercs

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And I can research like six on the left side but I wanna know whether the sk or the amx13 are worth skipping

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I feel like the sk might be better tho cause auto loader 105

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Over getting missiles I won't use

cinder geyser Mar 26, 2024, 5:37 PM

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It's hard to compare them

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Neither are stabilized, both can die to .50s, and both have good mobility

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SK has LRF with sight adjustment though, I don't think AMX has either

boreal echo Mar 26, 2024, 7:16 PM

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6 good missiles or a cracked out amx

agile ice Mar 26, 2024, 9:55 PM

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grand void Cause I need only 5 tanks to start on the leclercs

If you’re on rank 6 and looking for the min number of tanks get both 30B2’s the Mars15 and the 2 spaa that gives you the 5 you need to start the leclercs and then you play 8.7 to research them

obtuse zealot Mar 27, 2024, 2:43 PM

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cunning sparrow The foch is great! Until you face HEAT and dart throwers. Makes that big chunk o...

yep, it's best for downtiers which you will get a lot at that br. And heat will mess you up but sometimes your armor can protect you.

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I've gotten a 15 kill game in it once.

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I have it all on rec

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I only take 15 shells lol

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I ran outta ammo and then rushed a 2s3m, killed.him with my 15mm lol

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I died then got 4 more kills I think or maybe it was 3

swift nacelle Mar 29, 2024, 6:23 AM

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Amx 13 dca 40 still competent at 8.0

weary furnace Mar 29, 2024, 6:25 AM

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swift nacelle Amx 13 dca 40 still competent at 8.0

Do you get god mode for taking it to 8.0?

swift nacelle Mar 29, 2024, 6:25 AM

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Nah, only skill matters

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It has to be 8.0 above the original br to get got mode I think

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But remember I say "competent"

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It cannot pen any main battle tanks apart from light ones such as leopard 1s

teal hazel Mar 29, 2024, 6:36 AM

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swift nacelle It has to be 8.0 above the original br to get got mode I think

5.3 above so in an uptier you could get God Mode

weary furnace Mar 29, 2024, 12:56 PM

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They buffed the Leclerc top speed by 1km/h this is life changing

boreal echo Mar 29, 2024, 6:24 PM

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Huge

swift nacelle Mar 29, 2024, 8:29 PM

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teal hazel 5.3 above so in an uptier you could get God Mode

I would need to play at 9.3 to get that

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It is 5.0 now

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I swear they silently nerfed the AMX 13 dca 40s acceleration as it feels sluggish in a straight line now

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It can only take out light targets too

teal hazel Mar 29, 2024, 8:42 PM

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swift nacelle It is 5.0 now

Bruh

swift nacelle Mar 29, 2024, 8:49 PM

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It is way over tiered imo

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You now face Is1s with that

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And some other ominous heavy tanks

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I loved bullying Panzers and getting regular 10 kill games

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To whoever made the "Le Baguette" forum, please change the name to "la Baguette" as a baguette in french is feminine

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It is quite annoying saying the name as I know it is incorrect

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Please change it quickly

boreal echo Mar 29, 2024, 9:10 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-gif-21179057

Tenor

swift nacelle Mar 29, 2024, 9:33 PM

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very infuriating

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as i am french

cinder geyser Mar 29, 2024, 10:34 PM

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Unfortunate 🤮

coral tusk Mar 29, 2024, 10:44 PM

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swift nacelle as i am french

Skill issue

swift nacelle Mar 29, 2024, 11:55 PM

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Big disability

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But you know an even bigger disability? Being British

swift nacelle Mar 30, 2024, 2:44 AM

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Pls rate this. First time trying to photoshop and I learnt this myself

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boreal echo Mar 30, 2024, 2:59 AM

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Lore accurate

swift nacelle Mar 30, 2024, 3:13 AM

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Thank you 🙂

boreal echo Mar 30, 2024, 9:11 PM

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does mirage 3 work

weary furnace Mar 30, 2024, 9:12 PM

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boreal echo does mirage 3 work

Work for what

boreal echo Mar 30, 2024, 9:17 PM

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air realism battle

swift nacelle Mar 31, 2024, 3:11 AM

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trying m26 out

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3rd game in it

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Positive K/D

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it is absolute pain

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crap

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The ap did jack to the tiger 2

cinder geyser Mar 31, 2024, 3:19 AM

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I mean

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The M26 is mid yeah but it's also a tiger II

agile ice Mar 31, 2024, 3:23 AM

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swift nacelle The ap did jack to the tiger 2

Welcome to France

swift nacelle Mar 31, 2024, 3:46 AM

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Nah but the french ap does a lot of spall

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The american one is horrendous

weary furnace Mar 31, 2024, 5:17 AM

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Mirage 2000D-RMV with MICA's please 🥺

cunning sparrow Mar 31, 2024, 1:25 PM

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I hope that’s coming. Or another varient of the Matra Super 530

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The D is nice but jesus we get it late

weary furnace Mar 31, 2024, 1:49 PM

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I think we have all the variants

cunning sparrow Mar 31, 2024, 3:06 PM

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Oh we do?! I guess i’m used to Russia and USA having 7 varients

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I do know the MICAs are brutal within 6 Km

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Also, i know the Matra 511s are meh, but man are they fun despite being early radar.

weary furnace Mar 31, 2024, 3:11 PM

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Eh I've seen Tu-4's dodge it

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Just go with the Nords

cunning sparrow Mar 31, 2024, 6:10 PM

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I like both tbh. If i could take 2 and 2 i would

boreal echo Mar 31, 2024, 9:40 PM

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Don't go with the nords

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The 511 is going to be more rewarding

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Most of the time a tu-4 is going to try and shoot it down with their defensive guns and whine about dying to a radar missile

cunning sparrow Mar 31, 2024, 10:43 PM

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I’ve gotten more kills with the Nords tbh

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People love to head on and i’ve gotten decent at nording there sorry butts to the face

grand void Apr 2, 2024, 1:45 PM

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How is the ELC bis?

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Just test drove it and small quick 90mm HEAT slinger seems fun

cinder geyser Apr 2, 2024, 2:34 PM

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Not very good

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If you have particularly good map knowledge and a bit of luck it can be very good, but you can't let enemies get anywhere close to you unless you are absolutely certain there is no chance they can get any support

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It's imo one of the most engagement - distance dependent vehicles

cunning sparrow Apr 2, 2024, 2:56 PM

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Depends. If your spotted you will be the target of hate for 2 reasons. 1. No armor so you can be dealt with quickly, 2, those who have faced it know your HEATFS will RUIN them quickly if they don’t. So you need to be a sniper and act like a rat. When i play it i get spotted asap no matter what to which i’ve suspected cheating a few times but had no proof. It is fun and yoh will kill with it but you have to he sneaky and use terrain and your albeit limited turret for ambushes

cinder geyser Apr 2, 2024, 3:04 PM

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Eh it's really not a scary gun

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Provided you're not open topped anyways 😛

cunning sparrow Apr 2, 2024, 3:32 PM

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Gunner shots which also take the breach say otherwise

grand void Apr 2, 2024, 3:34 PM

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cinder geyser Eh it's really not a scary gun

What gun does it have

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I guess that doesn't matter it probably fires the same french HEATFS as every other 90mm gun they have

cunning sparrow Apr 2, 2024, 3:35 PM

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90mm

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French 90mm heatFs, while it doesn’t overpressure does have great pen

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Believe me i’ve hit Hellcats and other open tops and no overpressure. Many times. It doesn’t do it

grand void Apr 2, 2024, 3:37 PM

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Depends where you hit lol

cinder geyser Apr 2, 2024, 3:37 PM

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cunning sparrow Gunner shots which also take the breach say otherwise

And then a .30 kills you because you're so short that they can fire through your roof 😛

grand void Apr 2, 2024, 3:37 PM

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I've overpressuered open tops

cinder geyser Apr 2, 2024, 3:37 PM

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It does overpressure though

grand void Apr 2, 2024, 3:38 PM

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cinder geyser And then a .30 kills you because you're so short that they can fire through your...

At that point I'm better off taking my EBR

cinder geyser Apr 2, 2024, 3:38 PM

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I killed 2 Jackson's that way in my last game with it

cunning sparrow Apr 2, 2024, 3:40 PM

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I’ve literally shot Jackson’s in the turret and it did nothing in terms of overpressure. And no it’s not my rig, i have the 12900KF, 3060Ti GDDR6X and 32 GB DDR 5

cinder geyser Apr 2, 2024, 3:40 PM

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Your PC couldn't ever have anything to do with it so....

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etc

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jesus fuck

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first game today is that

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second game today friendly somua pushes my M26 and friendly T32 into open and we both get killed

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very cool 🙂

grand void Apr 2, 2024, 4:01 PM

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Games for me have been dog water teammates aren't great today

cinder geyser Apr 2, 2024, 4:01 PM

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im HVARing that somua as we speak

grand void Apr 2, 2024, 4:02 PM

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I've done pretty decent but lost every game

cinder geyser Apr 2, 2024, 4:02 PM

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got him

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Man pushes two teammates out to their deaths and goes off in chat about bad teams

cinder geyser Apr 2, 2024, 4:30 PM

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you know its bad when you watch EIGHT people drive headlong into the same Jumbo 76 thats been double tracked and spotted for over 4 minutes

somber spoke Apr 3, 2024, 1:45 AM

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will leclerc ever get spall liners? I remember seeing a dev blog postponing them, what happened?

agile ice Apr 3, 2024, 2:01 AM

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irrc they didn't have anything solid to say the leclercs had spall liners and because of leaked stuff they need to be careful about how the source it

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To be fair though there are many more problems with the accuracy of the leclercs armour than spall liners

swift nacelle Apr 3, 2024, 6:45 AM

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grand void Just test drove it and small quick 90mm HEAT slinger seems fun

I have a love-hate relationship with it...
It is quite fast with a lot of pen

swift nacelle Apr 3, 2024, 6:45 AM

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grand void I guess that doesn't matter it probably fires the same french HEATFS as every ot...

You have to learn where to aim

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But other than that it is great

weary furnace Apr 3, 2024, 1:30 PM

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Mirage F1 MF2000, can carry MICA's, has the same radar as the Mirage 2000-5, and can carry the Damocles targeting pod

mf2000_lebourget.jpg.dbfc24cffa198353fe3d092b5fad4c78.jpg

so-weve-had-mirage-f1-but-what-about-mirage-f1-with-mig-29-v0-oj0fj105lsjc1.png

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MICA IR and EM, also can carry 9M's and HMD

agile ice Apr 4, 2024, 12:24 AM

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Top tier strike fighter come on plz

fallow granite Apr 4, 2024, 2:51 AM

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That plane doesn't fill any needs though.

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A worse m2k5f

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Doesn't fill a BR gap either

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Would be a higher BR than the normal F1Cs

weary furnace Apr 4, 2024, 3:03 AM

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It can fill the F1CT line

agile ice Apr 4, 2024, 3:31 AM

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Needs not particularly but the 9L/M would make it unique in the tree with those and the only other jet to get the Damocles pod beside the 5F plus with the AASM it would certainly fill the fire and forget air to ground that every other nation (I don't think any others are missing this) but France has

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(Yes there is the PGMs but they're TV guided so can't be used at night plus the other TV jank)

weary furnace Apr 4, 2024, 3:37 AM

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fallow granite That plane doesn't fill any needs though.

Does filling a need the only reason a plane gets added though?

dusky wharf Apr 4, 2024, 9:01 AM

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weary furnace Does filling a need the only reason a plane gets added though?

At this point yes

weary furnace Apr 4, 2024, 9:25 AM

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Why?

dusky wharf Apr 4, 2024, 9:31 AM

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All people want is gaps filled currently

swift nacelle Apr 6, 2024, 4:03 AM

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anyone down for a game?

weary furnace Apr 6, 2024, 5:19 AM

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swift nacelle anyone down for a game?

What br

swift nacelle Apr 6, 2024, 6:20 AM

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8.0 or below

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like 8.3 max cuz I only have one 8.0 tank

weary furnace Apr 6, 2024, 6:27 AM

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Sorry man I'm grinding air

swift nacelle Apr 6, 2024, 6:33 AM

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aight

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all goods

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i should be too but I despise air

weary furnace Apr 6, 2024, 6:42 AM

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Got into it because the grind is so much faster lol

swift nacelle Apr 6, 2024, 6:45 AM

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So slow for me lmao

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I hate air

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I sucked at aiming guns at the start

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and i've never liked it ever since

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Apart from in VB .10-02

cunning sparrow Apr 6, 2024, 10:45 PM

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I like the air.

swift nacelle Apr 7, 2024, 5:10 AM

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I despise

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it

cunning sparrow Apr 7, 2024, 2:26 PM

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My only complaint with air is when it enters GRB. I almost feel like aircraft should he adjusted for GRB for balance reasons at low BRs. Its weird seeing corsairs with 1939-1941 tanks just based on capabilities.

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Not complaining about CAS, i enjoy it. But… 4.0 seeing corsairs and mustangs is a little rough

cinder geyser Apr 7, 2024, 4:29 PM

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Wait until he learns corsairs were flying in 1940

cunning sparrow Apr 7, 2024, 6:00 PM

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Weren’t they purely prototypes? Also, to my knowledge, corsairs, hellcats, mustangs didn’t comr about until we found, fixed, and tested a Zero that we found crashed in Alaska

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For that i thought corsairs didn’t enter service until 42-43. But i could be wrong. If that’s when they entered service i retract my complaint

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We were both right. First test flight in 1940, entered service in 42, served until 79 in honduras

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Again. Not complaining. Just think there might be some balance quirks

cinder geyser Apr 7, 2024, 7:15 PM

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cunning sparrow Weren’t they purely prototypes? Also, to my knowledge, corsairs, hellcats, musta...

The zero had nothing to do with any of those designs

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And Corsair service entry isn't really relevant in the sense that their introduction was delayed 6+ months just because pilots had difficulties landing them, the initial variants were already in heavy production

cunning sparrow Apr 7, 2024, 7:28 PM

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Huh. I coulda sworn it was. Or did it give us insights to form better tactics? I know it helped us somehow

cinder geyser Apr 7, 2024, 8:01 PM

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Tactics yes

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Wildcat and Hellcat pilots especially benefited from the evaluation flights

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And iirc there was briefly a concept for designing another new fighter that was more similar to the zero but it didn't even reach blueprint stage

cunning sparrow Apr 7, 2024, 11:23 PM

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Aha! See i thought it influenced our designs. Didn’t consider it informed how to fight it

agile ice Apr 7, 2024, 11:32 PM

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swift nacelle Apr 8, 2024, 7:54 AM

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I love the AMX 30 dca

weary furnace Apr 8, 2024, 10:51 AM

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One of the best things the French ever thought of is the 20mm for coaxial

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God I love it

dusky wharf Apr 8, 2024, 10:53 AM

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weary furnace One of the best things the French ever thought of is the 20mm for coaxial

Shame it's just HVAP

boreal echo Apr 8, 2024, 11:00 AM

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still nice for ripping off tracks and killing light tanks

obtuse zealot Apr 8, 2024, 6:23 PM

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cinder geyser Eh it's really not a scary gun

gun doesn't matter when your shell is always 320 pen

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the only thing that matters is if you can aim well and if the shell actually pens instead of hitting armor and doing jack shit (major heat issue)

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also gunner targeting with ELC is something u need to do

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I've played it and had some pretty damn good games

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It's a small tank that's really fast with a gun that doesn't really care about armor.

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If your able to get the jump on people which you more than likely will if you know how to play the tank properly its pretty solid

obtuse zealot Apr 8, 2024, 6:27 PM

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weary furnace One of the best things the French ever thought of is the 20mm for coaxial

yep, 15mm too.

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It's so useful on the foch.

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kinda crap if you don't bind it

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if you do tho it's great.

swift nacelle Apr 8, 2024, 6:50 PM

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weary furnace God I love it

Sameeee..... That 20mm is so useful to break cannon barrels (albeit takes a while so don't rely on that) and just killing or damaging less well protected components

cinder geyser Apr 8, 2024, 6:53 PM

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obtuse zealot gun doesn't matter when your shell is always 320 pen

clueless

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Brings up a message from a week ago to go 'No, it's not that!! It's (exactly what I was referring to)!!'

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HasO

obtuse zealot Apr 8, 2024, 6:55 PM

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I got bored in class

weary furnace Apr 9, 2024, 4:14 AM

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First ace in the 5f

weary furnace Apr 9, 2024, 4:55 AM

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surprisingly bearable stock grind

agile ice Apr 9, 2024, 5:10 AM

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Yeah stock magic 2's makes it nice

cunning sparrow Apr 9, 2024, 5:31 AM

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I love the magics. Wish their range was better though. But that’s the downside

swift nacelle Apr 9, 2024, 6:54 AM

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obtuse zealot the only thing that matters is if you can aim well and if the shell actually pen...

I love when the copper stream disappears randomly

cunning sparrow Apr 10, 2024, 1:00 PM

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I was quite happy with myself last night. Got 2 kills in the amx-30 1972, jumped into the french F-84 with tims. And every tim launch was a kill until a M163 got me. First time i’ve done that!

swift nacelle Apr 11, 2024, 4:46 AM

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cunning sparrow I was quite happy with myself last night. Got 2 kills in the amx-30 1972, jumped...

dayum

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best match with amx 30 ive had was a 6 kill game

weary furnace Apr 11, 2024, 5:59 AM

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Is AMX-30DCA viable for 9.3?

swift nacelle Apr 11, 2024, 7:53 AM

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I do not own any 9.3 vehicles

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But I would say no....

agile ice Apr 11, 2024, 8:09 AM

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I dropped a nuke with it at 11.7 once it's perfectly viable until about 9.3 as an spaa and then until about 10.3 as a light tank

swift nacelle Apr 11, 2024, 8:14 AM

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dayum

agile ice Apr 11, 2024, 8:23 AM

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The rate of fire and pen make it great against the side of mbts and even through the front of the lighter ones and light tanks

weary furnace Apr 11, 2024, 9:39 AM

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agile ice I dropped a nuke with it at 11.7 once it's perfectly viable until about 9.3 as a...

I was thinking of running it alongside the SANTAL AA because the SANTAL does not have any ways to defend itself against tanks

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But has better AA capabilities

dusky wharf Apr 11, 2024, 9:41 AM

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France is one of those nations still missing a Gun/MANPAD system ; )

weary furnace Apr 11, 2024, 9:42 AM

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Gaijin please 🥺

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I need the LePard

swift nacelle Apr 12, 2024, 5:16 AM

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dusky wharf France is one of those nations still missing a Gun/MANPAD system ; )

What is a gun/manpad system

dusky wharf Apr 12, 2024, 6:49 AM

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swift nacelle What is a gun/manpad system

What that Gepard is

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Has guns (In this case 35mm Orelikons)

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And MANPADS (FIM-92, Mistral SATCAP, Strela, Igal)

swift nacelle Apr 12, 2024, 6:51 AM

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ohhhhhh

dusky wharf Apr 12, 2024, 6:53 AM

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However that Gepard turret on the Leclerc is an A1

swift nacelle Apr 12, 2024, 7:51 AM

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ohhhhh

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I was wondering why it had no missiles

dusky wharf Apr 12, 2024, 7:59 AM

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swift nacelle I was wondering why it had no missiles

Gepard 1A2 in game shouldn't even have FIM-92K

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Well it shouldn't be called 1A2

swift nacelle Apr 12, 2024, 8:04 AM

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Why?

dusky wharf Apr 12, 2024, 8:18 AM

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swift nacelle Why?

Because it was a Gepard A1 (FIM-92) that was a prototype venture

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Only ones who actually put Stinger on a Gepard for actual use was the Netherlands when they were going to export Cheetah SPAAG with FIM-92 to Jordan

swift nacelle Apr 13, 2024, 1:55 AM

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Bro as soon as I get the amx 30 dca it's going up in br

cunning sparrow Apr 13, 2024, 2:10 AM

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I’m starting ti love the AMx-30 DCA

swift nacelle Apr 13, 2024, 2:15 AM

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I love it

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but Its going up to 8.7

agile ice Apr 13, 2024, 3:26 AM

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I mean to be fair to it the thing is good and it’s French of course it’s going up in br no good French stuff allowed

swift nacelle Apr 13, 2024, 4:11 AM

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true...

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Gotta play the ARL 44 again

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I loved that thing

cunning sparrow Apr 13, 2024, 4:16 AM

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I hate that the french can’t have anything nice

swift nacelle Apr 13, 2024, 4:21 AM

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Ik bro

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Why amx 13 dca 40 have to go up

cunning sparrow Apr 13, 2024, 4:22 AM

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Cause the good players make it “good”

swift nacelle Apr 13, 2024, 4:22 AM

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Yo apparently I'm "good" now!!

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I singlehandedly save every french vehicle from going to 11.7 (I lowered all the stats down)

cinder geyser Apr 13, 2024, 4:41 AM

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A halfway competent DCA-40 player is better than 90% of M19/42 players in my experience

cunning sparrow Apr 13, 2024, 7:07 AM

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not wrong. And it's scary when you do go to something like the wirblewind or something with high fire rate. it surprises the hell out of CAS players when you're accuate

swift nacelle Apr 13, 2024, 8:41 PM

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cinder geyser A halfway competent DCA-40 player is better than 90% of M19/42 players in my exp...

Bro the amx 13 dca 40 does reasonably well at 8.0

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On city maps as 2nd or third spawn I got 3 kill average with it

swift nacelle Apr 13, 2024, 8:41 PM

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cinder geyser A halfway competent DCA-40 player is better than 90% of M19/42 players in my exp...

At 4.3 I used to get 8-14 kill games consistently

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Paired with the amx 13 fl11 and the f6f5 the lineup was an absolute monster

cinder geyser Apr 13, 2024, 8:54 PM

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FL-11 is shite

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Zero advantage over a Chaffee

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Couldn't pay me to play it

boreal echo Apr 13, 2024, 9:27 PM

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false

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i bring it all the way up to 5.0

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its so fast

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it makes up for the shit gun handling

cinder geyser Apr 13, 2024, 9:47 PM

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Its 5kmh faster than chaffee and less than 1/3 of the reverse speed

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its shit

inner forum Apr 14, 2024, 12:10 AM

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swift nacelle Paired with the amx 13 fl11 and the f6f5 the lineup was an absolute monster

Been running it paired with the Premium Yak 3 from WB store as enemy plane control.
The FL11 has grown on me, once I got used to the gun handling I enjoyed it.

agile ice Apr 14, 2024, 12:50 AM

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FL11 is great, the Chaffee is better but I bring the Chaffee to 5.0 so it’s not like being worse than the Chaffee is horrible just the Chaffee is very good

cinder geyser Apr 14, 2024, 1:31 AM

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With the 30DCA going up I am once again mentioning the 13DCA

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Problem being that while it would be slower and easier to kill, it's turret traverse is much higher

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I say put it at 8.0 with no APDS, or even 7.7 with it's RoF regulated

weary furnace Apr 14, 2024, 3:27 AM

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cinder geyser

Guessing it can't mount a radar

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Would be nice if foldered

cinder geyser Apr 14, 2024, 3:42 AM

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It's the same turret as the DCA-30

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Same radar

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Didn't choose the best pic

weary furnace Apr 14, 2024, 5:25 AM

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cinder geyser It's the same turret as the DCA-30

Doesn't have APDS?

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If it has APDS I can see it being a little rat

cinder geyser Apr 14, 2024, 12:08 PM

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I'd not include it personally

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If you do it's automatic 8.3

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And why bother then

boreal echo Apr 14, 2024, 1:06 PM

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cinder geyser Its 5kmh faster than chaffee and less than 1/3 of the reverse speed

the acceleration is way better

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very noticeable difference in acceleration

weary furnace Apr 14, 2024, 2:22 PM

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cinder geyser And why bother then

Because it's a smaller profile with better traverse, being easier to kill doesn't really matter anyways since the regular DCA is also easy to kill

cinder geyser Apr 14, 2024, 3:11 PM

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weary furnace Because it's a smaller profile with better traverse, being easier to kill doesn'...

And being smaller with better traverse will keep the BR the same as the 30, if not higher

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And we need something before it, not after

cinder geyser Apr 14, 2024, 3:11 PM

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boreal echo very noticeable difference in acceleration

Which is great for the solid 5 maps that makes any genuine difference on

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"I can get a less effective vehicle in position faster" essentially

boreal echo Apr 14, 2024, 3:12 PM

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you can get the same potent gun into position faster

cinder geyser Apr 14, 2024, 3:15 PM

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It's really not potent a BR higher and is no longer stabilized

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Again, less effective

cunning sparrow Apr 14, 2024, 3:54 PM

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I kinda agree on that. A lot of the guns at 8.3 are becoming stabilized and france just isn’t.

agile ice Apr 15, 2024, 1:07 AM

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They make up for it in other ways (The 30B2s having thermals and a good pen dart at 8.7 is kinda mental) it just forces you into a certain play style because you can't push corners quickly or shoot on the more

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It can certainly be annoying though it's just hard for some of that stuff to go down any lower because of the other advantages

cunning sparrow Apr 15, 2024, 1:11 AM

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I know. It’s just a little rough when i’m always facing full up-tiers nowadays and facing dart throwing full stabilized guns

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I think i’ve had… 2 non full uptiers lately

agile ice Apr 15, 2024, 1:17 AM

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From which br? I used to play 8.7 to abuse the downtiers because they felt almost constant although I haven't played that br in maybe a month so it may have changed though I don't see why

cunning sparrow Apr 15, 2024, 2:09 AM

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8.3. I have a near full france 8.3 lineup. Amx-30 1972. Amx 50 surbaisse. Amx-30 dca, amx-30 acra, F-84G, the 7.7 heli, amx 13-90

agile ice Apr 15, 2024, 2:13 AM

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Yeah I'd go for the B2's, they still aren't stabilised but with the dart rounds they're great for sniping and could replace your amx 50 and 13-90 or 30 1972

cinder geyser Apr 15, 2024, 2:27 AM

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At least replace 13-90 for a Mars / 13 HOT imo

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I wanna see this still too

cunning sparrow Apr 15, 2024, 2:28 AM

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That’s literally my highest lineup. I have nothing better

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I do have better french planes but no ground pounder better, yet

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When i get the boragon that will change

cinder geyser Apr 15, 2024, 2:29 AM

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Same guns as Ontos, but probably slightly easier to aim

cunning sparrow Apr 15, 2024, 2:30 AM

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I’d love the MARS but i don’t have it yet

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Getting stuck in full uptiers against fully stabilized dart throwers… even facing XM-1 Chryslers lately… dam composite armor… makes advancing slow given most my tanks are now HEAT throwers

agile ice Apr 15, 2024, 3:22 AM

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Might be best to go back to 7.7/8.0 until you have more 8.3/8.7 stuff then instead of uptiering so much stuff

cinder geyser Apr 15, 2024, 3:26 AM

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Especially bringing up the 13-90 and F-84

cunning sparrow Apr 15, 2024, 3:44 AM

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honestly i do well in both but yeah. i probably should i still do well ish. first time facing XM-1s the other night and it was... infurating

cinder geyser Apr 15, 2024, 4:06 AM

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If you're close in the XM-1 really shouldn't be an issue for a few of your lineup

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Ofc, the ones that can pen it up close are also the size of a cow barn so

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ACRA can lolpen it though

weary furnace Apr 15, 2024, 10:24 AM

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cunning sparrow When i get the boragon that will change

Why are you getting the Barougan

cunning sparrow Apr 15, 2024, 12:21 PM

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Snebs

weary furnace Apr 15, 2024, 12:23 PM

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Ah

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I thought they both had no difference

grand void Apr 15, 2024, 2:45 PM

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do i really need to research all lines in the french air tree?

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up to jets

boreal echo Apr 15, 2024, 4:30 PM

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Mhm

cunning sparrow Apr 15, 2024, 6:09 PM

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I am

weary furnace Apr 17, 2024, 3:40 AM

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My first ever nuke, and it's in a AMX-32 in a very rare full 9.3 downtier

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Abused the hell out of my ESS because most enemies don't have thermals

cinder geyser Apr 17, 2024, 10:04 PM

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P-63C advice?

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Ive only flown it twice and hated it both times but ive played a fair amount of P39Q so I want to come back to it and at least finish the first 2 tiers of mods for the bonuses

boreal echo Apr 17, 2024, 11:25 PM

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abuse your flight preformance

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its actually so unfair

cinder geyser Apr 17, 2024, 11:27 PM

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It flies like a P-39 with weights in the wings

cunning sparrow Apr 18, 2024, 12:36 AM

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But when upgraded it almost feels under tiers

boreal echo Apr 18, 2024, 10:19 AM

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It's way under tiered

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I have a 78% winrate for a reason

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And I'm not the best at the game

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You out engine pretty much everything

wary violet Apr 18, 2024, 10:32 AM

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the p63 c5 is a decent 4.0 plane

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shouldnt be any higher

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and the 78% wr is because the teams are good

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not the plane

cinder geyser Apr 21, 2024, 4:04 AM

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Saw an AUF1 player earlier that scared me

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Was dropping in rounds at 800+ meters like nothing

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Got 7 before he died to a tiger 105

cunning sparrow Apr 21, 2024, 6:44 AM

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dam. that is nuts. but that also measn very practiced

weary furnace Apr 21, 2024, 8:03 AM

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Damn tiger II 105 that's rare

calm goblet Apr 21, 2024, 8:48 AM

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cinder geyser Apr 21, 2024, 11:38 AM

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weary furnace Damn tiger II 105 that's rare

There were 3 in a squad 😭

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Full length match, for a tie lmao

cunning sparrow Apr 21, 2024, 2:14 PM

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Dude i know!!! I wish i was close enough to grind it out before it was removed!

cunning sparrow Apr 22, 2024, 12:40 AM

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You know…. I kinda wish the oragons/boragons wouldn’t face F-86s. They’re supposed to be maneuverable but the sabre makes em look stupid by comparison

agile ice Apr 22, 2024, 12:53 AM

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Just wait until the sabres are all a lower br

cinder geyser Apr 22, 2024, 12:54 AM

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cunning sparrow You know…. I kinda wish the oragons/boragons wouldn’t face F-86s. They’re suppos...

Ouragan is ass anyways

boreal echo Apr 22, 2024, 1:08 AM

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The guns are mega shit

cinder geyser Apr 22, 2024, 1:12 AM

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Genuinely awful

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Rounds are mid at BEST and they fire way too fast

boreal echo Apr 22, 2024, 1:16 AM

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They just don't kill

cunning sparrow Apr 22, 2024, 1:16 AM

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Maybe. But it’s the highest BR fighter i have so it’s what i have to work with

boreal echo Apr 22, 2024, 1:16 AM

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I would take 50 cals

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Over those

cunning sparrow Apr 22, 2024, 1:17 AM

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I’m close to the jet above it. Not quite there yet, but close

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Boragon is unlocked. The folder below it

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I could use the F1C-200 to quickly research but that’s kinda meh too

cinder geyser Apr 22, 2024, 1:28 AM

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Barougan is just an Ouragan with a different landing gear

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The 452 has the same guns anyway

weary furnace Apr 22, 2024, 1:29 AM

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DEFA's are definitely one of the cannons of all time

cinder geyser Apr 22, 2024, 1:29 AM

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Oh these arent even DEFA

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These are M50

weary furnace Apr 22, 2024, 1:30 AM

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Oh

weary furnace Apr 22, 2024, 1:30 AM

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cinder geyser These are M50

Better or worse

cinder geyser Apr 22, 2024, 1:33 AM

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Haven't played Defa

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But an M50 is basically stock hispano rounds with higher RoF and no ammo count 😭

weary furnace Apr 22, 2024, 1:33 AM

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cinder geyser Haven't played Defa

You play one plane with DEFA's you basically play them all, only tweak between all versions is the fire rate

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You will hate them more as the br of the planes increase because of the low velocity

cinder geyser Apr 22, 2024, 1:35 AM

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I can deal with velocity problems if they actually do damage

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M50s don't

weary furnace Apr 22, 2024, 1:37 AM

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I'm glad I just bombed in the F-84F to grind that rank tbh

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M50s sound bad

cinder geyser Apr 22, 2024, 1:41 AM

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From what little bit I can find online the M50 is basically a Hispano V but with a decently increased RoF

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Which, you would think that isn't the worst thing in the world but then you only get 125rpg

timber harness Apr 22, 2024, 1:54 AM

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the amx 30 is shockingly good at tanking all forms of chemical or sub caliber (no atgms though) munitions

swift nacelle Apr 22, 2024, 1:59 AM

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timber harness the amx 30 is shockingly good at tanking all forms of chemical or sub caliber (n...

It actually is tho

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AMX 30 can tank heat so easily

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and almost any 30mm apds rounds

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from 40mm and lower

cunning sparrow Apr 22, 2024, 2:15 AM

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Dude i got accused of hacking because i tanked a T-62’s APFSDS to the fuel tank in my AMX-30 1972

swift nacelle Apr 22, 2024, 2:16 AM

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Ain't no way they accuse people of hacking due to that

cunning sparrow Apr 22, 2024, 2:16 AM

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Yeah. Dumbass messaged me afterwords calling me a hacker

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Probs just butthurt he didn’t 1 shot me and i killed him

swift nacelle Apr 22, 2024, 2:17 AM

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My heat shells bounced off at a 30 degree angle on this T-55 and I get accused of hacking (idk how they made the correllation between HEAT shell bouncing off of THEM and me hacking)

swift nacelle Apr 22, 2024, 2:17 AM

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cunning sparrow Probs just butthurt he didn’t 1 shot me and i killed him

Prolly is

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They probably not used to losing confrontations

cunning sparrow Apr 22, 2024, 2:18 AM

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Idky russian mains think your hacking just for not dying in 1 shot

swift nacelle Apr 22, 2024, 2:18 AM

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Used to their potent aphe that they aren't used to having to aim

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https://tenor.com/view/trinity-bomb-nuclear-weapon-oppenheimer-los-alamos-atom-bomb-gif-16272589027919557028

Tenor

cunning sparrow Apr 22, 2024, 2:19 AM

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Now if i see someone’s shell go through boulders or 30 meters of dense brush when they clearly shouldn’t be able to see or hit me… i go back and review

swift nacelle Apr 22, 2024, 2:19 AM

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Average Russian aphe

swift nacelle Apr 22, 2024, 2:20 AM

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cunning sparrow Now if i see someone’s shell go through boulders or 30 meters of dense brush whe...

I stopped doing that

cunning sparrow Apr 22, 2024, 2:20 AM

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I don’t unless it’s very questionable

swift nacelle Apr 22, 2024, 2:20 AM

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Some people are good at the game and have good instincts, some are cheaters, and sometimes it is just Gaijin's fault

cunning sparrow Apr 22, 2024, 2:20 AM

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But usually i take the loss

swift nacelle Apr 22, 2024, 2:20 AM

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Saje

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same*

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Makes me madder if I go to review the shot so I just leave it to "Gaijin moments"

cunning sparrow Apr 22, 2024, 2:20 AM

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Oh i’ve been Gaijinned often. But when someone’s good, its frustrating, but you can tell

swift nacelle Apr 22, 2024, 2:21 AM

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Yeah

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I've seen players with accurate aimbot

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and like you can see that they have it

cunning sparrow Apr 22, 2024, 2:21 AM

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It’s pretty clear when it’s an aimbot

swift nacelle Apr 22, 2024, 2:22 AM

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I was hiding behind a hill (In my aml 90 so not too loud engine), I moved back to get even more cover and the T-34 85 instantly turned his turret towards my exact position

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idk why he was using the 85 at 7.7 but ehh

cunning sparrow Apr 22, 2024, 2:22 AM

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I’ve had that. But sometimes its settings. Many people turn down friendly sounds but up enemy sounds

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Or they remove bushes and brush, crap like that

swift nacelle Apr 22, 2024, 2:23 AM

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But no way he could have heard me at over 300m away

cunning sparrow Apr 22, 2024, 2:23 AM

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🤷‍♂️

swift nacelle Apr 22, 2024, 2:23 AM

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cunning sparrow Or they remove bushes and brush, crap like that

I was behind cover but part of my roof could have been protruding

cunning sparrow Apr 22, 2024, 2:24 AM

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That coulda been. Or your cupola

swift nacelle Apr 22, 2024, 2:24 AM

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True

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prolly machine gun

cunning sparrow Apr 22, 2024, 2:24 AM

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I’ve killed peeps by cupola shots like that

swift nacelle Apr 22, 2024, 2:24 AM

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it is so high up

cunning sparrow Apr 22, 2024, 2:25 AM

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Or your antenna

weary furnace Apr 22, 2024, 2:34 AM

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cunning sparrow Dude i got accused of hacking because i tanked a T-62’s APFSDS to the fuel tank ...

When the T-72's commonly tank my OFL 105 G1 to the fuel tank beside the driver

cunning sparrow Apr 22, 2024, 2:35 AM

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Right? I take it as bad aim.

swift nacelle Apr 22, 2024, 3:57 AM

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cunning sparrow Or your antenna

true

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Hmmm I love how my m61 shot bounced off an is2 cupola (20 metres away)

grand void Apr 22, 2024, 5:03 PM

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cunning sparrow Dude i got accused of hacking because i tanked a T-62’s APFSDS to the fuel tank ...

NATO fuel tanks being better lol

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best tank honestly

dusky wharf Apr 22, 2024, 5:14 PM

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The 1963 is underrated

cunning sparrow Apr 22, 2024, 5:58 PM

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It is

cinder geyser Apr 22, 2024, 6:52 PM

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how tf do you all use F84G

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Thing flies like a moist brick

cinder geyser Apr 22, 2024, 8:01 PM

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nvm getting wings repair makes it feel completely different lmao

swift nacelle Apr 22, 2024, 8:47 PM

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grand void best tank honestly

I want that ebr so badly

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And the 54 as well

grand void Apr 22, 2024, 8:48 PM

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swift nacelle I want that ebr so badly

want the 54 but i mean the 63 is just really nice

swift nacelle Apr 22, 2024, 9:32 PM

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I don't really like the 90mm heat

cunning sparrow Apr 22, 2024, 9:59 PM

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cinder geyser nvm getting wings repair makes it feel completely different lmao

It’s crazy isn’t it?! Fix the wings and it suddenly flies like not a brick

cinder geyser Apr 22, 2024, 10:45 PM

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Already had every other performance mod and it felt no better than stock

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felt really odd

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I still dislike it but its at least not painful now

cunning sparrow Apr 22, 2024, 11:55 PM

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I agree. And i can land tiny tims reliably on GRB targets with it. Killed a lot with those missiles. Really fun

cinder geyser Apr 23, 2024, 2:59 AM

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My one flight in GRB

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I did get a kill, but only cause I hit the TPK dead on

weary furnace Apr 23, 2024, 3:03 AM

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cinder geyser how tf do you all use F84G

Boom and zoom

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I played it a ton

cinder geyser Apr 23, 2024, 3:03 AM

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I had been but without wings repair I'd go back and forth between stall and compressed 😭

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I was having to just hunt 29s every game lol

weary furnace Apr 23, 2024, 3:05 AM

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cinder geyser I was having to just hunt 29s every game lol

Yeah it's basically just hunt down bombers if there's any and pounce on unsuspecting 262's that can not chase you

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And avoid the La-200's

cinder geyser Apr 23, 2024, 3:06 AM

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And run like hell if you see an F2H

weary furnace Apr 23, 2024, 3:06 AM

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cinder geyser And run like hell if you see an F2H

You're still a little faster than those

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Just be more careful

cinder geyser Apr 23, 2024, 3:06 AM

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Yes but they accelerate a lot better

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But hey, at least they aren't Meteors

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Meteors are nice snacks

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Wait no I mean Vampires

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Vampires are easy

grand void Apr 25, 2024, 12:04 AM

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dusky wharf The 1963 is underrated

it's my favourite tank rn

swift nacelle Apr 25, 2024, 7:39 AM

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AMX 50 foch is my favourite tank now

cinder geyser Apr 25, 2024, 4:22 PM

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unlocked the AUF1 last night but

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eh

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probably wont even buy it

cunning sparrow Apr 25, 2024, 5:15 PM

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It’s not bad really! I’ve gotten quite a few kills with it. But you have to be aware of how HUGE your forehead is and how some tanks are immune to your HE like the IS-…6? One of them virtually immune

swift nacelle Apr 25, 2024, 9:39 PM

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haha

swift nacelle Apr 25, 2024, 9:39 PM

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cinder geyser probably wont even buy it

Uhhmmmmm

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takes a while to get used to

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Massive forehead

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you will be shot there often

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but last night I got a 4 kill game with it (best game I've had with it)

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I have 107 deaths and 33 kills only tho

cinder geyser Apr 25, 2024, 9:43 PM

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aint at all worth it to me

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the reload means nothing when your shots are so much less impactful and most enemies are faster

cunning sparrow Apr 25, 2024, 10:00 PM

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Honestly most tanks die to it once you have the upgraded rounds. Just beware the russian heavies

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Per usual

cinder geyser Apr 25, 2024, 10:06 PM

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cunning sparrow Honestly most tanks die to it once you have the upgraded rounds. Just beware the...

dont really get how you figure that when the "upgrade" is just a proxy

cunning sparrow Apr 25, 2024, 10:07 PM

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Don’t they have a higher HE equiv shell? Or am i thinking of another tank? I have killed tanks with proxy btw

cinder geyser Apr 25, 2024, 10:19 PM

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im well aware you can kill with proxy but its definitely more difficult

swift nacelle Apr 25, 2024, 10:26 PM

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the proxy fuses at 300m

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below that it is more useful

swift nacelle Apr 25, 2024, 10:27 PM

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cunning sparrow Don’t they have a higher HE equiv shell? Or am i thinking of another tank? I ha...

ur thinking of typ3 99

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type*

swift nacelle Apr 25, 2024, 10:27 PM

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cinder geyser the reload means nothing when your shots are so much less impactful and most ene...

trye

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but the amx 30 is mobile

cunning sparrow Apr 25, 2024, 10:37 PM

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Ah

swift nacelle Apr 25, 2024, 11:55 PM

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yep

weary furnace Apr 28, 2024, 1:55 AM

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Rejoice bois, Leclerc squadron vehicle leaked

agile ice Apr 28, 2024, 3:07 AM

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That's not reason to rejoice it's just more top tier stuff for people to buy and suck at

swift nacelle Apr 28, 2024, 6:56 AM

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Lets actually fucking go

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popping the caviar the instant it drops

coral tusk Apr 28, 2024, 10:43 AM

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It's not quite the top tier premium I was hoping for but fuck it time to spread baguette

swift nacelle Apr 28, 2024, 7:18 PM

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frfr

boreal echo Apr 28, 2024, 7:42 PM

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weary furnace Rejoice bois, Leclerc squadron vehicle leaked

the list is unfortunately likely fake

swift nacelle Apr 29, 2024, 8:20 AM

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Bro they need to nerf the STRV 103

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that thing bounces all my heat shells

boreal echo Apr 29, 2024, 9:52 AM

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Consider

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Shooting the transmission

cinder geyser Apr 29, 2024, 1:11 PM

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So you're telling me

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The tank does what it was designed to do

grand void Apr 29, 2024, 3:26 PM

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grand void Apr 29, 2024, 3:28 PM

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cinder geyser The tank does what it was designed to do

179 deg plate bounces everything (wait till germany hears about this one)

swift nacelle Apr 29, 2024, 6:50 PM

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boreal echo Shooting the transmission

ohhhh true

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I gotta wait after he gets out of his little ditch

swift nacelle Apr 29, 2024, 6:51 PM

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cinder geyser The tank does what it was designed to do

Sadly

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I am

grand void Apr 30, 2024, 12:36 AM

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french reconnaissance vehicles are goated

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amx 10RC and EBR my beloved

boreal echo Apr 30, 2024, 12:56 AM

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fr

cunning sparrow Apr 30, 2024, 4:12 AM

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Almost at the light tank after the amx 13-90. That should be fun

grand void Apr 30, 2024, 12:09 PM

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the mars

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it's aight

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I don't particularly like it compared to the amx 10rc

cunning sparrow Apr 30, 2024, 2:04 PM

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Should still be an upgrade given i think it gets a dart

agile ice Apr 30, 2024, 3:30 PM

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Yeah but not a great dart and it's a smaller gun I too irrc, plus it dies if something breaths on it

cinder geyser Apr 30, 2024, 4:24 PM

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agile ice Yeah but not a great dart and it's a smaller gun I too irrc, plus it dies if som...

Nope. It's an improved version of the same gun on the 13-90.

grand void Apr 30, 2024, 5:10 PM

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agile ice Yeah but not a great dart and it's a smaller gun I too irrc, plus it dies if som...

Frances 105 is really good imo

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amx 10 has a 105

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with apfsds

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the mars has an improved CN90

grand void Apr 30, 2024, 5:17 PM

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cunning sparrow Should still be an upgrade given i think it gets a dart

yea

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imma be honest i just checked didnt realize this was abt the mars and amx 13

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both of which i dont really care for

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theyre cool just not my style

agile ice Apr 30, 2024, 11:04 PM

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cinder geyser Nope. It's an improved version of the same gun on the 13-90.

I meant it's the 90 compared to the 105 on say the amx-30

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For its br it's a smaller gun compared to the 105 which is standard around there

cinder geyser Apr 30, 2024, 11:10 PM

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Is it not a light tank?

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We could also have the Mars 105, sure, but that would have the OF 105F1 round and likely be 9.0

agile ice Apr 30, 2024, 11:42 PM

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Probably 8.7 given that's where the amx-30 sits with the same round and whilst I would like it there's other options already

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But the mars is fine, I like the reload speed and the dart isn't as good as others but is still more than usable

cinder geyser Apr 30, 2024, 11:43 PM

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Superior reload and smaller size. And it's France so

agile ice Apr 30, 2024, 11:43 PM

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Right sorry it would be 12.0 then

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France

cinder geyser Apr 30, 2024, 11:44 PM

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I'm probably never gonna play the Mars just because it can be MGd from any angle and while I don't mind light armor that's too light

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But if the 105 or 25mm variants were available id be interested

agile ice Apr 30, 2024, 11:45 PM

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Yeah it's past the break point of super light where a mg can kill it way to easy

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Honestly just a light tank with a stab would be nice at this point

cinder geyser Apr 30, 2024, 11:47 PM

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An add-on package to make the front safe from 20mm was created

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And iirc it made the sides 20mm instead of the 14 or whatever it is

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On the upper hull anyways

agile ice Apr 30, 2024, 11:50 PM

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So it might be .50 proof from the front in game (given how gaijin treats those armour packages)

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Would be a nice addition though if it was higher than the current lights

cinder geyser May 1, 2024, 12:00 AM

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agile ice So it might be .50 proof from the front in game (given how gaijin treats those a...

Well the funny thing actually

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Is it was (reportedly) safe from 14.5 to the turret front and 12.7 to the hull front

agile ice May 1, 2024, 12:01 AM

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Oh of course

cinder geyser May 1, 2024, 12:04 AM

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Admittedly the hull is already kinda safe from a .50 just given its angle

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But the turret is definitely not safe from a 14.5

grand void May 1, 2024, 2:07 AM

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I want to see more leclercs I know we're getting a prem prototype one possibly soon

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also the ERC Lynx AMX-10P PAC 90

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and the EBRC Jaguar

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orthe AMX 10RCR

swift nacelle May 1, 2024, 8:40 AM

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Is the squadron leclerc confirmed?

weary furnace May 1, 2024, 10:58 AM

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swift nacelle Is the squadron leclerc confirmed?

Idk tbh

boreal echo May 1, 2024, 11:30 AM

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No

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The leaks so far are very likely fake

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I'm waiting for the leaks from olivia because they are usually on point

weary furnace May 1, 2024, 11:45 AM

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Who is olivia

boreal echo May 1, 2024, 11:54 AM

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Person that has the leak lists

dusky wharf May 1, 2024, 3:06 PM

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boreal echo I'm waiting for the leaks from olivia because they are usually on point

It was leaked about a year ago by Olivia

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However the squadron Leclerc is literally the AZUR we have in the TT

grand void May 1, 2024, 3:44 PM

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tragic

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I saw a image saying the Ares is coming as a pack vehicle

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well not saying but

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that we could see a leclerc pack vehicle

dusky wharf May 1, 2024, 3:45 PM

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Prem Leclerc proto or the Dutch M1A1

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🤷‍♂️

grand void May 1, 2024, 3:46 PM

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I kinda want to see UAE Leclerc as a squadron vehicle

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I mean I'm not like yearning to see UAE stuff in game just something they could do

dusky wharf May 1, 2024, 3:47 PM

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grand void I kinda want to see UAE Leclerc as a squadron vehicle

Shame it'd be a near exact replica of the AZUR

grand void May 1, 2024, 3:48 PM

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yea

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I still want to see more recon vehicles cause france does recon differently and they have some really cool armoured cars

cinder geyser May 1, 2024, 5:28 PM

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I just want a Panhard M3 VDA or the Venezuelan AMX-13 with 6 106mms

swift nacelle May 2, 2024, 5:03 AM

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i fr want that too

timber harness May 3, 2024, 12:41 AM

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an unimog with an atgm would be fun

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