giving advice for 5.3-7.7 Ground America

[late estuary]

I have lots of experience playing these BR brackets so if your struggling ask away

[velvet minnow]

whats 9 + 10?

[willow fractal]

I am not struggling, but I am slightly new. Just got the 75mm jumbo last night, what's an effective way to play this thing, and should I replace it with the 76mm once I get that?

[solid zinc]

Since the Jumbo has a subpar gun compared to most things around it you should always try to disable your opponent first by either taking their barrel or/and tracks and then flank them. Watch out for anything with a long 88 or the russian 122.

And the 75 Jumbo has a nice line-up at 5.7 with the Hellcat, M36's and 76 Shermans and CAS of your choosing. Where as the 76 mm Jumbo lost most of its line up with the M26s going up in BR.

[willow fractal]

Thanks

[solar mauve]

Watch out for Dicks Dicker Max and the Stuer Emil (the gun on that thing is scarry, it will pen you anywhere)

[willow fractal]

Yes, that and the Waffentrager

Those boys got big guns

[glacial tide]

In my world, the 75 Jumbo only comes out when its either a downtier or as a last resort. If theres any level of uptiering I feel like the armour (especially with the MG port) is barely gonna slow anyone down, and at 5.7 I feel like you get a ton more uptiers than downtiers.
The 36 is great, but you again need to be aware of uptier or downtier cus that basically determines whether you can/have to: go on a wide flank, stop the enemy frontally while your team flanks, use APHE or HEAT (which is such a narrow jet that it basically only kills the 1 crew its next to, or the 1 module for that matter, hopefully ammo).
But really I feel like the 76 Sherman is the workhorse, cus with Cruise Control you can move at the right pace to keep yourself 100% stabalized and then you can get close enough, with a fast enough tank, reload and turret traverse that you can beat out a ton of people in brawl by just not getting shot in the first place

[willow fractal]

Thank you

[leaden eagle]

How do I fuck around more effectively in my M18

[willow fractal]

Play it like the puma

Or like an M24

[glacial tide]

So funny I just made fun of the 75 jumbo, but this is also my first nuke ever, and it was in a 75 jumbo max uptier sooooo, it can be good if you happen to get an enemy team that forgets about a thing called "flanking"

[prisma folio]

My issue with America 5.3 ground is primarily me. Sometimes i hold back and get more tactical and sweep. Other times i get cocky from the now full 76 mm 90mm gun lineup and just die with a kill or two. Stabilized 76mm is nasty. Reccomended CAS? I’ve been doing quite well with the P-47-D-25/28. Can’t remember the exact thunderbolt but it’s the 5.0 one

[radiant pecan]

anyone know what a good lineup for 6.3 would be?

[prisma folio]

I’m around 5.7 right now myself. I think the Jumbo Sherman 76 is a staple. But i’m the wrong one. Just creeping up there

[dire glade]

Just got to 7.0 USA any advice on how to stock grind the m46 and the t92, (Given up on the tutel is supidly situational)

[solar mauve]

Be a goblin, they have good speed so use that to your advantage

[willow fractal]

^

[prisma folio]

The T92? Flank, know weak spots, use your small stature to hide, and be a sniping goblin

[surreal tusk]

Not much to say on the M46, it's such a middle of the road vehicle in all aspects, you can kind of play it however you'd prefer. As for the T92, you're small, fast, and reload fast. Hide behind rubble and just be a goblin like others have said. Both the sabot and heatfs are fine

[polar vigil]

hi

[wet tendon]

For 5.3 fighter cas run the f4u4, for 5.7 and above run the f4u4b

[wet tendon]

M41, t20, 76 jumbo, m36b2 and/or base m36, f4u4b, a1h/au1/ad4, m16

[prisma folio]

Don’t have them yet but i’m working on it. Why not the P-51H

[wet tendon]

Because it has way worse cas options, worse guns and it needs to stay fast.

You can super easily force overshoots with the corsair and then kill whatever just flew past you because the f the low speed power you have.

The p51 is dead at low speed.

[prisma folio]

Fair. I did see i have thr F4U-4 but not the B. How is the F5F-5N (cannon) cat at CAS? It gets tims and 1000s

[willow fractal]

Quite gud

[prisma folio]

Up to what Br? It is a 4.3

[wet tendon]

Very very mediocre compared to the f4u4

[wet tendon]

5.0 at most

Because the hellcat haemorrhages energy.

[prisma folio]

that's fair. i'm grinding to the F4U-4B now

[glacial tide]

M41A1 Bullie, Should I main the solid shot and bring sabot as a backup, is there a reason to bring APCR if I have the Sabot unlucked and and and... uhhhhhh no those are my questions

[wet tendon]

No, main the apds. Bring around 30-35 of that and 6-8 HE

No need to bring ap or apcr.

[willow fractal]

35

[wet tendon]

Yeah?

[prisma folio]

Yeah. APDS on the bulldog is pretty nasty

[wet tendon]

Plus it’s all stored in the hull, and of you get shot there you die in any case.

[glacial tide]

Is it good enough to actually ufp a panther? Cus the British sabot at 5-ish is good enough but only if your looking slightly down on Panthers

I guess I should just play it more but I actually kinda sorta hate 6.3

[wet tendon]

It is yes.

[pale ibex]

M41 apds is great

never had real issues with it

[wet tendon]

It’s one of the best spalling apds out there.

[pale ibex]

dont ask me how tho, literally a sub caliber 76mm round thats better than british apds with higher calibers

[wet tendon]

Pens angles really well, onehsots crew on panthers and tigers super regularly

[pale ibex]

go 6.7, great BR for murica

and M41 easily tanks it

[wet tendon]

You either hate 6.3 and love 6.7 or hate 6.7 but love 6.3

There is NO in between that I have seen.

[pale ibex]

real

same with 5.7

[radiant pecan]

for m109, do you want to bring the main he or the proxy rounds

[wet tendon]

main HE because proxy is fuckiy vs tanks, but like 7 proxy is a good number.

[willow fractal]

I like both hehe

[lament sand]

T26 with the better armor or the better gun?

[wet tendon]

I prefer the better armour.

[lament sand]

interesting, why not the better gun?

[pale ibex]

the 90mm already is very potent

i also very much prefer to have a slightly worse gun (it can still kill anything at that br, even the maus with APCR) but get the chance to shoot twice and being able to shrug off even 122mm and 128mm rounds

the super pershing is good for sniping but has terrible weak spots

• the T34 gets a gun thats just as good as the long 90mm of the super pershing but has better armour overall

the jumbo pershing is also still able to snipe and WAY better for close range fighting because its reload isnt 2h long

[wet tendon]

Pretty much for the reasons moro said.

I will always take a slightly worse gun/pen for a higher fire rate

Or damage.

Examples are for instance that I prefer the US 76 over the 17 pdr, or the russian 100 over the 122 or 152

[lament sand]

i see

thanks

[last maple]

Take both I guess, no need to chose then, Jumbo on close range maps and Super for longer ranges

Tho the T-34 ia better than both anyway, it actually gets some mobility

[wet tendon]

I 100% would take the t26e5 over the t34

[prisma folio]

Isn’t the T26E5 far more mobile?

[pale ibex]

meh

both drive like bricks

it just happens to not be the size of a barn

while still getting better armour

and a decent reload

[lament sand]

Working on it

[lament sand]

the T26E1-1 has more than 101mm of armor like the stat card says

the stat card is a lie

[solar mauve]

It's not the base armour though

[lament sand]

yeah. its like 101+38+38

[old hornet]

Careful of king tigers, and you still have the gun port weak spot which is 1 shot

[lament sand]

Yeah

But the E1-1 has more armor unlike what most people think

[pale ibex]

massive weak spots tho

turret cheeks are just off buttons

[pale ibex]

you can also hit here even when the turret is barely angled

itll get you pretty consistent pens

[old hornet]

The only reason I said careful of the Tiger II is that some days I go seal clubbing US mains and they always expose their Gunport

[pale ibex]

basically impossible not to

[old hornet]

Someone tried with bushes but that last one shot lmao

[pale ibex]

i barely ever get killed through the mg port

most times when i get penned from the front while angled its through the turret ring or that little edge on the roof where the armour gets raised a little

[lament sand]

I unlocked the T34

Idk how to feel about it

[pale ibex]

big ass heavy chonker with decent armour and a lol pen AP only gun

bad for brawling because reload speed but very good for longer distances

[lament sand]

Yash

[old hornet]

Where ar me the weak spots?

[lament sand]

What do you mean? If you mean weakspots, the ufp is one big weakspot as it's only 101mm armoг, angled though, + if you angle too everything is good

Lower plate though is just a weakspot without anything good going for it

One thing, never ever shoot the turret. Specially the mantlet

Its just too thick

[old hornet]

Thanks

[polar vigil]

What should I research next

[pale ibex]

T26E5

best tank at that BR

[lament sand]

T26E1-1 better

Despite what the stat card says it has about 177mm of armor, its angled too and you can even tank KT shells with it

Plus the better gun

[pale ibex]

not true imo

the jumbo pershing has WAY better armour overall, doesnt have the giant turret cheek issues and still a very potent gun that doesnt take decades to reload

yes, the long 90 has more pen, but with apcr the jumbo pershing also gets like 280mm pen and even with the aphe it struggles with barely anything

the worse armour and longer reload just aint worth it imo

[wet tendon]

Kth better than both

But yeah the t26e5 is better than the super pershing

[wet tendon]

Me when your turret:

[lament sand]

Oh well to each their own, i personally have a overall better time in the E1-1

[lament sand]

If you say that then on the E5 its not any better

[wet tendon]

???????????????????

what

[lament sand]

What

Besides the obvious vertical drive issue idk whats the difference

[wet tendon]

The diffrence is that the E5 has the best turret at the tier

[lament sand]

Okay, explain how is it better

I genuinely dont know

[wet tendon]

It is impenetrable to the kth in 95% of places

It has I think 300(?) mm of cast armour

[lament sand]

The T26????

[wet tendon]

T26E5

[lament sand]

How in the heck

It has that much

Even the T34 doesn't

Yeah no brother, youre spewing some nonsense, it has no 300mm of armor

The turret might be better on the E5, but the hull is better on the E1-1, still 300mm is nowhere to be seen

from my experience, the turret never been a problem, no one shoots me there, only the ufp

Which if angled, does wonders

[wet tendon]

Damn that is super fucking difficult

Imagine that, 300mm of cast armour

Almost like I said that

[lost hare]

me when pennable by 85mm

[lament sand]

Like i said, for me its not a problem

Generally ya the turret is better on the E5

I admit that

But the hull, no

[pale ibex]

how

when angled its basically impenetrable even for king tigers (with APHE) except for minor spots and the mg port, which you can often mostly cover by angling to the left

the T26E5 just has WAY better armour overall

and lets not forget that the turret is the way bigger issue anyways since its always gonna be exposed in some way

the E5 simply is more useful in a wider range of scenarios

and 100% more survivable

[pale ibex]

can we please talk about that M46 in yor lineup

why not use the M41

or super pershing

both very capable still and they dont get you into 8.0 uptiers

[wet tendon]

I played one match of 7.0

[pale ibex]

ah

[wet tendon]

Not fun

[pale ibex]

nvm then

[wet tendon]

Silent btr

[lament sand]

Same can be said about the E1-1

[pale ibex]

so its just no difference with way worse turret and reload

[lament sand]

But more pen

[pale ibex]

the short 90mm already is potent enough

and even then. the T34 imo is the better choice over the super pershing

[lost hare]

E1 hull is actual garbage

the extra armour is structural steel

with terrible modifers

[prisma folio]

Structural steel is not good armor. It’s only good for deforming the shells. But idk if its modeled that way in game. At least to my knowledge structural steel isn’t great AT armor.

[lament sand]

Still its some more armor over the original 101

[lost hare]

yeah but unlike t26e5

it can be ufped

at about 400m

by long 88

[lament sand]

Yeah? Never happened to me

[lament sand]

I make sure to angle ✨

Otherwise the e5 can w ufped aswell considering it has less armor, and yk what, ill run some tests later when I get the chance

[lament sand]

alright yall, i admit my mistake

i was wrong, but the E1 is just as capable in right hands

[lost hare]

e5 has more armour man

it cant be ufped

at any range

[lament sand]

[pale ibex]

in the right hands anything is capable

proven often enough by odd himself

the question is if its generally easier to do good with it and how versatile it is

and the E5 just is equally capable or more capable in most situations compared to the super pershing

[lament sand]

[glacial tide]

T-20 vs T-25 and Super Hellcat vs Walker Bulldog
Are either of these two counterparts inherently supiriour to the other? Specifically asking since T20/25 are both mediums and likewise lights for the other two

[pale ibex]

hellcat is 5.7, M41 is 6.3

they just different BRs

and i definitely wouldnt redommend bringing the hellcat to 6.3/6.7

[wet tendon]

Super hellcat

Not normal hellcat.

[wet tendon]

I would take the t20 over the t25, and the m41 over the super hellcat.

The t20 imo is better because it has a stabiliser, good speed and a 12.7 that can traverse 360 degrees. The m41 imo is also better because it is not open top, it has a better reload, good rounds and does not struggle whatsoever in uptiers.

It also has commander override but it isn’t that useful.

[pale ibex]

ah, my bad

personally id still take the M41

its gun is better than the 90mm for a light tank

[polar vigil]

do iineed to angle t34 and the the pershings

[prisma folio]

I would. Even if it’s lower amount of armor it’ll help

[pale ibex]

YES

particularly the T34

with the T26E5 its not as important but still good for making your mg port harder to hit by angling to the left

[lament sand]

Absolutely 100% yes

Angle like theres no tomorrow

[plush patrol]

or just do the dumb thing that I do, run towards the Germans and watch as they recoil in horror after all shooting my upper front plate and having the shell disintegrate before their eyes

[prisma folio]

so, how is the 90mm Sherman? i'm close to bringing it out

[pale ibex]

dont

its just not good

theres also no real lineup for it

[wet tendon]

It’s fine

Plus you’ll have the m18 to form a lineup with that and the ad4

[prisma folio]

tbh i only want it for completion and to get the T25 in it's folder

I already have the walker bulldog

[wet tendon]

Get the t25 but don’t even crew it.

[prisma folio]

no? that bad?

[wet tendon]

Yep.

[prisma folio]

ouch.. whats so bad about it?

[wet tendon]

It’s a 5.7 vehicle

[prisma folio]

then why is it so high?!

[wet tendon]

No stab, no armour, fairly slow

[wet tendon]

So it used to sit at 6.0

[prisma folio]

hmm... might be one of the few i avoid then

[wet tendon]

With all the above drawbacks, except that it had a 25 kph stab

Then gaijin decided to”Oh since we FUCKED UP the model we can just choose which version we want

So they removed the stabiliser, and still uptiered it.

[prisma folio]

...

yeah sounds like Gaijin hijynx

[pale ibex]

it gets even better

M26 is the exact same BR as T26E5

literally exactly the same tank just double the armour

[prisma folio]

So what kind if 6.3 lineup should i be looking at? I’d like my CAS to be the F4U-4B

[prisma folio]

5.7 air is… rough yo be stock in…

[wet tendon]

Just play it in ground

[lost hare]

jumbo 76 m41 m4a376 and m18

i usually only spawn jumbo 76 and CAS

[prisma folio]

So at USA 6.3… htf do I fight an IS-3? Granted i don’t have any if the better ammo, and so far the only round that goes through is the M36B2 HEAT shell

[wet tendon]

Heat, or barrel and flank

Shoot lower side with APHE

Never ever shoot upper side

The turret rear is also pretty weak towards the more horizontal part.

[prisma folio]

Once i have APHE unlocked i’ll do that. I never shoot there. I’ve learned how trolly that is. I usually go for turret side. But base AP shells are… well… crap

[wet tendon]

Yep

But from the front just barrel and track with a 12.7

[prisma folio]

Assuming i get the chance. It seems stable enouggh to get moving shots off reliably

How does the HE from the Paladin fair?

[wet tendon]

No idea

I don’t play HE launchers

As you can’t carry in them reliably

[prisma folio]

I only have them to spade them then i shelf them. I personally don’t like em. Granted it was fun downing 3 planes in 1 game with proxy fuse. That was fun

[wet tendon]

HE is pretty easy to aim so anything on the roof, under it or under the mantlet should work.

[prisma folio]

Right. The floor shot

[wet tendon]

Probably the most unreliable shot for me out of the three

The one I would do is roof.

[lament sand]

how to kill an is-3 in a m109

[wet tendon]

@lament sand

[lament sand]

thanks

[worthy quail]

Shoot the cupola (Im not 100% sure tho but try it)

[lament sand]

I guess i will

Thankd

Thanks*

[worthy quail]

Mostly for german tanks too you just shoot turret cheek in the m109a1

[last maple]

Cupola or below the barrel(the second one has the benefit it has a good chance of destroying the barrel if the shot doesn't kill

[lament sand]

I see, thanks

[prisma folio]

You know… i thought the Jumbo 76 would be less effective at 6.3. Man was I wrong.

You do need the APHE but still

[lament sand]

I used to think same before I unlocked all jumbos.

As long as u dont face kts youre good

[lost hare]

jumbo 76 is an insane tank

[prisma folio]

Jumbo 76 is… nasty.

[prisma folio]

I was not happy at first with the M33 shot but if it pens that 90mm slug does work

But the aphe is so much better

[radiant pecan]

where the hell do u shoot at to kill an is 3

[lost hare]

with what tank

[radiant pecan]

m26 or bulldog

the sides are nonpens

with the sabo

sabot

[pale ibex]

look at armour analysis

[prisma folio]

That’s not reliable. With AP or APHE i aim between the tracks for crew or ammo.

[lost hare]

with bulldog flat turret side

like at the base of it

maybe the peak of the pike works

m26 uhhh, use apcr

[teal fractal]

Yeah peak of the pike works front on. Can imagine it’s a bit of shock when it happens to the IS3 player tho

[glacial tide]

T34, regular solid hunk, or apcr as the default round?

apcr is higher pen, but still not so high that it can go through a kingtiogors front plate, so is the lower damage from a smaller chunk of metal worth it

[lost hare]

solid shell

[last maple]

Solid shot

[glacial tide]

Dont worry it doesnt matter cus I've been playing the last 2 battles with full ammo because I keep forgetting to not do that before I spawn

[wet tendon]

Never ever use apcr

[pale ibex]

T34 AP goes through everything that it needs to, yeah, you aint going through a king tiger ufp, but you can pen anywhere on the turret

APCR just isnt worth bringing

[radiant pecan]

how do you play the t34 properly

sniper or brawl

[pale ibex]

wouldnt recommend it for brawling, the reload alone is enough to deal with but you also dont have the greatest armour, its alr at range but not what id brawl with, use the T26E5 for that

[plush patrol]

sniper, the reload lets you down at close range and it’s UFP and LFP are massive weak spots

[wet tendon]

Your mantlet also gets lolpenned by the long 88.

[lament sand]

the ufp for the T34 is not a weak spot at all, specially if you angle

the lower plate is yes

[pale ibex]

isnt the ufp just 101mm?

[lament sand]

Yes, but very strong 101m

Mm

Can tank king tigers even

[wet tendon]

Me when I lie:

[plush patrol]

when brawling it can be, especially to Russian ultra angle APHE bullshit

[lament sand]

Maybe

[radiant pecan]

how about the t26e5

[prisma folio]

Ok. I just got the T26E5 and i love it. The american 90 mm M3 is a wonderful gun for it’s tier

[plush patrol]

T26E5 is one of the best tanks of its BR

[lament sand]

Yes, and dont forget the T34, which is at the same br, but with a bigger gun

And same armor

[wet tendon]

No?

Far worse armour

[pale ibex]

^

its ufp is M26 level armour

turret doesnt get close to T26E5 either

and tbh, the bigger gun is only really any good at range since the 90mm can already deal with most stuff close up

• the reload is significantly worse

[prisma folio]

Accidentlly bullied a Tiger last night with the T26E5. I shot. Killed his gunner/commander/breach, they smoked up. I ran around it and side shotted the armor with that T33 shell. Don’t have the APHE yet. That’s the next mod. Had to get parts and fire protection first

[pale ibex]

youll get a lot of that with that tank

cant pen a king tiger from the front except for mg port iirc

so kinda necessary

[prisma folio]

Hopefully after i get the APHE i won’t have to worry about it as much.

[final wadi]

APCR

T26E5 and US 90mm APCR is like 287 max pen can bully KT H even at range through turret

Or shoot the roof hatch with M82

[molten horizon]

[Cause most people are talking about the pershings]

just uh

bring out the normal version early game

and super mid-late

cause reload on normal is far better, but the armor on super is significatly more. how do I say this, "lucky" [As in: You have more chance to bouce shots or survive some then the normal version], but you have longer reload

same speed tho

the only OTHER downside about the super pershing is the one addon weakspot

[wet tendon]

Cupola too

[radiant pecan]

can you not just use apcr

[wet tendon]

It’s better in almost any situation to just barrel the fucker.

Than to use apcr.

[pale ibex]

apcr does work but tbh, at the point at which you need to load it first you can already have him tracked and barreled, which is just more effective than taking gunner and loader

which ig is also why i keep forgetting about apcr

its just not worth using, so i never do

except when fighting the maus since thats literally the only option you got to pen it

[plush patrol]

the APHE has the exact same pen as the KTs turret cheek weakspot so its kinda rng

[pale ibex]

thats at 0m with 0° angle

which just aint happening in battle

[plush patrol]

ive done it once before

it was like 20m and the snail blessed me with successful pen

[obsidian venture]

what is the best tank to get first in tier 5 us

[wet tendon]

What are the options?

[celest heart]

The Options are if you have every line unlocked.
M47,T32,M163 and the T95

Have none of those yet either but thats the options you get.

[wet tendon]

None of those are worth crewing

Use 7.0 to grind until you have the m60aos and the bradley

Then use that lineup to grind the entire 8.3 lineup, then 9.0, 10.3 and 11.0

[lost hare]

m47 is goated :(

T32 is alright

[wet tendon]

Japanese one

Us one not because the lineup is dog

[lost hare]

i mean i use 1 vehicle lineup anyway

doesnt matter that much

[plush patrol]

m47 has a rangefinder and heat if thats ur thing

could probably just stick it in the 7.0 lineup and youll be fine

[prisma folio]

So, i’ve noticed that with the 90mm M3 cannon that panther G and F martlets are a bit of an issue. Anyone else seeing this? And if i face them from the front is there a better shot?

[wet tendon]

I haven’t seen it no

But a better shot could be the cupola

F is kind of weird due to the mantlet cover just randomly eating shots.

[prisma folio]

Weird. I’ll hit them dead on (i think) and i bounces. I could be the F mantlet cover. I know its shaped differently

[wet tendon]

On the F though if his turret is slightly angled you should easily be able to pen it.

[wet tendon]

It has the same issue as the kth where the mantlet cover just creates a black hole spot.

[wet tendon]

It is smaller, but this should work.

[prisma folio]

Gotcha. I’ll try that. Its been a general trend that panther mantlets are harder to pen. Granted i’m happier for it cause before i noticed this my Panther G mantlets was getting penned by the 75 aphe through the thickest part of the mantlet

[wet tendon]

That should not be possible from short US guns

[prisma folio]

I know. But it’s happened to me

So If they fixed it, I’m happy

[fossil rose]

if you are playing light tanks, how to position yourself on open maps? getting behind a hill is nice and all but how do you shoot if the hill is blocking your position? getting to a map perpendecular hill is hard since everyone shoots me down before i can take position (shoots me from their base) i am honestly stuck

how do i push with heavy tanks

like t26

cuz they are made for pushing, but whenever i push, i get one shotted

if im not pushing whats the point of playing heavy tanks

like whatever i do i feel like its wrong

cuz i die either way

[wet tendon]

https://discord.com/channels/393514558976950272/1178990253529378816

This should help.

As I use pretty much every tank as a light tank.

[fossil rose]

stock grinding is hell as well

do i just shoot at their barrels?

[fossil rose]

but this is huge help

thx

[wet tendon]

I don't recommend this

Try to go for kills

[fossil rose]

yea but having a fricking metal ball as ammo doesnt really do anything against anyone xD

for exp t92

[fossil rose]

am i asking the right questions?

[wet tendon]

Sort of?

[fossil rose]

why u say sort of xD

[wet tendon]

idk exactly what you want to know

[fossil rose]

like i need to learn how to position myself and when to push

[wet tendon]

learnign wen to push comes frome xperience

the pics from me helps with positioning

[fossil rose]

yea i am downloading all of em now

naming those

[wet tendon]

the positions are viable basically through the entire match

[fossil rose]

i wish u just put a zip file but oh well

beggars cant be choosers

[lost hare]

a good spot if turret shot is being annoying is mg port with the 90mm

[prisma folio]

I’ll try that. I thought the port would be too small for a 90mm

[lost hare]

nah

weirdly the 90mm can also shit on jagdpanther mg port as well

when its volumetric

[prisma folio]

Huh. Good to know

Though i shouldn’t be surprised when a 122 can squeeze into an mg port as well

[wet tendon]

Really

That’s super nice

Because 76 just gets consumed by the void

[lost hare]

yeah i was surprised when i mgported a jagdpanther with the t26e5

[prisma folio]

Starting to stretch into 6.7. Currently going after the super pershing. I LOVE the Pershing but that long 90 will be a godsend against king tigers and panthers from the front.

[pale ibex]

jumbo pershing is the better one to go for imo

a lot better for grindings since its basically an american king tiger

[lost hare]

it has more armour with a worse gun

[pale ibex]

you dont really notice the worse gun that much

you are still perfectly able to kill everything you will face

even the maus is no issue with APCR

has like 287mm max iirc

[prisma folio]

With APCR i’ve seen some better success. Not a ton but better. It is true though. Only a few targets really can avoid the 90mm M3 cannon with armor

[final wadi]

And US 90mm APCR is surprisingly good

Like 287 max pen is great especially to buly German stuff like Ferdinand and KTs and those

[pale ibex]

dont even need it tbh

you need to load APCR first anyway so with that shot you can already disable them

[lost hare]

short 90 is objectively and quite significantly worse than the long 88...

[pale ibex]

just because its not lol penning anything doesnt mean its bad bruh

[lost hare]

who said its bad?

its just subpar at its br

and objectively worse than the long 88

[pale ibex]

.

[wet tendon]

He just said it’s objectively worse?

Which it is?

[pale ibex]

he said its objectively and quite significantly worse

which is the part that i disagree on

[wet tendon]

It’s lower velocity, significantly lower pen and a longer reload

So yes

[pale ibex]

its not significantly worse since you can still easily deal with everything you face except stuff like an IS-6 etc

[wet tendon]

I did not say it is a bad gun or that you can’t still deal with stuff you face.

It’s just objectively worse, and significantly worse as you can’t deal with a lot of the stuff face as easily as you can with a long 88

You cannot ufp panthers, you can’t turret front pen kth’s, you cannot deal with is3’s as easily as the long 88 can

[prisma folio]

I’ve learned that machine gun ports are perfect 90mm M3 targets. Killed a few King Tigers and Panthers today with that shot

Which earned me revenge bombings cause of course it did

[lost hare]

mg port is a good shot for the 90 yes, considering it has a nuke for filler

[lament sand]

Shhhh, dont spread the info

[prisma folio]

Honestly if i fac a jumbo anything from the front and I know it i aim for the MG ports. Between the shot normalization so you just have to get close to it you can wreck some seriously tough tanks with it

[prisma folio]

thank god i'm out of the paladin for the scorpion. i hated playing it

[lament sand]

Yeah, the paladin is just a big moving shed begging to be destroyed

But it has a good gun

And despite being easier to kill, the scorpion is more fun

[fossil rose]

any lineup rec with these in 6.7 br is appreciated

also im researching m26 but maybe it should be t34 instead?

[wet tendon]

5 slots: t26e5, m41, m50, m26, f4u4b

[wet tendon]

No, the pershing is better

[fossil rose]

🫡

[pale ibex]

M26 is a T26E5 but with half the armour, essentially same mobility and same gun

not worth

it was good when it was 6.3 but its 6.7 now

most brainrot gaijin moment

tbh, the T34 has very decent mobility for its size, better armour than pershing and a lolpen gun that 1 shots a lot even without HE filler so id chose it over the M26

the only problem with it is the size

its a barn

personally id do T26E5, M41, T34, either T26E1-1 or M56 and a plane

the M56 beats the M50 for me due to the gun

[wet tendon]

It’s open top firstly

Secondly can be 12.7d

[pale ibex]

both have a non existant survivability

[wet tendon]

And the m50 deals with heavy armour and more enemies far easier

[wet tendon]

Hm no

The m50 can survive mg fire

[pale ibex]

and then M56 can survive main gun rounds

[wet tendon]

And arty near misses

[wet tendon]

?????

What

[pale ibex]

ive had a lot of times where i got hit by heavies and had only minimal damage

[wet tendon]

Then they can’t aim?

[pale ibex]

ig

[lost hare]

i liked m56 more for the gun

but its very very unsurvivable

so i use it for constantly moving as opposed to camping and hiding

[prisma folio]

But you def need to get the better ammo fast. The starting APCR is decent but APCR shatters easily

[lament sand]

I wouldn't call that decent tbh

[prisma folio]

I say its decent cause when it does pen the shrapnel is actually deadly in my experience

But i do want the HEAT badly. Or even just the APHE

[pale ibex]

the APHE is already very good

HEATFS just makes it better for range

[prisma folio]

So, proper mix for scorpion? 15 aphe 5 HEAT?

[final wadi]

M56 depends on BR you get

For me it's mostly HEATFS

As 6.7 is 24/7 up tier for me

Vs IS-3/6, T-10A, ETC

[prisma folio]

Yeah it’s been that way for me too. All my nation shave been full uptier hell lately

[final wadi]

But yeah most is HEATFS for me

20 HEATFS 8 M82 I think

[wet tendon]

I mean ideally just m82

Ok not just but like 5 rounds of heat

Because ypu should be on the flanks

[pale ibex]

i use the M41 for flanks and the M56 for being a rat

[final wadi]

Well a lot of other people flank in stuff you can't pen really also map dependent but HEATFS got buffed so it's better now

[prisma folio]

i've seen ferdinand flanks lately

[fossil rose]

how to push points?

like i can get behind good cover and wait all i want but if i dont push, we will loose.

and whenever i push, i die the instant i leave my cover xD

[pale ibex]

step 1: get T26E5
step 2: done

[fossil rose]

wdym, it has a big fucking weakpoint in the front armor

and all its sides are just paper

[pale ibex]

all its sides have almost as much armour as the king tiger

hitting the mg port isnt really that easy when angled and moving + you get a great gun to respond with

and besides the mg port theres no major weakspots that are easy to hit when on the move

[fossil rose]

dont get me wrong i like the tank as well, i use it every match

but pushing makes me die nearly always

[spice grotto]

Whats a good anti plane cas fighter for 5.3ish and 6.3ish

Because I absolutely DESPISE cas.

[pale ibex]

P-51

[spice grotto]

H version I would assume? Haven't unlocked it yet, just have up to the d-5 variant.

[pale ibex]

its the best US fighter at that br

[wet tendon]

f4u4 for 5.3, f4u4b for 6.3

a2a the p51h is better but it has shit cas capabilities compared to the corsair

[pale ibex]

you might wanna pay attention to the fact that he said "I absolutely DESPISE cas."

[wet tendon]

????????/

yeah???????????

That's whe he asked for an ANTI PLANE cas plane?

Maybe pay attention to the question 😇

[pale ibex]

thats probably just bad wording

[lost hare]

if you want something easier to use at 6.3 or above

f8f also works

[prisma folio]

The bearcat does turn hard

And you can put on gun pods to shrek planes harder

[spice grotto]

What I meant is I hate dying and my team dying to enemy cas, so I want the best plane to fight enemy cas and idc about ground pounding

Air superiority only

[wet tendon]

In that case p51/f8f1b

For 5.3 I would still say the f4u4

[spice grotto]

How about the f8f-1? Or is corsair still better

[wet tendon]

Corsair still better imo

[spice grotto]

More guns?

[wet tendon]

yes

the bearcat, due to having just 4 fifties, sometimes struggles to deal the needed damage

[spice grotto]

Doesn't it have some better belts? I think I remember reading that on the wiki

[wet tendon]

No it has the same belts.

Both are late wr 12.7s

[spice grotto]

Nm then, thanks for the recommendation to continue using the f4f-4

[prisma folio]

If you’re at 6.3 the F4U-4B has 4 20 mms with a decent air belt. It’s no mingeshosse but it does the job

[wet tendon]

Use uni on the anm3's.

[prisma folio]

Uni huh? Not air or ground belts?

[wet tendon]

I run ground

Because cas

But uni is super good

You can run default too, exact same belt

[prisma folio]

Huh

[pale ibex]

at 6.3 the P-51H is 100% the best option

even with just 6 .50s

[prisma folio]

When i get the turbo stang i’ll be able to comment. But my highest plane in US is the 4B corsair

[wet tendon]

I prefer the corsair

You can deal with people faster and with less risk to yourself and it’s a lot easier to win if someone is on your tail.

The p51 is more suited for air rb

[pale ibex]

its the best US fighter at that BR by far

[prisma folio]

Well the mustang was a wonderous machine. If i ever get the money irl i’m buying one

[wet tendon]

For air rb sure.

[pale ibex]

youre gonna have to spend a fortune to keep it running too tho

[prisma folio]

For CAS i like the corsairs 4, 250 lb single drop bombs.

[pale ibex]

where is the difference between fighting planes in arb vs grb?

[wet tendon]

In grb energy and speed matters less than in arb

[pale ibex]

for CAS the corsair is prolly more suited, yeah

[wet tendon]

Instant turn time and sustained turn time matters more

Because you don’t really plan engagements from a longer range

[pale ibex]

sounds a bit like a skill issue tbh

[wet tendon]

You’re usually at a lower energy state than in arb, due to spaa, terrain and fighters

[pale ibex]

particularly when you are there to exclusively hunt cas

[prisma folio]

Not much tbh. Most fighters air carrying bombs. Honestly the dog fights in GRB feel better. Not instant spotting someone and knowing what it is makes it feel like a real fight where your skills matters more than what you’re seeing displayed in front of you

[pale ibex]

when hunting cas you ideally kill it before it gets to the battlefield

[wet tendon]

If you want to call me bad, do so and fuck off.

[pale ibex]

very relatable

[wet tendon]

If not, read my answer before making counterarguments.

[pale ibex]

i did?

i also didnt say youre bad

i said that i think youre wrong

[wet tendon]

No, just saying skill issue.

Which I why I just wanted to confirm.

[pale ibex]

the skill issue is just my guess at why youre wrong

[prisma folio]

Also you know what’s crazy? I think the zeros perform better as CAP in GRB as people actually try to come in and fight you rather than ignore you because they know you can reverse them in a split second

[wet tendon]

I guess my experience in grb does not matter

All those corsair games were not real.

[wet tendon]

They do yes.

As long as you can sort of keep your speed up.

If you camp the airspawn it’s even easier.

[prisma folio]

Don’t get mr wrong. I love my zeros. But i don’t like getting ignored except for the “broken” or “meta” planes in ARB

[prisma folio]

Nah. Once i drop my bombs i go high and play CAP over my allies. Waiting for a plane to try and get them

[wet tendon]

Instead of going high, try to stay fast like 20-50m above the trees.

Go sort of off bore of the battlefield from the enemy airspawn, and between it and the battlefield.

Ypu’re super hard to spot even on ulq and you can intercept planes literally without them knowing you’re there.

[pale ibex]

yeah, intercepting them on the way to the battlefield is best since they least expect you there

[wet tendon]

You can also help your team by sort of strafing opentops and spaa sporadically.

[prisma folio]

That has it’s own risks if you don’t fully know the terrain. But no i don’t like camping the enemy air spawn. Unless they’re just spawning PE-8s or lancasters with 12,000 pound bombs. Then i have no mercy

[pale ibex]

and by going low you have no silluete against the sky

you dont have to hug the ground

just stay low

[wet tendon]

100%, I also don’t airspawn camp, I usually just strafe people. There is a reason my ign is what it is.

[prisma folio]

There’s an issue with just staying low. You’re keeping at a low energy state with no real way to regain it instantly. And the zero doesn’t have the strongest engine. Now in a P-51? Oh that’s viable 100%

[wet tendon]

No, you keep fast

[pale ibex]

you are fast enough to pop up, fuck em up and get back down to get fast again really quickly

[wet tendon]

If you miss the headon you just make them overshoot in 90% of the cases

[pale ibex]

or attack them from underneath

[wet tendon]

Having a stronger engine is 100% better though, you are correct.

[prisma folio]

Well keeping at 1-2 Km seems to work for me. Lets me jump planes, avoid AAA, and honestly i’ve gotten proficient at spotting the contrails from tree hugging planes though so i jump them from above

That’s not saying i can’t adapt. But i do sometimes hug the trees. Just depends on many factors and in the moment decision making

[wet tendon]

Yeah no stress

For me if I do that I just have super little impact on the game for ym team imo

And I have zero patience.

[prisma folio]

I think it depends for me on how air heavy the enemy team wants to be, what plane i’m in and how repaired it is.

But it is crazy how fast the enemy goes from “I WANT TO CAS BOMB YOU TO DEATH” to “hell naw i ain’t spawning a plane” when you have a mustang or zero above the M3 for CAP

Or even a pair of em like in Odd and phly’s vid. That was crazy

[wet tendon]

Haven’t watched it. Not a phly fan.

[prisma folio]

I liked it from Odd’s perspective. The man is a TERROR in a turbo stang

[spice grotto]

Unless you're playing an inferior plane and they turn and get on your tail because you don't know what they are so you turn fight them lol

[prisma folio]

But that’s the thing. You don’t know by looking at the given information on the screen. It feels better overall. I cannot begin to tell you how INFURIATING it was trying to grind the Sakeen for ANYTHING else as 90% if the time the enemy would see a sakeen, pile on me for the free kill then attempt to shame and mock me for flying that plane in ARB trying desperately to get out of it for i know how bad it is. At least in GRB i’d have a chance cause my position isn’t pin point accurate and you can’t tell what i am at 2+ clicks just by looking at my direction. It’s more exciting it’s more fun

And half of it is knowing your own plane too and trying to see what’s on you quickly and decide how to escape/reverse them. It’s more skill based and i wish ARB had that

[pale ibex]

well ideally theyd already be damaged when going into a turn

doesnt always work ofc but its a good enough strategy

[lost hare]

so camping air spawn

[spice grotto]

Maybe I'm too kill happy and I see something and I shoot something and I miss so I keep trying to get on their tail lol

[prisma folio]

Hey it’s a game. Have fun with it. If i can keep the skies clear of big bombers (usually what i’m on the watch for in a plane if i’m CAP) and ground pounders

[wraith dome]

Very good tank and as sakota said go for disabling but weakspots if you can. Wouldn’t believe how many nonpens I’ve had from German or Russian meta vehicles right before I cupola them.

[wraith dome]

I take the jumbo 76, M25, and bulldog +m19a1 and cas

[prisma folio]

M25, is that the ine foldered with the M4/T26?

[wraith dome]

I think so yh

[wraith dome]

Oh and m109

[wraith dome]

Oh god that’s from November last year

[radiant pecan]

wow that was a while ago lol

[wraith dome]

Sorry mate I thought it said this was a new post

[radiant pecan]

lol

[spice grotto]

I like the t25, solid cannon plus a smallish profile

Good turret armor too, from what it seems. Hull down is nice, but the front can bounce things from downtiers and some light tanks so it's survivability isn't bad

Find a good spot just past or just before some of the points and just sit there killing everything that passes

[willow fractal]

That was last year lmao. Thanks though

Ah I see you already figured that out

[wet tendon]

What the fuck is the m25

[spice grotto]

Oh sorry t25

[spice grotto]

This thing

[wet tendon]

Oh no

Rather use the m41

That thing is NOT good.

[wraith dome]

it said the last msg was 19 hours ago and i misread itas being when it was posted

[spice grotto]

What makes it not good?

[wraith dome]

probably means the gun handling and solid shot AP

[spice grotto]

It has aphe?...

[willow fractal]

Fair enough lol

[wraith dome]

bulldog has aphe????

[spice grotto]

Was talking t25

Bulldog doesn't have aphe :/

[wraith dome]

ohhh i thought bat said hed rather not use m41

[wraith dome]

yes thats why i was incredulous

[spice grotto]

He said he would rather use the m41

[wraith dome]

yes ik

[spice grotto]

👍

[wraith dome]

its odd to me because my opinion on them is polarised

[wet tendon]

Horrible readyrack size with a long reload for a 90mm after that, no stabiliser, bad armour

[wet tendon]

The solid shot does not matter as it gets m82

[wraith dome]

read what i said

[plush patrol]

how to t32?

is3 kinda like better in every way apart from slightly longer reload and worse depression

[fossil rose]

guys, i found the best tactic

if something feels dangerous, it probably is

if you hear an engine, look around

[scenic summit]

Grinding which one first M4 M26 or jumbo 76

[wet tendon]

76 jumbo

[pale ibex]

100% jumbo

the pershing-sherman mutant is rather terrible

jumbo is bonkers tho

[dire sage]

P-51D-30 for 5.0-5.3, F4U-4B for 5.7 and 6.0-6.7 P51H and AD4 (alot of people underestimate it because its an attacker, it does CAP quite well)

[spice grotto]

How about for 4.0-4.3? F4U-4? P63? P51-C-10?

[prisma folio]

P-63 has 3 500 pound bombs plus a cannon. Could be a nasty CAS and anti CAS

[wet tendon]

It has fairly mediocre flight performance though.

[pale ibex]

its not terrible but P-51 is definitely better

[dire sage]

P-51 for CAP

[spice grotto]

P51 cannonstang or P51 c 10 with the quad .50 cals?

[dire sage]

C-10 for CAP, Cannonstang for universal CAS CAP
.

[spice grotto]

Cannonstang is good for killing ground targets?

[dire sage]

kinda, but if the 20mils have SAP yes

[spice grotto]

Hmmm yes they do

Top down attack?

[dire sage]

Yup

you shread Pz4's

[spice grotto]

Cool

[wet tendon]

Just use the f4u4

You have an actually good amount of ammo, and varied ordnance

And super good low speed performance, unlike the p51’s.

[spice grotto]

I feel like the p51 c-10 actually has great low speed performance

I actually just took it out and had a cannonstang ally be my wingmate and we destroyed every single plane in the sky... 6 plane kills between the 2 of us

Maybe that's just teamwork lol

But there were several instances where I was low speed (like 150mph or slower) and in vertical and I was able to pull off a much tighter turn back to the ground in the p51c than the f4u-4 can do, idk that might just be me

[wet tendon]

Yeah because you are slower

The f4u4 literally has one of if not the best engines in a prop

You have insane thrust

[spice grotto]

I was in similar situations with the f4u4 and it didn't perform like that 🤷‍♂️ probably just perception

[spice grotto]

Also I thought it was the wyvern that had the best prop engine

[spice grotto]

What's the best 6.7 lineup? Plus plane for CAP

[wet tendon]

How many crew slots?

[spice grotto]

6

I don't quite have any planes at that br yet but I'm working on it

I do have every single ground vehicle up to 7.0 though

[wet tendon]

T26e5, m41, f4u4b, m26/t34/t26e1 (in order of what i would have in that slot), m50

The sixth slot you can either fill with another plane (ad4/a1h/p51h) or spaa

Or maybe another tank.

[spice grotto]

Ok thanks

[dark dagger]

What's a good usa 6.3 lineup?

[wraith dome]

i take M19/M42, T25, 76 jumbo, Paladin, and cas

[wet tendon]

T25 ew wtf

[wraith dome]

we have conversed about this before

[wet tendon]

M41, 76 jumbo, hellcat/76 m4a3, t20/ad4/a1h/am1, f4u4b

[wraith dome]

T25 is an enjoyable tank to play for me

[wet tendon]

Enjoyable does not mean good

😇

I enjoy some bad tanks

Or overtiered tanks

[dark dagger]

👍

[wraith dome]

enjoyable and good. forgive my ambiguity

[dark dagger]

👍

[wet tendon]

It’s not good

[dark dagger]

It is a game, so if it's enjoyable it's doing it's job

[wet tendon]

It’s quite possibly the worst 6.3 in game

[dark dagger]

Even tho wt is technically a secondary career

[dark dagger]

Can I ask a thing abt 4.7?

[spice grotto]

That is what this chat is about...

[dark dagger]

It says 5.3-7.7

anyway

Good 4.7 usa lineup? Just got the t14

[spice grotto]

Whups can't read

[wet tendon]

T14, f4u4, m4a2, m24, whatever attacker you want, m16, m42/19 as light tanks

T55e1 if you have it.

[obsidian venture]

is the xm800t good

also

good 7.0 us lineup?

using tier 3 cas

lol

idek anymore

yall dont need a answer my questions

[final wadi]

Personally it's mid

Just a worse marder without ATGMs really, smaller, worse armor, 66 pen or so pen at 7.7 ain't great at all especially solo play vs Russia like all games. Stab helps and speed but that's about it

[wet tendon]

M46, m50, t29/t26e5, m41, f4u4

Shit that you can add are the premium m46, a2d, t92

[dark dagger]

Thx

[celest heart]

for 7.3 this is my lineup so far and its working.
up for any improvements.

[pale ibex]

why the M26?

the M41 would be way better there

better mobility, better gun, better gun handling and the less armour doesnt matter at that br

since the M26s armour already is very low for that br

[fossil rose]

dafaq do i do in fields of normandy?

[fossil rose]

i would add t92 as well since heatfs op at that br

[celest heart]

Well i dont has it yet.

And the M41s stock..

[fossil rose]

go play it, its angled armor is pretty good

oh wait

i thought u said m42

i dont like m41 that much, the apds round is shit

[plush patrol]

bring T92 and F84B for cas bc it gets HVARs and a ballistic computer

[celest heart]

F84B dont have that and t92 dont have that either.

sadly

[dire sage]

F84F (which is 8.3) is the only F84 variant with CCIP

[plush patrol]

nope, F84B has CCRP

[dire sage]

It doesnt lol

[plush patrol]

it does

[dire sage]

Show

Cuz F84G doesnt have it

[plush patrol]

Bet

[plush patrol]

yeah only B gets it for some reason

[dire sage]

Oh, explains then

Never played the B

Only the G

[plush patrol]

o right

I just never bothered grinding the G

might get it for the 7.7 lineup tho

[dire sage]

CcRP isnt same as CCIP

CCIP is better

[plush patrol]

i know

[dire sage]

ccrp is only good paired with guided ordnance

[plush patrol]

CCRP is fun for lobbing bombs halfway across the map to hit clueless light vehicles and spaa tho

[wraith dome]

How does one aim it accurately

[plush patrol]

its quite annoying to aim at moving targets so find a camper or spaa sat somewhere
then bind activate target point to something and click

the red box will be placed wherever the mouse aim cursor is pointing

[wraith dome]

I know but even setting it at stationary targets it always goes way off target for me

[wraith dome]

Ik

[plush patrol]

are you keeping the plane straight towards the target

[wraith dome]

I think so

[plush patrol]

try keep the mouse aim cursor in the circle thats on the vertical line

also put the red box a little behind the target you want to hit

ccrp tends to miscalculate a little early when near uneven terrain so that sort of fixes the issue sometimes

[wraith dome]

Ah ok

Thanks

[radiant pecan]

how do u play the m50

lol

like properly

[mighty elm]

Flank and try to hit ammo to save shells

be a rat

[radiant pecan]

oh okay

[wet tendon]

Firstly use the hesh. Aim for roofs, turret sides etc. it does by far the most damage. Secondly flank, get in spots where you can expose one or two side barrels. Thirdly, play near caps to not worry about ammo.

It’s strangely stable on the move so also use that to your advantage.

[lament lintel]

can i kill a tiger II from the front with the M56, M26, T26 E5

[final wadi]

Tiger 2 P easy kill since 100mm turret but the KT H is roof hatch with M82 or you need APCR or HEATFS really to front turret

[pale ibex]

with M56 its easy due to heatfs

for the others youll need apcr or kill it through mg port

[lament lintel]

Ty

[wet tendon]

With thr m50 you can go turret roof and side from the front.

[radiant pecan]

can you not pen the turret face with the t26e5

[wet tendon]

Not with aphe.

[radiant pecan]

uh it happened to me before 💀

went straight through

[wraith dome]

same i think ive done that

[pale ibex]

turret cheek is 185mm, the APHE has exactly 185mm at 0m 0°

[final wadi]

Reason I said APCR

Like 287 max pen need 185 vs KT H

[radiant pecan]

true

[lament lintel]

ive unlocked the M50 and played a couple games with it. well the first 2 - 3 games didnt go well when i played it. and the last 3 games ive played it it got me 3 to 5 kills a game. even in uptiers against is-6

only downside is that it doesnt have much ammo

[lament sand]

yeah

and takes a while to reload

[fossil rose]

lads i have cracked the code

i now know how to properly play this game

3 rules

1- do not ever think you will survive a shot

2- if you think doing something is dangerous, it is

3- flanking is the name of the game

[wet tendon]

No wtf

Three rules

Always expect that your enemy is on a maxed ace crew

Always abuse broken spots

Do not be a shitter

Very simple

[wraith dome]

Depends on the definition of shitter. Being a rat or being toxic for no particular reason

[dark dagger]

2 is true

[dark dagger]

These are true

Wait

I've got one more

When u die, don't rage, take it as an opportunity to learn what u did wrong, and fix it next time

I believe if u dont do this u will never get good at the game

Or it will take a very long time

[spice grotto]

Ok so this is like 7 rules then?

[dark dagger]

We need a few thousand more

[frozen skiff]

for USA, there is one rule: CAS go brrr

[spice grotto]

What are the best cas planes for each br 4.0 to 7.0?

[wet tendon]

Give me like 5 mins

3.3-4.3:f6f5, f4u1d or p40 all do fine.
4.7-5.3:f4u4 with customs, a26c as attacker
5.7-6.7: F4u4b as fighter, a1h, ad4, am1, a26c as attacker

For 4.0 you can also use the p51d20

It doesn't fly well but has decent cas options, and a p63 is also sort of good at the br

[spice grotto]

P40 at that high of a br?

[wet tendon]

It can work yes

ideally a hellcat.

[spice grotto]

What loadout do you use for the f4u4?

[spice grotto]

^^

[wet tendon]

These.

From my favourites, you cna ignore the top 2 and 4th one

I prefer 100lb bombs over hvars but you can totally use hvars.

Put the 1000 in that spot so that it drops first if you use weapon selection ( you need to otherwise you drop the smallest bombs first)

[spice grotto]

Ah

Would assume same loadouts for the f4u4b?

[wet tendon]

No

One sec

I only use the top 2 and the 4 250lb one

Second one is for if you do not ahve enough sp for the first one

Also use weapon selection for this one.

For the hellcat I use the top 2

Preferably the top one

[spice grotto]

Alright, thanks

Is the p47 any good at groundpounding?

[wet tendon]

It is

But it's horrible at flying and maneuvering

[spice grotto]

I see

[wraith dome]

Yes very. I use the 3.7 one (I don’t have any others) at 6.3 and can make a big impact

[lost hare]

why cant that 4b have that man

so dumb

[wet tendon]

I kind of prefer it as is

It makes me spend less time

But it would be super nice

[leaden eagle]

Yeah, it's very good at hitting the fucking ground if you know what I mean

You get 2 dives with energy MAX

Then say bye bye to any sort of speed or anything else

[nimble pagoda]

What vehicles should I have for a 5.3 lineup, im struggling big time

[wet tendon]

M4a2 76, m4a1 76, t1e1, m36, f4u4

[wraith dome]

^

[nimble pagoda]

Thanks, I’ll shot for that

[west crypt]

That's what I did, great plane, although I'm addicted to the P47 right now. The d-28 and the d-25. I've actually been enjoying them so much I've been playing air rb instead of ground rb (for actual fun not just grinding which I used to do).

[spice grotto]

You actually like the p47? How do you play it?

I can't seem to find much success with either it or the corsair

[old hornet]

Does the M48A2 C get a stabiliser at 7.7?

[final wadi]

No

The 8.3 M48A2 G A2 doesn't either

[wraith dome]

Sadly earliest stabiliser is the TAM

Excluding the TURM III

[final wadi]

Gepard is lower BR as well right?

Than TAM

[wraith dome]

Oh yeah

That’s 8.3 I was thinking about proper gun things

[final wadi]

TBH I could 35s as proper guns

As they can kill almost anything

Love using AA as TDs LOL

[spice grotto]

Any advice on how to grind the xm800t? Just unlocked it earlier today (love the turret traverse!)

[nimble pagoda]

play it as an energy fighter

If you turn with it you get eaten by the BF-109 and other planes

[rotund torrent]

Any good lineups for 5.3 because I am really struggling there for a good bit now

[nimble pagoda]

Ill show you mine

M4a2 (76) M36 GMC M4a3e2 M36B2

I have the M19A1 but barely use it, im terrible at AA

Realistically the M4a3 (76) W is an upgraded version of the M4a2

[rotund torrent]

👍 thanks

[nimble pagoda]

Just know where to shoot them honestly

[rotund torrent]

Ok

[nimble pagoda]

I can shit on most of the german mains, if you put yourself in a good position, ground RB becomes easy.

[nimble pagoda]

so real

[prisma folio]

Not true. At speed you can really turn. I’ve been out turned due to speed by it

[pale ibex]

yeah, the P-47 fights well

particularly when you get shots on since 8 50 cals do shred

[spice grotto]

True, I like the 8 .50 cals

[polar vigil]

what do I research next

[wet tendon]

T26e5

[wraith dome]

T26E1 i think he means

[pale ibex]

eh no

[radiant pecan]

the e5 is good tho

[pale ibex]

literally the best american tank at that br

[prisma folio]

Ah super pershing. I love it. I really liked the Jumbo Pershing but frequently the gun just wouldn’t pen when i needed it too

[pale ibex]

E5 is the jumbo pershing

the 90 is good enough to kill anything youll meet

even IS-3s

[plush patrol]

from side

sure

frontally

no chance at all

unfortunately you’re gonna have to gun and track them

[tulip furnace]

How do I kill like any Russian 5.0 to 8.0 tank

Along with German frontal on the panther and tiger 2

[pale ibex]

thats what i mean

but it works very reliably

[pale ibex]

on the panther you just shoot the turret cheeks, theyre completely flat and only 100mm

on the tiger you go for ufp

the 76mm can go through it when unangled and at slight angles no problem, if youre at higher angles you can go for mg and driver port iirc, but check that yourself, not really sure
with the 90mm you just do the same on the panther and always go for ufp on the tiger unless the sides are at the same or lower angle

in case you meant the tiger 2 theres really nothing besides tracking and shooting barrels that will work frontally except maybe mg port, but you again have to double check that

with the 90mm you can go for the mg port on it and most importantly turret cheeks

when his gun points a bit to your left or right you just shoot right behind where the front plate of his turret since armour there is only 80mm and angled in your favor

the 90mm APCR also goes clean through the turret front plate on the tiger 2

that way youll at least get the gunner and with a little luck even ammo rack it

for the russian tanks youll need to say which particular ones youre struggling with

as theye all quite different in terms of wwak spots

[tulip furnace]

T-55 when uptiered

[pale ibex]

check armour analysis

i dont remember the weakspots rn

[final wadi]

M82 nukes KT H cupola and panthers turrets are troll besides the F and 2 that can and do bounce a lot of rounds as well TBF

[wet tendon]

Just aim

Dont shoot too close to the barre otherwise super easy pens.

[pale ibex]

never had trouble with panther cheeks

90mm also aint super big so volumetric shouldnt have that much of an effect

[final wadi]

Your lucky then as a lot of people hate panthers

Since they got the different armor thickness on the front turret your off like a inch and pen becomes no it's also why I love panthers

Especially turret wiggle

Can make like 100 to 150 armor to 300+

Even lower part or top part can be like 400+

effective

[pale ibex]

im not talking about the mantlet, i dislike that bit too

[prisma folio]

I love and hate panthers. Frontally Panthers can be a monster to deal with. I love to play them. Hate to face them

[spice grotto]

Agreed.... their gun handling is so smooth but sooooo slow

[spice grotto]

How in the world do you bomb with the f8f

[pale ibex]

when their cheeks are exposed theyre more like breakfast

theyre only really at an advantage at range

[dire sage]

Wdym?

You drop bomb, you extend

And drop more

Simple

[wet tendon]

No

the fuck

[wet tendon]

Drop the first two (the wing bombs) at the same time

then drop the centreline one.

[dire sage]

You van get three bomb drops if you dont use keyboard control

[wet tendon]

your plane is pretty much unflayable

[dire sage]

Or roll in the opposite direction of the bomb that is still attached whilst using mouse to pull up

[wet tendon]

But idk why you would even play the bercat over the corsair

[dire sage]

True

Or 51

51H is better for universal use at 6.3+

Whislt F4U4 or F4U4B is bettee at 6.0 and below

[wet tendon]

no

The corsair is insanely superior to the p51 in terms of cas

And you ahve better armament

[dire sage]

Did you read?