IKEA

[knotty yew]

Strv 103C, ItPsV, T-55M, Ikv-91-105

UDES is good, BILL is alright

[whole minnow]

Only issue with BILL is low ATGM count and slow

[chrome badge]

What should I remove to keep VIDAR and 103O?

[knotty yew]

I would only bring the VIDAR higher, 103C

Niche autoloader sniper, good tank but still situational

Otherwise stick to 8.0

[chrome badge]

Higher??

[chrome badge]

K

But rn im moslty playing 8.3 cuz SAAB 105G

[knotty yew]

If you want to use both of those tanks just play 8.0 or 8.3

[chrome badge]

K

[novel sleet]

Bill also dies if u shoot the atgm in the launcher

[mental fulcrum]

soon the panzer 4 will replace the pvkv 4

[whole minnow]

Most ATGMs do but BILL you can chase sight to the launcher and only poke that out

[novel sleet]

ik that and ppl still shoot the atgms in the launcher, u would be suprised how many times i died by that

[whole minnow]

I have yet to die like that

In thr BILL

[novel sleet]

unless its a bug idk, bc some vehicles die when u shoot it and some dont

cv9040 bill doesnt die from it but 8.7 bill does

[whole minnow]

It's just gaijin who picks it TBH

Unless they made it when it's fired and reloading it doesn't blow up

But my BILL IFV has blown up when ATGM was shot

Happened 2 days ago in 4 games

[nimble dove]

I love the ikv 91 105

[nimble dove]

Strf 9040 Bill really good

[rose mesa]

imo its okay but not "really good"

[whole minnow]

Personally playing it recently it's mid ill take a M3A3 over it for 2 main things

Commander sight and has a full speed stab

Not a stab that stops at 20 MPH

[knotty yew]

BILL also has a commander sight w/ thermals

[whole minnow]

Since when

I hit my commander sight key bind

Like M3A3 Bradley and it does nothing

Only gunner sight trying to aim that way for BILLs

And any other tank with it works as well for same bind

Ok got it to work but IDFK why it wasn't working for ages

Legit 3 days ago or so M3A3 worked BILL nah not at all

[humble lake]

What to do in berlin map with 5.3 lineup?

[novel sleet]

damn, bill had it for ages , but i also dont know why 1 keybind for commander sight doesnt wok for multiple tanks WIERD

[glass grotto]

find a nice sniper spot and pray

[humble lake]

exactly

there is none

cuz enemy sits as well

and i dont know a good position so since they dont come out i wont know if my position is good or not

[glass grotto]

which side did you spawn on?

[humble lake]

bottom

[glass grotto]

thats imo the easier side to play

[nimble dove]

Asrad any good? Or just stick to lvkv 9040?

[novel sleet]

asrad is great spaa, one of best at 10.3

[nimble dove]

Comparable to strela?

[novel sleet]

HAHAHAH nothing can be compared to strela

[whole minnow]

Stingers would

[novel sleet]

but u do have great laser guided missles which can be used to kill planes 8km away

[whole minnow]

If gaijin actually gave them the 20+ Gs they do

[nimble dove]

I see

[whole minnow]

Otherwise type 81 is the better strela really for Japan but also like 11.3

[nimble dove]

At least I didn't waste my missiles and did no damage or lost it

[novel sleet]

when it was 10.0 it was great at 11.3 its ok but was much better back then

[whole minnow]

I mean vs slower things of course better but even now it still slaps

Justin plays I think made a vid recently on it and for a IR hit like 6 to 8km shots i think

[nimble dove]

BILL damage on russian tanks is inconsistent

Sometimes 1 shot, sometimes more than 1

[novel sleet]

the closer u put the atgm to top of turret it the greater chance of 1 shot to ammo or overpresure

[nimble dove]

I did that but ERA on top of TURMS ate my ATGM and only damaging the gun breach

Need another 1 shot to kill him

[novel sleet]

no, the breach ate the dmg

and 2 shots to kill something is still great

[nimble dove]

However I did one shot T-80B

[nimble dove]

Yes still better

[whole minnow]

Better than 2Bs

2Bs are shit BILL just aim for the side of turret

Goes through the top side and ammo racks

[rose mesa]

Shoot on the sides of turret to kill crew and ammo

[marble monolith]

any tips on aiming the gun on the j35xs?

recently picked it up, ive managed to learn somewhat how to go ahead and aim it, but i still miss quite a bit, (ive grinded america top tier, ussr til 10.0 and now grinding sweden air+ground and german ground)

[loud fox]

its a gun you have to practice with

its in a really strange spot and its shell velocity is slower than other guns around your br

[nimble dove]

Will try that later

[humble lake]

FUCK SWEDISH AIR MANNN
This tech tree is so cursed that i dont even wanna play anymore and im SO CLOSE to the gripen
look at all these shit planes?
i fucking have the prem plane and im not even playing it
WHY?
CUZ IT SUCKS ASS
i used it to get the first viggen
aj37
then NEVER AGAIN
played it
and now that it cannot even bomb a base,
its literall worthless
f104s taf is better for f sake
let that sink in for a minute

[cinder sapphire]

The ground attack dedicated strike fighter with more hardpoints is better?

Never?!?!?!?

Crazy that

[unreal hollow]

AJS and drakens are really good

[humble lake]

anyone saying draken is good just dont know what good means

at this br f5e is good, f8e is good, mig21bis is good, draken is NOT GOOD

yes u might be a god and play it and dont feel like the shit doesnt suck

but the plane IS JUST BAD

both of them by the way

[unreal hollow]

Planes are far from bad

Good missiles and flight performance

[humble lake]

good missiles

flight performance

[unreal hollow]

?

[humble lake]

nothing good about aim9j when all it takes to dodge it is pressing cm button

nothing good about flight performance when you are the worst delta wing in energy bleed

[unreal hollow]

So you just suck playing with deltas

And 9Js are very good for the br

[humble lake]

first of all are we speaking about xs or d

i will make my point based on this

[unreal hollow]

Both are good

[humble lake]

d variant dont have cm which means instant death as soon as a aim9d, aim9l, r60 is coming in your way

which all of these can happen in that br

[unreal hollow]

So you dont know how to play the plane

[humble lake]

xs variant is in the same br as ja37c

[unreal hollow]

Ok

[humble lake]

which is just ridiculous

[unreal hollow]

XS is better than the C

[humble lake]

?

j35xs do not have radar missiles / j37c has radar missiles
j35xs do not have rws / j37c has rws
j35xs has non pd very bad radar / j37c has pd&tws radar
j35xs has bad gun placement / j37c has VERY GOOD gun placement
j35xs and j37c has nearly the same speed
j37c bleeds less speed in turns
j37c has quadruple the amount of countermeasures

in what world xs is better?

[unreal hollow]

XS has a better FM

XS has a good engine

XS has the same missiles effectively

[rose mesa]

"VERY GOOD" gun placement my ass

[unreal hollow]

Skyflashes are a headon missile so very situational

XS has better gun placement

XS has tracers

[humble lake]

bro its just below the plane looking straight forward

[unreal hollow]

Fr it sucks

[humble lake]

ja37c has ballistic computer

[unreal hollow]

So?

[humble lake]

WDYM SO

[unreal hollow]

You need a radar lock for that

[humble lake]

which is easy

[unreal hollow]

Its a useless feature

XS is much easier to hit shots

[humble lake]

u guys are delusional

[rose mesa]

dont think you are the guy to say that

[humble lake]

trying to defend a point which is just false is what you guys are doing

nitpicking the facts

[unreal hollow]

Thats what you are doing

[humble lake]

just the fact that ja37c has radar missiles is gamechanging

what more can i say

[unreal hollow]

Short range fox-1 wow

Changes nothing

[humble lake]

which is infinitely better than head oning someone

[unreal hollow]

Only better thing the 37C has is the radar set

[humble lake]

bro j37c is just better technologically

how can it be justified that these 2 planes are on the same br

[unreal hollow]

Because XS is just as good if not better

[humble lake]

please give me the thing you smoke

you are talking like defending a dictator

[humble lake]

btw isnt ja37c also a delta wing? i really dont get u

[mossy pawn]

it is

very big canards tho

[cinder sapphire]

So you're telling me the jet that replaced the Draken is better?

Bro that's craaaaaaaaaazy

[humble lake]

ISNT ITTT

i dont know what these guys are thinking

[cinder sapphire]

I was being sarcastic

[humble lake]

are u know

[cinder sapphire]

I am now

[humble lake]

good

[cinder sapphire]

Because we know how to spell here

I don't really like either

[humble lake]

ok let us debate a bit more, i find this more fun than playing wt

[cinder sapphire]

But I'd rather play the Draken due to certain aspects

Early Skyflash (RB71 Base) are just shit

[humble lake]

i just want to ask, you see a guy coming towards you, what do you do?

[cinder sapphire]

When you get RB71 (DF) then they're good

[humble lake]

i find them useable in close range

5-7km range they are very good

[cinder sapphire]

37C is what?

[humble lake]

hits 70-80% of the time

[cinder sapphire]

12.0 now?

[humble lake]

11.3

along with the xs

[cinder sapphire]

So old F-4 BR

[humble lake]

same br

[cinder sapphire]

If the British F-4's were still 11.3, Sweden would get the inferior Skyflash

You also can't call a Skyflash good until you try SuperTEMP

[humble lake]

man f this dorito

[polar karma]

So...Sweden is my second country to go to after i choose Russia for starter. Mmm what top tier do you guys suggest me to get first ? like consider it as first priority.

And also i need guidance and tips about the tanks in this country

[viral wraith]

wdym "what toptier"

Vehicle? Air or ground?

[loud fox]

The j35d can pull so much aoa that you can turn your engine away from the missile and make it loose track

I'm a big fan of the delta wing play style

[humble lake]

there is no playstyle to draken

[loud fox]

um yes there is?

[humble lake]

u cannot gain speed above 400km/h when turning

which is just ridiculous with the engine it has

[loud fox]

dont get slow

thats begging to get smoked

[humble lake]

bro if u dont turn the enemy turning with u will get behind u

end

u loose if u turn

u loose if u dont turn

i dont want an unaware hunter plane

all planes can do that

[loud fox]

sweden might not be the nation for you then

[humble lake]

viggens are so good

AT THE SAME BR

[unreal hollow]

nah viggens are pretty bad

[humble lake]

maybe for u draken lover guy

[loud fox]

10.3 you can fight f-104

the f-104 can do NOTHING if a 9j is launched sub 2.2 km

[humble lake]

hahahah how do u expect to win against f104?

turn?

he just goes away

[unreal hollow]

you know the draken is faster?

with good missiles

[humble lake]

not after turning

[unreal hollow]

also after turning

[humble lake]

it takes 5 years for you to get your speed back

[unreal hollow]

the F-104 looses a ton of speed

[humble lake]

why am i even defending f104 against draken

i just want to oppose you i guess

bacause draken is bad

[unreal hollow]

drakens are good

[humble lake]

keep telling yourself that

[humble lake]

the sudden mind clearance xD

[polar karma]

Ground

Sorry for the confusion

[viral wraith]

For Sweden?

What do you have unlocked?

[polar karma]

Correct

[polar karma]

Still on the starter tank

im just started the grind

[viral wraith]

you have to grind the whole tree to reach top tier

(you can skip the TD line optionally)

Strv 122s are good

very good*

[polar karma]

I know, thats why i should know which top tier i should prioritize frist like in Russia i choose BVM as my first priority to get

[loud fox]

the 9040 bill is quite fun if you are willing to grind a whole line for it

[polar karma]

The swedish is more organised than i thought ngl

Okay then, STRV 122 and B+ will be the first top tier i should get

What would be the second? I supposs its the SPAA correct?

Or the Leo or CV 901?

[knotty yew]

ItO 90, 2nd best top tier AA

Leo 2A6 should be the last one, 122s are all better

[polar karma]

I see, alright then

Top priority, STRV 122s

Second till last, ItO 90M, CV901 and Leo 2A6

[viral wraith]

I'd personally first do Strv 122s and gripen, then 2A6, then SPAA

[polar karma]

Is there anything i should know regarding swedish tanks? Like.. Tips or what to be aware of? I do were told that swedish playstyle is snipers

[viral wraith]

you can't rely on your armor 99% of the time

you need to shoot first

[novel sleet]

there is no point of gettin 2a6 for top tier 122s are enough

[polar karma]

Noted. Hopefullt Swedish tanks do are good on Sniping

Shell velocity and penetration

What should i aware on the low tier btw? And when does the fun began? Like.. The BR

[novel sleet]

3.7-40

[viral wraith]

4.0/3.7 gets you consistent 5+ kills

I always use it to do my wagers

[polar karma]

compared to the russians, is swedish rangefinder faster for its ww2 vehicles?

[novel sleet]

why would that be the case?

[polar karma]

Just curious

[novel sleet]

its the same for all nations

[mossy pawn]

your answer to all this is right fuckin there mate

"maybe for you"

[humble lake]

the topic was viggen vs draken

[mossy pawn]

everybody plays differently, as long as they enjoy the draken and you enjoy the viggen its all good

[humble lake]

viggen is better both in real life and in game technologically and loadout wise

done

its the plane that replaced draken for a reason

[mossy pawn]

that really doesnt say a lot when it comes to wt

[humble lake]

what irks me is that ja37c id dame br with draken

with all the upgrades it has this is just ridiculous

and now draken cant even take out a base

[mossy pawn]

eurofighters are what replaced the replacement for the replacement for the replacement for the replacement for the replacement for the replacement for the replacement for the replacement of spitfires yet the spitfire still beats it in a dogfight

[humble lake]

j35xs should AT MOST be 10.7

and j35d shoukd be 9.7

[humble lake]

no? its dead to a radar missile

wouldnt even be a fight

[mossy pawn]

what part of "in a dogfight" did you miss?

i should specify tho

in a gunfight

[humble lake]

why would a jet that is made for jet combat try to turnfight a spitfire?

[mossy pawn]

with HMD and high off boresight fox-2s itd be difficult to say

[humble lake]

bro are u smoking?

[mossy pawn]

thats not the point i made

[humble lake]

spitfire wouldnt even see nothing and its dead

i dont get your point

what are u trying to say

[mossy pawn]

you wanna get on customs rn and fight me with any jet in my spit?

im saying that your "it replaced it for a reason" doesnt have to mean a whole lot

[mossy pawn]

draken fighting sabres 😭

[viral wraith]

draken at 9.7 what

[humble lake]

in a downtier that is impossible to get, mirage f1 or f4s is also god tier

no one plays that br compared to 10.0

so downtier is pretty unlikely

[mossy pawn]

😭

[humble lake]

but when it happens it should stomp anyways

cuz that is what downtier means in this gane

am i delusional to want a br that in a downtier its powerful, in its br its neutral, in an uptier its bad?

cuz f5 always wins against draken

so even in downtier draken is just bad

what u guys are trying to defend is bad for the nation in the game

but u guys say unfair bad plane is good lets keep it

[mossy pawn]

"your point is invalid because moving it down in br makes the tree better" 😭

[humble lake]

yes

i dont know, i have good kd in draken and it feels like shit to play

i try so hard to not have 0.1 kd

is what im trying to say

[mossy pawn]

skill issue?

[humble lake]

for f sake this plane goes against f14, IT DOESNT HAVE RWS

tell me 1 more plane like this

[humble lake]

yea trying hard to not die and having more than 1 kd ratio is skill issue, read for f sake

i feel like im arguing with a wall

[polar karma]

If Russians had T-55 AM/1 for the premium that i got suggested on to buy, what Premium i should get in Swedish?

[viral wraith]

Leopard 1A5NO, VIDAR and Christian 2 are good at least

[mossy pawn]

https://youtu.be/h377GWpI6UI?si=dZ9Quv1P-IRiXEt_&t=604 me when the

the draken can kill basically anything in the first turn

the problem is that you cant move it down in br because of that

when you have more dogfights because worse/less missiles its gonna dominate A LOT more

so it kinda needs to stay where it is

[loud fox]

You have the super power to run away from an f-5

[humble lake]

cv90105 is broken in open maps, in close range/uptiers not so much

vidar is just bonkers over all

thermal sight and laser rangefinder at 8.0 is like technological dominance.

christian 2 is not that different from any lep2, but then again, its a lep2 so good

[polar karma]

Imma test drive it tonight

Hopefullt its good as T-55 AM/1

[vague mesa]

christian 2

[knotty yew]

Funnily enough the 90105 is far better in close range than the CT-CV105

[rose mesa]

Stop coping and get good

[humble lake]

im just saying it should be lower than ja37c

xs variant i mean

d variant.. i dont even know

[gleaming solstice]

when did the VEAK 40 loose it´s proximity fuses?

[unreal hollow]

a few patches ago

2 br changes I think

it was a nice buff

[gleaming solstice]

-.- those things were golden for AA

[rose mesa]

buff?

[unreal hollow]

it became the best 7.7 AA

from a decent 8.7 one

[gleaming solstice]

might be true but if all you get are uptiers it´s quite frustrating

[unreal hollow]

It still does pretty well in them

[rose mesa]

non proxy innacurate 40MMs dont do well in 8,7 without proxy

[polar karma]

Tested out Christian and CV90

HOLY FUCK THIS TWO IS JUST WOW

The CV got me more

Its just...

Chef kiss

It has the speed on turret rotation of an Abrams

Fast rangefinder

And most importantly... The scope zoom is huge

[cosmic dew]

Standard lrf

[polar karma]

lrf?

Man.. Between CV and Christian, idk which one to buy

[rose mesa]

Laser Range Finder

[rose mesa]

CV cuz it isnt copy paste

[cosmic dew]

I’ve heard fantastic things about all the 2a4s tho

[polar karma]

Welp, i guess ill start Sweden soon

Hopefullt its lower tier is not bad as it seems

And plus, im surprised to see how small the swedish tech tree are

[polar karma]

Wait.. Christian is copy paste?

Let me guess.. It copy leo

[rose mesa]

Just a 2a4 lol

[polar karma]

Well.. Honestly i enjoy the Christian more than CV90

I mistaken CV for Christian for a bit there

[rose mesa]

personally i like the cv more than a 2a4

[knotty yew]

You already get 2 2A4s in the tech tree, a third isn't necessary (also less smoke)

[humble lake]

become the bush. No one shall be able to be a better bush.

ikv103 and pvkv2 especially good bushes

[unreal hollow]

Best 10.3

[humble lake]

where should i put the better cheesewedge

[rose mesa]

in the empty slot?

[humble lake]

+1

[rose mesa]

wdym "+1"

[humble lake]

ur correct

and i did that

[cosmic dew]

#1025516636792434698

[lilac wind]

Whoops sorry wrong channel

[untold mural]

Any one get any advice on how to play the j 35 what I do is fly low but things like f14s and stuff just seem to pick me off very easily with there better missiles

[loud fox]

The premium one is a little more tricky now but I have had luck flanking super wide and coming in from an odd angle

[ember lily]

Strv 105 is not fun, nor good IMO, 104 more fun IMO

Wait, that was in fucking june

[scarlet pelican]

What should I grind first in the 6.7 lineup

[rose mesa]

Pbv

[novel sleet]

late response ik, but i wuld say 104 and 105 are good , i prefer 105 more bc its apfds can upfp t-series tanks and it does great post pen. Gets gen 1 which comes in handy and for some reason blazer era loves to eat shells

got nukes in them multiple times

[hollow sentinel]

How much pain is Sweden 3.0 through 6.3

[novel sleet]

3.7-4.0 is great, 5.0-5.7 is good, 6.3 is only the shity Charioteer

[unreal hollow]

Kinda bad

[loud fox]

few gems along the way

[scarlet pelican]

I'm in a great deal of pain with the 6.7 lineup

Might skip it entirely with my CV90105

[lunar estuary]

this is from my friend, which jet should he research, (he loves cas so the j21ra jet wont do for him)

[viral wraith]

SK60

[lunar estuary]

so i told him but he said why not go for vampire

[viral wraith]

I have no idea how good/bad the vampire is

I'd still prefer the SK60

[ember lily]

Vampire is shit

[lunar estuary]

but according to my friend it is a good turn fighter? he is as confused as i am

[ember lily]

Only thing it has going for it

[lunar estuary]

alright thanks

[loud fox]

It's so ungodly slow

Guns are good

[lilac wind]

What is the best way to play with the premium j35xs?

[ember lily]

I flank in it

[gleaming solstice]

Use the terrain to flank and don´t turn to much. The first turn is awesome but you will loose speed in an instance

[ember lily]

^

[scarlet pelican]

I'm tired of 6.7, how far you think I can uptier my pbv and zsu-57-2

[ember lily]

Maybe 7.7

I'd not take them any higher

[scarlet pelican]

Pbv I'm not too worried about, it's just a less versatile bmp

But I'm thinking the zsu might actually benefit from less heavy tanks

I'm very tempted to stretch it out to 8.0 once I have the 7.7 strv, already have ikv-91

[polar karma]

Guys, for swedish, which top tier line i should go for as first priority??? i just got the rank 1 td the ikv

[ember lily]

I'd say 122 and Finnish line

[polar karma]

Alright then, 122 line will be first priority,

[rose mesa]

Grind all lines simultaneously

[rose mesa]

As a swede please don’t call it “the ikv” that’s basically the same thing as calling something “the tank”

[ember lily]

The ikv

Would "ikv:en" be better

[polar karma]

Sorry

[polar karma]

Current progress

[rose mesa]

Just say m/something

[rose mesa]

No problem

[ember lily]

The m/something

[polar karma]

Test drive the BT-42

CHRIST SAKE THAT TURRET TRAVERSE

[ember lily]

Its very bad

[polar karma]

Im gonna grind the rank 1 and first line up of rank 2 via arcade

[ember lily]

Go for T-28, its good IMO

[cosmic dew]

And imo

[polar karma]

Just got the BT-42, wow this thing is a fucking fun

Any further tips about BT-42 ?

[unreal hollow]

Nuke a plane with it

Satisfying as fuck

[inner rover]

Of course the new Finnish kv-1 is not undertiered

I would've loved to play another OP kv-1

But now it will just be ok

Vk 3002 can punch straight through

[ember lily]

KW-1C is same br

[inner rover]

The cannon on it is MUCH better.

[ember lily]

Yea

[inner rover]

Zis-5 is good but even on the normal kv-1 zis-5 it's hard to destroy all targets.

The Pz 4 H has no problem penning the new Finnish kv-1 even angled.

[chrome badge]

IME, KV1 Zis is more of a bunker or cap holder

If someone rushes you, you can easily take them out

[ember lily]

IME?

[chrome badge]

In My Experience

I've played the Zis5

L11 is better BR for BR

Less weakspots

Even tho thr gun is worse

[vague mesa]

kv-1c is 5.0

oh right i forgot this pos is also 5.0 for some reason

[cosmic dew]

Ma boy using the same obscure abbreviations as me

[chrome badge]

😄

[rose mesa]

how is the STRV 105?

[rose mesa]

looks like it

why is the the ground grind so long

[ember lily]

mid/shit IMO

no way i accidentally deleted my message

[novel sleet]

i am fan of 105 love the dart on it

[vague mesa]

bad relative to other 9.3

[novel sleet]

relative to cvfin is great

[ember lily]

yes, because thats a piece of shit

[vague mesa]

comparing only 9.3 mbt

Can't say 105 is good and pull up atgm carriers

[novel sleet]

well didint specify what vehicle

[vague mesa]

this was to every single 9.3 mbt fyi

[buoyant hare]

Too slow

[graceful lynx]

which 5.0 vehichle do i get first

[unreal hollow]

Dt

[stuck brook]

You need the delat torn. 3 second reload is great

[graceful lynx]

Should I get 5.3 lineup or just skip to 5.7

[stuck brook]

5.7 better lineup

[chrome badge]

Germany has no real 5.3 lineup

Better play 5.0/4.7/4.3 until you get 5.7

[ember lily]

This is litteraly called IKEA

[chrome badge]

I'm tired boss

[ember lily]

Sleep smh

[chrome badge]

Cant xD

[graceful lynx]

do i get strv 74 or t 34 85 first

[whole minnow]

T-34-85 is better in most ways

But Strv 74 does get a pretty decent filler and APDS round but way worse armor and not great otherwise

[rose mesa]

15 degrees depression

[whole minnow]

Yes but also made of paper for the entire tank and not the best of other things either also gun depression might help a but no armor so like anything eats the front turret

[rose mesa]

Armor is bad yes but I get a lot of tigers and such that shoot my cupola and don’t do shit

[ember lily]

T-34

[inner rover]

FInnish KV-1 going to 4.7 let's go

[ember lily]

Very epic

[stuck brook]

https://tenor.com/view/world-of-tanks-wot-battle-tank-tanks-gif-22482348

[graceful lynx]

which do i research next

[ember lily]

SAAB

[rose mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/strv-stridsvagn-103-strv103-sunday-gif-22711273

[mossy matrix]

hi which 103a round is best

[ember lily]

M/66 iirc

[mossy matrix]

ok thanks

should i get the 104 or the t-55 first

or the itpsv

[ember lily]

T-55

Then leo 2 marksman

[rose mesa]

104 is very mid

good dart but bad in all other aspects

[mossy matrix]

i can imagine

the mobility is sad and the armor is sadder

[polar karma]

Whats next guys ?

[polar karma]

Help?

Imma go T-28

[ember lily]

T-28 best

[polar karma]

Is the SPAA worth ? I remember Bawz tell me to complete everything before move to next rank in Swedishh

Like...grind everything

[viral wraith]

Spj fm

Super fun and actually pretty good

[graceful lynx]

what should i use for 5.7 lineup

[ember lily]

All 5.7 5.3 and maybe even some 5.0

[graceful lynx]

which 5.3

[rose mesa]

Pt

[cosmic dew]

looking forward to getting back to sweden after america and germany

[mossy matrix]

delat torn

[polar karma]

Tips to play the Recoiless gun TD of Swedish line?

Rank 2

[stuck brook]

Which one you on about?

[polar karma]

Spj FM 43/44 @stuck brook

[stuck brook]

OOOOHHHHB the trumpet

It’s amazing

Don’t try to use it at range as its drop off is bad

You have a machine gun, it will get you kills

(Use it)

[polar karma]

So no sniping?

[mossy matrix]

brawling

[stuck brook]

I mean unless you are good at guessing ranges

But the drop off kinda messes with my sense of range

[chrome badge]

Also 50mm of armor frontally

So 50cals and autocannons cant do jackshit unless flanked

[polar karma]

I'll go to SPJ after I got the T-28

[viral wraith]

spj fm is easily better than T-28

you can one shot everything

T-28 is so bad

[ember lily]

T-28 is good tho

[viral wraith]

massive target, slow, half of the crew dies on first hit

[ember lily]

You have a punchy gun and i don't find it slow

[viral wraith]

spj fm has punchier gun and doesn't have the downsides of the T-28

[mossy matrix]

t-28 is fun

[graceful lynx]

what should i research for 6.7 and in what order

[ember lily]

Pdv then bkan

[graceful lynx]

should i bother with the charioteer

[ember lily]

ehh, not really, kinda mid

[graceful lynx]

how bout the spaa

[unreal hollow]

AA is meh

[stuck brook]

All Swedish AA is good but it lacks from 5.0-7.7

Don’t have much choice really

[rose mesa]

A lot of them are more anti-tank than aa

[inner bough]

true. the anti is one of my favorite aa's in game but i think ive killed less than a dozen planes with it haha

[mossy matrix]

i love this

[unreal hollow]

Leo 2 marksman is strong

[ember lily]

yes

only SPAA i ever got a nuke it

[unreal hollow]

My most played tank lol

[ember lily]

"tank"

[buoyant hare]

It’s an excellent SPAA, completely useless at being a TD

[stuck brook]

whaa

i am astounded you made such a horrific comment

how dare you talk about my boy like that

he was given an apds belt for a reason

[mossy matrix]

yes yes totally

[mossy matrix]

is the t72 good

[stuck brook]

Yes

Although that whole br is kinda cooked

I’d steer clear of it for a while cause you’re just gonna be seeing 2s38’s the entire time

[buoyant hare]

I’ve got a three 9.3 and then a 9.7 SPAA

[mossy matrix]

but its better than before the br changes right?

youre not going to run into leo 2a4

[stuck brook]

Yes

Definitely

[mossy matrix]

alright

[buoyant hare]

Yall think the Christian II is gonna go on sale?

[ember lily]

most likely

[chrome badge]

if rank 7 goes, yeah.

[buoyant hare]

I hope the Xbox sales didn’t happen before the PC ones then

[whole minnow]

GL for xbox pack sales as a Xbox player myself 99.9 we won't get pack sales

[buoyant hare]

Yeah

[mental fulcrum]

https://forum.warthunder.com/t/leopard-2a6nl-and-leopard-2a6-fin-s-models-need-to-be-swapped/175329
Silly

[ember lily]

they're the same tank tho

its also spavenger so i don't trust it

[mental fulcrum]

its just the mudflaps being wrong

thats all

easy to fix

[mental fulcrum]

and its swapped

waretagarasu is cool

[gentle fulcrum]

So boys, whats the best 9.3 with sweden because i heard serveral opinions ?

[ember lily]

T-72 IMO

[gentle fulcrum]

Unfortunatly they have only one so not quite a lineup

[ember lily]

ohh lineup

T-72, strv 105, CV9030, T-55M, leo 2 marksman, A32A, strv 104, thats at least what i use

[gentle fulcrum]

Hmmm i like that lineup idea dont have the leo 1a5 tho

[ember lily]

i don't either

[buoyant hare]

There’s no leo in that lineup I don’t think

[gentle fulcrum]

Ahhh u mean the itpsv marksman thingy

[ember lily]

the leo 2 marksman

[buoyant hare]

Makes sense ig

[ember lily]

it uses a 2a4 hull so

[buoyant hare]

But I thought that was a Gepard with a 2a4 hull + engine

[ember lily]

nope

2a4 hull with a marksman turret

[buoyant hare]

Ah

[mental fulcrum]

Type 87 has a similar turret like the Gepard but it's its own design

[knotty yew]

I'd much rather use the HKP9 over ANOTHER Centurion (that's worse)

[ember lily]

i'd rater take the l3 over that thing

[hybrid parrot]

Is the IVK-91-105 worth the grind, and is it even much better than it's predecessor?

[stuck brook]

That br is kinda hell

[stuck brook]

It’s alright

[ember lily]

not worth IMO

i dispise it

[buoyant hare]

I hate the HKP9 and both Cents lol

[ember lily]

i like cents so i may be biased

[rose mesa]

I only like the 81 and 101

[ember lily]

those are mid IMO

[unreal hollow]

the 104 i dislike, 105 is good just wish for a better round

81 on top

[ember lily]

should the 105 get m900 or smth?

[unreal hollow]

would be much better

or 33

[ember lily]

i'd take dm63 over 33 any day

[unreal hollow]

33 all the way

actually working round

[ember lily]

dm63 is good~~, you're just bad~~

[unreal hollow]

one of those is true

and im not good

[ember lily]

nah, both are true

[rose mesa]

Doesn’t it have that

Or something very similar

M/80C?

[unreal hollow]

63

Ass round

[rose mesa]

Is 33 better than 63?????

[unreal hollow]

Yes

[whole minnow]

How is DM33 better than DM63 🤔

[unreal hollow]

It does damage

[whole minnow]

DM63 does as well

Love it on the TAM-2C and other things with it does dmg as well

[buoyant hare]

How should I grind the SAAB105’s modifications rn I’m just slamming all the ground ai I see

[unreal hollow]

that and slam bombers

[rose mesa]

My enemies are usually braindead so it also works as a fighter

[mossy matrix]

strv 105 or strf9040b

[knotty yew]

9040B

The 105 compared to most other things at the same BR is just worse

[unreal hollow]

Eh I mean the 9040 is just worse than the 9030

And 9.7 has no lineup

[rose mesa]

??

[ember lily]

musa with his bad takes again smh my head

[buoyant hare]

wtf are you on

[buoyant hare]

What is going on with the new CV90Mk.4

It’s so different from the BAE version

[unreal hollow]

Its a 30mm with spikes

[buoyant hare]

It’s meant to be a 35 I thought

[unreal hollow]

Idk but the 30 is better so hope I remember right

[rose mesa]

How is it better

[ember lily]

because his takes are shit

[unreal hollow]

The sound is bearablr

[rose mesa]

[unreal hollow]

Also less ammo

Otherwise pretty much the same

[novel sleet]

there is 2 versions of it, with 30 and with 35mm which also has hard aps

[rose mesa]

Gaijin logic to add the one Sweden won’t use

[buoyant hare]

Yeah, but the 35 gets a APS

[buoyant hare]

Yeah, it’s a dev server so I hope they fix it but knowing gaijin it’ll somehow get more inaccurate

[lunar estuary]

best plane to grind through rank 4? Or do i continue to use the t18B

[unreal hollow]

the 109 is the best for mid tiers

[lunar estuary]

what abt the other one in its folder

havent heard much abt it

[unreal hollow]

the G-6 is one of the best 109s for cas

but for air only its also good

[lunar estuary]

okay thanks

[lunar estuary]

just got it, now how do i play it? Sideclimb?

[chrome badge]

Depends

109s overall have an extremely high climbrate for rhe BRs SPADED

B&Z/energy fight and side climb stock

Spaded sideclimb just a little to catch sideclimbers offguard

[lunar estuary]

alright bet

[chrome badge]

If you up friday or saturday we might be able to hit some games

109 G-6 is the best 109 for BR honestly

Or atleast the most universal

[lunar estuary]

yeah i can do that

[lunar estuary]

should’ve specified i got the g-2

[chrome badge]

Same thing

[lunar estuary]

oh alright

every match is a yak-3 jumpscare

[dusky meadow]

what do? talisman the 21bis or JA37?

[chrome badge]

Depends

MiG-21 is more aggresive but watch out for airspeed.

Viggens and Jaktviggens are also aggressive but less and have better low speed flight perf.

[mossy matrix]

i for some reason like the cv9030fin

(prob because i have never played vehicles like that before)

[chrome badge]

Prob bc sweden barely has any IFVs at 9.7 that has a bushmaster

[buoyant hare]

It’s absolutely miserable in 99% of situations

[chrome badge]

Whats the fucking point of that?

He said he likes it.

Never said it was good

[nocturne sedge]

Cv9035 Vidar and mi28a?

[mossy matrix]

might be true but its fun

[nocturne sedge]

J35a cv9035 leo1a5no srtf40 t72

[novel sleet]

dont forget missle spaa is also 9.7

[nocturne sedge]

Yeah that thing

[buoyant hare]

The Lvrbv isn’t great, I prefer the Leopard at 8.7 tbh

[nocturne sedge]

Same

That’s why I didn’t mention it

[mossy matrix]

the leo2 marksman is great

anti everything

[nocturne sedge]

What a great “spaa” the spaa that can destroy planes helicopter tanks boats planets and anything else

[mossy matrix]

most accurate leo2 marksman description ive ever heard

[buoyant hare]

It’s just kinda anti existence

[nocturne sedge]

Anti matter

[mossy matrix]

should i get the vidar or the cv90105

[unreal hollow]

90105

[nocturne sedge]

Both

[mental fulcrum]

Lol

[graceful lynx]

which do i get and i what order

[mental fulcrum]

Spaag

Get Veak 40

[nocturne sedge]

Spaa then t54 then the strv

Next rank get the marksman leopard as soon as possible

[mental fulcrum]

Having aa is a importart to prevent cas from dominating you

[nocturne sedge]

The leopard 2 marksman is a great aa and td

[mental fulcrum]

The Oerlik is a good Anti Everything yes

Type 87 spaag

[nocturne sedge]

I’m talking itspv leopard

[mental fulcrum]

Oh wow, didn't know

It's not like it uses the 35 mm Oerlikon KDA cannon

A good anti everything gun

Crazy stuff right here

[nocturne sedge]

Two of them also at 8.7 with a 1500 hp on a leopard 2 chassis

Almost never fights 9.7 also

[mental fulcrum]

You do know all 35 Oerlik have a 2 turret config or are you this dumb

Type 87, Gepard,
Leo, Chieftan 8.7 (8.3 for Gepard and Type 87)

[nocturne sedge]

Yeah I knew that but I’m running on zero sleep so I am not gonna be the smartest rn

[mental fulcrum]

Lol

Now for the Dutch Cheetah to be added

I need more 35 oerliks

[nocturne sedge]

What is that

[mental fulcrum]

Gepard model C not accepted by the Germans

[nocturne sedge]

Is that like a Gerard

[mental fulcrum]

Better radars

[nocturne sedge]

Why not accepted

They should add the itspv 90 (marksman turret t55 chassis

[unreal hollow]

Cent>T-54

Get cent, veak and S-tank

[mental fulcrum]

S tanko

[unreal hollow]

Oh its foldered

I forgor

[mental fulcrum]

Cheaper, that's a good thing for that silly

[unreal hollow]

I guess

[nocturne sedge]

What nations does Sweden get

Ik Sweden but do they have Finland and Norway and all those

That’s what I mean by nations like mini nations inside

[ember lily]

Finland, Norway and Denmark iirc

[nocturne sedge]

Is Dutch and Denmark the same

I’m running on no sleep so I’m very confused rn

[unreal hollow]

Dutch is the netherlands

Amd sweden doesnt get that

[rose mesa]

😭

[polar karma]

Reason I didn't stay longer there to get myself atleast to the late ww2 vehicle

Is this..

Things felt more slower, make sense since I revert back to ww1-2 vehicles from modern era of Russia

And action seems to be less on that era too.

Question is, how should I get myself to lock on and continued my progress there?

Rn I'm still on Rank I, slowly reaching towards Rank II

[dusty python]

premiums

slide that card, glubbo

[lunar estuary]

loving this almost spaded 109-g6

should i get the saab-105g after i get the sk60b?

Missiles at 8.3 kinda crazy

[mental fulcrum]

Manual aimed missiles go brr

[ember lily]

they're 9B's

[mental fulcrum]

You get AIM-9B at 8.0 with the Hunter premiums

[lunar estuary]

crazy

[ember lily]

8.0 hunter? what

[lunar estuary]

swiss hunter

[ember lily]

9.7

[lunar estuary]

wait then what hunter

[mental fulcrum]

I was talking about the Sk60 with manual aimed missiles you

[ember lily]

idk, but a sea hawk has 9B at 8.0

[mental fulcrum]

I know aim-9bs can exist at 8.3 yet some planes looking at you F86F-30 doesn't get it at 8.3

[mental fulcrum]

meant sea hawk
premium sea hawks go brr

[lime berry]

What's the best premium jet for Sweden? For new/intermediate jet players.

[unreal hollow]

for jets you hope and pray

pretty much all prems are bad

[lunar estuary]

how are the rb24s

[unreal hollow]

Its a 9B if you have used them

Works at like 500-1500m mainly if the target is asleep

[chrome badge]

Or stalled out targets

Or big ass prop bombers

Gotta love bullying B-29 and Tu-4 with this one simple trip

[ocean wharf]

god i love the Sherman III/IV

hands down best premium

[chrome badge]

Dont forget SAV!

Literally best lineup with two tanks

[ocean wharf]

im not, i just cant buy it yet 😭

[mossy matrix]

is the 121 any different from a regular 2a4

[novel sleet]

gets dozer blade and no heat

[buoyant hare]

Not really

[buoyant hare]

Very nice for the no HEAT issues lol

[ember lily]

no

gets HE instead of HEAT-FS tho

[ember lily]

regular 2a4 gets dozer blade

[unreal hollow]

Gets HE so by a technicality its the best leo for 10.7

[cinder sapphire]

Stock APFSDS and gets a 120 HE round over HEATFS

[chrome badge]

sweden OP fe

*fr

[chrome badge]

@lethal canopy

[lethal canopy]

what

[lethal canopy]

yes

[brave helm]

Do I get the j35xs I just got the vidar and thinking of either getting a british jet but idk or swedish jet

[buoyant hare]

XS

[rain roost]

Any outstanding vehicles on at like 6.7 and up?

[novel sleet]

pbv 501

[buoyant hare]

STRV 122B+

[rain roost]

the funny periscope guy

[buoyant hare]

122B PLSS

[rain roost]

is it the funny periscope guy?

[buoyant hare]

That is

[rain roost]

[buoyant hare]

It’s foldered with the 122A

[burnt yoke]

How do i get out of the hellhole called swedish 6.7

[chrome badge]

That's the neat part, you don't.

[burnt yoke]

how

Luckily i just got the strv 81, tho the solid shot experience isn't the best

Also, is the strv 103 any good?, its practically one of the only reasons im grinding the meatball tree

[novel sleet]

no

[chrome badge]

Depends

[burnt yoke]

aw shucks

[chrome badge]

If you are in the peek situation at the peek BR at the peek map yes

Or else its mid or shit at best

[burnt yoke]

At least the 8.0 light tank above the IKV is semi good, right ?

[novel sleet]

the ikv 105?

[burnt yoke]

the USH thingy

[chrome badge]

IKV91

[burnt yoke]

the ikv's seem too big and too lightly armored lol

[novel sleet]

its good just dont get seen

[burnt yoke]

I hope ur right

i've got ptsd with the pbv 501, not a bad tank but the gun depression got me killed so so many times

[novel sleet]

well u r gona have other problems with ush

[burnt yoke]

Also, the veak 40 gets radar right?

[novel sleet]

ye

[burnt yoke]

im going to enjoy killing dum CAS players so much with it

tho i heard it used to have proxy rounds

[novel sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/look-how-they-massacred-my-boy-meme-massacre-kill-wrecked-gif-14452160

[burnt yoke]

True

at least the bkan has em though

[novel sleet]

every spg has them so nothin special

[burnt yoke]

but not every spg has a 4 sec reload lol

[novel sleet]

type 99 is infinitely better

[burnt yoke]

Its as the same br?

though nothing will make me hate sweden more than getting constantly paired with germany

[novel sleet]

no but there are much better spg at higher br which do things better

no turret and easy ammo is pain

[cinder sapphire]

Also not being HMG proof is a downside

[buoyant hare]

Brute force idfk

[buoyant hare]

Actually, that thing used to be insane

[burnt yoke]

is it any good now?

its still got a usable radar (compared to the m163's lol)

[buoyant hare]

I lost my mind trying to use it once, I despise it personally but others prolly like it

[burnt yoke]

why tho

[buoyant hare]

I just couldn’t get the rounds to connect, this was in a more competitive game mode tho