Italian cas/fighters? | Bawz' Bunker | Page 1

sullen dock Jul 22, 2023, 5:54 PM

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So I've started grinding Italy and I've noticed the planes are pretty terrible at least at low tiers...
What planes in the tech tree and premiums should I get to speed along the progression? looking for cas/fighters

sharp shoal Jul 23, 2023, 4:00 AM

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here are some starters

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these 2 are decent fighters that arent overtiered

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for 7.7 id use this

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and do not go past on 8.7 for italy for your sanity, considering you have little to none good cas/fighter/grinder options

sullen dock Jul 23, 2023, 2:46 PM

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thanks man!

dawn shale Jul 24, 2023, 5:28 AM

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For lower tiers the breda 88 is good, the premium 109s with 50 kilos are great, the g55s are fine

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The re 2005 is also great and has good loadouts but it’s far from what it used to be

zealous dagger Mar 15, 2024, 7:23 PM

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dawn shale For lower tiers the breda 88 is good, the premium 109s with 50 kilos are great, ...

Fellow Breda 88 enjoyer

dawn shale Mar 15, 2024, 7:24 PM

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Holy fuck

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I thought you just said the breda truck is good @zealous dagger

zealous dagger Mar 15, 2024, 7:24 PM

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Oh nah lol

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It's aight but I don't care for it

dawn shale Mar 15, 2024, 7:24 PM

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Almost shat myself.

zealous dagger Mar 15, 2024, 7:24 PM

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88 though... Great plane

dawn shale Mar 15, 2024, 7:24 PM

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Oh btw

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The re2005

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Great cas

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4.7 fm and performance

zealous dagger Mar 15, 2024, 7:25 PM

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I need to grind out the 2005 for sure

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I'm 1/4 done

dawn shale Mar 15, 2024, 7:25 PM

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It isn’t great.

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If you have the g55s just use that.

zealous dagger Mar 15, 2024, 7:25 PM

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Oh I know it's seriously above it's needed BR but it's one of the few I don't have spaded

dawn shale Mar 15, 2024, 7:26 PM

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Ah okay

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Remember to get the tu2 btw

zealous dagger Mar 15, 2024, 7:26 PM

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On my way to it rn

dawn shale Mar 15, 2024, 7:26 PM

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Oh @sullen dock italy gets a tu2

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The best bomber cas at the br.

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So

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Get that.

zealous dagger Mar 15, 2024, 7:26 PM

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Also a beautiful plane in general

dawn shale Mar 15, 2024, 7:26 PM

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Use a custom preset with 2 1000s and 9 100s

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Or 4 250s if you are not comfortable using the 100s

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It’s one of the worse tu2’s but it’s the best of the worst

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So

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Yippee.

zealous dagger Mar 15, 2024, 7:27 PM

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What one is best?

dawn shale Mar 15, 2024, 7:27 PM

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The yak9p is a good fighter too, but I would take something like the g55s or re2005 over it due to ammo count

dawn shale Mar 15, 2024, 7:28 PM

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zealous dagger What one is best?

The first one, the tu2s

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The reason being that is gets FAR superior 1000 kilos and better gunner angles

zealous dagger Mar 15, 2024, 7:28 PM

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Oh Jesus that's a huge difference yeah

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Not gonna bother with IL-10 I don't think

dawn shale Mar 15, 2024, 7:29 PM

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Basically the tu2s’ 1000s

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Are torpedoes.

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With little stubs attached.

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Most advanced russian bomb.

dawn shale Mar 15, 2024, 7:30 PM

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zealous dagger Not gonna bother with IL-10 I don't think

Does it get the 4 23’s?

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But yeah it’s not really worth using over the tu2

zealous dagger Mar 15, 2024, 7:30 PM

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It does yes

dawn shale Mar 15, 2024, 7:31 PM

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Eh maybe then

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But still underpowered, slow and haemorrhages energy.

nimble steeple Mar 15, 2024, 8:24 PM

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Had pretty good experience with the SM.92 custom bombload and Italian 4.0-3.7 lineup is broken with the Turan III and Chaffee.

small umbra Mar 15, 2024, 11:54 PM

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There's a 2.3 and a 3.3 plane that get 250kg bombs

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Italy 4.0 is the best 4.0 lineup in the game

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Especially if you have all the BP/prems

zealous dagger Mar 16, 2024, 2:30 AM

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Re.2002 is really fun

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Thats the 2.3

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Re.2001CB also gets a 250 at 3.0 or 2001(CN) at 3.3

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I prefer the CB myself

small umbra Mar 16, 2024, 4:12 AM

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I prefer the 3.3 because it's Rank 3

dawn shale Mar 16, 2024, 5:08 AM

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I prefer the 109 because it is better

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batchest

small umbra Mar 17, 2024, 2:44 AM

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This is the correct answer

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I also just use the BP 109

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And the spit for funny

zealous dagger Mar 17, 2024, 2:45 AM

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Hungarian 109 scheme is really nice

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Gonna build a model of it soon actually, I have the decals already

small umbra Mar 17, 2024, 2:46 AM

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The camo for it is so nice

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My favorite 109 camo

zealous dagger Mar 17, 2024, 2:52 AM

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That's the one I'm aiming to make

zealous dagger Mar 17, 2024, 10:06 PM

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Suboptimal

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Really like the G.55 0 lately

zealous dagger Mar 18, 2024, 2:37 PM

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Anyone have advice for the C.205(N2)? Feels blatantly worse than the series 3

small umbra Mar 19, 2024, 2:23 AM

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I honestly had a worse time in the series 3 than the N2

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But that was mainly because the guns do no damage now

zealous dagger Mar 19, 2024, 2:36 AM

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Hmm very survivable

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8 Minute flight, 239 score 😈

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If airfield bombing isnt a thing anymore bombers really need higher score multipliers

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Bring out the cannon one and instantly get higher score without even hitting a target

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Not sure why my team had 2 HE111, a Ju88, a 217N and a single 190A1 against multuple P38, P39, and a Hellcat but why not

small umbra Mar 19, 2024, 2:52 AM

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P-61 looks like it's going to be an 8:20 flight

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P.108 is a very interesting bomber

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Kinda bad gun coverage but really good bomb load

zealous dagger Mar 19, 2024, 3:02 AM

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small umbra Kinda bad gun coverage but really good bomb load

Would make far more sense for them to be the same BR

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Lose your only forward firing gun for less than 10kph

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Brilliant

small umbra Mar 19, 2024, 3:03 AM

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I'd rather have the gun honestly

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Same thing with the Z.1007s

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Except I think they actually are the same

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Also a pet peeve I have with bombers is when all the gunners are bunched up

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So one 20mm just kills all of them

zealous dagger Mar 19, 2024, 3:22 AM

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Yeah I put a bunch of RP towards the second one before I realized

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But at least I didnt buy it

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Z1.007 are fun

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Perform way better in game than they did IRL

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Wooden frame was famous for lighting on fire in Africa and cracking from the Russian cold KEKL

small umbra Mar 19, 2024, 3:36 AM

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I spaded all of them hollow

small umbra Mar 19, 2024, 3:37 AM

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zealous dagger Wooden frame was famous for lighting on fire in Africa and cracking from the Rus...

Average Italian engineering

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I remember have a good time in the 2.7 one and absolutely suffering in the 3.0 one for no reason

zealous dagger Mar 19, 2024, 3:57 AM

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If only we could get a Z.1018

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Or even just a Z.1007Ter

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Better defensive armament, better armor, better speed

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175 more HP per engine

zealous dagger Mar 19, 2024, 4:01 AM

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small umbra I spaded all of them<:hollow:1094410479742484554>

Trying to spade the SM79s in between spamming F-4 to get the Hungarian line started. Idk why 5 diff ones was ever considered a good idea and there used to be a 6th

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Yet somehow no IAR.79Jrs

small umbra Mar 19, 2024, 4:02 AM

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zealous dagger If only we could get a Z.1018

1018 has a pretty mid bomb load compared to the 1007

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2x 1000kgs and 12x 100s

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Still good of course

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1007 ter sounds good though

zealous dagger Mar 19, 2024, 3:39 PM

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small umbra 1018 has a pretty mid bomb load compared to the 1007

Until we can get the Z.511(modificado) it'll have to do

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10x20mm defensive guns, 4,000 KG bombload, 400-425 KPH, four engine floatplane KEKW

small umbra Mar 19, 2024, 3:56 PM

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KEKW

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Me want

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Until gaijin makes it 5.7

zealous dagger Mar 22, 2024, 11:45 PM

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Good looking plane too

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Condor but not useless

zealous dagger Mar 26, 2024, 2:33 AM

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@small umbra Italy out here with the mf RGB backlit cockpit

small umbra Mar 26, 2024, 2:34 AM

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Italy must have the best gaming keyboards

zealous dagger Mar 26, 2024, 3:22 AM

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Average italian experience

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Entire teams dead before you can hit 3500 meters clueless

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Bottom BR B7A2 on the enemy team? 4 kills KEKL

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Playing against germany always makes me wonder how the few intelligent FW190A players are never on my team

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I saw an A-8 lose to a P-51C earlier, badly, and an enemy A5/U2 in this game whooped a Mustangs ass

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That thing is a fucking strike variant KEKL

small umbra Mar 26, 2024, 3:25 AM

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The A-8 would definitely get its ass kicked by a 51C

zealous dagger Mar 26, 2024, 3:30 AM

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small umbra The A-8 would definitely get its ass kicked by a 51C

A-8 is the fighter, not the strike

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So you'd at least expect something of a competition

small umbra Mar 26, 2024, 3:31 AM

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I mean it's a 51C

zealous dagger Mar 26, 2024, 3:31 AM

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V good plane for sure

small umbra Mar 26, 2024, 3:31 AM

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A good 51C player will shit on the average 190 player

zealous dagger Mar 26, 2024, 3:32 AM

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doesnt help that A models are modeled completely wrong

white thorn Mar 26, 2024, 5:23 AM

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zealous dagger A-8 is the fighter, not the strike

and the strike f8 has better performance than the a8

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they have the exact same flight model except 2 151s are removed on the f8

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making it a bit lighter

zealous dagger Mar 26, 2024, 12:39 PM

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white thorn and the strike f8 has better performance than the a8

Only because the A8 is modeled completely wrong

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Hadn't looked at it before but it has FAR more armor than it should, unless it's meant to be an A8/R8

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And even then it's canopy armor would still be too thick

zealous dagger Apr 7, 2024, 12:21 PM

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@small umbra Cant Z.1007 first prototype with inline engines

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It's ugly KEKL

small umbra Apr 7, 2024, 3:17 PM

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Average Italian bomber looks

dawn shale Apr 7, 2024, 5:18 PM

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third one looks good

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second one looks like a fucked up Manchester

#Italian cas/fighters?