Progression

[rapid mica]

The us will teach you how to play with jack of all trades tanks. They might also teach you how to do cas, but that comes more with time. Russia is probably the best starter nation as you are handheld the entire way and have the best top tier in game

[latent atlas]

You think it's worth to start over? + Is Germany a good choice

?

[rugged wadi]

germany is very good up to 3.3, not so good from 3.3 until 5.0, VERY good from 5.3 to 6.7 and i dont know too much about top tier

russia is better for starters tho

usa is quite nice too until you get to 5.3, there youre just gonna get fucked by tigers and panthers

[steep quarry]

Germany has decent 3.7 and good 4.3 what are you on about

[rugged wadi]

the pz4s are only good when you shoot first

bread armour and about 0 mobility

[keen dove]

One sec let me just clarify

Let's compare pz4s to Cromwell's,

Ah icba

[rapid mica]

Cromwells are literally the worst 3.7 mediums.

[rapid mica]

Germany is good but has notoriously shit teammates

As every 13 yo sees the tiger, goes omnimnom best tank of ww2, i cannot die, and then die.

[keen dove]

Yes that's what I was saying

Pz4s are literally one of the best low tier tanks

You get workable mobility, passable armour and a fantastic gun at 3.3, 3.7

[wild dove]

Keep going until you get the jumbo

It’s insane

German mains don’t know where to shoot you

[obsidian haven]

You don’t have to just pick one nation either you can just play both. It’s always fun to play different tech trees and stuff to keep it fresh

[steep quarry]

yes

def agree

best way to play warthunder is to not focus on one nation imo

having a decent selection of planes/tanks from different nations is good to help you have more fun

like if your fustrated with one nation you have other nations that you can use that you have fun with

[wild orbit]

Pz4 is not beginner friendly at all

it has terrible armor and survivability

the kwk40 does not lolpen everything at 3.7 like some people would like you to believe

it's a glass cannon, but the cannon isn't outstandingly good

t34 and Sherman is the most beginner friendly tanks, along with kv1

since the armor will save you when you make mistakes

[steep quarry]

not the KV1

KV1 has a shit gun but good armor no new player will be good in the KV1

[wild orbit]

you just need to know where to shoot, you don't have to really worry about positioning or anything else

[steep quarry]

you need experience on the tanks weakspots,Ammo,crew and stuff like that to do good in the KV

[wild orbit]

You can make an impact just by soaking up shots in the kv1

the gun isn't that shit since it can pen weak spots and has insane amounts of filler

[steep quarry]

very weak pen though.

and like you said you need to know weakspots

[wild orbit]

it's like 80mm ish which is generally enough

yes you need to weakspots, but you would also need to know the same weakspots with guns with ~100mm of pen

The armor gives you a chance to actually shoot at the enemies and practice your aim

ppl just keep complaining about German mains bad at 3.7 ish when pz4s got moved down but the truth is that pz4 is far from meta in wt

[obsidian haven]

The other beginner tip is don't listen to people with the 'bad advice merchant' tag

[craggy onyx]

hes giving better advice than you

[obsidian haven]

Have fun is bad advice okay champ

[rapid mica]

Dont listen to cekseh? Ok dude.

[rapid mica]

For experienced players. For beginners, no. There I recommend t34s.

[wild orbit]

my IGN is BoenFlooring if you want to check my stats to see if I'm credible

[rapid mica]

stats are a pretty shit measure for me

however ive played with him and he plays well.

[rugged wadi]

from 1.3 to 3.3 they might be, but above that they just get fucked in the ass by everything else, shermans, cromwells, kvs, t-34s, literally everything

they are only good if you get to shoot first

and thats not too likely with that mobility and turret rotation

[wild orbit]

even at 3.3 the t-34 1940 is much more meta

or the 3.3 sherman

[rugged wadi]

3.3 sherman? o.O

[keen dove]

For beginners I would recommend t34s and Sherman's tbh

T34s cos they are the most forgiving if you make a mistake cos they have pretty decent armour

Sherman's once you know when to peak cos stabiliser makes it easy to get the first shot

[rugged wadi]

the 4.0 shermans also have great armour when angled

T-34s have problems facing them, their turrets and sides are very weak

[keen dove]

Sherman's have weaker sides wdym

[rugged wadi]

only 7mm more

sherman eats through that

[keen dove]

Sure but it's angled and gets shells volumetriced a lot more

[rugged plume]

Russia don't handhold, reload times and extremely big weakpoints

You'll 90% get 1 shot or it is made of stalinium and no one can do shit to you

russia gets good around 7.3

[torpid scarab]

With Russia you need to be patient with the T-34s. They are are unstoppable if you get into a good position and

[warped heart]

Very good vehicles but not so good teamates

[sharp lantern]

There is no fun at high/top tier. Don't fool yourself.

[rugged wadi]

fr

point, press rangefinder, shoot

[keen dove]

I enjoy it but mainly cos I like the vehicles

Also recently Russia is dominating again which isn't as fun

[sharp lantern]

I just did some 11.3. The matches are so pathetic and sad compared to the chaos and mayhem of low tier. Such a joke. Oh yeah 6 matches and Russia just stomped it out in 6 minutes each time. Play 9.7 if you want to see Russia lose over and over. Talking from experience. But yeah, don't bother going past 4.7 if you want to have a fun eventful match.

[keen dove]

Nah 8.3 is the cutoff for fun matches

[gray vapor]

3.7-4.7 is where its at

[rugged wadi]

fr

[torpid scarab]

A lot more fun than anything below 2.3 other than the BTs

[night harbor]

if ur looking for fun around 7.0-8.0 id say germany or uk. germany cause of leopard and atgm carriers uk because of stabilizers

[torpid scarab]

I enjoy 8.7 and 9.3