#what do i get

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barren root
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Hm

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Well

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I'm a t34 85 lover to be honest

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Speedy, decent cannon

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Is 1 has good armour, a bit slower and stuff

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Pt 76 is quirky but not the best in my opinion

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Good to scout out enemies, plus it has heatfs with 200mm pen and a full stabiliser

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And a good reload

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But it's a bit slow for a light tank, and no armour

gleaming harbor
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T-34-85 is more noob friendly, its fast, armor that saves you sometimes, and that stupid gun with insane angle pen. Good all rounder tank.

Pt76 has good pen heat shell but very meh post pen damage (feels like low caliber APCR), can die to 50 cals, Sorta fast, stabilizer, It's a good tank to bring out if you want to hop into a plane really fast with scouting.

IS-1 I sorta a disappointment tbh, the armor is ok for its BR, it's slow, obviously, the gun is pretty much the same gun as the T-34-85, if you really want to play a heavy tank with the 85mm gun the KV-85 is a better BR for almost the same amount of relative armor for its BR minus the reverse speed of the IS chassis.

barren root
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I think the is 1 has the potential to be amazing

gleaming harbor
barren root
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I'm more successful with the t34 and I love it to bits

modest pendant
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I agree with the T-34, but hopefully you plan on getting all of them to make a line up

stuck palm
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why is kv85 4.7 tho

gleaming harbor
# stuck palm 34 85 is better ๐Ÿ‘

KV-85 at 4.7 because of gaijin 10/10 balancing wdym lol. It's even funnier if you look at the SU-85 at 4.3
T-34 mobility with 85mm gun at 4.3 just minus turret

barren root
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I thought the 85 was 5.0

gleaming harbor
barren root
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Ah

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Wait

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No

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I mean the su 85

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Not kv

gleaming harbor
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I never touched it because I play the SU-85 more but I should probably get around to playing 4.7 Russia, but beating 3.3 children in a full down tier is fun.

barren root
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Dang

gleaming harbor
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Its scary how good that gun is LOL

gleaming harbor
stuck palm
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no I genuinely think its mid

gleaming harbor
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I think it's pretty good, the mobility makes it easy to get into good positions early game, I find it good at flanking and it practically one shots everything it sees, idk preferences.

stuck palm
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no turret ๐Ÿ‘

gleaming harbor
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I don't find having no turret that big of an issue if you just keep your head on a swivel and know where people are.

stuck palm
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I personally do

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highest kd I have on any turretless shitbox is like 2.8 or smth

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although Ive never played jagdpanth since it doesnt have a lineup

stuck palm
gleaming harbor
stuck palm
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its more of a the enemies are bad than a the tank is good

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but ye the 4/70 is too low of a br

barren root
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Turret or not, it depends on the playstyle

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You won't be as successful brawling at that thing compare to sniping

stuck palm
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and thus its mid

barren root
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I mean I guess

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But it's more hit or miss

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Very good at one thing, not so good at the other

craggy patio
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A bit late to the party but if you are talking about 85 d-5t I would go there first. After that I would say get the is1 and the pt final bcuz it's imo pretty good

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Also the is 1 can tank shots that it shouldnt so you don't have to worry about armour that much

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Also for the pt bcuz the stock grind is rly painful I would suggest going to assault ground arcade for some easy bot kills

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And go straight for the heat

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And finally even though you didn't mention it I would recommend the btr zd for AA as it is just a zsu 57 2 at 5.3