AFRICA BIG FIVE (Africa 2.0 + Class 10 Weapons) 🇿🇼🇿🇦

[dire prism]

Something like Romania with carpathian chamois, golden jackal, partridge, dove, pigeon, and some repeat small and big game would be cool, especially cause it opens up for like remodeled mouflon

my guess is they use a common beta build for testing to prevent too much code conflict with updates so whatever else theyre working on ended up being shown in the teaser

[patent agate]

I have an odd story about a Romanian woman but that's not for here.

Anyway yeah, and that would be another wolf area too

Transylvania would be kinda fun too, some good lore to play into as we're scaling cliffs to hunt chamois

[untold maple]

Africa be crazy

[dire prism]

goddamn

[sage dome]

Could be

[sage dome]

I want a thompson self defense gun in cotw now

[untold maple]

Now that everyone is grinding for grey wolves…..

[sage dome]

True true, the event is out in less than 1 hour as well

[hybrid sundial]

Which Event?

[ivory summit]

M203 Launcher when EW ?

[sage dome]

Halloween event launching in i think 30 min? I’m playing rn so i can see beforehand

[sage dome]

Looks like a soldier that got left behind in a mission

[hybrid sundial]

Alr when it launches can you show the rewards ?

[sage dome]

Sure but it does usually show up on this discord

[patent agate]

Great. Perfect. Good job EW.

[sage dome]

Sadly no matte black

[patent agate]

Another community challenge i won't take part in i guess

[tranquil phoenix]

DAY 649 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.O

[sage dome]

Yeah last one wasn’t that great either tbh imo

[patent agate]

Not worth messing with this time

[trail loom]

I can’t believe making your barrel gun metal black is gatekept behind the Easter holiday. I wasn’t playing COTW this April so I forgot to go on and get it

[patent agate]

Its just nonsense at this point

[old saffron]

With them doing so many time limited skins with community events I hope they start releasing DLC bundles for them later.

Having skin holiday bundles or bundles of the community event skins would be nice. Can still get them for free during the time they’re available but if you miss it u can still buy them

Still a bit annoyed I didn’t get the bear community event skins, I thought I killed bears that counted but with how it doesn’t tell you your continuation till the events over, I didn’t know they didn’t

[trail schooner]

Add the greater kudu and african wild dogs

[olive axle]

And give the jackal some love they’re so bad rn

[nocturne pagoda]

Somebody send me a list of new species they would want the most for an Africa 2.0 map!

Other than red hartebeest

I know. I see you typing Queen 😭

[lean viper]

Any hartebeest subspecies depending on the location, Plains Zebra, Black Wildebeest, Eland, African Leopard, African Cheetah, Marabou Stork, Common Ostrich, Common Impala, Kobs, Lechwe etc etc i just want everything

Grevy’s zebra would be pretty cool too

[fleet forge]

Anyway have any Art pictures of a Cheetah for Africa 2.0?!

[nocturne pagoda]

I am about to start yapping. What I can see in COTW out of that list is…

• Common Impala
• Eland
• Black Wildebeest
• Red Hartebeest ofc
• African Leopard
• Plains Zebra
• Nile Lechwe

My additions!

• Striped/Spotted Hyena
• Angolan Giraffe
• Southwest African Lion (the lion reworked)
• Side Striped Jackal (Reworked)
• Bat-Eared Fox
• Aardwolf
• Nile Crocodile (slightly smaller than saltwater crocodiles, and are known to be highly aggressive and are social, meaning they can be found in sizable groups with other crocodiles)
• Greater Kudu (either replacing the lesser kudu or existing alongside it. The region of the map the lesser kudu is found in is actually the natural habitat of a greater kudu, while lesser prefer more arid areas.)

What I don’t think would work

• Cheetahs (are not commonly sought after for trophy hunting, as well as the fact are not aggressive; so people don’t see a reason to hunt them for either reason.)
• Elephants or Rhinoceros (While it would be cool, they would have to introduce entirely new mount platforms to fit the size of either. But if it can work that would be freaking sweet)
• Any storks, cranes, or ostriches. (That would require a new skeleton to work with and those aren’t commonly sought after during hunting either iirc)

[lean viper]

i just listed things i’d like to see in an africa map

[nocturne pagoda]

Though imagine sniping an ostrich from 400m while it runs at you

[nocturne pagoda]

Yeee I’m just bouncing off your idea :D

The reason I asked is because I want to design concept art for them!

[lean viper]

ooh cool

[tranquil phoenix]

DAY 650 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0

[hybrid sundial]

Eland and greater kudu

[ivory summit]

Depends on the region but the animals I want most are probably one of the 3 impala subspecies (Southern, Eastern or black-faced) one of the Greater Kudu subspecies (Eastern Cape, Southern, east african) and one of the bushbuck subspecies (harnasbosbok, Nile, Arusi, chobe or Southern African). Also leopard ofcourse.

My ideal list has like 33 animals though so it's a bit much to ask I think

[nocturne pagoda]

Vurhonga gets a brother with that many 😭

[untold maple]

Greater Kudu, Nyala, Bushbuck, Livingstone Eland, Lord Derby Eland, Bongo, Sitatunga, mountain Nyala, Sable, Roan, Red Lechwe, Black Lechwe, Grants Gazelle, Gerenuk, Giraffe, Zebra, Bushpig, Baboon, vervet monkey, Colubus monkey, The Tiny Ten, and The Dangerous seven

[untold maple]

Can’t forget about western kudu

[untold maple]

I’ve tried irl before

Ostrich suck to hunt

[sage dome]

I definetly think making the effort for rhinos and elephants is worth it, ostriches as well. Rhinos and ostriches especially are some of my favorite animals and since they have aknowledged that we want a new trophy lodge and in general elephants and typical african wildlife is very sought after to hunt by many playing cotw, the effort imo would be very much worth it

[trail loom]

Remastering trophy lodges has to happen with or without class 10 animals.

And yes the effort would be totally worth it. It's almost pathetic that no good hunting games (Classic, WOTH, Cotw,) have any of the abovementioned. Hunting Africa's big five is supposed to be the pinnacle of outdoorsmanship next to fishing for Marlin in the angling world.

[sage dome]

Considering the upcoming game Ultimate Hunting is adding monkeys (baboons) and elephants and zebras, and not to mention they’re a small developing team of like two people i believe, EW has got their work cut out for them or how you say it. Ik Cotw has a older engine but the animations and graphics are better than ultimate hunting, so no doubt what you are saying is possible

[trail loom]

Ultimate hunting (If the gameplay is more polished than in the trailer), will be good but updates will come soooooo slow.

[sage dome]

Very true, and i think they said in one of their later videos that the gameplay in the trailers is not the final product

[nocturne pagoda]

Fair! I hope EW can make it work :)

[trail loom]

They said in their FAQ they can do it and they plan to make a diverse set of maps on africa, all they have to do for the especially animals is remaster how lodges work first. From what I got in the message it's not really an if anymore, it's a when.

[patent agate]

Coke's hartebeest

[nocturne pagoda]

Red Hartebeest is done.

Black Wildebeest is next.

@lean viper (when you wake up)

[pulsar matrix]

Gonna add my two cents
Rock hyrax
Enough said.

[tranquil phoenix]

DAY 651 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0

[untold maple]

https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1336821988718809119
there’s some really interesting fur colors (for heartebeest and other animals) in here if you want

[lean viper]

i love!! (may i make a suggestion for a very rare mutation for it?)

[trail schooner]

i like the idea of wild dogs too

african wild dog looks cute

[lean viper]

i’d rather have these instead of hyenas

[nocturne pagoda]

If it’s for the black wildebeest yes

[lean viper]

i don’t have any for the wilde but for the harte i do

[nocturne pagoda]

Okay… I can see if I can make a second sheet but once I finish something it’s a bit hard to resume

[lean viper]

if it makes things harder dw about it

[nocturne pagoda]

Noooo I want idea gimme

[lean viper]

i’ll DM u them if its alr?

[nocturne pagoda]

Yeeee :D

Went ahead and sent ya a wave so the message doesn’t sit hidden in my requests

[nocturne pagoda]

By request of @lean viper ! Two more really cool rare coats.

The Ticked looks more like a brindle, closest brush I could find that represented ticked markings

[lean viper]

that looks awesome! hopefully 1 day EW listens and adds red hartebeests along with the concept art u made because this would be awesome ingame

[patent agate]

Awesome

[patent agate]

Ticked would easily be my favorite fur color in the game hands down

[old saffron]

Ticked looks amazing!

[fleet forge]

Understandable about cheetahs but Since we got Tigers and Snow Leopards I have a Feeling the Chance of them being on Africa 2.0 is Even Higher then before. One could also add on about Woodland Caribou, Snow Geese, and Wood Duck on Askiy Ridge since they aren’t that Sought after In Alberta and Caribou are Illegal to hunt there IRL

[untold maple]

Those look so good

[nocturne pagoda]

True. And the game isn’t really based on actual real life stuff for the most part

[patent agate]

#1431699804672622673

I went on a rant, i apologize

[trail schooner]

Im pretty heavy on wild dogs in here, so heres a real life leucistic wild dog pup (yeah its cute)

[nocturne pagoda]

THE BABYYY

[trail schooner]

imagine if they made the level 1s in game babies

[nocturne pagoda]

That would be dark 😭

[foggy salmon]

Black Wildebeest

[ivory summit]

Speaking of wild dogs, I drove from Pretoria to Ellisras in Limpopo last weekend and there's a pretty big area that's a Wild dog conservation zone on the way there between the town of Vaalwater and Ellisras

Wild dogs are really quite rare this side

[trail schooner]

Wild dogs are rare, just like ethiopian wolves with arent really even wolves

I'd like to see some more really rare animals like the snow leopard in sundarpatan, there's no better feeling (excluding g1s or sr's of course) then when youre able to have a successful snow leopard hunt (since theyre so rare)

[nocturne pagoda]

Consistency

[untold maple]

The African equivalent would be regular leopard(because they’re so hard to hunt), hunters hartebeest, Okopi, Mountain Nyala, bongo, lord derby eland, forest sitatunga, and Black Rhino

[trail schooner]

Leopards are nowhere near on the level of snow leopards, and I’m talking about also hard to hunt animals, not a rhino nor a nyala

The area with highest recorded density for wild dogs is 2.5 per square mile
(Which Im well aware doesnt compete with snow leopards as in their move dense area there are known to be only around .08 per square mile)

[untold maple]

I beg to differ for leopard, I’ve heard this one story about a woman who baited leopard for 50 nights straight before seeing one, they are by far the most illusive cat in Africa.
And Black rhino where considered the most dangerous amongst the big five during the golden age of safari hunting(since then they became very rare and now that title goes to the Cape buffalo)

I also said mountain Nyala, very different from the Southern African Nyala

[trail schooner]

Leopards definitely wouldnt be a bad hunt, although I dont think non-predator would fit that spot well

[final current]

Why do people want African Wild Dogs so much?

Its one of the species I don't think we really need considering that every country in Sub-Saharan Africa that allows hunting does have a good variety of huntable species with well over half of those countries having at least 2 or 3 members of the Big 5 as huntable species

[final current]

I would argue that a non-predatory animal would work as a rare species in a manner similar to Snow Leopard, especially the two African Rhino species

[untold maple]

I think it’s because of that beautiful coat

But I do agree, I would much rather see the actual huntable species be added first

Took these photos

[trail schooner]

Not nearly as elusive, I like tree's idea of leopard way better. There's also a significant difference in population and population distribution between the two.

[final current]

Funny thing about the Mountain Nyala is that they are more closely related to the Greater Kudu and Bongo then they are to the Nyala of Southern Africa'

[trail loom]

Yeah, black rhinoceros would be my favorite of the big five

They’re huge and very aggressive, too bad they’re nearly wiped out from poaching

[final current]

They are doing well in South Africa and Namibia to the point where a couple dozen permits are given out across both countries and in Namibia they focus on bulls past breeding age that are considered a threat to younger rhinos

[trail loom]

Yeah old males that are a threat to youngsters is valid

I wonder how expensive that trophy hunt is

[glad loom]

When africa 2.0 comes out, they should definitely bring back the Vurhonga warden for cameo and have him say "It's been a while grandchild" cause yk, it's rly been years!!

[final current]

A permit for one black rhino in Namibia went for 350,000 USD at a auction hosted by Dallas Safari Club in 2014 with the funds going towards anti-poaching efforts in Namibia

[sacred tiger]

2 things I would say, a really good class 1 animal is helmeted guinea fowl and please specify greater kudu before they add lesser kudu in again 😭 . Sable antelope is also a good shout.

[tranquil phoenix]

DAY 652 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0

[sage dome]

It could be cool just to see them like very rarely, though you wouldn’t be able to shoot them, it would say invalid target like on the dog. I realize it can take a little time to fix something like that for every animal so won’t happen i believe unless they somehow run out of ideas

[trail schooner]

Yeah that wasn’t a literal suggestion

[mighty void]

Habe you seen muntjac baby's? 😭

[patent agate]

Ultimate Hunting dropped a new developer log, the rifle looks awesome yes but look at the vehicle n the right side of the pic.

Is it just me or is that a camper on that truck? Mobile Hunting camp?!

[sage dome]

Yeah i understood that but mine was

[mighty void]

What is that white area?

[tranquil phoenix]

Wow wasn't expecting this many reactions

DAY 653 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0

[sage dome]

Ik you weren’t asking me but i think it’s just ungenerated ground

[mighty void]

I was asking you included

[sage dome]

Ok i thought you were only asking him since you replied to him

[mighty void]

It was more to the picture then him specific, I figured it was water they hadn't made xet

[sage dome]

Alright just wanted to be clear, could be water too, it usually looks like that in games when textures aren’t generated

[patent agate]

Its just a test path, they were testing sound design apparently but I noticed the vehicle

[tranquil phoenix]

DAY 654 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0

[versed basalt]

I WANT TO HUNT ZEBRAS!!!

[mighty void]

Just 3 likes left 😮

[patent agate]

I can imagine lying on the bank, rifle in hand waiting for a clean shot and thinking

"MOVE OREO DONKEY I WANT THE IMPALA"

[hybrid sundial]

TWO LEFT🗣️

[old saffron]

Give me an African animal to draw that isn’t a leopard 🙂‍↕️ (I’ll take a handful!)

[lean viper]

lichensteins hartebeest

[untold maple]

Lord derby eland, Mountain Nyala,(East African) Bongo, Forest Sitatunga, Dibatag, I can do this all day

[old saffron]

I’ll only be doing one per person 🙂‍↕️ kinda the idea I’ll be drawing people’s favorites (leopard isn’t allowed since I have a full piece idea already for them)

[final current]

Are recently extinct (Late Pleistocene to 20th Century) animals ok or is it only currently living species, I have a suggestion for both

[old saffron]

feel free to drop both and ill just choose which one i wanna do if either appeal to me

[final current]

For the Late Pleistocene/Early Holocene choice I am going with the Syncerus antiquus and as for an animal that is still with us I will go with the Korrigum of Western Africa

[untold maple]

Oooohhh

Straight tucked elephant or Lord Derby Eland

[final current]

The most recent of the African Straight-tusked Elephants was Palaeoloxodon jolensis which might have made it to the Late Pleistocene but went extinct before the end of the last Ice Age

[old saffron]

did this guy go extinct bcuz they where doing the opposite of mitosis to get bigger and bigger horns by absorbing their friends? 😭

i did hartebeast ( @lean viper and Lord Derby Eland @untold maple ) for now, might do a couple more when i feel like it. probably stuff thats incorrect but these are supposed to be quick so ignore it 🙂‍↕️

[final current]

They might have been restricted to what is now the Sahara Desert at the end of the last Ice Age and went extinct only a couple thousand years ago through a combination of over-hunting and the once green savannahs and wetlands becoming the Sahara Desert. The time the Sahara was green is known as the African Humid Period

[tranquil phoenix]

DAY 655 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0

When ( not if ) we reach 2000 upvotes I am interested in posting 20 pieces of art and if you have any requests for species I'll try and find one for that 👍

[mighty rampart]

2 away from 2k

[ivory summit]

Love the pfp
Got a WhatsApp sticker of that dapper dude lol

[tranquil phoenix]

Who is it?

[ivory summit]

No idea. If I remember correctly tho the dudes a Rwandan solider with a AK pattern rifle, rhidesian brushsroke pants and a sick neon jacket and I saw the photo ages ago and though it was the funniest thing

[tranquil phoenix]

Ah

[mighty void]

Bongo and mountain nyala

[untold maple]

Lord derby eland, Ssese island sitatunga, forest elephant, dwarf buffalo, striped hyena, Dibatag, Hirola, East African Bongo, lesser kudu, Gerenuk, lesser kudu, and Mountain Nyala

(Particularly Lord derby Eland but any of those are good)

[tranquil phoenix]

God damn

I'll see what I can find in preparation

[tranquil phoenix]

I have found a good one for Bongo but not so much for Mountain Nyala although I do have one that possibly isn't the best quality

[tranquil phoenix]

Found one for Lord Derby Eland, none for Sitatunga surprisingly, one for Forest Elephant, none for Dwarf Buffalo, one for Striped Hyena, none for Dibatag, none for Hirola, none for East African Bongo, one for Lesser Kudu ( questionable quality ), none for Generuk, and like I said to Janny one for Mountain Nyala but not the best quality. So for all of those that I wasn't able to get they either did not exist at all or were too poor quality or not even really what I would want to use. Sorry

I am not entirely sure whether the one's I did gather are even worth sharing. Don't particularly understand why it proved to be so difficult but they were specific so that could be a factor.

[mighty void]

Well otherwise you could do some tiny ten species like oribi or grybok

[tranquil phoenix]

Maybe we'll see and we're only one away!

[tranquil phoenix]

DAY 656 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0

[buoyant cosmos]

Tbh the only reason I still support this idea is so people shut up about African maps, so that my beloved New Guinea has a better chance at becoming a map.

[ripe badge]

Spite is a legitimate motivator

[tranquil phoenix]

WE'VE DONE IT!!!! 🥳 🥳 🥳

Give me a moment to sort together a post

!!!!!!!!!!!HERE IT IS LADIES AND GENTLEMEN DAY 656 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0 AND THE DAY WE HAVE REACHED 2000 UPVOTES!!!!!!!!!! 🥳 🥳 🌍 🌍 🔥 🔥 🇿🇼 🇿🇼 🇿🇲 🇿🇲 🇿🇦 🇿🇦

[mighty void]

Wow
❤️❤️❤️🎉🎉🎉🥳🥳🥳

[untold maple]

2000 likes🎉🎊🥳🎉🎊🍾🍾🥳

[tranquil phoenix]

@mighty rampart WE DID IT!!!

[hybrid sundial]

its just crazy that one post gains 2000 likes before a second one can reach 1000

[dire prism]

I would like to add folks that celebrating upvotes technically counts as bumping and is against the new feedback engagement rules BUT because 2,000 upvotes is such a momentous milestone on any thread that I will let it stand

[lean viper]

recent activity in forums doesn’t bump it up to the top of feedback anymore, why would it be against the forum rules then?

[dire prism]

It's because it amounts to unrelated messages for CMs and devs to sort through when looking through discussions and it doesnt lend to the thread's credence as feedback

[lean viper]

mm true

[patent agate]

Super happy to see 2k finally, but I want to point this out.

Pair this reticle with a 1-5x scope and it'd be absolutely perfect for the .375 and .470.
A real dangerous game style scope for close and fast shots

[tranquil phoenix]

DAY 657 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0 AND DAY 1 SINCE REACHING 2000 UPVOTES

[mighty rampart]

Have we thought of impala variants?

[mighty void]

We have over at https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1325971453023354881

[untold maple]

I got you

https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1336821988718809119

[ivory summit]

Impala thread my beloved lost to the new sorting style

[untold maple]

So many good threads barred because of the new sorting system😔

[old saffron]

IDK why it changed, naturally the more well thought out and liked threads would gravitate to the top and allow more people to see them while the kinda eh ones just went to the bottom and it just kinda 'filtered' itself in a way

[mighty void]

😔 nothin left, but to post there links like some kind of shady advertiser...

[ivory summit]

I'm the local Impala dealer

Dealing on the bad side of the bush under a decrepit baobab tree or something

[tranquil phoenix]

DAY 658 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0 AND DAY 2 SINCE REACHING 2000 UPVOTES

[tranquil phoenix]

DAY 659 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0 AND DAY 3 SINCE REACHING 2000 UPVOTES

[patent agate]

That impala with a black back and face markings is incredible

[untold maple]

Saddle back

It’s my personal favorite(second favorite is the completely tan one)

[patent agate]

Second for me has to be white flanked

[glad loom]

2026 before 2026? 👀

[old saffron]

imagining this but w cape in africa 2.0

[untold maple]

One day, we just need to have faith

[old saffron]

rlly hoping we can get some massive herds in africa like u see around watering holes....(...without having to blow out a bunch of zones, which is what resulted in that lol past tiger grinding)

[tranquil phoenix]

DAY 660 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0 AND DAY 4 SINCE REACHING 2000 UPVOTES

[ivory summit]

Something small that I hope we get with an Africa 2.0 is a complete rework to the Scrub hare.
I hope EW fixes their look and behavior because flushing scrub hare from cover and taking them with a shotgun would be really fun in game as something to do when you're not big game hunting on an Africa map.

[ripe badge]

KEEP THE FAITH, THEY WILL HEAR US. 🔥

[patent agate]

Both makes me want to play rdr2 again and let the gator have a snack

[amber kindle]

Zimbabwe 🇿🇼
Note: It is not the official logo.

[untold maple]

@patent agate here’s something you might like, Craig Buddington got himself an Eland with a 475 Turnbull

[patent agate]

Nice! I love seeing these big rifles

[untold maple]

Spring creek needs a remaster, but you could totally fit an elephant mount into Saseka safari if you shuffle things around a little
(A total remaster of Saseka is still very needed though)

[patent agate]

This mount looks like the elephant was surprised by a bee that flew up to his eye and caused him to freak out and back up while mildly cussing the bug out

"Hi Kevin, I got Legos."

[tranquil phoenix]

DAY 661 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0 AND DAY 5 SINCE REACHING 2000 UPVOTES

[tranquil phoenix]

DAY 662 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0 AND DAY 6 SINCE REACHING 2000 UPVOTES

[mighty rampart]

I’d really like this type of terrain, but with Africa 2 being partially a African winter map.

[tranquil phoenix]

DAY 663 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0 AND DAY 7 SINCE REACHING 2000 UPVOTES

[tranquil phoenix]

DAY 664 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0 AND DAY 8 SINCE REACHING 2000 UPVOTES

[trail schooner]

They better give you a shrine if they release this map

[tranquil phoenix]

I'm pretty sure treegarden1 has done it for longer

So I feel like perhaps he deserves it more

[untold maple]

MadMike(Wellington) made the thread, he should get the shrine

[patent agate]

. . . Would he. . .voice the Warden of Africa 2.0? Do you think?

[untold maple]

@mighty rampart
If you were offered to play as the warden, would you?

[patent agate]

Do it man! DOO ITTT

[tranquil phoenix]

True

Without him I don't think we would even be here. I probably wouldn't have stayed on the server when I stopped playing COTW if it wasn't for this post.

Also one of my first communities/servers when I joined and I didn't have much going for me in regards to social interactions and friends. So @mighty rampart if you're seeing this, thank you.

[patent agate]

Well I feel called out, I only knew of discord because of work before this channel and I've spent most of my time in the Africa 2.0 thread even when I wasn't actively playing cotw

[mighty rampart]

Haha 100%

[tranquil phoenix]

DAY 665 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0 AND DAY 9 SINCE REACHING 2000 UPVOTES

[ivory summit]

These birds, the Grey Crowned Cranes, they sound a lot like geese, specifically a Canada goose

[tranquil phoenix]

Huh didn't know that

[untold maple]

They are really cool birds before I moved my local Cabela’s had a taxidermy one on display next to a sitatunga

Would be really cool to hunt one

It’s weird, Africa has so many birds and yet you can’t only hunt very few of them.

[patent agate]

To be fair, theres a lot of particularly interesting mammals to grab your attention too

"see, there's thing thing called a duiker"

insulting remark toward know it all feline

"how dare you! I know my prey animals very well good sir!"

[patent agate]

he's not lying David, im right here!

[untold maple]

NAHHHH WAY

You mean it?

They really could not do leopard back in the day. there’s so many bad leopard mounts🤣

[patent agate]

Yeah, I'd say cats in general didn't have the best taxidermy

[tranquil phoenix]

Genuinely looks like me when I get a fright 😂

[tranquil phoenix]

DAY 666 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0 AND DAY 10 SINCE REACHING 2000 UPVOTES

[patent agate]

Being entirely realistic, is there any reason not to add giraffes to the game if we are adding elephants?

[untold maple]

No good reason to not add them

Only thing I can think of is how many new skeletons they are willing to make. They would have to make a lot of custom ones because of how many unique species there are

[patent agate]

But aren't there a lot of transferable skeletons already available that would only need tweaking?

Lesser Kudu to impala, blue wildebeest to black wildebeest kinda scenarios? Aside from that, unique animals would be a huge selling point for a lot of people. I honestly think it'd sell more if they put in several unique ones

[noble knot]

Old taxidermy is a fever dream.

[nocturne pagoda]

Commenting so this thread does not disappear on me and I forget its existence

[tranquil phoenix]

DAY 667 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0 AND DAY 11 SINCE REACHING 2000 UPVOTES

[ivory summit]

Id hope they use white tail or black tail skeletons but exactly the point
I think there's a lot of reusable skeletons in game already, and besides, the subspecies of giraffe for example are relatively unique, having different patterns and such so if EW was specific with African animals sub-species, they could the same skeletons for various different animals in game

[untold maple]

Question
Where do you think do you think Africa 2.0 will be set in?
Tanzania, Zimbabwe, or Cameroon? I feel like those are the most likely countries but what do you think?

[ivory summit]

I hate to say it but Tanzania
I only hate to say it because I'm biased towards mopane bush which is very common to hunt in when in Zim, specifically Western and Southern Zim

The reason I think it might be based off of Tanzania is because Tanzania is like the default, go-to location for any form of wildlife related activity for people not from the continent. Also I think the fact that EW has decided to stick to their guns calling Vurhonga a Southern African map, I get the feeling they might go for east African next.

I still choose to hope it's maybe in Zim, Ovambo land or a map doing justice to South Africa

[tranquil phoenix]

DAY 668 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0 AND DAY 12 SINCE REACHING 2000 UPVOTES

I wanted to announce that from the 19th to the 21st or 22nd of this month or Wednesday to Friday or Saturday next week I will not be online as I will be travelling back home to Germany and the trip will be about 3 or 4 days so I wanted to let you all know and wanted to get your thoughts on whether I should do a post for tuesday and the other days before the trip or do it after. I have also thought that perhaps someone else would be interested maybe someone new? Maybe @untold maple you could take the reins for a few days? I know a week is a fair while but thought it was just worth getting out.

[tranquil phoenix]

DAY 669 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0 AND DAY 13 SINCE REACHING 2000 UPVOTES

[patent agate]

7x57mm feels like its missing from the game, it'll feel even stranger if we don't get one at least close to Africa 2.0 launch

[chrome crystal]

I would love to see a Boer pack!

[nocturne pagoda]

Boop!

Oops I left the stripe guidelines on

[mighty void]

We need those spotted zebras

[nocturne pagoda]

Pseudomela zebras are so cool looking

[old saffron]

One step closer with the new lodge patch announced! Still need more lodges / lodge updates depending on what’s all in there but it’s a step!

[chrome crystal]

@nocturne pagoda can you try to do this for the Lechwe, Waterbuck, Puku and Impala

[nocturne pagoda]

I could!

[patent agate]

Can we selectively breed these things? Much more interesting than regular zebras

[untold maple]

I would love to see what you could do for black lechwe

[patent agate]

That hide would make a killer vest

[untold maple]

A lot of African animal hides would make for good vests

Blue Wildebeest, kudu, Nyala, bushbuck, lechwe, black lechwe, blesbok, springbok, Nile croc. So many potential options

Leopard, zebra, and giraffe would be very flashy

[patent agate]

I feel the same way about zebra and leopard vests as I do about giraffe hide boots

[untold maple]

Exactly, it’s next level flashy, there’s no way you could walk around in any form of public and people not chuckle at the sight of you

A leopard skin hatband with a porcupine quill as the feather would be cool though

[patent agate]

Africa themed pi*p look huh?

You do you treeboy

[untold maple]

Just the hatband, I wouldn’t dare go any further than that

[patent agate]

WHY IS THIS 5400$?!

[patent agate]

If i did something showy, croc hide gun belt and holster

[untold maple]

Because they know that people don’t know that zebra hides don’t cost that much

Also while we were talking, I just got a diamond Desert bighorn!

[untold maple]

I should’ve saved the picture but I’ve seen that before and it would be really fun to make that

Have I ever shown you my wildebeest batwing chaps before?

[patent agate]

See, I would love to do this with a full wildebeest hide.

And yea, I've seen the chaps before. Think we talked about this same thing 2 or 3 times now

[untold maple]

That’s because leather craft is a fun topic

Also when are they finally going to add leather craft like they said they would?!

[patent agate]

Id gladly buy that dlc if they introduced 3rd person and some character customization

Also I've been reminded that the lion in rdr2 was just for one trinket you couldn't see and im mildly annoyed again

Imagine a really nice vest or coat with the mane as the collar, that would have been awesome

[untold maple]

Like kraven the hunter?

(Movie was pretty bad, they had African Cape buffalo in Siberia and didn’t understand the character of kraven the hunter)

[patent agate]

Not exactly, more like the legendary bear coat of RDR2 story. Claws as buttons, the mane just being a really fluffy collar and a nice hat with teeth on the hat hatband kinda look

Also, went down a bit of a rabbit hole. Has anyone ever tanned a Goliath tiger fish's skin?

[untold maple]

You saw the video about alligator gar leather didn’t you?

But to my knowledge Goliath tiger fish are somewhat rare so I doubt there’s any(maybe in a Radom village deep in the bush but I don’t know)

[patent agate]

My wife asked me what I was watching and I showed her, she rolled her eyes and grabbed her phone then pulled this up.

"I swear, if you could get away with it this is what you'd wear every day"

I saw the gator gar video and one for white sturgeon, id love to see a something similar for Africa.

Nile perch maybe?

[untold maple]

Found something. You were right, Nile perch

[untold maple]

Definitely needs sleeves but otherwise it would make for a really good winter jacket

(I miss the cold, I moved down to Arizona in July, I really miss up north right now😭)

[patent agate]

Yup, you made a bad move! No more cool days and snowy hunts

[amber kindle]

I think an African map with a Cape Buffalo, Lion, and Warthog because EW wants to reuse the existing species. I hope them to be reworked. I love Cameroon, but I don't think this will be Africa 2.0. Probably Africa 4.0 for Cameroon because of the Forest Elephant.

[patent agate]

Ranked how? There's no designation of rank just a color coded map

[amber kindle]

It seems that South Africa is ranked first.

[amber kindle]

Imagining, COTW has those 10 maps. 🤩
Is it an impossible dream???

[chrome crystal]

DAY 670 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0

[tranquil phoenix]

DAY 670 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0 AND DAY 14 SINCE REACHING 2000 UPVOTES

I've only just noticed the post above me so apologies NJTURNPIKE I hadn't seen it prior to making the post.

[untold maple]

There’s no way Ethiopia is a more popular hunting destination than Botswana, I just don’t believe that

[amber kindle]

You have the reason

[ivory summit]

I mean most of Eastern Africa either doesn't allow hunting or just doesn't have the animal population to make it work, I think Southern Africa really is the premier destination for African Hunting

[amber kindle]

Actually, the former Sudan (today Sudan and South Sudan) is known as the hunters’ lost paradise.

[final current]

I think I can explain why

South Sudan outright banned hunting shortly after gaining independence (from what I remember hearing about)

Sudan is currently experiencing a brutal war, and wars in Africa are not only bad for people but also wildlife

[untold maple]

So many African paradises lost 😞

Kenya, Somalia, Angola(until recently) most of central Africa, most of North Africa…okay looking at it now I wouldn’t really say paradise(especially north and central Africa).

But man, Kenya used to be so cool…and then the 70’s happened

[amber kindle]

Because people are obsessed with elephants, I think this becomes an obstacle when creating African maps, I think. With the many species that exist in Africa, EW could easily make several African maps.

[dreamy viper]

Probably grabbing at straws here but a lot of people have this false belief that Africa 2.0 will be the “last map” and means the next map is indeed Africa 2.0, they just want to stop panic beforehand.( definitely hallucinating at this stage, been waiting for this map since 2022, I remember when this thread had like 200 likes)

[amber kindle]

Or traumatized by the criticism of Vurhonga Savanna. Was this map poorly received by players? I don’t think this map is underrated.

The players had high expectations for the second African map and were putting a lot of pressure on EW.

[patent agate]

Vurhonga didn't go over well and followed up with several updates that made it worse, particularly ducks and the springbok truracs being even smaller and less impressive than the old horns, also had a lot of animals that didn't make sense and didn't look like the area it was set in.

Given how amazing the last few maps have been they have a lot less to worry about

[mighty void]

There is a story by German big game hunter Knut bellinger where he recalls Beeing approached by rebels in South Sudan (then Sudan) they drank tea and the rebels discussed what they were doing. The hunter explained he was there to shoot the bongo. The rebels had no problem with that but did also note that If he (Knut) killed one elephant they would shoot the whole hunting company on the spot.

[amber kindle]

The prestigious Spanish professional hunter Tony Sánchez-Ariño spent 25 years in (the White Nile) South Sudan. Tony was the first professional hunter to establish himself in Southern Sudan, where he continued hunting and conducting safaris until 1984—twenty-five years of his career in that hunting paradise where all the African big-game species could be found—until the civil war between the Muslim North and the Christian South forced him to leave the country.

He kept a record of the big-game animals he took, with staggering numbers: 1,317 elephants, 340 lions, 167 leopards, 127 black rhinos, and 2,093 African buffalo in his career as a professional hunter.

[mighty void]

How did he do money with that?

[amber kindle]

He asked his uncle Tomás, who was a doctor in Ademuz, for help. His uncle lent him the money to begin his career as an elephant hunter (at 22 years of age, he hunted his first elephant.), on the condition that he would pay it back. Tony also sold part of his stamp collection to get the money he needed. He traveled to Guinea, which at the time was the more affordable and where hunting was still unregulated. His first stage as a hunter took place in West Africa, using Spanish Guinea as his base. From there, he hunted in Cameroon, Guinea-Conakry, Liberia, Ivory Coast, Sierra Leone, Burkina Faso, Gabon, and Nigeria, later founding his own safari company, Nile Safaris, in South Sudan.

[amber kindle]

Spanish Guinea (now Equatorial Guinea)

[final current]

From what I just read all hunting in South Sudan was banned in 2018 (I needed to make sure the information I had was correct)

[amber kindle]

South Sudan is famous for the large migration of Tiang antelope and White-eared Kob.

[untold maple]

I believe that problem is because of how long they’ve taken to make a second African map.

There wouldn’t be a massive expectation for elephants in Africa 2.0 if they made it a while ago. but instead they put a bunch of recourses into New England mountains and revontoli coast(I’m not saying their bad maps, what I’m saying is they didn’t really add anything interesting)

[amber kindle]

From what I can see, EW has a policy of recycling assets — retexturing, remodeling, and reusing vegetation and animals models — and that’s why they have created so many maps in North America and Europe. I’m not sure if this is due to limited time, production costs, or some other reason. Salzwiesen Park is a clear example of this. It’s as if each map is designed to have a high percentage of recycled content and a lower percentage of new content. Vurhonga Savanna was released without lions, and it was a poorly received launch (the lion was added later in the New Species DLC in 2019).

When I saw the NEM map released without any new species (like the American Woodcock or the Ruffed Grouse, for example), it broke my heart.

[amber kindle]

I don’t know if the fact that The Angler has stopped development is having a positive effect on COTW (more species and improved quality, design, etc.), maybe because there are now more people on the team.

[amber kindle]

I love the environmental design of NEM and Revontuli Coast.

[patent agate]

Nem just hit as eastern Layton with more small game to me. Like yes I loved the muzzleloader (nerfed now, no reason) but the rest of the map was kinda eh.

Rev felt the same way but I loved the raccoon dogs.

I need Africa 2.0 to have plenty of big game with at least five new ones, honestly I don't care if they include elephants or rhinos. Hippos would be cool, but I mostly want plains game

[patent agate]

1. Impala
2. Roan
3. Hartebeest
4. Sable
5. Eland
6. Kob
7. Waterbuck
8. Thompson gazelle
9. Nyala
10. Grant's gazelle
11. Blesbok
12. Grey duiker
13. Blue duiker
14. Dik dik
15. Klipspringers

If that was the maps roster, id pay 20 or 30$ without hesitation

[untold maple]

My personal plains game list

1. Greater Kudu
2. Impala
3. Sable
4. Eland
5. Roan
6. Nyala
7. Bushbuck
8. (Common) Duiker
9. Blesbok
10. Red Hartebeest
11. Steenbok
12. Black wildebeest
13. (Remastered) Lion
    14.(remastered) Warthog
14. (Remastered) Blue wildebeest

I think this list would definitely make for a legendary map. But even a lot of these animals don’t have to be on this one. Like Roan could easily go on a Cameroon map instead of a South African map

I feel like greater kudu, impala, and sable are three absolutely must have species, if Africa 2.0 is going to be a southern or eastern African map

[patent agate]

I'm seriously considering doing an African themed dlc thread including an outfit and rifle, and vehicle

[untold maple]

Do it

[patent agate]

#1438718705973592086

[untold maple]

Wow, while back I joked at this point we’ll see a Scotland(maybe it’s France but I doubt that) map before Africa 2.0…and here it is🥲

[tranquil phoenix]

DAY 671 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0 AND DAY 15 SINCE REACHING 2000 UPVOTES

[amber kindle]

EW is recycling the assets.

[olive axle]

Hopefully they at least gave the European Hare and Roe Deer a remodel like they did for the Boar and Red Deer

But yeah would’ve preferred to see this or the pamir mountains Tajikistan that Resonant Weevil suggested

[amber kindle]

The remodeled Roe Deer is confirmed.

[olive axle]

Ignore me I’m dyslexic lol 🤦

[amber kindle]

This map is a candidate with less possibility. I love hunting in Tayikistan because I am a mountain man.

[olive axle]

Where was it confirmed anyhow? Idk how I missed that.

[amber kindle]

It is fine

[amber kindle]

From @hybrid sundial

[hybrid sundial]

Doc honse actually

[olive axle]

Hopefully the antlers get a tweak (or at least new variants) as well hard to tell if the ones in the photo r new but I can’t remember a rack like that. Tho they’re all so similar at that size I could be wrong.

[amber kindle]

The Roe Buck of the photo has to be a Level 1 animal. Small antlers.

[olive axle]

That or a very small 2 who has the lvl 1 antlers but the lvl 2 weight (uncommon but happens sometimes)

[amber kindle]

People believe the next Great One is Roe Deer.

[olive axle]

I don’t really care about g1s but I’d guess it’s either roe deer, wild boar, or the red deer g1 getting redone. But either way I won’t be going for em.

[amber kindle]

That’s fair

[plucky quarry]

Once again I'm saddened not to receive Africa 2.0

[untold maple]

Maybe they made this map full of repeats so they could have more time to work on African animals?

[final current]

That would make sense seeing as how New England Mountains came with that massive set of backfills

[patent agate]

I once again must ask this question:

HOW MANY FREAKING RED DEER MAPS ARE THEY GOING TO FORCE ON US?

[amber kindle]

I think the Scotland map will have pheasant and this animal will have 7 maps (6 maps for red deer).

[patent agate]

#1439006103919661198

[final current]

After this they better not make a red deer map till we have the following: Several more African Maps, the Canadian Arctic, 1 or 2 more South American Maps and a couple more Asian Maps

[runic mesa]

We did see maps that featured a lot of repeats (New England Mountains), before we got a map that featured several new species (Emerald Coast and Sunderpatan). My thoughts is that EW saves money on animal models on these maps that can then be used for future DLC, but while still gaining funds from DLC sales with less new species. I'm hoping after the December release they will have the funds to work on Mongolia or Africa 2.0 which would bring a tonne of unique animals.

[old saffron]

I just figured Mongolia would’ve been still familiar enough to be done especially since our last map was askiy (which while very good and brought very unique animals to the table, still predominately featured old species, even if reworked) but whatever, maybe it was still too many new animals / too much along side the new lodge features

Can’t really know, all I know is I’m hoping it’s still enjoyable to run around on. I wasn’t expecting Africa this map release anyway, just Mongolia. Askiy is still great even if it was a bit disappointing it wasn’t a full arctic map

[runic mesa]

I can't think of any other reason EW would avoid Africa except for the amount of work such a map would take. They could create an entire game featuring only African species and still stuggle to fit every African game animal into it. Every African reserve could feature an entire roster of unique species if they wished, so modelling every animal would be a major challenge and would be a lot more expensive than any other continent.

[old saffron]

They’ve stated they want to fix up and advance the lodges more before Africa, which is why I was not expecting Africa

[runic mesa]

I agree on Mongolia, while gazelle and argali etc. would be pretty unique many species such as wapiti and Siberian roe deer could basically be remodels of existing species and would be much less work.

[runic mesa]

And this of course, gotta have a lodge that can fit elephants first lol

[dire prism]

as an added note they begin research and plan out reserves as much as 3 years beforehand with 2 years often being the minimum; given they only really noticed the traction this thread got around middle of last year they likely had to change plans to implement any kind of african reserve and it still wont come tile sometime next year in the development cycle

[old saffron]

I didn’t know that about the development time 🤔 but I still wasn’t expecting an African map till next year at the very earliest because of the lodge thing

[untold maple]

Indricotherium has miraculously and spontaneously become De-extinct and is roaming South Africa(and you could legally hunt it)

What dangerous game rifle are you using?

[patent agate]

Or .458 Lott

[untold maple]

Nice choices

[patent agate]

I remember them from ARK.

I didn't like them

[patent agate]

Actually, im interested. Answer your own question

[final current]

Ah yes, Paraceratherium (Indricotherium is considered synonymous due to taxonomic naming rules). I would probably go with a double rifle chambered in no less then 470 Nitro Express or a bolt-action no smaller then 416 Rigby

[untold maple]

Nothing smaller than a 500 nitro express. Dare I even say, maybe a 4 boar might be recommended(for as crazy as it is)

[patent agate]

Considering the size of this particular animal, a mild explosive bullet would probably be fairly effective.

Also, why does no one in the JP movies use explosive rounds? That would literally solve so many problems

[untold maple]

Because so far the only competent character in the franchise was Roland Tembo

[patent agate]

That's fair, ironically he was the first person I had in mind for the African outfit in that thread I made lol

[mighty void]

I think those 2 scientists and those kids were mildly competent to

[untold maple]

It’s a good safari outfit for sure

The shorts are not too short(unlike how so many South Africans wear shorts, cover your thighs please they are very blinding!)

[untold maple]

Nah, Timmy could have walked over and gave Allen the shotgun. But instead He just hovered over his sister while the raptor was trying to get in!

[patent agate]

They can be seen from space, I swear

[untold maple]

Exactly! Why would you even wear the shortest of short shorts in an environment where every single plant is covered in inch long thorns?

And what’s even crazier is that if it gets chilly outside(the coldest it gets during their winter is around 60 degrees) they will put on a jacket but keep the short shorts on!

[patent agate]

Are you cold?

WEAR PANTS

No see, even here, wyoming. I still see people going out in shorts when its literally snowing and they have the severe lack of brain cells to say "oh its so cold today isn't it"?

Yes, because you're out here wearing a stretched out speedo you idiots!

[final current]

Every winter here in Alberta when I was a kid it was always at least one guy shorts on the "warmer" winter days, the amount of people with too much confidence during winter is crazy

[patent agate]

You know for a fact at least one dude ended up with frostbitten acorns because they thought they were fine

[mighty void]

I wear pants all year around, sometimes multiple but I've been known to occasionally wear my German Adidas slides in winter tho I do it much more in summer ofc

[patent agate]

Do you think or I guess how many animals do you think have spooked because they could see the guides pasty white thighs from miles away?

[untold maple]

When I lived in Utah one time I watched a man shovel his driveway during a blizzard wearing flip flops, basketball shorts, and a sleeveless shirt. It made no sense to me

[untold maple]

Definitely some, but most of the time when on a stalk they’re bending down so I don’t think that matters as much
(I had a 5’3 ph tell me to bend down lower than him, I’m 6’5 that was virtually impossible, I had to walk like a penguin and he still told me to get lower)

[patent agate]

I can understand this, im 6'3" so I get the issue with actually making yourself smaller

[untold maple]

It’s okay though, he was crazy good PH

[patent agate]

That's fine but dude, its not like every other guy can fold up like a lawn chair

[untold maple]

RIGHT!!!

[patent agate]

I worked with a guy once would could actually walk in a squat so deep it left drag marks and my boss asked why I wasn't going under the trailers like he did to do installs.
Man was literally 5'0 and went under 3' somewhat upright

Built like a furby

[untold maple]

Oh why can’t you do the same things as me
CUZ I’LL BRAKE MY BACK IF I DID WHAT YOU DO!🤣

[patent agate]

Im tall but also apparently have unusually broad shoulders, I have to turn sideways to get through doors in older buildings so I could literally get stuck under there too

[runic mesa]

Too long, stubbies are the go to for shorts in NZ. I always hunt in rugby shorts lol

[untold maple]

And that makes sense for New Zealand(unless you’re hunting Tahr in the mountains). But here’s the thing…in Africa everything is covered in inch long thorns

Every single bush behind and in front of that giraffe is covered in them

And ticks, ran into a nest of those one time, that was fun(not)

[runic mesa]

I feel like guys have been running around Africa with less than shorts for millennia. I’d be more concerned with heat than thorns, I’d definitely be wearing shorts anyway.

[ivory summit]

guilty as charged

I just can't bring myself to wear long pants in the veld, even though every time I come back home I've got at least one more cut that broke the skin

[untold maple]

I was calling you out specifically😂

[patent agate]

I used to live in Tennessee. Farm country. That usually means rusty barbwire and mile long patches of greenbriar.

I'll stick with my heavy canvas brush pants because I want to at least lessen the chance of a 2 in thorn punching holes in my bits

[ivory summit]

I had a feeling hey 😂

[tranquil phoenix]

To be fair you can still hunt Tahr in NZ with shorts 😂 especially in summer

DAY 672 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0 AND DAY 16 SINCE REACHING 2000 UPVOTES

[patent agate]

I swear, British people went to Africa noticed it was somewhat warm and immediately decided to wear nothing but their boxers and call.it fashion

[patent agate]

Found another answer to this question, a 10ga version of this

[dire prism]

Jesus H. Christ

[patent agate]

What? That's a big animal

[dire prism]

wound channel from hell

[patent agate]

Bows kill by causing bleeding, this isn't much different

[glad loom]

Somebody said the new teaser looks like Congo 💀

[dire prism]

how does someone get congo from red deer, a castle, and a tin flute 😭

[final current]

Copium

[untold maple]

That hurts me in so many ways

[tranquil phoenix]

DAY 673 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0 AND DAY 17 SINCE REACHING 2000 UPVOTES

[patent agate]

So, would y'all hunt with this?

[runic mesa]

I’ve always wanted a Martini-Henry or Martini-Enfield so definitely. They were the most popular pig guns in NZ during the late 19th and well into the 20th centuries. I’d say a Martini-Enfield in .303 would still be great in a pinch when chasing boars behind dogs which is what I’d like one for. They’re still pretty common here but hard to find one that hasn’t seen over a century of hard use 😅

[patent agate]

I been looking into them but they're kinda few and far between here in the US. Truth be told id love to get one of these and put some custom work into it. New barrel and caliber, custom stock and lever, nice stock, and maybe some nice leather work too

[runic mesa]

Dime a dozen in NZ, they were a cheaper option in the early 20th century than a brand new Lee-Speed or even milsurp Lee-Enfields so most I’ve found weren’t treated all that well. Have seen a few nice examples over the years though. Best bet is importing from a Commonwealth country though I’d imagine that would cost a lot more than one would be worth.

Yikes, not any more apparently 😬 these aren’t good condition rifles either.

Guess they must be getting pretty rare as many of them start to bugger out. They would be cool on an African reserve though as they were used extensively during the Boer War. Can’t see us getting another after the one we had on Sundarpatan though.

[patent agate]

I could probably buy a barreled action easier

[untold maple]

Westly Richard’s makes martini rifles if you want great condition and high quality

[patent agate]

Very much a hear me out choice

[untold maple]

Oh for sure

[patent agate]

That's not a bad idea for a thread, just hear people out for their . . . interesting. . .choices

[untold maple]

A hear me out thread!

That should be an official EW thread

[patent agate]

I have one in mind, and yes, its an old one

[trail loom]

.600 NE would be my choice for any almost any extinct animal over 1t with some exceptions. Roland Tembo knew what was up

[tranquil phoenix]

DAY 674 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0 AND DAY 17 SINCE REACHING 2000 UPVOTES

[mighty rampart]

Do you think a Tru-Tusk system would be possible?

[tranquil phoenix]

Maybe but I'm not sure. I would think it's possible considering we have truracs

[amber kindle]

We are 7 months away from the release of the Africa map (Summer 2026). I want the lion, cape buffalo, and warthog to be remodeled and added as returning species.

Lion 🦁
https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1379686864503574668
https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1246602254333509652

Cape Buffalo 🐃
https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1302074805155139634
https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1260924752126672990

Warthog
https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1358491220946718912

[tranquil phoenix]

Where did you get that from?

[amber kindle]

My hunch 💜

[patent agate]

Can we go a step further and add a Tru-mane system for lion? A scraggly little scruff for lower tiered males progressing up to "blond dude on the cover of a romance novel" level manes for diamonds?

[trail loom]

Tru-size would be awesome but it’s not possible because it’d break multimounts

Wish there was a non-ridiculous way for the devs to do that

[old saffron]

I don’t think it’d really break multimounts, would just make them a lot more work (since they’d have to make a version for each size combo) but I think it’d be worth it. Especially if they could give us the ability to make our own custom multimounts with the base solo trophy poses with a placement system to hold us over till they can add more

[mighty void]

I think it depends on the multymount also, I don't think on some it would change much on others...

[patent agate]

Sincerely wish

[tranquil phoenix]

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Tomorrow I will be leaving to return to Southern Germany and so with me being in Central Sweden right now the drive will be quite long ( about 24hrs roughly ) which means I will not be online from Wednesday up until Friday evening but I will need to unpack and settle in so I will not be back until saturday or sunday. I have created this post in preperation so in theory I don't miss the days ( like I have done in the past ). See you all then guys and keep the noise alive for this suggestion!

Regards, NZ-Alpine-Hunter

[trail loom]

It wouldn’t be real Tru-size, then, just a size for each weight estimate otherwise there would still be clipping in the multimounts. Way better than nothing, but I personally don’t think that’ll ever happen though. The devs would have to make each size variation compatible with every other size variation and these devs don’t strike me as people to do a non-profitable QOL time investment like that

[patent agate]

"Scotland. Because men in skirts are better than the Big Five. I see how it is."

[hybrid sundial]

That face tho 🤣

I think they avoid africa because they cant do elephants and stuff and then rather doing no africa map like a plains game map with plenty of new antelopes then getting even more bashed for doing an africa map without elephants. I yall get what i mean

[old saffron]

They’ve been doing upgrades along side DLC drops, like the recent feeder update combined with the couple of free animal redos and wolf G1, i think it’d be worth it, not to mention the upcoming lodge QOL which sure, pushes lodge DLC sales but doesn’t directly make revenue itself.

I think it’s in the boundaries of what they can do, especially recently

They’ve also seemed interested in redoing the inventory UI with a past thread asking for ideas, which is def a QOL update that doesn’t rlly give them money but makes our lives a lot easier. I don’t rlly think it’s true to say these devs wouldn’t give us free QOL, sure a DLC will come out along side it probably to off set cost and up hype but that doesn’t rlly make the QOL not free

[trail loom]

They can do it, yeah.

I will be pleasantly surprised if they actually do though

[old saffron]

And yeah I agree, probably can’t do real tru size but a size via weight catagorey would be better then nothing, the smallest animals looking like the biggest is a bit sad lol

I do think a mane system on lions and a tru tusk system for elephants is 100 percent possible though

Still wish we got a coat system for tigers they could use w zebras 🥀

[trail loom]

"Tru-stripes" would require procedural texturing I think, which is probably not possible for how they make their models. They'd just have to make a couple common texture variants to mix it up

[chrome crystal]

The greener shotgun

[old saffron]

I was thinking a system where u split the animal into three parts (back middle front) and just have pre made coats for each section that line up no matter how u mix and match, would be a way to make it so you have a lot of combos and make them more unique each time even if u can still get dupes / there is a max amount of combos still

[trail loom]

That would actually be possible I think

[old saffron]

I’d want it for spotted animals and piebald too, really anything like that that can benifit from it

Sure it wouldn’t have infinite possibilities since it’s not a random gen system but much like the sizes via weight range it’s a good compromise imo

[outer zinc]

i think its a good compromise too, a lot of people seem to think that because they did a random generated pattern system in the angler they can do it in cotw, but the thing is that animals are a lot harder to make than fish (i have never played the angler but im certain theres' a lot less animation and modelling and all that involved in fish than there is for animals in cotw) and i feel like setting it up would take a lot more effort and issues

[patent agate]

Interesting as it is, that's not my hear me out weapon for the game

[patent agate]

Apparently there was supposed to be a 3rd version of the .470 that we didn't get for some reason, I searched call of the Wild on artstation.com and found this in the concept art

What happened?! This is thing looks great whyd it get left out?

[trail loom]

That does look very nice

[untold maple]

We could have had an engraved 470?…🥲🥲🥲🥲

[patent agate]

Right?! This would have been so cool as a Vurhonga final mission weapon

I JUST REALIZED THE ENGRAVED ONE GOT LEFT OUT BUT WE GOT THE WEIRD SYNTHETIC STOCKED VERSION

WHY HAVE YOU DONE THIS EW?!

[dawn dew]

Probably decided to make it a future mission reward or something.

[patent agate]

Then why has no one gotten it? If something like this was available it would have been posted somewhere other than a 7 year old artstation.com page

[dawn dew]

Probably in 2.0 or 3.0, etc.

[patent agate]

If Africa 2.0 recycles the same rifle from Vurhonga Savanna half the people in this thread will riot

[untold maple]

Having the synthetic stock for a double barrel rifle before an engraved version is just insane…this is actually madness

I was already feeling really bummed out because of the new map…AND NOW THIS

[patent agate]

My apologies but I'm not enjoying this either

[old saffron]

And much like the other limits this game faces, I think a lot of it is it’s just a game already years into its life. The angler was built w that in mind, COTW was not. I think it’d be plausible in a new game that was built with that system baked into it but it’s probably too difficult to ATP depending on how they make their models.

I think COTW still has plenty of years on it (glad the devs agree w the recent QnA) and while we can’t get these nice sounding systems due to its age, I think there’s still plenty of ways we can work around it as the game is rn besides specific stuff like render distance and cross play

[outer zinc]

yeah, i've said it before - changing to a new engine is possible but it would take a tremendous amount of work

[old saffron]

Do rlly wish we could get those last two mentioned things still but…alas, I don’t think a whole new game is worth it for that

[mighty void]

Men in kilts are hot tbh

[outer zinc]

this tbh

[patent agate]

At least kilts cover more than an African man's shorts

[mighty rampart]

They’ve said a number of times that they are capable of doing elephants, we’re past this

[outer zinc]

and they've also said that they need to rework lodges to make elephants

cant find it but someone said further up they plan maps like a year in advance. the lodge rework isn't even out yet.

[mighty rampart]

They’re messing about with lodge places at the moment, workarounds have also been made such as doing only head mounts. Head mounts are more common than full body mounts irl.

[patent agate]

This is a converted martini that someone made for .375 Flanged magnum supposedly, would you hunt a lion with it?

[outer zinc]

Ah okay, yeah I didn't consider which mounts would be more common
A full body elephant mount would take up so much space lmao

[untold maple]

Saseka could in theory have a platform big enough for elephants if they do a lot of rearrangement

But it would be significantly better if they remastered both lodges(and make the Layton lakes one more customizable, it makes no sense why it can only have base game map animals on it)

[patent agate]

Found this mount and im curious you could do the same with a lion and springbok

[untold maple]

Lion and springbok mount would be cool, especially because springbok doesn’t have a multi mount (actually, how come most of Vurhonga doesn’t get a multi mount? The only ones are lion, Cape buffalo, and lesser kudu)

Here is another pose that would be really cool for lion&springbok

[olive axle]

Few other lion ideas

Here’s a few for the jackal too, could have one for jackal and scrub hare as well but they both need some help model wise.

[patent agate]

Lots of options that just aren't being considered 🤔

I hope 8.4 somehow accounts for them

[mighty void]

Mountain bongo born to eland :0 modern science fascinated me. https://share.google/v0DY96s82RS8wmggV

[patent agate]

Jeez, between this and the wolves it feels like jurassic park is closer every day

[ivory summit]

a little off topic but I got jump-scared by a huge water monitor today

I was out fishing in a spot with quite dense vegetation, bow and arrow casting my fly out into the water when I heard a rustling in the bush which I first though was my friend coming from a weird direction and then about 2 minutes later when I turned around to change spots this big browny-green thing slid into the water in a hell of a hurry, anyways, I shat myself and now I know there's a water monitor longer than a meter that lives at my fishing spot that I've been going to for over 2 years now.

[patent agate]

Stories about Africa don't seem off topic in the Africa thread. Also, a meter long qualifies that as a good trophy

[ivory summit]

Ja that thing would look really good as a full mount of even just a skin

I won't lie, had I seen him before he was at the waters edge I'd have considered tryna catch him just to hold on to him and snap a photo despite the fact that he'd probably bite me pretty hard and whip me with his tail which I've seen them do and that does NOT look fun

[untold maple]

The leather is quite desirable as well

[untold maple]

It’s cloning is such a crazy cool thing

This means Hirola populations can grow from other hartebeest, Giant sable from common sable, sitatunga from Nyala, etc.

Maybe Tibetan antelope and Saiga from pronghorn(maybe)

So many potentials for conservation

[final current]

Tibetan Antelope and Saiga from Pronghorn is more of a stretch then any of the other things you listed, to start with the Pronghorn isn't even within the Bovidae family and their closest living relative happens to be giraffe with their last common ancestor living sometime in the Early Miocene

To further expand, the Tibetan Antelope is more related to sheeps and goats (Caprinae subfamily) while Saiga are closer to Gazelles and Blackbuck (Antilopinae subfamily)

[patent agate]

You need to watch jurassic park again, things do not go well when we clone stuff

[untold maple]

The thing is though, dinosaurs have been gone for far too long to be cloned into existence, the dna just simply is gone after tens of millions of years in the ground

The absolute closest thing we could get to cloning dinosaurs(and they’re not even real dinosaurs, they’re monsters made to look like dinosaurs, that’s the point of Jurassic park) is a chicken with a particularly long tail.

[patent agate]

Brother the idea is the same, genetically altered crocs and cloned sabre toothed cats can kill humans just as easily as any dinosaur and considering they're small enough to easily get into buildings they might be worse

[ivory summit]

don't give me ideas here 😂

[tardy sable]

kudu needs to be class 7 and nala bull needs to ne class 6 and a frmale nala needs to be class 5

[ionic oak]

Bro... just STOP DREAMING you will get NOTHING. To add the "Big Five" as huntable species in Call of the Wild they need to add a new Lodge first that can fit those behemoths. The biggest animals right now are aprox. 1.200 kg and the elephants are 6x that size.

so tell me where do you want to put an animal 6x bigger than the wild yak in your lodge?

[ivory summit]

Probably somewhere here

Granted a full body mount would be a bit of a tight fit and saseka could probably only fit a maximum of about 4 full body mounts, but shoulder mounts will definitely work in saseka, just need some changes to the positioning of plaques

[ivory summit]

Here are some photos from the Letaba Elephant hall in the Kruger National Park for some ideas of how you could fit Elephant trophies into the lodges. I've also included a photo with people for a size comparison

[tranquil phoenix]

DAY 679 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0 AND DAY 22 SINCE REACHING 2000 UPVOTES

[untold maple]

And here is some taxidermy mounts

Sesaka safari has a couple of spots if you rearrange everything, but not spring creek(spring creek is so outdated). But yeah, they really need to remaster the lodges

[tranquil phoenix]

I have another announcement to make. I am now in Germany again and I forgot that the wifi in my apartment is of extremely poor quality on my laptop, so I only run on about 0.10-1.5mb per second and there is no sign of any changes or improvements coming. And I'll be here for the next 13 weeks so unless I can come up with a better solution, I will most likely have to discontinue my daily posts unless someone else is interested in doing it.

[untold maple]

Oh, like these?

[ivory summit]

gonna have to check some legalities and make a plan here now

[tranquil phoenix]

DAY 680 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0 AND DAY 23 SINCE REACHING 2000 UPVOTES

[sick zodiac]

It's been 23 days?!

[tranquil phoenix]

Yep

[tardy sable]

long time

[untold maple]

Last night I had a dream that I was on the new map and the warden was telling me about a trophy lodge, and I was like oh cool so it’s going to be like parque Fernando with the lodge. So than I go inside only to see this exact mount…and then I woke up from pure disappointment

[hybrid sundial]

Had a dream last night that the new g1 is plains bison and it would be backfilled to vurhonga 😭

[dawn dew]

I would be tempted to place this in the bathroom facing the throne. 🤣

[ivory summit]

surely its been sedated...

[untold maple]

The horse is just in the background like “I don’t want none of that smoke”

[patent agate]

The face I'll be making if Africa 2.0 is not the summer 2026 map

[patent agate]

I was looking closer at this to see if maybe it was AI but my wife noticed something and started ranting

His shoelaces are different colors and neither color matches the boots

[warped grail]

Nah it gets a lot of things right that AI would screw up for sure

Like the bridle. I assume the buffalo is darted and he's helping it down

[patent agate]

Alright yeah but dude does not look dressed for field work

[warped grail]

Those are riding clothes

[patent agate]

Kinda exactly what I mean

The difference in how people dress from place to place despite extremely similar climates has always been weird to me

[olive axle]

You can see the dart sticking out of its shank between the man’s hip and the Buffalo

[patent agate]

Flank, shank would be way too low. Just above the "elbow" is the shank

[untold maple]

Exactly, I tell South Africans that leather chaps would be perfect for when in the bush because it’s very similar to the west and chaps would protect their legs from all the inch long thorns….then they look at me weird while wearing the shortest of short shorts

[patent agate]

A good set of leather chaps would be a godsend in sanke country too

[olive axle]

Hard to tell if it’s in the round or back shank but it definitely isn’t in the flank

[patent agate]

Didn't mean flank in a butcher cut sense, more like large animal terminology. Should have probably specified cattleman terms

[olive axle]

That’s still where the flank is lol, the flank is the space between the last rib and the hip

[patent agate]

I'm used to flank being the back leg/rear, I guess that was just my boss though. To clarify, i worked at an exotics ranch in Tennessee for a couple years and whenever we had to tranq animals the boss said aim for the flank and pointed a laser at it

"It feels more respectable than telling you idiots to shoot them in the ass"

[olive axle]

Ah we always would just say the rump but that was referring to horses

[patent agate]

He would get pissed off if we said anything but flank some guess that's just habitual now

[olive axle]

Disliked cussing? Or just a weird control thing?

[dire prism]

Did he just not know about the word haunch?

Edit: Or hind, rear, etc., any other term really. Bro was strange.

[patent agate]

He was a p.i.t.a control freak and fanatical baptist. Hated every second of working with his

[olive axle]

Ah that makes sense

[dire prism]

ah, he was one of those types

[patent agate]

Loved the job, hated the boss situation

[patent agate]

Take it you've met some like him before

[dire prism]

yep

[patent agate]

Hmm, don't miss those days

[ivory summit]

some dudes do that an it annoys me just as much

I do like the green laces with leather boots/vellies though. My vellies actually also have green laces

[patent agate]

Between this information and the conversation with @untold maple about shorts the other day im starting to wonder if you folks are ok out there

[tranquil phoenix]

DAY 681 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0 AND DAY 24 SINCE REACHING 2000 UPVOTES

[patent agate]

That one trunk up in the back

"I'M HERE TOO GUYS!!!"

[ionic oak]

Im for less maps and more bugg fixes,QoL, remodels and more trophy-lodge stuff

[trail loom]

A big five map or atleast the big five spread across a few maps has to be added at least at some point

It’s essentially like a dinosaur game having no Tyrannosaurus rex or raptors. Africas big five is the greatest luxury of hunting

[patent agate]

I won't argue that but I would say the tiny ten are a truly hidden treasure

[olive axle]

Make that a park like Salzwiesen for the future

[ivory summit]

naaaah look how sharp these things look 😂
middle pair is buffalo leather btw

[patent agate]

Im imagining purple and pink strings and cheeks visible from space.

This does not help your case

[ivory summit]

twas worth a shot to explain it
I don't know hey, maybe it's just what we are this side 😂

[patent agate]

To quote red dead redemption.

Vanity is the legacy the British left behind

[ivory summit]

You know, I just remembered that there's actually a South African song about wearing short shorts and it's literally called "wys jou vleis", trust me an google it because it sounds real odd to say on this thread

[untold maple]

I would argue that mountain game(ibex, bighorn, argali, Markhor, ect) have become more of a rich man’s hunt now.

[mighty void]

It has

[untold maple]

Like yes, the big 5 are still expensive, but the most expensive lion hunt in Tanzania is less expensive than the cheapest markhor hunt in Asia(not counting the markhor in Texas)

[mighty void]

Why am I supposed thered makhor in Texas...

[trail loom]

Interesting

[untold maple]

Here is my evidence to back my statement

[patent agate]

That's a beauty, id love that for the wall

[patent agate]

Do you get a toilet made of gold? And diamond boot trays?

[untold maple]

One day….one day

Nah, if I’d ever get to hunt a lion it will probably be Zimbabwe, Mozambique, or Namibia. Better prices than Tanzania.

And I am far too unlikely to ever go on a markhor hunt in Asia. The price jumped a hundred thousand since I checked a while ago, crazy expensive

[patent agate]

I drove to Texas for a Nilgai hunt and paid 140$, 75 of which was my buddy whining until we tried a fancy steakhouse.

16 ounce T-bone my tail, there was more meat on a squirrel's.tail

[untold maple]

Dang! 140 for a nilgai hunt?

[patent agate]

No the hunt was free, that was gas, food, and a new cap

[untold maple]

Dang….just…wow

[patent agate]

Yeah,that's what im sayin

[old saffron]

I feel like I’ve def heard flank used for the back end before too ur not alone 😂

[tranquil phoenix]

DAY 682 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0 AND DAY 25 SINCE REACHING 2000 UPVOTES

[amber kindle]

The upcoming African map is going to need many new species. Can EW exceed our expectations with a cool list of new and returning (remastered) species?

[glad loom]

2 likes in 25 days 💀

[hybrid sundial]

We lost two upvotes if i'm not mistaken so +4-2 💀

[ivory summit]

I think we lost 3 actually
we were on 2004 and now were back down to 2001

[untold maple]

Yeah, we were at 5 the other day

[hybrid sundial]

EW Sees this and thinks: "oh well this post is losing 3 upvotes, the Prof no one wants an africa 2.0"

[untold maple]

Don’t give them any ideas!

[hybrid sundial]

If this Trend goes on NZalpinehunter can post even longer. Day 684 of waiting for africa 2.0 , 27 days since reaching 2000 upvotes and one day since getting under 2000 upvotes

[mighty rampart]

Let’s go through the species list and think of any exotic variations

[untold maple]

I’ll try to randomly get to the top🫡

GOT IT

The trick is to press around somewhere in between the back button and the title

https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1336821988718809119
and here’s the best source to find rare fur colors for African animals

[old saffron]

I mean this is also one of the few suggestions with its first post pinned… 😂

[untold maple]

……now you tell me🥲

[outer zinc]

i dont like this kinda attitude
its not that they dont know about community's wishes for a new africa map its that they only noticed the thread recently (apparently) and they plan out maps in advance before making them

[ivory summit]

So for Impala exotic variations we have, Black, saddle-backed, white-flanked, white, dappled and piebald

[patent agate]

Its literally just because of Discord Mobile's layout. The back arrow is directly above the upvote tag and trying to hit the arrow can make you unvote the post, I've done it like six times

[tranquil phoenix]

Send me your coordinates

DAY 683 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0 AND DAY 26 SINCE REACHING 2000 UPVOTES

[untold maple]

And Tan

[ivory summit]

oh ja I forgot about tan

[patent agate]

Looks like he needs sunscreen out there

[tranquil phoenix]

That coat looks smoother than my fathers bald head

[patent agate]

EW, please Im begging you to give us the Buff Buster

[chrome crystal]

Melanistic Waterbuck!

[patent agate]

Is it me or are his horns pointed forwards?

[chrome crystal]

https://www.dreamstime.com/extremely-rare-melanistic-male-waterbuck-aberdare-national-park-bush-kenya-rainy-da-extremely-rare-melanistic-male-video250575372#ref781

[untold maple]

Should put that over in https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1336821988718809119

[ivory summit]

.416 would be the ultimate 7-9 with the current class system

[tranquil phoenix]

DAY 684 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0 AND DAY 27 SINCE REACHING 2000 UPVOTES

[patent agate]

EW "we want to make Africa 2.0but the current lodges arent suitable for animalsof that size"

"We're working on a rework of the current lodges, please keep an eye on it"

"Cosmetics DLC to make your lodge sparkly"

"Why is everyone upset? We worked on the lodge like we said?"

I WONDER

[untold maple]

It’s outrageous! They’re charging us for an update(a dlc for a dlc as a lot of people are calling it) for the lodges.
This is something EA or Ubisoft would do, I’m so disappointed at EW right now

[patent agate]

I'll buy the map, but the lodge cosmetics are beyond pointless for.me

[desert raptor]

only the premium mounts are paid everyone still gets customizable mounts

[patent agate]

Said this earlier, but im not a fannof how much the devs are focusing on monetized cosmetics compared to things we actually need

[untold maple]

Of course
Maps, weapons, equipment like feeders, the skin packs they have. That makes sense to buy, and I’ll gladly spend money on those, because that’s actual content(except for most of the skin packs because I don’t like most of those).

But this? This is just wrong. If they are willing to charge the consumer for dlc for a dlc what else are they willing to charge? New animals on older maps? Individual weapons? That’s what this pack represents to me, and I’m so upset by it

[patent agate]

Individual weapons at the right price, im okay with. The majority of this crap im not willing to buy. This dlc for a dlc bull just doesn't work and I don't think theyve even considered that console players have to pay extra to even show their lodges to their friends

[untold maple]

Exactly!

[patent agate]

I mean, 3$ for a new pair of binos, a 2-8 rifle scope, maybe a light tent, sure. Easy.

3$ for a dlc that already cost me 8$ just to change the shape of a plaque? No thanks

[warped grail]

Yeah this should totally have been free

[patent agate]

There actually is a free one! And that's the dumb part! You get 40 plaques free and they still decided to offer "premium" designs for more money rather than something actually useful or fun

[old saffron]

Set yourself up for failure on this one, I never got the idea they’d be redoing lodges this update for sizes. You’re also downplaying it but this has also been a requested feature for a while, even if it’s not one you personally prioritize.

Also comparing this to EA or Ubisoft is actually laughable I’m sorry. I’d personally much rather cosmetic DLC (where we also have free options) than continuing to buy gun packs for basically 1 weapon when the base game still doesn’t have good non dlc options for some classes.

[old saffron]

I’m sure a new lodge that can fit elephants to what we need is at the very least on their development cycle list, this update contains plenty of stuff we needed / wanted for lodges, with more then half of it being free and the other part being 4 dollars, cosmetic only, and will go on sale just like everything else.

Even the “DLC for DLC” thing isn’t really true, given we do have a free lodge, they just need to remove the species restrictions, and they’ve been needing to do that LONG before this

[hybrid sundial]

Dont forget the fact they need to effort the Update somehow. And ya'll are also forgetting, same with the regular cosmetic packs, that those for the most part are done by the Designers. Not the devs that Code new stuff. So nobody is missing out on on crazy new Features when the Designers do something diffrent that they want.

[old saffron]

Anyway, back to Africa, looking forward to what various African species will look like on some of these new plaques / mounts

[tranquil phoenix]

DAY 685 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0 AND DAY 28 SINCE REACHING 2000 UPVOTES

[patent agate]

Oh I know they're heavily requested features and it makes a huge difference in QOL for some folks. But my issue is that its all cosmetics.

You can't expect me to believe it was entirely too difficult to create something that affects the gameplay. I mean literally anything.

Some binoculars with an extra level of magnification, a reskinned 3-7 scope for the rifles, a reskinned turkey decoy for capercaillie. Maybe at the absolute least a change to the class of a weapon or two

[old saffron]

You mean like the new gun coming with the new map?

[patent agate]

The new gun using old ammo.

I seriously don't see why there was no way at all to make something helpful aside from the cosmetics

[old saffron]

Just don’t buy it. A cosmetic pack (which isn’t something new for COTW) with something randomly shoved in it to make it “worth it” sounds super weird. They did plenty of “functional” stuff this update even if once again personally you do not favor them.

[patent agate]

Why are you so offended by this? Im not saying its useless or they didn't do real work, just that cosmetics are not something we need so much focus on

[old saffron]

Not offended just annoyed you’re conflating personal taste (you definitely insinuated the new content was useless lol) with objectively bad content and acting like EW promised what you expected when they didn’t. Disliking content is perfectly fine but the way some people are going about it is rather annoying

[patent agate]

Alright well, let me put it this way Cosmetics are useless to me (console players are charged irl money to show them off to anyone anyway)

What does bother me is that appearance and Cosmetics are being prioritized over gameplay features that have been requested just as long as the ones theyve added.

The new UI is a huge step forward and I legitimately love the look of the Roe deer remodel more than any animal in game atm.

I just don't get why things like plaques shapes and colors are held more valuable than issues like the ballistics system that hasn't been touched since January of 2020 despite more than a dozen new additions or the lack of something as basic as binoculars and scopes.

I'm glad people are happy with the new stuff and the devs are doing really good work but I just don't understand why the looks and cosmetic stuff is taking such a high priority

I mean like how hard could it possibly be to add a toggle so that you could switch the NV binoculars to a daylight mode? Even something that small could be a massive upgrade

[old saffron]

I could ask the same, given this is the first time we’ve gotten anything relating to lodges besides some new multimounts in years 🤷 again it’s a personal taste thing to me rather then anything actually up with EWs priorities

I’m gunna stop going back and fourth about this since this just seems like you want what you want only, but I do hope we get some of the stuff you’re wishing for soon

[patent agate]

Right, you definitely won this

[old saffron]

I don’t wanna “win” anything since this is still just a discussion at the end of the day and we’re all wanting the best for the game ^^ but even if it’s an update not for you, just think of it as an investment for the stuff you do want hopefully in the future with the money they make from it! What I’ll continue to do for updates that don’t appeal to me lolll

I’m so looking forward to people using those nice white mounts for stuff like albino lions, and then thinking about that but also a lion model update one day 👀

[desert raptor]

i really hope we get this map down the line (2026 i hope)

[outer zinc]

Yeah, late 2026 or early 2027 is my guess for something Africa judging by how they plan future maps out

Also re: cosmetics conversation;

I understand some people dont really care much about cosmetics and customisation especially since this is a hunting game and I personally haven't bought any gun customisation DLC aside from one (that might have been free with the map? I don't remember buying it lmao, it's the NEM pack) but I do like customisation and others like it as well. In my opinion customisation is a nice bonus, I love my wood stock on my guns (wish the free ones weren't so bad 😭) and I like to make things my own/personalised rather than the same as everyone else's - part of the reason why I like to do grinds on maps that aren't 'optimal' such as my EC fallow grind and my Medved wolf grind.

Cosmetics aren't for everyone but they are for some, hence why I don't mind cosmetics updates and I'd actually like more for character customisation if they ever implement something like Classic's trophy photo mode. I do think that cosmetics should not be the main focus of every DLC but having something that's for customisation and personalisation is neat every once in a while.

What they've done with trophy lodges this coming update is a big step toward that imo, shows they are listening to the community even if some things take time. We should be grateful the development team is receptive of feedback and open to the opinion of the playerbase, a lot of games/dev teams aren't as welcoming to things like that and I am happy EW is one of those teams that do care.

[old saffron]

its also an odd thing to me, since id rather pure customization over actual gameplay features be locked behind cash, which i thought was the prevailing thought with other gamers, but seems to be the exact opposite for many people here. i'd personally rather actual gameplay additions be made base game (therefore more accessible to more people) and the customization can grease the money wheels since its purely optional, but i guess not? obviously i dont want the crap AAA games do where they make 60$ skins or gamepasses that lock customization behind it or loot boxes for skins but a 4$ DLC for something you can entirely ignore, has plenty of content within it, and get free options alongside seemed entirely fair and like a good monetization decision to me 😭 maybe its because im someone whos bought all the gun wraps (they where all like. extremely cheap at the time and i went eh what the hell) but this as a DLC doesnt seem any different then that / what theyve been doing already and no ones busted their lid with the gun wrap DLCs, which IMO are "less" then the new trophy lodge DLC and the new DLC is only a dollar more!

i agree with the hunter customization!! my dream for trophy shots besides existing was more player customization options (maybe with trophy shots i will care more about me running arctic cameo in EC or Sundar 😂), the ability to hang them up in lodges, and a human model update because 😬 on the current human model.

id love to see a day where me dropping enough cash on customization DLC makes the ATV and tent DLC free for my fellow PC gamers since THAT is something that should be free! also maybe a new free lodge or at least the base lodge having its species restrictions removed!

[outer zinc]

ye i agree with this lmao

[warped grail]

Yeah the human model needs improvement

Hell, you can make it less photorealistic to be more optimized while having more customization.

[patent agate]

I have been e-mailing a guide in South Africa about a small plains game hunt and we talked in a VC for rhe first time earlier today and he actually said (quoting a professional guide here)

"I've learned to judge how much trouble someone will be by listening to how they speak and the questions they ask. I would genuinely love to have you as a client, please give them my name when you book"

He didn't explain what TH he meant and im sitting here confused af

[untold maple]

Basically, if the client says he wants to hunt a buffalo with a 45-70

Or if the client consistently asks about prices and or deals

[patent agate]

I said I wanted to hunt impala with a .30-30 but I don't really see how that's something that makes trouble for the guide or trackers, didn't talk about the price tho. I figured 3k is kinda on the cheap side but the tents are really nice

[untold maple]

Oh yeah, you’ll be fine
He said he love to have you as a client, that’s a good thing.

[patent agate]

I'd definitely hunt buffalo with a .45-70 but this is just a pretty basic plains game hunt. Impala, zebra and blesbok.

Im kinda surprised he didn't complain about the .30-30 tbh

[dire prism]

He's probably happy to not have a 5 millionth client with magnumitis who wants to bring something like .300RUM to shoot a 85lb impala

[untold maple]

Mostly because it’s on a plains game hunt and not dangerous game. Also because impala and blesbok aren’t that big and tough like kudu.

I would definitely want to watch that hunt though. That sounds fun(saw a video of guy hunt a buffalo with a 405 fairly recently, that was a fun watch)

[patent agate]

I'm helping a couple guys build. 9.3 RUM actually.

Anyway yeah I was talking with him about it and he said like 95% of his clients take shots within 150 yards so I figure my .30-30 that's worked just fine on elk should work there.

Actually, just remembered I have killed a donkey with it, zebras are just donkeys with a complex

[dire prism]

Zebras are donkeys with a complex and on PEDs

I call em prison donkeys.

[patent agate]

He asked if I had been tent camping and I almost laughed, the tents on their website are basically wall tents on a deck.

Like, that's glamping

[warped grail]

Yeah African hunts can have pretty cushy accommodations

[untold maple]

The PH : oh yeah, we really like to rough it around here

Yep, we’re in the deep bush here

[dire prism]

yo its the Vurhonga outpost

[untold maple]

Only the toughest can survive out here…would you like to try some kudu pate with that?
Anyways, as I was saying, ONLY THE STRONGEST CAN HANDLE OUR HUNTS

This tent has a chandelier, that’s insane to think about

[outer zinc]

😭 i love this

[tranquil phoenix]

DAY 686 AND 687 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0 AND DAY 28 AND 29 SINCE REACHING 2000 UPVOTES

[ivory summit]

Literally nicer than the accommodation I've stayed in
The photo I got here is from the places website cuz I deleted the ones I took, I must say tho, I've never seen grass there so idk how old this photo is

[patent agate]

I'VE SPENT A WEEK UNDER A TARP WITH SLEET EVERY DAY AND YOU HUNT LIKE THIS?!

[untold maple]

Nah, all I did was google safari camp and these were the results😂

[patent agate]

This is the kinda sh*% they put up in a suburb and swear its wilderness so they can charge you a liver and five kidneys for a night's sleep with some dipstick in a bush playing indistinct animal sounds on a loudspeaker annoying you half to death

[untold maple]

No joke, right after I read this I switched over to google and this was the first thing I saw. This is at the San Diego zoo, they charge people to go “CAMPING”🤣🤣🤣

It’s crazy to think that people would pay to go sleep in a zoo for a night and call it a safari

[patent agate]

"Oh mummy let us go camping in Africa without leaving a major city in the US"

Disney kids mentality

You just know this was some grimy streetweasel's half ar*e get rich quick scheme that makes a bundle off wannabe eco nerds

[warped grail]

It's a good compromise

[main knot]

https://tenor.com/view/why-tho-cute-kid-gif-17937097

[warped grail]

It's basically "I wanna have a safari experience with my family but flying to Africa is a pain times 10000" so zoos and safari parks in America have overnight experiences

Also doing that sorta stuff with kids makes it even more of a pain

And I'm not rly mad about it being mostly for money because imagine the food and vet bills

[chrome crystal]

One of South Africa's most beautiful Antelopes

[warped grail]

The lack of cool antelope in the game rn is the reason I rly badly want a new African map.

[chrome crystal]

we need africa 2.0 so badly

[pulsar oak]

It's not that bad, I would imagine most people are aware it's just sleepover in a zoo and not a surviving in a wildnerness. I tried it once in my local zoo, it was fine. There were mostly families with small children. Main reason was because people staying at the camp can stay in the zoo before and after closing hours, and dodge the crowds.

[warped grail]

Oh no I agree

Especially for dodging crowds. I often visit the Bronx Zoo and what I tell people is to come during May, June, or September on a weekday. It's warm but the kids are in school

You can go even further and pick a cloudy or rainy day

[chrome crystal]

Im kind of disappointed with the Scotland DLC except the remodel of some animals. I feel it should've been Africa or some other place

If we include the Scotland reserve 5 of the reserves are in Europe

[final current]

So the United States and Europe are tied then

[olive axle]

I’m hoping it means they’re planning for something big, if they’re conserving resources on animals perhaps that means they’ll be working on a lot of new species?

[chrome crystal]

But they should do more stuff in Africa or even Asia

[final current]

I would wait for a Canadian Arctic Reserve if it means next year is all about Africa

[olive axle]

Or an actual South American map but Africa is far more popular

[chrome crystal]

and improve things in North America

[final current]

The Guiana Region (Guyana, Suriname, French Guiana), Peru, Northern Argentina. Its safe to say South America still has some untouched areas as far as the game is concerned

[pulsar oak]

Yeah, it's the same where I live, even tho none of the zoos I visited are as big as Bronx zoo. If they have animals from colder climate, it's a worth visiting in december, january or february. Muskox or wolverines in nearby zoo are most active during these months.

[chrome crystal]

They always seem to focus on Europe and it's repetitive and annoying

[olive axle]

Yes majorly, it’s a shame that the South American map we have only has 3 “native” species so some backfilling would be welcome there as well

[final current]

After Scotland we need at least a 3 year break from both Europe and the United States

[final current]

The Peccary isn't even found in the part of Argentina where Parque is set, they would have been better off backfilling Mouflon to the reserve but there are some interesting native species like Guanaco, Viscachas and some birds that would fit Parque well

[chrome crystal]

I wouldn't mine a reserve in the United States or Canada but it has to be something else than Europe!

[olive axle]

True I suppose they saw “native to parts of northern Argentina” and said whatever it needs an animal, good enough like how they did on Africa with the wigeon.

[olive axle]

Wouldn’t mind Greenland either that would be a decent Arctic reserve

[pulsar oak]

If thy do another map, it better be what everybody thought Askiy ridge would be, so musk ox, polar bears, etc. Other than that, I would love to see Mongolia

[chrome crystal]

Speaking of remodels

[olive axle]

Basically the entirety of Vurhonga needs em?

[chrome crystal]

Lions, Springboks, Cape Buffalo and remove the lesser kudu and replace it with the greater kudu

[warped grail]

I'd make Vurhonga a Kalahari map and then skew the map and animals towards that

[olive axle]

Yep, jackal needs it bad as well, warthog would benefit too and gemsbok might be able to slide by for a bit longer but I would not complain if they gave em a facelift along with the wildebeest ( also scrub hare all the hares in game need some help)

[chrome crystal]

And add Waterbuck Impala maybe Hartebeest and Leopards!

[olive axle]

Also either ditch the wigeon or add something better in their place like Guinea fowl or something

[mighty void]

I think replacing it with something like bushbuck or Impala, fits their size and role on the map better.

[final current]

Polar Bears and Musk Oxen you say, I have a thread that offers both (Alongside Dall's Sheep and Walrus) -> #1070045518002147458

[mighty void]

https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1375853270890840245 😉😉, his map is great tho

[final current]

If they were to replace the Eurasian Wigeon I would personally like to see a duck species from Southern Africa like the Cape Teal or Yellow-billed Duck and limit their range to the really wet areas of Vurhonga therefore leaving room for Guineafowl

[chrome crystal]

Egyptian Goose

[olive axle]

Yeah 💯, anything that fits the map better is good with me

[patent agate]

Impala. You mean impala should replace kudu

[tranquil phoenix]

DAY 688 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0 AND DAY 29 SINCE REACHING 2000 UPVOTES

[ivory summit]

I'd be over the moon happy if EW gave us a nice plains game oriented map with all the antelope

I mean I can easily list 15 antelope species that you could find on one map so there is no shortage and they're the main thing everyone hunts anyways. There's also no shortage of space for maps with different animal rosters either

[warped grail]

Hence why I'd like a nice Kalahari plains game map

[ivory summit]

I'd kill for a good kalahari/Ovamboland/caprivi map

[warped grail]

My ideal Africa loadout would be

Kalahari
Bushveld (bordering SA and Zim)
Cameroon
Ethiopia
Maybe Tanzania

[chrome crystal]

Transvaal

[ivory summit]

North and West Transvaal would be great

[untold maple]

……we lost another like🥲

Why did they have to switch it to most recently posted? It’s killing all the good threads

[olive axle]

That might have been me, must’ve accidentally bumped it last night. Whoops, touchscreen problems

[patent agate]

Alright, due to holiday schedule tomfoolery, our DnD group is short two players. A decision was made to run a short campaign with a new setting until everyone got back on track.

Do to well placed bribes of baked goods and alcohol, the setting is a homebrew called Afaria that is heavily inspired by Africa.

I have successfully herded more interest toward Africa 2.0

[untold maple]

I gotta know, does your character look like an old fashioned safari hunter?

[patent agate]

Is that Clint Eastwood?

[untold maple]

Yeah, white hunter black heart

[patent agate]

Will be watching that ASAP

To answer your question, yes. My wife is playing a know it all biologist/healer, im the hunter recruited from entirely the wrong wilderness, and her best friend is playing a minotaur cape buffalo ( zootopia has done. . .strange things)

That is an 1895 on the wall behind him. . .

[untold maple]

Zootopia has done strange things🤣🤣

[patent agate]

Its a joke online but omg when you meet someone who is actually into it. The way she described that cop in zootopia was absolutely worrying

[final current]

A minotaur based on a Cape Buffalo sounds terrifying considering the Cape Buffalos temperament and the original minotaur myth as a man-eating monster

[patent agate]

It does and I actually thought it was an insanely cool idea at first then I learned her actual plans with the character and I suddenly very concerned

[final current]

I can only imagine

[untold maple]

Everything is just getting funnier🤣
Please, continue

[patent agate]

I would be banned if I explained it like she did.

The minotaur is looking for a wife who is not a minotaur is as far as im willing to go

[final current]

Fair enough

[untold maple]

……….dang….just…dang

[patent agate]

The police chief of zootopia has some very interesting fans

[untold maple]

Yeah zootopia has a very unhinged fan base🤣

[patent agate]

Anyway yeah, freaky crap aside theres a lot you can do with an African themed dnd. There's gryfs and loxodonts (if im spelling those right

[untold maple]

I have no idea what those are, I’ve never played dnd so idk

[patent agate]

Giff, the space hippo with a gun and loxodon, the humanoid elephant shatter-your-skull-inator

Yeah im new to dnd too. Used to bully the kids who played it in high-school

[untold maple]

Interesting

That hippo looks like an esteemed gentleman

[patent agate]

Its Canon in our group that they have an overly posh British accent

But for some reason its universally agreed the elephants sound like aussies

[final current]

I see that range map included the North China Leopard (Panthera pardus japonensis) into the Amur Leopard, I have heard that they are looking for evidence to either support the lumping of the North China Leopard into the Amur Leopard OR splitting them back into their respective subspecies

[mighty void]

I also noticed that

[ivory summit]

I'd imagine the bulls, especially big ones would sound bogan while the cows would be more refined

[patent agate]

I can see that, fits weirdly well

[tranquil phoenix]

DAY 689 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0 AND DAY 30 SINCE REACHING 2000 UPVOTES

[tranquil phoenix]

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[tranquil phoenix]

DAY 691 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0 AND DAY 32 SINCE REACHING 2000 UPVOTES

[mighty void]

This thread has also seen better days 😔

[untold maple]

Yeah not much happing during the last couple days

It seems like every time a new map comes out this thread gets really quiet

I don’t know if it’s because of disappointment or something else, but this thread definitely goes quiet during December

[mighty void]

It does

[patent agate]

Idk either, if TNS doesn't change something for me I think im gonna take a long break, may leave the server for a while. Games not as fun as it used to feel

That said, I'll come back for Africa 2.0 of course but I hope you and everyone I the thread enjoy the game

[untold maple]

Yeah I feel the same way
I haven’t played COTW since Scotland was announced

And they unnecessarily killed the feedback channel. I understand not wanting bumps(which was becoming out of control), but now I’m seeing a lot more threads become read only, and now all the really good threads have been buried underneath a mountain of single sentence threads. I feel like they did too much damage while in pursuit of damage control

[patent agate]

Yeah, it kinda murdered meaningful engagement and because no one searches for anything theres even more repeat posts and nonsense piling up.

Honestly though my enthusiasm for the game kinda died when they started focusing on Great Ones so much they neglected the rest of the game

[tranquil phoenix]

DAY 692 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0 AND DAY 33 SINCE REACHING 2000 UPVOTES

[untold maple]

Man, I’m really hoping the summer map is going to be Africa or the arctic right now

The Scotland map looks so boring, I really need something exotic to keep me going

[mighty void]

It does look fun for a europe map but I agree, central Asia also especially nice

[mighty rampart]

Let’s hope!

[warped grail]

A Central Asia map in this engine would look spectacular

[untold maple]

I think I know how you feel about the new map

But in your own words, how do you feel about the Scottish map?

[chrome crystal]

Speaking of africa
If we ever get an african map there needs to be that kind of trophy.

[final current]

I did just type out a short summary for bigger reserves over on #1070045518002147458 but I feel this reserve concept would benefit from being twice the size of a standard reserve, as having a larger area size means that more animals and especially the Dangerous 7 could comfortably fit while still being a challenge to hunt

[old saffron]

Iirc I thought there was a whole thing about them only being able to have so many animals on one reserve without performance issues? I figure what we have now is the performance max and I don’t rlly think it’s inherently bad to have everything split up across multiple reserves rather then trying to jam it all onto one, I’d honestly prefer it

[final current]

That is fair

[old saffron]

Plus imagine the price tag 😂

I get the temptation to have one huge map though, would be crazy lol

[final current]

This does bring me to something I am pretty sure I have said before: We need a whole year just for Africa.

In my mind this would include

• A new Trophy Lodge with room for elephants and what not
• An African Plains Game Reserve, preferrably one that has both Lesser Kudu and Impala so that the Impala can be used to replace the Lesser Kudu over on Vurhonga (Uganda and Tanzania has both species)
• A Weapon Pack that would be suitable for hunting large African Game. I would like to see a 405 Winchester Lever-action, a 416 Bolt-action and a new Double Rifle (Over/Under or Express Side-by-side)
• Africa 2.0 with the Dangerous 7

[untold maple]

Year of the (insert African animal) I LOVE IT

An entire year of safari based dlc’s would knock the ball out of the park! It would restore my faith in EW again

[patent agate]

Year of the Leopard or Year of the Impala are the only acceptable answers here

[chrome crystal]

Or even Lechwe

[patent agate]

Unacceptable. Must be leopard or impala

[final current]

As cool as Lechwe would be, I am for either Leopard or Impala, both have a pretty wide distribution across Africa while the Lechwe is only really found in South-Central Africa (And Nile Lechwe mostly live in South Sudan and the southeastern corner of Ethiopia) so unless the Plains Game map is set in Zambia, Impala and Leopard

[untold maple]

As much as I love lechwe(black lechwe in particular) you gotta admit it would be really hard to advertise a little known species of antelope

The average person knows the dangerous 7, giraffe, zebra, and impala(and maybe kudu and sable). Everyone knows what those animals are. So it makes sense using one of them

I’m not trying to downplay lechwe here, but we are(relatively) a very small number of people who know the difference between a Common Lechwe and a Nile lechwe. It doesn’t really make a lot of sense to advertise to us very few. If you ask a random person on the street what a lechwe is they would look at you funny(which is very sad in opinion, but it is true)

[mighty void]

I think that refers to like density and loaded animals, so no giant dove flocks

[old saffron]

rlly? i figured salz wouldve been an issue then, im not quite entirely sure i just heard smth like it

[mighty void]

Well the animals are still not super ultra concentrated, there's also people who experience performance issues on salz and rev

[mighty rampart]

I’ve seen people ask for a Scottish map before, but not in a massive capacity. Frustrating that Africa 2 is still not here.

But equally it gets mentioned by name now every Q&A so it will happen. Just have to keep waiting

[chrome crystal]

After the Scottish map
We need AFRICA IMPALA AND LEOPARD

[tranquil phoenix]

DAY 693 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0 AND DAY 34 SINCE REACHING 2000 UPVOTES

[chrome crystal]

And Nile Lechwe is an endangered species

[patent agate]

Okay.

I got new headphones that have way more adjustments to them and I was playing WotH with them. I was able to adjust the headphones somehow that ducks were super quiet.

Tried it on Hirschfelden and the Geese were quieter, thought i had finally found my solution.

NOPE, VURHONGA DUCKS HAVE LOUDSPEAKERS

[ivory summit]

the vurhonga ducks are laughably loud, so are the others but I feel like the Vurhonga ones are just worse

[chrome crystal]

I have my headphones from last year and the ducks in vurhonga are louder than any other map

[patent agate]

Its not just that they're loud either, its constant too

[mighty void]

They are also just incredibly overpopulated

[patent agate]

70% decrease in duckery would not hurt my feelings

[mighty void]

On vurhonga specifically, on other maps it's all ok

[patent agate]

Pretty much i guess

[untold maple]

A westly richards krag jorganson

Nothing particularly safari related, but every time I see a westly Richard’s, I gotta show it

[patent agate]

I just a posted a pic in off topic of a 12ga slug gun, can you give a thought on it?

[untold maple]

(Sorry for the late reply, I’ve been quite busy today)

Looks sturdy(I don’t particularly care for the stock, it’s a bit gurthy. But that’s basically it for me).

[patent agate]

The stock is getting ditched, it'll be hardwood soon, but the barrel is like an inch and a half thick

[untold maple]

That’s why I said it looks so sturdy

It’s a chunky gun

[patent agate]

Its freaking heavy, poorly balanced too

[tranquil phoenix]

DAY 694 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0 AND DAY 35 SINCE REACHING 2000 UPVOTES

[mighty void]

We are so stagnant 😤

[patent agate]

I wouldn't say that.

I was watching a Mel stream earlier and people were talking about Africa 2.0 for more than half the stream, several ideas for GOs were tossed around and this thread was mentioned by name at least 30 times if I kept track of it right.

GO suggestions went from Lions as the obvious one, to Gemsbok, wildebeest and Kudu then someone mentioned Sable too

[untold maple]

I should have been there to tell people about The G1 elephant

[patent agate]

Yeah about that, I want a GO leopard.

Just to make the grinders suffer

Do like 12 on a map, all singles

Just really bring out the screams

[untold maple]

Like tigers but if you’re on multiplayer they don’t attack one person, they go person to person.

A leopard jumps on top of you then jumps from you onto your buddy and then back on to you. How cool would that mechanic be

[patent agate]

I legitimately cannot wait for leopards and plains game. What im dying for is tree mechanics, catch a big tom sitting on a limb and trying to angle the perfect shot without spooking him.

And that could be applied to cougars too, snow leopards as well

[untold maple]

Definitely for cougars and jaguars(when they get added) but I didn’t think snow leopards hunt in trees. I thought they lived to high up in the mountains for that

[patent agate]

Okay maybe not trees exactly for snow leopards but they do climb rocks and cliffs and lay down the same way as African leopards do.

Besides, it'd be awesome to see a leopard up on a kopje too

[untold maple]

Hunting a leopard on a kopje sounds so cool(both in game and irl)

[patent agate]

I actually planned to hunt a leopard with a longbow until my back injury, now im hoping to put a .30-30 to work on it

[untold maple]

Question, on blind&bait or with hounds?

[patent agate]

I wanted to do blind and bait, be as selective as I could

But i really could see running hounds and an open sight lever action being a really exciting hunt

[untold maple]

Both sound so fun

In a try and avoid getting mauled by the living chainsaw with spots kind of way

[patent agate]

I've hunted hogs with a knife, very similar vibes

[mighty rampart]

I’m very happy that the pressure we’ve applied has now given the Africa 2 campaign a self-sustaining momentum

[mighty void]

What country? Free range?

[tranquil phoenix]

DAY 695 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0 AND DAY 36 SINCE REACHING 2000 UPVOTES

[patent agate]

Id rather have free range animals personally and I'm not too sure on the country, id have to find a guide willing to let me use a .30-30 for at least my first shot

[patent agate]

I also want to say that some of my irl friends have talked about this thread too, particularly that they learned from this thread.

Mind you, they still cant agree on a rifle to go with it, but they do like the thread

[final current]

I know Mozambique does offer both baited leopard hunts and leopard hunting with hounds

[patent agate]

Bigger issue would be finding a guide who'd allow me to use the. 30-30

[final current]

From what I have seen on an African Hunting forum regarding the 30-30

A lot of people underestimate it despite the fact it can bring down moose

[patent agate]

Yep, that's the issue with it in game too, they look at numbers and decide its too weak

[warped grail]

I think calibers for different game species can be placed in red, yellow, and green

Red: Absolutely not

Yellow: You can if you absolutely know what you're doing/don't mind some extra damage but it's not optimal

Green: Optimal af

[untold maple]

It’s going to happen, we’ll see Africa 2.0 soon

[chrome crystal]

The devs at Avalanche and EW heard our request for more Africa based maps and i think it will happen much sooner but when is the question

[desert raptor]

that would work well

[chrome crystal]

If africa is the next map which i hope the question is when is the next announcement for the next reserve?

[dawn dew]

I would expect an announcement no sooner than June maybe late May, but you never know.

If anyone’s heard as to what reserve is next, if anyone does know they’re probably not allowed to disclose yet, I would imagine.

[ivory summit]

I like this idea a lot

[hybrid sundial]

That would allow me to shoot roe deer with the 22. H or foxes with the solokin so yes this would be great

[tranquil phoenix]

DAY 696 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0 AND DAY 37 SINCE REACHING 2000 UPVOTES

[patent agate]

Putting the. 470 to the test here

[dawn dew]

Found an open hunting structure! 😯

Comes with drinks, Lol

[untold maple]

Mmmm legally distinctly different from Fanta Fanta….Mmmmmm tastes like made in china

[patent agate]

They don't import that crap, they mix the leftovers from handful of different brands and put them into one can with vague labeling

[mighty void]

With having played the new map for a few hours I can confidently say that around ≈70% are completely devoid of trees and open. I am impressed with EW and I believe that this working out as well as it does can open the path to having wide open spaces for plains game on an africa map and especially with basically the exact same amount of elevation changes easily an Arctic or central Asian reserve. I am not entirely sure how well it would work in completely open savannah tho that is more flat as well.

[chrome crystal]

My honest opinion of the new map is.
It's kind of good but the red deer didn't really need an update
and i feel that they missed an opportunity by not choosing Africa

[final current]

I suspect that they chose areas with a large number of repeat species like Scotland and Alberta (🇨🇦 ) as they are putting together a bunch of new animal models and stuff for a year of Africa, I am only guessing but I hope I am guessing correctly

[untold maple]

The last three maps have been missed opportunities to have Africa 2.0

[chrome crystal]

Alberta is better than Scotland let's be honest
But when they did Sundarpatan (which was the last good map in my opinion)they remastered Water Buffalo, Blackbuck and added a ton of species like Muntjac and Tigers. Alberta was just a remaster but they added species like Beaver, Wood Bison and Snow Goose. Swalzien and Scotland were just boring maps and i feel like Europe in general is just boring. North America is much better than Europe because of the different biomes but Africa and Asia are the ones we need badly

[chrome crystal]

And Africa 2.0 maps would be an instant success even Asian maps too (Sundarpatan is the proof)

[final current]

South American Maps would also be quite successful and well received if a new one released, but Africa First

[chrome crystal]

How many months there was? between the release of Alberta and the release of Scotland

[patent agate]

I sincerely hope this means 2026 is the year of the leopard for sure.

We've covered all the biomes in Europe and America more than (barring a winter themed Norwegian map which is probably now something I cursed us with) that we have nowhere to but back to Africa.

At the moment Africa is by far the largest open space on the reserve map so they cant ignore it for much longer now.

At the absolute minimum they have to do a plains game map. Something that plays well with the new skeletons added with Sundarpatan and covering an area we haven't seen. Scotland manages to do open spaces fairly well so hopefully that'll mean a true Savanna map, or at least low scrub forest

[chrome crystal]

South Africa has plenty of biomes
Botswana has the Okavango Swamp
Rhodesia has rolling kopjes and forest-grasslands
Zambia is full of swamps
Namibia has the desert

[untold maple]

If they do a plains game focused map, I’m really hoping it’s Cameroon and they cover both jungle and savanna with it

Can you imagine starting up north of the map in the savanna looking for lord derby eland & western roan and then slowly head down south into the Congo looking for bongo & sitatunga

Baboons, Red river hogs, giant forest hogs, waterbuck, kob, hartebeest, reedbuck, bushbuck and plenty of different tiny’s roaming all around

Savanna buffalo, a newly remodeled lion, dwarf buffalo, and forest elephants

Man, what a map that would be!

Ah man…I just found a bongo hunt for 36,600😱(still crazy expensive, but most bongo hunts start at 40k)
If I had that kind of money, oh man…I would probably do it

[chrome crystal]

West Africa with the Kob and the West African Lion

The Lion needs a remodel

[patent agate]

I highly suggest you type Africa into the search bar, there's literally dozens of threads of map ideas and people begging for another reserve to explore.

EW has got to take notice and with more people than ever calling for Africa they have to know its going to be insanely popular

[chrome crystal]

I think they do realize that African ideas are getting more popular and trendy since

[patent agate]

I still think the best approach would be an African themed weapon and skin pack, then a plains game reserve leopards, hyenas, and a handful of plains game that somewhat play off Sundarpatan's new skeletons, a new lodge with very large displays

Then a map with at least 3 of the big five aside from regular animals

[chrome crystal]

At least 6 maps

1 is like the Serengeti
2 is like real South Africa
3 Is the Congo Jungle
4 Okavango Swamp
5 West Africa
6 Kalahari

[patent agate]

Also wouldn't mind a full teardown and rework of Vurhonga tbh

[untold maple]

A rework for Vurhonga and parque Fernando would be insanely cool

Parque definitely needs some love right now. Only map native species is the duck…just a duck😞. Most of the animals on it doesn’t even make any sense for parque.

[patent agate]

Parque really isn't my favorite map but they might change that with a good rework

[untold maple]

Even If they just added capybara and Pere David deer, it would become a lot more popular for players

[patent agate]

It might be better without the noise bug, I just haven't tried it in a year or so

#1448169387302326414

Might be ever so slightly Africa inspired

[mighty void]

I have the same thought, tho honestly I did not like askiy at all much and I do really enjoy the hunting on this map which I nice with having the third eu/America map in a row

[outer zinc]

im neutral about askiy its very dense and hilly for my liking and though torr has some dense areas it balances out nicely with wide open plains and i love that

[mighty void]

Unpopular opinion but Ethiopia is REAL high for me on that list

[final current]

I only give Askiy a bit of a pass because I live in the Canadian province it is set in. Should a Canadian Arctic map come around Askiy might get left in the dust

[mighty void]

The only reason I enter that map is waterfowl and occasionally trying for a dusky grouse trophy. A map isn't only defined by roster and landscape, if the gameplay sucks a cool animal can't help.

[final current]

I might have to disagree with the point about most of the animals on Parque not making sense and only because Argentina is sort of known for big game hunting precisely because of the introduced species with the only animals not making making sense are Peccary (because Parque is set in the Patagonia region of Argentina and Peccary don't live that far south) and Mule Deer (They were not introduced in that area and its very likely they no longer live in Argentina).

[untold maple]

And the type of water buffalo

I will give it to you though, you are right. red stag, fallow deer, blackbuck, and axis deer are pretty popular hunts in Argentina(and I thought panthers were more of a Chilean thing, but I guess they can be there)
But…all those animals can be found on different and better maps, so parque is in real need of some new species

[final current]

And this is just a selection of species that would work (in order): Pere David's Deer (Would make for a good Mule Deer replacement, only really hunted in Texas and Argentina), Guanaco (Can be hunted in the southernmost parts of Argentina), Culpeo Fox (A large fox), Southern Viscacha (Would work like European Rabbits), Elegant Crested Tinamou and Eared Dove (Upland Birds), Upland Goose (Not currently hunted in Argentina irl but would work, males are white), Greater Rhea (Larger bird) and Chiloe Wigeon (Another duck species)

[olive axle]

Ashy-headed goose would be the other goose option

[mighty rampart]

Africa will still come

[mighty rampart]

We’ve managed to make them super aware of the Africa appetite. We get mentioned by name on every stream multiple times. There’s even a whole q&a response to “is Africa 2.0 coming?”

[mighty void]

I do like the red deer Update over the old update personally I like to hunt them much more but what actually did need an update was there true racks, they look like giant farm deer, I'd much rather have what is now a lvl 7 (some of them) as a diamond and subspeciation

[mighty void]

Make more Noice!

[outer zinc]

/j means joking :)

[mighty void]

I am well aware, they have talked about Africa 2.0 many times

[tranquil phoenix]

DAY 697 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0 AND DAY 38 SINCE REACHING 2000 UPVOTES

[untold maple]

They keep trying to push how it won’t be Africa 2.0. But because they’ve taken so long to touch anything African related, everyone just ends up calling it Africa 2.0
Africa 2.0 doesn’t mean Vurhonga 2.0 it means a second African map

[mighty void]

Yes, I'd say it's extremely likely it's either latin America or Asia, unless they pull Australia 2.0 but if say 70% chance that It is something central Asian or mongolia

[chrome crystal]

Lets hope Avalanche and EW start doing African things in 2026

[chrome crystal]

I used to live in Alberta but i think that we should prioritize African maps instead

[final current]

In this I agree, a year of Africa is a must

[chrome crystal]

All of the Vurhonga animals are in a urgent need of remodeling

Real Life lion vs Vurhonga Lion

[mighty void]

It's actually so laughable

[mighty rampart]

I think given how muddled the lion model is we will see it in the next Africa map alongside a remodel, potentially even a rework using the tiger stalking behaviours.

[chrome crystal]

Even the Springbok needs a remodel

Sprinbok in real life is a bit larger and a bit more muscular

[patent agate]

Wouldn't they be more vocal though?

Id like to see a mechanic where maybe 1 out of seven lions will charge directly at the sound of the gunshots too

[chrome crystal]

Lions in real life are social animals often living in groups

[mighty rampart]

They are very vocal at night, if that could be added in it would be very realistic

[mighty rampart]

For those of you with a serious interest of African game hunting, this is a must have.

[patent agate]

Think I just ordered a newer print of this lol

[mighty rampart]

Ashamed i pinched mine from my camp, it had been sitting there for a year untouched.

It’s quite battered and sun damaged.

[patent agate]

I mean, if it sat around for a year with no interest and getting damaged then I doubt anyone would actually mind.

[mighty rampart]

No one’s asked where it is yet, so I agree!

[patent agate]

Honestly it was probably there so long either everyone with a vague interest already finished reading it or they just took it as part of the scenery

[untold maple]

Which ruger No 1 would be better

Classic style or full stock?

[warped grail]

Classic

[patent agate]

#1448169387302326414

Added your favorite lol

[ivory summit]

What I reckon EW could and should do is essentially take the mechanic that wolves have where they howl but it's not an investigable audio and transfer that over to Lion, jackal, hyena, leopard and whatever other animals it could be applicable to. It would just need a fine balance so that it's not overwhelming but also so that it's frequent enough

[tranquil phoenix]

DAY 698 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0 AND DAY 39 SINCE REACHING 2000 UPVOTES

[patent agate]

Who ghost pinged me?! Keep your black magic to yourselves

[dire prism]

I think its because scam/spam protections from the bot delete anything that pings more than 3 users so if someone tried to multiping it prolly got yeeted

[patent agate]

This is the 9th time in 2 days for me

[dire prism]

oof

[patent agate]

Very!

[tranquil phoenix]

Well I don't know what has been happening to you in the past but that might have actually ended up being me cause I replied to a message of yours but then I thought maybe it wasn't too good to keep around so I apologize for that.

[patent agate]

Well I know the other 8 weren't you so I don't mind just one lol

[tranquil phoenix]

It was me saying that I had read this message as "Heavy Hitlers weapon pack" 💀

[patent agate]

Well that's not good. . .

[tranquil phoenix]

Most certainly not but I've been doing alot of things on history for my schoolwork and free time about WWII and whatnot so I accidentally read that instead.

[patent agate]

Tends to happen

But anyway I figured it'd be nice to finally have another double rifle in game, one with a wider range of use at least

[hybrid sundial]

I got like ghost pinged 5 times this week or so 😭

[patent agate]

Halloween was two months ago, its time to stop ghost pings

[tranquil phoenix]

DAY 699 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0 AND DAY 40 SINCE REACHING 2000 UPVOTES

[chrome crystal]

Lets hope 2026 is the year of AFRICA!

[warped grail]

20 for the start
African Bush Elephant
Hippopotamus
White Rhinoceros
Cape Buffalo (Remaster)
Southern Giraffe
Lion (Remaster)
Nile Crocodile
Common Eland
Sable Antelope
Nyala
African Leopard
Chapman's Zebra
Blue Wildebeest (Remaster)
Spotted Hyena
Greater Kudu
Impala
Warthog (Remaster)
Chacma Baboon
Helmeted Guineafowl
Common Duiker

Add Later if you wanna
Waterbuck
Bushbuck
Brown Hyena
Black Rhinoceros
Roan
Tsessebe
Bushpig
Reedbuck
Crested Francolin
Egyptian Goose
Swainson’s Spurfowl
Steenbok
Cape Porcupine
Yellow-billed duck
Vervet Monkey
Klipspringer
Black-backed jackal
African comb duck
Dassie (Rock Hyrax)

[chrome crystal]

Southern Lechwe

Springbok Remastered

[warped grail]

I'd save springbok for a Kalahari map

This map is more bushveld

[warped grail]

So...
Kalahari map •
Bushveld map (this one)
A SA small game map •
Cameroon rainforest/savannah map
East African map in Ethiopia or Tanzania

• one of these will permanently replace Vurhonga Savannah in an ideal world

[final current]

I think I made a West African Reserve that features a lot of small game, birds and Warthog Great Ones, I will link it in when I find it

[warped grail]

I feel like Cameroon covers West Africa

[final current]

Cameroon is considered part of Central Africa more so and a reserve set there would focus more on big game species, also found my West African Reserve: https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1363751758123241503 (I forgot I chose to have it set in Senegal since a lot of bird hunting happens there and some people have even hunted some big game apparently)

[warped grail]

That's actually really nice

Also, do you think Vurhonga should be replaced entirely?

Because like, Vurhonga is such wasted potential for the first African map with no real geographic cohesion

[final current]

I think Vurhonga has a place in the game considering it is the first African Reserve, it just needs a lot of work to make it more geographically and ecologically cohesive and to take into consideration that its supposedly set in Botswana I would settle for making the changes needed to be based on the Kalahari and Bushveld areas of Southern Botswana

[warped grail]

I'd change it to be Kalahari based and have it set in Namibia

[final current]

My ideal Namibian Reserve would either be a Kalahari Plains Game Reserve that also features Leopard, Hyena (Spotted preferred but Brown would be ok), Cheetah and maybe even a few Rhinos alongside some small game and birds or a Dangerous 7 Reserve (Africa 2.0) that includes a region based on the Caprivi

[warped grail]

I think Kalahari would be best as the open landscape will contrast with the bushveld

[tranquil phoenix]

DAY 700 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0 AND DAY 41 SINCE REACHING 2000 UPVOTES 🥳 🥳 🥳

[mighty void]

Ethiopia mountains and lowlands 🙏🙏🙏

[mighty rampart]

I’m not too fussed if we don’t get elephants on the next Africa map. But they have to come eventually.

Lot of appetite for Kudu, Impala, Hippo, Leopard etc.

I think there’s a good lineup there to have along with potentially rhino as well.

Spreads out the big five over 3 diffrent maps

[chrome crystal]

By the way Phacochère is the french word for warthog

[final current]

I know

[patent agate]

intense grumbling

[chrome crystal]

https://www.flickr.com/photos/43716260@N00/53936441877/in/photolist-p1PXTW-2p6BTyE-2p6DNsr-2qWgEvt-2qbbn44-2qw2mgW-2rE26Uv

This gave me an idea about something

[mighty void]

? Panorama/Museum style lodge?

[chrome crystal]

Yes

[mighty void]

That's a nice idea, has been suggested a ton. Would be amazing.

[untold maple]

Keep up the good work! Make them KNOW we want Africa 2.0!

Yes they already know, but they need to be reminded all the time

[patent agate]

It was a very simple question, no need for holy water and a cross shaped hammer

[untold maple]

They are just scared whenever someone mentions anything African

[patent agate]

OoOoOo spooky leopards mentioned

Well, yeah tbey are actually terrifying but you get what I ment

[chrome crystal]

The devs

[outer zinc]

they're not. i was having a convo with vivi and she said they don't want to do africa until they can do it right because of the very high demand for it; if they do something wrong it'll get hated on a lot and they don't want that, they want it to meet expectations

[patent agate]

. . . so they're scared of doing Africa 2.0 wrong.

[outer zinc]

Because of people being impatient and some people being aggressive, yes

[untold maple]

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again

If they didn’t take so long to touch Africa again there wouldn’t be this giant expectation for it.

[outer zinc]

they just want it to be good :) theyre well aware of the demand but dont want to have a map that is not to the quality the playerbase has been hoping for

I think part of the reason they havent done anything africa in so long is because of it, yes there is a giant expectation but there has been a giant expectation for years - i remember when i first started playing in 2021 there was big demand for it and now it's even bigger

[patent agate]

Well I guess waiting six years to do anything Africa related wasn't the best plan, its just stacking up expectations.

If they had done a couple maps for plains animals in between thers wouldn't be so much demand. The expectations would be there but that's just how things work now.

Honestly if they'd fixed vurhonga up a bit at time it would have helped as well, by at least showing tbey do want to do as well as possible

[outer zinc]

yeah, i agree, but it seems theyre doing remodels with new maps that contain those animals
i do want remodels outside of this method though, like you said, not all the remodels have to be on a new map, they can bring life back into old ones

[untold maple]

Exactly, if they could have made a plains game map there wouldn’t be a massive expectation for an African map with all of the big five and 20 or so species of plains game on it

instead they decided it was going to be the last map, but when they changed their minds they changed it to we’ll do it when we can do it just right(which is an impossible standard they put on themselves)

[patent agate]

If they had delivered Greater Kudu after talking about backfill that would have been huge as well

[patent agate]

"When we can do it right " just sounds like a long way of saying No, it won't happen

[untold maple]

Yep, an impossible standard they put on themselves. That’s exactly what it is

I’m gonna make a post about that now

[patent agate]

I'll watch for it

[outer zinc]

this is exactly why they don't want to do it, you're being petty at this point. give them time.

[patent agate]

They've had 5 years, red deer have been redone twice and they're pouring tons of time and resources in great ones, if they would have taken even just a little time and effort to redo at least one or two animals on vurhonga then maybe.

But right now it looks like the genuinely do not care

[outer zinc]

yes, but being aggressive over every single thing they say won't change that there's no point in it

[chrome crystal]

They want more boring European DLCS

[patent agate]

Its not even aggression, its disappointment.

Five years. We've been waiting and asking for five years. They've remodeled a dozen different animals and backfilled several. They've released 6 maps with mallards.

They haven't even remodeled a single animal from Vurhonga.

[chrome crystal]

What they don't get is that Africa as a whole is special
and there's something unique about it

[chrome crystal]

Every European map sucked except revontuli.
Africa is so much better than Europe

@patent agate It worries me because i hope that 2026 won't be European DLCs

[patent agate]

Thing is, Africa alone has well over a hundred separate species that could be hunted in dozens of places. The Devs are just reusing the same animals in different locations, that for the most part don't feel so different

And that isn't counting the larger animals like hippos, rhinos and elephants

[chrome crystal]

One big example is the Lion, Waterbuck and the Kob
they have several varieties
Like the Defassa Waterbuck, The White Eared Kob and the West African Lion

[chrome crystal]

That's part of the European problem and at some extent North America

[final current]

That would be a good reason to make the next couple North American Reserves set in Canada (Northwest Territories and British Columbia) and Southern Mexico (Disclaimer: I would hope they come out after we get at least 2 African Maps and a South American map)

[chrome crystal]

Forget Canada, Africa is more essential and if can pressure them to release africa would be awesome

[final current]

Its why I added my disclaimer, there is no doubt we need Africa 100%

[outer zinc]

ah yes. pressure them

great idea for a playerbase to force a dev team to do something

[chrome crystal]

Yes We want African Maps

[outer zinc]

I was being sarcastic? you'll get them if you be patient
"we've been patient"
devs only recently caught wind of this thread. fry about it.

[chrome crystal]

I was saying that even tho our request of new african maps might not realize itself now at least they know that we want more africa based maps

[outer zinc]

oh ok

[patent agate]

Funny, the old threads were deleted but even before this one there were more than a dozen threads for Africa

[chrome crystal]

Well that's weird

[hybrid sundial]

What is this albino 😭

Like i never seen any animal that looks quiete like it

Like what is this

[hybrid sundial]

Oh reindeer on a weird angle

[dawn dew]

He’s just a little nervous about the Apex predator in the corner. 🤠

[hybrid sundial]

Can you really put them on those or is this from the Bug that was present some time ago ?

[dawn dew]

Oh, this lodge pre-dates the fix of the place anywhere glitch or whatever it’s called.

If I move this, I won’t be able to return it I think.

[hybrid sundial]

Oh thats sad. I'd rather have the animals be a bit to big for the mount then having Tons of wasted space on the Plaque (looking at you whitetail and fallow)

[dawn dew]

Could not have said it better myself, 100%

[hybrid sundial]

Its still hilarius that tahr fits the smallest Plaque while many species who would be still a bit to small for the second smallest Plaque only fit on the large and extra large Plaque

[dawn dew]

🐐 Tahr any kind of goat should be able to mount on anything including the branch. 😆

for the rock mount, one should be able to put like four of those bad boys on there.

[hybrid sundial]

Goat climbers 🫡

The branch one is also a bit of letdown. Thought i could put Turkey a smaller base Plaque then the large one but suprise, that doesent works. I have to put the branch mount on the large Plaque in order to place a Turkey on it. Cant even use it on the smallest Plaque, so basicly your Sterling yourself mounts when using it in the spring creek. It would only make sense for goose cause that the smallest Plaque you can put them on

Foxes and pheasant i can put on the smallest plaques of which the spring creek has to many in relation to big mounts...

[dawn dew]

I wonder if the easiest way to go forward with any new lodges, would be to create everything the largest wall plaque available and include the ability to size down the plaque to accommodate any desired species for display.. 🤔

If you wanted to get fancy: As you size down other locations may become available, so you’re not stuck with a bunch of dead space.

[warped grail]

Yeah for Christ sakes @EW, if this is your next map, please take time to cook

We'd rather have this map come later than come out

[final current]

A Plains Game map (like #1449870048717050066 for example) could give them time to get Africa 2.0 right, especially if the necessary trophy lodge reworks are in-between, but that is a big maybe

[tranquil phoenix]

DAY 701 AND 702 OF WAITING FOR AFRICA 2.0 AND DAY 42 AND 43 SINCE REACHING 2000 UPVOTES

[patent agate]

I kinda wonder if the devs are taking this post too seriously, as they believe we actually expect all these animals in a single map. It seems weird and hard to believe tbh, but I wonder if that's what is holding them back

[untold maple]

I wonder if they take the feedback in general seriously.
Outside of the ones they make, they don’t really show up to often in the feedback