AFRICA BIG FIVE (Africa 2.0 + Class 10 Weapons) 🇿🇼🇿🇦

[mighty rampart]

They stuck around for around 5-6 hours.

They got an impala so we’re chowing and guarding the food most of the night

[patent agate]

Nice

[patent agate]

Scrub like that looks like murder to stalk in but it also looks weirdly similar to places I've hunted in the US.

Couldn't get away with solo hunts here tho lol

[noble knot]

Hippos terrify me

But they are so cool it’s

[untold maple]

I see a croc…there’s undoubtedly more that I can’t see

[untold maple]

Art by John Seerey Lester

[mighty rampart]

This one was me yesterday morning

[untold maple]

I was thinking that exact thing🤣

[untold maple]

What’s the story behind this?

[mighty rampart]

Old lion kill, I thought it would look nice in my wall

[untold maple]

It would look very cool on a wall.
Another cool idea would be putting the horns on a stand(like elephant tusks but kudu horns). Or you can mount them on a wall as a lamp. Just throwing out ideas

[patent agate]

Dude, no, you know what that single one looks like. You have too.

Why not do a cap mount with it if the skull is in bad shape

[stone minnow]

i got chased by one on foot when i was 14 😭

[noble knot]

Wow That is a traumatized experience for sure

[midnight carbon]

I cannot think of a worse idea than chasing a lion or rhino horseback

[untold maple]

I can think of a few things

[midnight carbon]

Ok yeah that's worse lol

[patent agate]

Got questions about the "cowboy" . . . Also, is that Roosevelt?

[untold maple]

Cowboys going on safari happened a lot, and yes that’s TR. John Seerey Lester has done quite a few TR paintings

[patent agate]

Oh not the "why was he there?"

More like "why are you wearing a shirt the same color as MEAT in lion territory?!"

Lotta poor choices in these paintings if you ask me. . .

[untold maple]

That’s what makes this such fun paintings

[patent agate]

Y'all, I gotta be offline for a few days so when I come back I'd be real happy to see 1250, I know we can do that much,

We just gotta keep eyes on this

[mighty rampart]

100%

[dusky oak]

If nothing else, your job will make some cool stories someday for the kids/grandkids. Refreshingly different

[mighty rampart]

I hope so!

[frail schooner]

I'm super late to this, but I'm pretty sure model size doesn't contribute to lag. It's the tri/poly count and texture resolution that has performance impacts, and afaik those remain unchanged regardless of the mesh size
There could be more to it that I'm missing, but afaik it's not based on size

[mighty rampart]

Looking for hippo variations

[torn belfry]

Like the leucistic hippopotamus

The same thing happens with elephants (however I didn't find any adults).

[mighty rampart]

Looks Awsome

[torn belfry]

I was looking for hippos, I'm into zebras. So if you put the zebras, I present to you the golden zebra, the albino (it's all red), with dots and another without really having any stripes.

[manic vigil]

last one looks like a Quagga

[torn belfry]

yes that's it, In South Africa, scientists have revived the creature.

They used plains zebras less striped than the others, it can be a perfect for a very rare skin color.

[frail schooner]

I don't remember if it was mentioned in this forum already (and there's a lot of messages to scroll through), but I think including the Nile Crocodile would be awesome
The team has improved dramatically at crocodilian models (look at the difference between their American Alligator and Saltwater Crocodile), and I feel like they could nail a nile croc
though it depends on where in Africa this takes place ofc (again can't remember and it's too far to scroll)

[torn belfry]

from my memories yes don't worry there is the Nile crocodile, and it seems to me I don't know if he or someone else wanted to put it also on Vurhonga Savanna if I remember correctly

[frail schooner]

It would be awesome for Vurhonga as well, since there's that entire river section up to the north

[dire prism]

especially since the river is posted with signs that say "Caution: Crocodiles"

we got the warning but never recieved our African river lizards 😭

[mighty rampart]

These look Awsome

[torn belfry]

If you want I can do different animals because I love putting photos of magnificent animals. But for now I'm going to rest because it's late and I don't remember the many animals on this map.

[main knot]

Saw this and had to show ya'll

[glad epoch]

I want all of them!

[mighty rampart]

They look amazing

[noble knot]

Wow that’s quite a lot of dung

[strange viper]

If they work like normal matches then why not

[mighty rampart]

Not matches, firelighters

[strange viper]

My bad, mistook the word 😅

[mighty rampart]

🫣🫡

[mighty rampart]

We are getting close to that 250 mark!

[untold maple]

Slowly but surely

[dreamy viper]

I hears somewhere that the way to know if the dung is an elephant's or rhino's is to see the pattern in which it is placed. Like elephants' are usually scattered but rhinos usually choose a "toilet"-like spot and keep returning to the same spot.

[mighty rampart]

There’s a slight size difference, rhino dung is also really dark

[rain solar]

Almost 1200. Woah. I've only been gone a couple of months. 2k by the new year, surely.
Anyway, hi everyone. 👋 🐘

[untold maple]

Howdy Zen! It’s been awhile

[rain solar]

Indeed! I'll see you on stream later? I'm hoping for some fun reveals or clues. LOL

[untold maple]

Hopefully

[rain solar]

https://discordapp.com/channels/393040947006406657/491944241401036800/1285586021093871668 👀

[mighty rampart]

Welcome back

[untold maple]

I must say, It would be so cool to hunt a leopard with the new scope.

[faint lantern]

Holy

[main knot]

1200!!! Let's go!

[finite iris]

Do you think we have a good chance at EW accepting our idea?

[untold maple]

They definitely should. Not investing into Africa 2.0 is like admitting that they’re allergic to money.

[dire prism]

1201 upvotes as of 5:31 PM USMDT

[dire flume]

Here’s how I think they will do Africa 2

I think they will give us everything we want so it is hard for everyone not to buy it so then that gives them the money to produce the next game in the hunter series while in the mean time they tide us over with lower quality releases like weapon and gear packs

So I think we have a while to wait sadly but I think that have moved to quality over quantity so maybe the next few releases will be good I think it will go something like

Amazon

Canada

Texas or Florida game ranch

Africa 2

Lower quality European map

Next the hunter release

These are 1 a year btw bc I think they have switched to that

[mighty rampart]

Extremely, Africa 2 will come. It just depends on what species are included

[dreamy viper]

I think the implementation of snow leopards and tigers opened a lot of doors for more controversial species like elephants or leopards

[tranquil phoenix]

Hey all just doing a little check in seeing how you all are doing very nice to see that the post has reached 1202 upvotes keep up the good job!

[mighty rampart]

None of these are controversial outside in the real world, it’s a small minority of guys who don’t know the rules around hunting in Africa and then throw bs into the chats here thinking that it’s gospel

[boreal hornet]

I think they could do at least 2 more reserves in Africa so ... Africa 3.0 is where I hope we are headed .... After 2.0 of course 😉

[mighty rampart]

This is the type of thinking I’m backing around here😎

[boreal hornet]

Also if the devs need a technical consultant @mighty rampart would get my vote ....

[noble knot]

It would be annoying if they do not add the stuff the community wants in here I feel there will be a uproar I mean there is a lot of work such as map planning done here it needs to be done

Like a community Map would go wild we need it

[amber kindle]

Nocturnal Vision should only affect the interior sight, not the scope or the exterior.

Do you know anything about the news that many elephants are going to be culled in Zimbabwe due to the severe drought? I say this because Zimbabwean authorities have set out plans to cull 200 elephants to feed communities facing acute hunger amid the worst drought in four decades. Source: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/sep/17/zimbabwe-to-cull-200-elephants-to-feed-people-facing-hunger-due-to-drought

[boreal hornet]

No doubt ... Big Five Africa map will be done ... Or maybe done using 2 African reserves 2.0 and 3.0 .... But this thread is just an outline and the devs will have to fill in the details .....

[noble knot]

Agreed

[mighty rampart]

The guardian is a rag of a newspaper, full of kak individuals.

That’s aside yes these culls happen a lot. Mainly due to elephant overpopulation than famine. They are extremely destructive creates and destroy hundreds of trees. You can tell if a reserve has elephants just by looking at the bush there.

[plucky quarry]

Exactly.
People who want all animals in the game: "take my money"
People who find controversy and complain: 10 internet random guys who won't buy 🤣 🤣
Pretty easy to understand who a studio would prioritize

[noble knot]

That is a interesting pfp you got there to say the least 💀

[mighty rampart]

Exactly, sadly discord attracts chronically online individuals

They can kan kwaad en kwaad wees in hul ma se kelders

[patent agate]

How is this an issue? Deals with overpopulation of an absolute resource destroyer, feeds people, cuts back on negative human interactions. This is a good plan.

Also, found a meerkat plushie, ended up costing me almost 40$.

[noble knot]

Yes

No

Its the “German” military ranks correct?

[tranquil phoenix]

That looks like a Giant Pandas head on a Meerkats body

[amber kindle]

I just wanted to comment on the news, as it relates to the country of Zimbabwe and this post. I didn’t say it’s a problem. I only shared the news. I agree with your opinion.

[patent agate]

Africa 2.0 better have impalas.

[mighty rampart]

Let’s keep all
Of this out of my thread please

[amber kindle]

They are practically farm animals. There is a market for these rare animals in Africa.

[noble knot]

Yeah I recognized the skull and cross bones but this is not the most appropriate conversation for this

[tranquil phoenix]

I certainly agree Africa simply isn't Africa without some Impala

[tranquil phoenix]

Yeah sorry about that Wellington I'll be deleting them

How have you been?
Seen the new Scope pack that's coming?

[patent agate]

And? Impala are still a wild species and even if the pics are of farm raised animals it does not mean they wouldn't occur in wild populations.

@mighty rampart can we get your opinion on this?

[amber kindle]

Yes, but What they do is increase proportionally the number of these rare animals in relation to natural animals, like they are found in reserves. Natural selection would exterminate these rare animals. This threatens the genetic diversity of wild animals; it is a complex and profound issue.

[patent agate]

Again, that makes no difference. These color morphs are no different from any other impala physically and literally every antelope species has similar varieties of coat coloration. They would have as much chance as any springboks or gazelle with the same coat colors

Yes, these were taken at a game farm. But it's not as if it's a totally man made thing. They can occur naturally in wild populations regardless of human interference.

[noble knot]

It could be a very rare variant called “domestic” or something

[amber kindle]

You won't find this photo of four rare impalas together in the wild, unless they are from game reserves.

Aren't hunting farms the same as game reserves?

[patent agate]

Did I say anything about the rarity? Did I say anything about the grouping? No. I posted some pictures of unique looking impala and said I hope they are in the map.

What's the point you are trying to make here? Do you not want impala on Africa 2.0? Do you think these coat colorations could even possibly exist outside a game farm?

[dire prism]

No, hunting farms feed and often hand rear their stock while also having specific breeding pedigrees. Game reserves are basically demarcated tracts of land where wild animals exist and live of their own ability.

[dire prism]

Grouping like this should actually be expected if the genes for color mutations are carried by one or more dominant mating bucks as well as few does in the region (which is necessary for recessive alleles to be represented physiologically in the first place), as some portion of their offspring will exhibit those traits and congregate around one another.

This is especially true for the does, since they often stay with their natal (place of birth) herds, meaning sisters/aunts/nieces end up forming a significant portion of the herd.

[patent agate]

So there can't possibly be a wild animal with this coat color? It all has to be done with selective breeding and constant curation by humans who carefully select the particular features they want the animal to possess?

Impala are not domestic animals

[noble knot]

I didn’t mean that it was just a concept game play wise

[patent agate]

Why? No other animal in the game has a designation like that.

[dense folio]

Can't be in Africa without the Chevy

[noble knot]

I was just saying it could be a rare variant of the impala if it where to be added

[dire prism]

but there's no domestic impala, they're purely wild animals that bolt when they see people or start kicking and goring if cornered.

[dense folio]

Why can't we just say G1 impala with these fur types

[noble knot]

That’s true I used the wrong word my bad I did not mean to cause confusion

[untold maple]

It depends. Most game farms are huge and run by people with good ethics. But then there is the occasional can farm where your hunting on someone’s yard, those I don’t like

[dense folio]

Speaking of, have y'all heard about the exotic animals just showing up on some dudes property here in Texas? Apparently, there's nilgai and I think kudu + a whole bunch of other animals

[patent agate]

Impala would almost certainly never be a GO, it's an extremely common animal competing with greater kudu, nyala, elands, sable and a myriad of other way more sought after animals. Impala are the white bread of plains game

[dense folio]

Well, sometimes white bread just needs a little something to help it stand out above the rest

[patent agate]

On a map with, let's say G Kudu, do you really want the GO to be an impala?

[dense folio]

Well, no, but that's just the point. Impala would get overlooked for these better animals. But with their own G1, impala would get much more attention

[patent agate]

Another way to look at this. Sundarpatan.

On a map with tigers, the GO was a hairy goat. From what I saw, there was not a lot of positive feedback for that choice

[dense folio]

But what DID tigers get, loads of rare fur types. And of course people would want a G1 tiger, tigers are cool. If it wasn't for the G1, tahr probably wouldn't be a very popular animal

[patent agate]

Nyala, Sable, and greater eland iirc

[dense folio]

I guess the real question would be, "which animal would be best for its own G1?" How would a G1 for each animal look, how many varieties of fur or horns could it have for a G1? How different would each look from a diamond?

[untold maple]

Not to advertise but https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1278571704838520904

[patent agate]

My choice would be eland, they don't exactly follow perfectly natural looks anyway

[dense folio]

With such a highly anticipated map, you can't just look at the animal you like the most and say it's the one. You gotta look at which animal you SHOULD give a G1. Which one can you take further than a diamond? Which one should have a more extreme version?

[untold maple]

Which is why I vote for elephant as G1

[patent agate]

Which is why I voted eland.

Largest antelope in the world, very rarely preyed on by even lions, would be the largest GO in game, already a tough and elusive animal. The horns are also unique. I do not see a reason why eland would be a bad choice

[patent agate]

Could see that, also leopard or eve hippo tbh

[untold maple]

Each of The dangerous 7 would work for a G1

[patent agate]

I love the idea of an absolute tank of a GO that is incredibly hard to grind

My bad, wrong server

[dense folio]

What do the odd lions prey on? But seriously, the problem is how cool they already are. With a G1, it takes away the fact they're already a very cool animal. I mean, looking at the already existing G1s, they're fairly mundane animals. So it would be best to give an animal that is far more common in appearance its own G1. The other animals would keep their popularity beçause of how crazy they look, while the G1 animal would gain popularity

[patent agate]

Also thought of that, eland are very similar to a bovine species, which we do not have a current GO for. Aside from that, it would be the largest GO in the game as far as size and weight go. We have deer, and goats, even a bear GO. Still no bovine size species tho

Eland as a GO would be setting a precedent for, eventually, a bison or buffalo type of animal or a rework of an existing species. Aside from all this, eland horns don't have as much variation as some species would. If there's no GO eventually it'll be just as ignored as euro bison.

[dense folio]

Well, we've already gotten G1s for already existing species before, and I'd much prefer a water buffalo G1 before any other bovine

[untold maple]

I’m really liking the idea of G1’s for all of the dangerous 7

I haven’t found anything for leopard or rhino yet

[patent agate]

Hold up.

Let's go the opposite direction for a minute and consider a GO small game animal like a duiker or grysbok. It would easily be the least impressive and most common to get GO but I wold bet it would cause an immense impact. Making small game calibers more desirable and addi g diversity, it could even come alongside a larger GO

[untold maple]

I can see it now. Scarcrow grinding for the Tiny One

[patent agate]

Joke if you must good Sir, but small game shall have it's day!

[untold maple]

I can only read that in the most posh English accent

[patent agate]

As intended my boy🧐

[mighty rampart]

All shape my end, excited for the scope pack!

[mighty rampart]

I’ve never seen impala that are domesticated or farmed in that sense, i my wild one’s. There’s thousands of them.

[mighty rampart]

King leopards for G1s, they posed darker coats.

As for rhinos, just make it a big one with massive horns and it should be sharp

[patent agate]

This was on deviant art of all places, would this be a good lineup of coats as a rare/GO variation?

[strange viper]

Late congrats on 1200 upvotes 👏

[amber kindle]

For me, I would be happy with these impala rarities in COTW as well as impalas existing in the future.

[round sparrow]

5 would be cool if they added it to the game

[untold maple]

I can see those being great ones
I’m really liking 1 and 4

[strange viper]

5 🔥

[dense folio]

6🔥🔥🔥

[patent agate]

Yeah, honestly 5 and 4 are the most interesting to me. It's kinda wild

[round sparrow]

Ya

[patent agate]

Deviant Art has some crazy stuff. These are just old posts

[untold maple]

A G1 leopard should also have a bigger size to it

[patent agate]

A huge old Tom for sure

[untold maple]

That third picture I really like

[patent agate]

Honestly, we could really do with a second predator go. Bears are okay but not really my thing

[strange viper]

We definitely do need another GO with the non-antler badge

I think they got a lot of experience and feedback on Tahr, so let's hope the future will be even brighter than ever before for GOs 🔥

[untold maple]

Should a G1 croc just be stupidly big or should it also have fun colors to it?

Lame the other two pictures didn’t show

[strange viper]

Goddayum

[untold maple]

So definitely stupid big for a G1

[strange viper]

Floor mount size; XXXL

[untold maple]

It’s definitely going to happen when they add elephants and such

What should a G1 hippo look like?

Here are some huge ones I’ve found

I just found something very interesting. Spotted lions

[dreamy viper]

I really hope that if they add hippos that the feed zones wil be at night.I still remember how cool it was to see them eat at night in the kruger.

[untold maple]

Evening to night definitely.

Getting a land hippo would be so cool

[mighty rampart]

This is a big madala

[mighty rampart]

Think the cubs are born spotted,but these fade over time due to the sun.

Might be that lions kept in zoos in the northern hemisphere retain them for longer due to the weather

[untold maple]

Probably, it’s definitely interesting though

[manic vigil]

ngl, both

[old saffron]

I was really hoping for peafowl and by extension a peafowl G1 on sundarpatan 😔 I’m all for small G1s as long as they aren’t extreme. Though I’m unsure about that specific animal personally

Can’t wait for the day we’re using the new night vision scope (something I’ve been waiting for due to the lack of zoom on the current one) on animals in a new Africa map :]

[patent agate]

If that's the case, then lions in heavily forested areas might have a small chance at retaining their spots too. Could be an extremely interesting little quirk

[mighty rampart]

Looking at the pictures again though they definitely have a genetic difference to regular ones. The spots are never that prominent, even when they are cubs

[patent agate]

Interesting, maybe a recessive gene? Could have something to do with a mutation as well I suppose. So that makes me curious, is this something that can happen with lions in general or does it have to do with specific bloodlines in a single area?

Before anyone starts yapping, No I do not think these lions cross bred with leopards

[mighty rampart]

Not entirely sure, I’m no genetics expert by a long stretch. But for sure it’s a old style gene that’s been activated.

You see similar things with some elephants having a bit more hair than others.

Some bloodlines will be more likely to have the trait for sure.

I’m sure 10,000 years ago a lot do these animals would have looked very different. Particularly when we look at existing specimens of ancient lions and cave tigers etc etc

[patent agate]

Does the pelt look like it came from a fairly young male or is that just me? I wanna say it's not quite full grown but I'm really not sure

[mighty rampart]

https://www.lionlandscapes.org/lion-range

@patent agate the female is defiantly younger, the male I’m not so sure, he’s not old but not young.

Both are showing unusual levels of spotting/roses.

You see similar old genetics occasionally with Leopards and cheetahs. It’s called “king leopards/cheetah. Think at one point they had patterns more akin to stripes than spots/roses.

[patent agate]

Interesting read, I'll have to dig more when I have time.

Well those are absolutely gorgeous

It actually might have something to do with the terrain they adapted to hunt in as well, jaguars have a dappled pattern of rosets that blend them into the spotty lighting of the jungle but tigers who spend their time in long grass areas are striped.

Maybe this is extremely old genetics that sometimes bounce back due to mutation or latent genes becoming somewhat active?

Oh yeah, what do you guys think of the scope changes? I'm happy I think but I kinda wish we'd gotten a 3-7 scope for rifles too

[untold maple]

I’ve done some digging on spotted lions so here’s what I’ve read

Basically there’s two leading theories to look at. The first one is that they were normal lions that just kept their spots from infancy into Adulthood. The second one is a bit more interesting but dips its toes into cryptozoology. It could be an unidentified subspecies of lion that lived/lives in the mountains of Kenya(think mountain bongo), the name is Marozi lions

[patent agate]

This is starting to sound like the documentary on white lions I saw a few years ago.

Iirc they were due to inbreeding with the handlers trying to say it was a separate species or something.

Though I do have to admit, if they come from a specific area it sounds like a genetic trait that has been handed down. If the area is also heavily forested (or at least used to be) it would make more sense for a survival aspect since it would be better camouflage

[untold maple]

Well I’ve fallen down a new rabbit hole.

[patent agate]

We tend to do that a lot here. . .

[untold maple]

That is most definitely true

Painfully true

[patent agate]

I know what you mean, just went off on a tangent for a new weapon pack idea while I was reading about big cat mutations

So, leopards are cool af

I think red spotted are maybe my favorite, strawberry leopards

As are cheetahs

[noble knot]

What type of genetic mutation causes red fur?

[patent agate]

Not sure, haven't found much information on it. The info with that particular picture was that they knew for certain it was genetic and not due to aged taxidermy

[noble knot]

It may be erythrism

[patent agate]

Could be, but they didn't have a clear idea why it was so red. Apparently some scientists argued it was a different species as well

[noble knot]

Oh interesting I did some research there Needs to be erythristic animals in this game

[patent agate]

Tends to be a theme, a Pic pops up on here and suddenly you're down a rabbithole for days trying to learn about some new critter or other.

[noble knot]

Fr and I wanted to apologize for starting the confusion about the impala yesterday I worded that message horribly

[patent agate]

Nah, no big deal. Tbh I was already annoyed and shouldn't have let myself get pis*ed off so easy

[buoyant cosmos]

It’s Erythrism. It can affect Coyotes, Raccoons, and there was even a report of a Moose in Alaska with Erythrism.

[noble knot]

Oh okay thanks for clearing it up Mr Schrader 👍

[zinc aurora]

That third picture is the real life pink panther 😂

[patent agate]

"Truth is stranger than fiction"

[mighty rampart]

100%

[patent agate]

I forgot how good guinea fowl tasted, I roasted one the other day and I miss having them.

[noble knot]

One of my buddy’s had a big flock of them and they got so many noise complaints about them they had to shoot em all

[patent agate]

Oh they are loud af but they taste really good tho

[mighty rampart]

It’s the small things that indicate our impact on the community. Never seen that many SA emotes over the last year.

[patent agate]

They're on almost every post too, all the news and update stuff have at least 5 or 6

[wooden peak]

Although I agree on the intention of this thread, at the end of the day, EW will do whatever it wants to do as far as what it releases, regardless of what their fan base wants.... I want to see the hands of all of those that voted for the NEPAL MAP versus the Africa 2.0 ?????,...............uhm, I am waiting!!.. The Africa 2.0 map has been requested since the beginning of time. The same thing happenned with the Australia Map,. It was requested since a longgggg time ago and then recently we received it.... Playing this game since Feb, 2017 with 13,000 hours of game time here ( Is the only game I play ), I dont give suggestions any longer, like I said, at the end of the day, EW does whatever it wants to do.

[final current]

I was one of the people who posted a suggestion thread for a reserve set in Nepal (there was a couple made by different people)

[wooden peak]

Thats fine but you guys are the " minority" of that request

[mighty rampart]

cracks knuckles

Have you come here to be a negative killjoy out of spite or are you really that bored?

EW have acknowledged that this post is doing very well multiple times. jaxi has said multiple times on stream that people really want this one, it come up in conversation on pretty much every broadcast.

You have no idea what the intention of this post was, the intention was to create noise for a second Africa map. As the community manager said in February that we were not making enough.
This suggestion is younger than the Nepal one by some time. I created this post back in February/march. The largest Africa 2 post before this was sitting at around 230

We have made noise and achieved our “intention by being the most popular map suggestion in the space of 9 months.

I don’t know what you personal gripe is, but based on what you have said, compared to what is,
These points are null, and have no real standing.

And no we’re not stupid Mr 13,000 hours, we know that the company does what it wants to, hence why these are suggestions…

Don’t get caught up in your own press I would add that you wasting 541 days, nearly two years of your LIFE on this game, doesn’t make you words reality. It’s something you shouldn’t be remotely proud of.

Touch 🌱

That negative chap aside- happy to once again say that we have a strong community, that has grown on this thread.

[strange viper]

I think Nepal was the right step for the developers and the game as a whole and it was sort of an experiment/half-step. If they want to do something ambitious like Africa 2.0, you know they want to do it correctly and nail it on the first try. On surface, Sundarpatan looks like another map, but when you look into it you see-

1. New animal behaviour (Possible AI improvements on future animals)
2. Endangered species included as huntable
3. Limited amount of some animals on a reserve
4. Concept of a GO with no drink zones
5. Dynamic weather depending on player's position

[mighty rampart]

Exactly, Nepal has opened the gates to make the whole Africa 2 species list now possible

[patent agate]

Nepal feels like testing the ice, looking for reactions as much as creating a new map. Between everything they did that was truthfully new and the stuff they just fell back on it seems like this was a sort of first step.

Like they recognized we were more open to not necessarily 1:1 realism and changed a few things to see how much smoke they'd get. I do think we'll have to wait another year or maybe 2 for Africa 2.0 but I'm almost expecting a bunch of changes between now and then

[dire flume]

I think Africa 2 was being talked about before varhinga was out

[dire flume]

Yes so I don’t think they had Africa 2 in production then but I think it’s hopefully in planning right now

[wooden peak]

Mr Wellington......You like the rest that keep on regurgitating what could , what should , the ifs and the buts , I leave that up to you and yours...You like the rest of those individuals that are at the mercy of EW and get elated when they stend out their hands from you to feed from, I leave you at that, and yes, I have 13,000 hours of experience of playing this game of knowning what needs, should have it included and tell me " who " is wasting time here. Its laughable !!.. LOL.. So in conclusion I will leave this post and leave you with your begging , and scroundling of EW to make you an Africa 2.0 by your continous begging and posting 5 million threats here so you can feel that EW is listenning to you!!.. LOL

[mystic token]

it's nicer when you're quiet

[strange viper]

Good grief
Did you even read the messages that were sent below your's?

[patent agate]

@wooden peak you've been in discord 3 months. I'm just gonna go ahead and say you are just grandstanding and trying to take the high ground in a swamp. Yes we are here making noise and conversations about Africa 2.0 but the devs themselves have continously told us this is exactly what they want to see. No one is making threats against EW or their staff and we've all been working together on this for longer than you have been in the discord.

If this is all you can contribute why are you even in the thread? Why come here and annoy people? You are the problem. Seek help.

[quasi peak]

https://tenor.com/view/what-is-happening-this-what-gif-19803847

As we have said before - and this goes for everyone ... in like every thread:

• if you do not agree or cannot be civil - just block one another and move on.

• Open forum means you do not get to dictate that people cannot come in and voice opinions. You don't have to get along or accept their opinions - but they do have the right to give them. Take that chance to keep it kosher and either rebutt their stance/point with civility... or block/ignore and don't deal with them. Surprising the amount of steam that people run out of when they yell into a room that does not listen.

• Lets also avoid dogpiling or pushing people to leave - that's just a sour taste in the mouth of people who are new to the community who might see older members acting like this. Can easily prevent them from taking part if they see people get bashed on.

• If you have an issue, and its not resolving, send a DM to the @limpid nebula bot with photo evidence in the message. Mods are here to handle disputes etc.

-# Give us more Africa 2.0 ideas in the meantime. Party on

[patent agate]

Most people don't come to the thread just to annoy people either

[quasi peak]

Thats the beauty of the block button.
Let'em be loud and whinge all they want about stuff. ....to themselves.

[patent agate]

Fair

[patent agate]

Hey folks, had a thought just now figured I'd ask here.

Lots of us here really like old school rifles so I was wondering if you guys like old scopes as well? Just like rifles have so many different designs from back in the day, scopes were different too.

Would you like a fixed, old style scope or would you rather have just a skin for the variable scopes already in game? One that matches the rifles it would be applied too

[mighty rampart]

You need studying, can tell your the sort of guy who can rock up 13,000 hours on a video game. At least I have a life outside of COTW doing proper meaningful work.

Accusing people of making 5 million threats? Not even sure hot to respond to that Kak

We don’t want unpleasant individuals on this thread. Come here to cause problems and stir trouble. Leave us in peace or contribute properly.

And you’ve heavily edited your initial message in a desperate attempt to make it seem more reasonable?

You never said you understood it’s intention in your initial message.

Pathetic mentality I’ll individual, you made a fake account to try and cause problems in our server, I’m well aware as to who you are. Pathetic individual with no bollocks.

[mighty rampart]

Not even 3 months he joined 3 days ago on the 18th, and he’s only commented on this post out of every channel on the server. think it’s a throwaway account. Probably 2Blave or another name that comes to mind he’s the only guy that has an issue with this thread that I’ve met.

Regardless let’s carry on an move past whoever comes here to pour cold water on our idea and community!

[patent agate]

Yeah, definitely ignorable

Anyway, do you see many gazelle on patrol? I just realized I don't think we've seen them a lot in this thread

[mighty rampart]

Predominantly impala, never seen a springbok, but I have a skin of one on my living room floor. 🦌

[patent agate]

Interesting, I'd have thought you'd see springboks in similar numbers but I do see way more impala hunting than sprngbok or gazelle of some kind. Kind of a shame, I love Grant's Gazelle

[stuck trench]

Lets leave it in the past

[mighty rampart]

Think they’re more common in the centeral part of the country. Not fully sure.

[patent agate]

I think, just as light plains game, impala and hartebeest/blesbok would be my favorite animals in Africa. I'd love either but I'd be ecstatic for both

[mighty rampart]

Have we talked about bosbok before?

[untold maple]

You haven’t seen a springbok?

[mighty rampart]

Never, and I really don’t know how.🫣

[untold maple]

Consider me flabbergasted

[mighty rampart]

Haha, seen literally everything else but them

[patent agate]

I feel like bosbok have been mentioned but I can't really remember much about it

[untold maple]

At this point we’ve mentioned just about everything from Africa that’s wildlife related. Somewhere up the line we’ve talked about the nine different bushbucks

[mighty rampart]

I can’t really recall that far!

[dense folio]

1. Written by AI
2. Touch grass you nerd
3. All of your claims of superiority are clearly false

[quasi peak]

OKAY SO

WHEN I SAID. LET IT BE. BLOCK THOSE YOU DISAGREE WITH

I DID NOT MEAN CONTINUE ON.

[mighty rampart]

Let’s move past it, ask @untold maple about some Bosbuk

[dense folio]

What about African earthworms?

[patent agate]

Bosbok, interesting creature because of the pelt. What were you thinking about them @mighty rampart ?

[quasi peak]

Frecklebabies. Could make some interesting looking variations 😄

[mighty rampart]

Beautiful creatures.

As tyk just wrote the little white freckles make these guys unique and look Awsome

[patent agate]

Wow

[dense folio]

Sorry, I hadn't scrolled that far down yet.

[quasi peak]

how dare you not scroll all the way /s

[patent agate]

It looks a lot like a nyala, but I get the feeling this one would be smaller and more prone to hanging out in thick woods/light jungle

[mighty rampart]

Nyala are a bit more shaggy and have orange socks 😉

But yes the females are very similar

[untold maple]

When I was in Africa, I asked my PH what the most dangerous plains game animal was, and he said Bushbuck

[dusky oak]

Oi drop it

[mighty rampart]

We have that was from earlier

[patent agate]

We did

[dusky oak]

Just saw

My bad

[untold maple]

Same family tree, their related to kudu, nyala, and eland

[mighty rampart]

Yeah those guys will murr you. They messed up a few of our dogs in the past.

[patent agate]

OK, hold on I just found a whole guide for farming bush buck. Is this a repopulation effort or something weird?

[quasi peak]

"It is found in a wide range of habitats, such as rain forests, montane forests, forest-savanna mosaic, savanna, bushveld, and woodland." according to wiki

[mighty rampart]

Maybe for game meats. I’ve not heard of any farms specialising in them.

[untold maple]

Game farming. Mostly about selling genetics at auction

[quasi peak]

also population is considered least concern - so re: farming probs as Wellington said

[patent agate]

I'm not entirely opposed to raising game or meat. But I kinda feel weird about farming them for trophies

[untold maple]

Well in this case it’s not about selling a trophy animal. It’s more about selling the father of a trophy animal

[mortal rain]

I believe in that case the animal gets sent to a ranch I don’t really mind, African Hunting Ranches are usually massive and free range.

[mighty rampart]

That’s a different kettle of fish. It’s alright as long as it’s not canned hunting, which only really happens for predators. But I do get what you mean.

Love how we can turn a bad situation into some fresh energy for the Africa 2 community!

Planning on going back out into the bush soon, I’ll get you guys some lekker videos.

[patent agate]

There's a place 3 hours from my house raising bosbok. Texas is a weird place

[mighty rampart]

Would like to see them doing similar stuff back in the uk.

[untold maple]

Ooooo
@mighty rampart is going on a night portal

[quasi peak]

I just gotta know.. What does Lekker mean - because I'm telling myself its similar to the German word

[mighty rampart]

I’m not! (Luckily) still here!

@quasi peak it means “nice”

[quasi peak]

oh right on. German lecker means "delicious" (but I guess contextually could maybe be used to explain "delicious content")

[patent agate]

I could drive there today and get a whole carcass for about 600$ apparently.

I wanna be clear, if the animal is bought to breed on a 1000 acre ranch I'm okay with it, but if it's literally let out of a cage 5 minutes before the "hunter" gets there, then I hope "hunter" shoots himself in both feet

[untold maple]

Good to more rhinos

[mighty rampart]

100% that’s not hunting.

I disagree with vehicle hunting as well, pretty skilless. Animals are used to vehicles, you can get extremely close in one.

If your not tracking the thing on foot it’s unsporting and cheap.

[untold maple]

I agree with you…but with some exceptions. Like if a client has an injury or disability, then I feel it’s okay. But everyone else should stalk on foot

[patent agate]

I only saw one vehicle hunt that I didn't despise. It's a pair of guys who live close to me but go down to the desert side of Wyo to hunt pronghorn.

They have a van rigged for offroad work that they drive through the area and try to spot animals. They stalk in from 500 plus yards usually and then bring the van over to pick up the animal. They rigged a makeshift cooler in the back to cool the carcass faster

[mighty rampart]

I can see that 100%

[untold maple]

Use the vehicle don’t abuse the vehicle(for hunting), I like that

[patent agate]

They're more interested in the meat than the trophy, but they usually give me the hides for leather

Bushbuck are interesting little antelope

[mighty rampart]

Awsome little dudes

[patent agate]

Interesting. Also, blesbok are not as big I thought. They're not much larger than a whitetail deer

[strange viper]

Workin on it @mighty rampart 🔥

[untold maple]

From experience, yeah they’re really not that big. The pictures lie to you until you actually see one

[patent agate]

I'd say class 5 more than 6,

[mortal rain]

I’d say 4/5, definitely not class 6.

[patent agate]

Yeah, a big 4 or a 5 for sure

[main knot]

Does anyone have a link to the top 😂 its like a million messages to scroll up, or if there even is a species list

[dire prism]

it's pinned, second message

[main knot]

thanks

[mighty rampart]

Already looks amazing dude!

[patent agate]

So, diamond/GO/mission elephant with scars from fighting other bulls

Thoughts?

[untold maple]

Definitely great one

[patent agate]

Man looks
A: concerned about touching the skull

B: like he's doing his best to stay far away from it

C: constipated af

You cannot change my mind

[mighty rampart]

😂😂

[untold maple]

Knowing that this was Sudan in the 1919…it’s most likely C

[strange viper]

First concept for a logo

[patent agate]

Replace the question mark with a 4 and I'll give you 50 bucks

Wondered about a themed outfit and found this. Looks fine but man's never touched a rifle before in his life. Also, synthetic stock? C'mon now, even a prop rifle should be wood stocked if you do a "historical themed" photo shoot

Looking at it now, hate how much it looks like the .270 Huntsman

[mighty rampart]

Wow, this beyond cool!

First the map and now this, looks incredible. Seriously impressed dude!

[glad loom]

202 BC?

I'm almost 100% positive this map is coming in June 2027

[main knot]

that looks sweet

[glad loom]

I'm working on something 👀

[finite iris]

uh oh.... he abt to cook something UP!!!!!!!

[glad loom]

Ladies and Gentlemen, let your imagination loose

[noble knot]

I feel like the I don’t need it sponge Bob meme about Africa 2.0 the most requested map but not a single hint of its creation it is understandable but I am still growing weary of it not being addressed officially

[glad loom]

The biggest hint/tease they can make is to release a new trophy lodge DLC with some gigantic stands and placks that for some reason current class 9 species look small on 👀

[noble knot]

Oh please let that happen 🙏

[broken raven]

Wow, that looks awesome.

[patent agate]

.500 NE over/under, reward for taking down 100 GO elephants as a community

[glad loom]

That would be nice

Btw, here's the logo with transparent background

[dusky oak]

By chance have yall discussed hyena as a possible species to hunt?

[patent agate]

Somewhere in here, I think we settled on class 5(?)making the most sense for spotted hyena. Has been a while tho

[patent agate]

EW could make merch outta this, pop this logo on a black ball cap and I'd buy it.

[dusky oak]

Yeah but they could be higher considering they have a greater bite force than wolves iirc so therefore more damage

[patent agate]

Like I said, been a while. I think we were kinda wavering between 5 and 6. I'm up for either tbh but don't they usually run in smaller groups than wolves?

[dusky oak]

Wolves have 6 or 7 per pack and a hyena clan has 8 to 130 members

[glad loom]

All I know is I want them to circle the player in the Savanna like wolves do on Medved

[patent agate]

I'm gonna be honest with you, I'm still stunlocked after finding out how big blesbok really are yesterday, you need somebody with a functional brain to talk about hyenas with

[dusky oak]

Fair enough

[untold maple]

Every picture on google makes them look like they’re the size of a heartabeest or something.

[untold maple]

Oh yeah. We’ve talked about spotted, brown, striped, Aardwolf, class, if females should be the trophy animals

[dusky oak]

Females should be yes

Easily

They’re meaner

[patent agate]

See, you found someone with a brain

Evidence A, looks very large and makes you think it would be on the same level as wildebeest or something

Evidence B, proof that they are not so large. Or of giants. Hard to tell.

[hard lagoon]

Then they added the bengal tiger for you to hunt, which is endangered.

[mighty rampart]

100%

[amber kindle]

Better the "African Savanna Elephant." Don't forget the "African Forest Elephant"; I also want this in COTW in the future.

[amber kindle]

The people might confuse the Blesbok with the Bontebok.

[amber kindle]

This must be avoided at all costs if they want this animal, called a bushbuck, to return to its natural habitat. Zero human contact.

[open lynx]

Just wait for the new hunting game dropping next year. At launch you can hunt big game. Exciting stuff. Can’t wait.

[patent agate]

It's not so much a repopultion effort as much as improving genetics and raising zoo animals. The bushbuck population is fine tho

[glad loom]

200

[mortal rain]

That was months before Sundarpatan….

[patent agate]

??? Either one would be interesting but I don't see a reason to have both unless they'd be on separate maps. I was more or less talking about the size of the animal more than saying we needed one

Honestly, impala would be my go to plains game but it's class 4 so I'd like to see blesbok or bontebuck class 5 for a little more variety

[amber kindle]

The subspecies Bontebok (Damaliscus pygargus pygargus) and Blesbok (D. p. phillipsi) are endemic antelope of South Africa. Blesbok: there are two variants (White Blesbok and Yellow Blesbok) and those variants have been bred by South African game farmers for commercial purposes. The descendents of cross-breeds of variants with common are fertile an they are thus regarded as a risk for the genetic integrity of both blesbok and bontebok. The Bontebok Population is approximately 4000 and the risk is the interbreeding with blesbok on private land white Blesbok population is 250.000.

[amber kindle]

I know, I was just commenting on this species. I prefer both subspecies on a single map of South Africa. I agree with the idea of class. This would be the Southern Impala. The horns of the Eastern Impala subspecies are longer than those of the other two subspecies (Southern and Black African).

[buoyant cosmos]

Even more endangered than the African Elephants that we so desire. Heck, the African Forest Elephant is less endangered despite being labeled as “critically endangered”.

[dusky oak]

If they do elephants they should also do Rhino

[buoyant cosmos]

Agreed. Elephants, White Rhinos, Hippos, Crocodiles, and Giraffes. All are animals I want.

[dusky oak]

I think white rhino are extinct iirc

No

Just near threatened

[mortal rain]

In north/east africa.

[dusky oak]

Oof

[mortal rain]

Southern Africa they are doing relatively well.

[buoyant cosmos]

Yeah the Northern White Rhino just recently went extinct but the Southern White Rhino is doing really well in the wild. Black Rhinos are doing pretty well in Namibia but they’re struggling elsewhere

[main knot]

would you like me to draw some stuff 👀

[glad loom]

Can you make the face logos for Rhinos or Hippos? I'll make the spotting screen

[sick zodiac]

WE NEED FUR DRAWING OF THE CREATURES

[patent agate]

So, just remembered this could be a thing. This bow is made from gemsbok horns, literally just two horns on each end of a wooden riser/handle.

80 pound draw weight in most cases.

Now, imagine you end up with this as a mission reward. Maybe you have to track down a diamond gemsbok, maybe it's a gift from an elder for taking down a rogue or a Maneater of some kind. Might be cool

[mighty rampart]

These look super cool!

[patent agate]

Hold up, found something else you might like

[mighty rampart]

If we could get a rhino one that would be the cherry on top!

@patent agate let’s see!

[patent agate]

Lol, how's this then?

[patent agate]

This is all a company called Blacktail bows, they have a whole collection for African big game

You can get your own bow, custom made with any of these carvings, so this would make an amazing reward for missions, I think I might like the horn bow more though

[noble knot]

At the local antique shop there is So many Kudu wood carvings there is like 20 in separate booths

[plucky quarry]

[main knot]

@mighty rampart @glad loom I ment like Great One things for an Elephant or something lol

[patent agate]

Consider GO rhino

[sick zodiac]

Maybe if you kill those creatures you get those styles

[sick zodiac]

How about after completing the mission you need a gemsbok to get the bow

[untold maple]

Something Like the 6.5 from Cuatro

[mighty rampart]

Ngl they look really cool!

[patent agate]

I'd love a mission chain that ends with you impressing an elder enough that he asks you to hunt a gold or diamond size gemsbok so he can "teach you" how to make the kind of bow his ancestors hunted with

[noble knot]

Do horns even have enough flex to shoot an arrow or is it just a ornamental creation

[patent agate]

Yes. Actually horn makes one of the best bow materials available. Plains Tribes in the US used buffalo horn to make composite bows for use on horseback that were so strong they could punch through a buffalo shoulder to shoulder. The Mongols used composite bows on horseback to build an empire. It's insane but yea, even antler can be used in bows

[noble knot]

Oh cool

[patent agate]

The gemsbok horn bows I'm showing are made simply but they end up with a draw weight between 80 and 120 pounds generally. They were classed as war bows but some tribes used them to hunt buffalo and lions

[mighty rampart]

Look Awsome

[plucky quarry]

Is bow widely used in hunting in Africa?

[plucky quarry]

I liked the idea

[mighty rampart]

Ish

[patent agate]

Compared to regular old beef how is it?

[untold maple]

What we should talk about is the price of that shoulder. 53 Rand(3 usd, 2 pounds, 2 Euro) is a crazy good price for a meal

[mighty rampart]

Tastes like venison

[mighty rampart]

Yeah around £2.24 for 3 massive steaks for just under a kilogram.

[dense folio]

Zamn

[patent agate]

Worth it. But tbh I'd be disappointed if giraffe tasted the same as whitetail lol

[noble knot]

I feel like most wild game taste the same

[buoyant cosmos]

A lot of wild game tastes very similar. GOOD Whitetail meat, Elk, and Moose are all fairly similar with only some differences,

[final current]

Age and diet can be a factor too from my understanding

[buoyant cosmos]

Diet is definitely a factor. Elk basically taste like what they eat, if they’re eating Grasses and Berries, they’ll taste sweeter, but if they’re eating Sage they’re gonna taste like Sage. Whitetail is kinda the same and I’d assume moose is as well,

[manic vigil]

I concur. I've had Whitetail several times and elk like once and the taste was quite the same except for a few subtle differences

[buoyant cosmos]

I really won’t eat whitetail unless it was corn or grass fed. My Moms Dad hunts whitetail in South Dakota and they almost always eat corn, so they’re really good tasting. Compare that to Whitetail up here in Idaho, which tastes kinda like sage or bark. Same goes for Mulies except any gaminess goes away if you soak it in buttermilk for a few hours.

[manic vigil]

the place i hunt is just woods with no farmland so the whitetails there aren't feeding on corn or anything like that. i would assume they eat grass from nearby fields tho

[buoyant cosmos]

Then again, I was practically raised on nothing but Elk and Moose, so I’m a bit of a snob when it comes to game meat lol

[manic vigil]

lol. in contrast i've lived in the east all my life so just Whitetail for me lol (im grateful for it though because it's good stuff either way)

[buoyant cosmos]

I think the reason I’m not as much of a deer guy is because they taste much more like what they eat than Elk. Elk are gonna be sorta sweet no matter what they eat, but deer are gonna kinda taste like what they eat. If they eat Sagebrush, it’ll taste like I’m eating Sagebrush.

[manic vigil]

that's fair. the one time i had Elk i remember it being pretty sweet. unless i ever go out west on an Elk hunt one day (which will likely happen one day) i really hope i get another chance to have Elk because it was really good

[main knot]

idk, ive never liked elk personally, mule deer are good tasting for me

[buoyant cosmos]

I don’t mind Mulies, I prefer them over something like Pronghorn even when cooked right, but they do have a very Gamey taste to me. I usually soak them in buttermilk and then marinate them in some sort of sauce or marinade,

[main knot]

I like the gamey taste I guess lol 😂 I know not everyone does tho

[buoyant cosmos]

It just depends how Gamey. I like the gaminess of something like Chukar or Quail, but Mulies can be a bit much for me. They just eat so much sage throughout the year that it messes with me.

[main knot]

Also depends on their age too, an old mulie can be really tough, even the "tender" loins are tough

[buoyant cosmos]

Yeah, bucks in general seem to be pretty tough and chewy. The only 2 Mulies I’ve ever personally killed were both fairly young does, about 2 years old.

[main knot]

yeah, but when wild game is good, and not gamey its really good meat

[buoyant cosmos]

For sure. Much better than just straight beef.

[patent agate]

Y'all need to try blackbear that's loaded on corn, I like whitetail just fine but bear was the one thing I really worked on every year. Whitetail is also great if you get a deer that was on acorns, kinda gives it a taste like walnuts or pecans.

Since I moved to Wyoming I got elk, mule deer and black bear but I don't care for the bear meat as much unless it's a spring berry one

[dire prism]

Up in the mountain country here in Colorado mule deer is about time of year for taste. If you want sweet venison without too much gaminess you really want to hunt archery or muzzleloader. If you're okay with a sort of earthy resiny taste then you can do first or second rifle. Third rifle and winter antlerless though tend to be pretty bitter, since they're living off sagebrush, lichens, and tree bark.

[main knot]

I aint ever eating bear, not risking it for worms

[untold maple]

Not even blueberry bears?

[mortal rain]

It ain’t much different than cooking pork, cook thoroughly.

[patent agate]

Dude if you can cook pork you can cook bear (mountain lion too)

Pop a bear shoulder on the smoker and cook low and slow for 12 hours and that stuff comes apart like pulled pork.

Now I think of it, can you do cape buffalo this way?

[untold maple]

I dream about Texas style BBQ but with African meats.

I saw a video of one guy who smoked a hole ostrich, and now I have this ongoing craving for more like it

[patent agate]

Where's this video? Texas style Eland barbecue, Memphis style warthog ribs, Kentucky style impala, there's so much crazy opportunity that exists in this little idea

[final current]

I've seen that video, it took place in Vietnam

[untold maple]

From the Best Ever Food Review Show. All you have to do is look up smoked ostrich

[patent agate]

I'm googling that right now it's 1 am but I'm starving lol

[untold maple]

Smoked guinea fowl with white BBQ sauce sounds crazy good right now

[patent agate]

How big a grill would you need for a giraffe shoulder

I have guineas in the freezer! That's tomorrow's supper plans

[untold maple]

I’d imagine a really big one. But then you can do other really big meats as well

You’ll have to tell me if that ends up good, it sounds really good to me

[patent agate]

Hey, to be honest, I was just gonna do a Memphis rub on them

[untold maple]

I personally would do Alabama style with the white sauce, but you do you

[patent agate]

Consequence of growing up in TN you don't get much good barbecue unless it's a Memphis joint

Plus, dry rub has the advantage of put it into an empty water bottle and throw it in your backpack portability

[untold maple]

Great now I’m gonna be up all night thinking of African bbq!

Pulled bushpig sandwich, cape buffalo brisket, sable burnt ends(maybe?), smoked Nile crocodile tacos, lechwe sausage(I’ve had it before but not bbq style)

[patent agate]

Buffalo and eland sound incredible for brisket, has anyone done that? They are both in Texas so someone has to have tried it

[untold maple]

There’s undoubtedly someone that’s done it.

Oh no…now I’m thinking of African Cajun Food!😫

[patent agate]

If crocodile is anything like gator then I wanna make popcorn crocodile

Lmfao I was thinking crocs would be great for jambalaya 🍻

You could definitely do blackened impala too

[untold maple]

Mmmmmmm blackened tigerfish(maybe, I haven’t heard anything about anyone eating tigerfish)

[patent agate]

Nah, I'm going for one of the catfish for that

Also KUDU FAJITAS

[untold maple]

Oooooooooo

[patent agate]

Africa has so many opportunities tho, I'm sure there's infinite opportunities for incredible meals

[untold maple]

Zebra meatloaf maybe?(im not a big meatloaf guy but now im just throwing ideas out)

Better idea. Zebra short ribs

[patent agate]

Hey, venison makes an awesome meatloaf . . .or chili, chili is insanely good

[untold maple]

Heartabeest chili I can see

[patent agate]

I feel like wildebeest would be a perfect meat to braise or stew, just a really nice thick stew on a cool day

[untold maple]

Gnu stew

[patent agate]

Lol no puns!

Dude, I found blesbok stew meat online but it's 125$a pound

[untold maple]

How I wish we were allowed to bring back our meat from hunts😭

[patent agate]

Right?! I'd absolutely go if I could bring home the meat

I promise you, if we could bring home the meat I'd go to Africa once a year to put something good in the freezer trophy or not

[sick zodiac]

I love Blesbok. So much that on tiktok my mascot are Blesboks

[mighty rampart]

Giraffe steaks did not agree with my bowels, never again

[untold maple]

I bet that sucked. Did it at least taste good?

[patent agate]

Ouch, you okay now at least?

[mighty rampart]

Yeah

[noble knot]

I have heard that some large game meat has really high levels of certain vitamins and or proteins that do not mix well with people who are not raised on it and or gut microbiome is adapted

[patent agate]

That or he got one slightly off, it happens with store bought meats quite a bit.

[untold maple]

Funky giraffe

A problem nobody thinks about until it happens

[mighty rampart]

We have a tip off about a weapon being transported, wish me luck we’re going to ambush the car with police

[patent agate]

Wish y'all luck then, hope you catch them

[untold maple]

Good luck man, go get em!

[noble knot]

Good luck

[dire prism]

good luck, hope it goes well for y'all

[main knot]

im too scared

[patent agate]

Treat it just like pork, make sure it's cooked thoroughly and you'll be fine

[main knot]

too scared

[patent agate]

Steven Rinella got trichinosis from bear meat, yes, but he knows it wasn't cooked well enough. He still hunts them and feeds his family without worrying too much

[main knot]

too scared

[patent agate]

Alright, I'm just blocking you now

[main knot]

sorry

[patent agate]

My phone is covered in blood now,texting while cleaning a goat is a bad idea

[glad loom]

Just so y'all realize, this is on it's way to double https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1070045518002147458 and quadrupled https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1207357430963507281 in likes! 👍

[mighty rampart]

Closing in on 1250

[patent agate]

How'd the raid go Boss?

[tranquil phoenix]

Hey all you might not remember me but it's NZGA2026-2032 with a different name and PFP after a good and much needed 3 month break I am back into the beautiful world of Hunting and the Outdoors and my first and favourite Hunting Game COTW I cannot tell you how happy I am to be back and I can't wait to catch up with you all for the moment I'll be quite active again ( if Discord allows me to ) and I might start posting again but I'll still be taking a while to be playing COTW again

[tranquil phoenix]

That makes me think now I noticed that my upvote for this post is gone and I'm not entirely sure why that is but for the second time I'll be upvoting ❤️🇿🇦 🇳🇦 🇧🇼 🇿🇲 🇿🇼 🇲🇿 🐘 🐃🦒🦏🦛🦁🐆 🌍🌍🔥🔥

[patent agate]

Glad to have you back!

[noble knot]

Hey you had the ptarmigan pfp before right?

Ether way good to see you back!

[patent agate]

This thing looks insane, I want one so bad

[noble knot]

Would look epic on the wall

[tranquil phoenix]

@patent agate hey mate how's it going hoping all has been well for you

[tranquil phoenix]

Yes I had a Rock Ptarmigan PFP for some time

[noble knot]

Yeah I thought it was you good to see you back!

[tranquil phoenix]

Good to see you too!

[tranquil phoenix]

Good ol Red Hartebeest

[tranquil phoenix]

I agree I quite like their bizarre shaped horns with the way they curl their way up and then point back

[patent agate]

I'm good, just found out that draw hunt application didn't get chosen (Gemsbok in New Mexico)

No big deal, I reapplied for spring

[tranquil phoenix]

Better luck next time here's hoping fingers🤞

[untold maple]

Welcome back to the discord

[tranquil phoenix]

Hey! It's been awhile how have you been?

[untold maple]

I’ve been alright, nothing terribly interesting on my end

[tranquil phoenix]

Surely not it's been 3 months there's got be something but if there wasn't there wasn't have you been doing Polls though?

[untold maple]

I pretty much ran out of things to poll that’s Africa related.

[tranquil phoenix]

Bummer I kinda came back for that exact reason but meh

[untold maple]

Oh dang, really! I feel like I need to bring back the African polls then. I’ll cook something up later(I will bring back older polls as well)

[tranquil phoenix]

@untold maple let's go I'll try and come up with some myself too so it's not all on you

[untold maple]

Bye all means, go nuts

[tranquil phoenix]

@untold maple how do you find the new Update btw

[untold maple]

It’s not really talked a lot about, but I really like the new tent icon for the maps. Also the Grandhare being class 9 is so much better, really good on Dagga Boys

[tranquil phoenix]

I thought alot of people might enjoy the new Gandhare Buff and it's really nice to have a 4-9 Rifle since that covers so many classes

[untold maple]

I’m definitely liking it

[tranquil phoenix]

OK here's a poll for you Zambia 👍 Zimbabwe 👆

[mighty rampart]

Big nothing burger sadly, Someone leaked that we were waiting for him to move.

[patent agate]

Dang, at least y'all are safe then. Maybe next time around

[tranquil phoenix]

So other than you being a Anti-Poacher are you part of a specific Organisation are you a Government Worker? I really don't want to sound stupid but I don't really know much about it good to hear back from you though dangerous line of work

[dusky oak]

I am also curious

[patent agate]

He has mentioned it's a private organization before, I asked about a donation or something, I believe he said they don't get government funding

[tranquil phoenix]

OK thanks for the info @patent agate

[mighty rampart]

Yeah private company, only the Kruger park rangers are hired by the government here

[tranquil phoenix]

OK thanks for the information 🙂

[visual rune]

bump

[patent agate]

So, I know rabbits and hares are not the favorite but I do like the rockhares cuz the tail makes them a tiny bit unique

[tranquil phoenix]

I don't really like hunting Rabbits and Hares too in game anyway IRL was a ton of fun when I was still in New Zealand but for COTW while I don't like hunting them I still like the fact that they are still there in case I do want to shoot a few

[noble knot]

I know this may be a somewhat odd inquiry but how did you get into being a ranger?

[mighty rampart]

Knew some people, and wanted a change from the army.

[noble knot]

Oh neat

[patent agate]

Let see if you can figure out who this is, the only hint you get is that he's one of Africa's most famous hunters

(AFRICA 2.0 veterans leave it for the new guys)

[mortal rain]

Welcome back

[untold maple]

Frederic Selous

[finite iris]

I forgot and I was here since like 300 or 150 or smh

[patent agate]

Lol, I said leave it for the noobs

Either way, I'm curious what those birds are. I don't recognize them but they're pretty impressive

[untold maple]

Kori bustard

[patent agate]

Interesting, have we discussed bustards in here? Seems like it could make for an interesting animal

[untold maple]

Yeah we’ve talked about bustards before. Their mostly a west African thing

[patent agate]

Maybe another map, one more swamp focused

[mighty rampart]

We should definitely talk about birds more on here

[tranquil phoenix]

Hey! One of the OG's and one of my favourite people on the server how are you doing?
Have you made any map ideas in the time I've been offline?

[tranquil phoenix]

Despite me being interested in hunting and having hunted IRL I feel very embarrassed and stupid that I don't know the names of Famous hunters 🤦‍♂️🥲

I should read a book or two I feel like I've lost some braincells

[patent agate]

No need to feel stupid, if it's not something you've thought of learning about before then you might just read a little and find a new interest (this is not like learning about hotdogs, less gross and far more interesting)

The man in that picture is Frederick Selous, namesake of the Selous game reserve. He's got a long career in Africa as an ivory hunter and Explorer aside. He's also one of the earliest people to write about local tribes with uh. . . Less biased wording

[patent agate]

Got any in mind that you really wanna see? Birds aren't my thing exactly but I know I'd love to see guinea fowl and I vaguely remember something about a blue quail/grouse of some kind

[tranquil phoenix]

Thanks for the quick facts and kind words do you know of any good books about any historical figures to do with Hunting I know there would be quite a few and I could look at them myself but I was wondering if you might know anything

[tranquil phoenix]

White Faced Whistling Ducks are kinda cool and probably wouldn't mind them on a map

[patent agate]

I don't know too many that would be super interesting to anyone else but here's the one's I've read

Jim Corbett, I have all the books he wrote and I love every one. He's as much a conservationist as he is a hunter. He's a legend in India with a tiger reserve named after him, and a rifle in Rigby's museum that he used to hunt maneating tigers and leopards.

W.D.M. Bell, he's on the later end of ivory trade in Africa but he wrote quite a bit and even did an illustrated guide on shot placement for elephant hunting.

Frederick Selous of course, his journals are amazing and start as early in Africa as the late 1800's. He recounts a few hunts using a 4 bore muzzleloader with a one pound ball and a handful of powder

Last one I can think of is J.H. Patterson who wrote The Maneaters of Tsavo. If you've ever heard of a movie called The Ghost and the Darkness that story is based on his account of two maneating lions that hunted a railroad crew by night. Movie's well worth watching too

[untold maple]

I recommend this book. It’s all about golden age safari hunting stories

[patent agate]

I've been waiting for this one over a month because some knuckleheads at Amazon messed up my order

[noble knot]

I had to wait like a month for Cormack McCarthy’s blood meridian idk what’s amazons deal sometimes

[tranquil phoenix]

@patent agate @untold maple thanks I'll have to take a look at them and see which one I might want in the future

[patent agate]

They're surprisingly cheap on Amazon but you might have to wait longer than they say

[warped grail]

I read the whole thing and got the audiobook

It's amazing

[sick zodiac]

Yellow-billed ducks are also cool

[dire prism]

1250 votes as of 8:10 PM USMDT 9/28/2024

[mighty rampart]

Awsome, 2000 by February?😅

[patent agate]

Slow and steady, 5k is possible

[sick zodiac]

94,444 is possible even

[patent agate]

Jokes aside, the number will keep climbing up until the thread is renamed "Africa 3.0" and so on.

Africa has so much potential for big and small game that 2 maps is just not enough. Personally, I would gladly buy every Africa map EW could make

[mighty rampart]

%100

[patent agate]

Let me run this past you, is there a place in Africa you could feasibly do a half size map focusing on small game? I mean impala being the biggest animal on the map small?

[mortal rain]

Congo would be my first choice, no impala though.
I’d love a tiny 10 centered map.

[patent agate]

Impala was just a size comparison to show what I meant. But yeah, a Tiny Ten map would be sweet. I had a bit of an idea that it was a heavily managed ranch/reserve, that encourages bow hunting

[mortal rain]

People seem to love Muntjac and Musk deer so I think the likelihood of that map coming to fruition is fairly high!

[patent agate]

Ive got a crap ton going on but I want to do some research and get it posted up sometime soon. Got the idea from the gemsbok bow I posted a while back

[glad loom]

What would the species be on Africa 3.0 if all the species here get released with Africa 2.0? 🤔

[mortal rain]

It all depends on where EW chooses lol
Africa is completely different no matter where you point

[patent agate]

Liam's right but we won't run out of animals to hunt in Africa.

[untold maple]

A Congo map would still be pretty big. Forest elephants, dwarf Buffalo, lord derby eland(you can find them in the jungle parts of Wes Africa,they’re not just a savanna animal) bongo, etc. that requires a lot of space

[mortal rain]

Lord Derby Eland and Forest Elephant (for the most part) live in a tiny part of what we call the Congo, to the point where I wouldn’t even mind seeing the two maps completely separate (CAR/Camroon) and true Congo.

[dire prism]

its definitely possible

i think it can definitely hit 1500 before the end of the year, maybe as high as 1750

I'd expect an influx of upvotes from the end of november through the new year as high schoolers and uni students go on thanksgiving/winter break

[glad loom]

I want the 3rd Africa to be Namibia

[patent agate]

We could legitimately have 5 maps for Africa. There are so many options for plains game alone

[dire prism]

honestly if we count upland fowl and other small game plus play the conservation angle that Sundar has for tigers/snow leopards to include otherwise unhuntable species we could have upwards of 7 or 8

[patent agate]

I'd buy that many, I know I would. Might be the only game on my ps5 but it'll be there

Pandora had a weird sense of humor, I'm reading about Africa and Wheezer just popped up

[glad loom]

In theory, with next one being SIXTEENTH, we should've had at least 2 Africa by now

[dire flume]

I think they are waiting Becuase if the released a varhonga class Africa 2 map people would be disappointed

[mortal rain]

Explain further(

[tranquil phoenix]

I agree 👍 I'm just thinking would Africa 2.0 be multination or singular because them that could open up more countries for maps rather than having one map that covers South Africa, Botswana and Zambia or something like that

[patent agate]

I wanna see the map flow between environments like Emerald Coast does, I want the rare predators like Sundarpatan, and a large selection of plains game or real heavyweights like elephants and hippos. I'd love to see them do a "test map" for Africa 2.0 with a bunch of plains game options and then a fully double sized map for the big five.

I'd gladly delete everything on my ps5 to make room for it, except rdr2 and MHW/Wilds

[dreamy viper]

If they decide to implement leopards I would really love it if they also stalk instead of flee like the tigers. For example they can jump down on you from a tree. Ek sal net moerse groot skrik😅

[mighty rampart]

Would be a cool feature

[dire flume]

If they didn’t go all out with the big 5 and did just another antelope map with leopards as the main species

Don’t get me wrong that Africa is better than no new Africa but we are expecting Africa 2 to be big 5 and I think a while back in this thread someone suggested to start calling Africa big 5 instead of Africa 2 to make the point we want the big 5

[mortal rain]

I’d say that would just add to the hype.

[dire flume]

I think the could make “leopord trees” becuase they won’t be able to climb every tee

[untold maple]

If they made tree mechanics for leopard they should also give it to other animals as well(specifically cougar and black bear)

[willow mortar]

And roosting for turkeys

[patent agate]

Blue quail. Thoughts?

[rotund island]

Made you look

[untold maple]

Art by Lucie Bilodeau

[patent agate]

This map needs to be a thing

[warped grail]

I think having leopard feed and rest zones being up trees would be perfect

[mortal rain]

Need them.

[warped grail]

I'd dare say that EW should have Wellington be the expert advisor for the map/roster since he works with wildlife on an African reserve

[mighty rampart]

Been away for two days I’m Mozambique and then raided a squatter camp yesterday so not been as active as I would like!

[rotund island]

Be safe, we'll be here!

[mighty rampart]

Day before yesterday

[patent agate]

Tried looking before hitting play and I almost didn't see it lol, what a beauty tho. They must be used to tourist if you can get that close

[halcyon marsh]

Leopard should be class 5 as in reality they are just slightly smaller than cougars and hyena should be 6

Honey badger could be class 2 or 3

ostrich is hard...id say maybe 5 or 6

[main knot]

nah leopards need to be class 7 or 8

[halcyon marsh]

for rarity i agree but soly baised off size it should be 5 maybe it could be 7 and similar to the Tigers that only one (maybe two) in each region

[mighty rampart]

They’re not shot based on their size, in Africa predator calibres are determined by how fats they can put the animal Down.

Wound a leopard and I’m telling you now your in serious danger when you start tracking that thing, It will f you up

[dreamy viper]

I've heard so many terrifying stories about leopards and hunters

[untold maple]

You and everyone around you.
If I remember right, the highest recorded of people mold in one attack was 7 people. jumping from person to person

[mighty rampart]

Sounds about right, those things will make you kak

[patent agate]

Anybody unfamiliar.

Lions and leopards are largely regarded as dangerous game, fairly, because they are extremely powerful predators. Part of the reason large bore rifles are used is to minimize the chance of attack from a wounded animal.

Lions have an instinctive pattern to target one person out of a group and use all their last few seconds in a VERY DETERMINED attack to kill said person. Doesn't matter if it's the hunter, the guide, the trackers, or some fella herding livestock in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Leopards react a bit differently when they charge a group their goal is to get to and maul as many people as possible as quickly as they can.

You are not using a large bore rifle because of the size of the animal. YOU USE A LARGE BORE TO MAKE SURE YOUR STUPIDITY DOESN'T GET SOMEONE ELSE KILLED

Just a reminder. Cape buffalo are equally dangerous and it's not advisable to take your eyes off them (if this is a little much I can delete it, just let me know)

[halcyon marsh]

Oh ok, sorry I haven’t played much recently due to school and forgot a lot

[dawn dew]

“Fatally Gored In Groin..” 🫨

[patent agate]

Yeah, ain't a good way to go

[noble knot]

The groin that is not a fun way to go out

[mighty rampart]

Not fun

[patent agate]

It's not just getting hooked there either, that bull feels something on his horn and he will do his best to throw it off by any means necessary. You'd be ragg dolled, while that horn is tearing up whatever it's in, until you were thrown off. Then it'll still be pi**ed and stomping on you.

Seen this happen with a rodeo bull, don't want to think about it with a cape buffalo's curved horn in the mix

[untold maple]

Just had a thought,
How insane would it be if someone(very stupid) rode a Cape buffalo during a rodeo. It would be crazy cool…but also crazy dump(to someone that reads this and thinks that would be cool…please don’t)

[mortal rain]

New execution method?

[untold maple]

That’s some Roman Colosseum stuff right there

[patent agate]

Dude, you know some dipstick would 100%do that if they were smart enough to read this.

[untold maple]

If…if is good

I’ll take an if

[patent agate]

So, not to rant. But I need to ask this, how do you tolerate the kind of idiot who stops his MINI COOPER in the middle of a one way road to get pictures of a Mule deer and telling everyone trying to get home they can wait until he gets enough pictures of "that giant elk"

Cuz I'm washing I had some bear spray

[mortal rain]

Bear mace to the eyes usually does the trick

[patent agate]

This is the 3rd person in two days mistaking deer and elk. I'm starting to lose my patience. I can somewhat understand not knowing the difference between mule and blacktail deer.

I bet this is exactly how tour guides in Africa feel

[patent agate]

This has been done. . .

Think about it like this, you know that American cowboys have gone to Africa to hunt. You know some of them have been showriders. At some point this has probably been tried between the beer and bravado

[untold maple]

Someone riding a Cape buffalo or someone reading a really bad idea and going through with it?

[patent agate]

Both

[untold maple]

BOTH!!!
Someone was actually insane enough to ride a Cape buffalo aka the Black Death, the widomaker, and the African land lord!

[patent agate]

I mean, riding a cape buffalo is somewhat impressive and interesting to have on your headstone

But reading something horribly stupid and deciding that it absolutely can't go bad if you do it is how you end up in the newspaper for dying like a dumb***

[patent agate]

Land lord is a new one to me. Interesting.

But I just realized, there's cape buffalo in Texas. It wouldn't surprise me that's on a tombstone somewhere

[untold maple]

Yeah the phrase goes, a Cape Buffalo will look at you like you owe them money. So I decided to call them that now

And you can find just about anything in Texas

[patent agate]

Texas is trying to mimic pangea istg

[untold maple]

Elk, fallow deer, gemsbok, Nilgia, Rhea
I think you’re right!

[patent agate]

I'm gonna go ahead and say this now and I refuse to apologize.

There's a fairly good chance that eventually a storm with absolutely destroy one of the ranches and the US is gonna have between several dozen and several hundred new invasive animals to deal with.

I sincerely hope that impala, dama gazelle, and dikdik explode in population and make feral pigs look infertile. I'd be so happy with them

[untold maple]

It’s already happened with gemsbok,Nilgai, and axis deer(though not hog population levels)

[patent agate]

I mean like impala running with Pronghorns. That would be fun. . .

I just had a thought. There's water buffalo in Texas and Florida, at some point they WILL get outside the fences and we've suddenly got swamp tractors out there with the gators, pythons, and water moccasins.

($$#$$# SWAMPS)

[final current]

On a similar but unrelated note there is probably an Alternate Universe where you can hunt tigers on game ranches in Texas, after all Texas supposedly has more tigers then all of Asia (supposedly). IRL such an operation is illegal but in an alternate universe who knows

[patent agate]

I'm legitimately surprised some deranged millionaire hasn't found a way to farm elephants for their ivory. Texans are imaginative so I figured they'd have come up with some way to do it.

Maybe trim a pound off each year and auction it off like some disgustingly expensive wine

[final current]

Rhinoceros could have been farmed for their horns, at least rhinoceros horn can regrow after a while

[patent agate]

Nature is insane. People are insane, just in the stupid way.

[untold maple]

A couple of decades ago in South Africa there were rhino and elephant farms for that exact reason. But then they made that illegal and populations for both took an absolute beating.

And elephant sanctuaries in Asia will trim the tusks of their elephants and sell them

[patent agate]

I'm not surprised by any of this, honestly. But if they were heavily regulated and licensed then would that not be acceptable? I mean if there was a legal source of ivory that didn't risk jail time would that not drive the price of illegal ivory down? I mean, if there's less profit there's less interest generally

[noble knot]

That would be a very costly endeavor

[patent agate]

And yet, I somehow feel ivory would actually be worth it. At least if you kept a small number of animals and had some way to guarantee a solid food source/water

[noble knot]

But the amount of time legal cost and they would cost millions in food costs for a sustainable size heard as much as I wish we could have a safe sustainable way to get ivory but they would be too hard to harvest

[patent agate]

It would absolutely take a concerted effort from a ton of directions to be possible but honestly it would drive down ivory /rhino horn prices. It's also much more humane than the circuses that still have elephants as part of the show. The farms could even function as a sort of education center with donations helping to fund it as well as more conservation efforts. Honestly not much difference between zoos

I'm filling out draw hunt applications while doing this

[noble knot]

That’s fair enough although Unfortunately we have a organization known as Peta messing anything up as far as public image goes

[untold maple]

For are you going for?

[patent agate]

Gensbok, scimitar oryx, sambar, and blackbuck

[noble knot]

Texas?

[patent agate]

I mean yeah, the same people who stole dogs off people's porches, gassd them, and then sent a fruit basket is definitely trustworthy

Yeah Texas is nuts, I'm doing the apps for public land only and WHY CANT I JUST DO ONE APPLICATION AND COPY IT FOR THE OTHER ONES? THERE ALL TGE SAME FREAKING PRICE

[untold maple]

I thought you just needed a small game license to hunt exotic game in Texas

[noble knot]

Never been heard the hunting there is phenomenal

I want to bag a axis deer one day

[patent agate]

They changed to draw hunt only and I'm losing it. Gemsbok better taste freaking amazing after this paperwork

[untold maple]

I can confirm, they do

Unless Texan raised gemsbok taste differently from the African gemsbok

[patent agate]

Axis deer is pretty good, not my favorite but good. There are no bag limits for any of these hunts so if I can just get one ill buy several coolers.

BTW, Texas minimum caliber for gemsbok is .270 using a 150gr bullet minimum. Seems light.

[mortal rain]

I could go for some Axis deer fajitas right about now.

[patent agate]

We had a whole conversation about American food styles with African game meat here the other day lol

[untold maple]

I still drool over the idea of Texas style African BBQ🤤

[mortal rain]

Bush pig ribs

[patent agate]

Gemsbok brisket could absolutely be a thing

[untold maple]

Did you end up doing the Alabama style guinea fowl?

[patent agate]

Yes! It was freaking amazing my folks at 4 birds in one night lmao

I did 4 thinking we'd have some leftovers but nope.

[noble knot]

Are back straps aka tenderloin as universally good as on whitetail?

[patent agate]

Some are better, elk in particular

[noble knot]

Never have had any other types of venison aside from moose tongue weirdly enough

[patent agate]

Idk if you've tried it, but neck meat makes a great chili meat. Shanks are great for braising. But if you take a whole shoulder and slow smoke it with a really good rub it turns out incredible. Brine is your friend with shoulders/hams

[noble knot]

Have not tried that we usually fully break down our deer keeping only select cuts whole and some for burger or canning

[patent agate]

Try making a meatloaf with it, just don't coat it in ketchup. . .that's disgusting

[noble knot]

Have done it it’s great

Or venison tacos

[patent agate]

Heart tacos or fried livers are stellar too. Wish there was more bone marrow but that's why we have elk

[noble knot]

Don’t have elk anywhere near me I can hunt without dropping a small fortune to get so I’m stuck to whitetail all the whitetail also have had goop for a heart and liver by the time my 450 is done with em

[patent agate]

You make the job way too messy.

[noble knot]

Yup it’s not fun but the expansion on 450 I can’t help it. It just happen with double lung

[patent agate]

Maybe change bullet type? Try a slightly more solid bullet

[noble knot]

There is only one good deer 450 load at any of my local stores there is only stronger loads

[patent agate]

Yea, started reloading because I couldn't find the ammo I needed. There were maybe 2 places I could get ammo back in my home town and the only other place was a 30 min drive

[untold maple]

Nilgai are pretty cheap to hunt in south west Texas.

[dense folio]

Aint there some nilgai loose on some guys land?

[mortal rain]

Something like that.

[dense folio]

What a problem to have

[mortal rain]

Speaking of nilgai, would .450BM be enough for nilgai? Been thinking about the logistics of hunting one for awhile now.

[dense folio]

I have no clue 👍

[untold maple]

Yep. I used my guide’s gun for when I hunted a nilgai. He used a 6.5 cartridge with a 270 bullet. The bullet went completely through her(meat hunt)

They’re also nocturnal so you have to hunt at night(and get eaten by mosquitoes…my left hand was so swollen)

[mortal rain]

Good to know!

[somber fjord]

There are like 18000 in king ranch

[sick zodiac]

I bet that if Mammoths get reincarnated some rich guys gonna put them on a hunting ranch

[patent agate]

OX ranch has like 40 species. I wanted to book an impala hunt but dang, cannot afford that much

[final current]

I just saw the price for an Impala on Ox Ranch, and 10,000 Dollars for a medium sized antelope is a bit crazy

I wouldn’t be surprised if a Impala hunt in South Africa was not only cheaper but also allowed for a couple other species for the same price as an Ox Ranch Impala Hunt

Of course hunting in Africa comes with its own share of expenses

[patent agate]

It does, plains game ( 3 kinds) was only 4k

[untold maple]

OX ranch is crazy expensive. For a majority of the animals there, it’s cheaper to go to Africa and hunt them there

For those who want to reread

[patent agate]

I'm seriously thinking about ordering gemsbok horns to make a bow, they look so freaking cool

[elfin prism]

They should donate some of the money from the dlc to a conservation in Africa or something along those lines so it’s more acceptable. I think leaving the animals you can hunt on Vurhonga should only be on that map or some of them, and add greater kudu and leave lesser on Vurhonga. I really hope this happens.

[mighty rampart]

Not necessary, the species list is completely acceptable

[mortal rain]

Lesser kudu on vurhonga is ridiculous in the first place.

[patent agate]

Are there any places (aside from game reserves/ranches with introduced populations) where lesser kudu, gemsbok, and springboks inhabit the same area the way they do on vurhonga?

[dire prism]

im not even sure they can be regularly hunted there; iirc Ethiopia and Tanzania have most of the huntable lesser kudu

the wigeon make even less sense being 2,000 miles too far south given the farthest south they get is the Rwandan coast of Lake Victoria

[mortal rain]

Lesser Kudu don’t live in Sourh Africa in the slightest.

[dire prism]

oh wow so it's even more inaccurate than I thought

[mortal rain]

Yep

[patent agate]

Vurhonga is not the best representation of south Africa. They could still fix it though

[untold maple]

Gemsbok and lesser kudu share the same range, but springbok are nowhere near lesser kudu

Having lesser kudu in southern Africa is like saying moose should be on Mississippi acres

[final current]

Wrong, Gemsbok are a South African Species

There is the Fringe-eared and Besia Oryx of Eastern Africa that shares range with Lesser Kudu

[quaint arch]

mabey

[mighty rampart]

They said in a now ancient twitter post that Vurhonga is set in botswana

[dire prism]

bruh moment; its gotta be one of the most not-Botswana possible reserves

good lord

[mortal rain]

Mississippi is more Botswanan than vurhonga

[mighty rampart]

Fr

[patent agate]

Now, I've never been to Africa in any way but literally nothing about Vurhonga feels "Botswana"

[final current]

A severe lack of elephants contributes to that given that Botswana has a very large elephant population

[patent agate]

When I think of Botswana it's generally the delta that comes to mind. Vurhonga is just not

[final current]

A huge stretch of Botswana is also covered by the Kalahari Desert if I recall correctly

[patent agate]

True but I can't help but think of the okavango delta. I used to watch elephant and hippo hunts done there and always wanted to go

[patent agate]

I wanna ask this, hippo or elephant?

Personally I'm more interested in hippo hunting. I feel like you'd be slogging through a swamp of tall grass with the .470 listening with massive paranoia because you can't see anything past like 3 feet. I need that .375 more for buffalo and lion, eventually leopards, tigers too I guess

[dire prism]

hippos scare the hell outta me, gimme the elephant

[patent agate]

That's why I'm interested tho lol

[mighty rampart]

Guess the animal call. (Last 4 minutes)

[sick zodiac]

I can't hear anything

[dreamy viper]

Congolese spotted lion and melanistic lion. Potential GO?

[mighty rampart]

Volume max, at 3 seconds

[sick zodiac]

I'm going to sleep RN so I'll guess tomorrow

[dense folio]

Hyena?

It sounds so... herbivorous though

[patent agate]

I feel like that's a short call from a big cat. Can't tell if it's a lion or leopard tho

[glad loom]

I just imagine a Legendary Rhino charging at me in cotw, damn I want this map lol

[dire flume]

Idk why but I feel rhino would be 5

Herbivore maybe?

[mortal rain]

Definitely hyena

[dire prism]

huh?

[fleet forge]

Or Cheetah

[dire flume]

This guy said a legendary rhino but I think they will go to lvl 5 not 9 if they come

[dire prism]

there's a precedent for large-bodied herbivores going up to lvl 9 already; the plains bison, euro bison, cape buffalo, water bufflo, and wild yak all go to lvl 9 and they're all significantly smaller/have less impressive headgear than a rhinoceros

Rule of thumb seems to be that if its maximum weight is more than 8/10ths of a metric ton it goes to level 9

[dire flume]

Yea I see your point and rhinos are also dangerous so probably 9

[mortal rain]

9

[dire flume]

This is a species list with levels for an African map suggestion I made It should be up at the top if your looking for it

Guinea Fowl lvl 3
Baboon lvl 5
Bush Pig lvl 5
Springbok lvl 3

Medium Game class 4-7

Leopard lvl 9
Greater Kudu lvl 5
Gemsbok lvl 5
Eland lvl 5
Sable lvl 5
Black wildebeest lvl 6
Waterbuck lvl 5
Impala lvl 5
Zebra lvl 5
Spotted Hyena lvl 9
Cheetah lvl 9
Warthog lvl 5

Big game class 8-10

African Bush Elephant lvl 9
Black Rhinoceros lvl 9
Cape buffalo lvl 9
Lion lvl 9
African Giraffe lvl 9
Hippopotamus lvl 9

[mighty rampart]

We have a winner

[mystic token]

thats a weird looking cape buffalo

[untold maple]

The most exotic of African animals…cattle

[patent agate]

I mean, can't go wrong with burger

[warped grail]

@mighty rampart What region of Southern Africa do you mostly work in?

[mighty rampart]

Limpopo

[warped grail]

Thx

[mighty rampart]

Love these guys

[dense folio]

Yippee

[dusky oak]

Great idea but this map will be HUGE

[mortal rain]

?

[untold maple]

All the spiral horns are just the coolest

[mighty rampart]

It’s a rough species list…

[dusky oak]

Yes but u know what I mean

[main knot]

nyala are so cool

[patent agate]

I still say I'd gladly pay for a 2x size map for Africa 2.0

[dire flume]

What is realistically the most you would pay for Africa 2 mine would be about $50

[mortal rain]

Depends, on the rendition.

As much as it costs if it’s utmost perfection.

[patent agate]

I'd pay probably 20$ for a map 2x size or something similar to Emerald Coast in quality because I know I spent months on that map alone

[dire flume]

If it was 2x the size I don’t think money would stop me

[serene sparrow]

To satisfy my curiosity, would you even be interested in another Africa map if it did not include the big five? Do not get me wrong, the team is aware that this is a massive request from the community (the amount of replies in this thread only confirms it) but I'm wondering if hunting the big five is the main reason why everyone wants another map located in Africa?

[dire flume]

For me I would like another Africa map but it wouldn’t really feel complete without the big 5

[patent agate]

To be totally honest, YES.

I've said it a few times and I know a few people agreed that Africa could have 3 or 4 maps to itself. The sheer number of plains game would support that many. As far as the big 5, it would be ideal to have them on one reserve but I wouldn't mind having a reserve that just featured one or two. Say leopards and rhinos on a Savanah style map. I'd also love one map with hippos on it as well as animals like the Nile lechwe, waterbuck, and crocs. Africa just has too much potential to stop at just 2 maps

[willow mortar]

I feel that would be cool even if only a few of the big five were included. Africa in general is fun to hunt. An introduction of some new big game species and more and more antelope species would be awesome. So would the addition of Nile crocodiles

[mighty rampart]

Hi Patricia,

Very happy to hear from you!

From what I’ve seen on this thread, the general appeal comes from wanting to hunt the Classic African species

Elephants, giraffe, zebra leopard etc.
People I’m sure want to hunt the complete the big 5 on one map, although we already have two of them on Vurhonga.

Another point that I keep seeing brought up is that vurhonga didn’t quite do the place justice, mainly from lacking previously mentioned species as-well as requested species like greater kudu (don’t get me wrong though we all love Vurhonga)

I think the final motive that I see mention in here is the want for exotic locations, we’re used to most of the laps offering a variety of antelope species that are fairly similar, alongside many repeat species like bears and moose etc. sundapartan I’m sure has been very successful and I’ll wager that it’s down to the new species that are unlike anything added before (Tigers,Tah,Snow leopards etc)

In short
-wanting the Big 5 and other high profile African species to be added (particularly elephants)
-a wish to move into more exotic territory to shake up the similar species lists

Hope this feeds your curiosity!

I’m sure than others will also have a few diffrent points that they may wish to add

Best - Welly

(Sorry for typos I’m driving and it’s very dusty!)

[serene sparrow]

Tbh, I'd love to see a more tropical African location in the game myself so having the big five included would not be the main selling point for me but it's all about listening to your feedback and not my ramblings 😂

[dire flume]

Couldn’t have said it better we want the big 5 but we want Africa more than anything

[mighty rampart]

100%!, we all ramble on here too!

[dire flume]

At some point in the games lifespan there needs to be the big 5 but say do another Africa map with 2 more and then 1 last map with all of them combined

[pulsar oak]

Hi, I recently stumbled upon this thread and had lot of fun reading this. I have qiestion for you guys here. If we only could get one of the two African rhinos, which would you pick ? My personal choice is the black rhino, they are more aggresive and solitary, so they would be probably more exciting if implemented right.

[untold maple]

To answer the question of would we even want a second Africa map, I think the reasonable answer would be YES!
From the dense jungles of the Congo, to the Kalahari desert, the Bangweulu swamp, the Zambezi delta, the Ethiopian highlands, the entirety of South Africa, and the Masai Mara.(don’t even get me started on the species)

There is so much potential from Africa, it feels like EW has only scratched the surface of what y’all can make over there.

[untold maple]

I use to make mini polls about this, white rhino ended up winning, but it was close

[glad loom]

I believe we shouldn't only have Africa 2.0, but also Africa 3.0 and maybe even 4.0 one day, so yes, ABSOLUTELY I wouldn't mind one of them not having the Big 5, there's sooo many biomes and species in Africa

[pulsar oak]

Oh, I saw some of the polls but this one I missed.

[dense folio]

African jungles?🤨 😉

[glad loom]

Monkeeeeeyyysss!!

I want primate species in my lodges

[pulsar oak]

Old world monkeys > New world monkeys

[glad loom]

We live in a new world tho

Are gorillas more endangered than Tigers? I know some people wouldn't feel right hunting them, but also majority of people were feeling the same way about tigers last year, so idk

[dense folio]

i'd like to see a mission helping the Pygmy peoples of Africa to stop deforestation

[mighty rampart]

Wtf😂

Pygmy people?!?!

[pulsar oak]

Yeah, but in my humble opinion old world primates are more interesting both from zoological wiev and hypothetical hunting in game

[dense folio]

idk, I didn't name em

[pulsar oak]

I did a quick check and to my surprise both subspecies of western gorilla are criticaly endangered, and so is eastern lowland gorilla, but mountain gorilla is endangered according to IUCN. And here i thought mountain gorillas were the rarest of them all

[final current]

Tigers are not closely related to humans, Gorillas are

Mind you I wouldn’t mind shooting monkeys in the game but apes is where I personally draw the line

[glad loom]

Ok makes sense to me, tho personally, as a huge fan waiting for a game like GTA 6, wouldn't mind hunting gorillas in this game lol

But again, im totally fine if they don't add gorillas

[patent agate]

Once again, I humbly request water horses with less than friendly attitudes toward those of us not of their species

Hmm. . .

A mission called the Monster from the Black Lagoon. Very aggressive old hippo bull with massive tusks and a scarred hide. Reward is a rifle with engravings. Yes, please.

[mortal rain]

Without a doubt I would be interested.

[mortal rain]

The great return to good missions

“Quick, grab the rifle and run down to the waterfront because a fatal hippo attack occurred, a man drinking water was the victim. Take the hippo before more are hurt”

[patent agate]

Smashed canoes and shredded clothes for evidence

[dense folio]

Gotta have something about a Baden in there too

[mortal rain]

And then after the last piece of evidence is photographed/collected it bursts out of the water, arises a massive bull

[patent agate]

Maybe Baden wounded it ad caused the problem

[mortal rain]

I’d like to see the badens be connected to the anti poaching side mission line previously mentioned by Wellington which could go one step further and connect it to the main missions (wounded angry hippo)

[untold maple]

Or better yet, an angry bull elephant during the rut. It’s charging at everything it sees

[patent agate]

Nothing wrong with several Rogue missions and unique animals

[mortal rain]

I picture Africa 2.0 having atleast 2 mission animals (rare or diamond potential atleast)

[untold maple]

And unique like the wolves on coutro or the fordland moose on te awaroa

[mortal rain]

I don’t really care if they are unique or not tbh, just want some cool missions after years of having none.

[patent agate]

An overarching mission leading to a Maneater leopard would be fun, takes six or seven investigations to figure out what's going on

[untold maple]

Art by Brian Jarvi
Y’all should check him out, there’s a lot more that I didn’t show

[finite iris]

Wait there’s shoebills in Africa????!!!!!

[mortal rain]

Yeah… that’s where they are from…

[finite iris]

As you can tell I’m not very educated in African wild life

[dense compass]

I wouldn't skip buying it, but I'd be really disappointed. The hype is stronger than ever now that EW released tigers and seems to be loosening up a bit.

[dawn dew]

I could easily imagine enough potential for five maps, that continent is rich in biome diversity.

[old saffron]

I’d still be interested in a new Africa map without the big 5 100%. There’s still so much you guys could do without them. That said though, I still really want the big 5, I wouldn’t mind if they’re spread across multiple Africa maps, since I think Africa absolutely deserves more then two maps plus I think that’d allow it to feel more natural. Trying to get all 5 of the big 5 (or 6) on 1 map along with some of the other big requested animals would make it feel a bit forced potentially. I could see 1-2 each map.

Africa just has a lot of wildlife that’s so vastly different then what we have on a lot of our current maps (and a lot of them are just very iconic) that makes it really appealing to me. Big 5 or no. But defineitly would love to see big 5!

[dusky oak]

We have Pa"trick"cja's attention 🤙 as for the big 5 we should have Africa regardless but the big 5 will add more quality to the map and surely drive more sales

[gilded meteor]

The fact that yall are keeping this up is amazing I was here since conception this is great 1279 upvotes

[untold maple]

There’s a lot of Africa to talk about

[gilded meteor]

I know right! Africa is so cool. I hope ultimate hunting is good because they got the line up right. We just need the ultimate hunting Africa in cotw

[frail schooner]

idk if it was discussed here already, but speaking of The Big Five, I'd love to see the Cape Buffalo get a TLC like the Water Buffalo recieved :3

[patent agate]

Can I post a mild gripe about outposts?

If you stop and look at the position of outposts on vurhonga it's hard not to see that most of them are in terrible spots. None of them have water tanks, cover from storms, or decently flat terrain. I wouldn't mind less outposts if they were put in places where ot made sense to place a camp. (I.E. NOT A CLIFF)

[mystic token]

honestly that entire gigantic mountain in my opinion is a waste of space, that could've been a completely flat savannah we all wanted and it would add extra space for a 1 or 2 more species in the map, instead it's just completely useless, takes up space and also you can't really hunt on it at all, and it leaves those steep small parts at the map border which are also a nightmare to hunt

[serene sparrow]

You always have my attention 😄 Sometimes I just need to ask a few extra questions to get a better idea of what you want to see in the game

[sick zodiac]

Please give us this amazing map as soon as the team can 🥺 this is the most heavenly idea to be posted. Same thing with a lot of other ideas. I'm feeling good times for EW and us players over the next few years

[glad loom]

We want this! 😁

[serene sparrow]

You're all ready with the mocap designs

[gilded meteor]

I would 💯 be interested in another Africa map without the big 5! There is so many animals in Africa that aren’t controversial but are so cool.

Monkeys Nyala, eland, greater kudu. Different wildebeests, impala, zebra giraffes hippos crocs, I mean there is so much to do in Africa not just the big 5. I think this is a no brainer for the next map it would be so cool big 5 or not.

[gilded meteor]

That’s something I would dream about😍

[mighty rampart]

Again, nothing controversial about any of these species when we literally have snow leopards and tigers in game- and on top of that unlike those species all the remaining big 5 can be legally hunted.

Let’s stop using this phrase, it’s not accurate or relevant

[gilded meteor]

Agreed she just said a map without the big 5 bad word choice.

[untold maple]

Lion and Cape buffalo could definitely use some TLC

[fleet forge]

What about Cheetah

[fleet forge]

As long as it has both Leopards and Cheetahs Together, I would be happy

[gilded meteor]

Oooo I forgot about cheetah. We need 2 or 3 more Africa maps we will never have everything

[strange viper]

✅

[serene sparrow]

Honestly, seeing new map concepts always makes me very happy

[gilded meteor]

It’s time to make a mod😭 we need whoever made that on the dev team that’s incredible.

[strange viper]

Original map concept was made by @mystic token, but I did the version above by myself

this is the original:

[gilded meteor]

Wow that’s cool. Great teamwork! That polish just makes it look so good.

[glad loom]

Yea, if EW don't make Africa 2.0, we're gonna do it ourselves 💀😂

[gilded meteor]

Mod mod mod😭

I’m genuinely so excited for the possibility of this happening I really want ew to make Africa 2.0

[mystic token]

words cannot describe the respect I have for you coz you always mention I made the original concept

[gilded meteor]

Hey w concept art man it is beautiful

[strange viper]

Keeping it fair is important, respect between people is generally lacking lately (on the internet as a whole)

[patent agate]

We just need more Africa in general. 2 or 3 more maps would hurt no one's feelings. A couple of gear packs with clothes and guns would be really cool, classic stuff I mean

[gilded meteor]

I’ve been saying that for so long and I just said it today lol

[patent agate]

We need a Vurhonga fix pack if not Africa 2.0 next

[gilded meteor]

There is really nothing they can do to vurhunga

I honestly want greater kudu. I want a lodge full of them get a super rare or 2

[patent agate]

No they could do a lot, particularly tlc for the animals, taking truracs off springboks, and putting a new species or two would go a long way to fixing some issues

[dense folio]

If there are greater kudu and lesser kudu, are there medium kudu?

[gilded meteor]

😂 I mean if you find a small enough greater kudu

[gilded meteor]

Yeah but I don’t see that happening. If anything they would tlc Layton and hirsh animals because those are free maps

[patent agate]

I'd love to see a full on poll of most-least favorite maps. I doubt vurhonga would rank high

[untold maple]

Yeah, east cape kudu(their still pretty big, but noticeably smaller than kudu from the rest of southern/Eastern Africa)

[gilded meteor]

Vurhunga and medved are my 2 favorite old maps.

[patent agate]

My least favorite map is vurhonga, used to be my favorite. My current all time favorite without question is Emerald Coast.

EC is flawless for my favorite way to hunt so I spent 9 or maybe 10 months on it alone

[final current]

Vurhonga is also my least favourite map, unfortunately its the only African map

[patent agate]

See I used to absolutely love Vurhonga for bow hunting. The Kudu in the fever tree forests were absolutely amazing for long bow hunting but then ducks were added and that's the only freaking animal I hear. Drives me insane

[sinful lintel]

Dam it’s Africa we already have Africa it’s very genaric all you wanna do is add animals and I bet they don’t add all those animals bc you can’t hunt them “JUST GIVING FEED BACK”

[mighty rampart]

Cheers for the incredibly mature ( and even more well thought through ) response, I would expect nothing less 🙂 and

also yeah it’s clearly very generic and boring, hence why it has the most upvotes out of all the other map suggestions here…

You can also hunt all of these species legally 😉

[torn belfry]

All these animals Can be hunted, you have make research and you see it

[pulsar oak]

We have multiple maps set in Europe and North America, and each of them is unique in some way. Africa has incedible biodiversity and could be made into multiple. Africa is not just grassland with few baobabs and bushes.

[sick zodiac]

Are you serious? These are most commonly hunted species in southern Africa. This idea was created to 'mend' vurhongna. Any hunter dreams of hunting beasts like these. They are not illegal

[sick zodiac]

You are actually making me burst with laughter

I'm thinking with this we could get a cape buffalo remodel with truhorns
https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1260924752126672990
This is an idea

[gilded meteor]

This will be the guy to say he wants another USA map.

[pulsar oak]

Yeah, and the species list would be mostly repeats from old maps.

[gilded meteor]

That’s my point. They complain about Africa which is probably the coolest huntable region in the world. It makes no sense to me. One of my favorite quotes you can’t fix stupid. I’m not trying to be mean but that’s just a down right crazy take

[pulsar oak]

I think lot of people just want to have their state represented in game, not seeing that it's not that exciting for most people. I get that, I would love to have my country in COTW, but because I live in Europe near Germany, it would be Hirschfelden with two or three new animals. And that would be pretty lame map if you ignore the IRL connection only few players would have.

[torn belfry]

each country has its own species, we have to keep in mind

[pulsar oak]

I am not trying to disrespect any country, or anybody who has different ideas about next map, but I wouldn't like to see new map where most species are just repeats.

[mighty rampart]

Love the “standing ovation” he got!

[mighty rampart]

He’s not actually complaining about africa, he’s just a. Bit Pi$$ed off that I said that another American map would be dull

[haughty nimbus]

I actually agree with him. I don't agree with his delivery by no means. Vurhonga is my least favorite map because of the biomes. Hopefully if they ever do another Africa map they can have better biomes. To be fair to him I have seen Wellington say some pretty crappy stuff about USA maps that had new species.

[dense folio]

Chuck, my guy, 1. pronouns my g, you gotta change that 2. don't be salty my guy 3. do a lil research, Africa is awesome

[mighty rampart]

Hi chap;
I’ve been critical but with good reason…

My main gripe about new American species it that they’re (in my opinion) lacklustre ( the exception being Canadian arctic which I would love to see) you can see my comments and I stand by them

Squirrels are not exactly at the top of my list, nor are a few ducks and badgers. But while I’m sure my future American map would be high quality, it think with 5 maps already set in the states, we should really look elsewhere are kind the world

Regardless I’m glad you and I are able to contribute cooperatively to suggestions

[gilded meteor]

Well it’s true 😂

[haughty nimbus]

I totally get your gripe about most USA maps. But there are some areas in the USA that could still contribute to the game.

It looks like you guys will be happy soon. EW is almost guaranteed to be working on another Africa map with the questions they was asking about the big 5. I'm truthfully happy to see you guys getting a map you will enjoy. EW just please make the biomes better than Vurhonga

[gilded meteor]

Agreed I think Africa has so much to offer we need more than what they did for vuhunga but keep in mind that was in 2018 look at what they did for sundarpatan

[mighty rampart]

Amen, let’s hope that Africa 2 blows everything before out the park.

And 100% bru, America has lots to offer, but with only 1 reserve per year now, and limited life left in the game. I’d like to see more diverse locations from other continents

[gilded meteor]

That’s the problem as an American 1 reserve a year would suck to get a mediocre American map. I would only accept an Arctic Canada map

[dense folio]

it would be cool to see a Californian(disgusting, i know) Redwood forest map

[haughty nimbus]

I'm still not sold on 1 per year yet. Jaxy won't commit to it being only one per year in the streams. We may be surprised this December.

[gilded meteor]

So what ultimate hunting is adding? That would add nothing to the game

[gilded meteor]

Who knows maybe we get an arctic Canada map this winter. I’m convinced we won’t get Africa in 6 months but they could probably pull off a Canada map

[dense folio]

it'd add a beautiful location and a mission line surrounding the conservation of an awesome forest

[mighty rampart]

I hope so too!

[dense folio]

honestly, a lot of US states would make awesome maps and even bring in some new species. Louisiana has its bayous, forests, and even man-made crawfish ponds. It could bring in "swamp-rats" I forgot the real name, but it's a large rodent that lives in swamps
It's just, some states may be too similar to others to have all 50 states have their own map

[gilded meteor]

Again there are so many better places man. I get that’s what you like but we could go so maybe different places that aren’t the USA I don’t even mean Africa even tho that’s a huge untapped resource

[gilded meteor]

Yeah I think devs coming in and asking about Africa is a great sign. My guess is it’s either the next map or the map after. I think if we have one in between it could be an Arctic map because that has a lot of backing from the community

[untold maple]

Muskrat

[glad loom]

My guess is they are planning to make Africa very soon because it is asked so much, but they are going to do it without the class 10 species on the map due to us not having (and requesting, apperantly) new big lodge for those animals to put .... hence why they are asking on this chat if we'd be fine with Africa 2.0 without the class 10 species

Hopefully we'll still get animals such as leopards or cheetahs, hyenas, zebras, greater kudus and etc.

[gilded meteor]

Agreed I think they could do it with everything else in the map. That was my thoughts on that also. I’d be completely fine with that. It would stink a bit not to get elephants rhinos and giraffes but is that the hill we want to die on ig😂. The line up for an Africa map would be crazy!

Maybe they already are making it and are getting to animal development not just concepts 🤷

[glad loom]

I know the June 2025 map is not going to be this for sure, because Arshak said on their stream that Africa is not on their road map until the end of 2025, so my guess the June 2026 makes sense for us to get some sort of Africa map

June 2025 my guess is one of these three:
https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1070045518002147458
https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1207357430963507281
https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1110817492277923850

[mighty rampart]

Agree to an extent but remeber that roadmaps have an do change,

As for lodges, let’s not think they’re a limiting factor, things like head mounts are perfectly possible for the species in the existing lodges, align with the safari lodge easily having space for giraffe and elephants

Jaxi has said himself that they could absolutely do elephants in the game on streams

[glad loom]

Elephants are three, four times bigger than a Moose, and Moose standing on the XXL platform in Saseka takes up the whole thing ... idk

We need a museum lodge dlc first ...
The layout can be like the Museum of Natural History in New York

[mighty rampart]

Elephants can easily fit on the large plinths, roof space is more than enough in sasika and in the main hallway of the American lodge.

I’m sure that if lodges were a limitation that these species would only be placeable on those stand that could fit them.

[untold maple]

It would be crazy not to add elephants,rhinos hippos and giraffes to Africa 2

[glad loom]

Not the height, but the length will extend the boarders of the stand I think

[mighty rampart]

100%

But let’s just see, the devs have said they can do them, so keep your fingers crossed and keep making noise

[gilded meteor]

Bro they said that last year and they said they could change the roadmap. This has almost 1300 upvotes and they said they are a community driven dev team this is clearly what we want

[glad loom]

Also I want a pose in my lodge of a diamond elephant standing in it's back legs, like that Nilgai pose in the lodge

[mighty rampart]

The heads of the elephants might but overhang should be fine.

[gilded meteor]

Africa 3.0💀

[glad loom]

Give me Elephant vs Scrub Hare multimount NOW!!!!!!!!!!

[gilded meteor]

I could see this next map being Africa man. I just don’t know why they wouldn’t I think it would sell like crazy

[glad loom]

Another reason why I want a new lodge before the arrival of the Elephants is because I want them to give Elephants a Great One straight away like the tahr, and I want them to be 1.5x bigger!!!

[mighty rampart]

I understand that!, but with limited dev time left I just want to see them asap!

[glad loom]

We gotta let them cook now 🍳

[gilded meteor]

Here’s the problem look at those maps you linked and how many upvotes they have compared to this one it’s literally doubt triple and even more times than they are. All those maps combined don’t have the upvotes of this one want nvm that’s a stretch

[glad loom]

Yea, and I was the first one to react with a to this post, I want this over anything

[untold maple]

They could easily have several more African maps
Another southern African map(Namibia,south Africa, Zimbabwe), an East African map(Tanzania, Ethiopia, Uganda), and a Western African map(Cameroon)

[gilded meteor]

I’m serious I could see this being the next map. Mostly ultimate hunting is coming out next year so it would be smart for them to get ahead of this Africa map before ultimate hunting either flops or is a banger

[glad loom]

Now this, Arctic and Amazon are my top 3 dreams, like once was Australia, South Asia and Arctic

[haughty nimbus]

In all fairness those suggestions haven't spammed VCs or DMs to my knowledge either. I'm not saying Africa isn't wanted because it 1000 percent is but votes can't really be an argument at this point.

[glad loom]

Whatever map is coming out next, they already started in June of this year, so if their decision wasn't to change the roadmap to Africa then, it's not gonna change now

[gilded meteor]

VC or dms? They are practically dead with no new content. This is always active. The Arctic map “my most wanted behind Africa” is literally people saying bump to get more upvotes. There is always new ideas in this thread

I’m going to be honest I wouldn’t be mad if we got an Arctic map but other than that I think my love for this game will disappear if I have to wait 6 months for a new map then it not be Africa then probably another year for Africa thats crazy to think about. This game is so good but that is so long to not get probably the most requested thing in cotw history

[haughty nimbus]

Don't worry Africa is coming at some point.

[gilded meteor]

@mighty rampart if they decide not to do the big animals in Africa what is your list for wants in an Africa 2.0

[glad loom]

I have a gut feeling the June 2025 map is not Africa 😔😔 but I so want to be wrong

[gilded meteor]

Yeah I kinda agree. I’m scared😭

[noble knot]

Wait no way we have input from ew_patrycja (I copied the name over because I didn’t know how to spell it right) now I was didn’t look here for like 3 days and I missed important input

[dire prism]

American education system moment; I bet you're one of those who thinks the whole continent is a country 🙄

[dire prism]

As an American I agree about many of the US map's species being lackluster.

Our main draw is mountain game (like goats and sheep), upland fowl, and waterfowl. We have hardly any upland fowl, lackluster/insufficient waterfowl, and the goats and sheep look wonky/have unrealistic horns.

I'd honestly love something like a North American version of Revontuli where we have some river bottom woodlands with corn fields in like, Nebraska, along with a mix of short and long grass prairie. Then just make that map almost entirely waterfowl and upland fowl with a couple small/midsized terrestrial animals to round it out (and whitetail since they're obligatory at this point).

[noble knot]

Be like me and be a fool civilly and be informed by people who actually know about it and learn

(I meant to reply to the guy being rude not you Zach)

[mighty rampart]

This sounds good because it has that new variety of game that we need!

As for comments about “spamming” VC and DMs I don’t know what to say.

I brought It up a lot on VC plenty with guys I played with back in the first 2 months of our suggestions lifetime. I’ve been in SA since April ( we were around 340 votes) and not been in a vc since the so the growth has been entirely “organic” but telling people about it in VC is perfectly fine?

It’s a null point, people will only upvote this if they actual want to… (no one has a gun to anyone’s head!)

[dire prism]

As a Coloradan im especially ticked off by SRP

Its only bird is turkeys.....

we have more than 40 species of huntable fowl in the state

and we got one

no sandhill cranes, no ptarmigan, no partridge, no quail (please for the love of God backfill bobwhites onto SRP, they're native to the state), no ducks or geese at all

[noble knot]

There is a lot of water on Srp for fowl too it’s a shame

Tbh I kinda want a Michigan map to be like rev we got canvas back wood duck red head golden eye and sand hill cranes swans and loons but they may be a stretch

[gilded meteor]

Someone from Minnesota. We don’t need that in cotw if anything they should add birds to older maps that’s less challenging

[noble knot]

True agreed

[dire prism]

add nine more birds to SRP

just backfill pheasants and bobwhites onto it along with the species of duck and geese that range thru the central flyway

IMO though we could also have a dedicated US fowl map thats an equivalent to Rev like I suggested

[gilded meteor]

I think Layton should have pheasants and wolves but whatever turkey was good enough

Elk on Yukon needs to happen I feel like that and a sheep is what that map is missing

[mighty rampart]

Let’s get back to Afri-talk!

[dire prism]

give nyala

me want more antelope

[noble knot]

Yah for sure sorry

I was wondering and I didn’t jump to the conversation discussion on elephant rares
Would it be like albino Red and melanististic or something

[mighty rampart]

I love their orange socks

[manic vigil]

Carcharodontosaurus Special Ancient One on Africa 2.0 when-

jokes aside even If i ever rarely talk in this thread I have so many ideas for Africa 2.0 map rosters lol

[mighty rampart]

Please share them!

[manic vigil]

well, i don't actually have them typed out or written down lol. i need to get to doing that lol

i would like to see a lot of antelope species though, and i mean a LOT. elephants and nile crocs too

not a roster idea but new lion ai similar to that to the tigers would be really nice to see

being the paleontology nerd i am a mission centered around Permian Africa fossils would be neat to see too. we really haven't had anything like that since the Mammoth tusk and Cave Lion tooth on MedVed

[manic vigil]

on the topic of elephants and nile crocs, super-tusker diamond (or great ones) elephants and absolutely massive and bulky diamond nile crocs are something i'd really love to see. might not hunt the elephants myself tho because i really love elephants and would feel bad even tho it's a game 🤣

as for antelope, get me gazelles, Greater Kudu, eland, Black Wildebeest, (and many more) and ofc some returning species like Springbok and Blue Wildebeest

[manic vigil]

well, this or something from the Neogene or Pleistocene (Neogene and Pleistocene might honestly be better of a choice now thinking about it lol)

[untold maple]

https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1278571704838520904 (not advertising, just easier to show this for an elephant great one)

[patent agate]

Much as I love the us and wish we had more seasons represented for the US maps. Africa just has straight up more potential for really new and unique animals. I'd love a Montana map that was pretty much srp winter with wolves and moose but o be totally honest I'd much rather have a scrub forest and swamp map with antelope and hippos

[untold maple]

Show your Dream safari gun
Mine is the double barrel bolt action rifle

[mortal rain]

Honestly, something as simple as a beautifully engraved o/u or sxs rifle would be good enough for me, preferably based on this incredible piece.

[gilded meteor]

Where do I buy. I would love a cosmetic pack like that! Someone need to make a feedback where the metal in the game has animal murals. Correction new cosmetic pack where you can manually change that

[mortal rain]

It’s a 1 of 1 lol, presumably with a lot of bartering

[gilded meteor]

Yeah that makes sense that is the most bad a$$ gun engraving I’ve seen.

[untold maple]

https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1081883505186832524 should definitely check this out

[gilded meteor]

That’s awesome!

[patent agate]

I'm stuck on a .318 WR

[mighty rampart]

Looks super cool

[patent agate]

Simple but flawless

[dire prism]

Im personally partial to weatherbies, specifically this .416 that my uncle owns

[mighty rampart]

Beautiful rifle

[patent agate]

.425 WR would also be an incredible rifle to hunt with, I have to admit that I love this things design.

I'd take this model without the engraving or fancy wood stock tbh. It's unique and extremely interesting to me and I'd pair it with a W.M. Malcolm type of scope. Kind of rifle I'd happily carry for a elk/mule deer hunt just as well as through a fever tree forest

[mighty rampart]

.375 from one of the rhinos I cut up today

[untold maple]

From a poacher or a hunter who seriously screwed up. Or was it a legal and successful hunt and you just helped with the butchering

[dusky oak]

Poachers are bad… they Literally take there horn and that’s it?! Like tf

[mighty rampart]

Poacher

[untold maple]

Dang it…I was hoping it was the third option
Darn poachers

[patent agate]

I sort of understand that they might think they have no other choice but it's still ridiculous and wasteful. Rhino horns, shark fins, and elephant tusks are not medically significant or particularly valuable and billions of people go through life just fine without even thinking about them but there's still some idiots who will pay a fortune for nothing but a feeling of being fancy because they have something rare essentially.

Humans really are the stupid primates

[mighty rampart]

It’s the Chinese

[patent agate]

I know their traditional medicine calls for it but they aren't the only ones. Some folks here in the US believe in it too and the ivory thing is a global symbol of wealth

[mystic token]

I think we can all agree that since the .375 is coming by the end of this year, a bolt action .416 should be the map exclusive rifle for this map

[dusky oak]

Why is that slug in pristine condition?

[main knot]

These look sweet

[dire prism]

epic!!!

[patent agate]

The spotted one is absolutely gorgeous I'd love to see them

[patent agate]

Common loot

VS

Legendary loot

[gilded meteor]

I want greater kudu. I was watching a stream from a month ago where jaxy said since we already have an Africa map there is other places they need to go. That just confused me why the devs would take that approach

[mighty rampart]

The horns on those guys are amazing

[mortal rain]

Never gets old.

[patent agate]

Considering all the attention this post has gotten and the interest from the devs I think attitudes are changing and they'll start to work on something if they haven't already started

[gilded meteor]

Yeah but that stream was a month ago. It just seems weird they would’ve started a map already

[gilded meteor]

I love seeing the Africa exhibit and all the taxidermy at cabelas! One of my favorite places to be man

[mighty rampart]

Back in the uk for a bit!, won’t be giving you guys Awsome updates as much

[untold maple]

How does the uk feel after all that time in South Africa? Depressing?

[mighty rampart]

Cold!

[untold maple]

Your no longer in short shorts country now

[fading saddle]

amazing