AFRICA BIG FIVE (Africa 2.0 + Class 10 Weapons) 🇿🇼🇿🇦

[patent agate]

Pet the kitty

With a .416

Posted the thing

#1259939152196010004

Idk if I covered everything but I'm not playing so I can't check the list. Might try to do a caliber version later

5000th comment in this thread so

EW PLEASE GIVE US A .375 OR A .416 SOON
That is all

[glad loom]

5000th comment 👆👆

[patent agate]

Are you kidding?! Why wasn't it something about Africa and not my stupid idea?

[untold maple]

Massive mane on that guy

[untold maple]

Now that snow leopards are a thing. What do we think about Hirola (aka, hunters heartabeest)

Is it a potential animal for the game?

[patent agate]

Honestly didn't know this thing existed but I'm all for it. Realistically speaking, rare animals being brought into this game would get a flood of interest and might even make a small difference in their conservation

[untold maple]

Some context for you

They used to have a bigger home range but now they exist only in a small herd of around 500 in Somalia.

[patent agate]

I'll have to do some reading then, seems like a very interesting animal

[untold maple]

Please do. And spread the word of this animal

[patent agate]

Here's something I found last night, .375 JDJ.

It's a powerful round, has a really solid reputation for big game but the thing is, it's usually a single shot pistol. I was wondering, if you guys think that would be okay okay would you rather have it in a rifle? Personally, I'd love more single shot weapons. Especially a high wall or rolling block style rifle but pistols are awesome too

[mortal rain]

Each shot ticks -5 health

[patent agate]

Someone's offered me one if I wanted to by it, I'm not sure but also extremely interested

[untold maple]

It depends on how much the guy is asking for

[patent agate]

My .480 ruger and the ammo

[untold maple]

Tempting, that’s for sure

[patent agate]

My .480 is the old model, I got it from a family friend when I was like 16

This is closer to what he's got, nothing too special in looks

Oh dang

[untold maple]

How much do you like your 480?

[undone snow]

This MUST happen, although if I'm going to be honest, I hope it's the last map they ever release. If done right Africa 2.0 deserves to be CotW's grand finale so to speak

[patent agate]

There's no way 2 maps are enough to showcase how amazing Africa really is

[untold maple]

They could easily make 3 more African maps

[patent agate]

I like it, I also like my wrist. But he told me he wouldn't trade for anything else

[mystic token]

.50 cal bolt action single shot handgun (class 1-9)

[untold maple]

It’s completely your call

After some research it seems like no one is really selling the 375jdj, so it might make for a good investment in a long term. But it depends on you and your feelings towards the 480

Once again, it’s completely your call

[undone snow]

True, but I'm talking about more along the lines of a map that would give us a lot of these animals. As exciting as a Congo map for example would be, i doubt it would have the same amount of buzz as Zimbabwae.

[patent agate]

No it would pretty much be a handload only weapon and there not really a commercial cartridge. My .480 is great but pretty much in the same boat. The guy is a collector so I know it's been rarely used, I might take awhile to decide

[untold maple]

Take your time, no need to jump at it

[patent agate]

We have cape buffalo and lions on one map already, the next could be rhino and leopard with plains game making up the majority of animals. Then a map with elephant and hippos focused on wetlands. They have plenty of options and no rule demanding that the big five be concentrated on a single map.

Honestly, they could make a fourth map twice the size of all the others with all the big five as the last map for the game. I'd be more than willing to pay for it

[untold maple]

Not to mention the untapped potential in Cameroon, Ethiopia,Zambia, Namibia, and Tanzania

EW has been sleeping on Africa for far too long now

[patent agate]

They've go that weird

"Africa 2 must be the end of the game" mentality

[untold maple]

I think there just allergic to money and only now have considered getting a resistance

[patent agate]

If it's down to one map a year then fine, as long as it's a good map I'm fine paying a little more for it, if there are gonna be less weapon packs, fine

As long as it's good then I'm fine with whatever they want to try.

Just to be totally honest, sundarpatan didn't hit for me. The animals ans environment are really cool and all but there's too many buildings, it doesn't feel like the wilderness enough

[untold maple]

Art by Alan M Hunt

[mighty rampart]

He captures that leopard perfectly

[manic vigil]

Haven’t spoken much in this forum, but yeah Africa has a LOT of potential for COTW (and hunting games in general)

I’m happy that Ultimate Hunting is mostly going all-out with their Africa map though

Honestly need to pitch in my own ideas in this forum. Been seeing the things yall have been posting here and it’s all really great ideas

[untold maple]

Deep in the thick stuff. Most artists paint leopard on a tree looking over a hill, basking in the light…but he has the leopard in the thick bush

That’s what I like about it

[untold maple]

Do it, go for it

[spare nexus]

These pics are super dope fellas.

[patent agate]

Do you know the tracks? Looks like a large antelope

[tranquil phoenix]

In New Mexico?

[sick zodiac]

Yeah they live there. Introduced

[tranquil phoenix]

I knew that I've looked at hunts before I just didn't know if he meant someplace else where there may be Gemsbok that I wasn't aware of

[patent agate]

Yeah,technically could go to the Kerr WMA in Texas but they have way more restrictions on the animals and methods

[untold maple]

If I remember right, white sands gemsbok are now a subspecies of gemsbok

[untold maple]

Feel like doing some taxidermy related polls

For Greater Kudu
Shoulder mount(👍) or Full body mount(👆)

[manic vigil]

full body

also only 150 likes til 1000

[mortal rain]

I want shoulder, but specifically because I want pedestal mounts

[untold maple]

You could say that again

[patent agate]

Lodges need a big update before more Africa maps come out, they have to look incredible for these things

[mighty rampart]

I think sasika already looks fine for Africa 2

[patent agate]

It feels like a resort more than a lodge tho

[tranquil phoenix]

I want customizable lodges! 🇿🇼🇿🇲🇿🇦🇲🇿🇳🇦 give me Africa 2.0!!! 🐘 🦁 🐆 🐃 🐊

[untold maple]

Saseka could use some rearranging when elephant’s are a thing. But spring Creek definitely needs a TLC

[tranquil phoenix]

TLC?

[zenith spire]

A tlc is like a remake

[patent agate]

Technical meaning is tender love and care, just tlc is easier

[mighty rampart]

Few big spots for elephants in sasika, might just be that you can only put them on specific places

[mortal rain]

Yeah, you shouldn’t have a lodge full of elephants, limited mounting options helps.

[untold maple]

Which makes sense

A good spot would be the wall above that room at the end. If they filled it up, that would be good

So where it says the hunter call of the wild, that’s the spot

[mighty rampart]

Yeah plenty of space, lucky the roof is sasika is very high

[untold maple]

I love how spacious it is compared to spring creek.

Saseka perfect for when there’s giraffes

[mighty rampart]

Exactly! 🦒

[untold maple]

Spring creek feels so cramped compared. You can barely move around the trophies, the ceiling is too close to the floor. The only spacious part about spring creek is the main entrance…and even then

Ethiopian Highlands(👍) or The Zambezi(👆)

[mortal rain]

It’s a close call for me, but overall The Zambezi has my favorite species.

[patent agate]

No gun displays either

[untold maple]

Nor XXL platforms

[next kindle]

Hello what about this animals: Wild dogs
Cheetahs
Golden Jackals
Gazelle
Caracal
Servals

[mighty rampart]

All doable

At least now that EW has finally realised that no one gives a kak about being able to shoot some endangered species. It’s as if it’s a computer game and not real life (shocking revaluation to some)

[next kindle]

We want to shoot pixelated animal😋

[patent agate]

I gotta say this,

African leopards should be just as rare on their map as snow leopards but I want them to be aggressive if you get close

[fiery fossil]

They are very different subspecies, one is more common in visual appearance than the other. I think they should be limited like you said but more similar to tigers with 16 instead of 8-9 with snow leopards.

[mortal rain]

You are lucky to even spot one on a hunt (excluding canned hunts❌).

[untold maple]

I like the idea of leopard being illusive like snow leopard, but with numbers like tigers.

[patent agate]

Yes, I know they are different. I said nothing about numbers either. They should still be extremely difficult to hunt and hard to come across. I don't want it to be a great one and all that mess.

I want them to be just as challenging as snow leopards, nothing more or less

[fiery fossil]

They should be challenging but they are more common than snow leopards they also have a bigger range for example one lives in mountains/cliffs the other has a whole Savannah plains. They still should be elusive which I agree with you.

It would be really cool if there feed zones were in the tree when you went looking for them idk how that would be implemented.

[mighty rampart]

Yeah I’d love to see tree based feed zones

[untold maple]

Sitting in a blind looking at the the trees, and then this happens

EW…. please give leopard tree mechanics, we beg you

[sick zodiac]

oooo a carcass of an impala in a tree would be awesome

[mighty rampart]

Make this happen we beg of you!

[patent agate]

Would hangable baits be too much of an ask do you think? I wouldn't mind having the option to set one up near a feed zone and hunting from a blind

[mighty rampart]

Not sure, would depend on if the devs could model it well, we have tree stands already so the trees have been tampered with in the past, anything is possible

[patent agate]

It'd be a really interesting way to go about it, and they already have meat piles as the predator feed zones

[mighty rampart]

I think. They could do it, but they would probably have it be hard set for all maps.

Either way a few morons on this discord will complain about things being “too easy, too grid able”

[patent agate]

Wouldn't it be like any other call or scent? It'd be one location not map wide

[mighty rampart]

Maybe but I don’t know how their programming with trees works, I guess that only certain trees can support tree stands so the same

[patent agate]

Yeah, I think that's reasonable tho, you'd have to be really selective about the tree irl so why not in game? I'd also like if it had a relatively low attraction chance, just to show how difficult leopards would be

[mighty rampart]

I think that they don’t need to reduce the numbers of any animals, just make some more skittish than others.

I can tell you irl For every leopard you see, 20 more have seen you

[patent agate]

How about numbers? How many would you want to see on the map?

[mighty rampart]

I don’t want to throw out a number, as I have no idea how large the map would be, and also we have no idea what the foliage density would look like.

However 12 seems like a good number to me

[patent agate]

I was thinking about that, if we have no idea how the map looks we can really pin down a number but 10 to 14 sounds good

[orchid fern]

Ok I know this will never happen but what if the rifle or weapon is a barret 50 cal for class 9 to 10

[mortal rain]

.50BMG isn’t a good hunting caliber. I’d rather they work on literally anything else other than figuring out how to balance .50BMG because it doesn’t kill large quadrapedal mammals very well.

[orchid fern]

That’s why I knew it would never happen

[mighty rampart]

No don’t be silly

[patent agate]

Thoughts on a single shot class 9 only? Allows scopes but you only get one shot and the recoil is massive.

.458 Lott?

[untold maple]

Perfection

[mortal rain]

Wouldn’t mind it, although .458 Lott would preferably be 8-10 because of its popularity among Alaskan guides (Imo)

[untold maple]

Well if we’re talking safari guns(go check out the Dagga boy Blaster pack)

The Winchester 1895 in 405

[patent agate]

I'm about to post a base game caliber focused pack with the most fugly pistol that ever existed

[untold maple]

Do it

[patent agate]

Don't hate me

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[vestal panther]

Nile crocs could also be backfilled into Vurhonga considering there are signs saying "Beware of Crocs"

[mighty rampart]

Absolutely. Being and island maps crocodiles would make great additions.

[patent agate]

That would make that "collect water samples" mission more fun too

[untold maple]

Hippo could be a good backfill as well

So many animals could be a backfill, Vurhonga is so barren

[patent agate]

They could cut half or 3/4 of the duck spawns to make room and make me like the map again in the process

[mighty rampart]

Would be a great backfill

[patent agate]

Plus we're getting a .375, as long as they make it good

[untold maple]

Anything on Vurhonga
Would be good, just something at this point

[mighty rampart]

Ditto

Also likes are picking up again!

[manic vigil]

Only 45 away from 900!

[mighty rampart]

Super close

[untold maple]

Nice new rhino @mighty rampart

[patent agate]

One thing that might not have been brought up yet is roads. I'd rather not see an African map looking like a motocross track.

[mighty rampart]

Dankie

[untold maple]

True that. Mostly dirt roads, and whatever paved roads there are should be riddled with pot holes….the true African experience

[mighty rampart]

Would like the map to be fenced in fully. Give it that SA vibe.

Maybe a few missions where you do a fence patrol and look for cut wire etc

[patent agate]

That is what I was doing all day long lol. Except you gotta fight poachers and I gotta stop douchbags from cutting my fence and riding atvs through our just planted crops

[sick zodiac]

I think with this map cape buffalo need to be remodeled

[patent agate]

Got a question, any of y'all tried hunting cape buffalo with a 10ga?

[mortal rain]

It’s pretty fun, not very good

[patent agate]

The brass shells or plastic?

[mortal rain]

Brass mainly

[patent agate]

Had a bit of an odd thought. If we get the ability to change the caliber of the weapons, I wanna change the Gamekeeper 12ga to a 10ga and do more slug hunting

[untold maple]

For IRL
I had a PH who talked about it

[patent agate]

I like the Gamekeeper 12ga, it's the only fancy gun in the game I care for, but slug hunting with it and the scope is a lot of fun.

[mighty rampart]

Close to 900

[untold maple]

Just 40 away

[untold maple]

Question for everyone. What is your personal favorite African animal?
Only qualification is that it’s from Africa.

[mortal rain]

Tough question , probably either Greater Kudu, Hippopotamus, one of the many Zebra species, eland or Atlas Bear.

[untold maple]

For me it’s the Lord Derby Eland

[torn belfry]

Black antelope, eland, blue and black wildebeest and Kori bustard

that's it for those who dont know what the black antelope is

[untold maple]

Sable is it’s name

[torn belfry]

yes I know, it is also called black antelope or another name impossible to translate into French

[patent agate]

Roan, blue duiker, and hippo in that order

[patent agate]

Check these out, I found some vintage ammo boxes from Weatherby online

[mighty rampart]

Leopards for me, or white rhinos

[untold maple]

Both excellent choices

[untold maple]

Have you been saving some of the art I’ve been using for the polls?

[patent agate]

Yeah, some I'm keeping until I can get a print of. You said it was Cynthie Fisher right?

[untold maple]

Yep

[patent agate]

I already ordered two but I'm trying to find a good place to have the others blown up to the size I want

[untold maple]

Which ones did you get?

[patent agate]

One was a Roan antelope and the other was an elk print from her website

[untold maple]

Very nice

[patent agate]

Yeah, I got some plain walls and decided to do wildlife art

Well, more like I showed my wife and she decided on wildlife art

[untold maple]

That’s marriage

[patent agate]

Lol I thought I'd have to argue for it tho

[untold maple]

Oh no….that means she liked them

Prepare yourself for a more paintings in the house

[patent agate]

Yeah, considering building a shack in the woods to hang out in, for hunting season of course

[leaden wave]

Hyena or painted dogs/African wild dogs oh and Nile crocodile because it's nature's ultimate tax collector

[patent agate]

I really wish we'd gotten more animal names in African languages or at the very least they were in the codex, it was cool to hear the original name for the animal.

A direct translation would have been cool too

[hardy matrix]

Humans

[manic vigil]

African Bush Elephant

[mighty rampart]

Wild dogs always underrated

[dawn dew]

Rhinoceros are just impressive, not just behavioral but the way they’re built and their presence. 🙂

[hardy matrix]

Tactical Combat Battle unicorns

[untold maple]

Watching rhinos in the wild is a mesmerizing thing

[leaden wave]

90% hunting success rate most successful terrestrial carnivore and they let the young and old and sick in the pack eat first

[mighty rampart]

They’re Awsome

[mortal rain]

All 400k individuals are on the verge of extinction?

African Bush Elephants have a 400k+ population

[sick zodiac]

I don't think so?

[mortal rain]

That’s a lot. And especially for a 6 ton, highly intelligent semi truck with an arm for a nose….

It’s really not…

[tranquil phoenix]

Hello all I haven't really been online alot and I've never bothered to check discord but anyway Hello hope everyone's day is well

Well you have to consider many factors when judging when a animal has a low,medium, or high population I guess you have go conside the range of which a particular species or subspecies inhabits then whether they live in groups,pairs or alone and then things maybe like hunting or poaching or human encroachment or really anything that affects the natural landscapes and its inhabitants I don't know how scientists or people judge a population but that's how I imagine it

[tranquil phoenix]

Oof you gonna kill me with a headache but I like the suffering😜

[mortal rain]

Welcome back

[tranquil phoenix]

Thanks nice profile pic btw

[mighty rampart]

That’s massive for an animal that weighs 6.5 tons….

[torn belfry]

Afterwards, if elephants are in danger of extinction, something like that is especially the case in the face of the many problems they can encounter, diseases, poaching, disappearance of their habitats etc... But if there are many that they have an immense distribution compared to the Bengal tigers and also are monitored etc... So sorry but despite all the problems that these animals encounter and being more than 400,000, that means that they still manage to survive. Afterwards I don't know if the population is stagnating, or if it is increasing etc... because that also affects the classification of species.

[mighty rampart]

Elephant populations are out of control

[torn belfry]

All right

[patent agate]

And there's no easy way to move one elephant, much less a herd of 10. Hunting, as bad as it sounds, makes more sense than trying to tranq and transport like you would plains game size animals

[mighty rampart]

The cost of moving large game is also extortionate

[patent agate]

I'd be afraid to see the bill for one rhino, much less an elephant

[untold maple]

The logistics alone would be too expensive for a lot of countries.
Helicopters, tranqs, around the clock vets, security, transportation, etc. not to mention the stress would probably kill a lot of elephants.

Hunting is far more sustainable. Someone pays 80k to hunt one elephant, locals get free food, governments can use the taxes from those hunts to fund other conservation projects. Hunting just makes far more sense

[patent agate]

That's not counting the amount of damage a herd of 6ton herbivores could do to crops and vegetation, potentially destroying habitat for other animals and pushing them into more dangerous areas

[untold maple]

You should have seen all the polls I made

[patent agate]

I got curious and googled it, African bush elephants eat 350 pounds of vegetation every day. Figure that by 400k population and tell me what country in Africa could sustain a herd that size without destroying its ecosystem and crops

[tranquil phoenix]

I have seen all of your polls not really hard just the one with what are your favourite African Wildlife species

[mighty rampart]

Reminder for Africa big five supporters to vote for a Wooden stock on the upcoming 375. H&H, coming in the next weapon pack.

#📢︴polls message

🇿🇼🇿🇦🇧🇼🇰🇪🇿🇲

[untold maple]

Well it looks like the wooden stock is winning.

[mighty rampart]

Thank god,

[old saffron]

Everyday I wait for an Africa map and the horse DLC!! Cool to see this suggestion getting near to 900 likes! I forget when I initially liked it what number it was at

I really hope one day we can see an Africa 3.0 and 4.0, too much you’re able to do in it with just one more! I see them in my dreams 😂

[patent agate]

Looking even better

[mighty rampart]

No clue why anyone would vote for the green one, it’s a bolt action? Whatever your shooting at will be long gone by the time you fire a 4th round let alone a 5th

Mentally greedy people

-dramatic ik but that’s me

[patent agate]

Honestly, I'd have voted for a wood stocked gun with just 3 rounds in the mag. I hope the reload animations are like the malmer and Olsson, I'd be disappointed to see a .375 clip fed

Which stock style would you prefer?

[dawn dew]

Both thanks, here ya go! 💵

[patent agate]

I'm really happy with the .375, don't care about the blk, and idk much about the .450, I need to do some research

[mighty rampart]

Ditto

Not to flex but just secured a leopard hunt out here for only R20,000

[untold maple]

Very nice!

Hounds or in a blind?

Details…we need details

[patent agate]

Hounds? As in chasing/baying a cat on the ground or up a tree? You can hunt leopards like that?

[mighty rampart]

Neither I’m no coward, on foot

The place has a fairly dense leopard population, we will throw a few baits down and walk from one to the other for a couple of nights till we find something

[patent agate]

Idk if you've ever had the chance to chase something with dogs, but it's not for cowards

[untold maple]

Like a cougar hunt

Hunting with hounds is also popular for bushpigs

I saw one video of a leopard hunt with hounds and in the video the leopard jumped out of a tree and charged straight towards the client

[patent agate]

I'm going out for cougar this year, have my tags already. Never huntes cougars before but I have hunter black bears. 4 of them, 3 bayed up in massive thickets and cane breaks, shots like 5 yards and less. Dogs barking, men yelling, bear roaring, failing light, it's the most psychotic thing ever in the moment but you're absolutely burning with adrenaline in the moment.

[untold maple]

Now imagine that…but with a leopard

[patent agate]

I couldn't use my .30-30 but it sounds like a blast

[mighty rampart]

For me I’ve always got to be on foot when I shoot stuff, although I’ve done mounted hunting with dogs before

If I’m not putting myself in some form of unjustifiable danger then I’m not doing right, I’m a classic sportsman at heart

[patent agate]

The last bear I killed on a hound hunt was 3 feet from my rifles muzzle trying to kill the dog I was holding back.

To be clear, I was knee deep in the same creek as the animals and blood hit my face when I fired. Hound hunting is not safe but it's a kind of madness you can enjoy

It sounds insane, but that's not the craziest thing I've seen on a hound hunt. I've been out for feral pigs where the skinning knife was the pig killer

[untold maple]

Teddy Roosevelt wrote about how some cowboys would wrangle grizzly bears.
Your comment reminded of that

[patent agate]

Tbh, I did not knife the boar. I've already had my kneecap split by a pig it will not happen a second time

[untold maple]

Only a flesh wound

[patent agate]

Clean break, first day of rifle season. Hated pigs ever since

[mighty rampart]

Close to our 900 goal!

Amazing to see our community thriving still.

[patent agate]

What's your go to caliber for plains animals? Wildebeest and smaller

[mighty rampart]

Maybe not for wilderbeast but I’m a big fan of 308.

[patent agate]

I'm putting together a single shot .30-06 with a spare barrel for my plains game hunt. I plan to use a 200gr bullet, what do you think?

[mighty rampart]

Sounds like it should cover most of the game you’ll see.

Give it a try out and see what you think, I always go for something slightly bigger than I need to make sure that I don’t have to chase it around in the bush and let anything suffer

[patent agate]

Well, I'm going off a load a friend of mine made for his rifle back in Tennessee. We hunted together and I saw first hand a 400 something pound bear get knocked off its feet. Pretty sure it'll be fine but I'm wondering if I need to go lighter for impala and gazelle

[mighty rampart]

Defiantly go lighter for impala

[patent agate]

My wife and I are doing impala, wildebeest, gazelle and warthog. I was thinking the 06 would be good on the wildebeest but idk how light I should go for the smaller animals

[mighty rampart]

Best ask your outfitter on what they recommend

[patent agate]

I did, but he said to just bring a .300 win mag for everything

The more I read about them the more impala and gazelle remind me of yearling whitetail deer, light build, about a hundred pounds or a bit more, and thin skinned

[untold maple]

That’s what I learned with my wildebeest

[untold maple]

From experience, go with something bigger for wildebeest. They are stupidly tough animals

[eternal wave]

For Africa 2.0 if still a discussion should maybe have weapon pack to go with it like a .22 10gauge and maybe a more powerful rifle and should come with a thermal scope and zebra giraffe print maybe even a carbon fiber paint for weapons

Maybe even a like a budget rifle you get from missions like a .243 that’s duck taped together

[mortal rain]

Why?

[patent agate]

I'm not against the map awarding a rifle after some missions but don't tell me about it before the map drops. Maybe a battered .303 Enfield with some tribal patterns/decorations or something, a relic from ww2 or something ya know?

Other than that, I'd rather get something like a .416 bolt action or a double in .458 as the map weapon. Idek what I would want in a weapon pack for A2.0

[mighty rampart]

All sound good

[patent agate]

Honestly, I loved finding Grankin's shotgun on Medved. It wasn't the reserve weapon, there was no mention of it until you found it, and that's exactly why I like it so much.

Te Awaroa did have a found weapon, but you could see it in the store first, Cuatro Colinas has a weapon but it's way too weak and locked behind a mission that can be a nightmare if you don't get lucky spawns and no other map tried it.

I'd really live to see maps have a rifle, bow, or shotgun, whatever makes sense, aside from the reserve flagship weapon just hidden somewhere in the map to be found. It's a unique way to just add a little more reward for exploring what the devs have built

[untold maple]

888 likes

[mighty rampart]

We grow

[dire prism]

Great ideas; would love to see something like this come to the game

[mighty rampart]

😁

[dire prism]

Has anybody posited the idea of more heavy bolt action rifles for big game animals? I can think of a few that could definitely be warranted with the Big 5 like .416 and .460 Weatherby Magnum or some of the bigger straightcase express cartridges like .600 NE

[dire prism]

Agreed, it's the world's largest species of antelope and the bulls can approach 6 feet at the shoulder and 2600lbs in weight; the greater kudu and nyala are also notable mentions

[untold maple]

You should go check out The Dagga Boy Blaster pack

[dire prism]

Thank you! I found it and followed the discussion thread!

[mighty rampart]

Yeah we’ve had some good chats on here about rifles

375. Was one of our favourites

[dire prism]

Nice; I imagine you were all as elated as i was to see the wood stock option win the poll lol.

[untold maple]

The best way to describe the 375 is

If you had one gun to take hunting around the world, the 375 is it

[patent agate]

To quote David Petzal

"The .375 is to African hunting what the .30-06 is to American hunting, indispensable. "

[mighty rampart]

Ecstatic

[dawn dew]

I went all in for that 6.5MM RAYO, it looks so hallmark, wood finish AND engravings, yes!

Plus, I had that feeling like I’d just finished a milestone. 🤠

Surprise mission-hidden and found weapons are really awesome ideas as well!

[untold maple]

I’m still trying to get the 3 rabbits a night. For every one rabbit I see there’s 30 wolves! I’m practically tripping over wolves looking for rabbits!

[patent agate]

I mean, yes, I still want a reserve weapon that suits it's reserve well, but

Finding one, no matter it's condition is still fun and adds another interesting bit to the map. I don't care if the stats are identical to another weapon, if we found a scratched, battered, somewhat rusty old rifle with some decorations from a previous owner, then it's going to be one of my favorites. I honestly wish, if they included something like this, that they'd say nothing at all until it hits the community

[dawn dew]

Imagine being in B.C. and you find a dilapidated snow-dusted cabin that happens to have a .35 Whelen lever-action on the mantle over the stone fireplace!
🙌

Just then a notification comes in saying that, “New an ammunition is now available in the store.”

[patent agate]

Exactly, it would be a constant in my loadouts too

[mighty rampart]

A victory for Africa

[patent agate]

Now we just gotta pray it has good iron sights (if any of the devs read this, please keep on the path you made the iron sights for the 7mm Malmer and .308 Olsson, they're some of the best and most usable in the game)

[dawn dew]

Those are some great sights!

[mighty rampart]

Fingers crossed

[patent agate]

Hope the .300blackout is good enough for roe deer and springboks, I miss crawling the brush and hunting them at like 15 yards

[mighty rampart]

Absolutely

[mystic token]

prepare for another case of tsurugi .338 type of iron sights

[patent agate]

Those sights are hideous and don't deserve to considered for a proper Safari rifle much less on it

[mystic token]

they make my brain explode the moment I try to use them, absolutely horrific

[patent agate]

Those and the ones on the .22-250 are the worst in the game, there's just a fence post on the 7mm Regent/Empress

Now that we're guaranteed a .375 in Safari rifle style, what other calibers or weapons are you guys hoping for?

[manic vigil]

900!

[mortal rain]

Woooo!

[sick zodiac]

Sigma 900

[untold maple]

900🎉🎆🎇🎉

[untold maple]

405, 425, and 458

[mortal rain]

318

[patent agate]

I'd love a .416, although it'd be amazing to have a big bore single shot in any of these cartridges

[mighty rampart]

900

We are growing faster!

Thanks to the regulars making strong conversations on Africa 2 on this thread.

Keep up the discussion,

Big celebration when we hit 1000

🇰🇪🇩🇪🇿🇼🇷🇼🇿🇦

[patent agate]

So, I found this and it got me thinking about the rifle sights in game. Are they mostly based on European hunting/target sights or what? They are little hard to use sometimes

Ignore the download, my phone is being stupid or I am, one or the other.

Anyway that's from Africa Hunting and it's supposedly the different type of iron sights typically used on dangerous game rifles

[glad loom]

Big celebration? 👀

[untold maple]

The 505 GIBBS

[mortal rain]

What ever setting we may end up getting for Africa 2.0… I hope it makes up for the lack of maneater hunts, whether it be the Black Bear on srp, the croc on Emerald Coast, or the Tigress of Sundarpatan.

[dire flume]

Ok hear me out this vs a charging elephant

[willow mortar]

I got this thing

[steel pagoda]

Skeenyee#

[mighty rampart]

Jeez

[patent agate]

How do you guys feel about leopard feed zones bring a carcass in the trees?

[untold maple]

As it should be.

Tree mechanics should be a thing

[main knot]

904 UPVOTES?

[patent agate]

Africa is a hunter's dream, no surprise it's high

[main knot]

Not my hunting dream, I want Kyrgyzstan map.

[manic vigil]

feel like it would be needed if Leopards got added

[patent agate]

There's also the possibility of baits (works like a call or scent and draws the animal to one spot in it's need zone).

[warped grail]

Bump

[untold maple]

You don’t need to bump this post. There’s enough discussion on here that I believe there’s at least one EW employee constantly reading and taking notes(hopefully)

[mighty rampart]

Don’t advertise your threads on mine thank you, you don’t see me doing it on yours, it’s good manners.
We’re here to talk about Africa only

[mighty rampart]

I think that something like this would make the map stand out a bit more, any new species with unique feed zones is bound to draw allure.

[patent agate]

I was thinking it could work similar to treestands, equipping it highlights branches or trees where it could be placed.

Now I think of it, should the bait be a consumable? Like the spike you hang it from is a one time purchase but the baits only last 2 or 3 days in game time?

Idk, what do you guys think?

[mighty rampart]

Think that would work best.

[patent agate]

I figure finding a need zone would be hard enough so leopards need a reason to be in that one spot in front of the blind, and that's one of the irl ways of hunting them so it would be cool to see in game.

Much as I hate them personally, it would also be cool to tie a photo challenge to it

[mighty rampart]

Leopards are often shot with blinds, they’re too switched on to be tracked down.

We say for every 1 you see 20 others have already seen you

[patent agate]

Had a thought, before Africa 2.0 gets here I hope we get a solid weapon rework. I don't mind leopards being taken with .30-06, .300 Mag, or .338 because they seem reasonable for it. But I really don't want to see rhino, hippos, or elephants in the same class as bison, and lions.

It just makes absolutely no sense, and from what I've read lately even .338 Lapua isn't legal for dangerous game in most places. The bullets just don't have the force needed for the really big animals like cape buffalo and larger

[main knot]

oh sorry my bad

[mortal rain]

I sincerely doubt anyone in that twitter thread has been to Africa, nevermind hunted there.

[untold maple]

Undoubtedly.
So many of these groups are made up of people that outright refuse to learn or understand what hunting is and what it does.

Hunting is like gardening. To have a beautiful tree you must prune the tree, so that in the long run it stays healthy and doesn’t collapse on itself. Thats what I like to say at least

[mortal rain]

It’s sad really.

[patent agate]

It's Twitter, not having the ability to reason is required to get an account

[willow mortar]

This is what I don’t understand. Hunting is some of the most conservative ways of gathering meat. It helps level out animal populations and the fact animal lovers don’t see that it’s beneficial makes me sad.

[main knot]

And you can't argue with those people, they just believe its bad and you can't change their mind at all.

[willow mortar]

Exactly. They are uneducated and need to be taught

[patent agate]

People are too disconnected from their food sources. They'd freak out if they saw the conditions that cattle lived in before they ended up in McDonald's burgers

[mortal rain]

I feel like a big part of it lies in the media (school books, movies, etc) have taught some to hate all hunters. These are the same people who hate alpaca farms because they think they rip the hair out instead of shears (shears is like 70x faster).

[willow mortar]

For sure

[untold maple]

I especially blame Bambi for this. It turned every hunter into the guy who shot Bambi’s mum to the general public.

[mighty rampart]

Ditto

[patent agate]

The guy with the rifle is easiest to blame, unfortunately

[final current]

Funny enough the original Bambi story was written by Felix Salten, who was an avid hunter if I recall correctly

A lot of the story was changed by Disney (wouldn’t be the first time they did so)

[mighty rampart]

Canned hunting isn’t ethical to be fair

[mortal rain]

Calling it trophy hunting in the first place is a wild accusation.

[patent agate]

If that was confirmed at all, there's no real information just buzzwords

[untold maple]

That’s exactly what it is

[patent agate]

How many people on reddit have even been outside the city? 2%? They have nothing but a loud voice and more herd instincts than sheep

[mortal rain]

If you combine everyone from the hunting/gun/outdoors subreddits, you’ll find it.

[patent agate]

I wish I'd have taped what happened in my old deer camp. Had a friend of a friend join us for a couple days and he shot a nice buck. Then he took just the head and came back to camp bragging. Man got the sh** kicked out of him by 6 people

[mortal rain]

Someone taught him wrong!

[patent agate]

Someone else threw his Browning into a lake. You don't want to be caught poaching in tn and it ain't the game warden you ought to be scared of

[untold maple]

If you don’t like venison, fine don’t eat it. But at least bring it back so other people can eat it!

Im gonna be thinking about that for the rest of the day now…my day is ruined

[patent agate]

At the same camp, when I was younger I saw a man in his late 40's crying until he puked because he wounded and lost a deer. Not a soul in camp made fun of him and we finally got a half dozen coon dogs together to look for it

[mortal rain]

I can’t even imagine disliking venison.

[manic vigil]

Pause. He did WHAT?

[untold maple]

Some people just don’t have good tastes

[manic vigil]

It's good he hopefully learned his lesson (assuming he did)

[patent agate]

I apologize.

I never saw that guy again tho, and the dude who brought him was almost thrown out of the camp. People who hunt for food see the world very differently

[untold maple]

Wounding an animal just sucks all around.

But that kind of experience definitely reminds you to be a better hunter, that’s for sure

[patent agate]

I grew up with guys who only cared for venison, like "ya can't eat bone" guys. I remember very specifically one old man at the checking station near our place. My dad was checking in a buck he got when this guy pulled in and he was mad as they come.

"We get one buck tag a year and my dumb *** just so happens to shoot this scrawny thing" it was an 8 point with a wide rack but it was skinny, running does so much he wouldn't make it through winter skinny

Back to African topics.

Do you actually get to eat any animal you shoot? Like if you down an impala at camp do you eat from it for your trip or do they send the meat to the nearest village and just rely on supplies bought before the trip?

[mighty rampart]

We chow the impalas, or I bring it back to the anti poaching camp for the guys.

There’s this notion that meat “goes to the local tribes”

It’s a really condescending way of saying it goes to public butchery’s and people can buy it😅

[patent agate]

I kinda meant like a freezer or something but sure.

I'd rather it just went to the guys who helped me tho.

I only asked because I'm curious how smaller animals are handled. Like gazelle or duiker

Idk if anyone else thinks this but if there were animals on land, the anglers African reserve would be a great hunting area

[main knot]

It's good, those Blue Kurper are mean to me though

[patent agate]

What? That's my favorite fish tho

[main knot]

They don't like me I've caught like 500 and no dime

[patent agate]

I caught the first dime off the dock you start at with bloodworm. . .

[mighty rampart]

Small things like Duiker as usually eaten there and then

[patent agate]

I kinda figured, after bones and organs there can't be much meat there

[untold maple]

I was told by my PH that duiker were more likely to have worms and other parasites

[patent agate]

Wouldn't most parasites be killed by cooking? And they mostly inhabit the gut not the actual meat

[mighty rampart]

Most likely

[dapper marlin]

YES ADD AFRICA 2.0 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mighty rampart]

Amen

[patent agate]

I've only just realized, the .375 is going to be in a wood stock but we have no guarantee it won't be some gaudy laminate color

[mortal rain]

Just gotta hope EW isn’t dumb and actually listens to us I guess.

[mighty rampart]

If it is we riot

If there’s a single bit of plastic, we make a racket

[patent agate]

Might make a suggestion for it, just kinda show what we're hoping for

Posted it and tagged this thread.

#1265311711355994133 if you want to see it

This particular one looks awesome

[patent agate]

It's the Lion Series at SCI they're all RUMs from 7mm to .450

[untold maple]

Accidentally found the top. If you want to reread or if you haven’t read it, here it is

[mighty rampart]

If they did the respawn mechanics they did today on elephants in an Africa 2 map I would implode with anger.

[tropic sundial]

Won't have to worry about Africa 2.0 it may very well be next map though cause they said it would be last map

[mighty rampart]

Negative Jaxy has said multiple times that that’s not the case

[mighty rampart]

We got mentioned in the stream today

[mortal rain]

Ooooh, what did jaxy say?

[patent agate]

Didn't get to watch the entire stream, did he say much about ?

[patent agate]

He means the game is dying

[devout kernel]

Was thinking abt this its a good idea and will get my money

[mighty rampart]

Here’s hoping

@patent agate @mortal rain

[mortal rain]

Almost makes me hopeful it’s coming sooner than expected…

[mighty rampart]

Let’s not hold our breath but I did like his response🫣

[azure pebble]

Is this actually coming to the game or am i just hoping currently?

[patent agate]

Just hoping at the moment, but maybe a little more hope

[azure pebble]

It would honestly be so awesome to have animals like hippos and girrafes and just even baboons

[mighty rampart]

They would be great additions

Bang the drum for Africa, with us, and help make this map reality

[patent agate]

I'm hoping, against all odds, that there's no GO on Africa 2.0, I want them to focus on making a good map not another grinding area

[azure pebble]

Id honestly be happy with whatever. The develepors are really great at their job working on this game. Im sure they’ll figure it out if we get africa 2.0

[mighty rampart]

I wouldn’t worry too much, they’ve never made an ugly map

[patent agate]

I'm not concerned it'll look bad, I'm worried the terrain will be built around grinding like NEM was

[dire flume]

What could be so big that’s jaxy was hinting at in the steam coming in November

[dire flume]

Nem was in 0 way built around grinding it’s the worst grinding map in the game

[patent agate]

An island surrounded by rivers with moose and whitetail deer.

Yeah

[mighty rampart]

Hopefully 5 things

[dire flume]

Hopefully

[dire flume]

But you can’t grind them bc of the tent thing and there is 200 zones for moose no one grinds it I might have been gear towards grinding but no one grinds it

[patent agate]

If anything, the community weapon pack makes me wonder if they plan to Overhaul the score system. Like a big change, patryja said they were looking at new reticles

[mighty rampart]

Could well be

[patent agate]

She posted a picture of several reticles. Not many that look made for hunting tho

#1180283487719260170

[mighty rampart]

These would be cool

[patent agate]

Dunno about 6 and 7 but yeah, good choices

[mighty rampart]

We better get an outfit like this

[patent agate]

Lmao, pith helmet and all EW

[mighty rampart]

Patterson style helmet

[patent agate]

Think Vurhonga came with this outfit they just changed a couple details

[patent agate]

I've seen quite a few people arguing this in my own friend group and on here, I don't want to cause and argument but

Do any of y'all have a problem with hunting primates? I mean baboons and macaques, not apes or chimps.

[dawn dew]

You mean like, hit-boxes in trees?

[gilded bloom]

Porcupines

[patent agate]

No, but that would be cool because shooting a leopard off a branch would be amazing

I just mean the animal, is there an issue with shooting them?

[dawn dew]

Shouldn’t have stolen my taco after waiting in line for 30 minutes at my favorite food truck. 😆

[patent agate]

Exactly. I've seen tons of videos of them just straight up attacking tourists so I'm wondering why they aren't culled

[mighty rampart]

No issue

Baboons are the most hunted primate here

[patent agate]

Do you see a lot of nuisance calls on them? They seem like they'd be a real problem on farms. I wouldn't mind taking down baboons with a .223 or something

[final current]

Monkeys (including Baboons) are fair game in my opinion

Also Chimpanzees are a type of Ape, more specifically a Great Ape (which also includes Bonobos, Gorillas, Orangutans and Humans)

[mighty rampart]

Yeah pretty common, they’re everywhere

[patent agate]

See, I've got friends who said they'd rather shoot housecats than monkeys. I don't get it, just looking at a baboon you should be able to tell it's going to be a problem

They're what ? 30 or 40 pounds, maybe more with 3 inch canines and pack tactics

[untold maple]

Don’t forget the vervets

Their like squirrels…but worse

[dire prism]

They also attack and kill pets and have occasionally been known to attack children and even abduct human infants and eat them alive

[patent agate]

Which means they need culling in areas where they have regular contact with humans

[dire prism]

precisely; although I think there are some conservation laws that make it difficult to defend oneself/a loved one/a pet/livestock from them outside of a hunting context; tbh I wouldn't be able to fly with that in SA; if I were in a scenario where I had a child and that child was being attacked by a baboon that thing's getting killed by whatever means I have available to me because my sympathies ended the moment it decided to maul someone I care about

[untold maple]

Since we’re on the topic of baboons, might as well show this mount I found.probably the best baboon mount I’ve seen

[dire prism]

neat

[patent agate]

Fair, my local game warden tells me to shoot whatever needs it.
We had a black bear snooping around our place in spring and he told me to just kill it and report that it had killed a goat or cow, all he has to do is come by and look at the situation then write a little report

[dire prism]

yeah, sounds roughly correct; predators being acclimated to people is a bad thing; be selective with mtn lions though, the dominant toms prevent younger ones from going haywire and killing livestock, so if a/the dominant tom is shot like 5 to 7 dispersal yearling males move in and start killing goats, sheep, and cows by the dozen (in my state, CO, killing a dominant tom causes livestock deaths from mtn lions in particular to go up by %250-%450, with some worst-case outliers approaching %1,000 increases; it's a similar increase for livestock deaths to predators in general since the lions make up the majority for larger stock outside of coyotes)

[patent agate]

Never have trouble with cougars, just black bears and coyotes. Only seen a lion trail two or three times since we moved here about 2 or 3 years ago

[dire prism]

probably a more regulated population where you are then; CO basically has a surplus of them

[patent agate]

I'm in Wyoming, I did apply for landowner tags just in case

[mighty rampart]

In short, monkeys are basterds

[dire prism]

🙈

[mighty rampart]

😦

[patent agate]

Answer monkey noise with bullets

[patent agate]

Swap the black .470 with the Halloween colors and you have the poacher's rifle from Vurhonga, LoL

[mighty rampart]

Lol

[patent agate]

Feels like it should have been something like that to start with, that weird vanta black is awful

[untold maple]

All Too true

[dire flume]

https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1195097534239088720 copying link to scroll to top

[patent agate]

Are pistols hunted with much in Africa? I just had a thought and got curious

[untold maple]

South Africa, Ethiopia and I believe Zimbabwe allow pistols for hunting.

[patent agate]

Oh cool, haven't seen much about it tho. Haven't really gone looking to much either tho. Just had a thought that in all wellington's pics I haven't seen a sidearm. Wondered if they were banned for some reason

[untold maple]

Pistols aren’t terribly popular in Africa. It’s better to just have a rifle, but I know PH’s will use them for putting down plain’s game(not dangerous game though, you use a rifle for them)

[dire prism]

Maybe it's just about like case of use?

Like, idk how much good a 9mm or .45 Auto handgun's gonna go against a charging rhino, elephant, hippo, or cape buffalo, and I can't imagine it's the best choice if you get into a firefight with a group of poachers (although I'm not sure if something like that has happened since like 2000 in SA)

[patent agate]

Totally fair, but also, if something drags you out of the tent better a pistol than nothing right?

Can't really say I hunt with a pistol very much but I don't think it would be bad to have a decent one as a back up or alternative

Anyway, had this thought after deciding how to deal with my sudden pile of surplus .350 Legend ammo. I ordered what is basically a cuomo pistol with a 10"barrel. Thought it would be a fun gun for deer

[untold maple]

Yeah a pistol is definitely better than the nearest stick, that’s for sure

[mighty rampart]

Yeah it’s legal but not super common

[dire prism]

May it have something to do with the fact that the majority of the pistol cartridges usable on the larger game animals there can injure your wrists or give you a forehead tattoo with the front sight post if you aren't ready for the recoil?

Plus the whole range restriction that comes with a pistol, and also the comparitive loss of power.

[patent agate]

I kinda have a thing about carrying a pistol after I got my knee busted by a feral hog. It flattened me and knocked my rifle out of my hands and I had to scramble to it . By the time I grabbed the rifle and swung it around the muzzle was a.couple inches in front of its face. I could have used a pistol then but didn't have one on me

Never going to take a pistol over a rifle for actually stopping something cold, but having a second option just feels better

[gilded meteor]

That art would looks great in my room lol

[patent agate]

Well, my save file is gone again, back to square one for the 4th time

[mighty rampart]

Looks Awsome

[untold maple]

Probably the single coolest saddle ever

[patent agate]

Rigby Highland stalker in .275

If only I had 30k that I had no use for

[mighty rampart]

Looks beautiful

[patent agate]

Rigby does make some gorgeous stuff, I'm kinda hoping the .375 will have this kinda look to it

[gilded meteor]

I reset purposefully and got a diamond in 40 minutes lol

[patent agate]

I did not do it purposefully. Or at all. But my game sure decided I needed to totally restart

[gilded meteor]

I know. I just was saying I’m with you bro.

[patent agate]

It's the 4th time tho, I can't even enjoy hunting the way I want to because I have to keep unlocking the same scopes and ammo repeatedly

[gilded meteor]

That definitely sucks

[patent agate]

What's more annoying is after buying the .300 ar the bolt action is still locked behind 6k xp. When they gave us the power pack the .338 git unlocked but the 7mm didn't

It makes no sense how they've done it

[azure pebble]

If this were to be added how long would yall guess it would take to be made?

[mortal rain]

Same as Nepal, little less if they start halfway before the map before it is finished.

[patent agate]

Wouldn't object to it taking longer if it was a bigger map, which I'm sure they could do.

[mighty rampart]

Same here, tbh even if the map was a little smaller but we got the big 5 species I’d be happy

[fleet forge]

What about Cheetahs!

[mighty rampart]

Not thought about cheetahs! Good suggestion

[mighty rampart]

Good luck chasing one down if you spook it though

[patent agate]

Cheetahs would make a very interesting hunt, but they're so small they'd almost have to be class 3 right?

[mighty rampart]

4, they’ve small but still not teeny

They make this incredible noise too, like a chirping

[patent agate]

Really? They're so light I'd think a .243 would be great on them but I'd feel bad using a .300 or something

[mighty rampart]

Just within the game classes 3 just seems slightly too small

[patent agate]

Idk, hog deer and pronghorn are really tough class 3s, neither really belong there tho

[mighty rampart]

Hmm, it’s up for debate. I have no idea what people use to hunt them

[patent agate]

I could see 270 being really good tho,maybe class 4 is best

[mighty rampart]

I’m not even sure if you can hunt cheetahs here- I’ve never heard of it before

[patent agate]

Same, I think it was a 50s thing

[mighty rampart]

Could be

[dire prism]

as far as I know they can only be culled or moved; their genetic diversity is practically none since almost all surviving wild individuals are descended from parent-offspring and sibling-sibling pairings after they were nearly completely extirpated for the fur market in Europe

[mighty rampart]

Wouldn’t surprise me

[patent agate]

I'd be willing to bet a large portion of cheetah hides were sold as leopard skins because folks wouldn't know the difference

[dire prism]

Quite likely to be honest

[patent agate]

Can't think of any other good reason for shooting cheetahs tbh. They are cats so probably not the best meat, not much of a challenge if you can shoot from a distance (bow hunting could be fun tho) and around that time leopard furs were probably selling for a good price

[dire prism]

Plus they've been bullied so hard by market hunters, poachers, and nature that it would be adding insult to injury tbh.

[patent agate]

The word Flimsy fits them to a T

Honestly a reserve with a large cheetah population would be a good sign, especially if there were enough the mission would be culling them to make them spread out more and help genetic variations. Sort of shoot a few to break up territories and spread them out more

[untold maple]

I’m pretty sure South Africa allows cheetah, and I definitely know Namibia have cheetah hunts

[final current]

Africa cheetah hunting is very controlled. They are strictly protected as a CITIES Appendix 1 animal. In the early 1990s, CITIES approved quotas for cheetah trophies from South Africa, Zimbabwe and Namibia, but US hunters can’t bring cheetah trophies home

Of course I only hear about Cheetah Hunting happening in Namibia

[untold maple]

Importation is just a mess. But if I remember right, you can import to Canada

[final current]

You can import cheetah and markhor trophies

But the Federal Government banned the importation of Elephant tusk and Rhinoceros horns less then a year ago (despite no more then 7 pairs of elephant tusk and one set of rhinoceros horns coming into Canada every year if I recall correctly)

[patent agate]

CITES is a pain, you have to jump through hoops to get tags so you can sell bobcat/lynx pelts. Lynx I kinda understand but bobcats are not even close to being threatened

[dire prism]

bobcats are overpopulated in many parts of the country, so them being super regulated makes about zero sense; wish CITES was still the way it was like 4 years ago when its regulations weren't written by complete numpties

[patent agate]

I shot one a week ago with one of our chickens in it's mouth, the dipstick in the DNR still tried to charge me with poaching

[dire prism]

certified federal agent moment

must not know that federal law allows anybody who keeps livestock to kill any predator in the US in defense of their stock animals. Many states extend this to naming specific species with Wyoming and Colorado naming coyotes, bears, mtn lions, foxes, bobcats, and wolves as at-risk animals that you are allowed to shoot if they threaten your animals.

[patent agate]

The game warden told him it wasn't poaching since it killed livestock and all I had to do was sign a couple of papers. People who spent their entire lives in a city shouldn't be allowed to work in wildlife management

[dire prism]

At this point it's not a question of whether he was from a city but rather had he ever been outside or even seen a bobcat in his life before that call, I've lived in a city my whole life (I hate it) and I somehow have a better grasp of the laws that govern human-animal relations than a DNR officer.

Where do this guys get their certifications, a box of crackerjacks?

[patent agate]

No clue, the local game warden is a better officer than most I've dealt with. He helped last year when coyotes got one of our goats. He also comes up here and let's us know if there's a problem animal in the area

[dire prism]

Well at least one of the officers in your area has his head screwed on straight, that's a nice upside.

[patent agate]

Most do, it's just the new guys that are morons

[dire prism]

Sounds about right

[sick zodiac]

5500th message

[mighty rampart]

Big W

[viral summit]

Just to throw in a new idea what about a new great one with the map?

[mighty rampart]

Elephant great one of course

[sick zodiac]

Super super tuskers with 60kg tusks lol

[untold maple]

Or a Four tusker. It’s a rare mutation

[manic vigil]

Or maybe even tusks that resemble a mammoth or mastodon

[dire prism]

Or maybe tusks like the extinct straight-tusked elephants that got like 10+ foot tusks

[manic vigil]

that too

honestly would make more sense now thinking about it since Palaeoloxodon is very closely related to the African Elephant genus (Loxodonta), mainly the African Forest Elephant (Loxodonta cyclotis)

[dire prism]

could do the mammoth tusks for asian elephants (if we ever get them) since asian elephants are closely related to mammoths

[mortal rain]

Doubtful. I’d rather just see more tusk variations for the great one tbh

[dire prism]

Valid

[patent agate]

How about a weapon skin for the .470 that's just engraved with elephants and ebony wood awarded fir your first diamond elephant?

[mortal rain]

Better yet a .600NE?

[patent agate]

Any double would be cool, .470 is just an example

[manic vigil]

maybe for a great one Asian Elephant

[mighty rampart]

Doubt we will see Asian elephants after sundar and Indian map is very unlikely

[manic vigil]

true

[patent agate]

If hyenas use pack tactics, how many should each group contain?

[dire prism]

would vary; clans range from under a dozen to more than 90 depending on region, length of time since formation, and time of year

I'd say probably 10 to 20 for a common range and a max of 30 to 40

like the wildebeests on Vurhonga

[patent agate]

Rather see like 5 or less, there's problems with groups that large

[dire prism]

could just copy the wolves with solos, pairs and packs of 3 to 8 with the odd larger one every once in a while

[patent agate]

Had a pack of 12-15 jump me in Cuatro once, not very fun, all I hadvon me was the 7mm bolt gun

[dire prism]

😬

[mighty rampart]

Around 4-5

[sick zodiac]

Female hyenas should make diamond since they are bigger than males

[patent agate]

Since the majority of people who keep up with this thread are pretty reasonable and care for the game I wanna ask something here.

Community challenges and rewards, would they be a decent time killer between maps? Simple rewards like a new skin or something for smaller rewards to something more interesting for bigger challenges. What I mean is, let's say, a new shotgun for x amount of birds killed, a new handgun for x amount of golds taken with a handgun.

Do the weapons need to be an entirely new design and concept or can they be a modified version of what we have in the game? Say a single shot pistol like the cuomo but .308?

[warped grail]

I'd say so

[mighty rampart]

Hmmm

[patent agate]

I posted #1264377279086202891 with an alternate .338 rifle for folks who don't like the Tsurugi but it's not getting a ton of traction, I asked here because I wanted to know if this is something anyone would actually care for as far as the game

[warped grail]

I strongly advocate for this map as it adds both the Big 5 and more plains game. Africa has a crapton of interesting plains game species that aren't well represented

Tho tbh, I'd keep in lions and then change the Vurhonga map to be mor Karoo/Kalahari based which opens the door for cheetahs, blesbok, and black wildebeest

This will help contrast that hap with the Big 5 map

[mortal rain]

Could it be… the consequences of a steadily growing population of multi ton animals?

[warped grail]

Then, make a Cameroon map

So you have 3 Africa maps that deliver on what makes the continent a hunter's paradise

[mighty rampart]

The issue is that Vurhonga has already been marketed as a Botswana map back in 2017 won the EW twitter

[dire prism]

Wait, what?

Why did they put them emblem in South Africa then?

confusion

[mighty rampart]

This is a load of BS

Hunting is the biggest positive factor in animal
Conservation

[dire prism]

Man people are dumb. For those in this thread that don't know, elephants tend to have uneven tusks because they used one preferred one, so their wear asymmetrically with one breaking off before the other.

It's also a common recessive trait to have one tusk longer than the other.

[mortal rain]

What is your opinion on the super tusker thing in Tanzania, personally I don’t know enough about it to have any opinion but that is one of her main talking points?

[dire prism]

Who has anything against super tuskers in their right mind 💀

[mortal rain]

I don’t know, I know nothing about them.

[warped grail]

I can imagine a story arc where you hunt a diamond elephant that's on its last teeth

[dire prism]

As far as I know the super tuskers are just bulls with good genetics that grow old and get huge tusks thanks to a stable environment (and assuming they don't break a tusk at some point).

The only way they can exist is if it's going well in the first place.

They also keep younger bulls in line and if/when they go rogue in their old age any reserve can bring in hundreds of thousands to pay some foreigner to shoot it.

[warped grail]

Also they're mostly rly rly old

The main reason we don't see tuskers that much is that in many areas, the population skews young

[patent agate]

He'll of a lot of trouble for a glorified molar

[dire prism]

even worse, glorified canine tooth.

It comes from one of the smallest teeth 😭

[mortal rain]

So they are literally just older bull elephants in Tanzania, huh.

[dire prism]

Yeah, that's it.

Any of the younger ones with like 35 inch tusks that are just barely mature can eventually become that, and many of them actually will assuming they aren't poached, killed during musth by another bull, and avoid starvation/thirst/disease.

[patent agate]

You know how in whitetail management they want to keep the bigger and older bucks in the gene pool and cull the ones with smaller antlers? Same theory but elephant as far as I can tell

[dire prism]

It also has to do with the survival of the females and young with both species (really most game animal species) since overzealous young males with no older, dominant ones to keep them in check can breed females to death, fatally injure them in the process of mating, and will often go out of their way to try and kill a prior year's offspring to force early estruss.

[patent agate]

Population control

[mortal rain]

She’s trying way too hard to make them seem like their own subspecies lol

[patent agate]

Moral grandstanding to make herself popular with idiots who don't do their own thinking

[mortal rain]

It’s hilarious.

[patent agate]

Got something annoying me. Way of the hunter is doing an ammo update with 3 types of ammo per caliber and it's only been out about 2 years.

Call of the Wild has been out for 7 and we still have two stupidly basic ammo types

[untold maple]

When it comes to hunting(elephants in particular) I say that hunting is like gardening. To have a healthy tree you have to prune it, otherwise it will collapse on itself

[main knot]

yes, sometimes too many of something is bad

[warped grail]

Well also, a lot of it is because of elephants concentrating in places due to habitat fragmentation, fencing of protected areas without corridors or even their refusal to leave

Like I know Botswana has a shitload of elephants due to a lot of them being refugees from Angola during the war so, even with the war having stopped a while ago, many would refuse to go back

[mighty rampart]

No clue think they made a F-up

On the twitter if you go back to around 2017 is says it’s set in Botswana

[mighty rampart]

I mean look,

If you can market a certain animal at a higher price because of certain unique physical features go for it- all this money goes into keeping reserves running

[mighty rampart]

That’s one of the best ways of describing it, that I’ve heard. I’ll save this

[patent agate]

Doesn't look much like Botswana to me either. I think they missed the mark entirely and tried to cover it up

[dire prism]

Like Huxley said I think they screwed up lol.

The geography and the environment they made for the map is more representative of that area around the southern extent of the Drakensburg range than Botswana.

Oh well, i guess if there's a silver lining it could mean an Africa 2.0 reserve in Botswana with most or all the ideas you've laid out here.

[patent agate]

I'm happy we're getting a. 375 finally, I just hope it's not some gaudy super modern design tho

[dire prism]

community choice was wooden stock with I think a 24 inch barrel so it's likely gonna be some iteration of an H&H, CZ550, or similar

[patent agate]

It was, however nothing said it wouldn't be a laminate stock and covered in Cerakote

[dire prism]

true, we'll just have to wait and see i suppose

[warped grail]

Botswana already falls in the Kalahari

Then I'd redo the whole thing to the point where it's a whole new map

Open savannah/desert with springbok, black wildebeest, and gemsbok being the dominant herbivores and the flagship carnivore is the cheetah

This will be a great way to contrast it with this big 5 map which is what you proposed

[warped grail]

What do you think?

Tikamoon Plains is a good visual of what I'm talking about. Lots of very arid savannah and desert

[mortal rain]

Needs a large swath of Okavango Delta (like 50%) but I get the vision.

[warped grail]

Oh I was just planning for a fairly plain desert map with plains game so that it wouldn't conflict with the big 5 map

Trying to think of making each map worth a hunt

[final current]

48 away from 1000 upvotes

[mortal rain]

Most of Botswana’s hunting takes place in the Okavango, so personally I’d want that to be the main focus.
Namibia is great for deserts and plains game.

[warped grail]

Then make that map Namibia

[warped grail]

I'm sure people won't mind the change and you'd have 2 distinct African maps

[mighty rampart]

Would prefer a greater Kruger area map, more dense bush and mountains with lush green river bed areas

[patent agate]

What do you think of the Caprivi strip?

[warped grail]

That's what the big 5 map here would be

[mighty rampart]

Hmmm

[warped grail]

I'm trying to consider the uniqueness of locations and the animals in them so that every map has something that attracts players

[patent agate]

Give me a map with plains game and I'd pay 15 bucks

[warped grail]

Oh same

[patent agate]

Ducks ruined Vurhonga for me, made me despise birds, hopefully Africa 2.0 won't suffer constant quacking

[warped grail]

Yeah waterfowl in this game are broken

Also, in terms of small birds, there's a much more obvious candidate IMO; guineafowl

[mighty rampart]

Ducks on Vurhonga are like flying megaphones

Way too loud

[patent agate]

Best description yet.

I'd actually love to see guinea fowl in game, they look good in WotH but I think CotW might make them more interesting with rares and such

[mighty rampart]

Cheers

[dire flume]

I totally forgot the species list and can’t find a way to get it back up to the top how do you do that

[dire prism]

ducks in general in this game sound like they're only 10 meters up lol.

I come from a family of waterfowl hunters, and while ducks/geese are about as vocal in flight IRL as in game, they're much quieter over distance (unless landed, then it's an insufferable cacophany)

[mighty rampart]

It should be pinned

[untold maple]

Got it

The trick is to randomly tap around the title and likes

[patent agate]

So, if you guys haven't seen it, the Way of the Hunter update changed their ammo, all ot it, to more effective rounds. Even the weakest base calibers got improved. The ammo amounts to soft point, Polymer Tipped, and hollow point. They pretty much bettered cotw's ammo system by a wide margin

[mighty rampart]

Close to 1000

[willow mortar]

I cna smell it

[patent agate]

When this post reaches 1k I hope jaxy tells us what the devs think of it. I'd love to know just how closely they are watching this thread grow

[dire flume]

He has mentioned it in a stream

[dire prism]

👀 In what way?

In passing or?

[mighty rampart]

It’s been mentioned quite a few times

[dire prism]

there is hope yet

[lucid flame]

A Africa hunting paradise! Please I hope they add this!
Up Up Up 🔥🔥🔥

[untold maple]

It would be nice to know if the feedback is actually effecting anything

[patent agate]

I don't think they'd come straight out and say their plans, but it would be encouraging if they named a few things we've discussed that got their interest

[untold maple]

Exactly

[mighty rampart]

Real

[dire flume]

Someone said have you seen Africa big 5 has reached 950 upvotes and he said we have been paying attention

[late pond]

I'm sure it was mentioned within the 5k replies but I recall a question you had at the start of this thread about Hyenas and Honey Badgers. I believe the Badger would be great as a T: 2 or 3 simply bc they are hardy predators & tenacious by nature. As for the Hyena I'm thinking a T: 6 due to there behavior and groups even though they're scavengers and will eat everything.

[dire flume]

Idk if this has been discussed but a lion rework would be great where there is a set number of prides not too low but not too high where they are everywhere and a model rework too possible g1

[warped grail]

Spotted hyenas are mostly predators

[dire prism]

75% success rate while lions usually sit between 22% and 31%

Lions are usually the scavengers at that

[late pond]

I'm aware but they're also known for eating everything bone and all. But I was replying to the ? presented in his listing bc Hyenas were blank & he didn't know about the Honey Badger. Theres 5000+ replies and it would be like reading a novel so I was asking if they were talked about or not. I was also suggesting Hyenas be a T:6 & Honey Badger be a T: 2 or 3. I think 3 would be appropriate bc they're hardy animals.

[warped grail]

Also tbh, I totally think you can just Thanos snap Vurhonga, explain that you'll deliver something better soon, and add the Zimbabwe and Namibia map

And ffs, have geographically accurate animal choices please. No springbok and lesser kudu in the same map

For species that will be in both maps, I'd have different densities like Namibia having more rhinoceros and Zimbabwe having more elephants and buffalo

@mighty rampart what do you think?

[final current]

I would like to see a map set somewhere in either Tanzania or Ethiopia for the express purpose of having a more suitable map for Lesser Kudu (just in case replacing them on Vurhonga is doable, and I wouldn't mind Eurasian Wigeon being replaced by a waterfowl species found in Southern Africa with a more limited range)

[warped grail]

Ethiopia

More unique

My goal is to have maps that are interesting but also unique enough to justify the devs making them and the customer buying them

So that's

Namibia
Zimbabwe
Ethiopia

Throw in a Cameroon map and all of Africa is basically covered

[final current]

I don't see how Tanzania is somehow less then Ethiopia, they both have unique species that can't be hunted anywhere else and both could easily be set up to stand out from each other

[warped grail]

Well Ethiopia has mountain nyala though Tanzania can work

This is my main reference

https://www.bookyourhunt.com/en/all-animals-in-ethiopia

So an Ethiopian map with a highland section (mountain nyala) and a lower plains section (beisa, gerenuk)

[final current]

Gerenuk are also found in Tanzania

[plucky quarry]

crocodile attacking zebra, hippo attacking crocodile, player going home with 3 trophies

[warped grail]

Tbh, Tanzania would actually be great.

Specifically, I'd base it around Northern Tanzania where many of those endemic plains game species live

In these parts

With these four maps, you could actually fill the safari lodge with actual African species

Actually here's a site that breaks a potential Ethiopian roster down to highlands and lowlands
https://www.northernoperationsafrica.com/hunt-mountain-nyala.html

[late pond]

I'll buy any Map that has a reasonable number of huntable predators. Lions need reworked to not be scardy cats and I'd enjoy them more. Hyenas would be great esp. at night, along with badgers that can attack you like the capri grouse do or even the salt crocs are good ex.'s for the behavior AI.

[mighty rampart]

Would prefer Africa 2 to still be within the southern hemisphere

South Africa
Zimbabwe
Zambia
Malawi
Swaziland
Botswana

Maybe Mozambique

[warped grail]

OH nm

See, I was talking about African maps that'd come after Africa 2.0

My ideal roadmap would be

Zimbabwe: Africa 2.0. This'll be the first one

Namibia: Kalahari plains game

Cameroon: Jungle and savannah hunting. Bongo in the jungle and giant eland in the savannah

Ethiopia: East African plains game as well as upland species like mountain nyala

Those four maps would cover pretty much everything Africa has

[mighty rampart]

Ja,

I’m saying the grand big 5 map should be in Southern Africa

[warped grail]

I think the tigers are rly good at the whole predator thing

They sorta set the whole standard

[late pond]

I agree with ya there 1st encounter actually made me jump just like the salt crocs did. I loved it

[warped grail]

Tho also have moments where they're chilling nearby as that's a thing you see a lot with lions

And also, I'd have behavior variation based on time of day

Like, in day time, if you're both out in the open, no one's gonna try anything, in fact they'll probably book it. But once it gets darker, it's a different story

[mighty rampart]

Day and night behaviour for lions, Hyenas leopards etc would be essential

[late pond]

I didn't mind them they just scare too easily instead of hey back off. Pumas had an early stalk mechanic at first that had that intimidation factor that brought bk memories of my own encounters irl hunting them. Then Tigers blew my mind stalk n fear then pounce, while snow leopards were perfect as I'd expect a lynx to be.

I really want to see these behaviors (natural behaviors) with the predators in this reserve. Sry if I'm a buzz kill to the larger game you all want but I felt it was worth mentioning from a pred hunters view.

[warped grail]

Nah this input is amazing

[late pond]

🤝 Thanks

[warped grail]

Do you guys think Thanos snapping Vurhonga is too controversial in return for better, more bespoke African maps?

[mighty rampart]

No don’t think they need to get rid of it, he’ll they could even just take the map shape and change the flora and terrain slightly and throw new species in and I’d be happy as a new map

[warped grail]

A terrain change would be rad. If I had to choose any of my 4 African map ideas, I'd have it be the Namibia map

A mix of rocky terrain and arid savannah with some dunes for good measure

[late pond]

I'd like to see biome transitions as well Nepal I felt did a fair job going from South to North it was really great to see.

[warped grail]

Oh yeah for sure

My goal is for these 4 Africa maps to feel unique and bespoke. The big problem with Vurhonga is that it feels very mishmashed and poorly researched in terms of geography

I think Namibia would require the least edits to the terrain itself

[late pond]

This to me would be like crack going from one preds domain to another that flows naturally but seperately is a fabulous balance. Plus its very appealing to the eye with prey as well.

[warped grail]

Actually one great idea is to have the need zones of predators change within set regions and have that affect the movement of prey animals

[late pond]

Vurhonga feels like its in open country plains granted it was probably intended to be but Medved I felt more immersion with its atmosphere and terrain structure. Though the culture storyline was really good on Vurhonga where Medved seemed like it lacked in this regard.

[warped grail]

Oh also

Have predator movements affect different predators

Especially with top order predators or more dominant predators such as lions

[late pond]

love it. I actually talked about this in another thread as well talking about rework ai predator behaviors

Also Huxley & I also talked this over and came up with a mechanic for predator hunts along with a few other thread inspirations we managed to piece together a 2nd Ambusher Pack. However I'd like to add on that.

[mighty rampart]

Defiantly something they should consider

[mighty rampart]

Could do the desert area of NW SA next to the Namibian border

[late pond]

Hey Well I have a ? for you if its no trouble. Related to predators what do yall do to hunt them there?? As I said I've never been and there isn't a lot of info about it compared to the popular game most talk about.

I'll get to the point I'm trying to rally folks to encourage more ways to hunt predators in game, since alot of the core game mechanics thus far heavily focus on prey/waterfowl over predator game minus the E-Caller and I'll admit Safari game is not my topic strength.

[leaden wave]

Hyenas and wild dogs are OP all I'm gonna say in terms of tactics used to earn success

[warped grail]

Even waterfowl are kinda broken since they just fly all around the map being super loud

[late pond]

🤣 they keep coming no matter how stressed an area is and when they land, I can plink them point blank w/ a .22 its ridiculous and no fun at all. esp. on RC its really bad.

[late pond]

But no I'm trying to get content and feedback on predator game because I feel they got left out as "they're just their vibe." And its a passion of mine both irl & in-game. Lol someday I'll get my predator lodge. I'd also love to get more multi-mounts both for prey & predators. Birds and prey need more as well it seems options for them are rather limited. On that note this thread is the largest on African game so as a small % pred hunter I wanted to add my feedback so I have something to hunt outside of Lions & Jackels 😅 -

H*** I'd be ecstatic if the existing map added 2 more predators to it.

[warped grail]

I'd say first, add none and just constantly tweek the ones we already have until they're great

[late pond]

Agreed, once they get tweaked with new ai behaviors and re-textures it will be alot better. I just struggle trying to enjoy it as is. Capes & Wildebeests are great but I really struggle enjoying the Savanna as is. It feels bland if that makes sense?!

[warped grail]

Tbh, if I was a hunting game, I'd save Africa until at least 5 DLC maps later
Make the people practically beg for it and then bring it out

[late pond]

True it would be good marketing however wait to long it could cost you.

[leaden wave]

I'd say 2-3 as people are already begging

[warped grail]

I should also add until your team is experienced enough to really deliver

[hardy matrix]

Something else that may have been mentioned here is Land Cruisers with the chairs and rest on the back

[patent agate]

Honestly I love this idea, idk if they'd need to pull it from the store or anything but it'd breathe new life into what's a dead map for a lot of people. I don't think they'd need o alter the story or flavor text, just change the flora and fauna

[leaden wave]

Exactly I think tweaking vurhunga savannah and added a couple to a few new species and changing terrain a bit would really revive the map

[patent agate]

It wouldn't hurt to resting the kudu to impala and cut back on the duck spawns in favor of more impala

[leaden wave]

Impala and like one more antelope species and 1 more predator and if be fine

[patent agate]

Impala, a blesbok or hartebeest of some sort, hyenas or leopards and some changes to the foliage would bring Vurhonga back for me. If they have to keep the stupid ducks at least restrict them to swampy area and near the river

Just plain stupid to be stalking lions with the ambience of a duck farm on loudspeakers in every direction

[leaden wave]

Was thinking Impala or Nyala but a hartebeest would be cool

That way we save greater kudu and eland for this map as well as the sable

[warped grail]

Hartebeest would be cool

My roster for this new Vurhonga would be. Still going for the Namibia/Kalahari vibe to make a distinct, unique African map

Phase 1
Blue and black wildebeest
Greater kudu
Springbok
Gemsbok
Warthog
Lion
Cape buffalo
Black-backed jackal
Scrub hare

Phase 2
Chacma baboon
Red hartebeest
Angolan giraffe
Leopard
Burchell's zebra (or Hartmann's mountain zebra)
Spotted hyena
Cheetah
Ostrich
Helmeted guineafowl

Eventually the two rhino species

So the focus would be on desert/arid animals

Buffalo and any species dependant on water will occur at lower densities than more arid adapted animals like gemsbok

[untold maple]

Western kudu from Chad

you learn something new everyday

[mighty rampart]

Negative these phases are not in a good order- we want the big 5 first. We don’t k ow if a 3rd Africa map would happen before they end development

[warped grail]

Right, good point

[plucky quarry]

Exactly, we want all the popular ones that many people dream of like big 5, crocodiles, hippos, zebra, hyena and others thinking about the last map released this year there are 10 unique animals made on the new map and we know that there shouldn't be another African map, EW should go all out on Africa 2.0 meeting her.

After all, it would be the most profitable DLC, as an example we have the Tiger, put the popular animals in a trailer and see the hype it will generate

[mortal rain]

I wouldn’t mind them doing a plains game centered map, like class 3-9 ungulates exclusively to warm up to Africa and prepare themselves for the Big 5 map.

[late pond]

If I can be frank I want to see all future reserves done as well if not better than Nepal moving fwd. With that said I also would like to see all maps prior refreshed with updated animal behavior ai & textures. Honestly, I don't mind the current reserve terrain feat. however adding 4 seasons weather would be great in par to the animals breeding season behaviors. Plus this in turn can add flavor to new mounts and multi-mounts in our lodges.

[plucky quarry]

Yes, I also want to see improvements in AI, the tiger showed that EW is capable of making dynamic animals, changing climates on the map such as sandstorms, drought, flooding of rivers would be very welcome on a map for large animals like Africa where many are very aggressive.

[mighty rampart]

Amen

[patent agate]

Jeez

Monsoon Season

[warped grail]

@mighty rampart sry about that

I was thinking really far forward

I'd say for this map, I'd at least want

Big 5
Hippo
Croc
Giraffe
Zebra
Impala
Hyena
Sable
Greater kudu (shouldn't be too hard to edit the model from the lesser kudu)

That's 10 fully unique, new animals

[plucky quarry]

ignore the ai bug 😂

[mighty rampart]

No need to apologise we are all allowed our opinions on what we would like to see next

[warped grail]

Tho yeah, for Africa 2.0, I think it should be the map you're suggesting

Also, for animals that are going back in like wildebeest, buffalo, and lion, give them a model revamp

[dire flume]

I wish ew would partner with you to create this exact map and just get your insight since this is the most popular suggestion

[mighty rampart]

I would tune them for nothing, I’m fortunate enough to have collected a wealth of information from my employment. Although I’m very confident that they could give us a realistic and exciting African map from their own efforts

[dire prism]

After Sundarpatan I'm fully confident they could do it, even if it may take 12-18 months

[dire flume]

Ok hear me out they keep doing yearly new maps but during the winter release do a map remaster with some new species and touch up some old maps

[leaden wave]

Not a bad idea and easily doable as it's less programming and only some tweaks as well it would be during the blueprint.stage of a new map so it's not like any devs would be pulled off of the development phase

[lucid flame]

Africa update!

[mighty rampart]

Perhaps even another vurhonga map with slightly different flora, that’s set 20,years ago when the island had big 5 game

[mystic token]

Vurhonga will need a crocodile backfill after a new africa map drops because the river sorrounding the reserve has crocodile warning signs near every bridge leaving the reserve, it would really breathe more life into the map

[mighty rampart]

%100

[viral summit]

I love the idea but i would look out that we not only concentrate on the bigger animals and the big 5. For me its just a part of the game to have smaller animals aswell and some little potentionaly agressive animals like baboons would be awesome too

[mighty rampart]

I want to see some bush this colour

[manic vigil]

only 28 likes from 1000!

[glad loom]

FINAL COUNTDOOOOWN
TARARAAA RAM, TARARATADAM

[untold maple]

DA DA DA DA DA DAAA

[manic vigil]

SWEEEEEEETTTT SWEEEEEEEEEEETTT SWEET VICTORY

[mighty rampart]

Very close

[patent agate]

11 left as of now, can't wait to cross the 1k mark

[mighty rampart]

16*

[patent agate]

People left! Deserters.. . . .

[mystic token]

I made a new map design idea inspired by @main knot 's map drawing style

I didn't want to include too many lakes to keep the plains and savannah really open and flat, a couple watering holes and smaller lakes scattered amongst them while the bigger lakes are towards the mountanous areas, also a river running through a canyon splitting into 2 smaller rivers headed for each of the flatter areas of the map

[patent agate]

How deep is that river? Are we getting boat crossing points or are there places you could wade?

[mystic token]

I was thinking we could have a couple bridges connecting over with some of the islands, some places can have boats and some parts in the 2 river splits could be shallow enough to cross, they could implement crocodiles hunting animals crossing the shallow parts, just like in real life

[patent agate]

I was thinking if we had something like waterbuck then we need an area of swampy ground with tall reeds, could also serve for buffalo or hippo

[mystic token]

I marked a couple different species where they could be found

keep in mind hippos during the night should be leaving the river to go into their feed zones 100-300 metres away just like in real life

[patent agate]

Need that to be a mechanic in the sense that one mission is to kill a bull taking over a crop field

[mortal rain]

I hope we get a few mission animals to actually kill.
Maneating Crocodile, Man killing Hippopotamus, Maneateing lions (Coalition perhaps) and finally… a disruptive old bull elephant would be my picks.

[mystic token]

new great one would definetly be a battle between elephants, greater kudu and honestly even rhinos for me

[patent agate]

I'd we could borrow an idea from Jim Corbett's experiences, a Maneater leopard that caused a village to be abandoned

[main knot]

👀

[dawn dew]

That was a crazy story!

[patent agate]

I could see the same happening in Africa, that or a pack of hyenas

[dawn dew]

What’s impressive about any of these maneaters is just how big some of these cats have been recorded having acquired the marbled meat diet. 😧

[untold maple]

That would be so cool

[untold maple]

I’m in favor of an elephant great one personally

[patent agate]

I've found 2 stories, from a long while ago, about baboons killing and eating toddlers but I can't find a definite location

[untold maple]

Baboons are just the worst

[patent agate]

Without a location I'm not sure the stories are real, one just a South African news story and the other is in Tanzania

[dire prism]

Baboons are terrors

like i like primates a lot but if one of em crosses a line and deadass comes into my house and starts mauling a loved one or a pet it's getting shot

[patent agate]

Baboons are seriously overpopulated in cities, considering how dangerous they are, aren't there culling programs?

[dire prism]

it's sorta teetering, the need for culling is recognized but as it stands olive baboons (the ones were are speaking about) are the only primate on earth with a body mass above 20lbs that isn't endangered

[patent agate]

I mean fine but dam* there's so many attacks you have to wonder how much can happen before someone thinks about human safety

[dire prism]

yup, matter of time tbh

[warped grail]

I think something that'd be great is some miombo woodlands as those are a common fixture of Southern Africa

[warped grail]

In Southern Africa, the baboons are chacma baboons

Also I'd like to see vervet monkeys added if that's possible

[dire prism]

vervets would be cool,

and thanks for the correction, confused them cause they're so similar at a glance

[lucid flame]

i want elephants!

[warped grail]

What would the forest/grass cover of this area be like?

[mighty rampart]

Baboons are basterds

[mystic token]

thicker foresty areas towards the mountains, open savannah in the flat areas with trees sorrounding the lakes and watering holes, like a proper oasis

@mighty rampart what's your take on this concept

[strange viper]

And the river will be pretty shallow i suppose?

[mighty rampart]

Looks awsome, and looks like Africa. River is Awsome lots of nice small drinking zones away from the river. Along with a more mountainous area to the south

[patent agate]

Is that heavy brush like Mississippi Acres or more open woodlands like Emerald Coast?

[mighty rampart]

Looks really good,

[finite iris]

Almost at 1k!!!!!!

[mystic token]

parts of it kinda like we already have in vurhonga in the western part of it, and some parts maybe acacia trees or something

[rancid harness]

TEN MORE LIKES COME ON PEOPLE

[strange viper]

I ''gamified'' your map 😄
Very amateur but I think it looks pretty nice

[mystic token]

I love that, only one change is the island with the little lake on it, I'd love that to be accessible as like a little phenomenon of the reserve, like one of those flag icons for points of interest or whatever they are called

[strange viper]

Moved the POIs on the river a bit
I think there shouldn't be a road leading to it, shallow water should do the trick

Im also still thinking about adding something in the middle part of the map, as it feels a bit empty

[mystic token]

it would be cool like a hidden little paradise oasis which you didn't know you could access until you did

[strange viper]

Final version (atleast for now)

[mighty rampart]

Looks even better, good work!

If your thinking about things to add, we get a lot of old dams here from the 70s that are abandoned/ no longer controlled.

Could be that the southern half of the map has less water and therefore more dry. While the north has a sizeable amount of water and is more lush and green. A dam of course limiting the flow of the river, found in the center of the map

Anyone good at Reserve logos?

Thinking the big 5 all looking outwards from the badge

[strange viper]

That's really cool, I might add some of it in there for variety

[mystic token]

I could try to make a logo once I am home in an hour or two

wait since when are girrafes not part of the big five?

[mighty rampart]

Never had been, which I’ve always found strange.

Leopards and buffalo are not especially large

[final current]

Giraffes don’t go out of their way to kill you if you make a bad shot

[hardy matrix]

What would the actual name of this reserve be, I can make a logo/label for it

[main knot]

*Izilo Zasendulo *

[mystic token]

Bembezi I think

[mighty rampart]

Originally BEMBEZI game reserve

But again it’s all neither here nor there. Want the species the most

[mystic token]

I think it might be hard to stick the entire big 5 inside the logo tho, I feel like elephants should be the main face of the reserve

[patent agate]

How about a pair of crossed tusks for the logo? Maybe some lion footprints around the bottom?

[plucky quarry]

how about something similar to this art i found in artstation- Tiago Oliveira

[main knot]

that looks sweet

[mystic token]

hey I made some changes to the region borders based on how I imagined it while making the map, would love it if you could apply it into your game version map

not sure what to name the mountains so for now they are just unnamed, also these would jdut be the main 6 regions, they would all be split into smaller ones of course, just like in every other map we have in the game

[manic vigil]

only 7 away from 1,000!

[manic vigil]

6!

[ripe palm]

5

[strange viper]

lmk if you'd have any name ideas for the mountains (or anyone else here ofc)

[untold maple]

5 more until 1,000

[mighty rampart]

Let’s go for the Elle’s

[dire prism]

Elephant head flanked by footprints from the four other members of the Big Five

[manic vigil]

3 more!

[strange viper]

2 more

[mystic token]

1 more...

[mortal rain]

This is crazy!!!

[dire prism]

almost there...

[untold maple]

It’s so close…and yet so far😫

[hollow nymph]

Not me 😂

[untold maple]

…. suspicious

[hollow nymph]

You deleted that message no one's gonna believe you now😂

[untold maple]

It didn’t seem right after sending it

[hollow nymph]

Fair, I'm just messing with ya I seen ya in general and I wondered if you would notice

[manic vigil]

1 more!

[dire prism]

or 2 more... again

[manic vigil]

nah we're being messed with

[dire prism]

on God i'm gonna find out who y'all are and dump 550lbs of Surstromming into your living rooms

[mortal rain]

It’s right there!

[dire prism]

🗿 I see you liking and unliking

[hollow nymph]

Someone else doing it with me 😂

[main knot]

it was 1 now 2, WHO IS DOING THIS

[manic vigil]

NOW 3

[mortal rain]

PLEASEEEE

[manic vigil]

C'MON

[hollow nymph]

We hit it watch

[main knot]

YEAH

[mortal rain]

@mighty rampart

[manic vigil]

WE DID IT

1000 LIKES 🗣️ 🔥 🌍 🦁 🐘 🐆 🐃 🦏

[dire prism]

🥳

[hollow nymph]

I claim full credit for that 1000 😂

[main knot]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[torn valve]

PLEASE EW PLEASE

[fading ether]

i wanna take a moment to thank the trolls for making this funny

[dire prism]

cricus music was playin in my brain bruh

[gentle marten]

woohoo!!!

[hollow nymph]

Of course 👏

[fading ether]

spongebob music

[manic vigil]

AND IT'S SWEEEEEEEEEEET SWEEEEEEEEEEEEET SWEET VICTORY!!!!!!!!!

[hollow nymph]

Well see yall at 2000 😂😂

[main knot]

HAHA

[dire prism]

with enough time itll happen lol

[fading ether]

africa 2.0 before amazon map?

[manic vigil]

a good friend of mine was actually the 1001st like lol

[dire prism]

well I mean there is a precedent for hunting in Africa while hunting in brazil is mostly illegal poaching done by loggers and smugglers 💀

[fading ether]

the story contractor should be a drug dealer.

mission #5: fetch the cocaina leaves

[mortal rain]

There’s like three animals that would be above class 4…

[dire prism]

Well, white lipped peccary, black caiman, jaguar, and tapir make four; you could also justify giant anteaters and rhea for 5 or 6

Dont forget the marsh deer as well

[fading ether]

and apes

[gentle marten]

oooh jaguar would be cool..

[mortal rain]

Nope, good try though

[dire prism]

monkeys, the only living apes are in Africa and Asia lol

[fading ether]

capuchin pet, spots animals for you

[dire prism]

could even be backfilled with the tiger system to Rancho since they range up thru Mexico and into the White Mountains in Arizona

[mortal rain]

White lipped peccary Class 3

Rhea Class 3

Black Caiman could arguably be class 3

Tapir Class 6

Jaguar 7

[gentle marten]

oh my LORD

[fading ether]

wait there are jaguars in arizona?

[dire prism]

yes, including a dominant 220lb+ male named El Jefe (The Boss) that regularly hunts and kills adult black bears

[dire prism]

I agree with this except for black caiman being class 3, they should be 5 since adults max out around 1,000lbs and 6m or 20ft in length, which is comparable to an American alligator just not as bulky

Spectacled caiman could def be class 3 tho, maximum adult weight of 90lbs

[fading ether]

el jefe aint piss i can take him

[dire prism]

dawg it killed a 450lb black bear by crushing its skull like a walnut

[fading ether]

nothing an anti-materiel rifle cant kill

[mortal rain]

Nilgai.

[fading ether]

you just need an electonic remote distressed fawn caller :>. I'll make a carpet out of el jefe

[mortal rain]

Distressed cub call

[fading ether]

or just lace some bait food with heroin

[untold maple]

Heck yeah 1,000!!!🎉🎆🎇🎉

And 2

[dusky oak]

This is a legendary moment! 🇬🇳 🐘 🎉

[sleek sorrel]

EW The community has vote, this map will be the next one. 🙏

[plucky quarry]

Unfortunately, I believe that votes don't matter for maps. My theory is that they put those that get more than 200 votes and put them on a roulette wheel. 😭

[mortal rain]

Neither, they take it into consideration, like what they did with EC, based on an old but great map idea, it was transformed into a outback map idea though since EC was announced.

[plucky quarry]

I wish discord had the option to filter by number of votes, curious to know who is the second and third most voted after Africa 2.0

[mortal rain]

Pretty sure it’s https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1070045518002147458

[haughty nimbus]

I'm pretty sure the British Columbia map is third most if we are only talking maps. I won't be rude to Wellington and post it on here but I will bump it up so you can see it.

[dawn dew]

If they do bring Jaguar into play, I’d bet they’d up that class seven to a nine just for how little that first shot is going to be worth in the first few endless seconds. 🫠

[mortal rain]

It really depends on how they want the map to play out, but any lower than Class 7 means they didn’t do their research.

[lucid flame]

Dropping a comment to up this! Also recently started playing the Savanna Map and damn I do love Africa

[glad loom]

ONE THOUSAND LIKES!! This is so surreal to see, and it all started because Jaxy said on one of the streams that we don't make enough noise for Africa 2.0 with Big Five!
We absolutely MADE the noise, and we just might brought the release of this map to a lot sooner than when they were planning to make it!

[dire prism]

I am proud of us as a community for this achievement

[mystic token]

and considering they are currently working on the community weapon pack, assuming they aren't already working on a different new map at the same time, could we have possibly made this map the very next to be added?

[dire prism]

I would place my money on second after next

If they take something this major to heart it's probably a 2+ year project

[glad loom]

That would be nice, even tho I doubt it, cause earlier this year devs said on the stream that they have a roadmap for next year/year and half and Africa 2.0 is not there, so this map might not be the June 2025 map, but I have a HIGH feeling that this will be the June 2026 map and the Arctic Canada will be June 2027

[mystic token]

it better not be, I'm gonna be away for college then and won't be able to play it ☠️☠️

[dire prism]

pain

[mystic token]

gonna rely on flinter videos to experience it

[mortal rain]

I’d swap it personally, Winter 2025 for Arctic and Summer 2027 for Africa makes more sense.

[glad loom]

Jaxy said in one of the streams that Arctic is a new idea, so it's not on the current roadmap, just like Australia was a new idea back in 2019 and wasn't on that roadmap.
Now knowing this current roadmap ends as devs said by the end of 2025, they will make the new roadmap then, and I guarantee both Africa 2.0 and Arctic will be on that.

My guess again, Africa 2.0 in June 2026/27 and Arctic in June 2027/28
We need to embrace the fact that we have some waiting to do 😔

[dire prism]

question is what did they have in store originally, and what are we getting next summer?

[mortal rain]

New?!?!? People have been asking for a Arctic map since atleast 2019?!?!

[dire prism]

I suppose "new" in the sense of an actually consolidated idea instead of children shreiking "give us polar bears!!!!" without any direction or cohesiveness

[mortal rain]

There’s quite a few great ideas across the multiple subreddits which do have EW moderating and always have as far as I’m aware.

[dire prism]

Hm, then i have no idea lol

[glad loom]

I just might have cracked that, back in January 2020, they released a survey and there was one question asking what map would we like to see ...
All in that list happened starting the summer of that year until we got the Asian environment this summer, the only remaining are Africa and Tropical/Reinforest, now if this question was actually their new roadmap, and we know Africa won't happen until 2026, my guess is that the June 2025 map will be Jungle, most likely https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1207357430963507281

(Luckily I took a screenshot of it on my phone before choosing Australia lol)

[glad loom]

Well, I was personally asking for it, but it wasn't as big of a request as it is now

[mortal rain]

Weird that they included Farm alongside New Zealand, despite not having farms on Te Awaroa😂

[dire prism]

very intriguing

Makes me wonder if Sundarpatan with tigers and snow leopards was a preempt for tropical Brazil or Surinames with jaguars, caiman, and tapirs

[glad loom]

Lol yea, and New Zealand literally came out that year in December

[dire prism]

and then SRP and Rancho followed suit along with (now) Sundar to act for semitropical Asia

at least I think I got that order right

[glad loom]

Survey - January 2020
SRP (Rockies) - June 2020
Te Awaroa (New Zealand) - December 2020
Rancho (Desert) - June 2021
Mississippi - December 2021
Revontuli Coast - June 2022
NEM (Appalachian) - December 2022
Australia - June 2023
Sundarpatan (Asia) - June 2024

[dire prism]

ah so slightly backwards from what it was, but that still means somewhere tropical might be next

or they wildcard the hell out of us and hit us with like, the West/Central Asiatic steppe with Argali

[final current]

Sounds like my Central Asia 2.0 Reserve Concept (I called it Central Asia 2.0 because it was a massive remake of another Central Asian Reserve of mine)

[dire prism]

would be absolutely fire, Argali are a bucket list animal for me

[finite iris]

We finally made it guys

[mighty rampart]

Will write something to celebrate the 1000 at some point today,

Exactly, we’re the loudest voice here, by miles

[mortal rain]

So, I’ve been thinking about elephant respawn times?
How long do we all think it should be? Maybe a few hours, taking into the fact elephants take YEARS to get to the point where a permit might be issued? But that’s just a thought.

[mighty rampart]

Think that given tigers are at 30m we should go for 15-20

[mortal rain]

I completely forgot tigers had a 15 minute respawn time, they made it seem like it was wayyyy longer. That’s fair.

[mighty rampart]

I’d even argue that elephants don’t need a respawn time, they’re legally shot over most of Southern Africa.

[rain solar]

Oooo. Look at that. Over 1000 up votes. Well done everyone! 🎉

[finite iris]

💯

[plucky quarry]

They have already started working on the map because it has a larger scope, that's for sure, modeling and animating weapons is not difficult, so it should take a back seat in their dev cycle, the focus over the course of a year is on animals and the map (that's what every studio does), we can only hope they're doing Africa 🙏

I can assume that the game will still receive 3 maps in its lifetime, 1 we don't know, Arctic and Africa 2.0 🤔

[sick zodiac]

1010

[main knot]

I'm patient, I go fishing 😂

[hardy matrix]

I missed it but 1k!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dire flume]

What surprise do you have for 1000 @mighty rampart you said you had something a while back

[untold maple]

…Let the man cook

[dusky oak]

Just some cool art to help celebrate 1017 likes 😎💪

[patent agate]

Gotta borrow one of these for the Roosevelt pack thread, thank you!

[mighty rampart]

Gentlemen the big number has been achieved,

1000 upvotes is no small number

We were told, many months ago on stream by Jaxi, that they didn’t think we wanted another Africa map, and that we did not make enough noise. We were not going to take that and therefore took action.

6 months on we have made a lot of noise, which is all down to all of your discussion, debate and discourse on this suggestion posts. We are now the loudest part of the community, let’s keep this up.

Thanks to all of you, we have made a massive impact on the communtiy, Africa 2 is brought up by many people during live streams, some are even making more suggestions for different areas on the continent such as the Cameroon.

The regulars who are often here deserve a mountain of praise, keeping the discussion flowing and igniting it with further suggestions and ideas.

Over the coming week we will make more noise on stream, let’s here what Jaxy has to say about our momentous goal.

Keep up the good work, let’s say 2000 by Christmas?

-Wellington out

🇿🇦🇧🇼🇿🇼🇿🇲

[patent agate]

Hey, can we get a Mod in here to pin Wellington's comment? A good speech oughta be recorded for posterity

[patent agate]

Thank you!

[mystic token]

that speech got me feeling like

[strange viper]

Bringing up the concept map again
Does anyone have a suggestion for region names? Mainly the two unnamed mountains 😅

[mighty rampart]

Map looks Awsome now, I’ll have a think today

[patent agate]

For the mountain at the bottom of the map, how about Bembezi? It was the original name of this map idea which has become so much more in such a short time.

By the way, at least one of those camps better be named after Wellington he started this campaign so he deserves some credit

[mystic token]

wondering what people think bout having an over kilometre long rope bridge across the entire canyon from one end to the other

[patent agate]

Honestly? Yeah, why not, it adds something on the map that would make for an interesting land mark and potential long and difficult shots. Besides, rope bridges are In several maps already so it's not a foreign concept

[mighty rampart]

Would be an Awsome landmark

[mighty rampart]

Consider the dam, and perhaps some abandoned lodge structures on the map, story could be from old farmsteads that existed before the fences were taken down and the wildlife was reintroduced

[mystic token]

maybe a dam here with the water behind it raised to the next marked elevation level, about 10 metres higher than the rest of the river

and it explains why the rest of the river is inside that mini canyon inside the big canyon, the smaller one used to all be filled with water until the dam was built

[patent agate]

You could have a broken dugout canoe along the canyon wall below the dam to show a little human history in the area, like the cave painting in Vurhonga.

"Consider this proof that hippos have always been dangerous, be careful my friend " sort of lines from the Warden

[hallow sail]

I could totally see hyenas being a class 5 animal. Since most deer species are four and hyenas are quite big.

With the story missions, if rhinos were added as well (or just leave elephants) it could follow the path of poachers who want ivory or a rhinos horn. Definitely a real issue.

[mystic token]

already exists in vurhonga, the last rhino

[hallow sail]

Oh, my apologies. I never completed vurhonga’s missions.

[glad loom]

That loos cool! But I think a map like this should be a little bigger than that, cause it is once in a life undertaking

[strange viper]

I'm aware that the scaling isn't exactly 1:1, it's just a proof of concept I'd say

Other factors play to this such as the icons being a bit bigger than usual and the roads using thicker lines

[mighty rampart]

Think south should e the drier part, perhaps dam could have a road running over the top of it, as marked on the lower part of the river

[dawn dew]

Or a Zipline. 🤷‍♂️

[mighty rampart]

No harm in making another anti poaching themed set of missions,

Perhaps this time highlighting the differences between substance poaching and commercial.

Most people putting down snares are just trying to feed themselves

-Have a few missions about finding giraffe and hippo snares.

-Reaching a mountain to report gunshots

-following poachers tracks again to poachers kitchens

-finding rhino horn stash/ illegal firearms

-checking fences for break ins

And if they could animate it- freeing some small game from snares

[ripe palm]

Who is Jaxy and why do we care about him/her?

[glad loom]

I was gonna ask you, how many elephants and how many rhinos you think should be on the map? Should they be in all of the map or like Tigers on Nepal in certain part of the map

[stuck trench]

Community manager that does the streams and a lot of other stuff here on discord

so the face of the company basically

[mystic token]

maybe adding a special mission with a tranquilazer gun to release some higher class animal from a snare

[ripe palm]

Interesting

[stuck trench]

is it?

[buoyant cosmos]

I can say for certain that the Terai region in game is not at all the proper habitat for Indian Rhinos. They prefer open grasslands and agricultural fields, not dense jungles with sparsely pocked open areas.

[plucky quarry]

Male elephants are aggressive and solitary, I would put 6 elephants spread across the map as it would be really challenging, miss a vital shot and get crushed or hit 🐘 and take the glory of the trophy

[buoyant cosmos]

Better idea would be 2 or 3 female only herds, and 6 or 7 solo bulls that wander the map by themselves.

[plucky quarry]

I agree, it would be dynamic like that

[patent agate]

Bulls in territories and herds wandering? Could be interesting

[plucky quarry]

a small edit to the tropy lodge would allow adding class 10 easily, I believe here it is 4 meters high, enough for elephant and hippo.

[patent agate]

Pool table we can't play pool on? Or life size bull elephant? Don't think that's much of a choice in the end lol

For idiot who DMd me. Yes, elephant.

[mortal rain]

The main room is arguably plenty of space for class 10, they’d just need to change up the mounts a bit.

[plucky quarry]

hunters: umm, I want to put my animals here
game: no way, settle for this useless pool table
hunters:

[patent agate]

Honestly? If you can get over the fence outside the lodge there's a ton of empty space that could be expanded on for a larger trophy hall

[mighty rampart]

Keep them mixed, maybe a similar limit to tigers for rhinos.

No limits for elephants, but maybe less zones than normal.

[mighty rampart]

Not quite right, only aggressive when in musk. Young males tend to form small groups

[main knot]

I do think they could go aggressive, as a "fun" thing

[plucky quarry]

exactly, for gameplay context

[untold maple]

Getting charged by an elephant would be crazy cool for the game

[mighty rampart]

Absolutely happens if you get close enough to them.

They have a 20m fight zone. (Rough average)

So get within that and you have a fairly good chance at getting mock charged

This is typically where most shots are taken irl

[manic vigil]

got me feelin like:

hunters together strong typa deal

or Call of the Wild together strong idk lmao

[warped grail]

@mystic token see what languages are spoken in Southern Zimbabwe

[mighty rampart]

Something like that

[manic vigil]

yeah

[untold maple]

Elephants are gonna be so much fun

[patent agate]

What do y'all think of vervet or green monkeys as a class 1? They be like raccoons on Mississippi Acres, causing a little mischief here and there but otherwise just a unique small game animal running around

[mighty rampart]

I despise vervets with a passion, throw em in as class one and let me use the nitro on them

[patent agate]

Not something I expected to hear from you if I'm honest. . .

Are they that bad?

[mortal rain]

2 seems fine, most take them with .22-250 and .243 it seems.

[dire prism]

i've heard them described as baboon but smaller and more evil

[patent agate]

A monkey with Napoleon Syndrome? Now I'm gonna have to look up more about them

[dire prism]

I gather their behavior basically makes them a south african macaque since they steal people's stuff, break into homes to steal their stuff, and I think attack children sometimes

nothing super serious but they'll like bite a baby

and again, to reiterate what I've said about baboons, any monkey that bites my hypothetical child is gonna get punted into the sun

[patent agate]

I just found a handful of accounts of them hanging around camps like rats and figured it would be a fun small game animal you'd see in groups

[dire prism]

well i mean it would be a fun small game animal regardless, they're just annoying little bastards IRL

[patent agate]

All the more reasons to include them

[untold maple]

Yes

[patent agate]

Wasn't expecting people to immediately go to class 2 with buckshot and the. 243 tho, they look small enough for a .22

[untold maple]

They’re surprisingly tough animals. I’ve seen one tank a hit from a 270 before….not for very long but still

[patent agate]

Fair enough, I don't really mind what class they are just had an idea for smaller game

[mighty rampart]

Yeah, they’re error, always breaking into stuff and shutting everywhere. Attacking people etc

Horrible things

[buoyant cosmos]

Kinda like the Baboons? I hear they’re a massive issue in South Africa, tearing up shingles and breaking into kitchens.

[mighty rampart]

Worse than baboons, by a good stretch.

[buoyant cosmos]

Jesus…they’re really that bad. And I thought that the Raccoons and Skunks here were pests.

[hasty yew]

I like this idea very much but i think the reason they dont wanna make it because "it will inspire people to go kill those animals and blah blah" but would be very cool if they added elephants and giraffes

[patent agate]

That used to be their excuse,but you know

Tigers

Snow leopards

[hasty yew]

Yeah but with these we would need new weapons to kill a god damn elephant

[patent agate]

Well, we're getting a .375 in the winter update and we have a .470 nitro express so we'll have weapons.

.470 might actually see some use as something other than a meme weapon

[hasty yew]

Would be good just if they dont add som bows that can kill an elephant🤣

And i hate to br a guy like this but why does literally any weapon/map gotta be a dlc

[mortal rain]

Money.

[mortal rain]

Well….

[patent agate]

Well sh*t, nevermind then I guess. . .

[mortal rain]

We have .470, 9.3, .454, and all the bows… we don’t need much else other than a few high caliber bolt actions and a couple lever actions (.458LOTT, .416 Rigby, .318 Westley Richards, .585 Nyati, .405 Winchester, etc etc)

[patent agate]

That's enough that I don't think I'm gonna bother with the update. I haven't played much at all since Sundarpatan came out and ruined my save so if they aren't at least doing something to fix it then I might as well uninstall

[mighty rampart]

No one is going to be inspired to blow $30,000 on a hunting trip to sa by playing the hunter COTW.

Don’t be silly

That’s on level with saying GTA makes children shoot people.

It’s just bollocks

But even if someone was inspired to hunt in Africa. How’s that bad? The money going into the reserves keeps them going and keeps a haven for the species there.

[mortal rain]

They changed their stance on that almost a year ago, it’s a silly thought.

[untold maple]

Bow hunting elephant is a real thing

[patent agate]

Idk if you play way of the hunter but if you do, what did they get right about Africa that vurhonga didn't? If anything?

[hasty yew]

I mean it would be cool shooting a diamond elephanz

[hallow sail]

New idea for a multi mount!! Similar to the lions and the Cape buffalo, have it be an elephant instead. Maybe throwing a lion in the air with their tusks?

[hasty yew]

Yra

[ripe palm]

Just a dime bull standing on a lions head 😆

[fair scroll]

Bad idea

[lucid flame]

Should they introduce new guns for the big 5?

[mortal rain]

Yeah, that’s kind of a necessity.

[dire prism]

Opinion: replace FMJs for brass solids with the .470 and buff it

Add either a .600 NE double rifle for the gigantic stuff or one of the huge belted/unbelted magnum cartridges, like .416 weatherby or .416 rigby

[lucid flame]

We already have the caliber weapons for them the problem is they are underpowered with small punch power.