🦡︴cotw-scotland

[kindred jetty]

Next week is the bird drop livestream

Thatll be a huge one.

[midnight moon]

No eiders 😦 ima go cry now

Welp looks like im only hunting tufteds

[ivory arch]

people who know the photo:💀
people who don't:😂

[quick grail]

I do love the indirect callout Ron did at Cash with seeing the lynx haha

[sudden ginkgo]

all the lynx

[acoustic elbow]

@stiff leaf the truncated ammo is for the 22LR

[stiff leaf]

bet

[unkempt condor]

I just finnished watching the stream

Looks like lynx are gonna be easier to hunt

[carmine mason]

ok good

[vapid garden]

borderless fullscreen is officially the best thing in this update

[stiff leaf]

whats the diff between borderless full and regular full

[acoustic elbow]

The new resting animations are cool

[vapid garden]

borderless is superior

[stiff leaf]

BORB GO PECC GROUND

[stiff leaf]

very much helpful

[vapid garden]

also in fullscreen when you alt tab out sometimes your task bar stays so you have to tab out again and re-tab back in to fix it

[stiff leaf]

yea

[midnight moon]

Man I don’t like this. I think people might be right and they aren’t going to tell us what the new GO is. How to choose what to start grinding?!?!? Ugh.

[stiff leaf]

They never gave us information about previous great ones

always kept it a mystery

[acoustic elbow]

Hope I'm not breaking rule J, but someone using cheats/mods will find out in the first day

[stiff leaf]

took us a few days for the red deer great one...

[midnight moon]

This is sad but probably true.

[midnight moon]

Yea but the red one was found fast because of the issue with dead ones spawning on maps.

[vapid garden]

what if the new GO isn't even on Revontuli hehe

[midnight moon]

Probably take the next month to learn how to herd manage brown bear. Risky but I just feel like if it’s on the new map it’s brown bear.

[vapid garden]

I mean elk were the most requested

[dusk creek]

I thought moose was the most requested?

[midnight moon]

Moose won until they put elk on the survey then elk won pretty handily

[dusk creek]

Hmm interesting

im assuming Roosevelt elk

?

[midnight moon]

I think they just listed it as elk.

[dusk creek]

Breh

Id imagine roosevelt elk…. If theyre mainly getting all of the non-dlc animals out of the way

Would be a pain tho…. For me roosevelt elk so hard to find a lot of

and only one map

[midnight moon]

Who knows. After this clues season the one thing I’ve learned is you just can’t predict what’s coming.

[dusk creek]

I have a gold mela roosevelt and an albino but i have yet to get a diamond

Everytime i go on my map the elk are just in the worst places…. Unless i go on multiplayer

GO elk sounds awesome tho

I want a battle scarred great one

We got normal white tail and a magical fairy plant deer but give me a scary looking one

[midnight moon]

Yea seems like there is a lot of evidence it could be brown bear. At least I really think that’s what it’s going to be. But brown bear are paywalled. Only thing going against it.

[dusk creek]

Ye

Id rather have a non antlered one

rather have a mix of antler/horn species and predators

GO alligator/or croc if we get an african map

[midnight moon]

If it’s brown bear they’d likely make medved base game or free. They just wouldn’t do a paywall go rn.

[dusk creek]

I know thats why i thought it was moose

But ever since TK was like “where it is”

Ive been confused

A GO moose would be evil tho….

I swear if it has plants on it

[midnight moon]

No way to get sales numbers but there is a slight chance that making medved makes financial sense in that a brown bear gets people to buy the game. If medved sales are low enough. Just a long shot.

[dusk creek]

GO bear sounds cool

I wish bears were more aggressive

especially since this map is coming out

Idk the only carnivores that really pose any threat are wolved

Ive never been charged by a lion or a bear since ive played this game

Even when im easily close enough to them

[midnight moon]

I keep looking at this picture. Beyond the word play bears are not that big in game rn. That’s at least an 11’ bear.

[dusk creek]

Honestly cant tell….. but the brown bears were definitely scaled bigger in the stream

[midnight moon]

And I can’t tell if they were hinting at the lighting effects, veg of the new map and the multiplayer updates in this picture. If they were there is a chance they were hunting at the next go too.

[dusk creek]

Wasnt there also a picture with a moose track in it hinting towards go moose too?

[midnight moon]

I mean if you figure the people are 6’ that bear is almost twice their size.

Yea in the clues. Definitely points to moose pretty heavy. But it was also medved. Depends if the tracks were intentional or not.

You’d have to assume they were but who knows.

[dusk creek]

I mean what point is there to not do that if you were hinting

[midnight moon]

Just lots of conflicting stuff. Could go either way. It’s just suspicious they chose medved and brown bear for that ny pic.

[dusk creek]

Idk right now id say moose GO is at a 75% and Brown bear GO at 25%

[midnight moon]

Well the point would be it’s a pic of medved again.

Yea calling brown bear is risky. I immediately went brown bear after the teaser. Brown bear are seen as sacred in Finland and huge to their history.

Then started finding potential tie ins like that ny pic.

[dusk creek]

🐻

Interesting

So its a potential to be

Moose is an obvious one
Brown bear also possible
Elk, which apparently is possible now

Its funny that possibly one day layton would have 3 GO on it

[midnight moon]

I wouldn’t count on elk yet. After the map releases I don’t think the surveys are for roadmap planning

[dusk creek]

Ye

[midnight moon]

I think it helps them gauge how the community will receive the things coming. But I don’t think it’s foremost a way to plan the roadmap.

Bear were also on that survey.

[dusk creek]

Im not looking forward to the point where we all have to figure out in game what the GO is lol

[midnight moon]

Yea I figured it would take a while and be a grind for people. But someone did bring up cheaters finding it fast and the thought of that really sucks.

[warm basin]

Someone will get it as an initial spawn they always do

[dusk creek]

Its simultaneously really fun to discover and annoying lol

[quaint lintel]

Just pretending I'm there already xD

[midnight moon]

Well I think the annoying part is you could grind thousands of the wrong species.

[dusk creek]

Most ppl would grind moose tho

Or brown bear

Which will be funny if its not one of those

[midnight moon]

Would be cool if EW did something like the comp they did a few months back and gave a prize away for the first person to get one. Just say the species and race to claim the first.

[warm basin]

They always do

[midnight moon]

They do? I’ve never heard of that.

People won prizes for the first go ?

[warm basin]

They get a role in the discord

[midnight moon]

Oh that’s right

[languid wedge]

Hjonk

[glacial summit]

I love this idea except for mods

Not moderator mods modification mods

[lunar crag]

Can't you see there is something called distance between the hunters and the bear

[stiff leaf]

whats distance

[midnight moon]

Not sure what this response is about but sure. If you feel it’s a matter of perspective then by all means.

[mighty dove]

But that’s the funnest part!

If only they would take out initial spawns

[kindred jetty]

Finland folk mythology has this... Otso Ohto (there are several names) as the King of The Forest.

[stiff leaf]

lol wut

[frail tusk]

I highly doubt we'd get that lol

[kindred jetty]

Just saying the bear is a big thing in folk tales

I honestly think a GO of an animal with no distinctive look would be a bit of a waste until after we got all horned/antlered done first.

Now if they came with a Great One Pack... say Moose, Elk, and Bear... then another pack of Mule, Blacktail, Lynx... I'd be OK with that

Unless if the bear is the next GO and it's not Moose... perhaps some amazing skin

Because I'm honestly surprised they didn't make the Mocha Moose into a GO... hear some legend about it through questing and it just be this extremely rare spawn in Te Awaora

I feel that was a missed opportunity there

[vivid cosmos]

GO bear

We will get a bloody velvet moose tho

That's my guess

[vapid garden]

Moose are already an extremely rare spawn on te awaroa

I got a common one (not the mocha mission one) a while back

[kindred jetty]

I've never seen one

Just the quest one

[unkempt condor]

Like you said

Extremely rare

[vapid garden]

ye if someone managed to get a diamond on te awaroa that'd be insane

[stiff leaf]

they are a bugged spawn

its always a level 4

always a gold

always those same rack shapes

its just the mocha moose minus the mocha

there can NEVER be a diamond moose.

[vapid garden]

Didn't know that

would be neat if that was a thing though

[vivid cosmos]

I should've read the chat first

It would be cool if the mocha stayed in the map if you didn't killed it

[unkempt condor]

Yeah

[quaint lintel]

Potential Brown Bear great one lol

[dusk creek]

GO bear would probably just be a scared bear.... or a brown bear thats dark grey with scara

while also being huge

[vivid cosmos]

Maybe for the new GO it's not even going to be about the antlers anymore

[lunar crag]

What the actual fuck

did a bear decide to crossbreed with an albino deer?

Cool drawing nonetheless

[karmic void]

lo

lol

[stiff leaf]

read the chat more

[lunar crag]

Oh god

[stiff leaf]

scroll above

[kindred jetty]

look it up bud... finland folk tale

[lunar crag]

yeha I read the messages above

[stiff leaf]

I'm watching deadpool with my dad and told my mom its elmo's world

so thats my evening

didnt mention finland to him

yet

[lunar crag]

lmao

[warm basin]

So mountain hare is another name for snow hare

[queen vigil]

is there any word yet on when Revontuli will be released?

[uneven bloom]

Nope

[queen vigil]

thats what i thought thanks

[inland night]

So I heard that there gonna be licenses in the update is that tru?

[uneven bloom]

Not true.

[inland night]

Good

[glacial summit]

Did reddit tell you this?

[mighty dove]

You’re gonna need a drivers license to drive the four wheelers

[vivid cosmos]

Licenses don't work cause most trophy animals are tied up to spawning mechanics

Well actually all the trophy animals

You would have to pay for 100 or maybe 1000 animals to get a diamond

[quaint lintel]

Wikipedia did xD

[glacial summit]

Fr

[vivid cosmos]

Imagine buying grinding licences

[glacial summit]

Imagine grinding cause the way you set up your game is lowkey hot trash

[vivid cosmos]

Yeah I hate grinding, that's why I love classic

[glacial summit]

Classic kinda boring though no cap

[quaint lintel]

Lodges.

[glacial summit]

Not as boring as cotw has been recently though

[vivid cosmos]

You are allowed to have an opinion... Even if it's wrong

Jk

Jk I promise

[glacial summit]

Naw idc

If you enjoy it good for you

There isn’t really a right under the context of this situation

[vivid cosmos]

True that

[quaint lintel]

This map honestly is gonna be my walk around, realistic hunting map, I'm not gonna grind anything on it, no diamonds no Great one (won't mind coming across one on accident) it's a type of map that every time I play, I'm just gonna go walking and hunt whatever I see considering that there are 19 species

[vivid cosmos]

Classic is old and CoTW odd

[vivid cosmos]

If I decide to buy it I'll enjoy running around with the caciatore

[gaunt storm]

That's how play normally

[quaint lintel]

That's how I used to play my first 2 years ... just walking around and shooting random ... that's why I only got my first diamond after 2 years of playing lol, but It was fun, I remember how I shot a bear and taxidermy it thinking WOW I got a bear in this game!! tho it was only a bronze female xD still have her displayed in my very first memory lodge from 2019

[gaunt storm]

That's why i play it that way. It gives diamonds more meaning

That and better immersion

[quaint lintel]

That's how I'm gonna play this new map, like I used to before, not knowing the map, where am I going, what am I gonna come across... matter of fact, I might not even watch the next stream to not spoil for me anymore

[gaunt storm]

Brilliant

I know that if i ever get a GO, it will be either an elk or a mulie. So, if it's a moose with this map, ain't happening for a while

[midnight moon]

im in the opposite camp. i think this map is going to be like mexico and be a perfect grind map - especially with so few big game species.

seeing the map today made me think its ripe for a good setup.

[gaunt storm]

I might "grind" waterfowl

Only because blinds decoys and calls are the way to hunt em

[midnight moon]

i love mississippi for realism. best map in the game for it rn i think.

[gaunt storm]

Irl

[quaint lintel]

I can imagine your excitement if we get a duck species added to it with this update

[midnight moon]

well scratch that...add yukon to the realism. thats a perfect spot and stalk map.

[quaint lintel]

Yukon is my top 1 map out of all 11 ... 2nd SRP, 3rd Vurhonga, 4th Layton and 5th Medved

[midnight moon]

my only complaint with yukon is the draw distance. i know the challenges with making the spot distance farther, but with that map i wish they could.

would be awesome spotting something in the mountains and stalking it for 1km or more.

[quaint lintel]

If they add Northern Lights at night and Dall Sheep in the mountains to Yukon, I will not play any other map!

[glacial summit]

Yukon ftw bby

[glacial summit]

Bro they better add northern lights to yukon at some point or ima gonna have to fight someone

@last cloaks take notes

Now you tell me im pinging someone

[uneven bloom]

always put a space after an @ if you don't actually want to ping someone

[glacial summit]

Yeah usually tells me im about to ping someone but this time it was like nah

Noted for next time tho

[sudden ginkgo]

@ everyone

[mighty dove]

I’ll do it without a space

[quaint lintel]

Imagine this ... Your playing on Yukon at night, stalking a Grizzly bear, it's all lit up because the night sky is filled with Northern lights, and you hear Grey Wolves howling to those lights far in the distance! ... I would literally stop playing other maps xD

[glacial summit]

Ok

[quaint lintel]

And you know there are Dall Sheep in the mountains!

[glacial summit]

bet

[glacial summit]

THATS WHAT IM SAYIN

[mighty dove]

I’d do it if I knew the bot wouldn’t get on me

[glacial summit]

Tuff

[mighty dove]

Oh

My heart belongs to Barry

[glacial summit]

Don’t pull the logs on that

[glacial summit]

barry?

[mighty dove]

Don’t tell Beegul

Barry B. Benson

[quaint lintel]

Wait... does it rly tag everyone if you do @ everyone?

[mighty dove]

No

[glacial summit]

lmfaooo

[quaint lintel]

Phew

[glacial summit]

You are making this tuff

[mighty dove]

But the bot will get on you I think

[glacial summit]

cause now I wanna tell beegul

[mighty dove]

[sudden ginkgo]

@mighty dove

[mighty dove]

You know what

[glacial summit]

Lmao

[mighty dove]

Leave me like this

[quaint lintel]

Bruh, I just noticed it 😂

[mighty dove]

I will take it

[sudden ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-gif-22148514

[quaint lintel]

Can you believe that everyone is typing rn in this chat!!

[mighty dove]

This is the new me

no

Nnooo

[atomic dawn]

The bopsicle#6784 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[mighty dove]

Put me back D:

[glacial summit]

What the fuck cashnip

[mighty dove]

LMAO

[quaint lintel]

Uuuuu

He said it again, uuuuuu

[glacial summit]

Im just about to ping little and you switch the name

And I get flagged

[sudden ginkgo]

we will participate in a minuscule amount of tomfoolery

[mighty dove]

Eat crap and die son

[glacial summit]

Abuse of power

[glacial summit]

Thats what Im sayin!

[quaint lintel]

At this point... I'm betting my lodge that you own a cat irl xD

[sudden ginkgo]

I might

[glacial summit]

Can confirm he does

Have seen pictures

[sudden ginkgo]

She is fat and lazy

[quaint lintel]

Good bet! Yea I can tell sometimes without even knowing fs xD

[quaint lintel]

Yet she still looks like a Lynx right?

[sudden ginkgo]

Not really, no

[midnight moon]

did you name her garfielda?

[mighty dove]

Umm, Mr. CashNIp, but this is the Finland chat so your cat talk needs to be taken to #🦝︴off-topic

[glacial summit]

Friggin smokt

[quaint lintel]

Good, otherwise you wouldn't slaughter more lynx In cotw then there are alive irl xD

[mighty dove]

nOw bAcK on ToOpic

[mellow barn]

! purge 1k

[mighty dove]

Pic I didn’t mean it

[sudden ginkgo]

! purge entire chat

[mighty dove]

sweats

Quick someone talk about Ravioli Reserve

[sudden ginkgo]

Your soul has pasta-way

[uneven bloom]

🤣

[quaint lintel]

You know what's blowing my mind?! We can't talk about cotw in off topic chat because it's off topic, but if it is off topic, doesn't that mean it's fine to talk about it in off topic chat?! 🤯

[mighty dove]

My blood stream is made out of Alfredo sauce

[uneven bloom]

this channel always dissolves into chaos when the reveal happens

[mighty dove]

It means you can’t talk at all or you die

Stop

Don’t talk

No typing

good job

okay now you can talk

[quaint lintel]

Fact: My comment in this chat was last during Mississippi before it closed just to be opened again for Finland.

[midnight moon]

you missed an opportunity for saying you have spaghetti veins. so sad.

[mighty dove]

Now I am hungry

😦

[sudden ginkgo]

we did it ladies and gents

mission accomplished

[mighty dove]

I can’t wait to hunt for the new GO when the new map releases

[quaint lintel]

Moose ofc

[uneven bloom]

I'm going to scream if I end up finding it by accident when I move my WT grind there

[midnight moon]

oh, but what species shall you start with?

[sudden ginkgo]

we will partake in a minuscule amount of moose massacre

[mighty dove]

what if you find both GOs

[sudden ginkgo]

I’m going right for the lynx, there’s no ifs, ands, or buts

[midnight moon]

and they are different species?!?!?!?!

[mighty dove]

Yes

Diff species

[uneven bloom]

that'll be all my RNG luck for this year if so

[mighty dove]

I’d probably come to your house and steal your computer

[quaint lintel]

I was hoping we might get red deer on this map too ... Imagine the chance of spawning 3 different GO on one map

[midnight moon]

i took you more for a "populate my map with lynx so i can look at them and not kill them" type of guy.

[sudden ginkgo]

piebald lvl 2 female lynx vs a 10-fabled moose bull

im taking the lynx without hesitation

the moose can die in a creek for all I care

[midnight moon]

im thinking about grinding medved for the next month to learn how to herd manage brown bear.

[sudden ginkgo]

Problem. what herds?

[midnight moon]

pretty sure im wrong. i dont think ive ever guessed correctly in clues season...but i like to go against the grain.

[midnight moon]

exactly. so gotta figure it out.

[sudden ginkgo]

im pretty sure brown bears don’t form herds

[midnight moon]

how do you make the big ones bigger? how do you populate the map? how do you setup?

[quaint lintel]

I always wondered, what exactly, or how did you fell in love with Lynx overall? ... how did it all start?

[sudden ginkgo]

I have always had a love of cats. And at the time my obsession began, lynx were the only smol-ish cat in the game

[quaint lintel]

Wow, well, makes sense, especially if you own a cat yourself. What cat species would top Lynx for you if they get added? ... because I'm assuming bobcat didn't top Lynx for you.

[sudden ginkgo]

Eurasian lynx were my first love

[quaint lintel]

So nothing... gotcha... that's a true love right there!

[sudden ginkgo]

Bobcats are second place

[ashen pine]

He certainly loves (to kill) them

[quaint lintel]

Is it true you have a super rare Lynx? 👀

Like Mela, Piabald, Albino diamond

[ashen pine]

He has two

[quaint lintel]

That's insane! Bruh, I was just taking a guess asking lol ... I think having even one super rare Lynx wins the game

[acoustic elbow]

Is the 22LR truncated cone supposed to be the equivalent for the polymer tip?

[sudden ginkgo]

Piebald and albino

[bold coyote]

More or less yea

[acoustic elbow]

Cool

[quaint lintel]

Ok, when we get a GO Lynx, I'm gonna ask everyone in all chats to not grind for it!! Only you're allowed to find him first at this point.

[bold coyote]

I second this sentiment

[quaint lintel]

Bruh, I can't even find a diamond Lynx ... hopefully on this new map

[sudden ginkgo]

Search the entire map

And “entire map” is no joke

[quaint lintel]

Do they drink literally everywhere?

[sudden ginkgo]

Yes

My single-biggest piece of advice is to leave no stone unturned

[bold coyote]

Medved right?

[sudden ginkgo]

Yea

[quaint lintel]

You think the drink zones' disappearing will happen with this update?

[sudden ginkgo]

Almost certainly

[bold coyote]

I cant find shit of that map lol. Need to take the time to learn it properly

[quaint lintel]

I better hurry ... tho I bet I'm gonna find one diamond after grinding this whole map on Medved and one the first day on the new map lol

[bold coyote]

Best of luck man

[daring osprey]

My opinion is the new great one is going to be a brown bear since in the teaser they showed only a brown bear and it looked to be larger than normal

[midnight moon]

Maybe

[raven kernel]

can i get help my tracks don't appear

[dire hollow]

#882552595745484801

[sinful vale]

Did we get loadouts? Or not?

Just asking cuz I only saw a short part of the stream

[hidden quest]

we didn’t

[midnight moon]

I still laugh to the ravioli coast

Or the Ravioli Reserve

[clever oar]

Not the ravioli 💀😭

[spring minnow]

Gonna have lots of fun listening the maps name pronunciations 😄

I hope they chose some very hard Finnish words there too

Some areas seemed to be in English yesterday tho. That seemed a bit weird

[midnight moon]

Ravioli is gonna haunt everyone for a long time

[tawdry wing]

troll's crack

if they rename that I ain't buying

[spring minnow]

At least translate it. Peikon vako 😄

the more you know

Honestly that 100% can be a place here. Let me google lol

People aren't too serious when they name places 😄

[jagged goblet]

What are the confirmed species

[spring minnow]

They are pinned

[inland night]

One region is literally called Raamen so ravioli and ramen

[tawdry wing]

I am sorry

[midnight moon]

😄

[midnight moon]

🥲

[glad abyss]

This hurts me

[midnight moon]

My brain hurts

[stiff leaf]

should've made the ducks just ravioli with wings

[tawdry wing]

are you challenging me

[stiff leaf]

yes

he is level 60, so whats this about

no skills/perks set up?

also what happened to jaxy

Also I am noticing that TK doesn't investigate the meese, so maybe they don't want to show us something

[frail tusk]

ratatouille coast

[stiff leaf]

One slight complaint about the map is that there isn't any snow

also the animal icon's aren't to their usual quality

they look blocky

The animal models however are stunning

super excited

[stoic rune]

I mean the map isn't completely done so they probably will fix it before it gets released

[uneven bloom]

ye dev builds can cause weirdness

[dusk creek]

Considering the distance between reveal to launch date with their latest reserves

id say the wait time isnt huge despite this map being bigger and more animals.

Id say the rest of may will pass and we will get this map in the first week. or the next one after that

The wait times have never really been SUPER long

[sharp mango]

Anyone else notice that moose will not have the normal 8-12 or 9-13 drink time, TK picked up a rest zone that said 8-12

[peak cedar]

That’s probably due to the zone schedule changes that will happen on every map

Most species will do things at different times next update

[peak cedar]

Could be like Yukon where it changes 😅

Because one image did show snow as the map which is weird

[dreamy goblet]

That would be dope, I mean, Yukon is the only map with that VERY WELL BELOVED mechanism.

[peak cedar]

Snow would just make more sense on the map than rain imo

[dreamy goblet]

Yea, deffinetly, and it would make hunting more interesting and, well, would pretty much change the map alot. IMAGINE, if some birds, (when its snowy), would change into their Winter Plumage, VERY UNLIKELY, but would be VERY DOPE.

[midnight moon]

🤣

My humour is broken

[dreamy goblet]

NGL, I think for Revontuli my loadout will be a 12GA O/U (Just prefer it to the Pump action), a bow and the .22LR Handgun

[midnight moon]

Cool

[dreamy goblet]

I mean, you can legit take everything on the map with the 12GA

[warm basin]

It's was prob a early design for the map but they decided the snow wouldn't work well with the birds

[peak cedar]

hopefully one or the other is changed before release then

[dreamy goblet]

Yea, if it was snowy 24/7 the Upland birds would be too easy to spot.

[peak cedar]

because as it stands now the map that's shown is not the actual map

I think they'll be fairly easy to spot regardless in the big open areas of the map

[gloomy granite]

That ne Finland map should be 20 species map because Roe deer is missing 😔

[dreamy goblet]

Yes, 😞

[terse girder]

I HATE FINLAND

[midnight moon]

Why

[terse girder]

FINNISH

[midnight moon]

What did Finnish do to you

[vivid cosmos]

It's cause of the Jetlag, going to Europe is brutal

[dusk creek]

Everything

As long as male roosevelt elk are more frequent on layton with the update im happy

They are my worst enemy

[midnight moon]

I don't understand

Maybe because I'm dumb

[dusk creek]

Its a joke lol

[midnight moon]

Then it's my fault

[dusk creek]

Maybe…

[lone prairie]

Hirschfelden is the best map you cant change my mind

[dreamy goblet]

I mean, I love hunting Hirsch because its actually CHALLENGING AND probs the most realistic map if it comes to stalking.

Thats why im so excited for Finland.

Because itll be.

As much stalking as we love.

[lone prairie]

I love Finland because it will have so much small game which I am a big fan of

[dreamy goblet]

Yes.

Ill love it for the Upland Birds mostly.

but Waterfowl is also.

DOPE.

[plain yoke]

I'll hold my opinion on the new map until it's released .... I'm still finding bugs on Mississippi

[dusk creek]

While i prefer big game hunting…. It is very fun to sprint into the bushes with a shotgun shooting every rabbit, pheasant, and turkey i can see on rancho

Dont waterfowl hunt anymore in game cause its wonky but now ill be able to

[fresh bluff]

I'm curious to see how the waterfowl rework turns out

[round pine]

Hopefully good

[dusk creek]

They say its better so I believe them

Id argue its hard to make it worse than it is now

[dreamy goblet]

If its just like Classic, Itll be GREAT.

[fresh bluff]

I haven't played classic so I dunno what it's like there

[jade thicket]

classic has the best bird hunting currently and tk said the new waterfowl hunting is as good or better in the stream

so must be good

[dreamy goblet]

Yea. I hope the Creator Beta will be out soon, god, I want to see some bird hunting.

[lone prairie]

I cant wait to see ptarmigans in cotw

[dreamy goblet]

Yea, I already loved hunting ptarmigans in Classic, hope theyll turn out well.

[lone prairie]

Yeah, ptarms in classic are so fun

I am also big fan of red dots and cant wait to see the rework

Because now red dot is so bad in cotw

[dreamy goblet]

NGL, I hope we will be able to mount them on more weapons aswell.

Yea, I also hope they get the same sensativity as Iron Sights.

[midnight moon]

I personally don't play Classic, but I'd want to try

[dreamy goblet]

To make them easier to use.

[dreamy goblet]

Its "bassically" free.

[midnight moon]

I'm aware of that

[dreamy goblet]

But if you want to get weapons and stuff, its recommended you buy stuff. As farming is really really annoying and takes ages.

I think I spent like, well over 200 bucks on Classic, lol.

[limber cliff]

This is an under appreciated comment

[midnight moon]

Okay

[dreamy goblet]

NGL, I wish I had a Shotgun RN, lmao.

[midnight moon]

Shotgun would be the thing for you

[dreamy goblet]

You see the Swan infront? Thats the male, you can tell by the black "Bump" ontop of the beak, we call him "Aggri" Because hes an aggressive f***, the females just as aggressive but her names "Ursula" we named them because they well, are there all the time.

[midnight moon]

Swans are not the smallest birds

[dreamy goblet]

They are, FAST AF, and STRONG AF, and most importantly AGGRESSIVE AF.

Especially when they have young.

[midnight moon]

Thanks from the information

[dreamy goblet]

They could probs break someones arm, ngl.

[midnight moon]

stronk

[dreamy goblet]

Geese on steroids

[midnight moon]

Too much gym aquired

[dreamy goblet]

Lmao.

[limber cliff]

To note: only Aggro when babies present; or when they lay claim to a pond.
“This is your pond?”
…
“Look at us, this is our pond now.”
😂😂

[midnight moon]

😄

[limber cliff]

lowkey would love to have swans

[dreamy goblet]

Well, it is a problem when they lay claim to essentially, the area around your dock where your fishing boat is parked.

[limber cliff]

It’s their dock now

And their boat

[midnight moon]

No can do

[limber cliff]

They’re gonna take the babies for a nice afternoon jaunt

[dreamy goblet]

AND THE LAKE IS 80 SQUARE KILOMETRES LARGE, ;-;

[limber cliff]

It’s theirs

All of it

If you can see it, it’s theirs.

[fresh bluff]

I'm definitely looking forward to seeing all the new bird species. and the other new species of course, but birds in particular

[dreamy goblet]

Well, atleast they arent as annoying as those Kormorant f*

[limber cliff]

Cormorants are hilarious

[dreamy goblet]

Cormorants are annoying, they take away all the fish, destroy trees with their acid poop, and destroy nets.

[limber cliff]

We have them here, and it’s hilarious trying to watch boaters shoo them away when they’re sunning and drying after dives 😂

Idk why people fear’em

Just grab gently and yeet

[dusk creek]

Funny bird

Coromorants are meme

[dreamy goblet]

Dont really fear them they are more of a invasive pest here in bavaria, but for some god forsaken reason, they are protected.

[vivid cosmos]

Have you even seen their beaks? They have a hook

[dusk creek]

Funny puppet bird on a string used to catch fish

[vivid cosmos]

They are terrifying I tried to save one stuck on a net and I ended up with my arms bleeding in different parts

[limber cliff]

Most marine birbos have a hook

[dusk creek]

if you find a dead seabird makes a good spear head

[limber cliff]

I’ve rehabbed several including a white pelican.
Additionally, raptor birds. Idk, I guess I just learned to dodge faster

[dusk creek]

Pelicans are evil

they eat babies!

[limber cliff]

Hold head under the jaws and gently pinion the wings between thumb and pinky; keeps them from flapping and keeps you getting stabbed

Sorta puts them in a immobile hang-state

[limber cliff]

They definitely aren’t kind - but unless I’m hunting the animal and eating it; I don’t think they deserve to die if I can help them

[vivid cosmos]

Suppose so, I couldn't dodge much because I had to unstuck it from the damn net he got himself into, it also got stuck because of its own greed, the net was part of a fish farm

[limber cliff]

That’s on him then 😂
Glad you gave it a try though.

[dusk creek]

Yeah no they don’t deserve to die….. they are just big bullies and I get freaked out when they just straight up swallow things i never knew pelicans ate

like other birds lol

[limber cliff]

The pigeon makes me sad

[vivid cosmos]

All big animals are bullies

[limber cliff]

Pigeons are just dumb babies

[vivid cosmos]

It's just nature

Well most of em

[dusk creek]

Erm… im a big animal and i dont bully 💀

[vivid cosmos]

Not all of them

[dusk creek]

Check…. Mate

[vivid cosmos]

Lol

[dusk creek]

orcas giving boaters pity meals as gifts is funny

[vivid cosmos]

Orcas are definitely bullies and smart ones too

[dusk creek]

In all fairness pretty sure orcas are the most powerful apex predator in the sea to ever exist 💀

❌

[vivid cosmos]

Yeah but they are also petty

[dusk creek]

Accidentally placed an x now i cant get rid of it

if a megalodon and a pod of orcas fought my money is on orcas

[vivid cosmos]

Defo on the orcas

Poor meg

[dusk creek]

I legit believe if they lived next to some of these crazy prehistoric sea monsters theyd come out on top

[dreamy goblet]

I mean, they even use physics to their hunting advantage so yea.

[glacial summit]

Pffft whaling ships solo

[vivid cosmos]

Mosasaurs was kind of the orca of its time

[vivid cosmos]

ª

[dreamy goblet]

Yea, if a Mosasaur vs a Orca fought, Im betting on the Mosa.

[glacial summit]

Well ones extinct and ones not so

[dreamy goblet]

Yea.

[vivid cosmos]

Equally fast and better fight equipped

[glacial summit]

Im going orcas in 7

[dusk creek]

One on one? Orca has no chance

Realistically orcas in fights always have a pod to back them up

Not to mention being hyper intelligent

[vivid cosmos]

Yeah they are often compared to wolves

[glacial summit]

That brings me to my third point

[dreamy goblet]

Yea. Realistically Orca VS Mosa, Orca wins, because the Mosa cant really fight, because, they are dead and bones dont fight well.

[limber cliff]

They also play ping pong with their smaller prey

[glacial summit]

Give da seals guns

[vivid cosmos]

Weren't Americans already doing that?

Elite force or something

[glacial summit]

No I ain’t giving da seals MY guns

[glacial summit]

I get what you did there

Yus the military branch has guns

but

da seal seals don’t

Orca defense aks for da seals

[vivid cosmos]

Do they look this handsome?

[glacial summit]

YUS

[vivid cosmos]

Also I just found an article, Russians tried it a long time ago

[glacial summit]

Ofc they did

Yall say americans do crazy shit but russians man

Crazy

I assume they were the ussr at the time tho?

[vivid cosmos]

Training dolphins to kill or something

[glacial summit]

Nice

Anyways finland stuff

Did the fins do any crazy stuff?

[vivid cosmos]

They had the White death if it counts

[dusk creek]

FINLAND

[vivid cosmos]

Will the map have snow?

Or mountains?

[dusk creek]

Morbius whale

[inland night]

upland, not alot of mountains

basically a upland grassland

[glacial summit]

Oooo right

The winter war is a massive underdog story

[tulip hawk]

Species list

[subtle zephyr]

Upland Fowl:

• Capercaillie
• Willow Ptarmigan
• Black Grouse
• Hazel Grouse
• Rock Ptarmigan

Waterfowl:

• Golden-eye Duck
• Tufted Duck
• Eurasian Teal
• Eurasian Widgen
• Tundra Bean Goose
• Greylag Goose
• Canada Goose
• Mallard Duck

Rabbits/Rodents:

• Mountain Hare

Predators:

• Raccoon Dog
• Eurasian Lynx
• Brown Bear

Deer:

• Whitetail Deer
• Moose

[tulip hawk]

Wow that was quick

[uneven bloom]

Willow ptarmigans sound so goofy

I'm gonna massacre them

[tulip hawk]

What do you mean by that....

[dusk creek]

What do you think…. Will GO moose be big, battle scarred, big paddles?

Or a little fairy moose with flowers in its paddles like red deer lol

[dreamy goblet]

I hope its the first one.

[dusk creek]

Im not sure what else it could be except a battle worn moose

I def wont be happy if it has like an unrealistically big paddle with the chance that the other one is completely broken off

[vivid cosmos]

Oh I hunt Eurasian teal

Cool

Now I'm only missing the blue-winged teal to gather all the animals I hunt in real life if I add classic and CoTW

[vivid cosmos]

My bet is that its going to be huge with bloody velvet

[dreamy goblet]

Would be good.

[warm basin]

The GO moose is prob gonna be a freshly shed velvet so it has red bloody antlers with a unique furtype

[vivid cosmos]

That's a great bet

[dreamy goblet]

#HowToBreakyourNeck

[vivid cosmos]

And sounds a more family friendly path to avoid the bloody flesh

[vivid cosmos]

Probably like this cause the albino mooses have their mystical background in the real world

[warm basin]

Yea but like the 300 scoring type antlers

[vivid cosmos]

Well yeah

Or maybe the fully white spirit moose

Again, with the huge paddles

[dusk creek]

GO mela moose sounds cooler

To me

[vivid cosmos]

Maybe but you cannot deny the charm of a spirit blood antlers moose

[warm basin]

Yea besides they arnt gonna make the GO the same fur as someone's SR

[lusty orbit]

any info cards posted yet?

[vivid cosmos]

also I just found this thing a greylag canada hybrid

that should definetively be in the game as a rare for the greylags

[mighty dove]

First one, but also with velvet

[neon gazelle]

googled it and it is so cute

[peak cedar]

shooting ptarmigan on the ground is a weird concept to me

[neon gazelle]

I am also gonna kill them a lot

I would love a raccoon dog great 1 tbh

[lusty orbit]

then shoot them in the air

[neon gazelle]

or a brown bear

[inland night]

imagine that

just a eggwhite coloring moose

[peak cedar]

@lusty orbit that's not what I meant lmao

[neon gazelle]

sometime I am gonna get a duck as a pet

[peak cedar]

idk how ptarmigan are hunted IRL, but peasant being grounded and them not...idk

[neon gazelle]

it's legal in kentucky

[vivid cosmos]

the predator GOs are going to go close to last, The last GOs are going to be birds

[peak cedar]

pheasant*

[dusk creek]

The noobs need help…. And birds can probably be shot grounded because they fly faster now

[vivid cosmos]

if they even make em

[neon gazelle]

@vivid cosmos so prob a moose great 1

[peak cedar]

good thing they said it's up the community 🤷‍♂️ it's just wrong imo

[vivid cosmos]

yeah EW did a poll in youtube

and moose won

[lusty orbit]

idk either, but you can hunt them however you want if they won't have the grounded thing

[peak cedar]

then they should make pheasant grounded too 😂

not grounded

[lusty orbit]

maybe they will

[neon gazelle]

I like the pheasant grounded thing it makes it more fun

[unkempt condor]

Aren't they like that already?

Oh

[vivid cosmos]

When I hunt dove I always shoot 'em in the air but I wouldn't be arrested if I shot them in a tree, its just about hunters ethics

[peak cedar]

^^

[lusty orbit]

me too, just wish it was more polished

[neon gazelle]

ikr

[vivid cosmos]

its kind of like a mini game

[unkempt condor]

I wish there was a call that'll make them fly

[mighty dove]

I wish the little asses didn’t run 9/10 and just fly

[lusty orbit]

you mean the whistle?

[mighty dove]

I followed one for about 500 meters before he decided he wanted to fly and by that time I just let him go lol

The whistle doesn’t always work either

[neon gazelle]

yeah like a coyote call for coyotes and pheasants and other birds to make them fly?

[peak cedar]

the whistle doesn't work half the time

[dusk creek]

kill all peesant

[unkempt condor]

It doesn't make them defensive

[uneven bloom]

Yeah pheasants hate flushing

[lusty orbit]

well it should

[vivid cosmos]

yeah or maybe make em have a cover meter like the player and when they are spooked and out of cover they just fly

[uneven bloom]

You can walk right over one and they'll just sit there

[neon gazelle]

ikr

[lusty orbit]

the fact that it doesnt is the devs problem

[neon gazelle]

so and then they run ten miles and finally flush

[unkempt condor]

But when I run around 150m away trying to find one THATS WHEN THEY DECIDE TO FLUSH

[neon gazelle]

ikr

me and my freind use guns to get them to flush

like shot guns and such

[vivid cosmos]

pheasant and quail wait a lot before flying in real life and they prefer to run if they are in cover, when they are pushed out of cover is when they fly but they are happy running from bush to bush

[unkempt condor]

I want them to add pheasants to hirsch but at the same time if they did that then there would be no reason to play Rancho

[neon gazelle]

yeah

[unkempt condor]

My phone auto corrected pheasants to please 😑

[neon gazelle]

oof

[peak cedar]

adding species to old maps is a easy way to break the game

[neon gazelle]

who else here play6s for honor aka disapointment

[vivid cosmos]

rancho only has Peccary and pheasant right?

[peak cedar]

look at euro rabbits...

[unkempt condor]

And Bob cat, antelope rabbit and Rio grande

[neon gazelle]

white tail and other stuff

[lusty orbit]

Can someone explain to me the physical differences of the rock and willow ptarmigan? They look the same when i google them.

[vivid cosmos]

meh turkeys are always the same in every map and we all shoot them with the .22

[neon gazelle]

oh is he talking about exclusive to rancho

[vivid cosmos]

and nobody really enjoy rabbits

[unkempt condor]

One is rock and one is willow

[neon gazelle]

hahahah

[unkempt condor]

They are impossible to find and shoot

[hidden quest]

they still exist

[unkempt condor]

You hear them

But can't see them

[neon gazelle]

they do

[mighty dove]

The rocks look more sleeker, willows look more rounder

[gloomy granite]

That white peak I think its hybrid of Speckle belly and Canadian

[lusty orbit]

gee thanks

[unkempt condor]

YW

[neon gazelle]

can somebody pull up the list of animals for finland

[unkempt condor]

Pins

[mighty dove]

Species list?

[subtle zephyr]

Upland Fowl:

• Capercaillie
• Willow Ptarmigan
• Black Grouse
• Hazel Grouse
• Rock Ptarmigan

Waterfowl:

• Golden-eye Duck
• Tufted Duck
• Eurasian Teal
• Eurasian Widgen
• Tundra Bean Goose
• Greylag Goose
• Canada Goose
• Mallard Duck

Rabbits/Rodents:

• Mountain Hare

Predators:

• Raccoon Dog
• Eurasian Lynx
• Brown Bear

Deer:

• Whitetail Deer
• Moose

[lusty orbit]

that doesn't help either lol

[unkempt condor]

Species list?

[subtle zephyr]

Upland Fowl:

• Capercaillie
• Willow Ptarmigan
• Black Grouse
• Hazel Grouse
• Rock Ptarmigan

Waterfowl:

• Golden-eye Duck
• Tufted Duck
• Eurasian Teal
• Eurasian Widgen
• Tundra Bean Goose
• Greylag Goose
• Canada Goose
• Mallard Duck

Rabbits/Rodents:

• Mountain Hare

Predators:

• Raccoon Dog
• Eurasian Lynx
• Brown Bear

Deer:

• Whitetail Deer
• Moose

[unkempt condor]

Woah

[neon gazelle]

thx

[unkempt condor]

New command

[mighty dove]

One be fat, one be skinny

Tbf I didn’t see too many differences either

[vivid cosmos]

you are right then Pheasants are the only fun thing in rancho, all the other animals are cool but they are just filler and species to hunt for diamonds and leave alone after

[limber cliff]

I get the humor but also, they kept true to nature with red deer mucking up their racks with foliage during breeding time

[unkempt condor]

Im just happy they are adding Ptarmigan

[vivid cosmos]

to look bigger

[unkempt condor]

Just makes you think what would the map be without the waterfowl bug

[neon gazelle]

hey guys did blitzzhunts change his name I dont see him in streams

[lusty orbit]

i just hope all of the new birds fit on small plaques and platforms, unlike turkeys

[hidden quest]

I can’t wait to fill a SCM Lodge with the Finland species!

[mighty dove]

Usually a mostly waterfowl/fowl map would have me disappointed but I am really excited for it

[vivid cosmos]

I think maybe the Capercallie wont

[inland night]

im already doing that without finland

SCM is my fav

[hidden quest]

same

[vivid cosmos]

yeah but sadly the plaques are obsolete

[dusk creek]

I personally just want another lodge

Where would i put all these birds lol

[inland night]

there is a way

and that is the way

if you know you know

[vivid cosmos]

another lodge maybe with more plaques, I think the main issue with the lodges is that the taxed animals are kind of considered like entities in the game code so adding too many plaques could slow the game to an unbearable extent

[lusty orbit]

they weight less than canada geese so i hope they will

[plain yoke]

EW take a look at some of the feed back on Phesants and quail. Please fix before adding upland birds to Finland. We don't want the same issues

[vivid cosmos]

they are the ones that puff like turkeys_

?

[lusty orbit]

yes

[inland night]

also from waht i saw capercaillie was always strutting, they shouldnt do that

[vivid cosmos]

we are going to need an uplandfowl rework after this waterfowl rework lol

[vivid cosmos]

My guess is that they where just showing up the model

[lusty orbit]

it honestly baffles me that you can place a half a ton alligator on a smaller plaque than a turkey

[uneven bloom]

The map is still in development, keep in mind

[vivid cosmos]

maybe all birds will have a flight rework because the takeoff of the pheasants looks very patchy and unnatural

[inland night]

also they run a bit too far

pheasants irl try to run a bit, hide, and fly off if needed

ik cause i live next to em

big fields in my area

[vivid cosmos]

same with quail and with the amount o detail they are planning to add to ducks and geese flight they should look at the other species as well

[vivid cosmos]

I know more about quail but its kind of similar

[dire sable]

Yep Qual animation is so bad. Sometimes they land like one meter away from you

[vivid cosmos]

they also have that weird arched neck

[dire sable]

Birds are too slow and dumb, shotgun action is too clumsy compared to Classic. Hopefully next update is going to fix that

[vivid cosmos]

the ducks flight is looking nice tho, they are very very fast irl

[jade thicket]

yeah its nice to see they got some speed to them now

more inline with classic

[vivid cosmos]

yeah and them landing on the floor is also cool

[jade thicket]

we will probably get to see them better next week when jaxy hunts waterfowl

[vivid cosmos]

yeah

What was the waterfowl bug, the one where they freeze mid flight?

[limber cliff]

Or get stuck on the ground

Or never show up

Take your pick haha

[vivid cosmos]

oh lord

[inland night]

...

[plain yoke]

🙄

[vivid cosmos]

Maybe send it to #🦝︴hunter-memes

[limber cliff]

👆

[mighty dove]

That’s gonna get removed

But that’s also really funny

[rancid pecan]

Finally someone based in here

[dreamy goblet]

NGL; I still hope Buckshot / Slugs will get an update to work somewhat like in Classic, because the way they are RN is just not really that cool, especially since you will be able to take down every animal legally with a 12GA in the new Map.

[glacial summit]

What about them needs reworked?

[rancid pecan]

Wdym
Buckshot works like...buckshot

Nothing to change about them

[dreamy goblet]

Mostly the fact that they impact the trophy score..Like..with the not hitting vitals on some of the bigger animals.

But slugs work fine.

[rancid pecan]

Thats because you gotta get close to focus the pellets in a smaller area

Just like irl

[dreamy goblet]

Yea, I know still, you should be able to atleast get one lung from 50 meters, lol.

[rancid pecan]

Have you ever seen a someone shooting buckshot on youtube?
You're lucky if 2 of your pellets hit the target from 20 meters

[dreamy goblet]

But, since most people dont really use buckshot and shotguns in general for anything but birds, or small game, its not really that much of a problem.

[dreamy goblet]

Another cool thing would be a choke system, however that would probs complicate things.

[rancid pecan]

Thatd make shotguns too complex compared to other weapons

[dreamy goblet]

Yea. Atleast shotguns will get some love with the new fast birds.

[vapid garden]

The buckshot definitely doesn't have enough penetration for most shotguns

[midnight moon]

As a man who is a fowl enthusiaist I really cannot wait for the new update

[dreamy goblet]

Neither can I.

[gaunt storm]

With Finland having so many birds, it would really be cool of every map could have a bird added

Including Rancho (Gambells Quail)

[dreamy goblet]

Yea, would be cool

[midnight moon]

I specially love waterfowling so having a bunch of waterfowl in the same map is like a dream for me

[dreamy goblet]

Greylag for Hirsch

[vapid garden]

that's a funny way to spell pheasants

[plain yoke]

Fix quail and pheasants first before adding birds to other maps

[midnight moon]

I really hope that Cinnamon teal and Harlequin duck get to a map with multiple waterfowl ( they mentioned something with population resets so I really hope)

[dreamy goblet]

Greylags and Pheasant for Hirsch would be nice but, Greylags are way more common then Canada Geese here in Germany, atleast where im frome.

*from

[midnight moon]

Tehnically, if an old map became a primarily fowl map, which one would it be?

[vapid garden]

mississippi

[dreamy goblet]

Maybe Layton? I mean, Hirsch would also be nice. But Mississippi would also be possible.

[vapid garden]

that's the map everyone thought was going to be waterfowl map before they revealed it

[dreamy goblet]

Ye.

[gaunt storm]

Blue (Dusky) Grouse Should be added to Layton and SRP

[vivid cosmos]

the best part of the waterfowl rework is that we will be forced to use Shotguns definetively

[dreamy goblet]

Yes, exactly.

[peak cedar]

buckshot is not realistic at all in cotw lmao

[plain yoke]

why 22lr still works ... I hate using it on birds but it works

[vivid cosmos]

they were just used as a Gimmick weapon and for realism purposes but we all knew that for bird hunting in game the .22 was better

[gaunt storm]

Speaking of, they should add steel birdshot for every gauge, and waterfowl are required to have it. Otherwise, you lose the ammo check

[dreamy goblet]

Would be cool.

[peak cedar]

buckshot at 20 meters should be able to blow the side of a deer out

[vivid cosmos]

in america you mean?

[dreamy goblet]

And at 50 Meters should be well capable of hitting vitals.

[peak cedar]

instead it barely gets lung and I mean barely

[vapid garden]

Ye sometimes it doesn't even penetrate the skin lmao

[dreamy goblet]

Is this a fellow Shotgun enjoyer talking?

[peak cedar]

I enjoy shotguns yes

[vivid cosmos]

any shotgun shot at 20m should have a pretty condensed cloud of pellets

[dreamy goblet]

NGL, I probs enjoy using the Shotgun so much because of the old Classic Days with the Single Shot Shotgun.

[gaunt storm]

Nah, all waterfowl

In the game

[peak cedar]

I used to hunt waterfowl quite a bit, not so much these days

[vivid cosmos]

but why is it required to be steel pellets_

?

[peak cedar]

obviously not with buckshot

[gaunt storm]

So that the ponds and lakes that the waterfall inhabit don't get contaminated with lead

[dreamy goblet]

Well, yes, obviously. I once ruined my Diamond Goose by accidentally shooting it with Buckshot ;-;

[plain yoke]

lead contaminates the water ways

[gaunt storm]

Steel does not poison. At least not like that

[peak cedar]

you'd be surprised at how many people thought that meant I would hunt ducks with buckshot 😂

[dreamy goblet]

Lmao. I usually use buckshot for class 2-3 and well, for everything bigger I use my 12GA slugs.

[vapid garden]

You used to have to hunt geese with buckshot in cotw lmfao because the birdshot didn't do enough damage to take them out

[vivid cosmos]

I don't like how in the game you have to unlock birdshot, it should be the other way around

[peak cedar]

yes it should be the other way around indeed

birdshot > buckshot > slugs

[dreamy goblet]

NGL, All Shotgun rounds besides maybe, Slugs should be starter unlocks.

[vivid cosmos]

people mostly use shotguns to hunt birds and buckshot and slugs where an adaptation

[peak cedar]

I'm afraid Finland is gonna fall into the 22 trap with the upland game

[midnight moon]

I was one playing MP with some guy. I spot a diamond goose. I said "Oy a diamond goose!". A dude instantly pulled out the starter rifle and kills the goose from the first hit. That was the last time I ever played mp ( I want to play mp with friends but none of my friends have good pcs or this game)

[vapid garden]

well yeah with no grounded score .22 will just be easier to grind with

[vivid cosmos]

sadly yes for people who just want their diamonds

[dreamy goblet]

Upland Fowl is going to be my main target ngl, and you better believe Ill use my 12GA or 20GA.

[peak cedar]

which is fine. It's just gonna make diamonds and rares much easier to obtain.

Make the map boring...faster!

making*

[vivid cosmos]

I will walk the map with a shotgun always and probably the 7mm

[dreamy goblet]

IDK, I mean, your able to take quite legit, EVERY species with the 12GA.

[vivid cosmos]

also the meese?

[dreamy goblet]

Yea, with 12GA slugs.

[glacial summit]

22 and 308

All you need

[gaunt storm]

It is normal to use rifles with grouse and Ptarmigan

[languid wedge]

With Capercaillie and Ptarmigan 22 is the more traditional way to go

[vivid cosmos]

oh I think I've never used slugs in CoTW

[gaunt storm]

Or any 4-8 gun

[uneven bloom]

12ga slugs destroy wolves

[vapid garden]

I would like the 12ga pump more but it sounds funny lmao

[gaunt storm]

Which there's a lot of

[dreamy goblet]

12GA slugs go up to class 8, and 10GA goes up to class 10

[keen belfry]

I’ll just try the shotgun for Revontuli birds and hare, if that doesn’t work I’ll just stay with Hornet

[uneven bloom]

*9

[gaunt storm]

There is no class 10

[vivid cosmos]

I guess I use the cacciatore for everything

[gaunt storm]

Not yet anyway

[hidden quest]

don’t forget the Raccoon Dogs and Eurasian Lynx

[uneven bloom]

Likely won't ever be a Class 10

[dreamy goblet]

YYes, I mean class 9.

Sorry lads.

and ladies not to "offend" anyone.

[glacial summit]

Actually I changed my mind

22

[vivid cosmos]

I also guess that with the faster birds we should also get semi shotguns

[glacial summit]

and 46-70

[dreamy goblet]

I mean, sadly we only have a 20GA Semi Auto so far.

[midnight moon]

I would like a 16 ga SxS db.

[vapid garden]

drilling rifle gang

[dreamy goblet]

#FixTheDrillingIronSights

[vapid garden]

Yeah that's the first thing I'm gonna look for in the patchnotes lmfao

[dreamy goblet]

You ever tried using Drilling Iron Sights in Rifle mode? Yea..not really possible at all.

[languid wedge]

12ga or 16ga 22lr or 22h 243 or mosin and the 7mm

[vivid cosmos]

yeah but it only has 3 shots

[dreamy goblet]

DUE TO THE FRONT SIGHT NOT BEING POSSIBLE.

TO LOOK AT.

[vivid cosmos]

ohhh the drilling will be a good gun for the new map

[midnight moon]

I mean, I would like a 16 ga db shotgun that does not a have a rifle right under it

[dreamy goblet]

Yea...If the Iron sights would be fixed.

[dreamy goblet]

Yea, So would I.

I would love more O/U or SxS designs in general.

I loved using the 12GA SxS in Classic.

[vapid garden]

It's likely that all of the semi auto shotguns that'll be added will only have 3 shots

if they do add more

[vivid cosmos]

thats sad

[midnight moon]

The first gun im getting in classic is 16 ga sxs

[dreamy goblet]

Its a great gun, its an old fashioned Coach Gun.

[vivid cosmos]

Like what is the problem with 5 shots

[languid wedge]

Or 6

[glacial summit]

Shotguns are a low skill weapon

[dreamy goblet]

Would probs be too overpowered and make nobody use the other shotguns.

[vapid garden]

Balance

[vivid cosmos]

it will depend on how fast are the ducks

[midnight moon]

What are coach guns?

[hidden quest]

it’s very possible, just not ideal

[dreamy goblet]

I just want to see my front sights ;-;

[languid wedge]

Waterfowl laws most around the world restricted to 3 shots if that's what you was asking

[hidden quest]

illegal in most places. That’s their reasoning

[vivid cosmos]

if the ducks are as fast as in real life its not that problematic and we also have ARs

[vapid garden]

Well it's the same reason the ARs only have 5 shots

[vivid cosmos]

yeah and it's illegal to shoot them with an AR

[vapid garden]

for balance reasons

[languid wedge]

A 22 yes

[vivid cosmos]

or any AR

I'd guess

[midnight moon]

I prefer double barrel shotguns so I dont care

[languid wedge]

Any rifle

[vivid cosmos]

yeah

[languid wedge]

You could use a 3 round max ar 12

[dreamy goblet]

Yes, SxS and O/U are the best guns, no doubt about it.

[vivid cosmos]

well then I'll just use 3 shotguns and get to the loophole in the Law-game balance

[languid wedge]

Or use the 12ga pump

[midnight moon]

Ngl I prefer SxS. I love older guns and other stuff but thats just me

[dreamy goblet]

Yea, older guns are great.

[midnight moon]

Well, I am a man of history

[plain yoke]

12 Ga pump expensive AF

[dreamy goblet]

I assume your favourite is the 20GA SXS?

[midnight moon]

In this game yes. But normally I would prefer 16 ga.

[languid wedge]

Best 48k you can spend trust me

[plain yoke]

beter than buying tents??

[vapid garden]

Scope mount plus most effective shotgun in the game, kinda worth

[vivid cosmos]

that is my go to shotgun but I was wandering if I could get a 5 shot semi, cause that's what I hunt with irl, Yeah it is legal in Mexico

[plain yoke]

I can buy 3 tents with 48K

[languid wedge]

By the 12ga pump then go goose hunting for 45min it's payed for itself

[dreamy goblet]

Or you buy the 16GA Pump if you have access to it because its cooler ;)

Or you unlock it through the rancho story for free ;)

[glacial summit]

10ga>

[dreamy goblet]

Well, yes, 10GA is also very pro.

[languid wedge]

See the reason the 12pump and 16ga can hold more then 3 is because they're more designed for big and small game hunting so they get around the three round limit because they are not designed for waterfowl

[plain yoke]

any shotty + birdshot is designed for bird hunting

[languid wedge]

Birdshot ain't a bird only round it's a small game round

[plain yoke]

wouldnt use it for anything other than lvl 1

[languid wedge]

Yes like irl

[vapid garden]

lame cuz no scope mount

[dreamy goblet]

It does have one.

[vapid garden]

😳

[languid wedge]

You can use a scope on it

Have you never used it before

[dreamy goblet]

Yea. You can.

[uneven bloom]

The Couso? Yeah you can use a scope on it

[dreamy goblet]

NGL, Ima go try hunting with the Cacciatore because ima be honest, I never really used it, lmao.

I always used either the O/U or the Couso.

[vapid garden]

I never used the 16ga pump for anything other than birds so I never tried to mount a scope on it lmao

[dreamy goblet]

The only thing I prefer about the Cacciatore already are the irons, they look neat. Remind me of the classic Pump.

[languid wedge]

Imo cacc is best waterfowl gun and the couso is the best quail and pheasant gun

[vapid garden]

The only thing I don't like about the cacciatore is the sound

[languid wedge]

Yeah....

[dreamy goblet]

The sound sounds wierd, yea..

Like it doesnt have any kick.

[languid wedge]

It sounds like you're like shooting blinks out of it

[vapid garden]

it sounds completely different from the other shotguns for some reason

[dreamy goblet]

Yea. The 12GA O/U sounds fine though.

[languid wedge]

It doesn't have a Boom it has a kinda pop and it's weird

[languid wedge]

Yes pretty much every other shotgun is fine

[dreamy goblet]

BTW, What do you all think about the new .22H ammo coming?

[languid wedge]

I'm trying to figure out if it's actually for the hornet or the long rifle

[acoustic elbow]

is 22LR truncated cone

[dreamy goblet]

Ah.

Well, more pen for the 22LR.

IS.

GREAT.

[languid wedge]

Because literally everything up to yesterday says 22lr then tk said the 22h yesterday

[dreamy goblet]

Its bassically polymer tips for the 22LR.

[dreamy goblet]

Maybe its for both 👀

[vapid garden]

if it's for the hornet I hope it's class 3

o

[dreamy goblet]

Yea, that was my thought.

[sour perch]

Are any of the new species going to work like pheasant, and are the geese going to work the same as now aswell

[acoustic elbow]

no

[vapid garden]

so is it just the proper ammo for the .22 AR

[sour perch]

Geese or phesant

[dreamy goblet]

Most Upland Birds are gonna act like Pheasant, I assume.

[vapid garden]

none of the birds will have a grounded score so you can shoot them on the ground

[acoustic elbow]

none of the upland birds will have the pheasant mechanic

[languid wedge]

Do not get my hopes up for a less spooking 22 hornet round I would use the 22 hornet religiously if it did not spook like a normal rifle and if it spooked like the 22lr

[dreamy goblet]

👀 Would be dope though.

[languid wedge]

The the same reason I pretty much don't use the 22 AR that's for that exact reason as well

[vapid garden]

I'd use the hornet religiously if it was 1-3, it'd be perfect for the new map

[dreamy goblet]

Ye, you got a point.

[languid wedge]

Honestly if the 223 is 2-4 The hornet should be 1-3

Because the hornet does the same on level 3 animals as the 223 does on level 4

[dreamy goblet]

Yea.

[languid wedge]

Honestly The hornet does as good on level 4 animals as the 223

[dreamy goblet]

TBH, the .223 kinda needs a power buff aswell imo.

[languid wedge]

I mean you actually get medium blood if you go hunt deer with the soft points for the hornet

[sour perch]

No if you look at animals that would usually be class 3 irl, a 22 of any kind wold be underpowered to say the least

[vapid garden]

Yeah and it shreds bobcats/lynx but they're class 3

[sour perch]

Its not realistic

[plain yoke]

can you imagine the duck and goose murdering going on if it didn't spook

[languid wedge]

I mean have you seen me duck hunt with the 10 22lr

[sour perch]

Just shoot 250m then you shold be able to shoot 3 shots

[languid wedge]

I kill every male and almost ever duck

[vapid garden]

people irl hunt bobcats with .22h

it's just not common because it's a niche round

[sour perch]

Yes but what shots do thay take? Head

[languid wedge]

Bobcat should be max 20-23kg and a class 2

[languid wedge]

Heart and lungs

Manly heart

[round kite]

i think hunting ducks and geese wont be the shooting everything out of the air with the 22.
they are now way faster and and i think that's makes it almost impossible to shoot them with 22

[sour perch]

Class 2 is fine for it, ive seen ystervark drop with a 22lr but here not mutch tougher than a wild cat

[vapid garden]

a .22h can definitely take out a bobcat with a body shot, and it does ingame. The only problem is it's only class 1-2

[dreamy goblet]

Its the same problem as with the .17HMR HV in classic, because that thing can shoot roe deer and drop them, but it isnt allowed to

[sour perch]

Bobcat yes, lynx no, sorry saw now you said bob not lynx, idk why i read that wrong