#🦡︴cotw-scotland
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Fantasy lol
How would you call the ghost jackal?
I know cotw isn’t supposed to be realistic and that’s fine, but a lot of it should still be
Yeah but that's part of the story
the stories and maps are good but everything else feels like they took the easy way out
And the mocha moose wasnt like out of this world but it had this fantastic feel about him
True
Mainly the animals physical features, the regions they live in, and how they behave
There is no reason why these shouldn’t be correct
Yeah thats true, and not because some of the things the stories do are fantastic should mean the animals dont behave like animals
And yeah they kinda make up a to good to be true region when it comes to some maps, and that’s fine
But the general idea is correct
Fair but it has certain magic on the good story arcs
Like how they did something to make Roosevelt elk on Layton go away from where they tend to be, it ruins the game
I like how every animal had its spot, where you’d find it
But just a giant mosh pit
Like Cuatro is the best at that, 4 hills, 4 ibex species
That's fantasy too
Hardly
Also the hills are way too tiny for the Ibex to be comfortable
They would very much mix
Well there isn’t a region like that anywhere in the world
With all 4 within 5 miles of each other
But all 4 live in Spain and such
They just took the best features of hunting in Spain and shrunk it down
And that's not some sort of grounded fantasy?
Okay you're arguing that the game's fantasy elements were a good thing. I agree. But that's not necessarily a reason for the game to not have more effort put into it.
It IS a video game, but I want to sit in a blind and hunt ducks the same way I do on their predecessor game.
I shouldn't be forced to go and shoot at flocks with a .22 because they're lazy
I paid for the game, make it good!
It's already good so make it BETTER
I actually made the mistake to bring the fantasy elements to a discussion about animal AI which makes no sense because the animal behaviour should be real either way
Just remember, they had survey not long ago about waterfowl remake.
Which questions were mostly towards "Should we make it like Classic?"
I like CotW and classic almost the same amount, the only thing that troubles me about CotW are the spawn/respawn mechanics
Because I don't understand em and making me shoot all the animals in my map feels wrong
nothing has been announced yet, but probably late-ish June
like 20-something
so a couple weeks
alright, thank you
Yea hopefully the 29th but maybe the Tuesday after. Would be the 6th. The sooner the better 😹

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Huh
It’s different
:/
The idea behind that is to give the game longetivity and make diamonds harder and special. If like UH u get completely fresh spawns each login it would make the game far too quick n easy. Its a grind, farm the diamonds. Hunting is about patience.

@kindred iron Okay well if it's like you say then I can just nonstop respawn my map until a piebald spawns in front of me on classic right?
That's true
but it would take hundreds of tries
That would probably take ungodly long time if I had to guess
I'd prefer that over slaying everything on my map in hopes for respawns.
I'm fine with the respawn system when it's working, it's very easy to tell that my maps have way less animals now espeically whitetail on layton then say a new layton server, like in a level 15 server that hasn't been hunted I can easily find 10+ whitetail zones but I'll be lucky to find 3 zones with whitetail on my map now
Just watched the trailer awsome... I personally think we should be able to hunt pheasant in more than one map...
^ like I said Hirschfelden should never have been released without pheasants
No mate i was referring to a game releasing next year but shouldnt talk about it in this chat otherwise Ormy will want to spank my bottom again
Sure i agree there
Lol
Just hop over to #🦝︴off-topic and talk about there right?
Could do but i got too much to do.
Ahh
Dude the mallards are slow enough that when I see a flock flying overhead I can run and position myself to shoot them... wtfffff it's just a huge mess
Pretty sure Meggles kinda hunted towards pheasants being added to Hirsch on the stream
Imo they should be on Hirsch, Cuatro, TA, and maybe Parque
That'd make them kinda overused but like pheasants are in those areas irl so
Yeah it would make a difference specially in Hirsch and some of the maps need small game...
still alive?
ive never seen one of em but in the codex it still appear a thing that counts the critters that you have shot i think
sad that they dont exist anymore
The capture was taken on JUN 7 at 11:41 p.m
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2510827682
What is that?
It looks like a oversized weasel
yes
i shot a diamond weasel on medved 😂
Pic?🤨
haha i did it in a video long time ago
Any idea on what it was called I'm curious 😂
nah it was when medved just came out also im joking about it being a diamond the squirrels and weasel were just added animals with no ratings
not sure why they were removed tbh
At launch they were quite annoying because they made more noise than deer 😂
You're stalking red deer in thick forest in Hirsch and you hear huge brush noises coming from behind you. You raise your weapon, aim and get ready to shoot as the noise gets closer and closer, louder and louder. Your arm gets sweaty and adrenaline starts pumping. Time slows down when the noise is just behind the bush. You squeeze the trigger, ready to shoot at what ever comes through. And small bunny jumps from the bush and hops along when it sees you.
Yeah I was just looking at the species list and saw weasel and squirrel and got super confused
Squirrels do that irl too xD. Or they perch just out of reach and bark at you.
Did TK and Megs said something about the history of Rancho del Arroyo?
I have an idea for the next DLC. I think it would be cool if we could spend our game money. I have 1M plus
One super outpost for a map or something
one outpost to rule them all
Like a Texas map full of diamonds and rares that you have to pay ingame money for license for each animal
yep
this comment made me want to take a spoon to both my eyes
Anyone else notice how whitetails have bigger tails that move? They are finally making them more realistic
I'm not even sure what to spend that money on, once you get all guns/etc it's just a matter of maxing tents/stands per map
maybe clothes/camo like classic has, or bait and feeder sites?
Where did you get that pic?
What he said
That rack looks like a new GO rack, I’m checking it out
Nah it's not new
You can also see it in the trailer
It's the smallest one
In the Instagram post when the doe is running they perfectly cropped out her tail, almost seems on purpose to kinda have it as a surprise
Because in the older model the tail is just glued to the butt
Yea
This new tail is a little to big in my opinion it looks like a horse tail
Nah man
Is it usually that big?
Oh ok
Let me find you a vid
looks about the right length
Oh yea that looks good
some look a bit longer/shorter, guess it varies a bit
Yea
Axis deer are similar to whitetails. They also use the tail for like a flag when they spook. I’m only used to it covering a little bit of their butt I guess lol
Yeah the tails they have ingame right now are just to cover their aholes
Yea
The devs are starting to let us down more and more I feel like. The bugs need fixes
We shouldn’t really have to wait until a huge content update for game breaking bugs to be fixed
the only bad one I know about is the 400m render one.
But fixing the render bug, and a working competition system are the two bigs things I want to see in cotw atm
I wouldn't call the render problem gamebreaking. It just means you have to place your shots more carefully/from closer distances
I've been doing a lot of bowhunting so it hasn't affected me really
Yea but they usually just make things worse and worse and usually don’t fix them until more content comes out. They need big fix updates that aren’t apart of content updates
The 400m isn't a bug, the bug is dead animals disappearing
only lost one animal to it from shooting it at 380m from across a river lol
sorry like 280
Ah you meant the respawning of carcasses
then I fast-traveled to a tent even further away
yeah across-river/lake shots are risky rn
How has hunt club been in beta for like 2 years
yeah, I can live with the render thing even, comps are the big one I want
both would be great
Leaderboards to, with the new scoring system there really isn’t much that makes a diamond great. I have 300 currently and I don’t play anymore. It’s just the same over and over. I miss the old scoring system
Leaderboards haven’t worked in years
Hunt club's been down for a long while now
don't remember what the reason was though
They kept pushing the idea of truracs being so different than what we had before. You get a diamond and it’s like one of 2 possible racks. It kinda kills the motivation to play for me.
I want an Ai improve update that adds animal interactions and fixes that pumas and mountain lions spook everything, I mean that makes sense for wolves and lions but not for pumas, also, it would be cool to see foxes, jackals, coyotes lynx and other small predators hunt critters and get new animations
I think leaderboards would help
Maybe pumas in Parque killing mule deer does and lions killing female kudu, iberian wolves hunting female mouflon, etc it would be cool and it wouldn't risk diamonds
I’d give up a whole year of dlcs for them to fix the issues with that game that are destroying it
that'd still risk them killing rares
But we desperately need new animations
It could happen
Well they are starting already. Whitetail seem to be the first little animation update
As in real life
Whitetails fighting would be so cool
Bad luck and good luck are parts of hunting and female rares are never as cool as male rares
Imagine seeing two red deer a legendary and a level 7 fighting
That's a real show
And the game is good but it would come to life if animals interacted with each other
I think I would want more realistic terrain/maps before animal interactions
And I dont mean all the time I mean rare occurrences that you are hunting a pack of mule deer and a puma comes out of the brush and kills a female
I dont care about the flying rocks
I've never seen any
No I mean like actual maps that look realistic
The maps look great Idk what are you talking about
Look at SRP it looks nothing like actual Colorado hunting. It’s all green, there’s no junipers, no sage, aspen trees aren’t even golden, we don’t see creeks
But it looks pretty as hell
Pretty<realistic
I disagree guess it's a matter of opinion
Bighorn actually being in the mountains would be good too
They fill their maps up with to much vegetation to, look at the desert on Mexico. You can’t see 2 feet in front of you
There’s also no sage anywhere
Bighorn look like sheet dont bring them into the conversation
Just huge bushes
Man I live in mexico and the new map is like looking to the outside of my city I hunt in places that look and feel exactly as the new map
Its semi desert
And tall bushes and mesquite trees are all that there is
The brush is so thick in some parts it just destroys your clothes if you try chasing an animal
Ok then it could be somewhat good but definitely SRP is terrible
And bighorns not being on mountains is a big thing with that
I dont like the way SRP looks to be honest it causes me eyesore and I dont know why
Seeing ultimate hunting I was like wow their maps look way better than COTW. It just has better colors

The new channels are always cooler cause they have less rulz
Deserts aren't just barren
most of them anyway
Lol I didn’t mean barren I mean if the whole desert part of the map is so thick you can’t see it’s annoying
In the Sonora desert part of Arizona and not mexico, but same. They did a really solid job from what I've seen
Yeah I’m not reading that
The Sonoran desert is pretty damn thick compared to other deserts.
Especially up and around mountains
Yeah it is, it's pretty cool irl
some areas get a lot more heavily wooded than I originally thought before moving out here
If EW listens to my idea, we might get something cool
1- new AI for all animals,no exeption,better path finding, new animations,new features and personalities for animals( agressive, curious, skittish etc...)
2- We get elephants , but, you have to pay a lot of ingame money to even kill one, but they'll still be on the map
3-fix the damn waterfowl hunting for good and add new species
4-focus on fixing bugs and having actual hotfixes and not like 2 weeks to get one
5-stop adding new maps for a moment and add some missing species on some maps (dall sheep on yukon, pheasants on hirsch, new animals on Medved)
6- customizable lodges and outposts
7-a new game mode that would be called "realistic" like animals would change zones often and would be much more intelligent
8-Listen to your community
9- more surveys about existing features and how they can be improved
10- horses with many variations either breeds or colors
11- snow mobile for medved, 4×4 for vurhonga etc ...
12-new variations for animals like chocolate fallow deer(common),new mane system for lions (darker is higher level)
13-different sizes for different level animals
14- remodel some animals
And i think this should be everything i personally need to have a good hunting game because the maps are beautiful , the guns are good,the music is good, just the real hunting feeling is lacking unlike classic
I mean....
They're from thebsame company so i guess they can do things like classic
exactly let me find some pics of my own
I have a video of terrible quality of a whitetail let me see if I can upload it
its a bit lusher but same idea
there actually are junipers. i've seen them. allong with bear mallow, blue bells, indian paintbrush, douglas fir, aspen, dwarf willow, and a few others i've forgotten. they did an amazing job with the plants, imo. it's just the colors that are off. even southern colorado is brown/gold by the time rifle season comes lol
If they dont release new maps then how will they pay for all that work you are mentioning?
my favorite part is "we get elephants" lol
also yeah all those changes sound expensive as hell and EW doesn't over charges for DLCs so the prices are often fair
the map is based on summer it would seem
They should probably swap the textures for the two elk types in that case
elk are only white in color during the fall
they're more brown in the summer
they're very red brown in summer
if they did that they would also have to give them all velvet. they made it summer themed colors on purpose to have map variety im sure
They have already said they don't want the game to be like classic, its supposed to be more arcade like to appeal to a different audience.
Which is impatience 12 year olds
I can tell you right now that I personally would hate Classic. And no, I'm not 12.
Same. I'm an old dude and I hunt IRL. I much prefer the way things are done in COTW
I love Cotw and I’m here again to say Add Himalayan Tahr
BEGIN THE CHANT
I’m taking TK’s challenge and chanting Tahr
If anyone at expansive worlds see this you should add a Wish chat where the community can post what they want in, done or added to the game
Kinda like the yearly survey but a chat room
They should reboot theHunter:Primal
Na its narnia
wardrobe mites
It’s actually Atlantis
drowning place?
Or Mars
Tahr are the new turkeys #freethetahr
The game engine can't handle tahr fur, they can't make them look decent
That's why lions look so sad
It looks Similar to its area, keep in mind it's on the utah border and super high compared to the rest of Colorado
@languid nexus you seem to be thinking the whole state is limited to your area
Lol what
It's not on the Utah border. Nothing but desert there
Yea where does it say it’s on the Utah border lol
Your kidding right? That doesn’t mean anything🤣
Along with a utah county outpost
I do believe dall sheep where here first
Your dumb
Its dry in some places, but the mountains aren't deserts
Ok again nothing says it’s on the Utah border
No. I've actually been there. I can assure you there's nothing that looks even remotely like SRP along the southern half of the CO/UT border, you tool
I live in Utah
Srp is completely green. Not how Utah is
That area is mostly red sandstone canyons
Well the northern pan handle is
The Rockies are along the Utah Colorado border
Most of the high elevation east side is
Yea but that’s the northwest so not “border of Colorado in srp”
What?
Whats happening?
Idk
Srp slightly breaks into Utah
On the extreme left of the map
Besides a utah outpost along with a Utah county outpost
Oh thats a big nono, unacceptable
I really don’t get why this is important
It looks like everywhere else on the map and also isn’t accurate
I dont feel like it is lol
Ik he pulled this topic out of his ass I think🤣
No, I replied to your comment about how in accurate it is
It really isn’t accurate. Compare timber gold trails to silver ridge peaks and tell me what one is more accurate
One is set in fall
TGT is obviously fall and SRP is clearly spring
The other isn't
Yea but you don’t hunt Colorado in spring.
You can
And all I was arguing was how bad the colors are
You don’t hunt elk and mule deer in spring
Or Washington in summer but still
Washington really never changes color in certain areas
Medved is supposed to be winter but all male reindeer have antlers
Doesn't tgt have a whale skeleton?
Nah that's whiterime ridge
Oh
The game has odd seasons and makes no sense in that way and it's not a bad thing
The Mexican map does looks like winter
Which is good
Yeah they make a map based on the areas they reference to make a unique map so what if a flower is blooming in the wrong time of year based on the map
Also really I thought it looked late summer early fall
It’s as accurate as the axis deer truracs
In the desert is kinda the same only difference is spring and summer that have a lot of green
Again I wasn’t saying wrong or right I literally said I hate the colors. You don’t hunt elk and deer in spring you hunt them in fall or late summer
Oh ok then
Also dodo that is of Rocky Mountain national park
That is northern Colorado
EW said the map was based on southern Colorado but I think they just went for more Colorado in general
Where?
IDK. I like SRP. One of my favorite maps. Yep its just a game. They make the maps in general areas in general seasons. 🤷 Overall I think its good looking.
He doesn't like the typical spring mountain colors, so he says its inaccurate
They choose a season and nail it tho
Because he thinks its should be like eastern Colorado
The only thing I really dont like.or understand is why mulie drink timea are so short.
I think they just wanted us to focus on feed zones
And make the them not bunch up at lakes
Its easier then fixing their behavior
Utah is what the "Ute" indians called themselves. There were Utes running around all over Colorado. There's nothing even remotely mountainous along the CO/UT border until you get up around Moab which is in east central Utah
Because drink times are antinatural and people complained and in all the maps since srp theyve made em really short for all animals
I like SRP a lot. It's pretty accurate. I think. Yea I believe youre right DODO. Theres so many open feeding areas. Ive switched strategies and usually hunt the feeding times vecause of that.
Yep, I'm saying in on the eastern border and I didn't say this but Also a little above moab
Yeah most wild animals get their water from their food
So drink zones arent a really accurate concept
The hard part is theres lots of feed zones with just 1 animal there. Bit thats ok. Ots cool. I like wandering around. You always find animals. May not be mulies but you'll find turkey birds,prong and others on the adventure
I've noticed animals prefer to drink before its gets hot so they can graze in the shade of trees
This is definitely accurate
Only in dry climates do they actively search for water
Sorry, but literally everything else says Southern Colorado, including the DLC description. Most of the place names are generalized, and alot of them have RL counterparts around the San Luis Valley, Durango, and Telluride. @near kestrel
Yep I agree. Esp here where I live. WT get most of their water from the veggies they eat.
They can make sense for certain biomes. Anywhere water is scarce, you'll find animals drinking at isolated watering holes
There is a out post called “uinta”, a mountain range ONLY in Utah (left of Colorado and where it is on the map) and also a county in Wyoming, but SRP does not go into Utah, as it’s a Swedish Co and you can’t hound them on little things like that
Even predators hydrate from blood of their prey but they are the most common to find in water sources
Because they dont eat as often
Along with utah outpost close to the uinta outpost
Really? Lol
I dont mind drink zones being short
What animals drink for 5 hours anyways
Ok we have literally spent a half hour talking about the geographical location of a fictional map and the inaccurate aspects of a video game we all play and love anyway
In a discord chat about clues to DLC of said game that isn’t even needed at the moment as the new dlc has been revealed
The Uintahs were an Indian tribe long before that mountain range was named after them. Pretty sure they roamed into Colorado occasionally. I think Chief Ouray's wife was Uintah
It pushed me to explore the wilderness of the map and not just pick a good tree near water to place a stand
Man I love the clues channel I hope it's never deleted lol
It's all a mashup anyway. It's a biological/geographical collage. But it actually says on the reserve description that it's in southern Colorado
General is never as random
Let's post it on the Facebook page of the game man
I want Tahr too, next to the chamois
Uinta, San Juan, and Utah as outpost names, just saying
Imagine going to the waterhole on the mountain and seeing the tahr come down next to the tiny chamois
San Juan borders southern Colorado
Yeah but yeah not what it would be named after
Watch every outpost be named San something or Santa something
You know the San Juan River starts in Colorado, right?
Yeah
Up around Pagosa Springs. Which actually looks like SRP
why are yall debating whether the map that literally says its Colorado is CO
Why a Utah outpost and a uinta outpost then?
why do other states have streets and cities named after other states and places?
logic much lol
I'm not saying it's in Utah, just that utah is in it, I'm saying it's dead on the border
how can a map that is made up of several different parts of CO condensed into one area/map be considered utahs border?
Maybe it doesn't touch utah, but it is set right near the border
regardless its silly to argue on something like this especially when it clearly states ingame what it is
Where is Layton then? That's the only one I'm not too certain about
vancouver
Ah
Canada
No matter what its close to the border
yes CO does touch multiple states with borders 👏
looking on a map actually yeah i would say it borders around new mexico
i really dont get the point in arguing about this sort of stuff? the maps arent 1 to 1 locations irl, te awaroa is supposed to be the south island of nz but has sika which are north island only
it doesnt matter at the end of the day
Yep. They've said it themselves they don't focus on one area and add as many biomes as possible
which i appreciate since they are unlikely to do multiple maps in the same location just to get different biomes, it gives us a nice variety
Exactly
Why I'm a little bit sad about them not adding pronghorn to the mexico map cuz it's not likely they will do another in the area
What
maybe one day they will do a dlc thats just adding a new species to existing maps
Hopefully but it would have to be free
Please no
They look basically the same but in mexico there aren't many pronghorn
Although I dont see why not add them
I would have preferred Aoudad
Is it bad that I just found out there's an norden eastern outpost after playing for 2 years?
I think they would fit well
iirc the Mexican population of pronghorn are protected
Probably not in ranches
They lived in that zone but over 40 years ago
Maybe more
are there aoudad in central mexico?
or where this map is based?
Lol
The map its either Sonora or Chihuahua
The sonora desert is the most famous and the Chihuahua is the biggest
Kinda on the Layton thing I thought it was Oregon because of the points of interest saying stuff that can only be in Oregon
I thought it was Washington near Canada
It’s in BC
I’m literally going off of the point of interest near the lake in mount leviathan that says that the cave it’s next to has a spider only found in Oregon
Don’t expect a developer from across the world to get specific facts about it right
Your diving too deep
The graphic they released said that the maps has to be in Canada
You mean the pick a reserve map if your on single player?
No they released a stats graph for the anniversary
🤔
I’m pretty sure Layton is in Oregon, looks like the mid north part of Oregon
You mean this?
5 continents?
isn’t it 6?
or is that counting medved as europe because it’s russia
Plus medved in Asia. Right?
I think they count Russia as completely European in this case
Siberia is definitely in Asia
People count anything beyond the Ural mountains as asia
Sometimes Eurasia is handled as one continent though.
That's cool
I still refuse to believe that foxes are the most displayed animal in lodges, I barely see the suckers every once in awhile 😂
Not the usual case, they are different tectonic plate "groups", but I see where you're coming from
That’s probably why they are displayed the. Most whenever someone gets one it goes up
I got lucky with my diamond, I was hunting wolves in multiplayer when I scared him out of his rest zone
Srp- NA US
Yukon- NA US
Layton- NA CAD
Hirsch- europe GER?
Cuatro-Europe Spain
Parque- SA Argentina
Med Ved- Asia RUS
Te Awaroa- Oceania NZ
Vurhonga- Africa
All I can find for layton is that it's in the Pacific northwest in North America, thanks Google
It can be either US or CAN or both. It was never specified by the devs as far as I know.
I thought Yukon valley was in the Yukon aka Canada
Yukon is a Alaska thing
Hirsch is indeed a German map.
Nah Fersch feilden
Siberia is definitely Asia
No the first mission is called welcome to Alaska
What beta? I haven't seen any content creators playing it, so I'd assume no
even if they are, they might not be allowed to post it
I'm not sure they even have a real beta testing program. No way the dog DLC would have been cleared to release
I think I'm mistaken I'm sorry I'll delete my comments to avoid further misinformation
I think maybe Meggles or TK mentioned it in one of their streams, but I can't remember for sure
I think I was mistaken
Quite sure actually
What are you guys guesses for release date?
next week/the week after, maybe
either way by the end of the month
...barring them finding any catastrophic issues, of course
TAHR CHANT day three I will make tahr the new turkey lol
There aren't any cotw devs in this server btw
What! Really?
yeah so all the complaining and persistent asking for things here isn't going to do anything except possibly annoy people.
TK was on this chat less then a week ago
I'm not sure he's a dev though
He’s the a community manager they are the connection between EW and the community
That's different from actually working on the game.
The devs are the ones with the final say on it.
Im a DEV (Dead Every [V]day)
tahr tahr tahr tahr tahr tahr tahr tahr tahr tahr tahr tahr
so is it likely june 21 the map will drop?
Maybe
Of course they are, but the community managers are the key here because they have a limited but very real possibility of getting things considered. As a community that's the best we can ask for and expect. The suggestions don't come from entitlement and if they annoy people, then they can ignore it. That said it is bad when members of the community do feel entitled, (For anything other than bug fixes).
Unlikely. Theyre having the second half of the map reveal on the 22nd. Hopefully the 29th it'll hit us
I thought they were doing it this coming Tuesday
They are doing it this Tuesday
Yea this Tuesday. The 15th. My bad 😹
Was a week ahead of myself
No
Yea
I swear I saw at least one person with a "cotw dev" role or somethin
I know the classic devs are on here
ya
Alaska's biggest river, feel like it's important enough to warrant the reserve being named after it
Especially because the map has a big river
what river
starts in BC goes through Yukon and into alaska
Yukon
that's the name of the river ?
yea
weird
never heard of it
oh wait
nvm
Yukon River Delta
is what i always read
lol
something about the yukon valley icon being literally over alaska makes me think it's primarily an alaskan map, even if it does have a lot of features from canada
yes
it is in alaska
yes
the warden says it first words i belive lol
I actually forgot what the warden guy says, it's been a long time
both are in us we have no canada maps
so im guessing canads map will be like classic whiterime
with the reserves being on X number of countries
"Welcome to alaska"
alaska is mentioned many times in yukon's lore
Are we really questioning where yukon is?😂
And layton is in Canada lol
theres no way
I play with the voices and subtitles off, they got annoying after a while
looks nothing like BC
It's possible but I think it's more towards washington
Have you not seen the graphic that confirms it?
British Columbia isnt the only place in canada
.
Bc is layton
Germany, Spain, Russia, USA, New Zealand, somewhere in Africa, and Argentina is 7 countries
It says 8 countries
^
So Layton has to be Canada
Makes sense
i wonder which part of BC they based it off of or they based it off ther pacific north west
But then what's the 8th country
chile
What map is chile?
Ok well if we assume that each map is in one country, then it's one of the NA maps (excluding Mexico) that's not actually in the US
But the missions say Yukon is in Alaska, and TK said SRP is in Colorado
So therefore Layton has to be the impostor here
vurhonga is in South Africa
But lesser kudu don't live there lol
you sure ?
it's botswana i believe
100% sure
the lesser kudu thing is kind of weird since they roam around ethiopia, but every other animal is botswana/south africa
Doc canadian confirmed
It literally is
ah
didn't hear from doc since 2017
there should have been a track nearby
maybe it was a bear
is that in the codex
no it was a joke
you ain't helping
So we have Germany, Canada/USA, Russia, Botswana/South Africa, Argentina, USA, Spain, USA again, New Zealand, and now Mexico
so at 9
That's 10 reserves I think
idk why people have to argue where maps are when its very clear
it really isn't
how so
we in the wiki and even cotw people like meggles and TK can't even confirm which country layton is
the picture i linked above confirms it..
I ?
.
yeah no.
yeah no why?
Your very good at ignoring the facts on pictures
if aota says its canada its canada
^see what she wrote
are you saying what you typed here is wrong then or? I am confused
she don't know
Meggles
don't want to ping her but she answered by posting the wiki link
Pacific Northwest
really explicit
PN includes BC though
it also include the states of washington and oregon
Hirsch is germany no question
The Bunkers of WWI and the language on the outposts informations board
tell us it's germany
it's in german
Also Classic's Hirschfelden is confirmed to be Germany
Layton is in BC Yukon is in Alaska it’s really simple
Colton Locke, nicknamed "Doc", is the warden of the Layton Lake District Reserve. He is a self-taught game warden and has been a hunter all his life. Having grown up in the Pacific Northwest, he knows the region by heart but has spent many years away working at other reserves, most recently the Evergreen Hunting Reserve.
evergreen in classic ?
oh nvm
seems like evergreen is the whole collection of reserves of Classic
Without our influence on Alaska's delicate natural balance, life will only get tougher here at YUKON VALLEY
^that sentence is in the trailer
Anyways
I'le start building the wiki threads for the new reserve
so we have :
- Coyote
- Rio Grande Turkey
- Mule Deer
- White-Tailed Deer
- Collared Peccary
- Antelope Jackrabbit
- Mexican Bobcat
- Ring-Necked Pheasant
ring-necked
you're missing bighorns
just kidding. did they say anything about javelina, or are peccaries the only swine-kind?
when/if they make a coyote great one that better be what its based off 
or peccaries
seems a little empty with it capping out at level 6, but could be fun. if nothing else i can shoot whitetails somewhere else for awhile because i'm pretty much tired of looking at my Layton drink zones at this point
And I'm only about 750 animals in. No idea how some of these dudes have held together for like 12,000 whitetail
i meant class 6. nothing to even use the .300 on there
it be all like shotgun and M1 go brrrrrrrr
and .243 of course
how cool is it that the starter weapon is also end-game worthy?
idk
i'm lvl 60 and i still run around like a dumb idiot with the 243, 270 and 45-something
4570?
you should try the kudzik for moose. it's like the .338 on steroids
you do have to get close though
pretty much annihilates grizzlies too
I can't stress enough how good the M1 is compared to the .270. .303 is pretty decent too, but if you're just straight up murdering white tails the M1 is the balls
lol
currently transcripting the trailer
done
*"Out here, it's easy to lose your way. There’s nothing to guide you but the sun and your own instincts. Survival is never a guarantee, and only the shifting sands bury those who didn’t make it….. [Long pause]… This is Vaquero Country. Generations of cowboys have eked out a living on this land, through revolution, war, and everything in between. If you’re brave enough to strap a gun to your back and follow them, you might be surprised how alive everything really is.
Maybe you’ll spot a collared peccary scurrying through the brushy hills, or track a prize-winning whitetail from the woodlands to the desert…. You could hunker down and watch the elusive Mexican Bobcat stalk antelope jackrabbits….. Or why not meet our newest addition ? … But be warned… The ring-necked pheasant’s no ordinary avian… You’ve gotta make this bird use it’s wings…. It’s time for things to change… Either we keep on living as our forefathers did and lose our arroyo, the lifeblood of this bare earth, or we dare to carve our own path forward…. IF you can rise to the challenge… Rancho del Arroyo is ready for you."*
Hello back again for a TAHR CHANT that’s about it #tahr are the new turkey
After seeing the last FB video looks like no WT antler update 😢 Forget TAHR chant and lets chant for WT antler update!!!!
I'm pumped to finally have WT added to another map after 4 years but they seriously need an update!!
like the tail
I'm tired of seeing the 14 point,how they score it,version for all the diamonds. Give us a little variation. Shoot BT even have the newer antlers on them. Yes I know theres a couple different racks that make diamond since they lowered diamomd standard but its the same 14 point "base" variation. Please EW update WT antlers!!! 😹
why no massive atypicals (not GO) like classic?
Yes everybody keep screaming for nontypicals to be added. I know theyve said all truracks antlers must be done 1st. But WT need some kind of variation/update to them
Shoot its taken 4 years to get them on another map bit yet red deer,rabbits and pigs have gained multiple maps over far less time. I mean WT are way more popular than rabbits and piggies.
rabbits were a free addition to hirsch
BLEATS IN DEER
they were generous to add them in hirsch
instead of only adding them in Te Arawoa
otherwise it all different species
Agreed! The tails def need to be fixed. After all thats why tjeyre called WT and wave that white flag saying goodbye at you as they flee 😹
Exactly !
Also mule deer animation needs to be fixed as well. They dont run like WT. They hop so to speak as they run. But id much rather see them give us antler variation to WT more than anything.
Mule don't need to be fix
at least not now
their antlers were fixed
roosie and rocky got their furs
enhancements as well as red deers
axis got their scaling
Yes their antlers are good. I'm talking about their animations. They dont actually "run" like they do. They hop as they flee
But IDC about that. Id rather see EW give WT antlers some love and give them an update.
i would prefer their tails
but yes
aswell
HAHAHAHAHAH
Lvl 3 female bobcat be this
17 - 26 kg
Like seriously
no
Yeah they are way overweight
I 100% agree whitetail antlers need an update for sure
Is this better?
Actually, very
I don't think when i looked at white-tails i could see a fluffy tail
Diamond Antelope Jackrabbit is 6.30+, 4.60+ for Rio Grande Turkey
Rating
Resting time zone peccary
3 : 30 - 7 : 30
Likely one of the resting time periods for the animal
Eating
7:30 - 11 : 00
Does the GO rack in the teaser trailer look similar to this?
You think it was a GO ?
i dont think that's how mounts are supposed to look like\
🐞 Bug
The thing I don't like about the whitetail racks is that the tines are so skinny and sharp! Some of the gold whitetail racks are so thin and the bay tines are super long and thin too. The whitetail also need to flip up their tails when fleeing and need to be a bit more white.
Where did that screenshot of the whitetail on the new map come from btw?
twitter post
COUSO MODEL 1897
Introduced in the late nineteenth century, the Couso Model 1897 16-gauge pump-action shotgun is a respected piece of iron among hunters, police officers and soldiers alike. It can carry five shells in its tubular magazine and fire multiple shots in quick succession, making it a versatile weapon in the hands of any skilled hunter.
That's the new gun
Not much is known but that's a bit of knowledge
warden Salvador Soto Muñoz
^that's the warden
I wonder is Couso is a reference to cous deer
Any news on a release date yet? I need to go hunt some pheasants
No solid dates yet, but probably definitely within the next 2 or so weeks
Whitetails and other medium sized deer should do the thing where they hop around when fleeing like on four legs
And a thing that would be for all animals is to make them look at you when you are detected , not just stare into the void and flee
Someone knows when the new card will come
no
no release date yet
i bet the new map is mexico :shifty
Layton isn’t Canaafaln mule deer are the ones that hop
Tbh man EW really rammed everyone who likes bird hunting. How can you release a DLC called Duck and Cover, filled with blinds and decoys that literally don't work? What kind of lazy crap is that. Sadly I see this game going nowhere fast, and I can't wait to see where the competitor takes this genre of game.
Since bird hunting works the way it does they should NEVER have released waterfowl and instead should have immediately worked on pheasants acknowledging the behavior of the animals they had working. You can't just speed past things hoping your consumer is dumb enough not to care.
I straight up bought a DLC that doesn't work, a lot of you did too, and no one is complaining about it. No one. Maybe the community here is dumb enough for EW to take money from with little to no effort.
they did do a survey and it was recent about a proposed duck over haul so maybe it is happening
thehunter games develop over many years
I mean my stuff works pretty good so maybe it's just your hunting tactics
God I hate assholes like them
Im not very good, I dont know how, but I love the geese AI
Its real good the only thing i I would make em do is another lap before starting to go down or go down slower
How do you guys hunt ducks?
tent and waterfowl blind with decoys on a zone
How many decoys?
Thanks
Yes me to
On the goose part
Only thing I would change for ducks and geese is make them fly faster and smooth out some of the animations
But but if they were faster it would be harder to spot them to see which ones are the biggest
^
and considering that we'll have to spook pheasants to get a score on them, making them faster would make them more of a frustration
I really hope whistling will actually do that
True but for me I'd rather have fun fast flying ducks then oh look it's flying in one direction pretty slowly and being able to kill most of them really easily
And I'm also kind of shocked they did 16g and not 28g
i really hope they wont just copy paste turkey AI logic for the pheasants
bc altho not bad, the turkey AI is a bit lets say ... interesting
But hopefully it's like a crossbreed of turkey and it's on unique thing or completely its own unique thing
yea
is 28GA a popular bird hunting load? cuz i don't know much about guns but that seems like a very small caliber for hunting
it does seem small to me too
it's probably fine for birdshot but I don't think buckshot would be effective on any game bigger than maybe varmints
Yea 16 and 28 aren't used much anymore these days. Most people use 20 or 12. But 16 and 28 are effective for. Most upland birds. I Even use a .410 when I really want a challenge chasing grouse
By what I've known it's used for dove ptarmigan pheasant small upland birds
Grouse as well
so 28GA birdshot is probably fine
Yeah for smaller birds
but buckshots and slugs might not go higher than like, class 3 or 4
yea since its birdshot it should be fine but the others probably wont be that good
Lord help don't take it goose hunting
Oh yea. It'll kill them birds
bring a 28ga to a geese fight and end up with god geese
Lol
kek
huh, so I'm watching this vid on 28GA slugs and the guy says that it should be perfect for whitetails within 100 yards
I mean I thank it's still a 30cal slug if not bigger so
Yeah by what the internet says 28 gauge slug is on par with 44 magnum shell and people hunt deer with 44 Magnums so interesting
I had a dumb moment
2000 yd is roughly 1.5 MI just a little under
i c
there aren't. probably because so few people bother completing the side missions. the steam achievement completion rates for those are < 2%
people usually try to finish the main ones before attacking them
I got difficulty with the bear quest (take 2 pictures of bears, i believe at the same time) in Layton and the Sommer's quest of taking a fox within x meters with a bow
Other than that, i finished Medved, Vurg, Parque, Yukon, Cuatro and Te and SRP
Some side missions in Layton and Hirsch specially are just stupid
snipe a blacktail from 200m away in an area that literally has no blacktail need zones
kill two foxes around this lake in a ground blind, but none of the ground blinds that we give you have LoS to the water
kill three boars on this lake with no boar need zones, have fun chasing them from a need zone 2km away into the mission area
This is why people don't do side missions imo
I know I often get sidetracked, you're supposed to hunt a specific animal in a specific area, but the next minute you see a big rating on something else.
And before you know it you're on the other side of the map hunting literally every single animal in the reserve, but the one you set out to hunt
I hated the Hirschfelden story mission I think maybe. Where you have to shoot 10 wild boars that are over 200 lb I think within 150m or 164yds
No range requirement, just 10 boars of 100kg or more
Honestly that one was just fine with me, it just took a while~
I didn’t like it at all. Took me a while because all I got was females under the 200lb or 100kg ranges
I actually completed those missions and I gotta say they were ridiculously hard. 500+ hours and Im still doing the fox by the lake in a ground blind one, but Ive completed all of Layton. I gotta say without the dlc theyd be even more difficult.
Side missions are cool they make you know a map better
Just joined. And just got game downloaded. Tried playing but seems like I can never get animals to come to me or find them.. I track forever but as soon as i get a visual they run. Anyone have a beginner guide
@keen stag Hunting water sources is usually a good idea. If you go on Layton lake and walk up the rivers you’re bound to find animals. Try to crouch down when you get close to them so they are less likely to run away
I like the side missions, just some are hard.
There’s some good beginner series on YouTube like Flinter’s
although its kinda outdated
Kinda but still applies well
Never ever run and always hunt near water
That way you can always spot animals before they sense you
Also if you are tracking make sure the poop is fresh but it doesn't says just now because there is a good chance that you have already spooked them
Track needzones and they will appear in your map with an approximate time frame when you can find the specie there
If you approach needzones slowly you can catch the animals off guard
Spook distances by different movements
Running 200m
Walking 150m
Crouched 50m
Crawling 10m
Staying still and hidden -10m
Approach animals with the wind cone on your back
And you should be set to hunt diamonds
<@&393042322499305473> is this legal?
She sent em to all the chats on the server I think
running is 150m, walking is like 120m
at least in my experience
Depending on the level of the animal. High level animals will spook between 180-190 when running
Low level animals won’t spook until about 150
also depends on wind direction. i've had em spook as far out as 240-250m if they're directly downwind
I think you are right
Ah hell I think you guys are all right
I only aproach diamonds from long distances
So maybe thats why Im paranoid
This chat is still active? I thought that meggels or tk would have de activated it by now
Unless
There’s still more clues to be found
The clue, I am. The question you seek, it is Skywalker
I think it's because the map's not released yet
Yes running is 150m but if you don't have all the soft feet perks its around 180m. And NEVER use backpacks cause it increases the spook range by like 30-50m
Backpacks may be tempting to use but you will always spook way more animals using them
I use the little one
Even that one increases it by like 30m
I don't usually stalk animals, in that I prefer hunting by tripod/treestand/hunting stand and waiting for things to come to me
now if it's preferable that I stalk something, I'll put the pack away, but some maps you kind of have to cover the entire class range to be fully prepared
Hirsch, for example
Hmmm I've had better luck since having it lol
The closet I've got to anything we about 25m
Stalking
Maybe 20
ajsfk; that's way closer than where I'd usually get to
50-75 meters is what I consider optimal short-range
I'd only risk that on a map/in an area that doesn't have anything that'd potentially aggro on me 😂
I am overcautious
Or in the case I got my diamond red deer on to of a rock lol
I've yet to see one myself tbh
Top*
though I have a feeling Cuatro's going to be one of my go-to maps, so maybe I'll get one
I was trying to get a little one and here came big boy over a hill liking the red deer caller got him at 50m is where he stopped
Dropped him with a heart shot I was about to have a heart attack
ooh
i got my diamond red deer from... 334 meters?
Lol had one a little one come in a little before him that came it to 15m behind me
Then hauled ass when he seen me
i think... i'd honestly have to check
Understandable, i just use the pack mule perk so i can carry 4 rifles on maps that require it
290.75m
ah, but when you need multiple callers, you still run out of space
even with that skill
i literally dont bring any callers
With the way i play i never use callers so that might be why i never need much more space
ayy we're twins scarecrow
Callers can be useful for getting something to at least slow down
xD
or to coax whatever it is out of some bushes
i bringt every one i need for the map
nah i take my shots hard and risky
True but i just use the .22 trick to get stuff to stop
shot a diamond lynx while it was running away last night from 75 meters
Lol thats risky on a lynx
try a 200 meter running heartshot.
proof
206.92 meters and I hadn't even been aiming for the heart.

Really? Because I can carry the 22, 243, m1 or 303, 300, binoculars, medkits and tents at the same time with pack mule. Because the 303/m1 weight is 3.5, the 300 weight is 4, the 22 weight is either 1.5 or 2.5 can't remember off of the top of my head and the 243 weight is like 3 or under so i can carry plenty of stuff with this loadout even without pack mule. Which is why I feel they need redo the whole gun system and change the weights on the guns because there's no reason to use the 338 or 7mm as part of a main loadout (unless you don't own any dlc's) when they weigh more and are only single shots.
7mm can save you 4 in that since you wouldn't need the 300
7mm is 4.5
While the 300 is 4
Oh I get it now, yes if you only carry 3 guns then you can have even more space
Yes
i like having the 300 for slightly bigger bois
I have .22 .243 (or mosin when lvl 2s not around) 7mm and .300 .22 lvl1s 243 lvl2s and 3s mosin lvl3s 7mm 4s-6s .300 7-9s
7mm will go to 4-8s when render gets fixed
you can cut out the mosin if you just use the 243 for 3s too
Yeah I use it on 3s If 2s are not on the map
i love the mosin
Me to
Goat ded
Like bame
If it had Polly's daamn it would be more havoc
Ive killed reds with it and didn't like it I wish they was 7s
300 would be beautiful on it or make the .300 6-9 class
Lol
I thought I had the 22 out and leveled a poor little turk with the 7mm once
And thought I had the 300 out and tryed to kill a grizzly with the 22 once
22 don't do shit to a grizz
Head shots?
Lol