🦡︴cotw-scotland

[raven sigil]

Yeh

[glacial oasis]

dawg no one is forcing you to buy the maps

the devs need money from the people who do buy them

this is their JOB

this is their bread and butter

[midnight valve]

COTW is appealing to an american market truthfully $12 In the US really is not much.

[glacial oasis]

dude

sundar is R118 for me

south african rand

thats NOTHING compared to the scale of the map

the work thats put behind it

i spent that R118 with a smile on my face

[shy onyx]

Starting the morning like this eh

[glacial oasis]

and R100 is a lot for me

[midnight valve]

I'm not saying its pocket change but since american currency Is kind of the standard, the cross country conversions somewhat reflects that.

[last schooner]

lmao

you pay half of what everyone else pays

no wonder

[glacial oasis]

??

[next hornet]

I hope the map is not more than 15 dollars

[glacial oasis]

NO steam game has currency conversion be 1:1

[shy onyx]

It'll be $11.99 in total, they usually do a release day sale

[glacial oasis]

terraria was like R100 for me

or R109 i cant remember

[thin hatch]

Paid 7.99 for patan and 5.99 for fox park 🤷‍♀️ if it is 12 only map i prob wont get until much later like a normal person with saveings

[glacial oasis]

what is terraria's price in USD?

[midnight valve]

118 Rand is 10.54 USD? and South african are horribly underpaid and signifantly lower wages than aus without a doubt.

[glacial oasis]

^

[next hornet]

Ok thanks I also think this will be the price

[midnight valve]

Google says the average wage Is $20,000

[glacial oasis]

@last schooner again dude this money is the devs' bread and butter

[last schooner]

6.60usd asuming current conversion rates

[glacial oasis]

this is their income

[thin hatch]

They also seem to love thier fanbase

[midnight valve]

Where are you getting that conversion from?

[glacial oasis]

look up terraria's price for me on steam

whats your currency

[shy onyx]

$9.99

[glacial oasis]

okay give me a moment

[last schooner]

googles conversion rates from whatever their source is

[glacial oasis]

terraria is R100 for me

[midnight valve]

Ah I see, I did 188 instead of 118 by mistake.

[glacial oasis]

no game has 1:1 conversion rates

[last schooner]

so 5.60usd

[glacial oasis]

your point being?

R100 is a lot for me

R100 is a lot for a south african

[static tree]

the maps goona same amount as sunder prob

[glacial oasis]

i know damn well R100 feels as much to a south african as 10 USD does to an american

[last schooner]

what even is your wage

[shy onyx]

It does I imagine

[glacial oasis]

i dont work

what does that have to do with anything

get YOUR money up if you're mad about the dlc prices

the devs need their money too

[last schooner]

because hours of your life can be compared between countries

[glacial oasis]

???

again no one's making you buy the maps dawg

like holy

[midnight valve]

Still though when the national average Is $20,000 in south africa versus your country what is at least, 50,000 usd (I knocked it a bit down too 80,000 $100,000 aud seems a bit much according to google) the steam pricing has to reflect that, If we price across all countries $12 USD in there relective currency there will literally be countries where Its months of there wages.

[last schooner]

youre not even addressing my point anymore

[glacial oasis]

what is your point

[midnight valve]

If you really want to cheese it go buy a key off a website that's been bought in a forigin country for lower price lol

[last schooner]

how many hours does it take you to buy a map compared to an american

asuming normal wages

[midnight valve]

Or I guess your xbox and already pay a subscription for internet basically.

[glacial oasis]

it takes me couple minutes to input my card information

[static tree]

guys can we not agrue about money stuff

[midnight valve]

idk we've been yapping idk what device your on anymore

[thin hatch]

I thought it was about map prices?

[static tree]

it isnt

[midnight valve]

Logistically though your looking at 4 hours at least right? where the states at most its 2 hours with minium wage

[midnight moon]

30 mins of work

[midnight valve]

looking at that national wage

[glacial oasis]

its like 2 hours

2-4

i wouldnt work for 2 hours for R100 tho

thats outrageous

R100 is a lot but not enough to justify 2 hours of work

[midnight moon]

2 hrs on minimum wage? Bs

[midnight valve]

Some states even have $12 as minium per hour, some more

either way regardless Its pretty much inline equivelent.

[glacial oasis]

in places like johannesburg renting an apartment costs R10k

[midnight valve]

In aus! the national minium wage is $24 an hour....

You can buy that DLC even after taxes 🙃

[shy onyx]

In the US it's $7...

[static tree]

for a full time job yes

[midnight moon]

Cool story but is the map worth it?

[static tree]

part time i think its 13

[last schooner]

does the adult american minimum wage start at 18 or at 21

[glacial oasis]

this guy got mad about the prices being 12 dollars and is now mad that im from a poor country

[thin hatch]

Seems lol

[glacial oasis]

and i pay "half of what everyone else does"

[shy onyx]

Eighteen

[last schooner]

are you purposely trying to victimise yourself

[midnight valve]

Yeah but in reality we should be basing this off full time pay (in reality)

[last schooner]

australias 24 dollar rate is for like 21 or 22 year olds

[static tree]

no

its as soon as u have a full time job

so can be 16+

[last schooner]

18yo wage is 17.64 for full time

[glacial oasis]

even tho, tied down to worth, 12 dollars is around the same as R118

[last schooner]

i wish i was paid 24 dollars at 18 for a full time position

[static tree]

no

[midnight valve]

I dont think the US has any pay differences between youngsters and full blown adults.

[static tree]

its like 18 and a bit

[midnight moon]

Who cares. Either buy the map or don't

[static tree]

yes

[glacial oasis]

no im just confused as to why me being from south africa is a big issue

[midnight valve]

BUT that allows states and buisnesses to underpay under 21s

hell

[glacial oasis]

im focusing on YOUR original point

[midnight valve]

even over 21s.

[glacial oasis]

the maps being "too pricey"

even though this is the dev's income dawg

[last schooner]

yeah they doubled the price

[glacial oasis]

because of inflation

[last schooner]

doubling is alot

[midnight valve]

Unless your state has a minium wage besides the national min wage, for all intended purposes you can be paid $7 as a 30 year old.

[glacial oasis]

EVERYTHING BUT WAGES increase from inflation

thats just how it is

[thin hatch]

Im boutta scroll up just to see where this even started dam o.O

[midnight moon]

More Dev time as well. But this map doesn't appear so

[glacial oasis]

they've had the original prices for YEARS

like since what 2017??

[midnight valve]

Eh those snow mechanics you'd be surprised at how techinal it gets.

[shy onyx]

Yep

[static tree]

dont botha ima boughta call a mod to stop em

so silly

[midnight valve]

Its a useless feature dont get me wrong, but the coding behind dynamic snow is pretty intensive.

[static tree]

this is way off topic

[thin hatch]

Fr like i come here for the hype o.o

[shy onyx]

So, you like the new map? 😅

[last schooner]

i wish the map had more missions too but its only got 13 which idk how many are main and side missions

[glacial oasis]

being mad that the prices increase for the dlcs is like being mad grocery prices increase

[midnight moon]

Makes up for lack of species variation?

[static tree]

hell yes

[glacial oasis]

like its gonna happen

[static tree]

its gonna have 5g1s on it

[shy onyx]

Same partner, my favorite map already

[midnight valve]

Regardless SA & US have it priced more unfair than Aus in all reality but none of us are complaning lol.

[glacial oasis]

yeah

cause YOU DONT HAVE to buy the map....

theres no monthly/yearly subscription

buy it when you have money to blow

[static tree]

its not my favorite till i play it

[shy onyx]

Hell I'll buy it for you if y'all stop lol

[midnight moon]

You what?

[glacial oasis]

money to waste

spend

[midnight moon]

The joke

[last schooner]

"you dont have to buy it" is the worst thing that has come out of inflation

[shy onyx]

Fair but I know I'm gonna love it already, can't wait for those mountain goats

[glacial oasis]

so like idk

stop inflation

[midnight moon]

Gl

[glacial oasis]

yea

overthrow capitalism or something

[thin hatch]

Gotta wave a magic wand who knows

[midnight moon]

Some genius needs to invent a better system

[glacial oasis]

i hate the concept of money as much as the next girl but theres nothing that can be done

[shy onyx]

Y'all can we not

[thin hatch]

Mood

[static tree]

i hope floaters arnt a issue

[glacial oasis]

if i didnt have money to buy the map i wouldnt have complained about the price......

[shy onyx]

Like bodies in water?

[glacial oasis]

i would have waited till i got money

[static tree]

yes

[midnight moon]

We can

[shy onyx]

Ah yeah, beaver might be an issue, I'm really curious about their mechanics and behavior

[midnight moon]

How much they price this one?

[glacial oasis]

12 usd

i assume it will be the same as sundar

[lethal cairn]

Its just buy this map instead of one lunch, its so simple

[thin hatch]

Im interested to see what kinda rares the beves will be

[static tree]

my 300 is not goona be fun for em

[midnight valve]

Also COTW maps either release june of december usually, If your not able to budget into affording $12 USD when you know Its coming out respectfully I do not think gaming should be your worry at that time.

I think people should be allowed to game Its an escape from reality, but its a non essencial DLC that can be played almost entirely fully on multiplayer games.

[midnight moon]

Might be good on special

[glacial oasis]

yea

dawg

i bought cotw for R27 when it was on a huge sale

[shy onyx]

I ain't taking part in the revenge thing but I wish ya luck lol

[glacial oasis]

buy selling and buying steam trading cards

i perfectly calculated each cent i would need to get by selling and buying each card

[static tree]

na i just find it funny

[midnight moon]

I got most content full price lol

[static tree]

their cute asf

[shy onyx]

They are

[thin hatch]

I hope theres albino beves

[midnight valve]

I used too like primal carnage for that dinosaur V human game, but the drops a few years ago could go for $$ pretty often.

[static tree]

even my mum loves em lmao

[midnight valve]

The markets dead now for it, but I made a good $125-150 on that game with minimal trying.

[midnight moon]

Hopefully shaven ones too

[shy onyx]

Primal Carnage is awesome

[glacial oasis]

DAMN LMAO

yeah ik primal carnage

only FPS game i like

well

combat FPS

[midnight valve]

I'm not sure what they did, it was when they added "evolved" it tanked all the old legendary skins p sure.

[thin hatch]

I hope they remake it like they planned to...PC was a good one

[glacial oasis]

oh no same lmao, i just bought the base game on that huge sale

[shy onyx]

Same

[glacial oasis]

ive spent a fair share of money on this game.......

[midnight valve]

I got a spino control collar the halloween they got added, easiest $50 of my life

coner? wtf brain

[glacial oasis]

LOL

[shy onyx]

And there I was, working cattle for less 😭

[midnight moon]

I haven't played since sundar

This map though? Hmm

[glacial oasis]

im gonna be 100% i regret buying salz

[thin hatch]

Im playing off and on cuz i still lack a G1

[glacial oasis]

i spawnedi n

immediately left

never played again

[midnight moon]

You didn't see that coming?

Their fill in maps suck

[midnight valve]

I'm gonna have a look later on the steam website and see if I can acess my old cloud saves and see if I can get my original COTW account back

[glacial oasis]

no see the thing is i bought it cause i thought my birdwatcher friend was gonna get the game

didnt happen

[midnight moon]

G1? Whats that

[glacial oasis]

but i dont blame HIM lmao

[thin hatch]

Great one

[midnight moon]

Dewit

[glacial oasis]

nah

hes cool

[static tree]

shouldnt of bought it

[midnight moon]

Rephrase, who has time for that?

[glacial oasis]

i do

for the next 7 months

[thin hatch]

People with big sad 👍

[glacial oasis]

👽

[midnight moon]

Lol

[glacial oasis]

until i start my visual communications course..

[potent bane]

Employed with 6 great ones guys it's possible trust

[midnight moon]

Yea cooo

L

[shy onyx]

G1's are for nerds

[glacial oasis]

empl*yed

[potent bane]

😭

[thin hatch]

I want one just to saw i have one xD

Say**

[limber cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/malcom-there-it-is-gif-11114058655658354411

[shy onyx]

Kidding 😅 (kinda)

[midnight moon]

Maybe if sacrificing all other hobbies

[glacial oasis]

me when someone starts throwing the j and c slurs

J*b

[glacial oasis]

true

[shy onyx]

Yup, there it is

[thin hatch]

Still rather get the G1 by myself though cuz it wouldn't feel right cheating one in (and cuz you cant on xbox less the xbox is jailbroken im p sure)

I would settle for a whitetail low score g1 even xDD

[glacial oasis]

i would really love a moose great one

[midnight moon]

Tahr g1

[glacial oasis]

that too

[thin hatch]

Skullface tahr is the one i want q_q

[midnight moon]

I get a rl tahr diamond first

[glacial oasis]

sameeee

[shy onyx]

That is my favorite varient for them

[thin hatch]

Its so badass

[shy onyx]

I don't grind though so I will never see one 😔

[thin hatch]

Tahr hate me so same

[shy onyx]

I still haven't killed a diamond

Got one rare though

[neat flint]

I don't grind and I got a Fallow Great One

[thin hatch]

Ill cry if i spawn a g1 in emeralds enclosure tho

[shy onyx]

Well I don't possess whatever magic powers you have

[neat flint]

Do you have Te Awaroa?

[shy onyx]

Yeah

[thin hatch]

Oh yeah they added tahr to that one

[neat flint]

try hunting down the big north to south river and all along the bottom coastline.. that's where I found mine

[potent bane]

Nahhhh you just gotta sacrifice your friends

[neat flint]

What are friends 😛

[thin hatch]

All my friends are dead push me to the edge?

[potent bane]

Great one spawning in 3...2...1..

[neat flint]

yay

[shy onyx]

I don't really want a G1, but if I am to ever change my mind I much appreciate the advice

[neat flint]

No worries, I don't actually care for the G1's all that much, I prefer the plumage variations on waterfowl.

[thin hatch]

I only ever seen a G1 whitetail that ran past me...never found it next day a new map released so i lost him...

I think ima start a grind today 🤣😭

[jade wyvern]

Ugh make it an even 20 and add Canadian lynx 😩😩😩😩

[shy onyx]

Beautiful

[last crater]

Y'all think the great one is mulie or grey wolf?

[mighty dove]

So after yesterday, I have to say I am excited for the map. I have seen some disappointment regarding the species list and how half of the animals are "reused" and I totally get it, but along with it comes remodels and I don't think people realize how long it takes to do it and do it good. Plus I think we will get an Arctic map down the road that will have polar bears. Hopefully anyway. The new animals are great, too. June 17th can't come fast enough

[mighty dove]

I don't think it will be a predator species, but antlered

Mule is the most probable but it could be Elk or Caribou too

[limber cliff]

I would be so hype if it was the wolf.
I'd also laugh if it was beavers because they can backfill on so many maps

[glacial oasis]

MY POINT TOO

[last crater]

I think it might be wild cuz they keep showing them off but I hope it's mulie

[glacial oasis]

If they remodel an animal... that means they make an entirely new model, rig, animations, and if they remake the AI then that boils down to just as much work as a new animal

We got the work of around 10 new species with all the remodels

[last crater]

I genuinely think it will be my favorite map it's all my favorite species and then new species that look awesome and the snow looks amazing

[vivid peak]

No wolverines, no grizzlies, no snowshoe hares..

[mighty dove]

Plus new animal behavior like the beavers cutting down trees that can actually hurt you

[glacial oasis]

Yea

[glacial oasis]

Their time will come one day maybe

[last crater]

The no grizzlies is really weird

[mighty dove]

I swear if I am tracking an animal and then die by a tree falling on me I am going to laugh, cry, laugh some more and then close the game

[vivid peak]

I guess they are hibernating

[shy onyx]

And not every map can just have entirely new species, that's not how nature works, some animals have very wide ranges, and yeah it's nice to have variety but it is also nice to be able to hunt the same animals in a variety of locations

[vivid peak]

But still

[mighty dove]

I totally get it

[plucky mauve]

Do we know if there will be any pop resets ?

[vivid peak]

Snowshoe hare at the least would have been the cherry on top

Instead we got, mallard..

[glacial oasis]

Maybe one day bro

[vivid peak]

One can only hope

Snowshoe hares and wolverines, maybe cougars, and grizzlies would make it the map of all time, but hey, maybe one day we'll get a backfill.

[mighty dove]

I am not saying not to be disappointed. People can be! I am just trying to shine some light on why they may have chose the animals they did

[glacial oasis]

^

[last crater]

I think Miriam turkey are in Alberta too

[glacial oasis]

like personally im still disappointed by the mallards

[mighty dove]

I think in order to please a lot of people, they will need more than six months to do a map

[glacial oasis]

but NO ONE said its the last NA map

[last crater]

I hope it's not I need dall sheep

[vivid peak]

Exactly, I was devastated

[mighty dove]

Same honestly

[last crater]

Mallard was so disappointing I was hoping they were saving grizzlies or musk ox or something for the last reaveal

[vivid peak]

Turkeys would be really nice backfills to alberta too

Mm, spelling.

[midnight valve]

I believe COTW almost always reuses rigs and animations, pretty much every animal uses the same skeleton

[vivid peak]

Yeah, wolverine or snowshoe hare maybe.

[patent moon]

Like Grizzlies and Black bears/wolves... oh wait

[midnight valve]

Obviously they all dont share the same skeleton, predators and deer for example are different

[patent moon]

God damn pheasants

[midnight valve]

but all the deer are identical, literally.

[vivid peak]

Muskox would be great too

I think it'd be cool if they added the entire skeleton of the animal

Like you could hit bone.

[midnight valve]

Like you see the mule deer(?) in the alberta trailer trotting with there head slightly tilted to the right, all deer in the game do that same trotting animation.

[vivid peak]

And arteries, but that would be really difficult to add

[unborn sigil]

Indeed. We see it all the time tho when a map releases there's always complaining. And people don't realize how much work goes into new animals. They always use old animals to help save time like you're saying. It's a lot of work then people complain how much the dlc costs.

[mighty dove]

I would be fine with a map releasing once a year if it means they can take their time with it and not be rushed, but I know financially they may not be able to do it

[glacial oasis]

fair point

[vivid peak]

I am thrilled about the new map, but the mallards and pheasants, the lack of snowshoe hare and no wolverines, really hurt

It was a dissapointment

[glacial oasis]

there would need to be adjustments to the rigs regardless tho if the proportions differ

[vivid peak]

But I'll still buy the map of course

It's still great from the looks of it

[mighty dove]

That's really fair. Like I said I don't want people to think they can't be disappointed. There are things about this map that are disappointing

But you know, some people are just hateful about it

[vivid peak]

Yeah, that's messed up

It does take tons of time for maps to come out

And they put effort in them none the less

Even if some animals don't get added

[fervent sundial]

I'd prefer if Phes and mallard, weren't a thing but I'm not too disappointed by the map, again the new great one is really all I care aboit

If it's a bird, the map gets ignored

If not, it doesn't

Although it does look quite nice

[glacial oasis]

my money is on grey wolves

or bighorns

[jovial spade]

90% sure it's muley

[glacial oasis]

yeah that too

[jovial spade]

There was a leaked pic

[glacial oasis]

what

[jovial spade]

It said 'Great one mule deer'

[fervent sundial]

Anything other than a class 1 species and I'm cool

[last crater]

It might be wolf cuz they keep shaking them off

[glacial oasis]

where??

[jovial spade]

@glacial oasis

[glacial oasis]

dawg what

[fervent sundial]

Yeah that's a straight up leak XD

I'll be damned

[last crater]

That's awesome antlered great one are awesome

[jovial spade]

I'd prefer wolves

[mighty dove]

Lmao where is that from

[glacial oasis]

interesting

well there goes the money i wouldve bet on wolves/bighorns

[last crater]

Also there refusal to fix plumage types for the turkey and Mallard is genuinely so weird

[jovial spade]

The source is somewhere in https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1376950489585025024

[fervent sundial]

Huh, well

[glacial oasis]

thats actually insane

[fervent sundial]

That is pretty insane

[glacial oasis]

if thats the case i would never have expected them to be that forward about it

[fervent sundial]

Kinda sad tho I wish it was kept secret

[mighty dove]

Article from a non-credible source though?

[jovial spade]

It was a leak

Nothing on EW's part

[jovial spade]

Tahr was revealed in a source like this

[mighty dove]

Ouch. Well it's still pretty awesome no matter how we found out

[glacial oasis]

yea

honestly

[mighty dove]

Wonder who keeps leaking though. That's messed up

[glacial oasis]

^

[jovial spade]

Yeah

I kinda want to know, but at the same time...

[fervent sundial]

Its leakers, I'm ngl kinda disappointed we just didn't find out in game, although tbf hackers would've found it first anyway so 🤷‍♂️

[last crater]

I need a velvet antler variation for the GO mulie

[glacial oasis]

oh well

[jovial spade]

BUT

It could be wrong

[glacial oasis]

its about time muleys got love

[jovial spade]

You never know

[fervent sundial]

Its a lose lose situation

[fervent sundial]

Guess we'll see when the hackers come in the day of the update

[mighty dove]

It's alright. It's only the Great One. The leak could have been much worse imo

We all kinda knew it would probably be Mulie anyway

[fervent sundial]

"only the great one"

[last crater]

They been revealing the great ones before they release anyways

[fervent sundial]

Most important part for most

[fervent sundial]

Exactly, I think seeing the art would've been bussin

[mighty dove]

I mean the leak could have leaked their road map for the next few years vs telling us about the next great one sort of deal

[fervent sundial]

Guess we'll see

[mighty dove]

I know it's still sucky

[fervent sundial]

If they store that info, but yeah absolutely

Leakers are quite annoying

[mighty dove]

Let me join EW and I will tell you

HAHA

[fervent sundial]

Lol

[mighty dove]

(I am kidding EW)

[glacial oasis]

ya know

im hoping EW has some sort of advisor when it comes to animals/landscapes

i hope that will be the case for the future africa maps

[fervent sundial]

Let's goooo EoL daytime defeated in Terraria

Terraprisma

[fervent sundial]

Doubtful

[glacial oasis]

they need advice from actual hunters in the regions they make

or someone who has knowledge about the animals

[fervent sundial]

Fair

That's expensive tho

[glacial oasis]

less people would complain about the maps though

and we wouldnt end up with another vurhonga

[last crater]

Vurhonga is sick the animal models are just outdated

[glacial oasis]

vurhonga is fine

everything could be better

but the landscape is much better than the animals

[fervent sundial]

Still would be pricey, and not worth it, they do well enough research imo

[glacial oasis]

they did NOT with vurhonga

[keen cosmos]

Professional Hirsch hater i can’t 💀💀

[last crater]

Hirsh is so pretty tho

[keen cosmos]

Indeed

[glacial oasis]

first off they said its in botswana

looks nothing like botswana

on the map it isnt situated on botswana

and lesser kudu arent in southernmost africa

they should have added greater kudu to vurhonga and when ever they made a tanzania/kenya map added lesser kudu

[ripe cobalt]

Lol, full species list comes out and we loose interest and start talking about Africa.

[glacial oasis]

no?

what an odd thing to say

i cant wait for the new map

im just talking about the future for africa maps

[last crater]

It's just a conversation the species list for Alberta is awesome

I think the next one is Africa 2.0 but sunderpotan was a complete surprise so IDK anymore

[ripe cobalt]

The bevers are the only thing offering new gameplay. I've already hunted all the other "new" animals. We need more new behaviors.

[glacial oasis]

wolves have new behavior

[ripe cobalt]

Sundarpatan was loaded with new experiences.

[glacial oasis]

yeah cause its an entire new continent with never before seen animals other than water buffalo and blackbuck..

[last crater]

The older species are looking so good

[glacial oasis]

things are gonna be marginally different

[ripe cobalt]

So there was no other species in Alberta that could have offered new behaviors?

[full raptor]

M still excited for Alberta, I just really hope wolves got a rework

[glacial oasis]

they DID

wolves got built from the ground up

[full raptor]

HELL YEA

[glacial oasis]

new models, animations and behavior

[full raptor]

I’m also excited for new elk, but wolves in a new map was the main point for me 💀

[last crater]

The new models are are so good and the elk are amazing

[glacial oasis]

im very excited for the wolves

i hope there is a multimount for them

[last crater]

There's already is

There's two

[ripe cobalt]

Wolverines would have gotten me to buy full price. But I just don't feel exited enough, gotta wait for a sale. There's still 2 other maps i can check out the wolves on.

[glacial oasis]

i agree on that

i wouldve preferred wolverines over mallards

but alas

[last crater]

Thats fair the lack of grizzlies is disappointing

[glacial oasis]

oh right

i remember one

where theres only wolves

but isnt the other one with a plains bison

[feral wedge]

yes

[glacial oasis]

hm

hopefully they get one more with one of these species here

id like a multimount with the beavers

[mighty dove]

Would have preferred grizzlies over black bear and wolverines over mallards

[glacial oasis]

^

pheasants are......

fine

but snoeshoe hares wouldve been better

[mighty dove]

Polar bears, arctic fox, and snowshoe hare on the same map would be a dream

[glacial oasis]

im gonna be honest though

i really think its high time they start focusing on africa

like at least give us one new africa map before going back to other continents again

[vital blaze]

Snowshoe hare was a missed opportunity

[last crater]

This is too real

[feral wedge]

we need elands

on africa 2.0

[glacial oasis]

yea

IMPALA

we really need impala

impala are such a staple of african hunting

[rough tree]

we need gazelle so we can complete the lev

[glacial oasis]

honest to god

[rough tree]

knowers know

[mighty dove]

Impala and gazelles grazing in the same pastures omg

[glacial oasis]

those who snow:

[opal vortex]

is that right? Mule deer is the new great one?

[glacial oasis]

apparently

[mighty dove]

Apparently but nothing has been confirmed by EW

[plain star]

Lev

Blizzarf Panthers Prey

[rough tree]

LOSER, all animals escaped

[inland kite]

HUNT BIRDS WITH SNIPER GUN

[ripe cobalt]

Ther are too obsessed with great ones. They want as many great one species on any new map that comes out. This map will have 6 great ones.... Black bears should be swapped with grizzlies.

[glacial oasis]

EXPANSIVE WOOORLDS, GIVE ME BABOONS AND AFRICAN LEOPARDS, AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

[rough tree]

Jungle Deer Hunting Games 3D

[plain star]

Chrocodile

[rough tree]

(in Alaska/Canada)

[dreamy goblet]

Yea....Normal Hunting is deffinetly supperior to Great One grinding.

[rough tree]

And that's fine, it's okay that some people focus on getting great ones. They're not "playing the game wrong" for playing that way, it's just a different way to enjoy the game

[inland kite]

TAKE RIGHT AIM

[ripe cobalt]

They could remove mallards and whitetail and just have 17 species, and I'd feel exactly the same about the map as I do now.

[glacial oasis]

TAKE RIGHT AIM

[dreamy goblet]

NEVER TAKE LEFT AIM!!!!

[mighty dove]

LMAO

[dreamy goblet]

What have they done to that poor lion...hes...seen some things..

[inland kite]

Think if you do both, right and left aim simultaneously, you can screenshot 😂

[glacial oasis]

its canines are so small

all its teeth are

[rough tree]

the incisors basically don't exist😭

[latent lance]

I wish they added wolverine’s to the new map

[dreamy goblet]

He doesnt have incisors at all 😭

[ripe cobalt]

I meant "they" as in Expansive Worlds. The company. I don't have a problem with great one grinding.

[rough tree]

I haven't really gotten that vibe from them, we don't really have many GO species, just that the GO species are widespread bc the animals are everywhere irl

[glacial oasis]

is that a cotw deer

[plain star]

Yes

Yes it is

[glacial oasis]

god almighty

[mighty dove]

Omg

It's so horrendous but terrific at the same time

[dreamy goblet]

Ah yes, who doesnt love a Lions favourite pray animal...the white tail..

[ripe cobalt]

Swap black bear with grizzlies on Aski Ridge!

[inland kite]

Shoutout to the springbok (I think) in the back, he be nonchalant and shi

[limpid dock]

Lucky

[mighty dove]

Doc: "a trailer traveling with a lion tipped over and the lion escaped. it's somewhere on the reserve. find it and shoot it"

[plain star]

Lion hunting a great one whitetail, yk something that happens everyday in Canada

[glacial oasis]

nah issa gazelle

[dreamy goblet]

NGL. We need more doc, Ive grown sooo attached to him back in Classic...

[glacial oasis]

thompson's it looks

[plain star]

Oh with a gazelle in the background

[mighty dove]

I AGREE

[inland kite]

Still, it's just chilling in the background 😂

[glacial oasis]

fun fact the genus name for springbok means "not a gazelle"

[plain star]

So you can complete the lev

[glacial oasis]

antidorcas

springbok are really weird

[shy onyx]

But cool

[rough tree]

ah my favorite, hunting giraffes in the Pacific Northwest with my questionably-styled rifle

[limpid dock]

That thing looks straight out of bloody COD

[shy onyx]

I love playing CSGO on Afrilayton

[inland kite]

Variety of animals 😂

[plain star]

I wonder what that deer is from

[limpid dock]

Cotw whitetail and the png rabbit got me dying

[mighty dove]

I want more Doc and I want Baden to come back just to die again

Tree falling on him

[dreamy goblet]

While we're at it. Just to throw out a piece of respect to the OG HooCairs. He was the GOAT for learning THC.

[glacial oasis]

dawg is that LAYTON

[rough tree]

YEAH

[glacial oasis]

LMAOOO

[limpid dock]

You can see the blending to make the giraffes legs go into the grass

[plain star]

I love the png grizzly in the back

[glacial oasis]

if EW wanted they could bleed these mfs dry

[rough tree]

bleed them dry of what? i don't think there's anything to bleed them of lol

[rough tree]

LMAOO SJFJSJDJAJ i didn't even see that

[glacial oasis]

everything

[plain star]

Also it’s missing something

[glacial oasis]

EW could snatch their souls

[plain star]

TREE BUTTON

[rough tree]

and a grenade button

[inland kite]

"Drive safari jeep to hunt dinasour" and "empower the arsenal"

[shy onyx]

Superb bullet physics

[glacial oasis]

jesus christ of nazareth

[shy onyx]

Empower the arsenal??

[glacial oasis]

put the fries in the bag bro

game development aint for yall

[inland kite]

Thats what I'm wondering 😅

[shy onyx]

How do I empower it 😂

[limpid dock]

Super Saiyan Gun

[inland kite]

Hell if I know 😂

[shy onyx]

For real 😅

Oh I also love this one

Elegators

My favorite animal

[rough tree]

"we fire the whole bullet! That's 65% more bullet per bullet!"

[rough tree]

ELEGATORS LMFAOOOO

[shy onyx]

Exactly

[mighty dove]

Laying on the American flag while hunting. Very 'merica

[lean mist]

Why is joker a patriot hunter

[shy onyx]

He's also aiming way far off

[glacial oasis]

elegator

[inland kite]

To complete the lev ofc

[shy onyx]

They're elephant/alligator hybrids I'm sure

[glacial oasis]

i could design that

and make it actually look good

[shy onyx]

You should

[glacial oasis]

not now

[shy onyx]

Make an elegator 😅

[glacial oasis]

ive been on a cotw grind

😋

[shy onyx]

Whatchu grinding?

[glacial oasis]

what ever i can find

i got my mindset on the grindset

[shy onyx]

Ah I see

[inland kite]

I'm sorry, shoot the WHAT??? 😂

[shy onyx]

I'm on Rancho right now

[glacial oasis]

ight bro

[shy onyx]

As a dinosaur nerd, this deeply upsets me...

And just in general

[plain star]

Joker on American flag shooting elegators

[warm imp]

It looks like hybrid from jurassic world mobile game

[shy onyx]

No, elegators

[rough tree]

SAME

[plain star]

Oh right

Elegators

Yk

Those things of course

[glacial oasis]

Dont cry little path of titans player, we got plenty of "teasers" for the updated questing system to feed you for a life time. Jiggy! Restock the roster, boy's hungry

[inland kite]

Hunt THE wild 😂

[shy onyx]

Yep, all of it

[glacial oasis]

why do they focus so much on giraffes

[plain star]

Levitating Cheetahs, my favorite

[plain star]

That are also HUGE

[rough tree]

Don't forget the part where they do an entire showcase of whatever mid to slop community mods come out (and occasionally something actually cool)

[glacial oasis]

why i dont play path of titans

dinosaur games either have terrible devs or terrible roadmaps

[shy onyx]

I like PoT...

[glacial oasis]

a bunch of autistic people need to come together to make a proper one

[rough tree]

I deadass got removed from a friend group for criticizing PoT and some modding teams lol

i was "too toxic"

[glacial oasis]

LOL

LOL

LOL

[shy onyx]

Huh????

[shy onyx]

I volunteer ✋️

[glacial oasis]

what ever happened to beasts of bermuda

[glacial oasis]

same

[inland kite]

This was a legit screenshot for a game set in the ice age that I searched up😂

[shy onyx]

No, just no

[rough tree]

Honestly no clue, last I heard of them they "added" Carcharodontosaurus and were asking for donations to their paypal lol

[glacial oasis]

LMFAO

[plain star]

This actually made me laugh out loud

What the hell

[glacial oasis]

remember the isle

dondi

"one dinosaur every month"

[rough tree]

:)

[glacial oasis]

maple said they cant even manage a bug fix a month lmao

[rough tree]

I'm waiting for dondi to either kill The Isle like he did with the original Primal Carnage or "rebuild" the game again lmfao

[glacial oasis]

the mf made primal carnage?

[rough tree]

He was involved with its development

[glacial oasis]

jeeeeeeeeeeeesus

[rough tree]

And then did something that completely broke it and was let go bc of it

[glacial oasis]

LOL

[jovial spade]

"Primal Carnage", I feel like an unc at 15

[glacial oasis]

please dawg

[rough tree]

I've been keeping up with Saurian (checking their announcements channel every blue moon when they release a devlog saying that they're still working for free) bc I want a singleplayer Formation-specific roster instead of "every dinosaur ever in funny multiplayer"

[jovial spade]

I miss Primal Carnage. I watched TheGamingBeaver play it

[reef rover]

Did they tell us when the next trailer will drop? Or when we will know what the great one is?

[jovial spade]

And why did they restart the Isle?

[shy onyx]

Trailer dropped yesterday, no G1 news

[jovial spade]

Well....

[rough tree]

something about Legacy and "no way to salvage it"

[reef rover]

Okay, I seen that one. Looking forward to g1 news

[glacial oasis]

doesnt evrima have procedural growth

[jovial spade]

ts

[shy onyx]

Oh sorry misread your question 😅

[jovial spade]

Ts needs to be pinned

[glacial oasis]

ts pmo

[reef rover]

All good 🙂

[shy onyx]

This is very likely just an article making things up, there is no confirmation on what the next G1 is

[jovial spade]

Tahr was revealed in a similar way

[shy onyx]

Tahr was revealed as the G1 by EW in the map description, EW hasn't confirmed anything for this one yet

Don't fully believe anything unless it comes from them

[jovial spade]

Before that, I'm pretty sure there was a leaked email or something

[shy onyx]

There wasn't

If there was it was again likely fake

[mighty dove]

If it is mule deer, think about the racks we could get

[rough tree]

I've always treated leaks with skepticism bc you'd be surprised by how often "leaks" turn out to be completely fake

[jovial spade]

But it turned out true

[mighty dove]

Still best to be skeptical and not get our hopes up

[shy onyx]

The G1 tahr was revealed when we got the release date for Sundarpatan, unless the email was written before that it was fake

[rough tree]

:>

[glacial oasis]

why would the devs work via email

[shy onyx]

Exactly

[glacial oasis]

that doesnt seem very secure

[rough tree]

well you see they wanted to tell me, a random girl who just plays the game, about the secret stuff that hasn't been released yet!!!!

[glacial oasis]

oh right of course

[agile cradle]

so obvious duh

[glacial oasis]

how did i not think of that

[plain star]

Just so you can complete the lev 😭

[rough tree]

my dad works at EW he said we're getting gazelles

[agile cradle]

i want to hunt blizzarf panthers prey

[shy onyx]

Loser, all animals escaped

[plain star]

Fr, would make a top tier g1

[inland kite]

HUNT BIRDS WITH SNIPER GUN

[inland kite]

Proof?

[shy onyx]

Sniper gun?? 😭

[thin hatch]

Why not moose with rocket launchers?

[agile cradle]

they're entitled to their own class imo, blizzarf panthers prey deserve more than g1

[jovial spade]

My dad is Jaxy, he said we're getting Skibidi toilets

[shy onyx]

You're banned

[agile cradle]

we still havent got a brainrot filter???

cheers sons crying now

[inland kite]

Think it was maddog who had the image, but it just had those words with the image of someone hunting birds with a MK14 EBR I think 😂

[shy onyx]

Get one immediately

[jovial spade]

NOoo

N0Oo

[glacial oasis]

adieu

[inland kite]

Yeah here it is 😂

[shy onyx]

😭

I swear these games are made by literal children

[plain star]

https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1379811969988562944

[inland kite]

You've got to be joking 😂

[shy onyx]

Why are there seagulls in the swamp????

[inland kite]

It's better to not ask questions and more or less observe 😂

[shy onyx]

Blizzarf panthers are real

[glacial oasis]

ugliest god damn tiger model ive seen in my life

[plain star]

Also,

https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1378192565161037896

[inland kite]

This your source? 😂

[shy onyx]

No...

Yeah

[inland kite]

😂

[shy onyx]

I love stalking and holding

With my bent tranq rifle

[glacial oasis]

worst part is you can understand what they're trying to say

[inland kite]

"Hunt the following animals to pass this level"

[plain star]

What’s funny is that this is my first feedback post

lmfao

[shy onyx]

The trailer for this was JWE footage with photoshop hands moving joysticks 😭

[shy onyx]

Complete the lev

[agile cradle]

rip john lennon you would've loved hunting blizzarf panthers prey to complete the lev

[inland kite]

Dudes missing out 😔

[inland kite]

Seems credible

[agile cradle]

still a better bear model than cotw

[twilit mesa]

Any of u guys play on ps5 and can help me set up red deer grind

[shy onyx]

I'm on pc sorry partner

[agile cradle]

https://discordapp.com/channels/393040947006406657/491938753917485056

[silver fog]

Relevant

[viral quarry]

How is everyone this fine morning

[shy onyx]

Exhausted and happy, you?

[viral quarry]

Exhausted and being dragged to work already 😂

[ivory mountain]

Bored, whats going on in here

Was there a poll here awhile back where Mule deer won for "next G1" or something of the type? I don't recall

[viral quarry]

But got to do something really cool last night, took my girl, my cousin, and her boyfriend out for dinner, then went browsing my favorite gun store. Ended the night off at a Japanese garden

[shy onyx]

Man that sucks 😅

[shy onyx]

No they won a poll for new antler variations

[ivory mountain]

That's what I thought. Im being told otherwise

[shy onyx]

Sounds awesome

[shy onyx]

Yeah a lot of folks still think it was a G1 poll

[viral quarry]

You know, a g1 muley just makes so much sense

Big horn g1 could also be really cool 👀 imagine a larger built bighorn with the biggest horns

[shy onyx]

Either would be really cool

[ivory mountain]

Personally hoping for wolves

[viral quarry]

But! We are gonna have so many potential g1s on this new reserve with moose, whitetail, pheasant, and blackbear

[ivory mountain]

As long as it's a relaxing grind I'll be happy, last 3 have been tough ones

[glacial oasis]

yo like

do you need to be in a map for 15-30 minutes for things to respawn

[shy onyx]

I don't grind so whatever it is won't affect me 😅

[glacial oasis]

cause i dont think some of my stuff is respawning

[shy onyx]

No one actually knows what the respawn time is

Sometimes it's instant, sometimes it takes a day

[glacial oasis]

hm ok

[viral quarry]

Did emerald coast get a g1? 🤔 I'm trying to remember what all of them are

[glacial oasis]

ty

[shy onyx]

Red fox

Fallow

[glacial oasis]

red fox, red deer and fallow

[shy onyx]

Red deer

[shy onyx]

No problem

[viral quarry]

Kinda love the red fox g1

[marble quartz]

Any one else got a lot ringing when you go to the trophy log

[ivory vapor]

I forgot Red Deer were on EC

[ivory mountain]

Love it, the grind is brutal but most of the furs make it worth it

[viral quarry]

What gun you usually take on a red fox grind?

[ivory mountain]

Personally, I find the bright pink fox revolting

[ivory mountain]

.300 and .22-250 for trophies

[shy onyx]

I've seen a lot of folks use the .300

[ivory vapor]

Ew

[marble quartz]

I got a question for you guys what are most exciting to hunt for

[glacial oasis]

any sheep/goat

[ivory mountain]

I personally like upland birds

[shy onyx]

Mountain goats and Manitoban elk

[marble quartz]

Breaver

[ivory vapor]

Most people would say A X I S

[brisk mauve]

Birds

And new caribou model

And elk

Beaver

[marble quartz]

@brisk mauve only one answer please

[ivory mountain]

Bruh

[glacial oasis]

LOL

[shadow panther]

Definetly the wolves!

[shy onyx]

Hard to just choose one partner

[glacial oasis]

i like hunting goats

and mountain goats

and sheep

and wolves

and bovines

[ivory mountain]

Don't forget birds

Ducks

[viral quarry]

Mostly the elk and caribou, love the bison and birds, but I need revenge on the beavers

[ivory mountain]

Geese

[shadow panther]

And tigers

[shy onyx]

I like hunting anything and everything

[shadow panther]

And leopards

And deer

[glacial oasis]

oh honestly true

[shadow panther]

And boar

[ivory mountain]

And bad people

[glacial oasis]

i like the big felids other than lions

[shadow panther]

And pizza

And beaver

And rocks

[marble quartz]

@shadow panther there is no boar on the new map

[shy onyx]

Sad excuses for lions

[shadow panther]

And trees

And moons

[viral quarry]

Think I may start a bit of a grind tonight, what's considered the easiest g1 to grind

[shadow panther]

And books

And snow

[glacial oasis]

no goats on there either

mountain goats arent goats

[shadow panther]

And snow leopards

[viral quarry]

😢 this hurts me so deeply

[ivory mountain]

Easiest, probably fallow off of Te

[marble quartz]

@glacial oasis yes there are ew confirm it

[glacial oasis]

.

[shy onyx]

Strangely they are more closely related to antelope

[glacial oasis]

mountain goats are on askiy, yes

but mountain goats arent goats

[glacial oasis]

and pronghorn antelope are closer to giraffes than antelope

😋

[shy onyx]

Yep, I hate taxonomy 😂

[marble quartz]

Why are they call goat then they are goat

[glacial oasis]

because they look like goats

scientists dont care

there is a frog called mountain chicken

[viral quarry]

I found out mountain goats aren't goats and it felt wrong, deep inside of me and I still can't get over it, literally started questioning my entire existence over it not being a goat

[marble quartz]

Why did you say that they are not goat then

[shy onyx]

Same reason that bison are called buffalo, they look similar, but bison ain't buffalo

[glacial oasis]

BECAUSE THEY ARENT GOATS

THEY JUST LOOK LIKE GOATS

[shy onyx]

She did

[marble quartz]

OMG they are goat they look like goats

[glacial oasis]

no they arent

taxonomically, genetically, they arent

[viral quarry]

Scientists determined it's not a goat

[glacial oasis]

springbok look like gazelles, but they arent gazelles

[marble quartz]

Some please look it up

[glacial oasis]

jesus christ

a woman cant be right i guess

[viral quarry]

They took the mountain goat on a reality tv show and determined a goat was not the father

[warm imp]

True goats are in genus Capra

[shy onyx]

I work at a zoo and she and I know what we're talking about

[warm imp]

and mountain goat aint that

[glacial oasis]

@marble quartz

same reason one is a baboon and one isnt, they just arent the same

[marble quartz]

Ok dam my bad

[glacial oasis]

the second one is a gelada, and while often called gelada baboons, they arent baboons

true baboons are in the genus papio

same way true goats are in the genus capra

[marble quartz]

Is a bison a buffalo those

[glacial oasis]

bison and buffalo arent the same

bison are called buffalo but they arent buffalo

[shy onyx]

No they are different

[agile cradle]

couldnt be any more different lmao

[marble quartz]

Ok I thought they were because they are both aggressive

[glacial oasis]

.

bless your soul

god damn

[shy onyx]

That, what, huh

[tough cedar]

Cow 👍

[viral quarry]

A great example and slightly obvious example is the koala which people often call a bear despite it being a marsupial

[shy onyx]

Gross

[glacial oasis]

^^

[shy onyx]

Who tf thinks koalas are bears??

[agile cradle]

buffalo are docile what

[glacial oasis]

BUFFALO?

CAPE BUFFALO?

[viral quarry]

It's because they look like a teddy bear, so people say koala bear

[marble quartz]

Why do people think raccoons are Bear

[glacial oasis]

theres a reason they are called widow makers my friend

[shy onyx]

Yeah, the black death, the widowmaker, very docile

[agile cradle]

typically more docile*

[shy onyx]

No one thinks that

[glacial oasis]

a buffalo is more likely to attack you than a lion

[viral quarry]

Raccoons are the American equivalent of a monkey

[shy onyx]

Still no

[marble quartz]

Still there face do look like a Bear

[shy onyx]

I'd rather encounter a bear than a buffalo

[glacial oasis]

^^^^

buffalo are devils dude

[shy onyx]

Ain't no way...

[warm imp]

Genuine question, why are only plains bison called buffalo ? I am pretty sure nobody ever called european bison a buffalo and they are the same genus

[glacial oasis]

i actually have no idea lmao

[marble quartz]

OMG are they making the animal up and they are not the same thing

[agile cradle]

i mean in the wild no i wouldnt want to meet one, water buffalo are incredibly docile when domesticated though

[glacial oasis]

yeah

WATER buffalo

[shy onyx]

?

[marble quartz]

Like a raccoon dog

[viral quarry]

Yeah ...... Let me face a pack of wolves, a mountain lion, or even get charged by an elk, but my list of do not mess around has to be hippos, bison, buffalo, and moose

[glacial oasis]

they're called raccoon dogs cause they are dogs that look like raccoons

[shy onyx]

A lot of animals are named off of appearance, this being one of them

[agile cradle]

if it bothers you just call em tanukis

[glacial oasis]

absolutely

[warm imp]

racoon dog is pretty self explanatory name

[shy onyx]

Yeah the prey mindset is more dangerous than the predator mindset

[marble quartz]

So we why are there not like a dog then a faking Bear

[glacial oasis]

"everything wants to kill me so i need to kill everything"

[agile cradle]

big pandas also are not true pandas

[shy onyx]

Exactly

[warm imp]

yeah red pandas were discovered first iirc

[agile cradle]

just look like an oversized black and white red panda, hence panda bears

[shy onyx]

We discussed this yesterday 😅

[glacial oasis]

what are you talking about

[agile cradle]

was my ass present i dont remember

[shy onyx]

I doubt it but I cleared it up because no one understood that

[opal vortex]

is it already confirmed that the new g1 will be the mule deer?

[marble quartz]

So I can't make decisions about what what animal look like in real life and in the game

[shy onyx]

No, no confirmation yet

[glacial oasis]

no cause you arent a scientist 💀

most species are already named too

[agile cradle]

when you discover a new species sure

or subspecies

[glacial oasis]

like really the only undiscovered animals out there are translucent fish miles underwater, bugs or birds

[marble quartz]

What the hell is the tahr supposed to be

[glacial oasis]

tahrs are goats

[agile cradle]

full circle moment

[viral quarry]

I kinda want another tanuki hunting reserve

[hollow tundra]

Like how Salmon, Char and Trout are all different

[marble quartz]

What do you mean it doesn't even look like a goat

[glacial oasis]

yes tf it does

it looks more like a goat than mountain goats

[agile cradle]

japan

[viral quarry]

A tanuki g1 in the future would be kinda cool

[marble quartz]

Hey chill out im sorry

[agile cradle]

mountain goats look like someone took an assortment of substances and tried to draw it from memory while blindfolded on one eye

[drifting zodiac]

That's why there's a classification system, with Latin names, cause every languages have different names for same species and everyone is confused.

[glacial oasis]

one is a goat one isnt

[warm imp]

I bet he tried to draw a fox from memory and drew tibetan fox too

[glacial oasis]

and the one that is a goat looks more like a goat than the one that isnt

[agile cradle]

that was just wes anderson

[marble quartz]

My bad

[agile cradle]

literally the most goatiest looking goat ive seen

[viral quarry]

So are mountain goats gonna get a remodel? Just curious

[glacial oasis]

blue sheep are also not sheep or goats

😋

they're somewhere in the middle

[shy onyx]

Yep they did

[agile cradle]

shoats

[glacial oasis]

yea

[marble quartz]

What the hell are they then

[agile cradle]

or geep

[viral quarry]

Wait, really?! Anyone have a picture?

[agile cradle]

they're shoats

[drifting zodiac]

Mountain goats are still in the same subfamily than goats and sheeps, so that's very close

[glacial oasis]

but not true goats

therefor not goats or sheep

😋

[drifting zodiac]

Yep!

[glacial oasis]

i looked at the blue sheep genus name

Psuedois

i think that means Psuedo-sheep

not a true sheep

[shy onyx]

Well technically tahr ain't true goats either

[glacial oasis]

yeah cause they arent in the capra genus

but they're still goats

[marble quartz]

Why do they have sheep in there name then sorry for asking

[shy onyx]

Hemitragus right?

[glacial oasis]

yeah

[warm imp]

because they look very similar, most animals are named after something else they resemble

[glacial oasis]

^^

[shy onyx]

Half goat yeah

[viral quarry]

(best Steve Irwin impression) "Look at those beauties, stunning white fur and horns, able to climb up surfaces nearly at a perfect 45 degree angle from the ground. I'm gonna poke it"

[glacial oasis]

same reason mountain goats are called goats

they arent goats they just look like goats

blue sheep arent sheep but they just look like sheep

[agile cradle]

people think of hyenas as dogs but are more closely related to cats

[marble quartz]

Is banteng cows

[glacial oasis]

yeah

[drifting zodiac]

9 wild species in Capra genus

[glacial oasis]

cows, banteng, gaurs, buffalo and bison are all bovines, commonly called cows