🦡︴cotw-scotland

[karmic token]

Please!

It would be nice to know the full set list. I know they said they would announce the release date next week.

Full species list!

[fast hawk]

I’m hoping the great one is at least an antler species

[karmic token]

I really hope it's the mule deer! It wouldn't make sense to do a new species that's only on 1 map.

[mighty dove]

Same

[lusty berry]

When will it come out?

[shy onyx]

I mean they did that with tahr

[karmic token]

They will announce that next week Ryan

[lusty berry]

Thanks

[fast hawk]

Yeah

[mighty dove]

I want it to be elk

[karmic token]

They did, but I don't think they would make the same mistake twice.

[shy onyx]

Same, I don't grind but a G1 Manitoban elk might change that

[karmic token]

I just got my first GO red deer on Sunday

[fast hawk]

I’m excited to see what rare the beavers will have

[tidal light]

Most likely leucistic albino and mela

[fast hawk]

Yeah

[tidal light]

But might have something special

Excited to see

[eternal belfry]

It won’t be anything exciting

Probably just repeat species. They would have shown off the new stuff in the trailer

[eternal belfry]

Looks to be a very repetitive map + beavers and a reskinned elk

[delicate patio]

Maybe have one more new animal that’s not a bird

[eternal belfry]

Yeah

[delicate patio]

Hoping for wolverines

[karmic token]

There are 7 species still not known. Until they release those species, we can't say that it's repetitive. You can't expect every species to be new.

[delicate patio]

That would be sick

[eternal belfry]

I don’t expect every species to be new, but I do expect there to be more than two for a whole new map…

[mighty dove]

Just wait to see the full list

[karmic token]

Again, wait till the full list is released.

[shy onyx]

Already is more than two, wood bison, snow geese, wood duck, dusky grouse, and Manitoban elk

[delicate patio]

Especially when we already have most of the animals that live in Alberta in the game already

[karmic token]

Then you can complain if they are all repeats!

[eternal belfry]

Bar beavers, these are literally reskins

Wolverines would be Awsome

[shy onyx]

Not really

[eternal belfry]

They are?

[delicate patio]

Besides wolverines what else should they add

Not too much more

[shy onyx]

I'm hoping for grizzly and cairbou

[eternal belfry]

If they chose the arctic we could have had beavers and polar bears wolverines etc

[karmic token]

Keep in mind they are keeping it true to what you can really hunt there

[mighty dove]

We might get the Arctic eventually

🤷‍♀️

[delicate patio]

Well it isn’t the arctic right now

[eternal belfry]

Yes, but again they could have expanded the varity by choosing a more northern part of Canada

[shy onyx]

The arctic would have less variety actually due to the harsh climate, not as many animals can live there

[mighty dove]

Your opinion might change once the rest of the animal list is revealed. I feel like you are disappointed in the list as it is right now

[eternal belfry]

Not remotely true. There’s a massive amount of animals there?

[eternal belfry]

I’m keeping my mind open for sure

[shy onyx]

Polar bear, musk ox, dall sheep, wolves, as far as big game that's all there is

[eternal belfry]

Why are you acting like this? Again that’s blatantly untrue?

[delicate patio]

Wolverines and badgers would be peak for this map

[shy onyx]

I'm not acting like anything? I'm just discussing a topic, name some more big game up in the arctic because I don't know anymore than what I named other than caribou

[mighty dove]

https://x.com/thehuntercotw/status/1928089092710887577?s=46&t=4_kppLCwLQrmweDlvZ0Jhg

They posted

[verbal peak]

Just some deer ig

[last schooner]

[eternal belfry]

Then why why would you say that’s all there is, if you then admit that all that you know?

For reference, this is just one of the many Canadian articles suggestions new species

NEW Species;
• Northern Pintail (Class 1)
• American Wigeon (Class 1)
• Northern Shoveler (Class 1)
• Spruce Grouse (Class 1)
• Ruffed Grouse (Class 1)
• Snow Goose (Class 1)
• Ross's Goose (Class 1)
• Snowshoe Hare (Class 1)
• Arctic Fox (Class 2)
• Stone Sheep (Class 4)
• Dall Sheep? (Class 4)
• Polar Bear (Class 8 or 9)
• Musk Ox (Class 9)
• Walrus? (Class 9)
• Wood Bison (Class 9)

[quaint lintel]

Every day this time we gonna get some either small or big

[karmic token]

Musk ox are not in Alberta

[spark magnet]

theres like the smallest amount of them at the very top

[karmic token]

Not where this reserve is located

[spark magnet]

thats not what I was

answering

[shy onyx]

Because I was talking about the diversity of big game, these are mostly small game

[eternal belfry]

This is me saying they should have done a more northern Canadian reserve so that we can get more species. Keep up

[verbal peak]

Stop being so punchy and volatile

[lone forge]

What 😂

[last schooner]

it's probabaly teasing something about snow landing on animals furs just based on context clues which we already seemed to catch onto in the first proper reveal trailer

[plucky forge]

no polar bear or walrus , its confirmed

[karmic token]

True, but without a new, larger lodge, it wouldn't make sense to add larger game.

[shy onyx]

I'm sure he knows, we are discussing ideas for a more arctic map

[plucky forge]

ops sorry

[shy onyx]

You're good

[eternal belfry]

All of those species would fit in the current lodges?

It’s a polar bear not a giraffe

[spark magnet]

LOL

[wary juniper]

chat what deer do we think this is?

[eternal belfry]

I do like the scenery though

They always smash the ball out of the park when it comes to the map itself

[spark magnet]

I was thinking it was elk at first but im leaning more into mule deer

[shy onyx]

I think they mean that there are so many big game species in the game already that you would have to have more than one lodge to display all of them

[shy onyx]

Mule deer

[wary juniper]

i’m hoping for black tail but that could just be wishful thinking

[lament swan]

Hipo

[wary juniper]

real

[eternal belfry]

I think sasika has more spaces than current species, could be wrong

[stray basalt]

You missed like 4 types of seal walrus, grizzly bears, like 3 types of caribou, and dall sheep

Massive amount of animals

[shy onyx]

Maybe, I don't use Saseka so I dunno

[spark magnet]

another blacktail map would be lovely but if they are already giving us mule deer (subspecies of blacktail) I dont think they would put blacktail with mulies sadly

[eternal belfry]

Trust me there’s a ton of space!

[lone forge]

#1375853270890840245 this is just the Canadian archipelago alone

[lone forge]

Looked like mule deer in trailer

[wary juniper]

i mean they almost did it with SRP

[spark magnet]

Thats true

[shy onyx]

I know, but that's not any more diverse than Alberta, just different

[eternal belfry]

I mean 👀

[stray basalt]

Yes… it is more diverse

[red violet]

Why is everyone so snippy at each other. Take a breather, drink a coffee and then come back.

[shy onyx]

How though? I'm talking about amount of species, not new and unique species

[shy onyx]

I dunno

[stray basalt]

Good thing we already have a subspecies of blacktail deer that actually live there on the map.

[eternal belfry]

A lot of species on this map are repeats, we would get way more new ones with what Ayolim says

[spark magnet]

Actually thank you for reminding me I need my morning coffee be back in 5 minutes 😂

[red violet]

mine is brewing right now

[shy onyx]

Yeah I know that the arctic would bring a lot of cool new species, I am hoping down the road we get an arctic map, but it isn't more diverse up there

[stray basalt]

If you put it all together it’s like really close to 19, hell if you include small game it could easily be 30 species long!

[shy onyx]

That's all I'm sayin

[shy onyx]

True, I doubt they would add thirty species to a reserve though, also Askiy Ridge has 19 species

[next isle]

Do we think maybe they hinting at Mule deer G1 by showing us a clip with Deer again

[stray basalt]

It’s a hypothetical to show that an Arctic map has more variety than you’ve been lead to believe

[spark magnet]

alright coffee brewing

[shy onyx]

Could be, who knows

[gentle shale]

g1 grizzly ?

but most likey will be caribou or mule

[shy onyx]

I know that an Arctic map would have a ton of variety, I've been hoping for an Arctic map for years, but Alberta has just as much diversity

[mighty dove]

My prediction for the rest of the animal list
• Grizzly Bear
• Pronghorn
• Wolverine
• Boreal Woodland Caribou or Barren Ground Carribou
• Snowshoe Hare
• Cougar

I don't even know if some of those are allowed to be hunted so don't quote me on anything

[stray basalt]

I’m kinda tired of pronghorn atm

[mighty dove]

I did it for funsies

[stray basalt]

I’ve got the class 3 fatigue

[shy onyx]

That doesn't matter anymore since they added tigers and snow leopards

[red violet]

coyotes gonna be on there is my guess

[mighty dove]

I think there will be one animal we are all tired of on the list to be revealed

[mighty dove]

I was thinking that or cougar I just went with cougar

[red violet]

why not both :D

[stray basalt]

Most of that looks right, apparently they opened up grizzly bear hunting recently.

[mighty dove]

Possibly!

[agile cradle]

since theres wolves they should do some sort of story with the Waheela

[mighty dove]

That is true

I just took some wild guesses

[red violet]

• a rework of said species

[mighty dove]

I tried to be inclusive

I was second guessing the squirrel thing. I doubt we get them, but there are a lot of squirrel species in Alberta and it would open up opportunities for a possible back fill on other maps which would be cool

[red violet]

I sill think yotes should be a class 3 animal

[fast hawk]

They posted a video on Twitter. It looks like just a deer species walking through the snow though. I’m pretty confident it’s just mule deer

[lusty orbit]

Pretty sure they would have announced squirrels like beavers considering how many people want them added.

[mighty dove]

Unless they are saving it

[weak smelt]

They should

[crimson dawn]

Or maybe they could be waiting to announce it

[blissful bough]

new short on youtube btw

[lusty orbit]

Maybe, but i doubt it

[eternal belfry]

This is my thinking, the new species would have been mentioned or shown in the trailer and info article already to generate hype

[lethal cairn]

I would add a wolverine

[shy onyx]

They've hid new species before right up to the release trailer

[lusty orbit]

God i hope we at least get wolverines

[eternal belfry]

True

But again I’m not too hopeful, will just have to see

[mighty dove]

Wolverine could definitely take the place of Ground Hog or the Marmot

Might change it

[lusty orbit]

We are getting a rabbit, come to terms with it 😂

[mighty dove]

Honestly there are so many animals it could be though. I want them all

[crimson dawn]

Same

[shy onyx]

I wouldn't mind, I like hunting rabbits and hares

[lethal cairn]

And since they are pretty rare there might be only few on the map

[mighty dove]

Aww, I messed up my list cause I edited it

I fixed it

[crimson dawn]

Think they would add timber wolves?

[lethal cairn]

No I dont think so

[shy onyx]

Timber wolves are gray wolves, same species

[red violet]

we got gray wolves, don't think they add two wolves

[crimson dawn]

Oh didn't know that

[shy onyx]

Yeah it's just different names

[lusty orbit]

What about two elk species on the map?

[mighty dove]

I just realized there are no rabbit species revealed and I don't have one on my list

Might change squirrel out

[lethal cairn]

Add Snowshoe hare

[shy onyx]

That would be wierd since roosevelt elk and rocky mountain elk don't inhabit the same range

[mighty dove]

Got it

That is probably what it will be

[red violet]

sandhill cranes would be cool too

[mighty dove]

Aight I am done for real

[shy onyx]

Indeed they would

[mighty dove]

I ain't touching it no more

[verbal peak]

I reckon they’ll put another small predator in like a coyote, lynx or fox

[lusty orbit]

What about the rockies and the manitoban elk?

[lethal cairn]

Wolverine is considered small predator

[verbal peak]

That’s why I said ‘another’

[shy onyx]

Manitoban elk are a subspecies (barely) of rocky mountain elk so it wouldn't really make sense to put both as seperate species

[mighty dove]

Cougar can be replaced by coyote probably but I am keeping it

[lethal cairn]

It could be canadian lynx

[lusty orbit]

Interesting, tbf i didn't know manitoban elk were a thing until last week

[shy onyx]

Yeah fair, they really aren't that different from standard rocky mountain elk, they just inhabit a different region

[rancid pecan]

Mule or white

[gentle shale]

mountain lion could use a remodel , id pay good money for a full remodel update

[lusty orbit]

What do you think the chances are for all elks to get a model update?

[naive abyss]

Was that mountain lion?

[gentle shale]

of all animals

[shy onyx]

Looks like mule deer, too dark to be whitetail to me

[lethal cairn]

0%

[gentle shale]

that should be an intermediary update like relase a new remodel every month till the next map

[shy onyx]

With the absolute beauty of the Manitoban elk, I'd say we may get lucky

[lethal cairn]

In this update 0% cause they only redo some species that will be on a new map, in a future maybe

[lusty orbit]

I mean, they are all elk, so they could more or less share the new model, with some differences

[red violet]

if they don't change the other elk, I gonna be pissed

I mean...come on

[lethal cairn]

Whenever a new map was released, some animals that would be there were remodeled, but never animals in other maps

[glacial oasis]

yknow

a cougar remodel would be nice

[lusty orbit]

I legit might replace all my elks in the lodge with the manitoban elk if they don't update them

[glacial oasis]

Its sad that alberta doesnt have dall sheep

They wouldve been awesome

[lusty orbit]

Cougar don't look bad, there are others that need it more

[lethal cairn]

I think the worst looking animal now is jackal

[tight raven]

Those damn teeths on rosie💔

[gentle shale]

i know its not alberta but a backfill of roe on salwiezen would make my day

[mighty dove]

#redoroe

[lethal cairn]

Roe deer is class 3, Salzwiesen is only for 1-2

[lusty orbit]

What i can't come to terms with is this is like the 15th map and still no dall sheep

[gentle shale]

its perfect roe habitat just a small deer on the map would elevate it

or muntjac

[lethal cairn]

17th map

Muntjac are class 2 but doesnt live in germany

[shy onyx]

Just kill an albino bighorn 😂

(Joke by the way)

[lusty orbit]

I literally have a big albino mouflon in place of a dall sheep in my NA lodge 😂

[shy onyx]

That works too lol

[glacial oasis]

Cougars look weird

All the old felids do

They dont have felid eyes

[lethal cairn]

Jackal are the worst

[glacial oasis]

Yep

All the old canids and felids look awful

Coyotes, iberian wolves, jackals, cougars, lions, lynx

[tight raven]

Animal ain't even out yet and vro already have it as pfp

Based tho

[glacial oasis]

Hoping they'll all get the tiger, snow leopard and gray wolf treatment we saw recently

They nailed the snow leopards and tigers

[shy onyx]

Indeed, as an elk hunter I couldn't resist

[glacial oasis]

And now they nailed the gray wolves

[red violet]

they are sooo pretty

[lethal cairn]

They look like a new wolf species really

[shy onyx]

EW has done an amazing job with their new models and remodels

[red violet]

I mean, I know how hard 3D modelling is, so I'm not shitting on the artist..but...sometimes I still wonder why some animals look so...really bad

[minor shadow]

I have a Feeling Cougars will be on this map and with get a MASSIVE Remodel and Rework

[eternal belfry]

The lions look horrific!

[shy onyx]

Yeah it's really hard to translate a living creature into a 3d animated model without it looking weird

[dusky wolf]

We need dall sheep on Yukon aswell

[marble quartz]

@shy onyx can you send me a name of the animal that are c conform

[dusky wolf]

Mouflon and ibex need reworks aswell along with chamois I find

They just don’t look convincing compared to the newer goat and sheep species we got

And mountain goats

[red violet]

the ibex are all horrid as well. Look how good the ibex looks in classic. Same with reindeer...

[shy onyx]

Moose, whitetail, mule deer, beaver, bear, wood duck, snow goose, wood bison, Manitoban elk, bighorn, and dusky grouse

[red violet]

you can always check pinned messages for animal lists btw

[lone forge]

Askiy Ridge - Alberta Hunting Preserve 🇨🇦
Species List so far (19 in total / ⭐ - NEW)

1. ⭐ Wood Bison
2. ⭐ Manitoban Elk
3. ⭐ North American Beaver
4. ⭐ Snow Goose
5. ⭐ Dusky Grouse
6. ⭐ Wood Duck
7. Bighorn Sheep [Remodeled]
8. Gray Wolf [Remodeled]
9. Mule Deer [Remodeled]
10. Moose ()
11. Black Bear ()
12. Whitetail Deer ()
13. (To be revealed)
14. (To be revealed)
15. (To be revealed)
16. (To be revealed)
17. (To be revealed)
18. (To be revealed)
19. (To be revealed)

[tidal light]

Oh

Very good

[lean mist]

Im kinda losing hope ngl

[dusky wolf]

I wonder what the new great one will be

I doubt beavers

But I’m thinking either bison, elk, mule deer or wolf

[tidal light]

I hope it's beavers tbh

Dealt it though

[dusky wolf]

So far 6 new species and 6 returners

[tidal light]

6 Returners are good species though

3 have great ones other 3 getting remodeled

[meager crater]

Should be Mule deer

[dusky wolf]

It’s nice to finally have a map that isn’t Medved or Yukon with wolves on it

[tidal light]

Yeah most likely mule deer

[dusky wolf]

People have been asking for great one elk so it’s possible we could see a GO elk

[tidal light]

Yeah

[dusky wolf]

But idk if it would just be for the Manitoban elk

[tidal light]

Yea

Mule deer most likely

[meager crater]

If they did elk I’d hope it was for all elk or at least Manitoban and Rosie since they are more similar to each other than Rocky

[tidal light]

Yeah

[shy onyx]

Manitoban elk are a subspecies of Rocky Mountain elk

[dusky wolf]

Cus if either mule deer or Manitoban elk get a GO, Rocky/roosevelt elk would need a GO

Same would apply to mule deer since blacktails and mule deer are the same

[tidal light]

I did not know that

[dusky wolf]

But atm they have completely different models

[tidal light]

Manitoban and Roosevelt look exactly a like

[shy onyx]

Blacktail and mule deer are not the same

[shy onyx]

I didn't either till last week

[stray basalt]

Hopefully snow goose

[vivid cosmos]

Dang it I thought it was viv and got all exited, then mad and then I noticed it's Janny
That's a pretty cool list btw

[tidal light]

Hopefully not

Hate hunting birbs

[oblique plinth]

i think a GO bighorn could be cool

[lean mist]

True

[shy onyx]

Agreed

[lean mist]

Imagine an ungrindable GO

[stray basalt]

Not much they could really do fur wise without it looking ridiculous like tahr

[oblique plinth]

but i think mulie is the most likely GO. which would also be cool, the rack potential is amazing

[dusky wolf]

I remember when people were complaining about the pheasant flushing when Sal got released and the birds flushed instantly instead of taking a while, meanwhile I hardly saw a different

[oblique plinth]

i kinda like the great ones that look more 'out there'. makes them more exciting to me

[vivid cosmos]

Bighorn GO is my dream now that they are remodeled

[dusky wolf]

I prefer the more grounded furs for the great ones like the black bear

[stray basalt]

There’s a difference between “out there” and completely and utterly ridiculous.

[dusky wolf]

The scarred fur type is my favorite for the tahr honestly

[whole wren]

I don’t like the one they covered in flowers, looks too fantasy

[shy onyx]

Well it's a G1, they are supposed to be ridiculous and unnatural

[lone forge]

It's the current list of what we know, it's pinned and made by @quaint lintel

[oblique plinth]

i like all of them. they look like wizards

[lethal cairn]

Wild guess new G1 will be both mule deer and grey wolf since this two are remodeled

[vivid cosmos]

Skull bear, fire bear, maggot bear, another skull bear, star bear super grounded

[stray basalt]

Not necessarily. Look at the whitetail, black bear, and moose (to an extent)

[agile cradle]

G1 Baden

[stray basalt]

Clearly that wasn’t the original vision

[red violet]

I will probably never see a GO, so I don't really care how outlandish and fantastical they look lol

[oblique plinth]

the black bear definitely have some unnatural patterns though

[vivid cosmos]

Predators and cliffs will be grinding

[dusky wolf]

The great one cherry blossom red fox looks so fake

The rest of the furs are fine for the fox except the bright pink one

I’m pretty sure it’s pink

I haven’t seen one in person

[agile cradle]

lmao

[oblique plinth]

theres some famous pink fox

i can't think of the name

[agile cradle]

so you see why its a G1 then

[red violet]

I mean, the GO moose are far from realistic either. they are still cool

[dusky wolf]

But not like bubblegum pink

[stray basalt]

Not necessarily, that typical rack is likely possible

And a few of those furtypes aren’t necessarily out of the question

[dusky wolf]

The ashen moose is probably the most realistic along with the birch

[agile cradle]

i've never seen a deer with vines growing on its antlers but we got that too

[whole wren]

The G1’s shouldn’t look like cod skins

[dusky wolf]

I kind of hope they keep giving some animals great ones with scars on them to make em seem old

[vivid cosmos]

GOs are supposed to look magical, till this day I believe that conspiracy that whitetail GO should have had the fabled fur as a base but it was bugged and the community liked them so much still they never changed it

[oblique plinth]

this is what i'm hoping for if we get GO lions. i want one super scarred-up

[dusky wolf]

Is the fabled piebald still bugged?

[vivid cosmos]

I have never seen one

[oblique plinth]

someone got one in this server in november

[whole wren]

Far cry did really good legendary animals

[oblique plinth]

they were interrogated, i think they passed the server sniff test

[willow skiff]

I think im hearing a capercaillie in the new YT short EW posted

[willow skiff]

or perhaps a falling tree

[vivid cosmos]

Still my conspiracy is that Wt were supposed to be like red deer eventually became

[oblique plinth]

yeah, far cry primal's legendary animals are awesome. i loved looking for them in game

[digital quartz]

I hate the lack of fabled fur types though

[oblique plinth]

fabled fur types would be cool but mostly i wish the GO whitetail model was bulkier

[vivid cosmos]

We have legendary animals the diamonds where once supposed to be World records, you can see it on wt and moose for example

[meager crater]

I wish they’d give us some new racks, it’s been awhile

[verbal peak]

No capercaille in Alberta

[vivid cosmos]

But the rarity is way too common

[willow skiff]

hm okay

[molten ocean]

i once got a whitetail long time ago that had some fur type that said "Fabled" something but it wasnt a great one and it was on a multiplayer server

it probably was modded

[meager crater]

Fabled piebald was supposed to be on G1 WT

Or at-least a possibility

[red violet]

they could do some pretty cool stuff with Grizzly GOs

[meager crater]

It eats me up that I don’t have some of the OG racks in diamond for a few animals, I wish they’d add OG racks into diamond rotations

[hollow tundra]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAlberta

[red violet]

🤨

[oblique plinth]

one of the furs could be like this maybe- a white bear with a reddish-orange streak down its back

i'd also love one with battle scars

or all of them

[meager crater]

An absolutely massive scarred up hyper aggressive Grizzly Bear G1 would feed families

[stiff leaf]

Two bear gos wouldn’t be the communities favorite unless the grizzly is like amazing

[stoic echo]

we just need remodels for them . before g1s 😄

[red violet]

why not both

[meager crater]

I don’t think the black bear G1 aged well, just fluffier black bears with crazy patterns

[oblique plinth]

great scar bear from far cry primal

[red violet]

just wanted to post that xD

[shy onyx]

How bout Mor'du?

[oblique plinth]

one of my favourite in-game animals ever, it's so sick

[red violet]

yeah, doesn't look very healthy... ba dum tsss

[oblique plinth]

that would be really cool, it'd be terrifying to hunt at night

[shy onyx]

Exactly, a night hunt in a blizzard

[stoic echo]

im not denying both , my brain just cant think of how to put sentences together rn 😭

[red violet]

xD

[shy onyx]

This feller shows up 😅

[red violet]

or just a very fat one

chonker

[oblique plinth]

i do love how fat the black bear GO is

[red violet]

they call him "The GO that couldn't run away"

[inland kite]

Heckin' chonker of a bear lmao

[oblique plinth]

i'll never forget seeing a brown bear for the first time at the zoo

[tidal light]

What is that

[oblique plinth]

at first i thought it was just hiding in its cave because i couldn't see anything in the enclosure, just a big boulder and a tree

then i realized the boulder had claws

[raven sigil]

Beer

[shy onyx]

Mor'du, my G1 grizzly idea, also the bear from Brave

[tidal light]

Weird bear

[tidal light]

Looks cool

But that'll rip you to shreds in seconds

That's the point I guess it's a grizzly

[shy onyx]

Not if I have my .375

[red violet]

Saw a grizzly(first time) about a month ago at the St. Louis zoo. Took some nice pictures. So cute. so deadly xD

[oblique plinth]

that brown bear was big enough that i started sweating. i can't imagine a grizzly

or a kodiak

[red violet]

the one I saw. was very close to the glass

[oblique plinth]

awww

you're right, he is cute

[tidal light]

They're cute

But would kill you

[shy onyx]

The grizzly at the zoo I work at is a very chill lady

[oblique plinth]

i've had a big fear of grizzlies ever since i saw this stupid movie as a kid

grizzly rage

it is terrible and cheap and not realistic at all

but i was young enough that it got me

[red violet]

saw polar bears for the first time ever too. What a big fckin creature

they just got them, they are still young..but holy moly

[vivid cosmos]

GO grizzly as the legendary grizzlies in RDR2

And online

[red violet]

this guy

[oblique plinth]

GO grizzly with a cloudy/scarred eye would be sick

i really hope they get confirmed for this map

they're such cool terrifying creatures, they have so much more potential than the grizzlies currently in game

even if they're not the new GO, which i don't expect them to be, i'd just like to see them get a remodel

[stray basalt]

10ga slug

[red violet]

I would be happy with just a remodel. They look awful U__U

I love the brown bears in COTW, they look so good.

Make the grizzlies look just a s good, pleaaaase

[oblique plinth]

the brown bear models next to the grizzly models in a lodge are hilarious

i have a melanistic grizzly i keep in the very back out of shame

[vivid cosmos]

I just wish we would feel the same fear of bears as we have of tigers in game, I'd ask for the same fear as the fear I got in the Long Dark but that game has permaDeath

[red violet]

this is nightmare material...

[oblique plinth]

agree, brown bears and grizzlies should be way more of a threat

mountain lions too

sometimes they do sneak up on people on trails

[vivid cosmos]

Mountain lions should stalk rarely and attack even more so

[red violet]

just recently saw a video of a dude getting attacked (and I think killed) by a mountain lion. Filmed it sneaking up on him..and he didn't use his gun.

[shy onyx]

I mean those animals usually would rather stay clear of you than attack you

[red violet]

stupid games and prices I guess

[vivid cosmos]

But it's super rare

[oblique plinth]

oh for sure they're not as intent on hunting people as tigers are

but every now and then

if they can scare off bears in game i should be more afraid of them too

[red violet]

would still make for a better experience having a mountain lion sneak up on you once in a while. Keep is thrilling

[vivid cosmos]

They should stalk but not attack

Only rarely

[oblique plinth]

maybe they could attack the more still/slow you are

if you're not making a lot of noise

[bleak ether]

Why is there not a new predator species? 🤔

[oblique plinth]

not looking at them

[lean mist]

this map is the perfect opportunity to rework them 🙏

[glacial oasis]

yes

[red violet]

we don't know the full list yet

[glacial oasis]

theres like

[brisk mauve]

The long dark mentioned 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

[vivid cosmos]

I would like bears to bluff charge and attack every once in a while not always run away

[glacial oasis]

7 more slots

which can be filled with old or new species

[red violet]

bluff charge would be sweet!

[glacial oasis]

hopefully mountain lions are in there and they get a rework

[oblique plinth]

yeah if you startle a bear and you're a few meters away it should do something about it

or near a feed site

[royal cliff]

Having two Bear species on one map is something I've been wanting to see for a minute lol

[shy onyx]

Feels like the right map to do it

[glacial oasis]

whered you get that

[vivid cosmos]

I feel it would be a bit of overkill but a fully canadian map without Grizzly would be lacking

[red violet]

hunter website

[lethal thunder]

from cotw website

[glacial oasis]

ah

[vivid cosmos]

The website

Oh

[red violet]

right there

[lethal thunder]

exactly

[glacial oasis]

anything else of note there?

[vivid cosmos]

Nope

[royal cliff]

So far my loadout is still looking like it'll be the .30-30, .45-70, and 10ga over and under.

[shy onyx]

You've got good taste

[royal cliff]

Depends on if they buff the .30-30 tho

Needs to cover 3-7

[weak smelt]

I hope they buff the .45-70 too

[vivid cosmos]

I have an Ol' Fashion load out

[shy onyx]

Ooh what is it?

[tall wedge]

You guys saw the new video they posted?

[vivid cosmos]

30-30, 45-70 and the cowboy revolver I forget the name

[weak smelt]

.45 lc

[shy onyx]

Irl it's the Colt Single Action Army

[weak smelt]

I might do .30-30, 10ga lever, and the .300

And .22 of course

[lean mist]

the short?

[stray basalt]

.308, 30-30, .22H, and crossbow

[jade thicket]

this is who we need grandpa bear

[shy onyx]

Ah the crossbow, you're a brave man 😅

[stray basalt]

It’s mega fun

[tall wedge]

Ye where the mulies? Come out of the forest

[shy onyx]

I bet but I suck with it so I just stick to the traditional bows

[lean mist]

yea its pretty cool

maybe something spooked them 👀

[shy onyx]

Sasquatch probably

[lean mist]

true

[tall wedge]

They seem to act similar now as they do in classic when a predator is close to them

[lean mist]

hope thats the case

[stone pine]

Here it is for those wondering what could those be running from it has to mean some sort of predator hopefully not the wolves we already know. (Also ignore the ending)

[lean mist]

Do you have a hole that needs to be

[tall wedge]

Wolverine maybe idk

Hopefully atleast

[shy onyx]

If they were spooked it's 99% likely it was wolves

[wraith gale]

Ummmm😂

Yeah that was interesting

[stone pine]

Yea or possibly moutian lion

[wraith gale]

Km now

Please no

[stone pine]

I said ignore that!!!!!!

[wraith gale]

😂😂😂

[tall wedge]

Yess it would be nice to see them in snow

[lean mist]

idk how much research they did on the area but in Alberta wolves take more elk while mountain lions prefer mule deer, so MAYBE that could be a hint

[wraith gale]

I don’t want more animals that will spook everything

No dude it would suck

😭

[lean mist]

just rework them

[tall wedge]

Or maybe the mule deer is next go so they post them

[wraith gale]

That’s fair but then you have wolves and maybe lynx

[stone pine]

True because grinding will be hell with everything spooking

[wraith gale]

Too many predators that are supposed to spook

[lean mist]

no i mean rework the whole spook system

[wraith gale]

It wouldn’t be fun at all

[wraith gale]

Ik

[lean mist]

and a cat rework ofc, to make them like tigers and leopards

[wraith gale]

I doubt they did that with everything else they added

That would fix the problem but there really can’t be a spook rework idk how they would do it

[stone pine]

Yeah, I don’t know if bears will spook or not but wolves will definitely and then the possibility of mountain lines that a bunch of people seem to think will happen

[wraith gale]

It works fine now it’s just annoying

[shy onyx]

Sadly it happens while hunting and in nature in general, prey runs when a predator is nearby

[wraith gale]

Wolves do bears don’t unless they changed it and lynx do if added

[wraith gale]

No sh*t but that doesn’t mean they need to be spooking every 5 minutes with 3 predator species what kind of argument is that😭

Sorry I spaced out lol

[shy onyx]

No argument at all, I'm not arguing

[wraith gale]

Bad grammar I’m fixing it

[lean mist]

just make it so they dont haul ass when a predator is 150m away, and just trot away when it gets close but isnt actually hunting them

[vivid cosmos]

Wolves do bears?

[wraith gale]

😮‍💨

Dominance I suppose

[vivid cosmos]

Kin ky

[wraith gale]

That would be nice make it a sight line or sound thing it is a little clunky

Idk I’d rather not have it in the game imo it’s kinda half baked

Like it’s not perfect and it’s not bad but it’s not great idk😭

[tall wedge]

They should make the predators eyes glow when flashlight or something is aimed at them, that would be scary as hell

[lean mist]

nah its definitely better than like bears chilling with deer at a lake

[wraith gale]

I agree with that

They just need to section it better the game just isn’t really formatted well for a spook system

[digital quartz]

Animals aren't real

[wraith gale]

Agreed

[vivid cosmos]

As far as I know they do have sight line, the senses are real good

[wraith gale]

I just think the way zones kind of get congested around water and how it’s set times where how on med ved lynx spook for all of reindeer drink time pretty much. Because of the over lap

[vivid cosmos]

Predators shouldn't have a spook radius

They should spook like they spook from the hunter

[shy onyx]

That's why I don't hunt drink zones most of the time lol

[hexed fjord]

what do yall think the animals are coming to the new map

[shy onyx]

The seven we don't know? I'm at least hoping grizzly with a remodel, other than that I really don't know

[hexed fjord]

Yes

[vivid cosmos]

Wolverine
🐇
Mountain goat
Grizzly
🐦
🦆

[shy onyx]

What are your predictions?

[hexed fjord]

Idk

[vivid cosmos]

When new rabbit and bird species are announced that's literally what I see

[tight raven]

And snow bunny

[lone forge]

This would actually be a cool species

[lean mist]

If it works like in classic

[tight raven]

Snow bunny's are SO pretty

[tight raven]

100% cute and silly

[toxic viper]

do yall think they finally changed the mule deer faces/eyes

they look so cursed currently

[lean mist]

looks like they did

[toxic viper]

like look how cute their faces look irl

[iron drum]

Looks like a deer face to me

[toxic viper]

look how cursed they are rn

mean ahh deer

[tight raven]

Vs the game💔

[shy onyx]

I mean that's the old racks but yeah they could look better

[shy onyx]

My beloved mule deer, so cursed

[vivid cosmos]

Even more cursed that's the big legacy rack

They where amazing when they were very small goblin deer with huge spiky racks

[vivid cosmos]

Nice casual flex btw

[toxic viper]

Idc the rack I’m talking about the faces

Like they look so ugly rn

way more adorable irl

[shy onyx]

Also tasty

[toxic viper]

hmm never tried deer ngl

[shy onyx]

Wild food is the best food

[toxic viper]

will keep that in mind one day

[shy onyx]

I'm assuming you don't hunt irl?

If not I recommend trying it

[viral quarry]

Yo any news since the trailer?

[vivid cosmos]

Imagine that they remodel all the most requested animals in the new update and they surprise us

[shy onyx]

Nope

[vivid cosmos]

We'll get more on Tuesday

[viral quarry]

Love the pfp btw

[shy onyx]

Thanks 😅

[viral quarry]

Ayyy sounds good, worth the wait

Last night I came up with a quote for launch 😂

"I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of beavers suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced"

[toxic viper]

nope just fishing haha

[toxic viper]

I will literally cry tears of joy

[shy onyx]

Oh cool! I haven't been fishing in too long

[viral quarry]

Just got a new pole, gotta take it out on a test run, gearing up with that good ol ugly stick

Buck knife on my side

I gotta get back to work, catch you guys later

[lone forge]

Where you at, what ya catching

[rough tree]

this would genuinely be so awesome

[dreamy goblet]

That would be very dope, yea.

[wraith ore]

I'm very much looking forward to the patch notes. Should be an interesting read.

[rough tree]

i'm still super excited for the Manitoban Elk and Wood Bison, i'll have to go bother the Bighorn Sheep as well since it looks like they got updated iirc

[nimble galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-on-skateboard-cat-skateboard-cat-spinning-spinning-gif-21095646

[dreamy goblet]

One thing that makes me happy about the new map is that we're getting some more Elk hunting opportunities. Cause lets be honest. The Elk species are quite limited in hunting reserves currently.

[rough tree]

i genuinely can't tell if mule deer got updated with what i've seen so far, but i'm holding out hope for them

[dreamy goblet]

Also, NGL, Im not too sure if we get Caribou on the Alberta map cause apparently they arent legally hunted there, but we will see.

[dreamy goblet]

Check the pinned messages.^^

[lone forge]

They seem so, I don't think they would add them without a rework

[rough tree]

tbf, you can't legally hunt water buffaloes in Nepal, but it's okay to do so on Sundarpatan

[dreamy goblet]

True.

[warm basin]

There was a video posted on twitter but that’s about it

[dreamy goblet]

But tbh, if they do add them they need a rework desperately 😭

[rough tree]

that's true, it would be weird to update bighorn sheep and grey wolves but not update mule deer and still include them, especially since they were also mentioned in those polls a while ago

[dreamy goblet]

Going off the pinned messages it appears that they will.

[weak smelt]

Roosevelt and rocky elk better get a remodel too

[rough tree]

omggg yeah, the Manitoban Elk set a new standard for the other two elk subspecies we have

[dreamy goblet]

We need more Elk love in general.-

[vivid cosmos]

Just copy paste the elk body

[dreamy goblet]

Ive loved them ever since I got my 400+ Score Roosie in Classic. What an experience.

[vivid cosmos]

Keep different heads lol

What's the difference they made in classic? The antlers and the roosies are darker in color right?

Do that, same model different antlers and colors

[rough tree]

the older elk models should still be remade though, you can see a huge quality difference between the roosevelt and rocky mountain ones, and even moreso with those two compared to the new one

[dreamy goblet]

I think so, yea.

[dreamy goblet]

Deffinetly, I feel like Elk hunting in CoTW just isnt what it could be in general.

[rough tree]

the difference here is crazy

[rough tree]

also yeah I agree. I've had that issue with a few different animals that tend to have distinct hunting vibes that aren't as present in-game

[dreamy goblet]

The Elk Justice is needed.

[rough tree]

i wish elk hunting was more focused on scouting out herds in more hilly areas rather than just "go find where they drink"

[shy onyx]

I do that in game, I don't really ever hunt drink zones

[rough tree]

yeah same, the only time I regularly go for drink zones is when I'm hunting moose in the central wetland areas on Yukon

[weak smelt]

.30-30 elk hunting too🙏 🙏

[shy onyx]

Uh not a great idea lol

[rough tree]

im pretty sure 30-30 Winchester irl is fully capable of taking elk and black bears with good success

i know Huxley Hound in this server uses his for elk and bears

[weak smelt]

yeah

[shy onyx]

Not really elk, most hunters don't consider a .30-30 a good elk cartridge unless you are very close and the animal is perfectly broadside

[rough tree]

it's why im hoping the new 30-30 (which shows it using a newer cartridge model) will be a stronger 3-7 round instead of being a 2-6 pea shooter

[shy onyx]

Elk have shaken off .30-06 rounds

[weak smelt]

also i wonder it that's a diamond rack in that picture

and this is probably like a small 4 or big 3

[shy onyx]

I'm guessing a three

[rough tree]

i've seen online discussion saying it's fine for elk as long as you stay within reasonable shot distances and don't hit the shoulder blade (something you should be avoiding anyway with large game bc scapulas are tough)

[proper wedge]

Use new Diamond Elk brand whitening strips, for that Winning Smile!

[rough tree]

i think it does somewhat depend on the load, bullet weight, etc., but everything i've heard and read suggests that it's a flexible and efficient cartridge

[inland kite]

If it is, I'm just glad that the antlers look more or less proportional with the main body, compared to a RM where it's antlers look wayyy to big to be supported

[shy onyx]

That is true, I hunt with a Marlin 336 .30-30 but I use a an 8mm Mauser for elk

[rough tree]

omg yeah, my guess is it's a diamond too, and the antlers look really good and also look like they make sense

[glacial summit]

where are you finding these

[rough tree]

i saw it on their website, it's the header image for the link to the article about the new DLC

[shy onyx]

theHunter official website

[stray basalt]

That one is from their home page on their website

[glacial summit]

Good to know

[rough tree]

another comparison of each elk subspecies :>

i can't get over how good the new one looks

the pose in that screenshot is a little odd for an elk but it still looks amazing

[stray basalt]

Yeah they have him posed like a red deer

[rough tree]

idk if it would happen, but i'd love to see an animation rehaul for a lot of animals

[inland kite]

like how you can kind of see how far the elk have come, in terms of quality, with each species

[shy onyx]

Imma be honest I freaked out when I first saw it, it looks so incredible

[sweet beacon]

These are Manitoban elk right?

[shy onyx]

Yep! A subspecies of the Rocky Mountain elk

[rough tree]

red deer and elk properly looking heavier/more weighty and less bouncy, smaller deer trotting like actual deer, mule deer stotting, etc.

[rough tree]

me too! their modeling skills have gotten so much better over the years

[sweet beacon]

Beautiful creatures, saw a few when I was up in Saskatchewan

[rough tree]

i would love to see elk in person someday

[sweet beacon]

Michigan has a pretty steady population! Almost completely Rocky Mountain if I’m not mistaken

[shy onyx]

Elk are my favorite North American game, I've hunted them my whole life and I am obsessed

[sweet beacon]

Call me basic, but I’m a whitetail guy

Easier to process imo

[shy onyx]

Yeah those are rockies, a good thing to remember is Rocky Mountain elk live East of the Rockies, and Roosevelts live West of em

[shy onyx]

No such thing as basic, I can't wait to start hunting whitetail now that I live in Oklahoma, too used to elk and mule deer

[sweet beacon]

I’d kill for a chance to hunt elk

They’re beautiful

And tasty

[inland kite]

Yeah, remember seeing a couple of roosevelt cows darting off while I went shooting up in the cascades

[pine lily]

I have seen them in person

they are larger than you think

its imposing

[shy onyx]

Indeed

[sweet beacon]

And I’d love to euromount one

[pine lily]

the bulls, especially in rut, just have an aura of raw power as well

especially mid bugle

worth the hearing damage to hear it within 50 yards imo

the way it echoes off the valley walls is something else

[shy onyx]

An elk bugle is my favorite sound in nature

Along with lion bellows

[rough tree]

i've seen a full-body Moose display at a Cabela's where I used to live and it's genuinely startling just how big they are, so I can imagine there would be a similar vibe with elk

[sweet beacon]

Elk bugle is my second favorite, nothing beats a red deer stag’s grunt

[rough tree]

like, you don't truly realize how big they are until they're right there in-person (even specimens like the one i mentioned that aren't alive)

[shy onyx]

Oh yeah, I've had a herd of about thirty elk run not a stones toss next to me and it was insane

[pine lily]

it's absurd, especially since most mounts in the US are Shiras Moose

which are the smallest of the 4 subspecies in North America lmao

[rough tree]

I was about to say that lol

[inland kite]

Told this story before in chat, but we actually have a lone bull roosevelt living on one of the islands here in Washington State, it got there by apparently swimming across an entire bay by mistake

[rough tree]

idk which moose subspecies this one was, i think they just dubbed it "moose" lol

[pine lily]

Yukon bulls from Alaska are basically demigods

[shy onyx]

Oh yeah I heard this one yesterday lol

[rough tree]

oh god yeah, isn't the Alaska Moose the largest of the North American subspecies?

[glacial summit]

Hoping for moose subspecies some day 🙏

[shy onyx]

Sure is

[pine lily]

its the largest of them all, the bulls average 1300lbs

[glacial summit]

Moose do make elk look tiny comparatively

[rough tree]

i would love this tbh

[pine lily]

which is twice the weight of the average rocky mtn elk bull

[inland kite]

Moose subspecies would go hard

[glacial summit]

Talking a 1200lb animal compared to a 700-800lb animal

[pine lily]

larger Yukon bulls usually have around 1500 to 1600lbs as well

[inland kite]

Probably give some fur variations depending on both the subspecies and region too

[dusk creek]

Im honestly hoping roosevelt get the manitoban model but the antlers are different

[pine lily]

typically about 6'8" to 7'0" at the shoulder

[glacial summit]

with GOs and everything I see why they dont, keep em all impressive rather than have some of them be smaller but I can dream

[pine lily]

and the world record is an alaskan bull

[long spade]

New ammo? Hope so, I've been dreaming of a 3-7 .30-30 for like 5 years now

[pine lily]

which was killed in 1897

and weighed 1,808lbs with a shoulder height of 7'7"

[weak smelt]

I believe that we will get a dev diary tomorrow or the day after, assuming they do the same things they did last year(which so far they have)

[pine lily]

gib new ammo pls

[shy onyx]

I'd rather run into a grizzly 😂

[glacial summit]

2-6 peashooter take it or leave it

[pine lily]

tank with antlers lmao

[dusk creek]

Id imagine wed get more news on tuesday, then the release the tuesday after that

[rough tree]

i feel like you could still give each one the same GO variants at least, though I could imagine it might be tricky implementing this change with the current moose we have

[dusk creek]

Maybe another tuesday

I hate tuesday

[shy onyx]

We get the release date next week 🙂

[long spade]

You European?

[shy onyx]

Could probably take a tank to be honest

[glacial summit]

No

[pine lily]

no hes just expressing doubt EW would ever fix the .30-30

[glacial summit]

^^^

[pine lily]

since theyve dogged it for so long

[shy onyx]

Nothing is wrong with the .30-30

[glacial summit]

Some gun has to be the worst gun

[pine lily]

they made a cartridge commonly used on black bear ethical for foxes

[rough tree]

i'm really hoping for this too, I want a good lever action rifle that looks clean while also not feeling genuinely broken (looking at you Moradi and your "heart shot through the entire body length of a moose")

[glacial summit]

its just ridiculously underpowered

[pine lily]

if I went out with my Henry and shot a fox I'd get two halves of a fox

[south urchin]

30-30 is ass

[weak smelt]

*right now at least

[long spade]

Yeah I know, it's a long shot but Way of the Hunter did it

[pine lily]

I love WOTH's .30-30

[glacial summit]

DO NOT slander my beloved 44(I am 44 crutch for fleeing shots on snowies)

[pine lily]

i use it to hunt elk lmao

[long spade]

Same

[pine lily]

I call them inside 50 yards then pop em in the heart

[south urchin]

The .243 used to be better in Woth

[rough tree]

idk if i'm just doing something wrong but my experiences with WotH's 30-30 haven't been good on stuff like whitetails, elk, etc.

[south urchin]

Then they buffed the 30-30

[long spade]

Potentially got something like these too if they got the Pic right

[pine lily]

oh Ive hammered muleys with it out to 250 yards

[rough tree]

i keep my shots within 100ish meters (ideally closer), I aim to avoid hitting bone, but then i'm tracking stuff for ages

[stray basalt]

🤢

[south urchin]

4 expansion 😭

[pine lily]

what ammo are you using in WOTH?

it has 3 types now

[rough tree]

i've tried both of the newer ones

[long spade]

Which ammo are you using?

[pine lily]

4 expansion on a cartridge known for 1.7 to 2.0x expansion IRL

yes

makes much sense

kill me please

[pine lily]

damn, thats odd af

my experience with the new ones is they slam deer sized animals and lower

ive used it to effect on bear and elk too

[stray basalt]

Applied to a style of bullet known for doing a perfect bit of both penetration and expansion.

[rough tree]

it's super weird though bc it flattens sika deer but then whitetails just take off

[rough tree]

i can load it up and try again though, maybe record my shots and have screenshots of the bullet screen

[pine lily]

hammerdown my beloved in the middle

99.5% mass retention

[rough tree]

clearly warrants 4 expansion in-game /sarcasm

[pine lily]

how .45-70 and .30-30 have been treated in this game make me sad

[rough tree]

i know omggg

[rough tree]

last time i checked .45-70 Govt is an absolute powerhouse on large game, but it struggles to do exactly that in-game

[rough tree]

y e a h

[pine lily]

modern bullets expand between 1.6 and 2.3x for .45-70 tmk, within optimal impact velocity at least

which means if there's enough animal and the bullet hits at the right speed

the wound channel

[long spade]

.45-70 badly needs a rework, new ammo, and it should use the regular scopes

[pine lily]

can be more than an inch wide

[stray basalt]

a crossbow penetrates more than the ingame 45-70

[pine lily]

deadass has the same reciever as the Moradi but has to use that shite side mount scope thatd wreck a Marlin action IRL

[rough tree]

bows, the crossbow, and the +pen .44 magnum when shot from the Moradi all do crazy penetration

but 30-30 is a close-range varmint round and .45-70 is "just enough" for red deer lol

[long spade]

The Moradi and the new rifle both you mean

[pine lily]

oui

[pine lily]

if I shot a racoon with a .30-30 there wouldnt be much raccoon left IRL

[rough tree]

y e a h

[pine lily]

if I have to I will literally wait til furbearer season

and cap one while out after rabbits

[stray basalt]

Speaking of raccoons

[pine lily]

and take a picture and post it in IRL hunting

to prove a point

[stray basalt]

I dumped a tube of whole 6 shells of buckshot into one and it didn’t even die.

[pine lily]

tungsten raccoon

[long spade]

Think if I made a block of ballistics gel and shot it on video that would make them reconsider?

[rough tree]

Honestly, it might be worth it

if possible do a comparison with some varmint rounds since they made the base game one 2-6 lol

[pine lily]

i can find a video of someone dropping a cow elk with 170gr loads at 310 yards with a .30-30 to add to the evidence mountain

ironically enough if i remember it right from when I last watched it the guy was in Alberta

[stray basalt]

It’s probably pure laziness at this point.

[shy onyx]

How are they lazy they've got a million things to work on lol

[pine lily]

ballistics gel comparisons definitely lend to the difference

most .22 cal cartridges dont get base 14" in gel

.30-30 across all hunting loads averages 20"

higher end is 25 to 27

namely federal hammerdowns and heavier rounds like 170 and 190gr bullets

[long spade]

I've got a .30-30, .223, and .44 mag on hand but no gel

Sadly

[pine lily]

take a bunch of pine boards or similar wood and set them bastards up in a rack so theyre in a row and see how many they all go through

[shy onyx]

Just make a big block of jello

[stray basalt]

a million things that don’t involve improving the base game? The thing that should keep a steady flow of new players?

[long spade]

Could do a ballistic buffalotype thing. A six foot block of wet newspapers

[pine lily]

they have kinda intentionally ignored the base game in a lot of ways it seems

[rough tree]

yeahhh

[pine lily]

could also get a few cow femurs and shoot one with each cartridge

[rough tree]

there's a puny arrangement of weapons to use in the base game, and their age definitely shows (do NOT look at the iron sights of the Coachmate)

[pine lily]

and watch as the .22 ones cause a sprial fracture with a hole while .30-30 blows a whole section out

[long spade]

It's not encouraging that it specifically says "small to medium game"

[pine lily]

demonstrate the energy difference

[shy onyx]

Most people care more about getting new things than improving old things, they can't make everyone happy, trust me I wish they could improve the base game more

[pine lily]

theyre never gonna respect .30-30 I swear

[pine lily]

the least they could do is give .30-30 and .45-70 some justice

[stray basalt]

Hell, I’ve been seeing a lot of European’s start to understand the power in 30-30 as of late.

It puts quite the wallop on roe deer

[acoustic plank]

I wonder were the deers running from something in the new video

[rough tree]

yeah I'm really worried about this ngl

[shy onyx]

Agreed

[rough tree]

unless "small game" means roe deer and axis deer lol

[pine lily]

ig on the bright side the article has (i think) been editedto specify whitetail deer and gray wolf

[long spade]

Part of it is European bias against it because they don't see it often enough to know how strong it is. I have a neighbor from Germany who literally lectured me about it being "unfit for game as large as whitetail deer "

[rough tree]

that's so insane lol

30-30 Winchester kinda got its reputation here in the states as the deer cartridge for a reason

[pine lily]

and was made famous as a capable brush gun thanks to its use by moose and bear hunters

[long spade]

Insane is the look on his face when he watched me kill an elk with it

[rough tree]

if it was too weak for whitetails, it wouldn't have become one of the most widely used deer cartridges in US history

[pine lily]

this is so spiteful and I love it

I applaud you sir

[long spade]

Oh I fully stole his kill when I did it, he was watching through the scope

[pine lily]

HAH

HOLY CRAP THATS FANTASTIC

[long spade]

Don't make fun of the rifle that fed my family for almost 20 years

He said he saw the bullet hit and a huge spout of blood shot out both sides, I got a full pass through that took out a rib and the whole time we were cleaning it he kept going back and looking at the rib like he couldn't believe it

[pine lily]

.30-30 Supremacy

[long spade]

Way too many people look at the numbers on ballistics sheets and forget what they actually mean in the field

[rough tree]

ooo yeah that's a huge thing

You can look at the numbers all you want, but actual tangible results are a different thing

[long spade]

In talking with my neighbor he told me he never saw a .30-30 cartridge before he came to America. Apparently it's just not a thing in most places and yet his family joked about "cowboy guns being made for tv"

[pine lily]

😐

[rough tree]

:/

[pine lily]

does this make you want to sit in the corner and roll up into a ball and just be sad and disappointed

cause thats how it makes me feel

[keen marlin]

30 Cal rounds are generally considered an American or North American thing, right?

[long lintel]

This map looks amazing dude

[pine lily]

no Europe has plent of its own, lots of old Mauser and Enfield cartridges

its just .30-30 specifically gets bullied

[gray reef]

im american and dont know guns .30-30 means nothing to me 🗣️

[long lintel]

When’s the reserve coming out

[pine lily]

dunno, no release date yet, but likely June 17

[stray basalt]

In the near future

[long lintel]

Mannn I can’t wait. It looks phenomenal.

Especially the beavers man they look incredible

[gray reef]

july 32nd

[long lintel]

Like seriously they look so adorable

[long spade]

Much as I love it I'm not gonna say the .30-30 is a perfect all rounder, there's several animals I wouldn't think of using on just here in the US. But for elk? It's worked just fine so far. Black bear? I have taken down about a dozen myself. I'm not worried about taking on wild boar or red deer either.

[long lintel]

Did the mule deer get a remodel as well?

Cuz they look so much different in the trailer

[pure cosmos]

potentially

[pine lily]

yup, bighorns too

[stray basalt]

It is appearing so

[gray reef]

seems so joe

[pure cosmos]

bighorns look so good😫

[long lintel]

The bighorns look incredible omg

Same with the Manitoban Elk

[pure cosmos]

that manitoban elk looks fire as well

[long lintel]

But the gray wolves man

[pure cosmos]

if they added mountain lions they def getting a remodel and it finna look so good too

[pine lily]

hunter's best friend as far as cartridges go in the US imo

[vivid cosmos]

Mule deer look good as well

[pine lily]

it works well

[keen marlin]

But the US invented the basic .30 Calibers right? That's what I was more so getting at.

[long lintel]

This might be my new favorite map once it comes out

[pine lily]

sorta, most popular .30 cals are US origin but Europe had several of its own between 1880 and 1950

[shy onyx]

It already is my favorite

[long lintel]

Bro the beavers look so adorable omg

[pure cosmos]

you have gunther in your description but not our tribal chief🤨

[long lintel]

Sorry

But anyways

The beavers look so damn cute

[dusky wolf]

The wood ducks look so nice bro

I hope they get added to other maps like silver ridge peaks

[pure cosmos]

beavers do look good fr

might be the most polished map when it comes out

[dusky wolf]

Here’s hoping for beavers on Layton

[long lintel]

Silver Ridge Peaks is probably the most beautiful map in the game

[stray basalt]

I’d much prefer Mississippi

[vivid cosmos]

I don't think this map will defeat sundar Patan unless we get 3 species of mountain sheep or goats

[stray basalt]

SRP isn’t really built for ducks

[pure cosmos]

sundar overrated

it’s pretty asf tho

[keen marlin]

Gotcha. We're on the same page then.

[vivid peak]

Anything beats sundar

Sundar is actually ass

[shy onyx]

Askiy Ridge >

[tight raven]

(sorry that i didn't respond)

[vivid cosmos]

Nice bait

[vivid peak]

Not bait

[dusky wolf]

Seeing the beaver lodged and beaver dams I wonder if the beavers will act like the euro rabbits where they have a spot they spawn at but come out at specific times

Or they might have their own ai thing

[long lintel]

In your guys opinion, what is the best trurac in the game? For me it’s Mule Deer.

[vivid peak]

Genuinely

[weak smelt]

Moose

[pure cosmos]

def not bait

[vivid peak]

Moose

[dusky wolf]

Does tru horns count?

[long lintel]

Moose is 2 for me

[pure cosmos]

moose

[vivid peak]

It isn't bait

[long spade]

At this point it's bullying a senior citizen for .30-30, it's so old it was originally meant for black powder cartridges.

Here's the thing it's so old and still being made because it WORKS

[stray basalt]

Mule deer racks🤢

[vivid cosmos]

Sundar has the best mechanics of every map and the most exiting roster of animals

[weak smelt]

Moose are the one animal that actually has good racks, everything else sucks

[pure cosmos]

that’s what i said😭

[vivid peak]

I don't like Sundar.

[long lintel]

Its bias cuz Mule Deer is my favorite deer LMAO

[pine lily]

thats where its name comes from

the original designation was .30-30-160

a .30 cal bullet

30gr of powder

[dusky wolf]

The red deer tru racks for your average stags really don’t look good

[pine lily]

160gr bullet

[vivid cosmos]

Mule deer won the poll for new racks

[vivid peak]

Exciting? I disagree

[pine lily]

why do they bully the old

[long lintel]

What’s the most underrated reserve rn

[stray basalt]

Yeah but we haven’t seen em yet

[vivid peak]

Def hirsch

[pine lily]

The USSR

[stray basalt]

Mississippi

[vivid cosmos]

What is your favorite map i bet it's bland

[weak smelt]

Mississippi or NEM

[vivid cosmos]

Lol

I knew it

[pure cosmos]

sundar is overrated but it’s not the worst by any means

[vivid peak]

Hirsch or rev

[dusky wolf]

They kind of needed it honestly

They don’t look good for a lot of the regular bucks

I find only the level fives to look good

[gray reef]

Mississippi

[pine lily]

dueling tigers with the .375 is fun business

[vivid peak]

Top 10

[long lintel]

For me it’s probably Mississippi

[weak smelt]

That's fair ngl, both are great

[vivid cosmos]

Blandest maps with no mechanics lol

[dusky wolf]

Yukon is a personal favorite

[weak smelt]

Hell naw

[pure cosmos]

that’s extremely vague

[vivid peak]

Yukon is easily third

[keen marlin]

I think it was more so used out of convenience and necessity than anything else though.

It's hard to find verifiable numbers surrounding whether the dirty 30 or the .06 is actually the #1 deer gun.

[long lintel]

Bro Yukon Valley is INCREDIBLE

[glacial summit]

YUKON MENTIONED!!!

[gray reef]

even the 5s ugo

[vivid peak]

HIRSCH HAS SHEDS

[long spade]

Beware the old man in a profession where men die young

*looking at you wssm cartridges *

[glacial summit]

YEAHHHHHH

[long lintel]

Especially the story mission man

[dusky wolf]

My only complaint of Yukon valley is the lack of small game species

[vivid cosmos]

Bland again, snow mechanic is nice

[amber kiln]

Parque and Hirsch is my favs lmao

[pure cosmos]

it has a singular shed

[dusky wolf]

We dont even have rabbits or hares on Yukon

[shy onyx]

So does Layton, SRP, Vurhonga

[weak smelt]

100%, desperately needs it

[dusky wolf]

Let alone ptarmigans and other duck species

[glacial summit]

The map has become rather outdated but will always have a place in my heart

[vivid peak]

No way! Snow. Bud, midved and Yukon have that too

[glacial summit]

Bman detected, opinion rejected

[gray reef]

parqye y yukon para mi

[dusky wolf]

Yukon however is arguably the worst for Canada goose hunts

[vivid peak]

Hirsch is so good

[gray reef]

meanie botch

[glacial summit]

No habla espanol por favor

[long lintel]

The Savanna map?

[pure cosmos]

hirsch is overrated, and nobody likes it. i hope that says sum

[vivid cosmos]

We were talking about Yukon bud, and medved doesn't have the snow building mechanic

[gray reef]

hablas*

[weak smelt]

❌❌

[vivid peak]

This is just wrong

[pine lily]

lol

[amber kiln]

Como se llama

[glacial summit]

No

[gray reef]

no

[weak smelt]

como se alpaca

[vivid peak]

So what? It's still snow.

[glacial summit]

https://tenor.com/view/llama-mirada-gif-8834856

[vivid peak]

Snow sucks anyway

[glacial summit]

👎

[long lintel]

Yukon Valley & Silver Ridge Peaks are probably my 2 favorite reserves in the game

[weak smelt]

Medved overrated as hell tho

[vivid cosmos]

You are the one that said Yukon is number 3 bud

[gray reef]

map i killed both my lvl 5s on

[dusky wolf]

Vurhonga is a mixed map imo

There’s a lot of good but there’s some things that just don’t make me want to come back for long

The species list is rather lacking, I like the wide open spaces but it feels dated nowadays texture wise

The models for practically all the animals really haven’t aged well

[weak smelt]

And srp

[vivid peak]

Yeah, cause it is.

[amber kiln]

Srp definitely is

[vivid cosmos]

Why?

[vivid peak]

But snow isn't why I like it

[dusky wolf]

It really needs more small game

Capercaillie is literally the only class 1 species on the map

[long lintel]

Hell no bro I love SRP

[gray reef]

Rare Bebal L

[vivid peak]

SRP is fourth