🦡︴cotw-scotland

[brittle pumice]

this dudes estimate was 484-552 to im so annoyed rn

[hexed lichen]

I got a spirit bear off that map too

[brittle pumice]

and just found 2 lv 5 sambar deer in the same spot lmao

[hexed lichen]

Wait what level do hog deer go up to

I just shot a lvl 4 with the wrong gun and only thought about what they max at after

[low citrus]

Lvl 5

But they can make diamond at lvl 4

[hexed lichen]

Whew lol

Oh xD

I guess we'll see then lol

He was 91 points so would have been a gold 🙂

[haughty storm]

Has there been any glitches with the mission stuff on this map?

[hexed lichen]

Not in my experience

I played thru all the main missions last night with no issues

Working on the side missions now 🙂

[haughty storm]

Ok thank you!

[hoary arrow]

im playing them rn and havent run into any issues

[brittle pumice]

im gonna lose it

[haughty storm]

Awesome, I'll give it a go tomorrow 👍

[brittle pumice]

second one fled i swear to god if that one trolls to

[hoary arrow]

damn thats tough

[mortal lark]

I got a level 5 sambar that was like 0.10 points away from diamond

[sharp jewel]

thats rough sorry to hear that

[turbid robin]

so close

[slim schooner]

Is emerald coast worfit

[brazen steppe]

Heartbreaking

[hexed lichen]

I think so

[slim schooner]

Oki

[sharp jewel]

only you can decide that but in my personal opinion yes because the amount of money you get out of it. the rusa and sambar give you tons of money for low level as well as red deer and fallow

[hexed lichen]

The missions are fun and not very long, the map is pretty, the crocs are a lot more fun to hunt than the alligators were, and also like echo just said the map has a lot of high paying species

Oh yeah and the gun that comes with the map is pretty nice.

It's for smaller animals and it's light in weight

[slim schooner]

how much it cost on steam

[slim schooner]

i just restarted from start

got eet

im broke i just got it and now i got nothing to my name

[hexed lichen]

Like 8 bucks I think

You can try it out for free if you get in multi-player

[slim schooner]

20% off

neh its australia i want it xD

i used to own everything now i got like 12 addons and got game yesterday

like "yesterday"

[hexed lichen]

Actually if you're on right now I can switch my game to multi player and let you try it out lol

[slim schooner]

nah i bought it alr lol

thanks anyways

[hexed lichen]

Okay 😄

[slim schooner]

maybe u could help me get some housees

to fast travel

lodges*

[hexed lichen]

Multi-player has been having issues recently so you'll get a better experience overall in single player anyways lol

Yeah I can do that 😄

Anyone know what diamond weight is for salties?

[wintry frost]

1100 kg I think

is max weight anyway

[slim schooner]

thanks just getting my password reset i forgot it

@hexed lichen i got it fixed

[hexed lichen]

Okay!

I'll switch it over now

[slim schooner]

ok

uhm can i add u

on apex

can i msg u?

[hexed lichen]

Yep my apex is BrutusisaDog#9999

Game is open and public now

[slim schooner]

i cant copy paste /:

[hexed lichen]

Try searching for public games on emerald coast

[slim schooner]

sent

[hexed lichen]

You should see my username

[slim schooner]

nah i found it

[hexed lichen]

Alright sent an inv

[slim schooner]

i might lag as i live in iceland lol

[brazen steppe]

I might add you to play on it some other time

[hexed lichen]

Sure! ^^

[sand pasture]

Max weight class for tracks is 856-1100, but then it could be a 7-9

[slim schooner]

i luv nitro

[golden silo]

i seen a 6 with this weight estimate

[sand pasture]

Now when you say it i think i have seen 1 also

But 6 with Max weight estimate is really rare

[golden silo]

that is what i wanted to say

[red citrus]

?

[slim schooner]

i showing @hexed lichen

[hexed lichen]

None of those are lodges no

There's a free lodge now that

Tho*

[midnight moon]

[slim schooner]

whats the best lodge in ur opinion

[hexed lichen]

I haven't checked out the new free one yet so I can't really say anything about that one

[brazen steppe]

I think it’s pretty small

[hexed lichen]

But between the Africa lodge and the Europe lodge, the Africa one is better

[brazen steppe]

I just bought the Savannah one because it has the most mounts

[hexed lichen]

It feels a lot more open too

The Europe one is all squished in

[brazen steppe]

Havent used it yet though because I don’t have a Diamond 😭

[brittle pumice]

second one made diamond thank god

[hexed lichen]

Certain maps have tons of diamonds if that's your main goal

[unkempt condor]

What do I even title this

[hexed lichen]

I think new Zealand and silver ridge are both rlly good for diamonds

[hexed lichen]

HOW DID YOU GET IN

I was trying for like 20 minutes yesterday and I was more upset that I couldn't get in there than I was about not being able to shoot them

[unkempt condor]

Took me 3 minutes of looking around

[unkempt condor]

You just open the gate

[hexed lichen]

Where's the gate o:

[unkempt condor]

All fences in the sanctuary have a gate that you need open

[hexed lichen]

Omggg lol

[unkempt condor]

To get in

[hexed lichen]

Howd I miss it

Tysm

[brazen steppe]

I think diamonds are a conspiracy on Layton

[hexed lichen]

Yeah the original 2 maps are the hardest to hunt imo

[uneven bloom]

Diamond count is randomized across maps, actually

[hexed lichen]

Yeah I know, but on some maps it's just so much easier to find them

[unkempt condor]

Did you find it?

[brazen steppe]

At the same time if I do end up getting one on Layton it’ll be more satisfying

[stone pine]

Anyone got a pic of a light brown croc?

[wintry frost]

I haven't seen one!

[candid forge]

rip

[candid forge]

where's your zone

[brazen steppe]

Mocha

[candid forge]

Ok

[candid forge]

What does that mean?

[brazen steppe]

Fur

[brittle pumice]

feed zone rly close to the most bottom right outpost

[candid forge]

time?

[brittle pumice]

6:00-9:00

[candid forge]

recently hunting fallow and sambar but tbh sambar is more fun to hunt

[brittle pumice]

i ran into them while hunting banteng they are more opportunity kills to me

[brittle pumice]

ye but certain species make diamond more often than others so if a map has a lot of species that make diamond often then your more likely to get a diamond on that map

[uneven bloom]

fair point

[forest aspen]

This setup is fire

[uneven bloom]

208-something

be warned: they troll frequently

[stuck tapir]

208.71

Could be diamond or gold

[uneven bloom]

oh 208

darn you, brain

darn you

[stuck tapir]

14.05

[uneven bloom]

Possibly, but probably a troll

they are Aussie reindeer

that's normal for all animals

Next day, yes

[jade thicket]

just find nearest watering hole

prolly there too

the little river systems are full of feral goats

roos are mainly in the bottom two sections same as goats

[violet ravine]

idk 10

[fossil owl]

Are the tripod and tree stand worth it?

[uneven bloom]

Yes

[fossil owl]

on a scale of 1-10 how worth it
and is it easy to use/learn

[uneven bloom]

It's as simple as finding a nice open spot (tripod) or tall tree (treestand) to set up, then just get in the blind

Solid 10 from me

[fossil owl]

what would I use the tripod for, I know I can use the treestand to camp like drinking zones without being spotted

Also does it weigh much

[brazen steppe]

Weighs 6

[fossil owl]

uh

wait doesn’t weight affect your sound

[brazen steppe]

No

I don’t think so

Unless you have a backpack on

[fossil owl]

no I don’t

[cobalt ingot]

i mean you would just pick it up set it up on a tree and come back later is how i do it

[fossil owl]

What use is tripod

[cobalt ingot]

well it makes you harder to be spotted by animals so its a good idea when you are going through eating or drinking zones or if you are grinding for a great one

[brazen steppe]

It just hides you you can place it anywhere and you get a good vantage point. Only downside is I think it makes some noise when you set it up for a second but that’s it

[cobalt ingot]

you cant set it up close to foliage like trees and all that so it has to be in the open

[brazen steppe]

Yea but that’s the best part is even in the open you’re basically completely hidden. They can still smell you though

[fossil owl]

what so like I hide but check the tripod for when an animal is there

[brazen steppe]

Nah the tripod is a thing you sit in

[cobalt ingot]

yeah

[fossil owl]

huh?

[brazen steppe]

It’s sets you about 6 feet off the ground and there’s a chair you can sit in

[fossil owl]

ain’t a tripod something you put a camera on

[brazen steppe]

Yea but it’s that with a chair on it instead

[fossil owl]

so basically like the tree thing but not on a tree?

[brazen steppe]

Yes

[cobalt ingot]

tripod is something you climb and sit on top off makes it easier to hunt specific zones

[fossil owl]

so could be quite useful for camping drinking zones

[brazen steppe]

Yep

[cobalt ingot]

yea

[fossil owl]

So I’m not too close and they can’t see me

hmm

How much is it on sale?

[cobalt ingot]

you should be at least 200 meters away so you dont make sounds getting on top of the tripod iirc

[cobalt ingot]

you might already have some when you start the game at least 5 of em

[fossil owl]

wait it’s free?

thought it was dlc

[brazen steppe]

Nah it is dlc

[cobalt ingot]

no you get 5 for free when you start iirc
they cost 1600 dollars tho in game

yeah its a dlc

[fossil owl]

How much is the dlc

[cobalt ingot]

i think its free idk you could go check it out

[fossil owl]

no I know there’s only one feee dlc and it’s a gun customising one

[cobalt ingot]

there is many more free dlcs

[brazen steppe]

I think it’s like 1.39 right now

[cobalt ingot]

not only 1

[brazen steppe]

I just checked for you

[cobalt ingot]

right

[fossil owl]

On epic?

[uneven bloom]

EG / Steam platform difference

[brazen steppe]

Yes

[fossil owl]

Aight I can prob do that

[uneven bloom]

earlier "free DLCs" are built into the EG version's base game

[brazen steppe]

A lot of dlcs on sale rn

[fossil owl]

yeah I’ve picked up a bunch

[cobalt ingot]

pretty much all of the dlcs are on sale

very cheap rn too

[fossil owl]

think I’ve saved like £20 on docs

dlcs*

[brazen steppe]

I bought a couple maps since they’re very cheap rn

[fossil owl]

Got the African one

Will the tripod dlc be good for that?

[brazen steppe]

It should be good on every map. Just find an open area near feed or drink zones and wait

[fossil owl]

any tips on hunting small game with handguns?

.22LR

[brazen steppe]

Keep in mind they can still smell you though so try to position your tripod accordingly

[fossil owl]

because I really struggle with small game

Like hares and foxes etc

[brazen steppe]

Not sure I haven’t really hunted small game yet and the ones I have hunted i obliterated with the .454 magnum

[fossil owl]

I use the 10mm or the 22LR

thinking about maybe swapping my 10mm for a .45 air rifle but the glock is so cool

[brazen steppe]

Having a scope helps a lot so you don’t have to get that close

[fossil owl]

that’s what I was thinking about

cuz my sight on my glock is 1x

[brazen steppe]

Yea

I’ve had mallard’s land right next to me while I was crouching though so idk

[fossil owl]

do you have any quick xp tips

Tryna get more skills and perks for heart rate and stealth

[brazen steppe]

I’ve heard duck hunting on revontuli is good or you can do what I did and just do the main story missions for each map

[fossil owl]

yeah I’m just stuck on one cuz I can’t find any springbok

[brazen steppe]

I explored my map quite a bit to find a lot of need zones and now the missions are a breeze cause I can just rest and wait at zones for the story animals

[sterile lotus]

finally got a diamond croc

forgot to screenshot

but it’s 1023.8

[brazen steppe]

Sick

[hidden stream]

i literaly had no idea

[feral dragon]

FUCKEDDD UPPP a diamond kangaroo & a saltie😭😭

[hidden stream]

oof

wait

TWICE

[jade nexus]

Whole room in my lodge dedicated to messed up diamonds

[sand pasture]

Absolutely crazy day today in emerald 2 Piebald red deer female, Albino gold banteng, Diamond red deer, Diamond sambar and diamond axis deer

[subtle saddle]

I think u need to take ur time with shots and not rush them

[jade nexus]

But I get tired of waiting for it to be broadside and I've done the quartering shot a ton of times

It just fails when it matters most

[hidden stream]

im gonna steal that idea

[jade nexus]

It's painful adding additions

[hidden stream]

yeahh

[jade nexus]

I've added multiple

[hidden stream]

why

dol

they

not

die

[fickle rose]

Can anyone tell me max weight for stubble quail? KGS and LBS if possible?

[hidden stream]

3.5KG

[fickle rose]

I thought it was less than that, Like point something

[hidden stream]

thats what the spreeadsheet says

[wide talon]

0.11kg female 0.10kg male

[uneven bloom]

the spreadsheet also has a "?" next to it, so it's not confirmed

[hidden stream]

fair

[uneven bloom]

I think it's safe to say no one knows for sure yet

[ashen pine]

0.13kg

[slim schooner]

💀

[quartz lotus]

Hunt at next map!!??

[uneven bloom]

That was the Acres clue

[quartz lotus]

But then why is there snow?

[uneven bloom]

it is way too early to even think about the new map

"Rivers of NA" referencing the Mississippi river

[quartz lotus]

It's already in production

[uneven bloom]

but nowhere near release.

[quartz lotus]

Rivers of "North america" there's so many rivers

[mighty dove]

Yeah but we won’t have any idea what it is until December

[quartz lotus]

But they normally throw out teasers on other map releases too

[uneven bloom]

that exact same poster also exists in a ruin just off the road in Hirsch somewhere.

[mighty dove]

We just got EC, let’s take time to appreciate it lol

[uneven bloom]

it's a reused asset for decoration

[quartz lotus]

I never ever said I didn't appreciate it

[uneven bloom]

not to mention I'm pretty sure most of the community would riot if we got another NA map

especially one similar to what we have already

[quartz lotus]

Whiterhime ridge?

[uneven bloom]

that's probably the only thing that would get a pass.

[quartz lotus]

Texas exotic would prolly pass too

[uneven bloom]

Central Canada might work too, so long as it's an American equivalent of Revontuli

but anything like a reskin? wouldn't go over well

[quartz lotus]

I'm hoping it's a northern Canada/Greenland map

[mighty dove]

Dude I tried typing like three times and I got trampled by a stampede of fallow

[quartz lotus]

😭

[uneven bloom]

"how dare you not pay attention to us"

[mighty dove]

Anyway, I wasn’t meaning to say you didn’t appreciate EC, but you’ll go crazy trying to find clues this early lol

Maybe you are crazy though. Maybe we’re all crazy

[midnight moon]

next map better be a whiterhime ridge remake

[quartz lotus]

I walked in to the bathroom in the camper and accidentally found it😭

[quartz lotus]

Remake? There's not even a map like it uet

Yet*

[mighty dove]

AH

[midnight moon]

i know i meant from classic into cotw

[mighty dove]

I got trampled again

[quartz lotus]

Oh

[mighty dove]

What is with these deer

[brazen steppe]

It’s personal for them

[mighty dove]

I understand. I have killed hundreds of their brethren after all

[slim schooner]

Nah they just dont like u in general i think

[mighty dove]

Also understandable. I am not a likeable person

[finite wagon]

Behold
#1122396586866135181

Does greenland actually count as north america i thought it was its own thing

[quartz lotus]

It is north America, it's just a big island

[wind ridge]

After seeing that the work of the Australian animals was done based on European animals I would not be surprised to see another European reserve in December

whit a Wild Boar GO

or Euro Bison

[blazing turtle]

Well Central Asia is also a potential location for a Wild Boar Great One

[uneven bloom]

honestly, some of the map suggestions I've seen that have gotten a lot of upvotes (comparatively) sound good in theory, but...particularly the blacktail and roosevelt ones? They'd look like Layton/Yukon or some mix of the two, and I'm really not sure how well that'd go over with the community.

because there would inevitably be an avalanche of "why didn't they just backfill Layton/Yukon instead of giving us another NA map"

[mortal lark]

my hawaii reserve has blacktail

[uneven bloom]

the deer species found in Hawaii are axis deer and mule deer

so the realism-only crowd would go rabid if it had blacktail

[mortal lark]

blacktail deer are literally listed on the hawaii fish and wildlife website

[dapper matrix]

can we join vcs

[mortal lark]

https://dlnr.hawaii.gov/recreation/hunting/mammal/

[uneven bloom]

well then

it's fun when google gives you vague sources as first results

[dapper matrix]

my first bantang was a diamod

[slow plover]

First animal of the day never thought I’d be so happy to get a diamond goat

[uneven bloom]

though that does leave the issue of the world map

[dapper matrix]

so if we join mutiplay we can grop chat

[slow plover]

I just saw the horn and thought it looks like a diamond and it was

[uneven bloom]

#🦌︴find-a-game

[mortal lark]

wouldn’t be hard to add

or they could just put it in the middle of the ocean lol

[uneven bloom]

that does leave the problem of Roosevelt elk though

[brazen steppe]

The perfect place for it

[uneven bloom]

those things' range is even worse than the blacktail

I know I've been stuck on this for like a week now but unfortunately I do not control what my autism decides to get itself stuck on. And this is an issue that is legitimately bothering me with the game.

[haughty storm]

Indian Subcontinent map...?

[uneven bloom]

hunting is outright illegal in India.

huge cultural thing

[haughty aurora]

Poacher simulator😈

[haughty storm]

Hmm, Sri Lanka? lol

Indian Subcontinent is not entirely just India although it takes up most of it

[mortal lark]

zimbabwean rhino poacher simulator

[haughty aurora]

To win you have to drive the animal to extinction

In the wild

[carmine mason]

So no whitetail

[mortal lark]

lmfao

[mortal lark]

yep

I think

[carmine mason]

Bangladesh

[haughty storm]

Yeah another possibility

[haughty aurora]

Pakistan

[mortal lark]

idk about bangladesh but pakistan would be cool

[carmine mason]

Nepal Pakistan

Myanmar ???

[haughty aurora]

Burma

[mortal lark]

guerilla warfare simulator

[haughty storm]

Myanmar

[haughty aurora]

Either one

[brazen steppe]

Cotw with pvp

[haughty aurora]

I use burma to sound smart

[haughty aurora]

Vietnam map

[mortal lark]

that would be sick tbh

[haughty storm]

Get southeast Asia but getting close to Australia lol

[carmine mason]

Worst map in cotw would without a doubt would be Moldova Tuvalu or Myanmar

[haughty storm]

Maldives lol 😂

[brazen steppe]

Until you down a Diamond and I shoot you and take it home

[mortal lark]

luxembourg

monaco

[haughty aurora]

The weather would be floods

[carmine mason]

Vatican City

[haughty aurora]

Cuba

[carmine mason]

Sealand

[haughty aurora]

Russia 2

[carmine mason]

That wouldn’t be bad

[haughty aurora]

Confederate states of American

Oh wait

They don’t exist😹😹😹😹

[mortal lark]

mississippi

[brazen steppe]

Yea it’d mask your scent because it carries you away in the flood

[haughty aurora]

Not the csa it’s usa now

[mortal lark]

yeah ik but it was

[haughty aurora]

The trophies float away

[carmine mason]

Common trader L union 🔛🔝

[haughty aurora]

Facts

[mortal lark]

new jersey map

[haughty storm]

Too polluted lol

[mortal lark]

greek map

[brazen steppe]

That would be fire

[mortal lark]

swiss map

would be beautiful

[brazen steppe]

Norway

[slow plover]

canada

[slow plover]

they should add thermal scopes and bipods to the game

[vital blaze]

Canada with snow storms thermal scope and gun camouflage aka mesh

This stuff

And perhaps charms 👀

More customizable guns to make them all unique and fit for you

[slow plover]

true

ngl i thought the base game map was based in Canada at first then found out its american

[uneven bloom]

Layton's based on British Columbia iirc

[midnight moon]

People think its washinton but its not washington because we don’t have that many whitetail and moose

[slow plover]

is it? i thought it was in the US as the trophy house has a US flag

[uneven bloom]

y'know, I haven't really explored the outside of that lodge

[slow plover]

fair i just did because why not and yea its a US flag

[uneven bloom]

alright I stand corrected then

[midnight moon]

If its washington its near the border of bc

[slow plover]

it is most likely

[vital blaze]

Layton Lake

[slow plover]

yea

[vital blaze]

I live in Washington

It's set on the west side of the mountains

Near Oregon

Somewhere in this area

[quasi holly]

is there a god

[vital blaze]

And there's lots of stuff to prove it 😄

[vital blaze]

I hope he makes it

[quasi holly]

watch till the end

[sterile lotus]

what’s up with multiplayer constantly freezing

[quasi holly]

and i couldnt rejoin the server

it just fucking disappeared

[vital blaze]

Oh

[stray basalt]

So what is the flag flying outside of the outposts?

[fading totem]

LOL

[midnight moon]

Its more near the border its based near the puget sound

[sudden ginkgo]

Thats normal

Perfectly normal

[fading totem]

That's what I thought lol XD

[fading totem]

It's near this outpost on the map

[vital blaze]

Wdym

[vital blaze]

How so

Do you live in western Washington

[stray basalt]

All other maps fly flags of the states/counties outside the outposts

Layton is the only one I can’t identify

[vital blaze]

I think it's broken or something

Isint it white

[midnight moon]

Yes

[sterile lotus]

first diamond axis deer 💪

[sterile lotus]

couple minutes later

[golden silo]

gg

[bold panther]

There is a pretty cool cave on this map, not sure if anyone has found it

[golden silo]

i don`t have this luck with bantengs

1 troll and 1 that i messed it up

[hidden stream]

one of my first bantengs was dia

ims orry

[bold panther]

Does it count as a troll if it's not diamond level?

[golden silo]

for me a troll is a diamond potential under 1 point of diamond

[hidden stream]

if the estimate says there is a reasonabke chance to be diamond then it is a troll

[bold panther]

oooh

[golden silo]

for the comunity is a max level animal that does not score diamond

[bold panther]

Nice banteng though

[hidden stream]

if it is not dia but hasa chance

[golden silo]

for me that banteng was pure anger

[hidden stream]

is my def

;D

[golden silo]

because it had 136-150

and it got 136

[hidden stream]

oof

[golden silo]

piece of shit

[hidden stream]

i ahd a like 486 - 551 roo and it was 488 or smth

[golden silo]

at least i have 2\2 level 9 crocs that are diamond

big boy and small boy

searching for a diamond quale

but nothing untill now

[terse grove]

OG MY GOD

first ever level 5 fallow FINALLY

[golden silo]

can be a troll

[terse grove]

i am aware

[golden silo]

posible but i think it will score 240-247

looks like the trolls rack

[terse grove]

yeah

sobs

going into the hall of shame!

how come this has a better score estimate than him LOL

[golden silo]

also troll

[terse grove]

crap i nonvitaled him anyway

[golden silo]

like 240-250,posible diamond but small chance

[terse grove]

ye

[golden silo]

lels

nasty troll

[terse grove]

thats not even a troll hes level 4

[golden silo]

for me is a troll

[terse grove]

but damn still close

[golden silo]

0,20 that is absolutly a troll

with low estimate of 136

[terse grove]

Trolls are max level ones that odnt reach

but i understand what ur saying yeah

[golden silo]

i know that,but for me animals this close to diamond are trolls

[sterile lotus]

i have

[manic owl]

Are two tone Javan Rusas rare?

[terse grove]

nnnno

[vivid cosmos]

Why are roos more aggressive than wolves?

[sudden ginkgo]

because they have an attitude

[uneven bloom]

...are they?

I've had a total of...five? Six? roos go aggro on me

[vivid cosmos]

They attack more often with less intensity

[uneven bloom]

Inchresting

[vivid cosmos]

Or maybe its the sheer numbers

[sudden ginkgo]

probably that too

youre more likely to encounter them

so thus you have more chances for one to wanna come over and punch your lights out

[vivid cosmos]

Well I’ve got a shotgun

[terse grove]

i have seen 2 go aggressive

[sudden ginkgo]

dome that 'roo then

[terse grove]

and i run around them all the time

[vivid cosmos]

According to indiana Jones gun beats melee

[sudden ginkgo]

first group i saw, i shot one and two went aggro

[terse grove]

LOL

well actually 3, one tried to kick my car

[sudden ginkgo]

hadnt even been on the map ten minutes and i already pissed off the locals

[terse grove]

welcome to australia

[uneven bloom]

oh first roo I aggro'd, I was just climing the lookout tower

[waxen pollen]

oh no a poor roo, whatever can I blow out its heart with

[uneven bloom]

he saw me.

[terse grove]

LOL

[sterile lotus]

i just quick scoped a quail out the air by accident

[sudden ginkgo]

also btw

crocs are a money printer

[sterile lotus]

ikr

[uneven bloom]

pre-nerf goose level?

[vivid cosmos]

I just went to emerald cost for the first time and i have already 4 kills

[sudden ginkgo]

not quite

but

they're just sleeping out in the open

and their senses dont seem to be that great

[uneven bloom]

...oh yeah. Has anyone checked out Acres yet?

[sudden ginkgo]

so you can just run the coast and dome every single one you see

[waxen pollen]

Croc sense are definitely not gator sense

[sterile lotus]

i shot my first diamond croc that way

[sudden ginkgo]

yeah i got a croc that weighed EXACTLY one (metric) ton doing that

i was

[terse grove]

i love them

they just go "im safe" but no

and theyre deaf or something too i swear

[woeful crane]

uhhh hey

[terse grove]

i shoot them and one 150m away doesnt care

[woeful crane]

what dlc should I buy?

[sudden ginkgo]

they need their ears checked

[woeful crane]

I got dog and atv alr

[sudden ginkgo]

#🦌︴general

[woeful crane]

oh mb

[terse grove]

no matter where i go...

i always end up back in the marshlands ..

CMERE CROCS

[sterile lotus]

i also got an albino sambar female

[vivid cosmos]

So far I like Australia a lot, it has a kind of vurhonga feel but it looks much prettier

[sterile lotus]

yup

Australia is so fun too

[surreal siren]

how do u get dimamonds

[wintry saddle]

Ive hunted quite a few crocie boys but no rares or lvl 9 lmao

[sterile lotus]

hunt on the coast at 12:00

2 or 3 runs you find something i promise

my 2nd run i found my diamond

[wintry saddle]

Alright thanks a lot

[sterile lotus]

you’re welcome

it may take more than that but you’ll figure it out

[fading gorge]

These no idea where these magpie geese falling. Maps lighting up but cant find em anywhere lol

[lean panther]

hi

[woven brook]

Anyone found a piebald magpie goose yet??

[coral eagle]

Is chocolate fur type on a fallow deer rare at all?

[fading gorge]

About 15min ago finally

[woven brook]

Damn I’ve been grinding all day still no luck

[woven brook]

Did u get a pic of it?

[fading gorge]

😢 I didnt as I didnt even look at the harvest screen as I was after golds for another mission. It popped up completed piebald so went to lodge so I could taxi it

I can go mount and get a pic if you want to see what they look like

[woven brook]

Yes please

If not a hassle

[fading gorge]

No worries just got last harvest

[woven brook]

Thank you 😊

[fading gorge]

If I knew was piebald wouldnt have shot it 3 times lol. It did this weird freeze in the air stop animation then kept flying so thought shotgun bugged switched to 22 and brought it down 🤣

[woven brook]

I just did that not long ago but with a common games bugging a lot atm

[fading gorge]

Had it happen to a couple magpies. Could see the blood spat from a hut but they stopped flying then just flew off. Also map shows a lot of HP from some that shot over water but nothing floated back

I was only after a mission gold so can go back to fallow now.

[woven brook]

I’m just after the piebald atm that’s the last of that mission I need

[fading gorge]

I have the photos to do I hate photo missions

Had everything in the good as gold mission bar fox and magpie so figured finish it

[woven brook]

Nice

I was grinding Roos yesterday today geese lol

[fading gorge]

Havent much hunted the roos yet. Finished map missions then went straight to fallow grinding

[woven brook]

I’m going through missions

These ones I’m currently working on

[fading gorge]

Map released my dumb ass sat and did entire main missions in the 1 go lol

I need leucistic one in the roos and gold with handgun. I thought I got that with the 454 on a cranky 7 but guess not

[woven brook]

I got an albino one but not leucistic

[fading gorge]

The banteng ones gonna be horrid to do

Take a pic of a mela at 50m

[woven brook]

I wish I had know when I had a glitched Hurd killed 8 in a row all glitched in the mangroves

[fading gorge]

Wish I knew the quail photo one on 1st day as I ran right up to 4 of them on the ground I could have stomped on 1. Was in VC saying to others I can stomp these quail they arent even flying off

[woven brook]

Lol 😂

[fading gorge]

Had to wait for em to take flight around me so I could shoot em.

[woven brook]

Yea hate that I was shooting at them till my boyfriend said they have to fly to shoot them

[fading gorge]

Lol know a few ppl messed up a good trophy due to grounded rule

[woven brook]

Yea lol

[fading gorge]

I hear their call and just speed rush the zone to get em airborne

[woven brook]

Yea I’ll get to them soon lol

[fading gorge]

My maps been rather lame for rares or worthwhile trophies so far.

Albino female fallow, Albino female stubble quail, pink male feral pig and that piebald magpie goose are the only trophies so far.

[quick grail]

Have a goat drink zone but waited quite a while (10m irl time) and no goats are appearing at it?

Nvm I see one female lol

Aaand she didn't stop to drink??

[fading gorge]

Goats wander as they drink moving slow. I have found them hundreds of metres from the actualk drinking zone slow walking and it says drinking lol

[quick grail]

Gah that's a pita

[little phoenix]

I just shot a diamond red deer

I kept thinking I'd ruin the shot

[blazing gust]

When I get home later, I'm going to for a hunt on EC to clear my mind. What species should I go after?

[cunning sierra]

NOOOO, i gut shot a Piebald Diamond Axis... had to hit him on the run and i botched the shot.

[stuck vortex]

That stinks…

[mighty dove]

Was it on SP or MP? Only take running shots when absolutely necessary

[cunning sierra]

SP

I had taken down 1 male and a female, then this majestic animal comes sprinting across...

lined it up since i had a wide open shot

gut him...

fml

https://steamcommunity.com/id/rhomen/screenshot/2020475676389670303/

https://steamcommunity.com/id/rhomen/screenshot/2020475676389669885/

T_T

[slim schooner]

Why so ded rn

[mighty dove]

It’s early morning for a lot of people

Plus work

[limber cliff]

Cos it's like 9am for half of us

And around 3pm for a bunch more of us

And a lot of us are at 7am too

Only the true monsters stay here all the time

[haughty storm]

Who you are you calling me monster? 👹☕ lol

[limber cliff]

W͆͏̳ȇ̢̐ ͧ̐̄҉̜̦̬k̶͚̎n̴̓͊ò͂w who we a̷̗ͣr͛̄̚e̔̑

[slim schooner]

12 am

fur me

[limber cliff]

Ah it's still early then

It's just turned 3 here

[lime kestrel]

at what time should i hunt kangaroos

[hollow ingot]

Clues you must find

[arctic pond]

How did u do that?

[limber cliff]

I'm lowkey a magician

[arctic pond]

No really

I want to know

[limber cliff]

I googled haha

[arctic pond]

What did u googled e exactly?

Oh

[slim schooner]

how do i screenshot

[lime kestrel]

F12

also is it only me or is it super hard to find kangaroo lol

[slim schooner]

it not work for me

[gleaming river]

Its u lol

[lime kestrel]

o k

what time should i hunt kangaroos even

im hunting at 8:00 rn

8:40 *

[honest trench]

They eat at 0-3am and honestly other than that throughout the day I just walk around and spot them

[tacit hamlet]

They drink 0-3

[slim schooner]

@hexed lichen HI

[silent radish]

Can Anyone Help Me Get My First Diamond

[slim schooner]

is hyperion scope worthit

[tacit hamlet]

Argus is better imo

[slim schooner]

i cant buy that

im lvl 9

[tacit hamlet]

It’s definitely better than the starter scope

[slim schooner]

yeah lol its ass

[low citrus]

0-3 is their drink time but you’ll find plenty of them in the bottom left area and near the rivers

[lime kestrel]

so not during the day???

[tacit hamlet]

As dark as it gets

[slim schooner]

anyone wanna play my emerald coast

?

@hexed lichen

[hexed lichen]

I'm playing the isle today sorry

[slim schooner]

isle of?

[hollow ingot]

mann

[slim schooner]

Im commiting a genocide

[verbal elk]

im playing emerald

server name viggo grimborn

[rare jacinth]

For the malamar 7mm magnum, Polymer-tiped bullets or soft-point bullets?

[uneven bloom]

Depends on what range you're taking shots at.

if within 100 meters and the animal gives you a good broadside shot, softpoint will drop them quick

any further/taking frontal shots, polymer

[rare jacinth]

Thank you

[noble pine]

Where abouts should you aim to take out a saltwater crocodile?

[rare jacinth]

The lungs are pretty big so basically just behind the head you should hit something vital

Then just wait for it to die in the water and claim it

[cobalt ingot]

could go for neck shots or lung shots
doesnt matter anymore since they dont sink

[regal vale]

.

[midnight moon]

the isle is a dinosaur survival game

[low citrus]

Path of Titans > The Isle
But that’s a conversation for #🦝︴off-topic

[cobalt ingot]

based

[slim schooner]

Cool

[tawdry nebula]

I love path of titans mechanics, BUT I really hate how you should work and do tasks to grow

[low citrus]

That’s why I play on community servers with boosted and/or passive growth

[tacit hamlet]

I always use polymer unless soft is the only option

[viral dirge]

Does anyone have a picture of a light brown croc?

[tacit hamlet]

This is a friend’s

[viral dirge]

Dannnggggg that's sick I couldn't find any pictures of it thank you

[shrewd kestrel]

Shooting a Kangaroo feels like shooting a pet

Poor Roos

[midnight moon]

not when its trying to break your neck

[shrewd kestrel]

True

[hidden stream]

#🦌︴find-a-game

[slim schooner]

shooting myself hurts tbh

so i not gonna do it

[topaz kestrel]

Who can stream some gameplay

[uneven bloom]

No one here. Rule F #📜︴rules

[topaz kestrel]

U can’t vc nd share screen?

[uneven bloom]

VC, yes. Screen share, no.

[topaz kestrel]

How do people find animals fast

[stiff leaf]

nah what the fuck thats stupid that i cant screenshare my own game for non-advertisement purposes

[limber stump]

The sanctuary animals don’t show up in multiplayer

[stiff leaf]

they did for me

[midnight moon]

i proclaim a skill issue

[limber stump]

Nooo

[wind ridge]

That's luck, your own rare pet 👌

[crimson sparrow]

when do gators rest

[limber stump]

I reset my map

Im going to do this till I get a super rare in one

[lime scarab]

Does anyone know if this woulda pushed diamond? I don't know how it's calculated but I messed up the shot sadly

[limber stump]

Are the sanctuary animals ones on you map

[crimson sparrow]

im pissed

[stuck tapir]

Diamond is 148.78 so no, it would not have been diamond

[lime scarab]

Ah alright

[feral ferry]

Hover the cursor over the trophy rating to view diamond requirement

[rancid pecan]

that lasts only one game launch unfortunately

[high oasis]

pissed? that's a really cool trophy

[crimson sparrow]

it was a troll

[wind ridge]

So we have to hope that this has enough interest from the community to be taken into account by EW xD
https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1121413487218933760

[kind minnow]

How can i use the "Damhirsch" in Rheinfelden?

there is a mission that says "kill two fallow deer and use them" but i dont know how to do that. can anyone help me with that? ❤️

and Hello to all ❤️ Good Hunting :)

[crimson sparrow]

Bro just flew by

[tough plover]

Hey I just shot a white fur type fallow deer how rare is that? I looked on the wiki and it wasn’t listed

[crimson sparrow]

uncommon I think

[tough plover]

Ok thanks

[golden silo]

i have zones from 8-12,12-16,16-20 and 4-8

[golden silo]

uncommon,chocolate is also uncommon

[crimson sparrow]

uyy

[golden silo]

east coast,best spot i have

if u hunt for salties

[fickle rose]

Is there melanistic hog deer?

[stuck tapir]

No

[low citrus]

I’ve been finding some pretty decent areas for magpie geese

[slate hound]

Man I absolutely suck at shooting saltwater crocs for some reason

[low citrus]

The .300 will give you 100% quick kill if you hit double lung

[slate hound]

I’m using the .338, I just keep aiming too far up the body

[low citrus]

The .338 surprisingly doesn’t get 100% quick kill with double lung

It gets at most 90% I’ve found

[slate hound]

Really? I was told the 338 was the highest power rifle outside of the .470

[proven portal]

it really should be

i think the devs just coded it wrong

[civic portal]

I still haven't found one zone for magpie. I see them resting and it doesn't give me any zones when I spot them

[low citrus]

Set up decoys for them

[slate hound]

What’s the best rifle for saltwater crocs? I have all DLC

[sleek crypt]

I use the 300 magnum for fun

Favorite animal on the new map??

[tacit hamlet]

338 imo

[tacit hamlet]

Croc

[sleek crypt]

I haven't hunted a lot because I've been trying to get all the outposts and lookout points

I only have like 20% more to explore

[slate hound]

I’ve been using that but apparently it’s not the strongest

[tacit hamlet]

Idk what’s stronger

[keen belfry]

7mm is my go to for crocs. Usually a single lung or neck shot is all I need

[cobalt ingot]

is there albino salty tho ?

[stuck tapir]

Yep

[cobalt ingot]

has anybody ever killed one ?

interested in seeing how it looks

[limber cliff]

there have been a couple posted in the gallery

[limber cliff]

#🦌︴trophies message

[cobalt ingot]

thanks

[left adder]

is the in saltie territory the end of the story line?

i cant find any more missions about it

that continue it on

[misty girder]

guys ı find a white turkey is this rare ?

[cobalt ingot]

dunno havent played the new DLC that much

[cobalt ingot]

whats the fur type

[brittle pumice]

depends if its light brown or leucistic

[wintry turtle]

DOES IT HAVE BROWN ON ITS BACK?

[misty girder]

ı killed and get the cash

but ı dont have any photo

[cobalt ingot]

u may have lost a good taxidermy there

[misty girder]

i will send any photo taken from internet

like this

[cobalt ingot]

dont be too fast on claiming creatures
they might be a rare skin or a diamond

[cobalt ingot]

hmm u should go ask in https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/491937867963170817 they might know what that is

[misty girder]

hm thanks

[stuck tapir]

If it looked exactly like that it's rare, if it had a brown tail and wings it's not rare

[misty girder]

okay tx

[stray basalt]

You guys ever think about where the rest of the parts of our trophies go?

[solid totem]

slaugher house

[cobalt ingot]

in some rich guys house

[brittle pumice]

ye thats leucistic thats a rare but a light brown which isntrare looks about the same with light brown on the tail van and wings

[cobalt ingot]

yikes

[solid totem]

should i get the rifle that costs 36 k?

like the one that has the "A gun with one bullet." amount of bullets

oh wait wrong chat 💀 (anyways)

[misty girder]

if u have money u can buy 7mm magnum

[solid totem]

that sounds like a handgun

[misty girder]

riffle

sniper

or 300 canning magnum

very good sniper

trust me

[carmine mason]

My house

[wanton steppe]

Anyone trying to play?

[fallow hare]

Where are feral pigs at? Trying to hunt them at night for "the feral problem" mission

[stuck tapir]

Everywhere except drybone plateau

[fallow hare]

Not seeing them at drink zones (cotw companion app says 0:00 - 3:00)

[fallow hare]

Oh interesting I will check that channel out. Thanks for the info.

[stuck tapir]

Np

[stray basalt]

https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1123062379425574942 opinions?

[earnest echo]

Surprised there’s nothing in the known issues about wolves getting stuck

[stray basalt]

Shhhhh🤫

[haughty storm]

🤬

[jade thicket]

i shot one earlier the same

🤣

goats do troll a bit

[haughty storm]

Woulda been a great hunt and win with the bow too lol

[naive path]

why is there ferral goat flippin everywhere

[jade nexus]

I'm 0/3 on feral goats

[tough plover]

DUDE

THE FREAKING AUSTRALIAN SPIDER MISSION STOLE MY PIEBALD

NOOOOO

[sage rover]

wowwww that's so unlucky hahahah

[finite wagon]

How

The sanctuary??

[tough plover]

It forced me into the black screen on my way to collect the piebald

[tough plover]

Yeah

[finite wagon]

💀💀💀💀

[tough plover]

Yeah I hate my life

[sharp jewel]

@haughty storm lol, gotta love them goat trolls I had one on my map that I knew was gonna troll just by the rating estimate but that's beside the point. Jaxy did say that animals will most likely troll a little bit more frequent when starting a new map but once you start to get your herds more established they should stop doing it as often and I have found that to be most likely accurate because I had 3 level 9 roos on my map at the beginning and since then I haven't seen any lvl 9s however I haven't hardcore hunted them like I did in the beginning.

Disclaimer: it won't completely stop the trolling from happening but it should at least lessen the chances a little bit.

[sharp jewel]

oof

[finite wagon]

You can probably still harvest it

[sharp jewel]

sucks to be you

[finite wagon]

Seeing that its singleplayer

[sharp jewel]

@finite wagon once you exit the game it rids the corpses that might still be laying around

[stuck tapir]

Go back and look for it

[finite wagon]

Damn

[stuck tapir]

The spider bite doesn't make you exit the game tho

[sharp jewel]

yeah ive thought about that before and im pretty certain it does do that but you can by all means go back and look

were talking about the guy who got black screened

[tough plover]

I already did

It was gone

[sharp jewel]

yeah thats what I thought

[ashen haven]

The other day I was watching either a flinter or lady legend video and they pulled up a em coast map with yellow and red dots representing fallow zones but I can’t find that video anymore. Does anybody know which video it’s from?

[low citrus]

LadyLegend

However, I’d instead use ProXCK’s hotspot maps

LadyLegend has gotten information wrong before and just straight up says things that aren’t true

[ashen haven]

Got it👍

[stone pine]

Hint for boats?

[tacit hamlet]

No. EW puts random stuff in all the time

[clever pawn]

I wish they could add in some small planes or smth, or just some Larger ATV's that could fit more than one person.

[zinc blaze]

Somewhere (I forgot) there's a stack of tires with physics

[west zephyr]

Trying to farm some Magpie with my spouse, and they keep alerting to something and flying off. No salties around, we are both in blinds. These damn birds.

[stone pine]

Yea not the planes but like a utv would be amazing

[carmine mason]

Welp

I’m starting

[stone pine]

There some guy in flinters stream claiming he got a female blonde croc I don’t know if there is any truth behind it becuase he is playing dumb and can’t figure discord out but if there is that’s pretty cool

[vital sinew]

Are light brown crocs rare?

[low citrus]

Yes

[glacial summit]

I mean green is more common but they probably sell them somewhere

I would say uncommon

[vital sinew]

Cool

[low citrus]

No they’re a rare

[vital sinew]

I thought it was a Leucistic, but I already got an albino

Ok I just wasn’t sure with how new the map is

[glacial summit]

I can confidently say last time I went shopping for crocs they didn't have any light brown

[low citrus]

Shit yourself tbh

[glacial summit]

tbh ik tired

im

[steep zinc]

Anyone know if theres mission animals for emerald coast

[uneven bloom]

There is not.

[worn lake]

What do you mean by mission animals

[stray basalt]

There totally should be though,they set us up twice for a mission animal,nothing

[midnight spoke]

Mission animals are animals you are given the opportunity to hunt through the missions of certain maps. Such as the Mocha moose on Te Awaroa, the wolves of Cuatro, and others.

[quartz lotus]

Moose on te awoara?

[stray basalt]

Yup

[topaz kestrel]

How do people find animals easily

[low citrus]

Drink zones

[quartz lotus]

What mission is it?

[stray basalt]

One of the last missions

[quartz lotus]

That's sick

[glacial summit]

eyes

[sudden ginkgo]

the mk1 eyeball

[wicked juniper]

I can’t finish this “In Saltie Territory” mission

[limber stump]

I’m going to reset my map until I find a GO in the sanctuary

[limber cliff]

Like click start new game?

[limber stump]

Leave the map it put new animals every time you leave and load back in

I have had some spawn outside the fence in the sanctuary

[limber cliff]

Gotcha

So reloading the game, basically

[limber stump]

Or just leave the map and hit back in

[limber cliff]

Yeah. Reloading. Lmao

[limber stump]

I found a glitch a while ago where you can shoot invalid targets it’s not that hard it doesn’t kill them it just shows the blood animations

[limber cliff]

Gonna make a photoshoot for it when it happens,

[limber stump]

Yes

[limber cliff]

What if you spawned fallow and red?

Simultaneously

[stray basalt]

I’d be pissed.

[limber cliff]

Like we all know it's a roulette game as to when It happens

[limber cliff]

Double pet GOs? I ain't even mad at that point

Just impressed with the sheer luck of that statistic

[limber stump]

That would be kind of sad but cool and if they spawned outside the fence I would push them with an Atv and show them the map

[limber cliff]

Lmao

[limber stump]

If that happened I would start grinding for a great one

[limber cliff]

"This is the outside world, Jedidiah. It's dangerous, which is why I created a perfect environment within the sanctuary"

[limber stump]

So far the best thing I found was an albino red deer level 4

[limber cliff]

"There's crazy, gun touting fanatics out here who shoot at everything that moves."

[limber stump]

HoW tO gEt A gReAt OnE wItHoUt GriDiNg No HaCks YoU cAn FoR sUrE kILl It

[candid owl]

I despise emerald coast with my entire being, yesterday I got trolled by an albino roo with a top estimate of 543, now today I find an albino male stubble quail and right before I shoot it descends… I hate emerald coast

[stone dew]

How's everyone's hunting on the new map? Anything exciting?

[sudden ginkgo]

A few days ago I got a croc that was a thousand kilos on the dot

sadly a troll

[stone dew]

chunky, but dammit.

I love the crocs and the roos when they attack

[sudden ginkgo]

Literally, exactly one metric ton

[sudden ginkgo]

Lol first group of roos I saw, I killed one and two of them went aggro

[stone dew]

ahhahha

[sudden ginkgo]

hadn’t even been on the map ten minutes and I already pissed off the locals

[stone dew]

have you tried the gators since they were fixed so they don't sink?

[sudden ginkgo]

Not yet

[candid owl]

The last two days I shot a troll albino roo and shot an albino stubble quail but it descended right before i shot 😭

[candid owl]

🥲

[stone dew]

I haven't seen any rare fur types yet

Haven't had much time to hunt. Currently going around to open up outposts and lookout towers

[waxen pollen]

literally me but then distracted by some weird fur pattern or mission objective

[stone dew]

[fickle pendant]

is there a diamond alligator

[stray basalt]

No🗿

[fickle pendant]

what about a crocodile

[stray basalt]

Nes🗿

There is a legendary croccogator though

[topaz aspen]

I had an easy time getting a diamond croc but cannot say the same for the roos

Those animals are evil

[fickle pendant]

where did you hunt crocs

can you show on map

[stray basalt]

Coast

[topaz aspen]

Right side and on top of The map

[fickle pendant]

where they in mangrove coast

[topaz aspen]

Yes

[fickle pendant]

ok

[topaz aspen]

In the mangroves yes

[vital blaze]

Female crocodile can be level 2 WHAT

HUH WHAT THE FUCK HOW

12.53 gold

[stray basalt]

ZONKERONIES

[languid wedge]

???

I'm guessing you've never seen lvl 8 female have you lol

[vital blaze]

Never

Have you

[languid wedge]

They're really hard to come by and are max for reds

In game no I've seen 7s

But I've seen a few 8s killed

Definitely worth keeping

[vital blaze]

Of female

[midnight moon]

I forgot how rare these things are

Cool trophy id mount it

[vital blaze]

I did

[midnight moon]

I had one just never mounted it

[vital blaze]

And a level 2 female crocodile

[vague gulch]

Anyone In here ps4 or ps5

?*

[midnight moon]

I'm on ps4 why

[languid wedge]

Yes

[languid wedge]

Looks like around 5k are

[midnight moon]

Yep

Honestly im feeling a bit burnt out on ec now

I might start my fallow grind

[vital blaze]

My voicemod just scared me lol

[midnight moon]

Lol

But honestly I might start a fallow grind and set up tents and stuff

[vital blaze]

It's not hard to GO grind on Australia it's finding spots that's hard

[vague gulch]

Kangaroos are a pain in the ass to kill sometimes 😭 I hate it sm

[midnight moon]

I was thinking about going on ec to grind fallow

Yeah they are

Their body shape is just awkward

And makes it difficult to shoot

[vague gulch]

Yea I agree

Billy I sent a dm

[vital blaze]

Just how rare are level 8 female fox

[noble pine]

Need some help here, I'm not too sure where I should place the shot and dont wanna mess it up for a mythical

[midnight moon]

I'll check it out in a bit

[midnight moon]

Aim behind the shoulder

Just slightly there

Dw Crocs aren't that hard to kill

[vital blaze]

Between the trees

[midnight moon]

If you penetrate at least one lung you should be good

If you have a .22 (not .22lr) you can alert it by shooting near it

[noble pine]

Only got a .338 (7-9 to kill it) and a .308 on me

[midnight moon]

.338 should work just fine

Just aim behind the shoulder and take the shot

That's your best bet unless you want to risk a neck shot then aim behind it's head

[noble pine]

Worked perfectly, I am curious how close it is to being a diamond, haven't had a diamond anything yet

[fickle pendant]

it still takes a really long time to kill with a double lung shot

I think using expand is just better for crocs

[noble pine]

Double lung + spine seems to be near instant death