🦡︴cotw-scotland

[lapis fractal]

yeah the lakes look familiar so idk

that mountian next to the tower looks new tho

[acoustic elbow]

that's definetely layton

[compact plover]

Actually the furthest south Widgeon migrate is east Africa. Gemsbok, Scrub Hare, and Springbok are not in East Africa. BUT since Lesser Kudu are on the map it is already impossible to be accurate . So you may as well put black tail on SRP, its far more likely than Lesser Kudu and Widgeon on the same map as Gemsbok, Springbok, and Scrub Hare.... may as well add Kangaroo to vurhonga next 🤣

[blazing turtle]

I see no lies, I bet ya their next African map will be somewhere in the jungles of Cameroon and boom: Sable Antelope

[compact plover]

Most probably

[midnight moon]

Africa was also the second map they released, so of course it won’t be as accurate as current releases as things get better over time. No need for them to keep repeating past mistakes to the extent that they used to

[long spade]

Hey guys, has anyone here heard of Africa's Tiny Ten? There's an antelope called a blue duiker, it's roughly the same size as a rabbit and weighs about eleven pounds. Honestly I'd rather have a unique mini-lope as the next African small game animal

[glad abyss]

They are repeating the same mistakes though

Eurasian widgeons just don't live there

[midnight moon]

I did look at where Eurasian wigeon migrate to, and I found sources saying they migrate as far as southern Africa

[glad abyss]

It would have been a good choice to do something like red billed teal

[compact plover]

https://images.app.goo.gl/KkQNGKXYnfE2vPt56 @midnight moon

[glad abyss]

all maps I found are either up to Eastern Africa or no Africa

This is from eBird

recorded observations

404k recorded observations not one in Southern Africa

[long spade]

Egyptian geese would be a good choice, they cover most of Africa

[glad abyss]

They would

or spur winged goose

[long spade]

I'm not a goose fan, but they would be a natural animal in the habitat

[midnight moon]

@glad abyss @compact plover there’s sources out there claiming to support both of our points it would seem

[glad abyss]

It says

Africa

It reaches eastern Africa

Vurhonga is not in eastern Africa

[midnight moon]

Southern Asia and Africa. Implying that the sourthern applies to both Asia and Africa

At least as per my interpretation

[glad abyss]

Interpretation does not matter in this case, animal populations are not a subjective thing

It's Southern Asia

which they migrate to

and Africa

[long spade]

Guys, it's birds in a video game . . . .

[glad abyss]

Yes but people seem to be claiming that it's a realistic choice

[compact plover]

Souther African waterfowl they "could" have used which would not call their dedication to accuracy into question.

Yellow-billed Duck, African Black Duck, Cape Shoveler, Mallard, Cape Teal, Hottentot Teal, Red-billed Teal, South African Shelduck, Comb Duck, Egyptian Goose, Spur-winged Goose, African Pygmy Goose.

[rocky goblet]

no man this is serious

[glad abyss]

I personally don't get removing Blacktail from SRP but not wigeon from Vurhonga

[midnight moon]

We aren’t yelling at each other? We just talking about it

[glad abyss]

Just a correction

Comb duck is the south american species

Africa has knob billed

they look the same

same genus

[rocky goblet]

penus?

[long spade]

Guinea fowl. that's it.

[glad abyss]

That's not waterfowl

and it would be a new model to do

[midnight moon]

The big problem with blacktail on SRP is that they don’t exist alongside mule deer naturally

[compact plover]

Drew that list directly from the Sappi page...

[glad abyss]

Widgeons don't either in South Africa

[glad abyss]

sappi?

[midnight moon]

Wigeons don’t exist alongside mule deer in Africa?

[glad abyss]

No, sorry

[rocky goblet]

man ur dumb

[glad abyss]

Wigeons don't exist in South Africa

period

[long spade]

Subspecies right? at least I think they're still accepted as a subspecies

[compact plover]

Yeah, the #1 field guide for birds in Southern Africa

[glad abyss]

Ah

maybe they categorize knob billed and comb as 1

it's a normal thing to do

[rocky goblet]

you’re a subspecies of this dick

[midnight moon]

Sorry, I didn’t really say what I meant. What I mean is that because blacktail are a subspecies of mule deer, they do not exist naturally alongside each other. Is there a species of duck in South Africa that wigeon wouldn’t be able to coexist with?

[rocky goblet]

son

[glad abyss]

Nah

[rocky goblet]

woodpecker

[glad abyss]

But wigeons just don't live there

it isn't their natural range

[sudden ginkgo]

You mind maybe being a little bit more respectful of your peers?

[midnight moon]

The devs could make a case that the reserve in which Vurhonga is based imported wigeon to the reserve

[rocky goblet]

im joking

but yes mam

[midnight moon]

And because it is naturally possible for them to exist there, it would be logical

Similar to the entirety of Parque

[glad abyss]

That would be pretty damn illegal XD

[rocky goblet]

what if the wigeons fly to africa

🤓

[long spade]

Some recent studies place Mule deer origin as recent as ten thousand years ago, they claim mules are the result of breeding between whitetail does and blacktail bucks. I mean, I don't get it but DNA is confusing stuff anyway

[glad abyss]

They do not reach South Africa

[midnight moon]

Oh I didn’t know it would be illegal, please elaborate?

[rocky goblet]

that’s just because they ran out of fuel

[glad abyss]

literally just releasing animals into the wild

They don't have air fences

[rocky goblet]

Elonk Musk

[midnight moon]

A lot of the recent studies show that blacktail are almost certainly a subspecies of mule deer

[rocky goblet]

they are

blacktail are a subspecies of mule deer

thats already a fact in the wikipedia

[midnight moon]

Yeah but if they created an environment that encouraged the ducks to stay due to a thriving environment it would be possible

[glad abyss]

No it wouldn't

[midnight moon]

Why not?

[glad abyss]

Ducks just don't work that way

[long spade]

honestly that makes much more sense to me just flat out, genetics also place elk as a more advanced red deer

[glad abyss]

?

[rocky goblet]

you’re so smart son

[long spade]

grant you i don't believe it

[midnight moon]

Why wouldn’t ducks work that way? Animals prefer environments that encourage their survival, I don’t see why ducks would differ.

[rocky goblet]

Because south africa dont have much food for them?

[glad abyss]

Cause if there's case of overpopulation food reserves would plummet and the ducks would have search other places to eat

it's also just that ducks fly

[midnight moon]

Ayo bro what

[compact plover]

@midnight moon yeah, all of them....

Its like saying Himalayan Tahr can exist next to Grizzly bear because they aren't subspecies.

Truth is the distance between the range of some species on the map, and the Widgeon is more than 1000 miles. Its a vast discrepancy. And for them to dig their heels in when the fix is extremely easy just shows that accuracy is not a priority.

[rocky goblet]

I would like it to be accurate but they’d have to make so many more species of bird

Which they do need

african bird species

[glad abyss]

Just 1 to replace wigeon?

IDK

african black duck?

easy to make

[rocky goblet]

No, like they’d need more to replicate the airborne wildlife in Africa

[midnight moon]

There are plenty of cases where non native animals are introduced and they end up thriving even more so than where they were native. Including many bird species

[glad abyss]

wigeons are not one of them though

[long spade]

To be honest, wideons aren't as interesting as egyptian geese to me

[rocky goblet]

amen

[midnight moon]

How do you know for certain?

[glad abyss]

We also already have wigeons

[glad abyss]

CAUSE WE WOULD SEE THE POPULATION ALREADY??

[midnight moon]

So because it hasn’t happened, therefore impossible?

[compact plover]

90% of their duck models are the same, with just minor tweaks and changes to the colour. BUT you get Mallard in Southern Africa, just add them instead.

[rocky goblet]

yes mam i will do

adding mallard rn

[compact plover]

True, but Widgeon are not one of those

[midnight moon]

The point of backfilling wasn’t to add brand new species to the game. It was to use already existing resources to make maps feel more alive

[rocky goblet]

medved needs to be more alive

[midnight moon]

Again, how are you certain of this?

[midnight moon]

They’re adding wolves and capercaillie to med Ved

[glad abyss]

Then why not do mallard?

[compact plover]

Because i live here, and there are never widgeon here, not once in written history

[long spade]

This is the biggest discussion I've seen on a discord

[midnight moon]

I’m not a dev so I don’t know why they make specific decisions. Maybe it is because mallard are going to be on 3 map already?

[rocky goblet]

the best map of all time was the snow map with reindeer in the hunter classic

[midnight moon]

I like discussions

[glad abyss]

Does that matter more than accuracy?

[midnight moon]

The best map of all time is Standoff from Black Ops 2

[glad abyss]

It's like putting IDK

[rocky goblet]

i like your sister

[glad abyss]

African pygmy geese

in North America

people would be outraged

[midnight moon]

My sister is 3 months old

[compact plover]

That would be a fair point if we did not already have turkey, whitetail, and red deer on far more maps

[rocky goblet]

Same

[midnight moon]

There wasn’t a very big pushback to Parque, and that map is almost entirely exotic species. Why?

[glad abyss]

Cause those actually exist in Argentina

[long spade]

on the subject of African Maps, anyone interested in a swamp/marshland map with hippos?

[midnight moon]

Those species are very popular and there is high demand for them, mallard not so much

[glad abyss]

There's fucking alpine ibex in Argentina

[rocky goblet]

i like em big i like em chunky

[midnight moon]

Exactly

[glad abyss]

I don't think they would do it cause pR iSsUeS

[glad abyss]

Exactly what?

wigeons aren't in south africa

[uneven bloom]

Hippos would actually work out

[glad abyss]

it makes no sense to compare them

[uneven bloom]

not as many restrictions on them, I don't think

[midnight moon]

Species can exist where they previously didn’t

[glad abyss]

SO WHAT?

[long spade]

they're massive, dangerous, unique, and also an invasive species

[glad abyss]

They use arguments of being accurate

on maps

[compact plover]

True, but no-one asked for anything on Vurhonga other than Greater Kudu, and Guinea Fowl. So they could yeet waterfowl from the plan for vurhonga and no one would care

[glad abyss]

during streams

[midnight moon]

SO WIGEON CAN EXIST IN SOUTH AFRICA EVEN THOUGH THEY DON’T CURRENTLY

[glad abyss]

then they do wigeons on vurhonga?

[midnight moon]

Why we yelling

[uneven bloom]

@glad abyss @midnight moon You two need to step back for a bit, I think

[glad abyss]

are we doing speculative range or actual proper hunting game?

[glad abyss]

no idea, accidentally pressed shift lock

[midnight moon]

Once again, the point of this round of backfills was to use current resources, not make new ones

[compact plover]

And Blacktail Can exist in SRP....

[uneven bloom]

Blacktail aren't going on SRP. That decision was revoked.

[midnight moon]

Respectfully, I think we are fine. Him and I are having a peaceful discussion from my perspective.

[midnight moon]

No, because mule deer already exist there

[glad abyss]

I don't get the point of not revoking wigeons from SA though

[glad abyss]

California destroyed RN

[compact plover]

I am not asking for black tail, i am making a point

[glad abyss]

California mule deer and Columbian blacktail coexist in Cali

[midnight moon]

Not in close proximity to each other

[glad abyss]

????

[compact plover]

So, i release 20 blacktail where Mule Deer exist and they just cease to exist?

[glad abyss]

They coexist

in the same area

[midnight moon]

That’s going a bit extreme

I mean it’s common knowledge that when a subspecies exists alongside the parent species the subspecies will slowly just revert to the parent species

[glad abyss]

but

uh

that doesn't make sense

a subspecies can't coexist with the parent species

it must coexist with another subspecies

an animal with subspecies cannot not be a subspecies

[compact plover]

Its exacly the same argument you are using for widgeon, infact less extreme.... since i would not have to wait 6 months for blacktail to migrate into America, then capture and transpot them 1000 miles to release them as would need to be done with widgeon

[midnight moon]

You could get the wigeon from anywhere and take them to Africa hypothetically

[uneven bloom]

Alright this discussion is just going in circles at this point

let's all agree to disagree and leave it at that

[glad abyss]

how is it going in circles?

[midnight moon]

Why can’t we discuss it?

We aren’t being disrespectful of nothing? And nothing else is happening right now?

I’m not trying to undermine your authority, just wondering why

[uneven bloom]

Because it's drifting into off-topic things, and people seem to be getting agitated.

People getting agitated usually results in things happening that further results in warns.

[glad abyss]

We aren't agitated?

[midnight moon]

Can we continue our discussion as long as it remains peaceful?

[glad abyss]

and how is it offtopic?

we're using examples to explain situations

[midnight moon]

I like how we turned the topic to Lyra

[sudden ginkgo]

If it doesn’t, we’ll have to step in.

[midnight moon]

Okay that’s fine

[compact plover]

Same with Blackdeer.

Truth is, if you are focusing on accuracy, you can;t have hypothetical scenarios in play, and if you are focusing on the hypothetical then accuracy can't be a thing.

Its either fact or fiction.

[long spade]

haven't the devs mentioned wanting the game to be mostly realistic? does it have to be a hundred percent?

[compact plover]

Thats usually what mods do, so doubt anyone would expect anything else 👌

[glad abyss]

It's not about a hundred percent

[sudden ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/óculos-escuro-exterminador-terminator-arnold-schwarzenegger-gif-14440790

[glad abyss]

but these thing are elementary

just search "eurasian wigeon"

go on a whatever article

find a range photo

done boom

I would have understood if it was like

debated stuff

like type d orcas

do we put them as subspecies or as ecotype in a game

[long spade]

then accept the duck and let it go. Rather have a rifle that's better for buffalo anyway

[glad abyss]

but these are very simple things

[midnight moon]

So what would be a waterfowl species already in game that isn’t on multiple maps that they could have added to Vurhonga?

[glad abyss]

That would have been accurate?

[midnight moon]

Yes

[glad abyss]

Only mallard I believe

but why do waterfowl at this point

[midnight moon]

Accurate according to current populations

[long spade]

a reskinned goose, to Egyptain goose

[glad abyss]

Do fallow deer

[compact plover]

Who cares that its on multiple maps? If they want to add an existing species to vurhonga, and don't want to make a new model, just use mallard.

[midnight moon]

I think every map should have some sort of waterfowl

[glad abyss]

Medved doesn't

again, just do a funny and put fallow deer

[midnight moon]

Plenty of people would care. I know I do. If there’s an opportunity to add an animal that is currently only on one map I would rather do that than add an animal that already exists on multiple

[glad abyss]

There's no opportunity that's the problem

[compact plover]

New England is already getting multiple species that are on multiple maps, so what is the difference? at least it would be accurate.

[glad abyss]

Technically 100% of the species are more or less the same

we already have bobcats

green winged teals are basically identical to eurasian teal

[midnight moon]

True, but my reasoning for believing that each map should have waterfowl is that most maps have a lot of water that is just empty space

[long spade]

Who is actually buying the New England map? out of the people here who's interested?

[midnight moon]

Med Ved does have some water, but not as much as others

[compact plover]

they can add Eurasian Widgeon to Medved then.

[midnight moon]

Me 100%

[glad abyss]

That

[uneven bloom]

I'm getting it

[hidden quest]

I’m buying it for sure

[midnight moon]

That’s not the point of this

[long spade]

I'm just worried it's going to be overly similar to hirsch, layton, or Revontuli

[midnight moon]

I’m not attempting to defend wigeon on Vurhonga because I love wigeon. I’m attempting to defend them because I believe it was their best option considering the resources they had available

[rocky goblet]

If it’s realistic to the appalachians in real life, then it will be absolutely beautiful

and so far from videos i’ve seen, it’s pretty realistic

from the river streams

to the steep rolling hills

[glad abyss]

IMO it would have been a better decision to put mallard in SA

[rocky goblet]

large rocks

fall colors

[glad abyss]

Just makes more sense

It doesn't matter if a species CAN exist there

Cause at this point

why not put wisent in yukon?

They could be released and thrive there

[midnight moon]

My disagreement with this is that it would be better, imo, to not use mallard as they are already present on several maps.

And are going to be present on yet another map after the update

[glad abyss]

some species just exist worldwide

[midnight moon]

Plus, mallard don’t have the same reasoning as other species do when it comes to presence on multiple maps

[glad abyss]

Same reasoning?

We're getting canada geese on another map

They're not backfilling animals that inhabit few reserves

[midnight moon]

Whitetail, moose, red deer are all very highly desired animals and thus presence on more maps is desirable. Mallards aren’t exactly a hot topic

[long spade]

I live in Tennessee, the Smokies, I know nothing about new england IRL. by and large I can't see many differences in it and layton

[glad abyss]

wigeons aren't either

[midnight moon]

And I would rather have a different species of goose being backfilled

[glad abyss]

It's not a different species

it's canada goose

[midnight moon]

Right, but they are currently only on one map where mallard Les are about to be on 3

[glad abyss]

same boring goose we have on 2 maps already

[midnight moon]

I know, I’m saying that I don’t agree with the backfilling of Canada geese. I would rather them use a different species

[glad abyss]

Yes but mallards actually make sense in vurhonga whereas wigeons do not

[rocky goblet]

New England has a very similar mountain range to the appalachians.

[compact plover]

In all honesty Vurhonga is my most hated map because of the inaccuracies, and to add widgeon will definitely not fix that problem, The map will just become more of a meme

[rocky goblet]

Its about the same

[glad abyss]

I would have done blacktail

Yukon is in Alaska I think

[midnight moon]

Well wigeon could theoretically live in Vurhonga

[rocky goblet]

And they’re trying to replicate it as the appalachians

[rancid pecan]

We need more greylag, not more canada goose
The greylags have some of the rarest rares in the game

[glad abyss]

and there's sitka blacktail in Alaska

[regal ferry]

Just curious: what inaccuracies are there?

[blazing turtle]

Based on this conversation so far I believe both Silver Ridge and Vurhonga should probably have been left out of the whole back-fill until they could have species that would actually fit

[blazing turtle]

Lesser Kudu on the same map as Springbok for one

[glad abyss]

sadly they don't reach Alaska

[compact plover]

Widgon could theoretically live on mars, does not mean they should

[midnight moon]

No they couldn’t

[regal ferry]

They don't live together irl?

[rocky goblet]

They do

[blazing turtle]

No they do not

[glad abyss]

Lesser Kudu live in Eastern Africa

[rancid pecan]

I mean in general
Do they reach in SRP? Cause if they do im teleporting in the feedback channel

[glad abyss]

Nope

[rancid pecan]

F

[rocky goblet]

Its an African map

[glad abyss]

They aren't very present if at all in North America

[rocky goblet]

Yes they are

There’s huge amounts of Springbok in the south

[midnight moon]

Are we talking about geese now?

[rocky goblet]

Massive amounts

[glad abyss]

Mate what?

i was talking about greylag XD

[rocky goblet]

A huge population of springbok in Texas

[regal ferry]

Oh wow, lesser kudu really live in a small area, never knew

[blazing turtle]

Texas does not count, there are probably more tigers there then in India

[regal ferry]

And same for springbok

[long spade]

Yeah, no knock on them but impala would have made way more sense

[rocky goblet]

Southern North America is loaded with Springbok, the entire mid south.

[compact plover]

The species that will never exist together being on the same map, the vegetation that never exists in areas it is placed on the map, animals inhabiting areas that they never would. Not gonna get into all the rest, it seriously annoys me like a video game map shouldn't

[rocky goblet]

You can even find them in Southern Colorado

[regal ferry]

Or perhaps Thomson Gazelle?

[rocky goblet]

Springbok live in the heart of Colorado too, you can find springbok just outside of Denver

And it snows like a mf in Denver

[glad abyss]

Fallow deer would have made more sense than lesser kudu

[blazing turtle]

If Vurhonga was an East African map then Thomson Gazelle is an animal I would of expected

[glad abyss]

they actually are in South Africa in some ranches from what IK

[long spade]

oh that's be really cool, but impala are as common in africa as whitetails are in the states

[midnight moon]

Texas is honestly a shining example of my argument

[glad abyss]

Texas actually has those animals though

South Africa does not

[regal ferry]

Yeah, I can understand now knowing where you would expect lesser kudu and springbok. It's a shame they didnt give africa the detail it deserves

[glad abyss]

That's the problem

[rocky goblet]

They may not be native, but they’ve been there for over a hundred years from Hunters transporting them for game animals.

[compact plover]

True... am due to do a fallow hunt next year.

[glad abyss]

Oh nice

[rocky goblet]

So they very much are there and striving in modern day

[midnight moon]

But it used to not. My point is that something can be possible even tho it hasn’t happened.

[regal ferry]

Agreed, but they are a bit the most standard antelope that exists imo XD

[long spade]

OH dude, eland would be awesome

[regal ferry]

Eland is my biggest hope for a africa II

[glad abyss]

But again, a wisent is possible in Colorado, it still hasn't happened yet, but why would people be angry if it was in Colorado?

[sudden ginkgo]

Alright, I am going to bring this conversation to an end. It’s been going in circles for a while and it’s getting toxic.

[glad abyss]

Toxic?

WTF

[rocky goblet]

But Texas is a global hot spot for hunters all over the world. Texas is a place many hunters go just for the hunting experience. therefor it is very much of a real hunting experience in real life, as it should be in a video game.

[midnight moon]

I agree with you

[rocky goblet]

Whether they were there 150 years ago or not, they are now and definitely recognized for it

[sudden ginkgo]

So let’s all agree to disagree and just stop.

[compact plover]

Maybe the definition changed.... 🤣

[glad abyss]

Xd

[midnight moon]

I guess so

[glad abyss]

Just looks like censorship at this point XD

[rocky goblet]

its debate though, nobodies insulted anyone yet.

[glad abyss]

If this is toxic I guess call of duty VC are literally radioactive materials

[long spade]

have you heard of the Tiny Ten? They would be epic small game for an African map

[regal ferry]

Yes! I forgot about them but they would be sick!

[rocky goblet]

Man i’m just super stoked about the new england map, its such an absolutely beautiful place in real life.

[regal ferry]

I would hate to have to get them with my bow, but still

[hidden quest]

he’s just been here long enough to know what can happen, and he wants to avoid that.

[midnight moon]

It is a shame that we can’t talk about this. I thought it was going well

[rocky goblet]

I’ve been all over the world but the appalachian mountains are some of the most beautiful places you could be on this planet. Millions and millions of years old.

[blazing turtle]

So did I

[long spade]

How?! blue duiker are rabbit sized, I'd go insane trying

[rocky goblet]

The appalachians i believe are the 3rd oldest mountain range in the world.

[glad abyss]

Anything can happen, costant prevention is just censorship

[rocky goblet]

And it was where native americans strived for centuries

[peak cedar]

Don't you live in the same area vurhonga is based? 🤣

[midnight moon]

Right? No name calling or anything. A lot of disagreement, but we were talking it over and hearing each other out

[regal ferry]

I got a cinnamon teal with a bow yesterday, its hard but doable, kinda.

[blazing turtle]

A rather civilized conversation as far as I am concerned

[compact plover]

We are not disagreeing, we are having a discussion. If everyone agreed about everything then there would be no need for discussions.

There was 1 misunderstand and it was resolved immediately without "Intervention"

[rocky goblet]

Arrow heads in the ground, stone structures made with rocks, native american campgrounds, carvings in rocks and old trees. And old railroads from early settlers.

[peak cedar]

It's not an argument until name calling is brought in 😅

[midnight moon]

I disagree that we aren’t disagreeing lol. (Not toxic just banter)

[rocky goblet]

You can find all sorts of old metal debri. Thing about it is America isnt old so the history can be found underneath your feet.

[long spade]

I can't hit mallards with a ten gauge, i wouldn't manage to hit one with a bow

[hidden quest]

To be fair to him, I thought I just saw a discussion going in circles, and… well this is the internet. I understand where he’s coming from is all.

[glad abyss]

Why does a discussion going in circles matter though?

People can't freely talk anymore?

[peak cedar]

facts lmao

[regal ferry]

Tbf, I needed like 4-5 attempts, having to wait for him to come back after each. But it's just a lot of practice

[compact plover]

100% Infact i lived in 3 of the places Vurhonga "Could" be. And have family living in East Africa... So yeah, i got this continent covered, LOL

[midnight moon]

Sometimes you have to circle back around to try to connect points

[sudden ginkgo]

Usually those circles form a spiral rather than just a circle

[peak cedar]

and yet they believe google over people like you 😛

[glad abyss]

So what?

again

people can't freely talk?

We're not harming anyone

[hidden quest]

idk, I just said that I can understand where Cashnip is coming from, I didn’t say I fully agreed with him.

[glad abyss]

What I noticed is that intervention caused more drama than the actual discussion

[midnight moon]

Trueeee

[glad abyss]

Understood, thank you for clearing that up

[long spade]

that's my issue tho, birds just don't interest me much. Small game animals are amazing though, I think it's down to where I grew up tho

[compact plover]

In all honesty i am of the opinion that they think Africa is a country, and all the animals on the continent are found everywhere. Honestly doubt google was used past "What animals do you find in Africa"

[sudden ginkgo]

Like, class 1/2?

[peak cedar]

Maybe that's how they thought blacktail on SRP would work 😅

[midnight moon]

Since a lot of people are here right now, I’d like to ask you to go take a peak at my recent suggestion in the feedback channel

[compact plover]

Did not consider that

[peak cedar]

I looked at it, and gave 👍

[midnight moon]

I truly think that is what happened

[blazing turtle]

That could explain a fair bit

[midnight moon]

Thank you!

[sudden ginkgo]

By the way, there is a change coming that will make it slightly less painful. Mtn lion drink time is getting adjusted to 00-03

[regal ferry]

I love hunting birds, but some more class 2 herbivores like the Musk deer would be really sick

[long spade]

yeah, jackrabbits and such, well them and the small predators. In my home town, practically no one bird hunts, rabbits squirrels and coyotes tho and everyones excited

[sudden ginkgo]

So at least you won’t have those jackwagons scaring off all your bears

[peak cedar]

unless they decided to come to their zones early

because that's a thing in cotw

[glad abyss]

It most likely is that

[uneven bloom]

I've only had that happen after changing times

[long spade]

Tiny Ten would be perfect for that, any of them really tho blue duikers are my favorite

[uneven bloom]

even then, rarely.

[glad abyss]

Was it even specified in what country Vurhonga is?

cause it looks like a mishmash of biomes at times

[midnight moon]

I’m aware of that and I welcome it with open arms. But that is solely for SRP. All maps with black bears would benefit from a home range reduction

[peak cedar]

Vurhonga imo doesn't even look like a map I'd hunt ducks on lmao

[midnight moon]

Africa

This is a joke

[regal ferry]

Yeah exactly, would love the duikers and the dikdik, and for other maps perhaps muntjak somewhere

[glad abyss]

lol

[peak cedar]

I'm convinced it was just "lets add it, for more content" rather than "people wanted this"

[compact plover]

The voice actor is Zimbabwean

[long spade]

would an English map with hog deer work?

[glad abyss]

Australia has hog deer

UK has

Chinese water deer, pere david and muntjack

[regal ferry]

Do they have them?

[glad abyss]

IDK which muntjac

[sudden ginkgo]

I can get behind an Australia map honestly

[long spade]

I'd love an Aus map

[regal ferry]

Chinese muntjak

[uneven bloom]

Australia is near the top of my want list

[midnight moon]

Could you get in front of it though?

[blazing turtle]

Reeve's Muntjac if I recall correctly

[compact plover]

Sorry, reply was meant for @glad abyss not @peak cedar

[peak cedar]

all good

[glad abyss]

Yes it's reeve

[long spade]

not as pretty as a dikdik tho

[glad abyss]

Yep but like the actual map

[sudden ginkgo]

no but I can try pushing if it’ll make you feel better

[glad abyss]

it's so confusing

also if it was zimbabwe IDK if scrub hare would make sense

[peak cedar]

Aussie map must have magpie geese

MUST

[regal ferry]

True, but I like the combi of fangs and antlers

[glad abyss]

Pink eared ducks>

[peak cedar]

Dinosaur geese >

[glad abyss]

weird fella

[peak cedar]

you can have both 😛

[long spade]

fair, they'd be awesome in the lodge

[regal ferry]

Handled a skull of one last week, they are really wacky

[long spade]

I feel bad for him

[glad abyss]

Nah, pretty sure the skin flaps are actually useful

for algae

[midnight moon]

What is that?

[peak cedar]

magpie

[glad abyss]

the false goose

[peak cedar]

the best goose >

they have them in classic, they're amazing

[glad abyss]

It's not even a goose

[midnight moon]

It looks cool

[long spade]

Crocs would work in Africa, but would they in Australia?

[compact plover]

Not officially, just working off the species, and the vegetation, and voice acting, its should be Zimbabwe / South Africa.

[glad abyss]

Would scrub hare make sense in that case though?

[peak cedar]

where did you find that?

[glad abyss]

Find?

[compact plover]

South Africa yes, Zimbabwe, no

[glad abyss]

It's just in Anseranatidae family

geese, swans and ducks are in anatidae

[rancid pecan]

Me when
Me when all birds are dinosaurs

[peak cedar]

I...okay

but they would still be a must have for the map I want

[limber cliff]

It's not wrong

[glad abyss]

Yes

[glad abyss]

Seems confusing

Do fever trees occur in South Africa?

[compact plover]

Extremely....

[rancid pecan]

It is not wrong yes
Birds are avian dinosaurs
What most people call "dinosaurs" are just the non-avian dinosaurs

Lol

[long spade]

I hope the next map is Australian, but other than Kangaroos and wallbies(essentially small game roos) I can't picture what should be on the map

[peak cedar]

I wasn't being super serious on that btw

[rancid pecan]

Ik lmao

[compact plover]

In the very north (Bordering Zimbabwe) and the very south east

[limber cliff]

Correct haha.
Birds are my favorite dinosaurs though

[glad abyss]

Interesting

[rancid pecan]

"When are we getting The hunter primal 2?"
"B1tch you already have it installed lmao, its called revontuli coast"

Lmfao

[limber cliff]

Capercaillie has entered the chat

[long spade]

i hate them so much, they keep ambushing me while I'm hunting other things

[midnight moon]

So what if for the next African map they market it as an exotic species reserve? This way they avoid what happened with Vurhonga?

[long spade]

that'd be cool

[tacit hamlet]

Wdym what happened with vurhonga?

[glad abyss]

Putting animals that don't exist in Southern Africa on a Southern Africa map

That's what happened with Vurhonga

[tacit hamlet]

Oh

[midnight moon]

Apparently a lot of Vurhongas species aren’t geographically sound

[glad abyss]

Lesser kudu being the prime example

[blazing turtle]

Followed by the Eurasian Wigeon

[tacit hamlet]

That doesn’t bother that me much tbh

[long spade]

I just thought, what if we had a texas map with the new gun being a tranquilizer? Capture extremely rare species alive for reintroduction to their home ranges. And carry a glock, because feral hogs are mean

[midnight moon]

Personally, not interested and also a little confused

[long spade]

Eh, if you played a cabela's game called dangerous hunts you had several missions to tranq tigers and sunbears in India

doesn't really work for CotW tho, I'd still like a texas map so I could hunt aoudad

[midnight moon]

I did play dangerous hunts. I think I played 2011 and 2013. I don’t remember that but it sounds fun for that type of game

[midnight moon]

Aoudad would be awesome in cotw. Another sheep/goat I would like to see is the Marco Polo sheep

Those things are awesome

[long spade]

i think it was 2013's, you put radio collars on the bears. pretty cool

[long spade]

jacobsen sheep look nuts, my spelling is wrong but it's a thing i swear

[midnight moon]

If you haven’t seen a Marco Polo sheep do yourself a favor and search them

[long spade]

A himalayan map with Tahr and marco polos would be wild

[midnight moon]

Are they the ones with 4 horns instead of 2?

[long spade]

yeah, it's a little freaky to be honest

[midnight moon]

A little bit, yeah

[long spade]

They could do a Hawaiian map, sheep, feral cattle, axis deer, hogs/goats, and mongooses(?)

[midnight moon]

Sounds pretty cool, and while technically it would be another US map, I think they vast change in geography would make it acceptable

[long spade]

I love the US, but we've got so many maps. a proper rainforest/jungle map would feel good. A little relief from tedium

[midnight moon]

Amen

[long spade]

Australia or south america would also work. Africa too. We're just a little saturated with foresty maps

[sudden ginkgo]

apparently hawaii has an axis deer problem (as in, too many of them), so that could be interesting

[long spade]

really? thought it was the mongoose they were worried about eating rare birds?

[sudden ginkgo]

that could also be a thing too

[blazing turtle]

Jungle Maps: We got Central Africa, we got the Yucatan in Mexico, we got Northern Australia and possibly Southeast Asia (Disclaimer: Info about legalized sport and recitational hunting in southeast Asia is limited and hard to find)

[blazing turtle]

One of the islands also has a population of Black-tailed Deer (Kaua'i Island apparently)

[sudden ginkgo]

yeah axis deer on hawaii have no natural predators

so you can see where that would go

[long spade]

yeah, i can see the issue. at least they taste good

[sudden ginkgo]

maybe importing a bunch of non-native deer to the island chain was not such a good idea

[long spade]

Humans are not known for making good choices

[stiff leaf]

im pretty sure we're known as the species who fucks the most things up

[long spade]

jungle, arctic, savana, or desert? What would feel better as a new map

Also i just learned western australia has a massive population of feral donkeys. Imagine that in the trophy room?

[blazing turtle]

And don't forget Feral Dromedary Camels

[long spade]

A running diamond piebald camel. I kinda like the mount idea

[blazing turtle]

or a multi-mount with 2 male camels fighting

[long spade]

lmao, yeah, two humps are better than one

I'm sure it'd be really fun to hunt them, but how many people would really hunt a donkey, feral cow, or camel? I suppose it's not that different from a feral goat, sheep, or pig tho

[gaunt fossil]

I only just saw the species list for New England. 15 species, 2 foxes even, and backfilling of other reserves. Exiting, I think.

[gentle kernel]

lol id be scary

[long spade]

Good map for hunting small predators i guess

Is bigfoot class 8 or 9?

[dapper lichen]

where is it?

[uneven bloom]

Pins

[dapper lichen]

Ring Neck Pheasant
Northern Bobwhite Quail
Eastern Wild Turkey
Golden Eye
Mallard
Green Wing Teal
Eastern Cottontail Rabbit
Common Raccoon
Coyote
Gray Fox
Red Fox
Bobcat
Whitetail deer
Black Bear
Moose

this is gonna be awesome

very much looking forward to buying that

bird hunting is gonna be so fun

[peak cedar]

hirsch better be the most epic map for pheasant, it's gotta live up to the potential

I wanna see them in those big empty fields 😄

[dapper lichen]

I need a better way to flush them than just whistling

[uneven bloom]

pointer dog 🙏🏼

[hard dome]

Interesting, my next objective is to kill a turkey with a .270

Because we love warcrimes

Sadly I lost connection on the last server of new England

Also I'm, wondering, since there are more roads in every new maps, will we have more different vehicles, and maybe custom for those (like mounted tripods or elevated roof)

Guess that would also be a dlc but I'd be interested

Cuz yeah walking is shit ngl

[dapper lichen]

how did you access new england?

[hard dome]

Wdym I just went in multiplayer

[uneven bloom]

The map isn't out yet.

[hard dome]

Oh ye

[uneven bloom]

No one should have access to it

[hard dome]

I wasn't talking about this map lol, but new maps in general

And yes mb

I said new England but didn't mean it

[uneven bloom]

yeah the wording of this had an implication

[hard dome]

Ikr stupid

Cuz I lost the exact name of the map (as it's translated in French for me) I was in so it came out randomly in my head

All I know is that I went on a map that weren't here the last time I played eh

Few months ago

[uneven bloom]

The most recent map with turkeys is Acres

[hard dome]

The one with gators?

[uneven bloom]

Ye

[hard dome]

Yep this one I meant

[hushed flicker]

whatz up all

[chrome turret]

So... i just watched thr great reavel stream from 10 days ago.. and dont have time to watch the next backlog episoide.. so i need to know will these new awsome skin options come to the traditional bows.. and will the arrows get skin touches too?

[long spade]

I'm wondering about the optics too

[low citrus]

As far as we know, it’ll only be the weapons themselves that will be able to be customized

It looks like scopes and ammo won’t have any customization

[chrome turret]

Ok.. i was asking as customized arrows have been a big ask on mine since i 1st played and im not a fan of the middle class arrow head and style.. and hate the fact it dosnt match my small game and big game arrows..

So what kind of options will the traditional bows get?

[low citrus]

Jaxy didn’t show off the traditional bows in the stream

[chrome turret]

Ok.. so no one knows yet.. its an inyerest to me as my faverate bow has snake skin.. so i was wondering if there will be other options similer to it on say the longbow.. or fur coverings etc..

[low citrus]

I doubt we’ll get any fur coverings and such

That would require additional model work

[chrome turret]

Im just realy hopping we get a Adder option from Rattlesnake.. as its more native to me and my novel work... 🥰

[long spade]

this is way out there, unlikely at best, but a pattern based on a gaboon viper would be incredible

[earnest stag]

the white moose from sweden would be a dope moose variation

[low citrus]

Well, because the 10mm is unethical for bison

I’ve done it myself, I know how it performs against them

[rocky goblet]

There’s a 10mm?

[stiff leaf]

glock

[dapper lichen]

would be very nice to see a bolt action shotgun

and squirrel hunting

[rocky goblet]

i thought glock was 9mm

[stiff leaf]

this glock happens to be 10mm

[low citrus]

Glocks come in many calibers

9mm, 40s&w, .380 auto, 10mm and .45 are just a few of these calibers

[rocky goblet]

I know but i’ve never heard of a 10mm glock

Or 10mm anything

I would expect them to implement the most popular glock, 9mm. Which is why i suggested it

But 10mm?

[low citrus]

10mm is more powerful

It’s enough to take down bears (which isn’t reflected in game unfortunately but whatever)

[languid wedge]

Eh it's not the best irl for bears anyway number of people has been killed trying to trust the power of a 10mm

[rocky goblet]

How?

[low citrus]

Wdym

[rocky goblet]

a 9mm can barely kill a human in a single round, how is it supposed to effectively kill a bear

[languid wedge]

9mm would just really piss off a bear

[rocky goblet]

Exactly

[languid wedge]

10mm is a lot bigger cal

[rocky goblet]

You use 9mm as defense in real life with the intention of putting multiple rounds into your target.

[languid wedge]

Ye

[rocky goblet]

I doubt you’d rather use a 9mm on a bear expecting to use multiple rounds when you can just get a proper 7mm rifle.

[languid wedge]

9mm ain't a hunting round unless it's smaller game in a carbine

[low citrus]

Why do you keep using 9mm as an example when we’re talking about 10mm

[languid wedge]

[rocky goblet]

Because it’s not that much bigger

[low citrus]

Size doesn’t necessarily equal power

[languid wedge]

10mm is on par with a 357

[rocky goblet]

Especially considered its a hand gun, it’s not going to be powerful

[midnight moon]

That’s what she said

[languid wedge]

Lot more powder and lead

[rocky goblet]

Doesn’t matter if its a massive round, its still a hand gun. Velocity and penetration isn’t there.

[low citrus]

It doesn’t matter what it’s fired out of

The gun doesn’t dictate the strength of the round

[rocky goblet]

Yes IT DOES

YES IT DOES

Its a massive difference

[midnight moon]

Just add more powder

[languid wedge]

See the energy difference

[rocky goblet]

Notice how hand gun ammunition like the 9mm are just large rounds with lots of gun powder yet they’re still not as effective as a smaller diameter rifle with less gunpowder.

[low citrus]

Because they’re entirely different rounds 💀

[languid wedge]

Top is 10mm bottom is 9mm

[low citrus]

9mm is very rounded compared to say a .30-06’s pointed tip

Even with less gunpowder the .30-06 will penetrate further because of its design

[rocky goblet]

Can we get another person in here who knows a thing or two about gets to back me up because this is astounding

[rocky goblet]

Because the barrel is 6 times as long

[languid wedge]

a longer barrel will cause a higher bullet velocity in which meaning more power

[rocky goblet]

Significantly more power, and range

and accuracy

[languid wedge]

Yes

More time for the energy behind the bullet from the powder to speed up the bullet

[midnight moon]

Put more holes into target, you’ll be fine

[languid wedge]

But going back to the original argument the 10 mm is a very much more powerful round than the 9mm it has more power and a heavier bullet if shot out of the same size barrel

[rocky goblet]

Biden says my 5.56 can blow the lungs out of a body

[languid wedge]

[low citrus]

Oh gotcha. I completely forgot about rifling lol

My bad

[languid wedge]

All good

But to come to a conclusion you both are right and you both are wrong about different things

[low citrus]

Call it a tie?

[languid wedge]

Sure

[midnight moon]

But just remember a 50bmg can fit into a 12gauge shotgun

[languid wedge]

Yes a 12ga slug is a .50 cal

[tough drift]

man imagine going out predator hunting and just straight up dying cause your sidearm wasn't powerful enough

[languid wedge]

A man in Utah happened like that

[tough drift]

embarrassing way to go out

[languid wedge]

A black bear charged him and attacked him after he shot it three times with a 10 mm

It what majorly sparked the debate about is 10 mm really a good bear defense round

My self would trust anything under .44 mag

[sudden ginkgo]

not as big of a difference as you'd think until you get to very long/short barrels. but yes, the design of the gun does influence the performance of the bullet once it exits the barrel

[languid wedge]

Hell that's the only reason the .500 mag exists is because of bear

[midnight moon]

.50AE ?

[languid wedge]

That's a 12.7mm round

[languid wedge]

I've honestly never heard of anyone using it for defense against bears it would be cool as hell to have a desert eagle in this game though

[sudden ginkgo]

some factors that are not being considered here:
-case length/diameter
-chamber pressure

heres an example:

[tough drift]

people who have the gall to go out bear hunting are either insanely brave or just dum dum

even a tree stand offers no solace in bear country

[sudden ginkgo]

you could have two rounds of equal bullet size, but if one has a longer case, it probably has more powder in it, and it will likely exit the muzzle at a higher velocity

[sudden ginkgo]

up to a certain point. beyond that point, the friction between the bullet and barrel exceeds the pressure of the gas behind it, which ends up slowing the bullet down. for instance, on 556, i think that length is somewhere around 24 inches

[midnight moon]

What about hollow points?

[languid wedge]

Yee

Most stuff 24in is almost the to long point

[stiff leaf]

lets say we are firing a 10mm from a pistol and a submachine gun
which one do you think has more power

[sudden ginkgo]

hollow point bullets expand upon impact, which reduces penetration (this is desirable in some scenarios, such as if you are a cop and you dont want to hit innocent civilians that might be behind the bad guy)

[tough drift]

I mean this could also be shot placement. No shot from any handgun is enough to kill a charging bear in the time it'll take to reach you and maul the ever living crap out of you. Unless you throw the hunting ethics book out the window and try to get limb, spine, and head shots.

[low citrus]

Technically speaking though, if the handgun had the same barrel length as the SMG wouldn’t it be just as powerful?

[stiff leaf]

Good Question

it should be the same

around the same*

[sudden ginkgo]

assuming the ammo used is identical, they should be very similar

[dapper lichen]

is there a remington 7400 equivalent in game?

[midnight moon]

Unless its not a semi auto

[low citrus]

Strap a 10” barrel extension onto a glock and I got myself a mf one handed rifle 💪💪

[stiff leaf]

do not the gun

[frail tendon]

until the barrel weight makes your wrist hurt

[sudden ginkgo]

no, but there are a few other semi-automatic rifles

[dapper lichen]

yea the m1 being one

[low citrus]

I don’t think you’re quite prepared for how much I will the gun

[frail tendon]

rifling

[stiff leaf]

I SAID
DO NOT THE GUN! INJURE MAY OCCUR

[sudden ginkgo]

rifling does not increase bullet velocity. what it does is impart a spin on the bullet to give it gyroscopic stability, increasing accuracy

[midnight moon]

May*

[dapper lichen]

are there any rifles that resemble the 7400 at all?

[low citrus]

The rewards outweigh the risks I will absolutely the gun and you can’t stop me

[dapper lichen]

like not even semi auto

just resemble it

[frail tendon]

smoothbore supremacy

[tough drift]

the physics of this is crazy.

[dapper lichen]

could pass as a 7400 if you squint

[sudden ginkgo]

also this is more of a topic for #🦌︴general now lmao

[long spade]

Not to start anything, but Browning used to make a BAR safari model chambered in .338 Magnum. a three shot semi-auto would be the ne king of buffalo rifles in Cotw

actually takin a break from CotW, jumping in DS3 with my gf

Dark Souls 3

happens

never played before actually

my gf says it's gonna make me rage

Mr.black pissed me off earlier

just got to that tree demon thing

[chrome turret]

@sudden ginkgo just saw your post about a 10mm not killing a bear.. i know very little about gun calibers.. but i accently killed a black bear recently with the 22 hornet.. when mistaken its arse for a turkey i was stalking.. one shot proved quickly fatal.. ive also killed a yukon grizzly instantly with 16gadge birdshot point blank in the face after it surprisrd me..

[sudden ginkgo]

that was not my post

[chrome turret]

Ive also killed a boar with birdshot in def with all 47 rounds to the balls.. took 3 steps before it fell dead from shock 🤣

[long spade]

can confirm, 22 hornet will kill red deer if you get in a hurry and mistake it the 30-06, just a single lung hit but it worked

[long spade]

a hunter named razor dobbs actually killed a cape buffalo and an elk with a 10mm handgun, it was on his show or something but i don't like the guy

killed the tree demon in one go and my gf said she was gonna break my thumbs

[chrome turret]

You mean like the populer bow hunter who kills pigions with explodive arrows..

[long spade]

I'm just saying I don't feel like he's the most ethical hunter

I hope we get like a .22 or .25 cal air rifle, for shooting rabbits/hares from blinds while you wait for bigger game

[chrome turret]

Year that would be cool.. uk hunting is mostly airguns and shotguns..

[split burrow]

Do we know how much longer till update yet?

[stiff leaf]

no

[long spade]

what animals are getting remodeled? I know of moose and red fox but I can't find a proper list

[languid wedge]

Whitetail aswell

[woeful kite]

Until someone giggles and shits

[low citrus]

😟

[long spade]

Took a break for some skyrim, gave me an idea. What y'all think of an ice age map? short faced bears and such?

[woeful kite]

Ayo

Giant sloth?
Sid the sloth becomes harvestable?

Manny and Diego?

[low citrus]

Instead of a prehistoric reserve added to COTW I want a theHunter Primal remaster

[frank perch]

We need a Amazon rainforest map b4 any of that

[long spade]

Oh we ain't gonna get it, but it's kinda a fun idea right?

[woeful kite]

Kamchatka peninsula map?

[frank perch]

I'm trying to get a Jaguar in my lodge

[low citrus]

There are no jaguars in this game

[long spade]

We get an Amazon map, I want tapir and capybara, brocket deer too.

[frank perch]

Yeah ik but if they added a jungle map

[low citrus]

We still wouldn’t get jaguars

To my knowledge all species of jaguar are endangered

[frank perch]

It's a videogame

[low citrus]

EW isn’t going to put endangered animals into a hunting game

[frank perch]

And no they're not endangered

[low citrus]

Just checked and jaguars are near threatened so they’re technically viable

[frank perch]

True

[low citrus]

Colour me surprised I thought they were far more endangered than that

[frank perch]

Lions have a vulnerable population and we are free to level them off a map

[low citrus]

The only reason lions were added was because Vurhonga got review bombed

[long spade]

That's why I'm hoping for hippos, that and hippos would absolutely require a heavier weapon than we currently have

[frank perch]

Exactly cuz vurhonga was lame without them

[low citrus]

I dont know I feel like the current class 9 rifles would do fine against them

[frank perch]

I think the 470 would be valid

[long spade]

well don't tell them that

the 470 would be the only reasonable weapon tho

[low citrus]

7mm and 9.3 might struggle a bit but .300, .338 and especially .470 could do just fine

[long spade]

.375 is the minimum caliber for hunting dangerous game in most parts of africa, thatr includes cape buffalo

the 7,300, and 338 would be fine with leopards and probably the lions, but the rest of the big five would be too tough

[frank perch]

That's probably because if you mess up the shot using a lower caliber you may have just killed yourself

[long spade]

yourself ,your guide, the trackers, the innocent villager collecting firewood days later

[frank perch]

The buffalo and it's crew gonna go on a murder spree

Strength in numbers

[long spade]

jim shockey actually had close friend killed by a buffalo, iirc he was hunting kudu in a heavy forest and a single old buffalo bull charged the group from behind and gored him to death. they get really mean, for very little reason

[frank perch]

I heard usually if they feel threatened they will go back to their herd then kill you with 30 others

[long spade]

Jim Shockey actually talked to the guide who was leading the hunt, on his show uncharted, they hadn't been hunting buffalo just walked past the herd. The bull broke away and charged them from a few hundred yards, no one had any idea it was coming until it hit them.

[frank perch]

Life of a buffalo eat grass and kill anything that comes in the way of that

[long spade]

Judging by the way they act in CotW, yep

[limber stump]

The last new horned/antlered was all the way back when te came out

[jaunty crown]

Facts

What are your guys opinion on the new inline muzzleloader?

[uneven bloom]

it's another 4-8 rifle 😒

[jaunty crown]

Meh true

I still thinks it's pretty good though

[lapis fractal]

if they were gonna add another 4-8 i at least would like it to be engraved lol

[coarse lintel]

Engravings could be a future gun customization thing

[inner swan]

👀

[coarse lintel]

Honestly that would be amazing

[uneven bloom]

so help me I will write an essay on why the 6.5 should become a 3-7 rifle

and I despise essays

[coarse lintel]

I'll write a whole essay on the entire weapon system xD

[inner swan]

I think they should make it a melee weapon

[uneven bloom]

adjfgsk;djk

[lapis fractal]

boomarangs 👀

[uneven bloom]

seriously though

[frank perch]

Going around with a lasso and knife like in red dead

[coarse lintel]

I mean 223 is basically a melee weapon

[uneven bloom]

the only 3-7 rifles we have are:
Solohkin, which doesn't have polymer ammo
.50 round ball ammo, which is NOT long-range

[inner swan]

We need pistol whipping..

I'd love to see the Mosin become more relevant

[ionic flicker]

I do wish we could have hunting knives in game…

[inner swan]

Wild boar knife hunts would be crazy

[coarse lintel]

I'd love to see more guns become relevant, especially for class 2, 3 and 7 to 9

[sudden ginkgo]

hits class 3 like a dump truck. it makes a few 3-gun loadouts surprisingly viable

[lapis fractal]

if heres already a glock and basically an m16 why not add a spas 12? people surprisingly actually hunt with them

[frank perch]

Throwing knife hunt COD style

[long spade]

I posted a thing in feedback, suggested the .270, 30-30, and 6.5 be moved to 3-7 class

[inner swan]

I just can't justify taking it out over the .243

[sudden ginkgo]

if a map has class 3 but not 2

[ionic flicker]

The amount of stealth you’d need. And the satisfaction of a successful kill. 😫

[sudden ginkgo]

like cuatro, for instance

or TA

especially TA since the feral goats are forkin tanks for their class

[inner swan]

Yeah that's the only situation I'd grab it for. Like for Cuatro

Ew. TA.

[coarse lintel]

22h use to be amazing after the AR update but then got nerfed when revontuli came out

[sudden ginkgo]

3-gun loadout: .22H, mosin, .300

one less gun in the inventory

[ionic flicker]

.308 is still my favorite 4-8 ngl…

[sudden ginkgo]

could potentially bring in a shotgun too

then you dont have to change loadouts ever

[inner swan]

It had its 15 seconds of fame. Those were good seconds 😛

[long spade]

we have too many 4-8 guns right now

[ionic flicker]

Fr

[sudden ginkgo]

lets just throw another one in for the fun of it! why the hell not?

[uneven bloom]

the saturation of 4-8 rifles is the one thing about the game I don't like

[lapis fractal]

youve got it all wrong obviously you need the 12ga o/u the .357 and the .45-70

smh

[frank perch]

To the point they had 2 guns share ammo

[inner swan]

Makes you wonder who's making the decisions on these new weapons 😛

[ionic flicker]

I want a legitimate rifle with a stand for steadiness.

[jaunty crown]

I'm sad I'm stuck with the 270. I'm constantly grinding for the 300.

[long spade]

But the lever guns are flat broken

[uneven bloom]

I'm also tired of people calling the 6.5 the worst weapon in the game

[inner swan]

Was not expecting another 4-8

[sudden ginkgo]

would a bipod be an acceptable compromise?

[lapis fractal]

it was a joke...

[coarse lintel]

6.5 is amazing, just poor class choices

[inner swan]

.375 ruger please. 7-9

[sudden ginkgo]

also i just unlocked the bipod on my knife.

[lapis fractal]

if there was any 4-8 gun on my list it would be a 30-40 krag

[long spade]

yes!

[ionic flicker]

Yes definitely

[lapis fractal]

1-2/ 1 and 2 would be a 17hmr

[frank perch]

+prone aim steadiness

[long spade]

we need the 9.3x62, 6-9 class

[sudden ginkgo]

what aim? 😂

[coarse lintel]

375 anything would be great, then they could slightly nerf 300 and make 300 work on class 6.

[ionic flicker]

We need a BFG.

[lapis fractal]

and 4-9 would be a 45-70 buffalo (45-70 buff 2ould be needed)

[frank perch]

It's a bipod

[sudden ginkgo]

on a frickin knife.

[lapis fractal]

we need this XD

[coarse lintel]

Or new ammo type for it like a 500 grain hard cast for classes 7 to 9

[long spade]

the .300 should sit between the 7mm and 338

[frank perch]

Class 4-8

[lapis fractal]

would 45-70 goverment work?

[sudden ginkgo]

honestly i kinda want them to make lions and buffalo more durable and also be more likely to go aggressive. then buff the .470 so it properly functions as a close-range "stopping rifle"

[coarse lintel]

As long as its powerful yes xD

[long spade]

.500 S&W lever action

[sudden ginkgo]

basically any class 7-9 rifle would still be able to kill them, but only the .470 would be able to stop them

[low citrus]

This image implies that I’m also capable of putting a scope onto a knife to increase its accuracy

[inner swan]

If SRP gets a new species.. what do we want?

[ionic flicker]

More Birds

[long spade]

coyote

[lapis fractal]

smol pred

[coarse lintel]

Coyotes could be fun. If resized and moved to class 3

[lapis fractal]

bobcats need to be class 2 change my mind

[sudden ginkgo]

bobcat

[ionic flicker]

I hate coyote hunting so much currently

[inner swan]

I'm surprised they didn't do tparmigan for Yukon.. it's their nation territorial bird :/

[inner swan]

coyotes would be cool

[low citrus]

Cape buffalo

[inner swan]

oooo are there bobs in colorado??

[sudden ginkgo]

BOBCAT

[inner swan]

haha

[uneven bloom]

you mean bawbkat?

[coarse lintel]

Bobcap!

[sudden ginkgo]

all over north america minus canada (where canada lynx exist instead)

[lapis fractal]

id be happy with crow lol

[uneven bloom]

...that being said, white-tailed ptarmigan would be nice

for either SRP or Layton

[ionic flicker]

There are mountain lions, bobcats, and cougars in Colorado

[low citrus]

SRP is set in Colorado correct?

[sudden ginkgo]

mtn lion and cougar are the same thing

[coarse lintel]

Yes

[inner swan]

We have bobcats here as well. I saw one last summer! We saw canada lynx as well. Not a big domestic cat fan but I love the wild ones

[uneven bloom]

I saw a bobcat in my back yard once

[low citrus]

My personal pick would be sage grouse I love the funny grouses

[uneven bloom]

2-3 years ago, I think

[lapis fractal]

i saw a gray fox in my backyard and neighborhood

[ionic flicker]

A bobcat is a lynx, not a mountain lion. Mountain lions are generally much bigger than bobcats.

[sudden ginkgo]

i did not say bobcat and cougar

[frank perch]

May seem like a stretch, but moose. Idk with a GO coming out it wouldn't be a bad decision business wise

[ionic flicker]

Ha just reread it, my bad. Yes I was making a joke about older women 😂

[sudden ginkgo]

Cougar is the actual name of the species. mtn lion is a regional name, as is "puma"

[inner swan]

Bobcat and Lynx both belong to the Lynx genus. They are different though. Lynx are larger for example

[sudden ginkgo]

the eurasian lynx is the largest of the four lynx species

[inner swan]

Love it. Would love to see Moose in SRP

[sudden ginkgo]

bobcat i believe is tied for the smallest

[ionic flicker]

Moose are an invasive species in Colorado, so I doubt they’d add it.

[frank perch]

It's the edge of their range irl too

[haughty storm]

Brown bears

[uneven bloom]

so are goats in New Zealand, but they're on Te Awaroa anyways

[coarse lintel]

Honestly I wonder if they are doing a new bobcat, will it be 45kgs like the Mexican bobcats are in-game?

[inner swan]

And they're already on 5 maps. So yeah I doubt it too

[sudden ginkgo]

wild hogs are also invasive species, funnily enough

[frank perch]

That's y it's perfect

[ionic flicker]

True

[inner swan]

Good point.

We have plenty of invasive species in the game already 😛

[sudden ginkgo]

yup

[ionic flicker]

They didn’t have many other options tbf 😅

[inner swan]

Coyotes are invasive here in BC

[sudden ginkgo]

plenty of exotic animals

axis deer in parque for example

typically native to south asia, not south america

[acoustic elbow]

Parque only has 2 native species

[ionic flicker]

There are also extremely few moose in Colorado, which is mainly why I don’t think they add it. They are considered invasive, but also very few.

[frank perch]

I always thought that was a great map idea but I figured BC would be too similar to layton

[sudden ginkgo]

btw just for reference: exotic =/= invasive.
exotic means non-native to the area, invasive means it has disrupted the local ecosystem in some way

[inner swan]

The spcies list would be, but seeing the species list for NE means anything is possible 😛

The Canada version of that species list could have been even better

[haughty storm]

Prairie dogs or marmots

[inner swan]

Blacktail and Rosies for a 2nd map for example

[frank perch]

Adding moose to SRP would make a great map even greater jus saying

[sudden ginkgo]

high-key i wanna see canada lynx on some map at some point

[acoustic elbow]

I want to see doves on Parque

[long spade]

What about grouse or jackrabbits?

[ionic flicker]

They could make an Iowa map. Fox, whitetail deer, rabbits, turkeys, pheasants, cows, pigs, horses, corn, soybeans, tractors, and most importantly, a singular mountain lion.

[coarse lintel]

Honestly would love pheasants in srp

[inner swan]

Tbh I was shocked after seeing the species list for NE that they didn't choose Canada.. Blacktail, Roosevelt Elk, Canada Lynx..

[uneven bloom]

I think many people are sick of NA maps rn

[haughty storm]

Iowa 🙄

[sudden ginkgo]

the birds fly upside down in iowa

[frank perch]

Not dissing your idea but I wouldn't buy it. It's not dynamic enough

[sudden ginkgo]

nothing worth dropping one on

😂

[ionic flicker]

I wouldn’t buy it either don’t worry

[uneven bloom]

as much as I'd love to see an Arctic Canada map (for the Arctic foxes and snow geese, mostly)

[long spade]

We need something less common, a jungle or arctic map

[inner swan]

Need a Brooklyn map

[frank perch]

Rosies on yukon

[inner swan]

Definitely

[ionic flicker]

Some serious rat, pigeon, and cockroach hunting

[haughty storm]

Indonesia, komodo dragons

[inner swan]

lmao

[long spade]

pigeons with a slingshot huh?

[sudden ginkgo]

have a good luck kitty

[ionic flicker]

Nahhhh we are taking a shotgun 😂

[frank perch]

They add a pellet gun

[inner swan]

photoshopped

[ionic flicker]

Pistols would be the most accurate

[haughty storm]

Alligators in the sewers

[long spade]

a .22 airgun?

[sudden ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/m8-gif-3544460

[frank perch]

Na a airsoft gun

[ionic flicker]

In all seriousness, why do we not have a BB gun?

[uneven bloom]

I love this gif

[haughty storm]

Good one 👍

[inner swan]

https://tenor.com/view/paul-rudd-gif-10458160

[sudden ginkgo]

R.I.P. embed

[inner swan]

I'll see myself out

[sudden ginkgo]

lmao

[acoustic elbow]

Skill issue

[sudden ginkgo]

i believe the actual correct term is "LOFT"

[long spade]

anybody up for a 2-4 class rifle? a .22-250 maybe?

[ionic flicker]

Laughing on flour tacos?

[sudden ginkgo]

"Lack Of Freakin Talent"

[coarse lintel]

Not until they buff 223

[ionic flicker]

Hmm

[frank perch]

Hear me out Crocs on vurhonga

[lapis fractal]

hear ME out

new free map

[frank perch]

Ohio

[uneven bloom]

CURSED

[long spade]

i have no hope on a .223 buff

[uneven bloom]

CURSED, I TELL YOU

[coarse lintel]

Ahhhh that's worse then any cursed gun images I've seen xD

[lapis fractal]

or australia/africa 2.0

[sudden ginkgo]

some jack posted that in the off-topic chat a while ago and it was too cursed to not share 🤣

[long spade]

HARD AGREE YOU HEATHEN

[long spade]

to be clear, I agree with you and i'm calling him the heathen

[uneven bloom]

I stg sometimes I want to reach through the laptop screen and strangle each and every one of you, and other times I'm laughing too hard to breathe

rn it's a bit of both

[inner swan]

Nile Crocs on Africa 2.0. and Greater Kudus. I don't think either would work in Vurhonga 🤓

[frank perch]

Africa 2.0 is going to need giraffes hippos, elephants, Crocs, or something dynamic like that

[coarse lintel]

Same, which is why I don't want to see another 1 to 2 or 2 to 4 rifle ever again. Because they'll just base it around it. Now a 2 to 6 25-06 would be awesome

[uneven bloom]

elephants wouldn't be too smart of a PR move. Hippos, however, yes.

and you forgot the leopards

[frank perch]

Because I hate Mississippi I got a diamond gator and never played it again

[long spade]

honestly that sounds better, the .223 bolt is useless

[lapis fractal]

3 words helmeted. guinea. fowl

[sudden ginkgo]

more lynx mayhaps?

[long spade]

Why not impala on Vurhonga? It would've made so much sense

[uneven bloom]

if we ever get a Japan map:

pheasant, mint-flavored

[lapis fractal]

for once go for something other than cats loll

[sudden ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/no-no-no-no-no-no-rajabets-rajagif-gif-22769322

[coarse lintel]

Now I want it xD

[long spade]

See? That's why japan is awesome. THEY HAVE MINT BIRDS

[frank perch]

Looks funny, perfect for someone's saeska lodge to compliment their GO moose

[sudden ginkgo]

you seem very comminted to that idea

[uneven bloom]

also it'd be a shoe-in for sika deer map #2

[sudden ginkgo]

i'll show myself the door

[uneven bloom]

lol

[long spade]

we could maybe get Serows on Japan map