27.599 lvl 9
#š¦ļø“great-ones
rigid forge
amber rune
I wish
proud garden
After today I feel like playing the lotto lmao
amber rune
I really do
proud garden
rigid forge
H O L Y
proud garden
uh yea....
amber rune
should combined them smh my head
high heath
average texas ranch
proud garden
fresh map no repawns btw
rigid forge
if only they were the same animal
dense magnet
That's like my GO spawning next to my beeno
high heath
*if only they were the same animal*
that aint happenin and you know it
wise crane
@rigid forge If you find a mela diamond and you don't get him with the recurve I'll be EXTREMELY disappointed
dense magnet
That's the only reason I can annoy him so plz dont
rigid forge
<@432042647968940043> If you find a mela diamond and you don't get him with the ...
intentionally fucks it up so it's no longer a diamond
LOOPHOLE
high heath
lol! so funny!
dense magnet
*intentionally fucks it up so it's no longer a diamond*
it's max score and weight
strong thorn
I found the trophy shot
proud garden
Or reset your game like lady until you make sure the shot was good lol
amber rune
I found the trophy shot
lvl 2 mela š³
rigid forge
I found the trophy shot
nice kitty
high heath
I found the trophy shot
strong thorn
Old as hell and absolutely lucky since I didn't actually hunted lynx
amber rune
doesnāt look like a name to me lol
wouldāve thought it was just a random gamer tag
rigid forge
the photoshoot couple
proud garden
FIRE
rigid forge
got these in separate photoshoots a few weeks apart
high heath
the photoshoot couple
its the lvl 8 and the lvl 9 :troll:
rigid forge
its the lvl 8 and the lvl 9 :troll:
ah yes, because female lynx can make lvl 9
||(they cant btw)||
high heath
*ah yes, because female lynx can make lvl 9*
||(they cant btw)||
no, its two males š
amber rune
donāt discriminate
unkempt parcel
I found the trophy shot
golden sage
?
unkempt parcel
the photoshoot couple
That photo is like legendary xD
ionic anchor
Pissed af just lost a diamond bc of a heard of elkš®āšØš®āšØ
abstract atlas
How much did he score
abstract atlas
No biggie bro
There will be more
Now what i would hate myself for ia screwing up 270s red deer
full cave
im getting a diamond spawn every 100 kills like...you could set your watch to it.
abstract atlas
When i began grinding i thought lvl 9s red deer are gonna be rare-ish
And here we are getting them every 100 kills
full cave
yea its pretty crazy
rigid forge
And here we are getting them every 100 kills
how many diamond red deer do you have?
abstract atlas
Its a Simple list
abstract atlas
Im a new category
i forgot to count the stuff on GO no. 2,3,4,5
they were low kill GOs expect the #4 and #5
but lets count the diamonds i have written so 135+21+8+8+13=185 [the +13 is this current grind]
abstract atlas
That aint me bruv
full cave
jesus
abstract atlas
But i would say i definetly have 200+ diamonds
rigid forge
That aint me bruv
nah, this is you
abstract atlas
And no super rare
full cave
also...13,000 kills for GO 1? wth happened there?
rigid forge
also...13,000 kills for GO 1? wth happened there?
vivid topped that a week or so ago
14k
abstract atlas
I dont know bro, we got unlucky both
full cave
id have given up long before that.
full cave
this is true. you have far more self control than i do.
rigid forge
I dont know bro, we got unlucky both
this is you
this is the guy she told you not to worry about.
full cave
i have been playing cotw for a number of years...never did a grind. just never interested me. got into it about a month ago and i have a new respect for people who do it.
i think ill be good with 1 of each lol.
abstract atlas
i just set myself a goal of 20 GOs by the end of 2022
rigid forge
i think ill be good with 1 of each lol.
have fun with the smol predators
full cave
these wolves are a pain.
full cave
although i did slaughter 2 diamond wolves. guessing they were inits.
abstract atlas
https://tenor.com/view/stop-it-get-some-help-gif-15058124
Shush, its not even a year since the first WT GO
rigid forge
Shush, its not even a year since the first WT GO
full cave
lol
abstract atlas
š³
full cave
i actually like grinding. it suits my brain way more than i thought. im just ready to move on to a different species already and im only 600 in.
i WONT be going to 13,000 thats for sure.
full cave
cotw can keep its GO if it thinks im grinding that many red deer.
i might have to do some linx hunting.
rigid forge
o @abstract atlas ?
abstract atlas
Hmm
full cave
although...i might hold off on making a cash type lodge
abstract atlas
diamond lynx
Would be neat with the piebald female
rigid forge
although...i might hold off on making a cash type lodge
i am sane, i promise.
abstract atlas
Hes as sane as me
abstract atlas
oh you have you just dont count
full cave
i spent 300 hours doing a spawn study before i started grinding so i could come up with an optimum method. literally killed an animal and checked every single zone for the spawn.
abstract atlas
TWENTY EIGHT
full cave
when youre obsessed...youre obsessed.
rigid forge
50,000 red deer used to live here, now it's a ghost map.
rigid forge
so yeah that whole project, you're gonna have to un-learn it for the lynx
they basically just respawn wherever they please
abstract atlas
Jeeesus
full cave
i had posted it here but picsoul said no thanks lol.
rigid forge
also here, have the funni number weight bobcat
full cave
im down cash. ill have the perfect lynx grind down in no time.
full cave
also here, have the funni number weight bobcat
smh
abstract atlas
69 woooah
abstract atlas
Get a 69.69 animal
full cave
with the 42.....
rigid forge
closest i will get to the 42069 on a lynx or bobcat
i know of someone who has gotten a 420.69kg elk once
abstract atlas
U could get a moose like that too hmmm
full cave
i just DM'd you the write up LC.
full cave
youre a grinder so it would be cool to see what your thoughts are.
no worries if you have no interest though.
rigid forge
a 12.12kg lynx
full cave
do you have all of these screenshots collaged on your wall?
abstract atlas
I dont
rigid forge
do you have all of these screenshots collaged on your wall?
i would need all 4 walls of a costco warehouse to do that
full cave
i have no doubt about that
abstract atlas
youre a grinder so it would be cool to see what your thoughts are.
I have to download reddit because apparently grinding is 18+ content
full cave
lmfao. im sure some forms are.
rigid forge
kat
full cave
not to worry. im not overly pushing it. just a little project for myself - thought it would be cool for people to read if they wanted.
rigid forge
@abstract atlas challenge for ya: do this
abstract atlas
I have dat
full cave
i might be the only person in the world who likes spring creek more than saseka
abstract atlas
I like it more too lol
rigid forge
I have dat
recurve bow?
full cave
just wish it was bigger
abstract atlas
abstract atlas
recurve bow?
F that i aint good with it
rigid forge
full cave
sheesh. look at all those racks.
rigid forge
BLEP
abstract atlas
You killer
rigid forge
You killer
excuse you.
abstract atlas
I do not know what you are talking about
rigid forge
I do not know what you are talking about
hidden pagoda
still at it, eh?
abstract atlas
ofcourse bro
hidden pagoda
I just fucking hip fired a doe from 150m and almost fucked up a zone LMAO
It dropped immediately too
abstract atlas
Absolutely destroyed her
abstract atlas
Big lvl 2 there
abstract atlas
#15
#16 - same run as #15
One of the nicest albinos i have
definetly a tax on this one
BRO wtf
are my spawns
#17
patent plinth
What is your GO-count these days?
abstract atlas
14 GOs - 9 Red Deer and 5 Whitetail
amber rune
Doesnāt surprise me with those spawns lol
plain raptor
I dreamt that I got my second red GO
abstract atlas
I dreamt that I got my second red GO
Its a sign
visual kestrel
isnt that a great one?
hidden pagoda
Beeg pie
abstract atlas
Finally a gold rare
visual kestrel
mans grinding on layton š
hidden pagoda
hidden pagoda
mans grinding on layton š
18,100+ kills. I like it more than rancho because zones actually stay in place lmao
visual kestrel
Fair, also nice wt
hidden pagoda
Thanks lol
visual kestrel
ima try to find a dia Feral goat
amber rune
mans grinding on layton š
one of the best maps to grind on currently lmao
visual kestrel
First feral goat i ever spotted 100% troll lvl 5
hidden pagoda
And another dia lol
amber rune
And another dia lol
you over 100 whitetail diamonds now?
hidden pagoda
you over 100 whitetail diamonds now?
At 140 actually lol
hidden pagoda
how many G1ās?
5ā¦ so far
full cave
isnt that a great one?
Thought it was dia only but yes it go
high heath
@abstract atlas how tf u get so many red deer
high heath
NO WAY
SAM GN,AESDGNAKJG
OH M,Y GOD
GIANT
huge mythical albino
well that was cool
raw ether
huge mythical albino
high heath
<:EWNil:950226833297776651>
shut yo
full cave
Nicely done!
pliant oak
ooo would love a mythical albino
full cave
Damnit hit skull with .300 and it scored bronze.. - blank in about a minute
high heath
I did not expect that to show up today
visual kestrel
make it lvl 9.
velvet bough
Its a sign
unless your me then its a sign the grind will be even longer
tbh i kinda low key started grinding on mississippi acres and i kinda like it
rigid forge
A motivational kitty
visual kestrel
that looks so UGLY
velvet bough
im hunting geese rn tho to get more tents
high heath
that looks so UGLY
you wont live any longer
rigid forge
that looks so UGLY
! ban @visual kestrel THOU HATH COMMITTED BLASPHEMY OF THE HIGHEST ORDER
visual kestrel
#AlbinoBobcatBad
rigid forge
thatās a bobcat you dum dum
velvet bough
execute order 66
rigid forge
THIS is an albino lynx
full cave
THIS is an albino lynx
kitty
visual kestrel
looks nicer
rigid forge
execute order 66
high heath
THIS is an albino lynx
kinda ugly
visual kestrel
hides under my desk
full cave
~~kinda ugly~~
fat too
velvet bough
pooowerrrrrrr!!
visual kestrel
My custom status ^^
high heath
@rigid forge so, after the great one, would you like me to get an albino bobcat?
visual kestrel
If u torture me with that I swear to god
rigid forge
<@432042647968940043> so, after the great one, would you like me to get an albin...
yes.
high heath
giant
high heath
i have yet to see a guaranteed diamond red deer for myself
visual kestrel
Oof
raw ether
Iāll shoot him later tho this te hasnāt been hunted for red deer yet
high heath
Iāll shoot him later tho this te hasnāt been hunted for red deer yet
i cant tell if ur on the Pc account or the console one or whatever
raw ether
Pc
visual kestrel
?
full cave
Whatās considered a big diamond for reds?
raw ether
you better not get a great one
š¤·āāļø who knows
visual kestrel
260+?
full cave
GOs are usually in the 275 range right?
high heath
GOs are usually in the 275 range right?
They range anywhere from under diamond barely to 280s
high heath
raw ether
Iām praying I find a sub diamond GO on here so I can mess it up
high heath
Cause Iām determined to find out if it really is gold or silver
well you better KNOW that its under diamond
otherwise youve messed up a great one for no reason
full cave
Thatās nutty!
visual kestrel
Im starting to like red deer go a bit
full cave
I wonder how that happens. The weight is still 240+
high heath
im convinced its impossible for GOs to be under max diamond weight
visual kestrel
if i find a guarnteed under 251 red deer go, i will fuck it up
high heath
i wont
raw ether
I will for sure
full cave
Well yea. Weight determines level. Has to be over 240 to get fabled.
plain raptor
241 Fabled 
full cave
It also determines trophy rating to a point. Basically it sets the limits on the size of the rack but thatās a big shift. More than I thought.
Iām sure itās possible @plain raptor
Super rare 241 weight sub diamond GO.
unkempt parcel
Does anyone have a screenshot of a red deer Great One that reached 280?
high heath
Does anyone have a screenshot of a red deer Great One that reached 280?
heres one
high heath
no clue
raw ether
If I do find a sub 251 GO how should I screw it up
unkempt parcel
heres one
No F*ckin way!!! That's monster!! And it's 3 points above 280!! You got the screenshot of the hit info screen of that by any chance?
high heath
If I do find a sub 251 GO how should I screw it up
same way i screwed up my great one
visual kestrel
If I do find a sub 251 GO how should I screw it up
every way possible
high heath
brainshot with slugs at 4 meters
visual kestrel
3 times birdshot then skull shot then intestines
raw ether
I may just have to go for a non vital idk cause I donāt have any 7-9 guns yet
visual kestrel
22LR
high heath
(very realistic offer)
visual kestrel
yes
hoary oasis
If I do find a sub 251 GO how should I screw it up
470
raw ether
im just done
high heath
fuckin
round kiln
lol
high heath
HOW
full cave
Thatās ridiculous
high heath
are they both initial spawns?
visual kestrel
Die.
abstract atlas
im so done š¤£
Are you schupid
visual kestrel
why cant it be smol
unkempt parcel
Iām praying I find a sub diamond GO on here so I can mess it up
Well, that's the irony, that's gonna be a sub diamond xD
high heath
(it wasnt)
raw ether
unkempt parcel
Almost
unkempt parcel
People posting a screenshot of a Great One harvest screen without it being taxidermy gives me anxiety
abstract atlas
Lmao
abstract atlas
People posting a screenshot of a Great One harvest screen without it being taxid...
Dont worry
rigid forge
im so done š¤£
how the frick
raw ether
how the frick
ikr
full cave
@plain raptor 241 š¤£
high heath
People posting a screenshot of a Great One harvest screen without it being taxid...
Im gonna accept mine
without taxing
full cave
Save it and just leave it in the saved list. Thatās boss.
velvet bough
pretty sure one of you guys kill one every day in here at this point
visual kestrel
Old pic but, you are probably wondering how I got here
high heath
The Anger Dogā¢ļø
unkempt parcel
Im gonna accept mine
Bruh
raw ether
Ha im not alone!
high heath
smol
abstract atlas
Yo D
high heath
now i hope i get a great one today
visual kestrel
"hope"
high heath
even tho i got that lvl 8 albino
abstract atlas
Whaa
abstract atlas
Whaat it was crab claws too
abstract atlas
Score is as some lvl 9s btw
visual kestrel
my big dia red deer is 266
full cave
Someone said the other day they either get a GO in less than 500 kills or over 1500 kills. Iām at 600. Doesnāt look good itās coming anytime soon.
abstract atlas
my big dia red deer is 266
Mine biggest dia is 270.40 šæ
high heath
i might be approaching 700 kills now
abstract atlas
Someone said the other day they either get a GO in less than 500 kills or over 1...
Im at 2440 lmao
full cave
Lol. Iām terrified Iām going to be in that 13000 range you had.
abstract atlas
Or 14k
velvet bough
still waiting for my first one
dont think thats gonna happen
ddont know how you guys spawn them like they arent rare
high heath
i dont
velvet bough
seems like everyone here does i see like 2 posted here every day
from the same group of people
full cave
Thatās because they are killing 500-1000 deer a day
pliant oak
some people grind a lot every day most of the serial grinders do anyways
full cave
A scale I canāt even come close to.
high heath
i cant manage to get more than 15 deer per run
velvet bough
some people grind a lot every day most of the serial grinders do anyways
well i did but that diddnt do shit for me obviously
velvet bough
Thatās because they are killing 500-1000 deer a day
i used to do that
full cave
I am getting 25-30ish a rotation blank.
But I hunt 90% of my zones. Takes me 2 time resets to finish the rotation
pliant oak
25 - 40 reds is what most will get with a avg routine
what i used to get on cuatro then grind until a diamond that day
rinse repeat
full cave
Getting faster though so Iām doing in 1 reset every so often. Depends on how good my shots are. I claim everything.
high heath
i havent gotten a diamond in 3 days
pliant oak
yeah its a aim doesnt mean it happens every day
high heath
true
pliant oak
basically i try and kill 150 of whatever species per day on a grind min
velvet bough
the past like 10 runs on my te awaroa havent spawned a diamond or rare
full cave
Blank Iām going to dm@you something. See what you think and give it a try. Iām getting a diamond every 100 kills like clockwork on cuatro.
velvet bough
you generally get a diamond then
yea the diamondds arent fun anymore tho for red deer or whitetail
high heath
gtg for lunch will try out later
full cave
My 5th came at 540 kills then my 6th at 590. 140 kills between is my biggest span.
velvet bough
they dont seem to have any kind of value anymore its sad
pliant oak
i got a diamond whitetail earlier wasnt going to taxi but still did lol
velvet bough
i used to get really excited for diamond wt and red deer
wish they would add something in between great ones and diamonds to actually bridge the gap
pliant oak
My 5th came at 540 kills then my 6th at 590. 140 kills between is my biggest spa...
my last grind started out well slow 500kills roughly to get first diamond
velvet bough
because it seems you are either shooting endless diamondds that mean nothing to get one great one
visual kestrel
wish they would add something in between great ones and diamonds to actually bri...
stupid ones
pliant oak
then it sorta averaged out
velvet bough
stupid ones
wddym
velvet bough
a below dia great one, looks stupid and is more common.
what?
velvet bough
o another red deer great one that i wont ever get
lmao
maybe they purposely made some game accounts that cant spawn one
on purpose
or purposely significantly redduce spawn rates for some accounts that are made for certain species who knows
velvet bough
iddk they said its all random for the hunter classic but its not look at the mission system and the competitions as soon as you activate one your spawns turn to shit and people have proved that the game purposely does that
and coming from the same devs so iddk
pliant oak
iddk they said its all random for the hunter classic but its not look at the mis...
classic is random so is call of the wild a lot of classic is in cotw
missions can bring animals in
velvet bough
missions can bring animals in
can
but its much more rare
its been proven by god knowss how many people who tested it
pliant oak
i played classic since day 1
velvet bough
to turn on missions on purpose and hunt that species and their spawns for that species drop dramatically
yea so have i
thats why i dont do missions
pliant oak
many people like them
velvet bough
not anymore cuz it makes it harder
velvet bough
well it must be easy to talk from a high chair when you alreaddy have 5+ or more great ones
like everyone else in here basicially
pliant oak
no one is talking from a high chair we just have fun and talk in here
often lots of crazy shizzle
but generally fun and we grind
velvet bough
well all of you guys who say its "random" get good spawns i dont
dense magnet
well it must be easy to talk from a high chair when you alreaddy have 5+ or more...
I only have 1 GO
velvet bough
i dont even spawn great ones except for the 2 wt GO on rancho when it first came out
pliant oak
you have to remember some of us when grinding are playing 8 - 10 hrs a day
velvet bough
you have to remember some of us when grinding are playing 8 - 10 hrs a day
yeah? i used to too if not more most of the time i was doing about 12 hours or more sometimes up to 16
now i actually have a real job so
velvet bough
but u aint working 10 hour shifts then coming home and grining 10 hours thats bullshit
velvet bough
if you ddo the job you got isnt very tiring lol
pliant oak
if you want to know im up at 6 often from sleep at 2am
then full job and videoing in between
then cookin dinner looking after my kids
so yes we do it
just gotta manage time
velvet bough
so sleep doesnt seem very important to you then lol
pliant oak
i dont sleep much never have
velvet bough
the job i work i could be killed an in instant from one mistake so i have to have rest
pliant oak
i done work like that
my dad owned a scrap yard
lots of shit happens
but its what is it
some people can function on little sleep
its down to the person
anyways hope you have better luck
š
right dinner cooked eaten now to make a video š¤£
velvet bough
i work with heavy industrial lathes bandsaws etc. im not risking my sleep to possibly get crushed into a machine lol
i also ddont wanna grindd so hard that i ruin cotw for me again
velvet bough
anyways hope you have better luck
thanks tho i appreciate it
i think just coming here and seeing GO being postedd out the ass by the same people still messes with my head a bit
considering the rediculous waste of hours i put into it that i couldve put into something else
full cave
Machiniac how many kills do you usually get a diamond to pop up?
Are you killing all males?
velvet bough
Machiniac how many kills do you usually get a diamond to pop up?
i basicially quit grinding dudde i hadd enough after what i did
andd the same average as everyone else 100-150 kills andd only males
full cave
Ahhh got it. Yea the grind gets rough. Iām only at 600 and feeling it already
pliant oak
i work with heavy industrial lathes bandsaws etc. im not risking my sleep to pos...
when i left school i went into wood machining used lathes and the rest every day. loved the lathes but not hitting notches
velvet bough
when i left school i went into wood machining used lathes and the rest every day...
mine is for heavy high tensile and 4140 steel for oil field subs, swedges, 30 foot long pipes etc
pliant oak
ahh cool never did metal lathes
but we would probably be cutting up what you make in the yard with the gas gun š
velvet bough
idk but im getting so tired of resetting time rn
velvet bough
yea i cant do that anymore man
pliant oak
give yourself a goal
dense magnet
Yea and don't only grind something
velvet bough
nothing fun about it for me im gonna go unlock some more outposts from where i restarted
pliant oak
so i would give myself a goal of 150 kills per day min. then hope to get a diamond in that 150
if not i know one will most likely come soon
or double in a run
dense magnet
I just grind until I get bored lol
pliant oak
when you get a troll or a diamond just think like you a step closer to a great one
dense magnet
Ye
full cave
is it a good idea to stream go grinds or make videos on them?
high heath
i have returned
dense magnet
Hi
velvet bough
when you get a troll or a diamond just think like you a step closer to a great o...
unless you have 130 diamond wt with only 2 GO
or 40 diamond red deer with no GO red deer
dense magnet
unless you have 130 diamond wt with only 2 GO
Better than 1 GO
velvet bough
Better than 1 GO
how many have you shot
velvet bough
exactly
dense magnet
Sometimes you get super unlucky
velvet bough
i just died after driving 1.8 miles to get to an outpost so im just debating about getting off this game
dense magnet
Oof
pliant oak
just try to be positive and just right it off as a bad day or hunt
velvet bough
i just wanna hunt something other than great ones rn
but i gotta unlock the outposts
dense magnet
I had to go through at least 800 kills to start getting diamond red deer
pliant oak
id hunt species you wouldnt normally hunt
dense magnet
Well you can start building up your cash to get the 300
velvet bough
well i was doing that then i bought tents to put on MA
high heath
.300 is my best friend for shooting these red deer
velvet bough
thats what i used to use
high heath
dropping them is pretty dang easy
velvet bough
i got a migraine too because my medicine is messedd up
and driving on this fourwheeler is so boring
dense magnet
Hopefully diamond number 5
full cave
Hopefully diamond number 5
Im saying 253
dense magnet
Im saying 253
Close
pliant oak
great run on the whitetail today
one diamond earlier one just now and spotted another 3
haha not even grinding ...š
full cave
Thatās that CC luck everyone talks about
velvet bough
well i did get this guy
patent plinth
14 GOs - 9 Red Deer and 5 Whitetail
Impressive! š
velvet bough
And a rack I've never seen on a mythical before
dont think that rack spawns very often tbh
full cave
Thatās a red deer in mule deer cosplay.
raven bison
dont think that rack spawns very often tbh
iv seen 4 of them like that on an 8
velvet bough
iv seen 4 of them like that on an 8
yea i see them here and there but not alot
raven bison
now what i havent seen but have seen is 2 mythicals back to back albino
high heath
And a rack I've never seen on a mythical before
s p i d e r
somber turret
And a rack I've never seen on a mythical before
It is a kinda rare one imo
I love it
amber rune
And a rack I've never seen on a mythical before
Iāve shot 1200 reds and Iāve seen it 10 or so times
would be cool on a rare
velvet bough
multi
high heath
did not realize you were blitzhunts until now with the name change on discord
velvet bough
did not realize you were blitzhunts until now with the name change on discord
lmao yea
its from where i quit YT
full cave
i think i used to watch some of your content lol. thats really cool.
i used to watch anything cotw i could find.
and blitzhunts sounds really familiar
velvet bough
i think i used to watch some of your content lol. thats really cool.
lmao yea, i stopped at 1.12k cuz i neededd to work and make money and dont have time to edit and record plus i neededd a fresh start to the game
full cave
here we go.
high heath
big troll
full cave
def troll
full cave
yuge
high heath
giant estimate too
full cave
you called it. 240.4
high heath
š¦
somber turret
lmao yea
Holy shit I didn't know it was you this is amazing I was really wondering what happened to you cuz I went looking for your server one day and it was gone then I went looking for you in here and found that you left a server and then went to your YouTube channel and seen you ain't posted anything a while and didn't know what happened that was a long time ago I'm happy to know it's you and your back
high heath
LC with the goofy ahh profile picture
velvet bough
Holy shit I didn't know it was you this is amazing I was really wondering what h...
yeah i mean it diddnt wanna take off cuz i couldnt get great ones or anything worthy of really watching anymore lol, was way too slow of a grind and my parents were pressuring me to find work and all that crap
and they woulddnt make me a CC because their application system was being reworked, i probly wouldd have joined with mel and pro XCK
but as soon as i quit thats when they acceptedd them in so i was like are you fucking serious? lol
somber turret
Yeah it was a low score
rigid forge
meowdy
high heath
actually its not replaced, its gone
rigid forge
decent
somber turret
yeah i mean it diddnt wanna take off cuz i couldnt get great ones or anything wo...
Ay that's understandable I'm just glad you're back around to chat with at least and you still play it would have been cool if you got accepted as a content creator a lot earlier though
amber rune
actually its not replaced, its gone
what even goes into choosing what gets displayed here
high heath
no clue
velvet bough
Ay that's understandable I'm just glad you're back around to chat with at least ...
yeah probly wouldve helped it take off way faster, at the same time tho i wouldnt be able to chase my job of being a machinist
andd i cant spawn great ones so im not gonna be watched as much lol
somber turret
Yeah it took me like four and a half months and 5,000 animals and you had a lot harder time with the bug ones
velvet bough
well i hadd one buggedd GO
fair wind
Same
full cave
you stopped too caven?
fair wind
No
full cave
oh ok.
velvet bough
pretty sure even you have more GO than me lol
full cave
nicely done. i used to jump on your vids when they popped up in jaxy's discord.
fair wind
pretty sure even you have more GO than me lol
I have 5 now
velvet bough
I have 5 now
im still stuck with the 2 i got many months ago
cant get a huddle or GO red
fair wind
Ah ripp, my first go red didnāt take long at all
velvet bough
even tho between the two ive shot around 200 diamonds
fair wind
A ton of diamonds
somber turret
Jesus
velvet bough
yea it diddnt even matter for me
full cave
keep grinding man. this is when you start streaming it.
you'll get a bazillion people watching you and pulling for you.
what did lady have? like 1000 viewers when she located her GO?
everyone was pulling for her because she was struggling to get one
somber turret
I've been really tempted on working on and possibly trying to make guide videos
velvet bough
yeah but shes like the only girl creator in the community so its already unique that she streams the game and i used to stream all the time but im not doing it anymore i refuse
full cave
i mean im not sure it had to do with her being female. maybe, i dunno? i know i watched and followed that story because she was grinding hard and one of the last CCs to get one.
she was trying whatever she could to spawn one
velvet bough
i mean im not sure it had to do with her being female. maybe, i dunno? i know i ...
all algorithims that have anything to do with google work that way but she does deserve it its not just for being female lmao
full cave
i was ecstatic when she found it. i was probably more excited then if it was my own GO lol
velvet bough
she also has 6 GO reds and idk about whitetail so that also helps
hidden pagoda
all algorithims that have anything to do with google work that way but she does ...
eh thereās a lot of clickbait that she uses too that definitely helps her
velvet bough
eh thereās a lot of clickbait that she uses too that definitely helps her
all youtubers have to use clickbait
but not extreme
hidden pagoda
Well herās is a bitā¦ extra. Same with DD
velvet bough
i was just about to say DD lmaoo
hidden pagoda
And she milked the fuck out of the whole grim schtick
full cave
i feel like DD does it to troll people
velvet bough
well thats not why she did it
anyone that has any good findings like that she tries to get them on and explain
hidden pagoda
i feel like DD does it to troll people
Definitely lol
velvet bough
like the guy who found a way to get more rares (which is something that further proved my theory about how rares spawn on a map
full cave
anyone that has any good findings like that she tries to get them on and explain
this is my favorite thing about her content.
i love the interviews she does
somber turret
And she milked the fuck out of the whole grim schtick
The screwing up the great one thing was just stupid all the way around after I watched it
velvet bough
yea she ddoes those interview type vidds all the time i like it alot
somber turret
Well wrong message to reply to but yeah
hidden pagoda
I think any YouTuber that share their āfindingsā need to explain that itās just a theory. I call all of it bogus lmao
shoot deer, shit respawns
hidden pagoda
kill more deer in a given amount of time? More things to respawn is all it boils down to lmao
full cave
i think grim was on to something to a point. i mean he definitely simplified the concepts. and that was helpful to a lot of people.
hidden pagoda
āDonāt take this with a grain of saltā means take it seriously, Iām correct and I know it lmao
somber turret
It sucked all that happened with grim and him stopping talking
full cave
i think there is a much deeper spawn system than he realized though.
velvet bough
lmao thats not what he meant sonic. i was friends with him for a good while and he stated that was his theory
well yeah he was like the first one with more than 1 or 2 GO
and kinda began the whole grinding stuff cuz he shot so many
hidden pagoda
i think grim was on to something to a point. i mean he definitely simplified the...
I canāt deny that, he definitely pointed out things that people never realized but also brought in a lot of false stuff that people took as fact and ran with it
somber turret
Yeah his messages pinned with him being the first one to get the huddle
velvet bough
but thats why he said dont take it seriously its just what works for him but then you all argued with him and he left the COTW community all together for goodd reason
cuz some people here are toxic
hidden pagoda
thatās fair
velvet bough
ladylegend even explained on her video at the beginning of them that its a theory
hidden pagoda
and also interrupted him like 97 times lol
full cave
well in his defense - he didnt know it was false. its what he believed to be the case. cant really fault him for it, but i will say - being new to grinding - you really have to scrutinize people's theories and what they put out there. lots of people using the eye test, not many actually conducting studies.
velvet bough
he was very poorly treatedd because he was wrong on some things
sick lantern
š§
full cave
i did that study and put it out a few days ago, but i realized really fast...there is a lot of stuff out there as "fact" that is just not right.
hidden pagoda
well in his defense - he didnt know it was false. its what he believed to be the...
And that first sentence is why I dislike any theory that anyone brings out without definitive proof that it works. Because even with disclaimers people will yoink it without context and run
velvet bough
the truth is, even if you know EXACTLY how to spawn a great one, the games algorithim to bring balance to population will always set you back at some point
so the best thing you can do is try to spawn a bunch of diamonds
full cave
and im not saying mine is completely right. i didnt mine code - nor will i - to see how it works. but i did actually study and conduct analytic testing so im about as confident in my work as one could be.
hidden pagoda
I could say right now that diamonds decrease your chance for one to spawn and people would believe me, thatās all Iām saying
velvet bough
and also what he did lines up with how jaxy plays too
sick lantern
I could say right now that diamonds decrease your chance for one to spawn and pe...
noted
somber turret
I could say right now that diamonds decrease your chance for one to spawn and pe...
Oh god someone's going to see that and start it now
hidden pagoda
Oh god someone's going to see that and start it now
Ruh roh
sick lantern
Way ahead of you fisher
full cave
I could say right now that diamonds decrease your chance for one to spawn and pe...
thank god i read this whole post. i was about to shred you half way in
lol
velvet bough
im too tired for that argument lo
lol
o nvm i didnt readd it all the way either
im 3/4 of the way asleep
hidden pagoda
no worries lol
full cave
trolled
velvet bough
tbh i do wish they made GO spawns like diamond spawns that are a little more consistent tho
but still extremely rare
hidden pagoda
Eh i like the randomness
somber turret
From what I learned is kill all males at some point what you want is going to pop up sooner or later it's worked with every diamond and great one grind I've had
hidden pagoda
You could get on tomorrow and thereāll be one waiting for you or you could have to work for 5 months to get it lol
velvet bough
like diamonds normally average 100 to 150 kills but id say 5-6k kills maybe 7k on average would be a goodd consistency imo
full cave
i was super careful about how i wrote my study. so many times i bring stuff up even in this discord and i just get beat over the head for it. nothing wrong with that. people have their beliefs and im all for doing what works for you. but it was just funny how much i edited my post to try and avoid pissing people off.
hidden pagoda
From what I learned is kill all males at some point what you want is going to po...
Yeah same.
somber turret
I'm just happy great ones can't troll
full cave
From what I learned is kill all males at some point what you want is going to po...
i believe this to be the worst of the theories out there tbh.
hidden pagoda
All Iāve done is shoot every male I possibly can using the same zones in a run and itās worked for me
full cave
not belittling you. sorry that was harsh. i believe it to be the least effective.
hidden pagoda
Minimum of 859 for one and max of 5174 (for wt) at least
sick lantern
Profit
hidden pagoda
I learned everything from that soniclasagna personal tbh
lmao youāre making me look shitty stahp
sick lantern
Good
hidden pagoda
Fuck you too then lmao
high heath
i learned nothing from nobody!
somber turret
i believe this to be the worst of the theories out there tbh.
Yeah but it worked I started questioning myself multiple times because of what other people used but I mean it worked so I'm happy with it
sick lantern
Fuck you too then lmao
ily too
hidden pagoda
I just started wrecking deer May of 2021 and I got good things lol
full cave
oh no doubt. and its great it worked! do what works for you 100%.
hidden pagoda
oh no doubt. and its great it worked! do what works for you 100%.
yeah you know what? Thatās the best theory.
sick lantern
oh no doubt. and its great it worked! do what works for you 100%.
he's a rookie /s
somber turret
Like I was at a point of getting a 9 every 60-85 kills and there was at one point where I didn't get a single diamond for almost 500 lol
hidden pagoda
do what works for you but donāt go around talking like itās the cure for cancer
hidden pagoda
Like I was at a point of getting a 9 every 60-85 kills and there was at one poin...
Oh yeah same lol
full cave
sonic and king...i dm'd you a link to my study. would be really cool to get your thoughts since youre obviously in the upper echelon of this community.
hidden pagoda
This is what things have looked like in the last 350 or so for me
full cave
but nooooo pressure. im super casual.
hidden pagoda
just bonkin deer
high heath
ah yes
sick lantern
I'd like to read said study
full cave
im happy to dm it to whoever wants it.
hidden pagoda
but nooooo pressure. im super casual.
yeah my b, I got used to the arrogant people that have the audacity to think theyāre right and them only and mistook you for someone like that
full cave
lol no worries. i know how people are.
im a new grinder and i have 0 great ones. im 600 kills into my first grind.
i am no expert.
velvet bough
also i agree with his study 100% idd check it out
full cave
but i do know how to collect and analyze data. and thats what i did.
high heath
why not playing in full screen :|
alt tabbing becomes buggy
sick lantern
alt tabbing becomes buggy
o h
hidden pagoda
Speaking of which there is something I want to share myself
Take it with a grain of salt
full cave
also i agree with his study 100% idd check it out
thank you. that means a ton from someone like you.
velvet bough
yeah i mean its a theory but imo its very very accurate considering its a real anaylitic study and very well lines up with how jaxy beard grinds
i also tried it and the ddeer spawned exactly how they saidd they would
hidden pagoda
**Take it with a grain of salt**
Iāve noticed a small pattern in male respawns, am not saying this is causation rather than correlation, though Iāve noticed the run(s) a diamond appears in is typically surrounded by lots of larger deer, with smaller deer appearing the longest apart.
Basically it goes in a wave
velvet bough
yep there is a reason for that
hidden pagoda
but Iāve also seen Min weights next to, immediately after, or immediately before diamonds/GOs
amber rune
the runs where Iāve gotten diamonds have seemed like there was tons of lvl 8ās and also a shit ton of tiny deer, seems like it has some correlation for sure but idk š¤·š¼āāļø
full cave
Basically it goes in a wave
i agree with this 100%. but its not a built in mechanic - its a symptom of the mechanics built into the game that are designed to regulate species and herd sizes.
hidden pagoda
So I donāt think size necessarily goes up and down in a wave but rather extremity
velvet bough
thats why lady legend leaves her lv4s and under
hidden pagoda
i agree with this 100%. but its not a built in mechanic - its a symptom of the m...
yeah thatās kinda what Iām pointing at
velvet bough
it drasticially spedd up her grind
hidden pagoda
thats why lady legend leaves her lv4s and under
I think thatāsā¦ not the way to go about it but again to each their own
sick lantern
Thatās why I like him.
do you like grilled š§ too...?
amber rune
it drasticially spedd up her grind
or she just got lucky from there on out, who knows
hidden pagoda
All Iāve noticed leaving smaller deer does is make everything a small deer
raw ether
Lady is horrible to listen to, like Iām sorry but Iād rather take advice from DD
velvet bough
I think thatāsā¦ not the way to go about it but again to each their own
it lines up perfectly with his analytic studdy and how jaxy grinds too tho actually in this case
and its helped me get bigger stags to spawn more often
somber turret
Iāve noticed a small pattern in male respawns, am not saying this is causation r...
Mine was much similar about 80% of my diamonds came from the right side of the map where a good bit of the population was always six sevens and eights
velvet bough
the game always wants to keep balance remember that so if there is a bunch of small lv3s andd 4s, your game is going to try to put in more bigger ones
hidden pagoda
Tbf I never tried it on red deer but I saw significantly more 4s immediately prior to my GOs than sooner on
but thatās probably because thereās no āprogress barā and itās about getting lucky
velvet bough
well it helps to get lv3s an 2s tbh. the chance of a lv2 or lv1 spawn is about the same of a diamondd or mythical
thats the whole point
hidden pagoda
well level 1 males donāt exist but ig what ur saying
velvet bough
once you go through your spawns by the end of it the game returns it to balance
well yeah lv2
full cave
the tldr of the study is: species are regulated such that the game always wants to create an equilibrium in the size of your species. meaning you will always have most of your species be in the center range of weight classes and smaller numbers of higher ranges and lower ranges. the distribution looks like a bell curve. as you kill those middle range animals it puts spawns on the map of higher or lower ranges. this is important as getting as many smalls on your map is crucial to create space for bigger animals. when you push animals up to bigger (say 7,8,9s for red deer) when you kill them they have to go down to bring equilibrium. when they go down you kill them again (never killing smalls - 4s and below) the only way they can go is up again. so it creates, as sonic said, a wave.
sorry for the long post.
hidden pagoda
Though for my lowest kill GO I had the least amount of diamonds prior
only 4.
about 150-350 kills apart
hidden pagoda
Though for my lowest kill GO I had the least amount of diamonds prior
I just realized how dumb this sounds
*in 1000 kills
lowest diamonds in a thousand kills prior
velvet bough
well for the GO spawn the theory is its pure RNG its not part of the main games balance but if you get more diamonds technicially you get a higher chance but its still random if u know what i mean its not like there is an average
which makes sense why you only had 4 prior since its random
full cave
ok, i know i get roasted for this everytime...but i am so convinced at this point that GOs spawn off diamonds.
hidden pagoda
Indirectly? Maybe.
amber rune
Iāve seen them spawn off about everything
velvet bough
im pretty sure they do too but its random not like a consistent thing
full cave
it doesnt mean you have to kill a diamond to spawn a GO as the next spawn. but only diamonds roll RNG for GOs.
more diamonds = more roll chances. then its pure RNG.
velvet bough
also not immediately, the next "diamond" that would spawn in would be a GO
since, from jaxy himself, a great one is an "upgraded diamond"
hidden pagoda
This is what Iām talking about here though
amber rune
unless your bucks and stags jump around zones drastically then great ones donāt always spawn off diamonds
full cave
ok, essentially sonic - and this is all in that post i gave you so ill keep it short - when you kill an animal the game does not take that animal and spawn it back on the map with adjusted stats.
hidden pagoda
also not immediately, the next "diamond" that would spawn in would be a GO
I actually see where youāre going with this
full cave
if it did this people could spam the same spawn over and over to kill trophies.
velvet bough
unless your bucks and stags jump around zones drastically then great ones donāt ...
well what hes saying is when a diamond is killed, the next one that spawns in is an upgraded diamond
so its not direct if u know what i mean
velvet bough
if it did this people could spam the same spawn over and over to kill trophies.
you are missing something lol
hidden pagoda
ok, essentially sonic - and this is all in that post i gave you so ill keep it s...
Yeah I get that, fuck whatās the graph a plinko board makes?
I think the spawns follow that though
velvet bough
the thing is most of the time, when you get your big spawns, and shoot them all they reset back to middle class stags
andd thats exactly what happened to me
hidden pagoda
Yeah I get that, fuck whatās the graph a plinko board makes?
my codex would support this lol
velvet bough
you either get lucky and get a diamond or GO, or they spawn as smaller ones or u get a mix
velvet bough
i eventually got to where i had 10-12 level 7s that were max weight estimate, while having several level 3s and 4s
i shot all the big ones and went back to look for lv7+, and almost all of them respawned as lv5 and 6
full cave
so what it does is it takes that kill and puts it in a bank of "available spawns". when you kill another animal the game looks at some sort of variable. i dont know what this is, but for example "total trophy rating" and it says...ok i have 250 trophy rating available to stay in the range. what spawns are in the bank that will remain in that limit? and it takes those - adjusts the stats - and puts them on your map.
velvet bough
but at one point i got lucky and got a diamond to spawn cuz one of the mythicals went up in score insteadd of down
hidden pagoda
so what it does is it takes that kill and puts it in a bank of "available spawns...
Iāll have to stream and rewatch my vod and analyze the tr difference between runs
full cave
so what this means is...you have to have diamonds in that bank system to spawn to your map where the weight gets pushed to GO weight when the stats are adjusted. it does not mean a diamond needs killed for a GO to be the next spawn.
believe me...lol. i did just that.
hidden pagoda
Oh lmao
full cave
the study i did took me 300 hours.
hidden pagoda
I still wanna see for myself, am that way lol
full cave
no please do!
im one man with one theory. the more people start to look for these things the more credibility it creates
somber turret
I am genuinely curious about one thing was spawning animals does quality of kill do anything for it meaning clean shots quick kills
velvet bough
if you do what he did tho just saying you will get bigger stags to spawn JS it works but also doesnt change how the GO will spawn in the end so no matter what if you are spawning diamonds ur on your way
full cave
what i did was literally go to every zone on my map and record every animal in that zone. then i killed 1 animal and went to every single zone on the map again to find the spawn. if i didnt find a spawn i went zone hunting.
hidden pagoda
I am genuinely curious about one thing was spawning animals does quality of kill...
Yeah I just messed up a 255.5 so Iāll be on the look out for that
full cave
i did this because i wanted to learn how spawns, zones and herds worked.
velvet bough
I am genuinely curious about one thing was spawning animals does quality of kill...
i mean u can grindd with the 300 so id say not
full cave
if itās based on score why would the medal matter
i dont think this is the case. i strongly believe the game is based off weight. not TR.
somber turret
i mean u can grindd with the 300 so id say not
Oh I did everything died with the 300 that was not a rare a diamond or a level 2
hidden pagoda
i dont think this is the case. i strongly believe the game is based off weight. ...
Iād say a mix of both from the little bit of info tracking Iāve done
But the majority of whitetail are in that 75-84.5 kg range ime
velvet bough
the game does keep track of the score of the animals thats confirmed
but it ddoesnt matter really
full cave
there are 2 reasons for this. first - when the game first came out it was exactly this. the weight of every species determines the TR. when they put in truracks they wouldnt have recoded the entire system for this. instead now weight sets a base, then the game creates a rack off that base. this ensures you cant grow a diamond rack off a 75kg WT deer for instance.
hidden pagoda
thatās entirely fair, I donāt think Iāve ever thought of the old state of the game affecting the currently state
full cave
2nd all GOs are based off weight. you have to hit 110 or 240 for you to hit fable. to me this means weight determines all levels.
somber turret
Yes everyone knows that
velvet bough
thats true too u could guess what an animal would score based off weight
aka zag tactics
full cave
so i believe the entire game is based off weight. so when a spawn is put on your map the game changes the weight
velvet bough
even tho hes not the one who discoveredd it he just promoted it
full cave
so long story short - i dont think a botched shot will affect the spawn because it doesnt care about the score - it only cares about raising or lowering the weight.
BUT with that said. the kill you make is not the animal that spawns. so you will never know when that lvl 3 WT you killed is spawned back on the map. impossible to do just through the game.
so i tell you think because if you try and solve if a shot placement affects the spawn...its going to give you bad data.
i can only theorize if the game is based on weight...it would not. but i might be completely wrong.
somber turret
I'm honestly curious on what determines and sets up the size of the antlers of the animal
hidden pagoda
i can only theorize if the game is based on weight...it would not. but i might b...
Thatās entirely fair as well, I do notice more 55-70s when 85-100s start showing themselves
full cave
its weight and then procedural generation.
many games do PG. so its common place that EW would design PG to do racks.
again...that was very fact and i am only assuming based off the information i have.
somber turret
Because I've always wondered how my level 8 troll rack red is so much more bigger than pretty much every single actual troll troll rack I've ever seen
full cave
yea that i cant answer lol
hidden pagoda
I donāt think I ever had a 240s troll red with that rack but I have had multiple 8s
velvet bough
ive had some i think but iddk
hidden pagoda
Itās probably nothing lol
somber turret
I donāt think I ever had a 240s troll red with that rack but I have had multiple...
I somehow got a 241 exactly and that's like one of the biggest ones I've seen but I got a 243.7 lvl 8 one
full cave
btw...the PG thing...i am almost positive ive also seen an EW vid where they show behind the scenes and it showed PG in action for racks.
hidden pagoda
hmmm
full cave
wait...isnt 240 max?
somber turret
Score not weight
hidden pagoda
For crab claw?
velvet bough
wtf i shot one of those with 216 score troll rack
full cave
oh. youre talking GO racks. nevermind.
hidden pagoda
Lmao thatās not troll rack
somber turret
wtf i shot one of those with 216 score troll rack
That was the fallow rack I bet
hidden pagoda
wtf i shot one of those with 216 score troll rack
Thatās a version that looks pretty similar but is different
velvet bough
o lol i never seen it before
hidden pagoda
yeahhh lol
somber turret
o lol i never seen it before
One sec
full cave
anyway...i appreciate you all letting me talk about my stuff. i know how people can be about their theories, so its really not lost on me that you all were accepting of my lengthy information.
hidden pagoda
no no Iām listening because you actually have the study to back your claim
velvet bough
tbh i think its funny how protective they are over meaningless data but do NOTHING about the hackers in the game
hidden pagoda
RIGHT
somber turret
o lol i never seen it before
velvet bough
ye it was that one
somber turret
i call it the fallow rack just cuz it kinda looks like one
velvet bough
RIGHT
they wont even IP ban the hackers! they need a report system ddont even need anti cheat!
hidden pagoda
they wont even IP ban the hackers! they need a report system ddont even need ant...
mmmm yes
velvet bough
not enough people in the community that hacks to need an anti cheat like call of dduty we could just get them all IP banned then they would need a new router or something to play online lol
somber turret
and my baby and its 243.1 not .7
velvet bough
i mean you can report players in classic and they will be banned with no anti cheat in that game
somber turret
a lot of 9s has this troll rack (top) where a lot of 8s has this rack (bottom) is the size dif i think
hidden pagoda
Alright you know what ima give a shot tonight?
Prioritizing smaller deer. Just to see
full cave
id be super interested in what you find.
hidden pagoda
Iāll do 3 diamonds. One with just killing everything, no priorities. One with prioritizing the smols, and one with prioritizing the beeg males
full cave
sonic one thing i found and i am 125% confident in this. the spawn you get after a kill does not go back to the same zone you killed it from. it can, but this is very RNG - not a guaranteed thing. there has to be some mechanics that limit which herds it can attach to (i think this is so you dont get like herds of 20 or 20 herds of 10) but i havent solved this yet.
but its very important to know...if you do a rotation and have spawns in the rotation zones...those spawns A) are likely not the spawns from the kills from that zone and B) could be similar in stats to the kills from those zones because of the mechanics that determine what herd a spawn attaches to.
hidden pagoda
Yep. Though I will say I think claiming deer keeps them in that zone, works if you accidentally shoot does.
full cave
i think this screws a lot of people up when they try to figure out spawns. they think the spawn in a zone is the spawn from the kill they made in that zone.
hidden pagoda
Though we have no way of knowing for sure unless we violate rule j unfortunately
full cave
and its also why you hear so much of...my spawns arent coming back to their zones. its because (most likely) they are in a different zone or nothing spawned that the herd can accept.
somber turret
sonic one thing i found and i am 125% confident in this. the spawn you get after...
oh yes big time i used that to move hinds around on my grind
hidden pagoda
for me red deer pops are more stable
full cave
Yep. Though I will say I think claiming deer keeps them in that zone, works if y...
im dont want to contradict you, but 100% in my theory this is not true. i claim everything.
i need the money...thats really the reason for it. but i claim everything.
hidden pagoda
The number of stags was stagnant for every one of the 9600 kills I did
Whitetail? Not so much.
full cave
i do think wt spawns have some issues right now. in my study they acted very different.
and i dont think it was intentional.
full cave
that doesnt surprise me at all. in fact i wrote in that study that your herds will increase and decrease in size.
hidden pagoda
Also if I have a zone of more than 4 I have to shoot more than 2 deer for them to respawn into that herd
I see
full cave
its because whatever is controlling herd size - there were no spawns that the herd could accept.
hidden pagoda
So like 5 deer? Shoot 3. 6 deer? Shoot 4. Thatās what I have to do otherwise the bucks donāt come back lol
full cave
i thought it might be weight or tr...but its so random based off the numbers i cant confirm it. i honestly have no clue what the mechanic is.
well also understand...and i can 100% confirm this...when you kill an animal it doesnt always have a corresponding spawn
the opposite is also true in that you can get multiple spawns from killing an animal.
full cave
your species size will fluxuate up and down.
hidden pagoda
If I shoot 2 of the does and 2 of the bucks only the bucks come back
And then the run after it goes down to 4 the does come back
full cave
are the bucks gone and you didnt shoot them?
hidden pagoda
no no I shot them.
full cave
got it...ok...so here is what is happening.
start with 5 (2 bucks, 3 does). you shoot the 2 bucks. lets say both get spawns. the spawns will have NOTHING to do with what you shot.
so lets say you shot (ill use red deer because using levels is easier to explain) 2 male level 5s. you may spawn a level 3 and a level 8 out of that.
velvet bough
welp got a lv5 goose to shoot
hidden pagoda
well also Iām talking specifically whitetail
Red deer donāt care how many females are there (as long as 2 deer are left ofc), they respawn
full cave
lol ok. so lets say you shot a 75kg and a 90kg wt.
hidden pagoda
fair
full cave
you might get a 40kg and a 80 kg spawn out of that.
but (and again, i have no idea what is controlling this) the herd you shot those from may not be able to accept those weights. so they get attached elsewhere.
then you go and shoot 1 of the 3 remaining does.
hidden pagoda
I see where youāre going with this
full cave
but from that 1 doe - you got 2 female spawns.
now...its unlikely that those 2 spawns are the ones in that zone, but for simplicity we will pretend. so those 2 doe go back in the zone...BUT on your rotation you also shot 20 males.
well the spawns from those 20 males...they might have 2 males that the herd can now accept...so those spawns get attached to the herd.
so when you come back...now you have 4 does and 2 new males.
hidden pagoda
ahhh
I will say
If I donāt shoot the does the number of males goes up in some zones by 1 or 2
Iāve also had that zone go to all bucks before
Literally 6 bucks lmao
full cave
that doesnt surprise me, but i wish i had a clear answer to why it happens.
hidden pagoda
Yeah I wish we knew how shit actually worked
full cave
it just means you spawned a male in your rotation the herd could accept...so it went there.
i have zero doubt in my mind that spawns dont care at all what zone they came from. the game does not store that information and attach it to the spawn. its all controlled by a backend mechanic that limits what a herd can accept.
my evidence of this really comes from watching herds. if you pay close attention - youll notice that the number of multiple deer herds doesnt change much. like if you go around and count that you have...i dunno...40 herds that have 2+ deer.
you can go back after 2000 kills and expect that youll be around 40 herds still with 2+ deer.
there is something in the game that limits the number of multiple deer herds and how big a herd can be.
i honestly think this is why we dont see herds of like 10 males. they are always hovering less than maybe 5 for wt?
full cave
for reds i dont think ive seen a herd with more than 3 males.
hidden pagoda
Oh yeah youāre talking males
same yeah
Though again Iāve had a zone of 6 be all males
full cave
yea, i dont know the exact numbers of males in a herd and it definitely seems different per species. so sounds like wt can have 6
but youll likely never have 10 -15 males in a herd.
hidden pagoda
also couldnāt it technically be different across all platforms? Since theyāre all on different versions.
full cave
if it was completely rng...theoretically this could happen. means there is a mechanic that limits this.
maybe?
i cant say no
hidden pagoda
Itās limited rng yeah thatās for sure but still random enough nonetheless
Like how score is random but thereās marks itāll never pass
full cave
yup, i agree.
hidden pagoda
Like youāre not going to get a 1200 scoring diamond
full cave
exactly...and i really believe its all weight.
well and the parameters they put on the procedural generation for racks.
hidden pagoda
Iāve never seen a whitetail below 72
full cave
with wt being 100kg max weight there is definitely a tr limit. its just not public like non-truracks.
hidden pagoda
yeah itās for us to discover
Through thousands of hours of effort
weāll find it out eventually lol
full cave
well the regs in here probably have 100k + kills of Wt and we still dont know
lol so keep grinding.
or as littlenightma called you all "the elders" lol
hidden pagoda
well the regs in here probably have 100k + kills of Wt and we still dont know
no lol
I donāt think anyone in this game has 100k kills of a single species
full cave
oh i meant combined
if someone has 100k kills on their own...its time to put down the controller.
hidden pagoda
I have 18,200 whitetail kills, so everything I see is from a big sample size
Though I havenāt been keeping clear track of it enough to claim anything for certain
full cave
well its good that youre seeing what i see on that scale. gives good validation.
really the only reason im talking about this stuff. im humble enough to know im just a theorist like everyone else, but the more data i can obtain, the better credibility i can put toward the theory.
hidden pagoda
Oh yeah, I think itās a bit more random than youāre giving it credit but I think youāre on the right track. Then again we could be wrong.
full cave
100%. i refuse to data mine or use 3rd party tools. not cause i look down on them really, but i set out to create a theory anyone could use.