#🦌︴great-ones
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I’m leaning towards it…
bro beacuse of that picture
I want that droptines rack…
you are bassically making me start another great one grind 1 second after this great one grind is over
Lol it’s worth it man
I just keep going to stare at it
Like yes
The suffering was worth it lmao
I’m soooo lucky I got three different racks
gotta re-discover my layton map
Yup
Biggest and smallest on Rancho
I know…I need to actually check
or a 3 very easy
Cuz I killed a lotta deer before I got to that zone as well
It was one of my last ones
Both of my last two were at the same lake on Rancho and were in zones I chased the deer out of to shoot because the brush was soooo thick
Thing that sucks is I’d be looking and scouting rn but it’s so hot here in the UK my laptop is overheating even with a fan base and two other fans in the room
So I’m just sat here
Slowly having the great ones lure me back…
Me popping up from the bush to smoke my last one like surprise I’m hereeee 🤣
so i got the great one
at the
cerros del espinazo
don't know the lake name
but that's the subregion
Ahh
I got mine at the hugggge middle one that’s all weird looking
Oh yes that lake is a good one
I’ve shot three max weights there
Mine? The central one just left of the starter lodge
oh
It’s a massive lake and it’s a pain to grind
But
I love it
Because it’s been lucky twice lol
my favourite like before i got the great one was the one
a little bit north
of the starter lodge
Oh yes I like that one
now i guess you can take a wild guess which my favourite lake is
does anyone on rancho has a zone that stands out above all the rest?
Not really they all are pretty generous to me so far
i'm talking about average score of males, consistent respawns and the number of diamonds..
I have yet to get a diamond on Rancho I’ll get back to you on that one lmao
since I started the grind I have found like 7 or 8 diamonds, at least 5 are from the same zone, it's crazy
the zone is so good I always leave it for last on the run
i get bigger bucks
as motivation 😄
don't know if that's a glitch with the hunt club or something
but im keeping it turned off
Anybody noticed it seems like when you kill a great one on rancho one with the same rack spawns in on your Layton
I doubt that is real
you know we as humans have a tendency to find patterns in everything
we had it confirmed by tk that hunt club beta does nothing to spawns
most people have it turned off for it can cause crashes
tk said the devs looked into it and found nothing
that is not saying is not there
but I do get your point
its very true we as humans make things up to suit its only natural
yeah it's in our nature, it's part of our "survival kit" 😄
i can remember hunter classic there was a old age thing about how many times you called effected game
then a few years later a dev came out and said it made know difference
but...many people said call six time or this long and so on
yeah some times system can interact in expected wats
we often make things more elaborated than is needed
and it can take a while until someone (devs) find it
tbh I doubt there is an impact in club beta
some things can be true or just because of a bug though
but in IT you never know 😄
@pliant oak when you got the great one there was one with the same rack on your Layton and same for scarecrow do you think that it spawns on your Layton when you kill one on rancho
dont see why that would happen
haven't watched the new vid yet sooo. are the rares rare?
was scare crows the same rack as his first ?
Yes
ahhh right
mine were almost identical apart from different weights
just got my first decent respawn for a good few days been slow
in this heat its especially sweaty 😂
upto 30c inside
The thing is that neither of you had done any grinding they were both already there
once you take the "skill part" out, it like going to the casino
on layton yeah
rancho i killed probably 2000
i think tbh layton needs looking at as the whitetail are doing there travel thing
I used to work in video slots and bingo, and I always felt that players had this crazy theories and ways to get the machine to pay more
it was all in their heads 😅
i actually discussed that with scarecrow earlier he only killed a few and i killed about ten whitetail and one was a diamond
Do you wanna start a fight?
fruit machines there is methods and probability techniques 😁
idk if it was you who made that video on how to get to that little island on balmont lake but if you were the guy who made that video , thank you , that little island has brought me soo many rares (and one troll blacktail)
sorry did I say something wrong?
Just don’t dwell on that topic, we all have our own theories, so don’t go there
just shot a diamond mallard there 😁
ohh ok wasn't pointint fingers at anyone or say that X or Y is worng
was just making a parallel, sorry if I somehow made you unconfortable
the secret tent location was actually shown to me by a big classic player called pretty boy
That secret tent is great, but the render glitch is an issue there for console
yeah at moment but should be solved with update fingers crossed
🤞
Didn’t make me uncomfortable, talking about that has lead to fights on this channel before, so just warning you that it’s best not to talk about if the theories are just “all in their heads”. Now let’s just end this conversation here
Nothing wrong with the conversation when people can act appropriately towards one another
ok thanks for the warning but I thought I was pretty polite and open. if people can take an opinion it's on them not me
Exactly
what I said is that we have the tendency to look for patterns and reasons, yet who I am I to say their are true or not
We do, we want to have a reasoning for everything so we connect dots that are nowhere near each other or are non-existent in the first place. Human nature and all, lol
For me, I am going to grind my heart out until I get at least one GO. That would truly make me happy
Oh well here we go again I guess
Time to kill and slaughter many whitetail again
Why am I doing this to myself 🤣
This is true
Yesss
1st lvl 3 located
nice
nice
nice
Please keep on topic for this channel.
2nd run, 2nd lvl 3
Looks like my spawns are still favourable lol
Would’ve been a diamond just but I spined him somehow. He was in a weird spot but don’t really mind
score?
255.90
Was a small diamond boi but I literally don’t want any more small ones lol so not too worried I just wanted him dead more than anything
good
Over 50 whitetail diamonds already in my trophy manager lol
I think I’m gonna have to stop taxing anything that isn’t a weird looking diamond or 270+
Which feels weird
But idk what to do with so many
fill an entire lodge with diamonds?
If there was enough deer sized plaques I would lol
gotta go for multi lodge setup
have each lodge into brackets 😄
255-> 260, 260->270 etc..
i just sort my geese by feather type
what would be cool to is have diamonds organized by need zone
but that would take alot of effort
and memory
I don’t think I can do another full grind honestly - I got three racks I really wanted and I’m super happy. I guess I just worry I’m never good enough and constantly am trying to prove myself but honestly I feel so burnt out on whitetail
I hope they bring out another GO soon lol
Uh oh! Lol
U know if U get a 4th then u're gonna want a 2nd huddle 😂
Lol nah gonna hunt lynx for a bit
Nah you need to get yourself a rare GO now!!! So many have common GOs! Go for the Fabled GO!!!
Or Mela GO!
Hahaha I get that!
I needs me an albino lion
Or an albino GO!! 😹😹
Hmmm since GTA is getting a update tomorrow maybe we will also get a release date on rancho 🤣😭 please let that happen 😭
Yep we will get news tomorrow. The news on the update will be "we have no release date but the second we know you'll know". Trust me we won't even get a sniff of it for 4-6 weeks at the earliest 🤷 Thats based off of the last several times theyve failed certification on the first attempt. But we did here the product owner laugh and adamantly say this release will be nothing like the NZ release 😹😹 Proofs in the pudding my man. Looks and feels the same to me
😹😹
But anyway yea that's how I feel rn😭
Same here. They honestly had me fooled with all the talk of how things will change. The sayings so true. The more things change,the more they stay the same.
Definition of insanity. Doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.
Right 🤦
Bro it's like that feeling when undertaker lost to Brock Lesnar at mania 30 😭
Hahaha for sure!!!! Thats awesome!!!
coding is very hard to understand and they got a small development team thats split up between 3 groups one fixes bugs one makes the content and one does something else i forget exactly, but to find an issue u gotta literallly look through hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of lines of code and something as small as a decimal point in the wrong spot or a space can break the game
love the song tho btw lol
but anyway its just, that easy and each time you change something u dont know how other parts of the code will react to what you just changed EVEN if you test it
well if you understand thats how coding works then why u complaining
u didnt even read what i said lol
I'm not complaining. Just stating facts
I did. We've heard that every time somethings delayed. Thats just why I said that
I mean hey at least they ain't like Rs release a update every 6 months guess I'll give credit on that😂
well if u dont like it and cant accept the reality dont play the game thats how i see it
Ok. I'll take your word. Youre the man
ive done coding for other things so i can see how rediculously easy it is to break things. ive programmed machines irl to cut metal and in a way its slightly similiar, and literally 1 space or something or one small code, a semi colon a period etc will cause a crash and can be fatal if you are caught up in it
cuz u would be surprised, how a code that you would think is literally not even related to something reacting with a completely different line of code for something else
Not arguing with ya man. Youre right. Any of us who arent happy with the bugs,constant delays just dont buy the game or dlcs. Your 100% right. Thats the best endorsement a company could have is having some consumers saying dont buy their product😹
Yep. They are.
I'm a human too but have standards to meet for my job. But my jobs not making a video game so its less important. You guys are right. If the games broken,dont play it. Dont buy the new content.
absolutely
not to mention. Bethesda's re-released Skyrim with the same major bugs in it how many times? But still does nothing to fix those bugs, since people buy it anyways?
EW could easily go that route, but they don't.
Yes, it takes a while for the fixes, but they eventually do come.
Basically it’s a simple process. It’s not hard to get right. If I don’t code the plc properly in the saw mill people will die. It’s called checking your work and making sure you do it right. If it’s not being done right time and time again hire some new people that will do it right
Yea well you just have to tell the family members that youre just human. You tried. And to any customers if they dont like your companies policies or are unhappy about the product,dont work there or don't buy the product 🤷
but the thing with gaming coding is that even if it tests ok, you dont know how it may react with other lines of code once its released on console
And thats the main point of when people say "be happy pc gets early release cause they fix all the bugs so console gets a bug free release" 😹
??????
Maybe people actually don't like it when you're constantly shitting on the game and the people behind it?
Maybe people don't like getting pooped on by the company?
Again the discords not just for positive opinions. Reps themselfs have said they welcome every kind of feedback
And they're not going to see any feedback here in the discord.
So it honestly just seems like you're here intentionally trying to drag everyone down
Most of us are here to enjoy the game, bugs or not
Just stating experience. And thats all good. If you enjoy it,great express that,those who dont,let them express that too
And expressing negativity here has no point because there aren't any devs here to see it.
honestly all this is part of the reason I try to avoid using this server now
So what youre saying is its only for anybody who says positive things? It's also for expressing negative experiences. Then they should state if you dont have positive things to say about the game you can't be in the discord?
Constant negativity like you seem prone to spouting tends to turn environments toxic. 🤷♀️
When I have positive experiences I state them. When I dont I express them to.
I'm not like many who if they disagree attack that opinion and such. I just state my opinions then get attack by others who disagree 😹
Thats what makes this chat toxic. If we want to be real
Half the negativity comes from people who don't understand how games work
You realize they have their own game engine?
They can't share it or anything, no one knows how it's done except them
Where's unreal engine things get fixed easier cuz everyone's familiar with it
How does their engine work blitz?
??? Well then I guess they should switch to the unreal engine you mention if its that easy.
To do that, they'd have to rebuild the entire game from scratch.
Was just wondering cause blitz seems to know all about it. Do you know how the game works? Why attack me?
I'm just getting incredibly frustrated with all the hatred people seem to have
If you want to try so hard to convince people to not buy this "broken and never getting fixed" game, better off going elsewhere because most people here already have it.
Understandable. But again the chats not just to p imp the game.
😹😹 I never said not to buy the game!! Blitz said that! I never did. I was just stating an opinion
Idk how their engine works no one does except themb
Yeah I am the one who said if you don't like what's happening leave
Like I mean w the bugs
I'm not attacking you I was just saying that their system is alot more complex and alot of the hate they get is cuz people don't understand
Exactly @fast ridge
And honestly, that's work for ya
Any job u do someone else customers and stuff etc don't understand everything or any of it as to why things happen
I’m not gonna get into this, I just want to say, it’s a GAME.
Ok. I have no idea what youre saying there and thats ok. The bizz I works for understands the clients and what they're "promised". So will end it here cause its going in circles. Lol Good nigjt
And what lyra said,if they switched engines they would have to entirely rebuild it from scratch.
IDK I'm not the one who brought up.engines 😹
I'm saying you obviously don't understand that some things can't be prevented like bugs 👀
😹😹 right on man.
I brought that up to try and enlighten you on a small part of the reason, it's a small group of people working on their own engine.
The rest lies within the complex system of the coding
Yea dude. Its done. You know more than we do. It's all good man. Let it be
Well if I were you I would uninstall if you don't like it
Yep like you say. If we dont like it dont support and purchase from EW
Yeah, and they need to not complain for 100 years
Hahaha what???
Not saying u constantly did cuz personally I haven't seen u here that much but I'm speaking for the people that are like that
So youre speaking about others and their opinions bit not me cause you dont know me.
Everyone has a right to have their own opinion it's not wrong. But it's wrong to complain and complain and trash talk devs
They are human beings too
Why is it wrong to complain? They even said theselves they welcome negative feedback.
No they said report the bugs to thehunter support and to be proactive
And I'm not even complaining. Lol Just stating experiences lol
Hmmm not what they said last stream
Last couple streams actually
And yep. Youre 100% right. I report bugs all the time to.support when I encounter them. Should probably move the convo elsewhere if we gonna get down to the rules 🤷
I was gonna say something earlier but people already went on and on about it so
Cool dm me and anybody else whos chymed in and we can chat there
I'm not dm anyone I'm fina pass out soon and my 2 brain cells are fighting over what to reply with
Needs sleep to Regen them
Cool. Then goodnight
I said "soon" lol
But I'm not arguing anymore with someone who clearly is trying to be toxic to the community by saying things like "insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results" when you know well enough your referring to the bugs that are out of anyone's power to fix immediately
Again Just stating an opinion. Let it be. Youre choosing to go on and on. I was saying way more than what you said. Easy to take 1 line out of a convo like that and focus on that. I'm talking big picture. Again good night. Just let it be. Id say this is more toxic than anything 🤷
Well half of what I said was helping you understand coding tbh lol
But yeah def ending it here not enough energy for this anymore
On a lighter note, two diamond bucks on the same run
🤞🏾 its a sign for better things to come!
Awesome hope u get one soon
haha thanks man. Its been 2000 kills since my 1st one.
dying in style!
im still trying to get my first one lol
how many bucks now?
total or just from rancho?
Both
Are you only grinding Rancho?
about 350 away from 7k, and on rancho ive got just over 2,900 not sure what exact number is on rancho tho id have to check in lodge
i just know its over 2,900, but not over 3k
21 diamonds
from rancho
God damn
dang, 7k. You're overdue. U might get 3 in two days. haha
Layton takes time to setup. Once done, its decent, at least for me its decent now
not for me
the zones move 24/7
u shouldnt have to spend 40 irl hours just to find your zones
now on pc on layton the whitetail deer are constantly travelling or getting to zones late
kinda how it was prior
before it worked well when set up right
Why we wait on the stream today anyone wanna play GTA and make family
HERE WE GO 2ND GO!!
that shot tho
heres codex as always for some people that think it was hacked again.
Coolest rack ever oh my god I might start grinding after all
Looks realistic I love it
Its AGAIN one of the racks i wanted lets goo
That looks like a new rack. It doesn't quite look like the drop tine rack
😁 awesome
It doesn't look like the drop tine rack right? The other one had more drop tines
this is the drop tine rack i got
6 or 7 something like that
and with combined racks- 1 side of the rack being different then the other
Both your great ones are very small in weight
Yea but those seem to be uncommon
Yup
How many kills for the second?
The most weight GO is the one that flinter has
2000 wt
This one looks like a bigger diamond rack
i think i have seen 108 kg one
I've seen 108s and I think a 109
yeah i thought it was a diamond in the first second
This is the coolest one I have seen. I want this one if I get my GO
Scarecrows bugged one was 109.83
Which means scarecrows it technically the biggest one on record even though it's not a Great one
Yeah
my 2nd one was 108 something
Me too but its a very rare rack
I’m working on finding all WT zones on rancho but is quite difficult
how many whitetail kills since the last one was it @abstract atlas
2000
didnt you get the other one about a week ago
- i didnt pick up like 100+
Correct
2000 in a week
gratz @abstract atlas happy for you man!
i know what you doing 😁
so you don't waste time on a cycle I assume?
exactly
yeah I do that too with bad shots
you just wound dont pick up as it will die and its a respawn hes after
Yeah let him die, restart game every cycle and always get them respawned
close game then body gone
yeah happes sometimes when i'm shooting over 300m on some zones
dang 97h in two weeks 😮
How long do you stay playing each day?
shall we go full math
haha
so 48 hrs of gameplay 2000 whitetail killed
41 per hr ish
so what is your average kill count per cycle? just curious
Yeah 1 cycle takes like 20 min if i go fast, or 30 min if slow and i get roughly 20 to 30 bucks per cycle
dang that is alot! you sure know how to optimize 😄
Thats the best rack
And 2 lvl threes today, normally i would get like 3 to 5
I have yet to get a diamond from almost 100 kills, hoping to get one soonish
I work and when I come home I am not always up for playing for 5-6 hours
On my days off I spend about 8-9 hours grinding
Im gonna take a pause from the grinding.. i grinded 2 GO´s back to back jeez
Jealous
I Still haven´t even touched layton,you never know what´s waiting there
You should take a stroll in your layton without grinding
Yeah
so is it like, when you get a GO you have a higher chance of getting another? just from what i have seen
I highly doubt it
Get a third and make that huddle
Nah, RNGesus wanted him to have the side by side
So I picked up most of the deer. Im wondering if not claiming any of the deer could be a strat
If you don’t pick them up, don’t they respawn exactly the same?
no. people have been using this strat
Yeah I found a lvl 5 fallow right after a no picking up round
It works now but the animal has to be dead when you restart your game
So, kill the animal, don’t pick it up and leave it laying and then restart the game?
Only pick them up If u need cash
They both create respawns leaving them doesnt give u better respawns
I don’t need cash at this point
I always picked them up so not doing that seems weird to me, lol
Because I thought if you killed an animal and don’t pick it up it respawns that same one, same weight, score, fur type etc, rendering that strategy redundant
if it dosent die it will re-spawn the same
can close the game if you get a bad shot on a good animal and it will still be there
I pick mine up just so my codex and keep up with my grind
U are way too lucky
Buy a lottery ticket already 🤣
Almost everyone in here has a great one now
He has an albino great one. A LEGIT albino great one, too!
Yeah
All of us were so skeptical of it that we demanded more proof. I’m glad he was so cooperative with us and showed us what we wanted
Blitz u have to be the most unluckiest person I know
I mean it would be unethical if it was real but killing all the males of a specie on a reserve is even more unethical so you can do whatever I only claim animals I there is fog and I can't see the fur type
Congrats on GO#2 ! That's a tidy rack
That's a buck down every minute and a half, that's efficiency for ya 👍
yeah thats some going and doing it hr after hr
normally i get slow periods as well or bucks not respawning
so that would mean some hunts 50+ per hr
do you stream lc @abstract atlas would sit and watch a few runs through with them numbers
@abstract atlas no offense, but I hate you lol
EW: You cant grind for great ones
This dude:
U do relize hes killed only around 2k right
Yeah, mf needs to go to a casino with that luck
Indeed
Or buy a powerball lottery ticket
or give me a small portion of ur luck just enough to get one regular great one lol
Oh yeah this guy was the first person to get a super rare GO right?
Yea in only 300 kills
I dont, i dont think my pc would be able to run streaming
1200+ on rancho
But i had 1000+ on layton year ago and i gave up
ik im pretty near just not grinding wt anymore, considering the amount of kills and diamonds i got without getting one but a bugged one
i should honestly have 2 of the
them
I got a level 4 last year too... if that bug was not fixed, I wouldnt be grinding either.
So depressing all the work go down into a level 4, 185 whitetail
Yea mine was a lv3 that was 131
No, if they are dead they stay dead now. so theres no need to pick up deads when you grind.
tbh if you stream with OBS it doesnt seem to affect PC performance at all
I've had to take a break from grinding.. The Mrs threatened to walk 😆
That’s where my confusion here because I accidentally killed what I thought to be a diamond fallow a few days ago. I didn’t pick it up and closed the game, and there he was again
They shouldn't be still there.. Not since the te awaroa update i think it was
Maybe it was another one
Basically 😂 😂
My PC doesnt like it either in this hot weather
I shall test the theory then
If I don’t have to pick them up you know how much time this will save me 😩
Im not sure if theres any code that creates a penalty for not picking them up but i know if the wildebeest herd freezes the game will crash if you kill too many without picking one up
I always pick at least one up for every 20 kills
Good to know
I was walking around yesterday and somehow I was only 15 meters away from these guys and didn’t even scare them
I’ve noticed some of the deer don’t spook if you are running fast enough. It’s mostly the does that do this
@abstract atlas dude you need to go right to the slot machine with your luck 🤣
Nah its already gone xD
Another troll lol
Do you guys kill all of your males in a zone or do you leave some?
If i can efficiently take 3, i do.
if i miss a few, i dont chase them to get more from a particular zone for the sake of killing them all, i just move on to another zone
I only shoot 2
Some of my zones are turning mostly female. Is that because of me overdoing it with the killing of the males?
Aight
I just started my grind so I don’t want it to go bad before I even got a diamond from it, lol
Yea when u first start ur zones are gonna cause problems but after a little bit it smooths out for the most part
Its different for everyone tho
As long as I am not royally crapping my grind it’s okay
Really trying to stick with this GO thing
Are u shooting bucks from all your zones? or are you ignoring some?
I'm shooting from 15 - 18 zones on my rancho, seems to be working well (respawns wise). so some female only zones are good, haha
Not if I can help it. I try to do 2 at a time, but sometimes I accidentally kill all
I have about 20 zones
i have two diamonds now in groups just leaving em there and shooting the other males see if anything pops up
Ooh nice
haha nice
abit of a marathon grind today. 3 diamonds 1 troll.
dang, tired of looking at WT
I have looked for triggers and beleived there should be certain triggers.... But all my experience in the game and approaching 13k total whitetail kills... Everything points to EW's maintained claim that everything is randomly generated... All that matters is the probability of a spawn and the ONLY way to influence the probability is kill kill kill and hope hope hope... Grinding is basically an exploit and the only exploit to the spawn mechanic... How you do it doesnt matter one bit, its all on your total kills driving the probability into your favour..
yeah i think its something like that myself
i just try different things to see if they work or dont
Hmm never thought of it that way I guess grinding is sort of an exploit. I'm sure the purpose of animal respawns wasn't for them to be continually respawned to try and get a certain thing, just to keep a good population on your map
I think the way they've set layton up now was to avoid the grinding techniques.. I have plenty of zones but nearly all of them are impossible to farm
Dont get me wrong i would love it if there was a secret formula to influence the spawn mechanic but it would also detract from the game if it was common knowledge.... Plenty of people have looked into the coding of the game and they all say the same... Random
Grinding is work and work pays off
But, what you get payed with and when is the question
A rare, a common, a GO? Who knows but good luck, lol
oh good morning ! big boi has spawned! 😄
Nice
jeez
running back to tent now. Shotgun or bow? wind is perfect
Traditional bow
lol....not this one, im terribad with that
Lol
shotgun!!!!!
get
i went with the bow, haha...im waiting for him to calm down before taking the shot
good luck
Wish you luck!
ae
nice one! awesome rack
big rak
Thanks guys. it's been a grind
i am pretty sure everyone here gonna have a huddle before i get my first one lol
i gave up, so now this statement is false
I'll probably be back to my grind once I'm all played-out on my current obsession
which. might be a while tbh
what is the obsession
Join the party.
I'm playing it rn so it's in my status
yep. I got nothing going on in my life rn so.
me either so i grinded 14 hours a day lol
Nice
I found 44 wt drink zones on Layton now. I'm sharing this in case somone have problems finding wt's there now after the reserve reset. This took me probably at least 20 hours to do 🙂
actually 45.. I forgot one..
Damn don’t they change regardless, so that would change anyway
i havent tried hunting them yet, cuss i just finished finding the zones.. but i did try to go back on some of them, and the wt's was in their spots. they dont always stand in the exact same spot, but they were in their zone.
They might end up jumping around those spots, I was under impression once zones were gone they get replaced with other animals after awhile
if you "destroy" the zone, the zone will most likely move, so just dont kill too many animals in the zone. use tripod to avoid it
on layton they are broke so even if u shoot 2 bucks in a herd and use tripods they will up and dissapear alot of times, or they will turn doe only and move zones etc. thats y i dont grind on that map. takes 40 hours to find all the zones
since they can be on literally any peice of water on the map
ok, i dont know.. i thought they fixed it when they did the reset. i havent tried hunting there yet.. now im back on rancho. need a change after spending all that time on layton 😉
nah its the same
absolutely
i will prob give layton a go for other species eventually tho
but ive got no more room in my layton room for my lodge so i cant add any trophies in there at all without having to throw something in another lodge
i will give it a go on layton when im tired of rancho.. doesnt hurt to try.. after all, i spent a lot of time finding the zones lol
yeah
i shouldve already had a great one but the game gave a broken one
i feel like if u have proof u got a broken bugged one you automatically deserve a real great one
i was hoping to find one while finding the zones.. u seen several ppl finding em quick in layton now.. i was not that lucky
yea me either
and ive grinded close to 7k kills, almost 3k of them just on rancho
so idk how i havent got one but its bull that the great one spawned bugged
he will show up 🙂 its just a matter of luck.. some ppl are lucky to find several, and some has to grind thousands.. im only like 500 in, so im still sure i will find one soon 😉
like im not actually gonna do it, but if u got a broken one because they didnt wanna fix it for 8 months, and you wanted to have one spawn in (just one) then go for it
yeah im sure u will
cuz everyone else here has different luck than me
dont give up 🙂 just take a break from the grind
i have been
but its to the point where i dont wanna hunt them ever again
cuz i shot so many
43 diamonds
wow. .thats many.. i shot 8 diamonds in rancho in 7 days.. and i found 2 in layton when finding the zones
and i have to get a job soon and if i get hired i wont have any time
i highlu doubt im gonna get one
highly
thats life.. but u will find one sooner or later 😉
i actually meant to say that twice and realized the other one had a typo
nah probly not
well, i think u will 😉
i shouldve already had one
yea, u should, but u still can
idk
i heard they wanna change spawn rates
make them like way more rare now that rancho is out
well.. thats unfair, since many already got one
big boy 😉
well its what i heard, from lots of people. they said theres a bug
yeah thats my bugged great one
is that on rancho?
yeah that was way before the rancho update
i see
its fixed now
except multiplayer
in multiplayer u cant get a great one
unless ur host
well, u found him once, u can do it again.. i saw one dude have 5
like unless its your map
i dont care for hunting multi anyways
i wanted to server hop for one but EW threw that out the door which is garbo
i do i love multiplayer hunting thats how i have got hundreds and hundreds of diamonds
its the only way to get 10+ diamonds in a day really
yea, i can understand that.. im just gonna hunt my own map for the GO
yea well i just wanted to increase the ods
ofc, i have to since multi doesnt work
odds
considering they ignored content creators about the issue
well, at least hunter support ignored it
i reported great ones turning into 5s, lv3s, etc for many months to them
and they said "great ones are working 100% fine"
i think they have problems fixing it, not ignoring it
and that it came directly from the development team
no they said they were 100 percent fine
even 1 month before rancho dropped they told me they had 0 issues
with great ones
ok.. thats weird, since everyone know they were not lol
i called gary out
after rancho dropped
and he apologized since they gave me so much incorrect info
the devs didnt know cuz thehunter support refused to pass any of that info through from what i seen. i have all their support tickets still
honestly i think they mainly found out it was goinng on through discord
thats possible
i dont really know much about it.. i play other games too, so i dont hunt for long periods when im hooked on a different game
but i always come back 😉
i feel if they make the great ones so rare its unheard of almost it ruins it
for the people like me, and teflon who is typing
who got bugged ones
and deserve real ones
i get that it should be rare, and hard to find, but if ur 7k kills in the grind, then its way too much..
i feel like there should be a limit.. not everyone has the time to play that much
And not everyone will get one
Wouldnt be worth having if everyone had one
well no but it still be something grindable
not something so rare that literally 10 people a month get one regardless of thousands and thousands being shot
weird how some content creaters find one on rancho, and then go to layton and find one right away..
ikr
but yea.. im gonna be patient about it.. im sure i will find one..
if i get the job im trying to get its gonna be 12 hours every day except one day, so 60 hours a week night shift
so during the day im gonna be sleeping, wake up eat dinner then go to work
and my chances of getting a great one then? almost 0%
well, all i can say is good luck 🙂 hope u find one in the end
thanks me too
Im as blown away as you, seeing ron get a second one is honestly why I checked mine
As far as i know its just being looked into but its not confirmed if there is actually an issue yet
haha, i saw ur video.. damn thats lucky 🙂 congrats 🙂
i didnt mean thats there is something "fishy" going on.. there is probably non content creators that have done it too
Thanks lol, i have heard a few other people say they had one without killing any deer too. Seems like that might be a bug
Nah i know man i wasnt saying you were lol
watchin urs and ron's vid's made me go layton, spending over 20 hours finding 45 zones lol
i posted a screenshot .. if u scroll up.. in case ur interested in the zones
My take is that there is a bug making them spawn off the initial spawns too much but i feel the respawn rate is fine from what i have been able to see from other players and my own grinding. There's just a lot more people hunting them right now on pc and console too. And ill take a look at it, i spent about 20 hours also on layton and got 30 zones so you are doing better than me 😂
Geez that alot of zones
i did walk through all possible spots lol.. not running, so i wouldnt spook.. that was rough.. now im on rancho again.. need a break from layton after that ^^
yea, there might be a bug making em spawn like that..
please do. it would be interesting to compare
i repost mine, so ppl dont have to scroll up
This is my zones after that 20 hours of searching, it looks like it is 31 zones actually cause i forgot to count the one the G1 was leaving from at leviathan lake
i'll compare em later, and see if i need to go back and look some places
yea for sure, there is so much ground to cover trying to fin them haha
ofc not all have the same ones
I swear i went over every inch twice and im sure im still missing 10+
it is.. they are all over the map also.. not like rancho. rancho is a walk in the park compared to layton lol
yea, u probably missing some, since i found 45
but it was really weird.. i only saw 2 big heards.. one i counted 16, and one 9.. the rest was like 3-5
i only shot 2.. they were diamonds.. my plan was to hold fire until i was done.. but i couldt leave those lol
Yea i have always had 2-5 big herds when i have searched in the past,i bet you have a couple hiding.
I did the same for mine, only 1 diamond and 1 piebald tho
yea, there is probably some i didnt find.. fut 45 zones gotta be prety close, dont u think? no rares that i could see on my map
but*
Last week i hit 3000 kills on rancho and as of this week i have done 1000 on layton since the update... No sign of one lol.. I have 4 melanistics now.. Before the rancho update i was 4 years without one.. Something has definitely changed with spawn rates
Yeah, but I just wanna know, will they really confirm it? Lol
The melas i can confirm are more common now, had 2 in early access and 1 after
Im grinding for a diamond rare, I have 1 GO but i wouldnt say no to a second
I should have 4 but thats history....
I had most of my meals before rancho tbh lol
Melas*
Once I get one diamond wt I'm probly not hunting them again until they change the racks
i do it so can you
who needs sleep right ?
If you sleep your uncultured
yeah i dont sleep much anyways never have
i think also we need to think about the reserves and how the grinds actually work out
rancho seems too easy but thats often at the start of the grind
that quickly changes
so you get often diamonds or big deer quickly then your grind actually starts
its different to layton so people just say its easier
it just starts out easier
It is very easy but I think that because they are all clutered up due to the lack of different lakes its really just a few big lakes
to start off with yes
but layton once you set up is not too bad its just finding your need zones
Anything after I would not know im console lol
yeah will be interesting to see more feedback once out on console which i hope is soon
I have faith in ew
what do u do other than youtube?
i mean i could do that and sleep for like 2-3 hours but not worth it to me. i think my health is more important
work full time job
also have 3 boys
so yeah not much time 😁
in between work edit record
time management has to be on point
when i first started youtube i was doing 12 hr days 7 days a week lol
today for eg got up played hunter classic to get footage for new video took a few hrs and then had to edit and upload it inbetween that filling out tax forms while sorting shopping out and my boys and now cooking dinner and then finally sit down to rest
not really relevant but sometimes people think just cause you youtube you waking up at 3 in afternoon doing nothing all day 😁
Lol
yeah thats true
what i wil be working with is threading pipeline for oil field, while trying to also get my great one grind in not sure exactly how it will pan out but yea
Oh god
You can tell the chat and community is tired. No one has said anything for 5 hours. That hasn't happened in like a month
or maybe its the weekend and people are just chilling
Or console quit lol
I wouldn't complain tbh. I'm really sick of the constant negativity and dev-bashing from that crowd.
devs could EASILY pull a Bugsthesda and never fix anything
I get it, there’s a lot of frustrations people have with the devs, and many of them are warranted. But the general attitude has gotten to be so toxic that ya just don’t wanna hear any more of it, even if there’s a few level-headed people with legitimate criticisms
@fallow owl I'm trying to do some math on how lucky you were to get both of your rare diamonds before your great one. I counted 6 diamond whitetail in total were there any more than that?
I got him!
Woo woo!!!!
Thx
Pretty sure 7 + 1 in multiplayer. Tbh I forget if it was 7 total or not
Two rare diamonds before a great one
You could bankrupt a casino with that luck 🤣
7 rare diamonds or normal ones
normal diamond whitetail arent too bad
7 rare ones well that is pretty special
He got an albino diamond and a piebald diamond before great one
ah 2
yeah not bad
they nice
if you put in the hrs you will get em
its mostly about time played
think grim last time i seen him post about his go for eg had like 100 diamond whitetail
I had pretty good luck simply to not get an overweight 3. Only because I spotted the other 3 did I go that way and spook the GO out of the bushes 
Back then overweight 3's were a thing? I thought that was relatively new
weird how that happens same on my GO 400m shot at a random whitetail click on its blood and find GO track at side of it lol
Only this madlad ⤴️ would take a practice shot on a max weight diamond whitetail 🤣
thats my favorite meme to come out of it all xD
I believe so. I'm accused of hacking because I never got an overweight one in the comments so idk 😂
“Oh dang, he got a great one? HAX! HAX! ALL HAX!”
Well that sucks
its the same shot great one or normal whitetail
😁
remember doing a 400m shot with a 243 on a whitetail and dd made a video about it
max weight
but actually pretty normal shot
that’s a rack i havent seen before
some of the smaller gos are cool
look really nice
bet there is way more variations than we think
ive only ever seen five i think?
I watched one of Ron’s videos from like a year ago, or close, a few weeks ago and he shot an overweight 3
drop tines are my fav
Yeah
but fixed now
Lvl 3 wt that were over 100 Kgs/220.46 Lbs
its actually cool cause when console get patch then we dont even need to think about them again
😎
^
wonder what next GO will be
As futile as it is, I'm hoping for sika
fallow is a good one
id kill for this thing in my lodge
Fallows are my second hope
i just say mulie bc theres nontypicals in classic
Take the 300 scoring rack for the moose and add those tines
Maybe a bit more mass and it would be sweet
yeah bit thin
lol, yes this! Or just give us a multimount first. Sika huddle, like the Roe, c'mon devs...its not that hard 😄
thats commitment for ya 👍🏾
still impressed on how u grind with the 7mm, and dont use zeroing perk @pliant oak 😆
yea i can see where some of them are coming from, like this holiday thing and whatever but its pretty bad lol
nah it was bugged for like 8 months or something
yeah except its impossible to find a great one in multiplayer now, which for me is kinda suckish but i can deal with it. i mainly like to server hop tbh
for those that play mp reg yeah i get it
ye
@velvet bough whys it impossible to get a go in mp?
anyone who isnt the original host of the map will see the great one as a lv3, 4, or 5
just like the bugged ones
but you couldn't get it in a multiplayer hosted lobby from my understanding yeah
well i could only imagine intentional in some ways
how easy it is to share a trophy in xbox
so there's a method to save/tax your trophy and leave it for another player in a multiplayer session
wtf
it's obviously a bug and something I suggest to not get into
one thing from xbox i wish was actually patched
i don't even know how to do it in pc
wdym? u can join multiplayer
it works the same way on pc as xbox and ps4/ps5 but doing that is highly frowned upon, its cheating basicially
always was told if a multiplayer session is opened while you have a go on your map, that it bugs out
Not for u just other people
It's the reason the super-rares gallery doesn't exist anymore.
nope it will be fine for the host, just bugs out for everyone else
if its the origional host that is
Because apparently better trophies = better player?
And other players may be willing to do the same. And thus you get big trading communities
A lot of the trading is tainted with little kids scamming other little kids, see it all the time on xbox.
didnt even realize little kids play this game lol
rather them play this than cod tbh
also can 85kg estimates respawn as 100kg estimates
2nd GO tonight. Always takes me by surprise!
Yes
And a 100kg can come back as a 110kg?
Rare number #14, 4,060 kills in
i don't even get excited when someone post a GO now, this sucks
I still get excited it's still rare
Yea it's still waaaaay more rare than a diamond
I still think rare diamond lynx are better
maybe cause not so many hunt them
send all the player base after one species and guess what happens more of those turn up 😁
not many hunt lynx like that
same as fox
A rare diamond is harder to get than a GO ron
A rare GO is harder to get then a rare diamond
Anyone has a map of the rancho WT drink zones? Pls
i think that depends on the species.
obviously the reserve also
yeap, spot on 👍🏾 , they are pretty much across those 8 lakes. Zones move around when u destroy them, but always those 8 lakes
Anything can come back as anything
Yeah
@versed basin @regal cosmos thank you
I’m low level so I’m going to hunt goose until I have money for all the 16 tents and then I will start my grind
Ok thanks. I'll get back to you on how lucky you were. Not only that but you also got a ton of big rares which was also pretty lucky
as i said earlier put in the hrs you get the rares the diamonds key thing is time played
@fallow owl it is much less of odds than I thought it was. Acourding to my calculations, you had a 0.000128 percent chance of getting both of them. But that calculation is it you got them back to back so it's more like 0.000864 which is way lower than I thought it was. You had 1 in 86,400 chance of doing what you did. it was crazier than I thought 👀
That’s actually absurd 😳 What’s that based on?
funny, I'm watching Flinter right now
. In other words 1 in every (confidential information so I don't get banned) should be peibald and 1 in every (confidential information so I don't get banned) should be albino. Multiply them by each other you get 0.000128 but since you got 4 diamonds (single player in between them) the odds are 0.000864 or 86,400. I'm in school right now and this is one thing I'm very good at😂
ratios odds it doesnt always work like straight math
also a lot of the percentages of rares or whatever are based off datamined stuff which maybe incorrect
@magic idol people have went into the game files to find out the percentages. In fact it used to be out for awhile but it got taken down at some point
Besides I did it with math and not just some random guessing
Yeah because the information was gathered by mod usage, so Rule J
which, you might want to wipe that stuff before the mods slap you
Not legitimately, no
@fast ridge I would but I can't dm flinter 😢
🤦♀️
just delete the messages with the percentages
no one's allowed to share that stuff here
Is that better?
Btw how do I change my profile pic?
Ok thx
I'm trying to get my profile pic on all platforms
Ok 😂
Say, if a melanistic buck spawns in one in two thousand common whitetail spawns, that would mean one in about 2k diamonds would be a melanistic diamond
But great ones are often spawned within 30 diamonds or so if that from what I've seen.
However, a melanistic great one would be one in like 2k great ones so it's the rarest animal in the game next to albino great one
U can find that stuff out without using mods. U just have to go all the way into the code
But I haven't done that so idk the numbers
Is it the mod usage or the information itself?
Prob both tbh
It’s what I’m thinking
If GOs spawn after about 30 or so diamonds I have a long way to go lmao
Tbh personally I don't see the issue of sharing how rare something is. People already hack the game anyway
People share numbers all the time but personally I don’t take them as fact
Nah it's still RNG u could get one without even shooting a diamond too
But just going off of other people's posts
Right, but considering whatever the number is I still have a long way to go
i wouldnt get caught up in probability and mined data if its wrong it will just lead you on a wild goose chase
also many many other factors
I never said it was 100% accurate
But I know it's somewhat close
if its not 100 percent its pointless
😂 okay
its trying to debate something is true when its not
it either is or not
not being funny thats just the truth
This game is so heavily RNG based it’s natural for people to want numbers
You know nothing about math my dude
i have 170 iq
There are such thing as approximate, and estimated numbers and u can come up with something close based off of gathered information
do you know what that means
I highly doubt you have 170 IQ most people don't have a higher IQ than like 130
Like percentage wise is very very small to have one that extremely high
And IQ is based off of numerous things not just math
I just think if u had an IQ of 170, u would have something better to do than attack anyone u don't agree with in this chat
when have i ever said it
it is true
just play the game try not to make it a number simulator
have fun
im not attacking anyone im saying look think logically
people spout numbers this that but have no idea if its true
just enjoy yourself play the game
not a dice simulator
you just tried to explain basic math to me
have a good day.
well the reason was to see how insanely rare certain things are, and if u get one u really know. its not to try and figure out how many deer u have to kill or whatever cuz in the end its still RNG and can happen any time
just dont say its meaningless to do the work to figure that stuff out, when its not meaningless for us
no its not meaningless its actually interesting
just dont let it become over the actual game
or then it just becomes a dice simulator
in basic terms
to work anything out you need the actual figures
we dont have them so...its just guess work
so not accurate
which is why this whole convo started
because someone mentioned about flinters rate of rares
absolutely it should never take over the game thats true
have a great night 😁
well redpanda kinda did, but its still RNG which is what makes it interesting for me and exciting knowing how rare something is. anyway cya
poor ole know it all ron 😂😭 wouldn’t even waste my time @velvet bough
That’s my smart little Ron
well know one knows 100% for sure what any spawns are but i was making an approximate guess based on many posts, also based on before rancho in case they actually are bugged or not since no one knows that 100%. but im about 90% sure that a rare diamond wt is way more rare than a great one
i was just saying cause all them were constantly bashing dude then everyone of em on here everyday still acting like they know all 😅
lol its not as bad as it was though luckily.
true
for the most part i can feel free to chat here without really worrying about it, but used to be a not so good thing
@velvet bough
The average IQ is 100 68 percent have it
130 is very high and a 170 doesn't need to be making content for cotw to make a living. I'm sure he could find a lot more money with that IQ. lol
well, he does have a separate job. but i felt like he was saying what i was saying was meaningless which is why i said that
👍
It's all good. I was just reading previous message. U have a good one.
Took the words out of my mouth
Besides the numbers are out there and the math is right. Figuring stuff out like flinters odds is so much fun. Trying to figure out how the game works and RNG is always very interesting
maybe there is another reason for doing content like enjoyment and passion
😁
have fun enjoy yourself