🦌︴great-ones

[pliant oak]

we wont know until many months down the road once we all start grinding properly there 😁

[sly chasm]

@round kiln on rancho the whitetail have, or seem to have, a small habitat.. Whereas on layton they are spread throughout

[rugged halo]

You won’t have to wait that long. Once I get my hands on the map I will dive into the grind and figuring it out. Also, if you haven’t already. Might want to check out what I have to say about Layton whitetail in the current game state. Seems to be working for everyone on all platforms. If you do, I hope it helps get you that much closer to your great one.

[pliant oak]

what you mean about whitetail on layton ?

@rugged halo

yeah on the new map i been hammering whitetail

[rugged halo]

I did a q&a with Ladylegendxo if you want to check out the videos. It basically shares everything I have learned about the whitetail and how to work around the bugs in the current game state. After 15,000 whitetail kills one learns a lot. Lol

[pliant oak]

any short hand ?

what sticks out or you noticed

thats different that what everyone else does

kills whitetails during drinking mainly males

[rugged halo]

#1 quit doing 3-6 day time changes.

You only need to forward the time one day, and you don’t need to restart your game.

[pliant oak]

how do you know that works any differently

[rigid forge]

This may come in handy for figuring zones out

[rugged halo]

There is a lot more to getting your whitetail herds showing up and populated constantly as well. How do I know??? I’ve tried both methods over a long period of time. I’m just saying. Top content creators and streamers of CoTW are using my method and are slaying whitetail right now. Getting huge diamonds and rares pretty often @pliant oak

[pliant oak]

i made a detailed whitetail guide for the new map also

[rigid forge]

That helps too

[rugged halo]

@rigid forge I appreciate it, but I’m trying to go into the new map with no spoilers. I want to see it first hand.

[pliant oak]

the other lakes do have whitetail at but the middle one and the big one on the right seem to have more at the lakes

[rigid forge]

Fair enough

[pliant oak]

im just trying to get to what is right and wrong or hearsay

if you only doing one day forward done that since cotw was out

so thats not new

[rugged halo]

I’m pretty much myth busted a lot of ideas in the process. Trust me bro.

[pliant oak]

many people said four days previously which i said on numerous occasions i dont think time fast forwarding is a big deal as it would be easy to manipulate

what has been busted thats the thing

the thing is one day 4 days the same whitetail may spawn

so the same thing

but costs less

i havent seen anything ground breaking or proven

which is what im trying to get at

[rugged halo]

@pliant oak all your herds will spawn every day and be at your zones. If they aren’t there, you can do some work arounds to get them there.

[pliant oak]

whats that

the work around

[rugged halo]

Look man, it’s cool if you don’t want to look into the work I put together. Not here to argue. Was only trying to help. What do I know after all. Lol. Just 3 great ones.

[tribal pawn]

Not complicated and have been doing it all species for years: kill the majority of the male population on the map and they will have respawned without even closing to the menu just slaughter reset drink time and repeat nothing that hasn't already been known

[pliant oak]

im not arguing im trying to see if anything groundbreaking or real has been found out to make the process easier for all

all i personally seen is you kill more whitetail than anyone else in mostly the same way

but you spend more time than anyone else hunting

so nothing really new

i am really happy you nailed your great ones its brilliant

but literally everyone who grinds whitetails just does the same so nothing really new or beneficial has been found out recently from whats already known

some people shut game down some dont. some fast forward time some dont

i value any info you share as you put the time in

[rugged halo]

@pliant oak it seems to be working for a lot of people. It’s a little more complicated than it is to write it all down. I’m not trying to get you to click on anyone’s videos. Was just trying to help in certain situations when your whitetail start to act up. I did this grind all on Xbox with no pop resets as well. I appreciate the kind words, at this point I can see I’m not helping you get great one, only carrying on an argument. That is not what I intended. @tribal pawn Wish some would give the benefit of the doubt that hey, there may be something I’m missing, or a new method that may work better.

[tribal pawn]

From what I've seen and heard it's no different than what many of us have already been doing for years nothing against you lol

[pliant oak]

we basically want to know whats different from the normal grinding procedure which people have done since game came out

from what i seen or heard nothing really

[tribal pawn]

I've never had problems grinding any animals personally so maybe for those that do it'll help even tho I don't know what is different. I haven't even started my great one grind yet with how broken they've been for so long

[rugged halo]

Right on, y’all are awesome. Keep up the great content. Good luck out there. “A diamond a day will bring the great one your way” - Grim

[pliant oak]

hope dont think been busting ya balls thats not intended its just many do what you say for years

the only real difference is some shut game down or dont

or fast forward time or dont

[rigid forge]

Hey grim here’s something to spice things up:
Take your next GO with the muzzleloader

[pliant oak]

the rest is basically the same procedure

i wish you the best of luck hope you bag a piebald one

for the ultimate go

[rugged halo]

@rigid forge lol. You’re trying to set me up for failure already. Haha

[pliant oak]

you put the time in hope it happens soon

[rigid forge]

Nah dude, muzzleloader Minie balls actually have decent range

They’ll faceplant a red deer out to 200m

And they have the zeroing for 100, 150, 200m

[rugged halo]

@rigid forge sure you don’t want me to use the air gun or my Daisy BB gun. Lol

[rigid forge]

Muzzleloader is actually a surprisingly practical weapon for making sure that animal right in front of you falls flat on its face

[tribal pawn]

I trust the muzzloader over any gun in the game tbh

[sly chasm]

30-06 is the king of the whitey slayers

[rugged halo]

I have fired 0 rounds from the muzzle, so it would get the same results for me as using a BB gun. That’s all I’m saying. I would botch it so bad

[rigid forge]

What the M1 does to whitetails, the muzzleloader minie balls will do to a red deer

[sly chasm]

and the rhino

[rigid forge]

Hence why you use the other whitetails as target practice

[rugged halo]

Wow, may have to hit the range with the muzzle then. Just keep it on hand for when the next GO spawns

[rugged halo]

I prefer the .270 myself

[sly chasm]

muzzle loader takes 3 weeks for a follow up shot, i normally hit 3 down before they spook

[rigid forge]

But it has the pen of .30-06 poly tips and the expansion of their soft points

[sly chasm]

i found the 270 very weak almost on par with the 243

[rigid forge]

It DESTROYS red deer

Alright it doesn’t actually have the expansion of their soft points (actual stats are 40 pen, 30 expansion), but still, that’s a lotta damage

[rugged halo]

It’s held up against 15,000 whitetail in a short amount of time. So no complaints from me.

[rigid forge]

.270 is a decent rifle. Just outclassed. It’s perfectly effective for medium deer

[magic phoenix]

||338 air rifle is the superior weapon to grind with||

[sly chasm]

very rare they don't drop on the spot with the 30-06

[tribal pawn]

It has the pen of the 9.3 but with more power

[rigid forge]

There’s also the 6.5mm which is comparable to the .270 in knockdown power but is a full weight unit lighter and has a flat-as-fuck trajectory

[tribal pawn]

With the minie balls

[rigid forge]

The minie balls are NASTY little things

[magic phoenix]

Minie balls destroy anything

[tribal pawn]

They'll even 100% qk a cape with a single lung hit

[sly chasm]

until a certain distance and it drops hard.... 30-06 is effective right up to render distance

[tribal pawn]

70m and closer

[magic phoenix]

Minies should be class 9

[rigid forge]

6.5mm lacks in stopping power but it brings a light, handy rifle to the table

I personally main the Rayo

[sly chasm]

I'm not getting any whitetail until the bug fix... i have loads of spare time 😆 I have a massive red deer on cuatro that i been saving for rainy day youtube content ... still havnt managed a diamond SES Ibex... can i make them last 6 days lol

[full cave]

Was just offering an idea or a thought. Never said it was the same. I havent even played this map.

[pliant oak]

yeah i know i like that people offer views opinions and ideas it helps all by discussing different approaches

[sly chasm]

Well the red deer is found, killed and on youtube already.... What next? 😆

[full cave]

Go for the diamond grand slam next

[round kiln]

imagine finding a lvl 3 and not being able to spot it so you know its there but dont know if its big or not and it’s just a pain in the ass because you cant find it again after hours of searching and when you finally leave to go to another map it reappears

i wonder who that could be

[slim pollen]

Do GO's only spawn upon animal respawns or can you start the game and just have one on your map?

[full cave]

If you started a totally fresh map it could be there. If not then it would come from a respawn

[pliant oak]

no one actually knows if it can be there without a kill

its most likely off a respawn unless the whole system is just random

[full cave]

isnt that a mod

refer to

[analog flower]

#📜︴rules J) I will not share images of, or discuss cheats, hacks or Mods. This ruins the game for others.

[fallow owl]

No one can be 100% certain, but I recall a number of GOs killed right after Te Awaroa and the whitetail pop reset, (some saying their first hunt on Layton after the reset) which would imply that a respawn isn’t required.

[rigid forge]

perhaps the great one spawns in place of a diamond, which could explain the initial spawn great ones

[fallow owl]

I would assume that’s the case actually

[tribal pawn]

Think they said great ones are just a another version of a diamond

So should be

[rigid forge]

yeah, so that's the most likely explanation for that

kinda like an independent RNG that checks if a diamond WT spawns, then rolls the dice and if it lands on a certain number, that diamond instead spawns as a great one

[pliant oak]

seen one guy in here say that then asked if killed any whitetail yeah a few

never seen anyone prove they killed a GO legit off no respawn

i think basically the game looks at what you have then replaces with something similar. if its a diamond shot or on map maybe it thinks ok let stick in a great one

this is why i thought it maybe a good idea to keep diamonds on map shoot the others

but who does that ?

😁

infact that would actually prove if its random or on a system

[sly chasm]

Since te awaroa all pop resets count as kills

When you do a pop reset now the pop file is written with a full maps worth of kills

[iron valve]

If u abuse pop resets ur cheating

[rigid forge]

agreed. if you do it every once in a while, like every few months or so, i dont have too much issue. but doing it every play session is just plain cheating

[full cave]

Agreed. Even at that unless its a game breaking issue,then you're "cutting corners" so to speak. IMO everybody should have to play like console players and only get to reset pop when EW forces it upon us. But everybody plays different. Some like to cheat,others play honest. To each their own

[sly chasm]

My pop files are very mature and have a very good algorithm.. I wouldnt dare reset after all this time.... I think all new files should have 0 diamonds...

[wet bridge]

Only 50 whitetail into my great one grind and I get a level 3 melanistic whitetail troll 😶

[somber turret]

Daaaaaamn you pretty much almost got something more rare then the great one

[wet bridge]

😂 I know. It’s unfortunate it was a troll

[rigid forge]

Hey, you still got a GIANT melanistic out of it

[wet bridge]

It was no matter what a troll because the score only went to 253

Top estimate I mean

Hell yea

[rigid forge]

That’s still a fucking monster tho

It being a melanistic just makes it that much better

[wet bridge]

Can’t wait to get the great one and make a multimount wit it

[sly chasm]

after 8000 kills i only have a mela female

[wet bridge]

Dang that’s unfortunate

[jovial snow]

i would take mela diamond instead of great one any day

[wet bridge]

Me too. It’s why it’s so upsetting

[jovial snow]

yet so lucky 😄

i havent seen a mela at all

i mean i feel your pain, but at the end of the day it is still an awesome trophy that very few have 😉

[wet bridge]

True

[past sleet]

Does anyone know when the new map comes to console will the white tails get a pop reset?

[silk moon]

The new map is sometime in July for console and I don’t know if whitetail will get a pop reset.

[tame solar]

Im buying thousands of 30-06 ammo. Gotta get ready for mexico

[fallow owl]

It was the devs pop reset to change the whitetail scoring, or is that what you’re referring to?

[fallow owl]

There were several of such things. Shouldn’t matter really. If he’s not on your map, gotta kill more

[tame solar]

Is the plan to get another great one on mexico?

I'm pretty sure that Teflon is saying how the pop reset is basically like getting a respawn of every single deer

[iron valve]

I feel like that's everyone's plan

[tame solar]

I currently have 2.1 mil so maybe 500k will be put into bullets. I already have 2k

[fallow owl]

I don’t know yet. I want another. I’ll be checking to see how Mexico is for grinding them fairly soon. Mondays video I think it is. I intend to get a diamond of everything on Mexico before I worry about another

[tame solar]

That's true but It shouldn't take to long

[iron valve]

Cant wait for the console version to come out I'm ready to go sell my soul again for a 2nd GO

[tame solar]

Seems like a bit much don't ya think

[iron valve]

Having to kill 2k whitetail seems like a bit much dont ya think 😂

Gotta hope I get lucky again

[tame solar]

No that's not a ton

10k whitetail is a lot

[iron valve]

Fair play

[pliant oak]

already on the grind at mexico and doing layton still at same time

comparing them seeing whats similar.

mexico will start off fast and you can grind a few hundred with zones set up far quicker than layton then it drops off. you have larger groups in fewer places at rancho compared to layton with fewer big groups and more spread out

[iron valve]

Good to know

[acoustic cedar]

Just shot my 4th melanistic buck 🙈

Got back on the grind today

[somber turret]

Daaaaaamn congratulations

[pliant oak]

i just got a massive diamond off a respawn. so nice when it comes back round 😁

[jovial snow]

@acoustic cedar how many kills? 😄

[acoustic cedar]

Approximately 3500 ish on my 2nd grind (3/4 melanistics) plus 800 on my 1st grind when I got the 1st melanistic lol

Sooo in total like 4300 ish roughly

[pliant oak]

im starting to think maybe there is differences between console and pc

grim was saying for eg you dont need to close game or...fast forward more than a day but today and before that ive been trying this and my whitetail males just dont respawn back after one day. or if hunting pressure is on the areas

also the numbers of whitetail people kill on pc is often far lower than console.

pc id say most people would avg maybe 10 15 males per hr. some on console are getting 300+ a day

so unless they not sleeping....😁

probably double what a avg pc user gets

[sly trout]

Pretty sure the drop rate for diamonds on console is double that for PC

Not sure about GO

[acoustic cedar]

I’m getting those big numbers on pc

If I go hard I can easily shoot 150-300 in a day

Been off the grind for a few days but that’s what I was killing on average

[sly chasm]

Im on PC.. If i play all day i can get close on 300 but i dont rush... I'm doing other things at the same time... I think i've played 18hrs a few times and could have easilily done 500 if i wasnt up to other stuff...

[pliant oak]

damn thats hardcore lol

its great to see what people are getting so we can compare

is that actually counting them all and on non modded game telflon ?

@sly chasm

[sly chasm]

Im not modded but i keep count

[acoustic cedar]

Yeah I go pretty hardcore on the days that I grind as well

[pliant oak]

yeah i see you grim and others are hammering grinding hard

[acoustic cedar]

Lol yeah trying my best

I’d be happy with a GO or a rare diamond honestly- I still have no rare diamonds 🙈

[pliant oak]

yeah mela diamond would be amazing

[rigid forge]

any rare diamond animal is pretty sweet, especially predators

[wet bridge]

Lol yea just got trolled with a mela level 3 @pliant oak

[rigid forge]

one of those simultaneous "heck yeah!" and "are you fucking serious?" moments

[wet bridge]

Seriously lol

[somber turret]

A rare diamond huddle would be absolutely amazing

Piebald albino and melanistic

I don't know which one would be more rare that or a rare great one

[wet bridge]

I would like an albino, mela, and great one mount

[hazy raft]

have there been any more great ones released besides whitetail

[rigid forge]

no

[somber turret]

No

I want a great one moose

6-700 score moose would be amazing

[sly chasm]

So as i understand it the chance of a piebald whitetail is 0.16% albino 0.08% and melanistic 0.04%...the fact that i've killed 8000 and dont have a diamond rare and have spawned 2 great ones... I would suggest that any diamond rare whitetail is quite a bit rarer than a great one..

I have a piebald that is 240's and an albino that is 220's...total 20+ piebalds and 11 albinos.... i dont even have 1 melanistic buck

[sly chasm]

What would make a moose great though.. As suggested before it could just be a certain colouration or a deformity.. The idea behind the great one might not necessarily be about size for all species... It could just be about uniqueness...

[somber turret]

Special rack and size?

[sly chasm]

If the racks were any bigger it would just be ridiculous looking..

Most of the diamond size animals are already as big as they can be without becoming stupid looking

Some already look stupid 😂😂

[somber turret]

Non-typical large moose?

[sly trout]

this should go in #🥩︴irl-hunting but that is an amazing kill. congrats

what state?

[somber turret]

No no

I didn't get them showing example of what the great one moose could be

@sly trout

If they put it in the game

As in the conversation above the pictures

[fringe parrot]

i don’t even want to know how 2-3 people even carried the rack out let alone meat

[somber turret]

I would have to think either horses multiple trips or quads

[fringe parrot]

more than likely horses

[dawn tide]

A lot of people I know use off road vehicles like ATVs

[fringe parrot]

it just doesn’t seem to me that those would be viable in steep terrain

guess it’s not to steep in alaska tho

not like colorado i wouldn’t think

[dawn tide]

It depends where you are but most people hunt near the road

[fringe parrot]

yeah

i’m pretty sure people use horses for elk hunting in colorado

[dawn tide]

You can do that here I just don't know many people who do

Most people in Alaska hunt near the roads and I believe only 20% road Alaska has roads

[velvet bough]

So trying grims strategy I haven't had any luck even spawning a diamond (already checked all zones on the map) reason is, 5 of my 10 zones turned doe only. What do I do about that. Literally turned doe only in 2 runs when only shooting 2 bucks at a time

And I do want to get one on layton because when rancho comes out they Gon pop out like crazy

[iron valve]

Try ur own strategy one strategy doesn't work for all

[velvet bough]

This strategy has been proven to work but I don't understand what I'm doing wrong

[iron valve]

The GO is luck based one strategy isnt better than another

[velvet bough]

Ok whatever you say

[iron valve]

If u only have 10 zones then go find more

[velvet bough]

Even tho he has 4 of them

I have way more than 10 zones

But he only uses 10

[iron valve]

He also has a map completely set up and knows how to use it u gotta learn how to hunt ur own way

[velvet bough]

Ok answers from anyone else besides vivid because he obviously isnt answering my question

[iron valve]

There is no way to fix a doe only zone u either leave it or u kill them all

[velvet bough]

Well then I'd like to know how to not get doe only zones because he doesn't

[full cave]

my god

its random

[velvet bough]

I'm not gonna move my tents and tri pods every 20 mins

[full cave]

please

most of this game is

especially when it comes to respawns

you got unlucky

[velvet bough]

Define "random" sir

[full cave]

im a woman lol

[velvet bough]

Ok, ma'am

[full cave]

random as in

theres a chance it will happen to your zones no matter what you do

[velvet bough]

Then I'd like to know what grim does when it happens I didn't see it anywhere in the guides since it's like a 40 min long guide

[iron valve]

Mate we already told u it's all luck based grim has just been super lucky with his zones

[velvet bough]

It's not just luck.

Ask literally any content creator he has talked to

[full cave]

luck, stands, and good tent networks at most

[velvet bough]

It goes wayyyy beyond that

Do u know what a respawn pool is?

[iron valve]

All because grim says its different it doesnt mean it is different everything with the GO involves luck

[full cave]

not to put his efforts down, though

[iron valve]

^

[velvet bough]

Even tho he has 4 of them and at least 110 diamond whitetail

[iron valve]

If u have time and luck ur bound to get multiple GO

[velvet bough]

But u also have got to have a correct setup

And he has THE setup

[iron valve]

He has a setup every map is different

[velvet bough]

Lmao not mathematically it's not. You know each map has the same chances and same system right?

It's not a matter of tents and stands there is alot more to it

The entire algorithm comes into play

[iron valve]

If theres alot more to it then why arnt ur zones working then big guy

[velvet bough]

How the animals literally are spawning, how animals are waiting to be spawned in etc etc

[tribal pawn]

The only "strategy" with great ones is putting in alot of time

[full cave]

^

[velvet bough]

Tell that to scarecrow, ladylegend, and corpse gaming

[full cave]

i mean i trust aota's verdict

[velvet bough]

Who prob have put more hours into this game than all of you combined minus all of the above lol

[tribal pawn]

dont believe everything you hear use what works for you

[iron valve]

I have 1300 hours

[full cave]

out of curiosity, how many hours do you have?

[velvet bough]

Well his strategy isn't JUST working for him

[tribal pawn]

Coming up on 2k

[full cave]

nice

[iron valve]

U just think that since grim has 4 GO that everything he says is correct all he does is speculate

[tribal pawn]

steam says 1920 hours rn

[velvet bough]

Corpse got his great one in 4 days with grims strat. And I knew u had alot of hours cuz your a content creator too

[iron valve]

Corpse got lucky

That's the end of discussion

[velvet bough]

I've got almost 2k hours on console and I have 894 on steam

[iron valve]

I got mine in 2 weeks it's all about time and luck

[tribal pawn]

Ik several people that got them way before his "strat" with under 1000 kills

just like diamonds it just takes luck and time

[full cave]

if there was an actual way to do it in 4 days, we'd all have great ones

but there isnt

[tribal pawn]

the people with more time will almost always be the ones with more chances

[velvet bough]

Well yeah never said it wasn't possible. This strategy makes it where it's hard to make it spawn as a bugged one (yes I know it's fixed in 3 days)

[iron valve]

There is no way to stop or reduce the chances of a bugged GO 😂

[velvet bough]

I had a bugged one spawn but yeah that's true but you can't deny this is the most effective strategy.

They also have almost all been respawned after killing a diamond

[full cave]

yes i can

[velvet bough]

Which makes sense

[full cave]

and i am denying it

[velvet bough]

Yeah there is vivid but I'm not gonna argue

[iron valve]

There isnt a strategy better than another I told u earlier that some strats work better for some people over others

[velvet bough]

If you are using ONLY 10 need zones. It's pretty hard to lose the great one to the dissapearing bug (happens when restarting game)

Because all you got to do is check all 10 of your need zones before shutting off for the night. So much easier than checking 45 zones

[iron valve]

Yes and no the GO can spawn in any of ur zones

Mine spawned in a zone I hadn't checked for a week

[velvet bough]

That's not true with grims strategy the way it works is the deer only replace deer from the zones you shot out of and it has a random chance to spawn at one of those

[iron valve]

Well obviously u arnt listening to us so hopefully when grim gets on discord he will tell u 😂

[velvet bough]

Yeah I will message him since he actually knows what he is talking about.

[iron valve]

Alright man

[tribal pawn]

😂

[velvet bough]

But it's posted from ladylegend

But I just didn't see where he said anything about doe only zones

Which is what I come here to ask about and am given no help

[iron valve]

U got help u just dont wanna listen to it

[velvet bough]

I'm asking if anyone knows what grim does?

And no one answered

[iron valve]

Also that link goes against rule F

[velvet bough]

Oh can't share links here even if it's great one related?

[iron valve]

No

[velvet bough]

Let me see if I can retract it

Is it gone?

[iron valve]

Um hmm

[velvet bough]

I clicked delete but idk if it removed it

[iron valve]

It did

[velvet bough]

Alright

Just hase frustrated considering, I have every rare and diamond in the game, minus euro bison euro hare and euro rabbit. But can't figure out what I'm doing wrong ya know

There is something missing I can feel it

[full cave]

whatdya give the man with everything

classic conundrum

[iron valve]

The best thing u can do is forget about the doe zones and go use 5 new zones

[velvet bough]

I agree. And hope they don't turn doe only too

I got backup zones just in hate moving stuff around 24/7

[rugged halo]

Make sure your hunt club beta is disabled

[rigid forge]

wait wut

[velvet bough]

It has a role in solo respawns? If so I will do that

I'm currently moving setups from where my zones went doe only

[rugged halo]

Yes, turn off your hunt club beta. #1 thing I can say to everyone

[rigid forge]

lemme go do that then

[sly chasm]

My first one turned lvl4 after a restart but the second one turned lvl4 pretty much right in front of my eyes.. During the game

[velvet bough]

It says I could lose trophy lodge data tho

From turning it off

Or it would quit saving it onto the cloud whatever that means

wait i think i know why it must help the respawns work correctly cuz it will be more stable

but do i need to worry about this or not

[sly chasm]

Thats a desperate message 😂 😂 😂

OFF! 😂 😂 😂 👍

Aah please please please dont disable.. Please 🤣🤣🤣

[rugged halo]

I only turn it on if someone wants to join my lodge

[velvet bough]

im just confused if it means future trophies or not

so it wont delete anything?

as long as it doesnt delete any trophies of mine im good

[sly chasm]

Its not gonna delete anything

[rugged halo]

I don’t have a problem putting my trophies in. Take what I say with a grain of salt. I am no expert on this game, and at the end of the day it is just RNG based.

[velvet bough]

yeah it is RNG based i am just trying to make sure im doing this right tho lol

[rugged halo]

Right on blitz

[jovial snow]

can't you understand it already..there is no one right way..

[rugged halo]

So I got “lucky” again tonight. I love the haters. I was simply trying to help players out. Never said my way was the only way. This makes #4 live with some of the top content creators watching. @iron valve

[rigid forge]

imo one of the big issues with the COTW community is the "follow the leader" mentality. i think people just see "hey! this guy got a great one! imma do exactly what they did!" without ever refining it and adapting it to their own playstyle. like, with my lynx grind, i initially did stuff that i was told, but i've since diverged onto my own path and have heavily optimized the grinding setup and routine based on my own preferences and experiences

[velvet bough]

i know right. and absolutely there is no only way and what i was saying is this is likely the meta now so i wanted to do it.

question tho is it ok if there is one buck and 3 or 4 does, to shoot the buck from that herd? @rugged halo

[rugged halo]

That is okay

[velvet bough]

ight

still doing 2 max tho

[iron valve]

And how exactly does the hunt club beta effect anything

[velvet bough]

idk but when i turned it it off and went to those zones that were doe only i had bucks respawn somehow

even tho i had reset the game before

[iron valve]

Wierd

[rigid forge]

bye bye hunt club beta then

@rugged halo btw congrats on No. 4!

[iron valve]

^

[velvet bough]

i know it does have effects on stability

so i think if the game is more stable it could help the game keep up with the respawns fast enough to where it doesnt bug out maybe?

[rigid forge]

maybe?

[iron valve]

Dont know which Is why I'm not gonna do it if the games says it can effect trophy lodges then I'm not gonna risk it

[rigid forge]

i backed up my save just in case

[velvet bough]

yeah u can just keep a copy of save files if ur on pc

[rigid forge]

as ive done like 26 times now, good grief this folder is getting big

[iron valve]

I'm not on pc so ima just keep doing me 😂

[rigid forge]

game is on sale on pc rn

if u wanna switch, nows the time

[iron valve]

I dont have the money for a pc nor do I have the room

[rigid forge]

fair enough

[velvet bough]

well i play on a laptop lol

[iron valve]

I just got my ps4 with a flat screen tv 😂

[velvet bough]

i dont have the room for a bulky pc setup as well

[rugged halo]

@iron valve it shouldn’t effect anything. It can only help. For some reason the bugs in the beta actually mess with your population and also can mess with your menus. It definitely can on consoles. It’s just a suggestion. Not sure where the ill will came from toward me, but if I offended you in anyway, I am truly sorry bro.

[velvet bough]

ik it bugged hard af for me on xbox

[rugged halo]

Thank you

[iron valve]

I never said u offended me in any way I was just saying that people shouldn't follow ur every word like ur the Cotw god if that makes sense

[velvet bough]

you are right on that vivid and i wasnt also trying to make it seem that way

[iron valve]

Ur fine

[velvet bough]

i am just fed up w the doe only zones and tryna figure out what to do i figured id ask him or ask if someone knows what he does for that situation

but hunter club beta may fix this thing

[full cave]

embody doe slayer

thats what id do

[velvet bough]

thats what i used to do

[iron valve]

I had doe only zones pop up in the beginning of my grind but I havnt had one since then

[rugged halo]

Never wanted any spotlight, was just trying to give some tactics that work for me. If you add my kills and divide them by all my great ones (bugged one included) they average about every 2800 deer for me. But that’s just from my end. That is nothing set in stone.

@iron valve just thought that was an interesting stat.

[velvet bough]

i think thats about right from most peoples experience thats when i got my bugged one

[jovial snow]

how do you know the hunt club messes with your population?

[iron valve]

That's just how it seems

[rugged halo]

@jovial snow turn it off and experience the difference if indeed your population is already hurting. I have literally watch my son not have menu options like he should have, told him to disable it and bam, he had all the menu options available.

[velvet bough]

also i reset my population to fix my africa map that broke and checked my layton and the bugged one was there

[rugged halo]

If your zones keep getting depleted and not repopulating constantly, and your hunt club beta is on. I seriously suggest turning it off.

One can only try before judging something. Just saying

[jovial snow]

i don't have any problems with my zones so that's why I am asking

[velvet bough]

ever have that multiplayer bug where you go back to solo and it corrupts your map population?

thats y i had to reset population that time

[rugged halo]

Then it’s not a problem for you, most of my experience is Xbox related. So if you are on pc, then this suggestion may not apply @jovial snow

[velvet bough]

pop resets doesnt fix how the animals spawn tho so i think disabling hunter club beta helps

[full cave]

can anyhting bad happen to my data if i turn it off?

[jovial snow]

Don't get me wrong. It's really an achievement what you have accomplished, but it'is mostly due to a combination of only grinding whitetail, good setups and luck. I don't think other stuff is related to getting a great one. gz on your latest 🙂 @rugged halo

[full cave]

i just wanna test his theory

probably wont turn it off

[velvet bough]

i think its just to do with cloud save

so like if ur files got corrupted whatever you got put in the lodge wouldnt be save

d

because it wasnt saved to cloud

if ur on pc its not a prob at least

[acoustic cedar]

I’m about to spend a day grinding them hard again- hopefully get to around 4K kills in. Let’s hope maybe today I get lucky! 😅

[velvet bough]

also u know how i said i had bucks in one of my doe only zones?? i left and came back and they dissapeared its doe only again. didnt even shoot any from this herd

there was a lv1 and a lv2 with these a few mins ago

[iron valve]

Do u still have the beta off?

[velvet bough]

yep

no idea what happened

[iron valve]

Well then the beta may not be the problem

[velvet bough]

well this wasnt a respawn issue tho, these ones flat out dissapeared literally lol.

its hard to tell

[sly chasm]

the theory is that the less crap the game has to process the smoother it will run

[velvet bough]

yea basicially

[velvet bough]

had discovered a new zone, 3 max weight estimate bucks in it. shot 2 of them poof gone. lost 2 other zones again too

so im waiting for mexico since layton is #broken

[keen oar]

congrats grim, you are the hardcore hunter

[iron valve]

Never heard of someones deer getting deleted

[velvet bough]

idk whats going on w the

them

this is where the herd was orig drinking at

shot 2 of the 4 bucks, came back next run and not a trace

also those deer didnt arrive to that zone until 14:00

[iron valve]

Wheres that at

[velvet bough]

on the rive

r

[sly trout]

you try callers to see if the bucks were just tucked back into the trees?

[iron valve]

Hmm weird I've never seen them drink that far off

[velvet bough]

yep

[iron valve]

Ur layton does appear to have some problems

[velvet bough]

i had a tripod setup there

and i got in the tripod and spammed the caller

same thing happened to one of my other zones

[sly trout]

idk. only time i've had a zone go doe only is when I've shot the bucks out of it, and shot does some other place around the same time
guess it's possible one of your files is corrupt or something

i would try shooting 2 of the does and then come back a few days later and see what happens

[rugged halo]

Thank you

[velvet bough]

one of my friends im in a call with is having the same exact issues as me and i know its bugged and not a corrupted file cuz if it was then my game wouldnt even start up

[acoustic cedar]

Yeah big congrats! I just had a 99kg buck so hoping I might get lucky! 😅

[velvet bough]

i had a pop file corrupt a while back and it was bad i almost lost everything cuz i didnt know what was wrong

i mean when they fix the map layton wont be as bad when u can hunt the entire map

and not have to worry about one spawning in bugged

[rugged halo]

Thank you so much, I’ve been overly impressed with your grind and hope you get number two soon. Good luck today

[acoustic cedar]

Oh thank you so much! I really appreciate that! Thank you! 😊😊😊

[rugged halo]

Absolutely. Wish I could watch your process, but I’ve been tracking your progress in discord. Big props to you.

[acoustic cedar]

Thank you so much! I’m at 16 diamonds and about 3500 kills for this 2nd grind now- trying to push it hard today! 😄

[rugged halo]

Wow, I think you are on the verge of number two for sure. 🤞

[velvet bough]

i tried pushing hard but ive had 10 need zones turn doe only/dissapear off my map entirely without a trace im done moving tripods around

i even had backup zones that i 100% know had bucks in them turn doe only

[acoustic cedar]

I hope so! 🤞

[solar notch]

I have them doing this on not just layton

[acoustic cedar]

Just got my 2nd lvl 3 today

250-291 estimate 😅

252 rip but 95kg

[rugged halo]

🔥 🔥 🔥

[acoustic cedar]

Aha hopefully this is gonna lead to good things 👀

[pliant oak]

its a bit broad to say his strategy we all have been doing literally the same thing since great ones came out

also hunt club beta has nothing to do with respawns

the reason people turn it off is it can cause crashes

[acoustic cedar]

Well more than one person had said it’s affecting their gameplay now

In terms of not just crashing

[pliant oak]

it can cause crashes

[acoustic cedar]

Yeah I mean not just crashes

[pliant oak]

it has nothing to do with spawning animals

[acoustic cedar]

Well it was being talked about in Jaxy Beards the other day too

So

[pliant oak]

talked about doesnt mean true

[acoustic cedar]

I’m interested in maybe if it is affecting something

Didn’t say it does

[pliant oak]

someone could get a great one eating ceral then say try cornflakes i got one

[acoustic cedar]

That’s a little bit different but ok

[pliant oak]

with proof i believe what people say but often its just hearsay

not saying that in a wrong way just want to see actual proof of what is truth

[acoustic cedar]

Yeah I get that but What I’m trying to say is more people seem to be saying the same thing re it possibly affecting them

[pliant oak]

it maybe effecting them i have it off as well not for anything to do with gameplay reasons though

just cause it may cause a crash now and then

[acoustic cedar]

That’s all I was saying before literally

[pliant oak]

didnt mean you it was said earlier

about 150 posts up 😁

i love peoples ideas theories on great ones but me personally would like to know stone cold methods with proof that way it helps all

with hearsay and how long it can take to get one or if even at all anything thats not right can cause extra time and energy wasted

would actually be cool to have like a sticked what may work thread or list

which could be useful

hows your grind going mel @acoustic cedar last thing i seen you say was it yesterday you had a break

[acoustic cedar]

2x level 3s today, 1 was diamond and 99kg the other was a 95kg troll

But I’ve got the whole day to go yet so fingers crossed

[pliant oak]

damn you on a roll i had a 99+ kg one yesterday

was weird could kinda tell something was changing as it kinda went dead then restarted time and it was there

cup a tea then back grinding try and bag another hundred whitetail 😂

[acoustic cedar]

Sounds good- I’m hoping to down 300 ish

[pliant oak]

i wish i could get that many a day

maybe with no sleep 😁

[acoustic cedar]

Aha yeah it’s a lot of work

[pliant oak]

i think i get about 10 -12 a hr

not full sweat mode

[sly chasm]

i can do about 30-40 an hour (edit it's not an average)

[pliant oak]

thats some going

how many are you shooting at each zone

[sly chasm]

thats full tilt grind... normally about 20 an hour though.

[sly chasm]

2 or 3 from a stand usually

sometimes i wipe everything and then i have to spend a day or so establishing new comfortable zones

i don't like the idea of keeping the same zones for too long

it gets very boring too

[iron valve]

Indeed

At least with mexico u can rotate between maps when u get bored

[pliant oak]

you can swap between the two and it will be refreshing

[full cave]

or i could just hope to stumble across a go one day

you never know

id be accused of hacking tho 😐

[acoustic cedar]

My problem is I start feeling like I’m not doing it right etc etc and then I start worrying. It gets better when I see a lvl 3 but I’m like am I good enough to get another one 😅

Grims words of encouragement today helped a lot though

Idk why I just feel like it might take a few thousand more kills

Funny thing- this run I’m noticing most of my big lvl 2s are weighing over 90kg

Normally they’re like 85-89kg for me

Sooo maybe good things happening?

[pliant oak]

good luck

[acoustic cedar]

Thank you- I need it lol

[acoustic cedar]

Just found my 3rd lvl 3 today

247-288

261 diamond

Not bad

[pliant oak]

i just had a level 3 troll spawn off a massive heavy two in the same group next restart

few of my zones moved after my diamond 3 yesterday one was a really good zone as well. dont mind bad ones moving but really good ones are a bit gutting. 😁

[acoustic cedar]

Nice but yeah losing good zones sucks

[wet bridge]

Is my luck horrible? I’ve been hunting my Layton for about three days and have found about 8 zones and have now been hunting those zones for a minute but yesterday every single zone I had just disappeared. Not from hunting pressure

[velvet bough]

Layton zones are absolutely broken

Just entirely broke

I have 30 need zones but it doesn't matter

They all dissapear after literally one or two runs no matter what. It's trash

[wet bridge]

So annoying. I just wanna be able the grind and get the great one but the game won’t let me lol

[velvet bough]

By the time I get one everyone will have one and it won't mean anything

[sly chasm]

@velvet bough could be worse you could have had 2 or 3 on your map and they all turned into lvl4's

[velvet bough]

i had one turn bugged

id like to know why the devs ignore the issues with layton

well, thehunter support does

[pliant oak]

the problem is some people dont play legit then say my 3s or GO turned into 4s or 5s. which muddles legit issues

so they have to try and sift through legit stuff and people using mods

a common issue of people trying to cheat GOnes is they turn into level 4s or 5s.

so while there is legit issues imagine the non legit ones that tie up valuable time and effort.

hoping at some point a anticheat comes in. this would solve much of it

also a tagging system for Great ones would be good as it would stop people duping swapping .

[velvet bough]

it also happens any time you reset the game after it spawns

i really realllly hope anticheat comes in

[velvet bough]

support has been notorious for kinda just ignoring these issues i mean they tried saying great ones were 100% fine, this entire time just ignoring what was happening to our content creators and now we have a fix next update for them

and it makes me just not want to report it to them and leave it to content creators to possibly pass information forward so they actually know

[pliant oak]

they work hard to make fixes but as above its not easy sifting through issues which maybe not the games fault.

real issues yeah i hope all are solved.

[velvet bough]

well from what ive heard from a couple other content creators and their mods, and the mods in crows channel (which i am one of)they dont think things like whitetail zones not working is important and dont pass it on. which is why people like tk are like what ive never heard that issue before, its cuz support doesnt even tell them

the team that actually fixes the bugs does a very good job but the team that reports them to the team that fixes them is lacking

i sent them a video of a lynx spinning in circles, and a video of me falling through ice on medved and they said "thats just how the game is designed"

[rigid forge]

lynx spinning in circles, i can deal with that. but falling through the ice on medved is unacceptable

[pliant oak]

i doubt they just said thats just how the game is designed

[velvet bough]

i showed it to scarecrow so he actually knows but

you guys just think i lie

[pliant oak]

i dont think anything i just go on what i can see to be true ( basically proven )

[rigid forge]

ive fallen right through the ice on medved several times

and its super annoying

[velvet bough]

well beleive what you wanna beleive i dont care but i have their support ticket

after that i quit with them

i replied with how is a lynx spinning in circles for the entire drink zone intentional

[pliant oak]

so you sent a video of you falling through the ice and a lynx spinning in circles and the response was its how the game is designed ?

wording means everything

[velvet bough]

yeah along with some other things thats always said in every ticket. let me go and find the ticket an actually quote it

[pliant oak]

exact response is the key just taking parts

isnt accurate

[velvet bough]

"i am afraid that is how the game is designed"

so same thing

and they said to move closer to it but the thing is on medved im gonna take any shot i can get considering brush

in short im not gonna take time out of my day to make clips and report to them when thats what happens

[sly chasm]

well when i first saw my second one the first thing i did was wait for the save icon and then alt-tabbed and dragged my pop file to the desktop. if it cheating to deliberaltely avoid a bug then i'm a cheat... But thats my great one that i worked hard for and two fingers to the bug lol

once an animal spawns it is meant to remain and thats the long and the short of it!

[rugged halo]

@pliant oak the hunt club beta bugs seem to affect console players more so than pc players. At least that is what I have noticed. I know you want hard evidence, but can you truly get that in this game? I have always stated that I can only speak for Xbox and my game state. Everything I say or share should always be taken with a grain of salt. But bro, I’ve killed 4 not including my bugged 1. I know of 5 others who have since shot a GO as well. Not necessarily using my exact tactics but just some of the tips at least. I know I’m probably not the first to use, try, or figure out any of these tactics as well, but I was willing to share with the community what I found was working for me at the time. (This game state) not prior updates, not future updates. I have and always will respect you bro. I appreciate the congrats in the Xbox group man, much appreciated.

[velvet bough]

do you usually have to move your tents and stuff around alot? i feel its hard to just manage 10 zones if half of them move/dissapear after one run

[acoustic cedar]

Holy I’ve just spotted another lvl 3…it’s estimate is 260-301 😱

[pliant oak]

😁

i think im about due another diamond

[acoustic cedar]

I just can’t get over the size of this one omg

He’s massive

Please be another 270+ 😅

269

98kg exactly

So that’s my 18th diamond on this grind lol

[mild olive]

Grats

[pliant oak]

that was my last one

[acoustic cedar]

Dang

My biggest is 271 lol

And that was a max weight but I’m happy with them because they look huge 😅

[mild olive]

Omg, wow

My biggest is 272.10

[pliant oak]

yeah you know when you see the big boys instantly dont even need to look 😁

[acoustic cedar]

Yup

I didn’t even spot that last one and I was like 👀!

[mild olive]

Ye, it’s really obvious

[acoustic cedar]

The thick antlered bois are the best

Just massive

[pliant oak]

50 more kills i had a troll after it think another 50 i will have a diamond or maybe better fingers crossed lol

done grinding for today

[mild olive]

The fact that some of those racks trolled a while ago is crazy

[acoustic cedar]

Good luck/fingers crossed!

I’m at like around 300 ish kills today and gonna go late tonight

[pliant oak]

you too by time we get one grim will have ten

😂

[mild olive]

That’s a lot!

Lol

[acoustic cedar]

Yeah I might stop after I get my 2nd one lol

Maybe

Who knows

The addiction might continue 👀

[mild olive]

I’d definitely stop once I get 3

[acoustic cedar]

Thing is I’m chasing that adrenaline rush again

It’s mega addicting

It’s like free lottery 😂

[iron valve]

My biggest is 271.9

[sly chasm]

Jeeesus 😂😂😂

[iron valve]

Its cheated sadly

[mild olive]

Cheats

[sly chasm]

Yeah obvs.. Its only a game too but its like a kick in the balls

The guy builds pop files for ££ i think

[rigid forge]

what a guy

[acoustic cedar]

If I saw a legit one tho I think I’d just…cease breathing

[tribal pawn]

that cash tho

[iron valve]

Idk why people cant just play the game the way it's intended

[acoustic cedar]

I only had like 800 left when I killed my 1st one lol

That first grind crippled my bank acc 😂

[sly chasm]

Ironic, i got 2m and conscious of it cos newbies think its unobtainable... This guy looks an obvious cheat cos he has so little 😂😂😂

[acoustic cedar]

And sadly because people suck and aren’t willing to actually work for stuff

[tribal pawn]

setting up grinds takes up a solid 200k everytime

[iron valve]

2m without it alerting is impossible

[acoustic cedar]

Yeah tents, tripods and it was my new pc account so I had nothing left by the end lols

Yup

[sly chasm]

Theres nothing to spend it on these days 😂😂

[iron valve]

Wrong reply but true

[velvet bough]

i gave up on layton im on srp just going for some diamonds

[acoustic cedar]

I hope you get some, you deserve it

[sly chasm]

I spent a million on stuff the other day just to bring it down lol

[velvet bough]

well diamonds are ez for me with everything except whitetail and lions pretty much

[tribal pawn]

i probably have over 50 tents spread across reserves

[sly chasm]

Same 😂

[velvet bough]

i already had 2 mela mtn lions and albino 265 mulie in the past hour or so

[acoustic cedar]

Damn

I still need a mela for this account

[velvet bough]

yea was 0.4 off diamond

[mild olive]

I’ve seen that guys YouTube channel, full of hacked stuff

[acoustic cedar]

Just got a big gold piebald!

My 2nd big one

Very happy

[velvet bough]

i dont have a piebald on pc yet except fence rack

that i didnt tax

i got a diamond axis but not exciting tbh

[acoustic cedar]

I like diamond axis honestly

[velvet bough]

want some stuff i dont already have

i like them

its wonk one too but i want a big rare one tbh

[acoustic cedar]

I’m just happy to get another big piebald most of mine are teeny

[velvet bough]

id just be happy to shoot anything good with wt

at this point

[acoustic cedar]

For sure

[velvet bough]

i did shoot some bigger bucks after i took down half my setups

wanna grind the new map for one but then people will be like well its cuz that maps easy etc

will be happy grinding layton for one tho i think once they are fixed and render isnt an issue

[iron valve]

I dont think anyone will do that as long as u post ur progression throughout the grind noone should question u

[velvet bough]

thats not what im saying tho, what im saying is the new map will be alot easier than layton

that maps zones are actually consistent

[iron valve]

Well yea but that's what people wanted so they shouldnt complain that its ezer

[velvet bough]

yeah for sure tho

but they need to fix layton

every animal on the map works 100% with their zones except wt

[jovial snow]

230 kills, 1 diamond, 1 albino - done for the day 🙂 gn guys and gals

[iron valve]

They need to fix the layton wt and the fact that some of the predators are split up by males and females on the map

[pliant oak]

maybe its cause they want you to move round the map

if every zone just say in same spot everytime it would get boring

[velvet bough]

they wouldnt purposely make them broken

[pliant oak]

well cause they change are they broken ?

[velvet bough]

pay attention to what the other content creators are saying and you will understand.

if you dont know thats pretty sad

[pliant oak]

oooh my....

[velvet bough]

scarecrow, ladylegend, flinter all have issues with how they respawn

only on layton

but on rancho they respawn fine

[pliant oak]

maybe its cause the way they respawn is different on purpose

[iron valve]

The only problem with the wt is that they can drink in bushes that's all

[velvet bough]

i mean yeah that is a possibility but TK has also said they have issues

and the fact they just dissapear after one run without deleting the need zone? whats even the point of having a "need zone" if they use it one time

[pliant oak]

yeah i think if all was clearly at water it would be better but maybe then too easy

[iron valve]

I've personally never had that happen

[velvet bough]

half my zones are in brush so idc about that but the thing is they never stay

i got a few zones that are ok but thats it

[pliant oak]

mine stay for long periods but i only shoot two

[iron valve]

U sure ur tents arnt too close?

[velvet bough]

about 300 yards

[iron valve]

Oh

That's weird then

[pliant oak]

thats the thing some use tripods some dont hunting pressure plays a part time does how many you shoot does how you manage does

so many factors

[velvet bough]

it happens to me whether i use them or not it just seems random and its happened to mel too

[pliant oak]

some people shoot only males not females some shoot all

its hard to say whats right or whats wrong

i had 4 or 5 zones swap last two days but i have hammered them over last few days

my doe zones only normally if i have say 4 or 5 i shoot 2 females and often males will then spawn in those groups

grim had what 4 gos in last 3 or 4 weeks

with same tactics so something is working

as for content creator some have shot a lot of whitetail some havent

[velvet bough]

yeah i just am annoyed at moving tripods and tents around and also ive had a weird thing where id call in whitetail and they would leave the need zone and never return

and i had bucks dissapear from herds that i never shot any bucks from that i planned on using as backup

[pliant oak]

its just a routine get into it and you dont even think much about it

as for rancho its gunna be different than hunting layton for whitetail as i said previously

4- 6 lakes but thick brush on some

few are open and easy to hunt

layton is all spread out

[velvet bough]

from what crow has showed me its pretty good hunting rancho like alot of the zones are in the open for him

and there is lots of bucks

[pliant oak]

there does seem a lot i tried to exterminate the main middle open lake i managed about 100 - 150 from there alone in a few hrs but then it go really hard

so you will probably start at super fast getting loads but super slow. it will come down to how you manage your groups zones

layton has mallards everywhere to help manage hunting pressure

so it will be interesting to see how it plays out

on layton if you have hunting pressure and say a group of five very rarely if ever will the five spawn back if any shot with hunting pressure on pc

maybe different on xbox

take hunting pressure away and if the group zone is new or not hammered the normal group size will respawn

1 purple spot 1 less will often spawn

[velvet bough]

since i use tripods tho my map stays clear of pressure alot actually

[pliant oak]

which is another factor

some use tripods some dont

[velvet bough]

and im only shooting 2 bucks max

[pliant oak]

which is why we all often get different results

so next guy says this is broken next guy gets a go

who is right

which is why its important to try and make detailed observations or details of actual things that are proven to work if ...its to help all

im glad tbh it isnt easy as that is what makes it interesting

can be frustrating for sure as well 😁

[velvet bough]

i mean ya i am glad its not too easy, however, i do know something is wrong with layton with their respawns i thought they were actually working on fixing it but may not have had time with all the other things they got to fix

[pliant oak]

there maybe issues or tweaks to be made but people are gradually making detailed plays now

[velvet bough]

i had a good solid setup til i reset pop last time to fix vurhunga

at that time i didnt have a single zone move

[pliant oak]

maybe there is inner workings with whitetail and great ones which might explain that

so if thats the case you cant compare with other zones species to say they work as they are different

[velvet bough]

well u should be able to compare them tho. other species will get great ones eventually anyway. and the zones dont have to be at the same exact locations but like, for wt its so so random you have to check every single water area

[pliant oak]

it could be different again between pc and console we just share our experiences

[velvet bough]

whereas literally every other species you find them at the same lakes

idk could be that console respawns are more stable and work betteer

like when i say "better" it actually drops animals in zones that are missing deer

[pliant oak]

hardware limitations maybe a factor vs pc so maybe something works differently

or because they are the same across consoles it works better

dunno

once you factor in all the different things thats why its hard to come up with this is how you get a great one

[velvet bough]

i dont wanna even think about a great one til my zones are consistent lol

[pliant oak]

just try different things and try and keep em there

they will move just part of the grinding

[velvet bough]

well once the great ones are fixed from dissapearing im gonna just use the whole map

[pliant oak]

also if its a doe group shoot a couple of them and keep checking that zone they may respawn as males many people just see does and either wipe em all out or leave em

[velvet bough]

one thing i had happen earlier, i was resetting my spots up right

well i seen a spot that had bucks (that was doe only before)

and then i fast traveled somewhere and came back to start grind up again (without shooting any) and the 2 bucks that i was planning on shooting entirely dissapeared

[main apex]

Lol I usually wipe all my wt male or female

[acoustic cedar]

Kept going as long as I could but it’s now 1am and I need sleep 😂 3 diamonds, 1 troll and 1 gold rare today in the end

Will give Layton one last hard push tomorrow

Don’t think it’ll happen but with the diamonds/respawns I must be doing ok I think? 😅

[acoustic cedar]

I just found my 5th melanistic buck are you kidding me 😂

One more and I’ll have two mela huddles lol

[iron valve]

I found another albino buck earlier I have yet to find a mela

[acoustic cedar]

I need one more albino then I’ll have huddles of all the rares

Albino are by far the rarest in my grind lol

[iron valve]

Nice its definitely the opposite for me

[acoustic cedar]

It’s so weird how that works lol

All that RNG

[iron valve]

I need one more albino and I can make a huddle for albino and I can do a piebald huddle

[acoustic cedar]

Awesome

I’m thinking of doing a huddle if I ever get a 2nd GO of my two GOs and then my biggest typical diamond

[iron valve]

I want to have my two GO fighting

[acoustic cedar]

See id love that but there’s no poses that really show off the antlers the way I like

[iron valve]

True

[acoustic cedar]

I wish there was a pose of them like squaring up

[iron valve]

If I could get a super rare I'd do a huddle

[acoustic cedar]

Yeah that would be awesome

[iron valve]

Ive gotten 4 lv 3 diamonds and 1 albino so far tonight

[acoustic cedar]

Oooh that’s good

[pliant oak]

time to start grinding before tomorrows release 😁

[sly chasm]

I could have 8 piebald huddles and 1 short of 4 albino huddles.... I am yet to see a melanistic buck though.... Maybe it's cos your name is Mel 😆 😆 👍

[acoustic cedar]

Lol you have a point! 😂

[iron valve]

Lol

[pliant oak]

haha . piebalds for me seem to be not too bad

i have one really big albino male and one so so level 2 male melanistic

i shot a mela female few weeks ago was gutted wasnt a male

shot probably 6 or 7 piebalds now

[iron valve]

Piebalds seem to spawn the most

[pliant oak]

my current grind i think i had two small males and a female piebald

1 mella female so albino maybe due or hopefully a massive mela one

[iron valve]

Do u shoot ur females while grinding?

[pliant oak]

i do yeah

i actually get a lot of males come back from doe groups

on into their group i should say

[iron valve]

Hmm I may have to try that out but right now I have a bunch a zones that I like to grind

[pliant oak]

so if there is a group of 4 or 5 females i will shoot two

then wait for respawn

[iron valve]

I have 2 big groups of females

[pliant oak]

sometimes it can take days but often males will get put in some of the female groups

[iron valve]

That's really cool

[pliant oak]

think its just a case of when the game wants to balance whitetails or change it up it just puts males where there is maybe spaces in groups or a new zone if there is no space

[sly chasm]

Piebalds are 0.16% chance albinos 0.08 and mela is 0.04... On those rates i should have 4 or 5 melas though 😂

For every mela you should have 2 albinos and 4 piebalds... I think mela spawns are a lot lower than stated to be fair

I think the GO is more common than a mela buck... It is in my experience 😂 😂

[pliant oak]

think out of 3000-4000 whitetail i had one mela buck and one albino male

2 suppose to be GOs

so yeah mela bucks maybe more rare percentage wise than GOs unless your name is Mel 😁

[acoustic cedar]

Lol 😂

[acoustic cedar]

Melanistic GO next (in my dreams, quite literally lmao)

[sly chasm]

if anyone gets a mela one its someone who is on mela form 😆

[wet bridge]

Why I wish my mela would have made diamond

[acoustic cedar]

I got some luck tonight, just shot my first ever diamond grey wolf after multiple trolls, and then got a 2nd within a couple minutes. Gonna go grind whitetail again now- I feel lucky 🍀😅

[pliant oak]

quick everyone rub mels head

[velvet bough]

im grinding too even tho nothing is gonna happen lol

will be happy just to get a diamond one or any rare

it would really help, if whitetail would actually arrive to the need zones

[charred pendant]

@iron valve I got my great one from shooting the females the zone it spawned into was nothing but females for like 4 runs in a row

[wet bridge]

My zones are so broken

I’ll literally finally find another zone after all mine disappeared 2 days ago. Then I’ll go ahead and set up and shoot 2 whitetail then either they don’t come back, zone disappears randomly, or no respawns

[pliant oak]

time is so important also how and where you spawn in or travel from

just now for eg a zone i manage with 4 whitetail

after changing time waited to allow them to get there ten minutes later there wasnt one there .

went somewhere else and killed a few whitetail then went back. all 4 was now there

also need zones they arent always in the same exact spot they move around the area

[velvet bough]

that wt was just running straight up the hill in the woods not even towards any lakes/rivers. my friend has also had instances where they just wander instead of going to a need zone

[iron valve]

Good to know I take the info into consideration on my next run thanks guys

[dire socket]

this guy has 4 of them

and 114 diamond whitetails

[wet bridge]

Yea his name is grim

[somber turret]

Ohhh that's his

[full cave]

When did grim get a 4th

[acoustic cedar]

Nothing tonight so I’ll continue grinding tomorrow- once I’m done exploring the new map lol

[wet bridge]

He got in like 2 days ago

[somber turret]

Oh

Well damn that's cool

[dire socket]

immq grind in the new map

[pliant oak]

it is so much fun

😁

2nd grind starts tomorrow 👀

[tame solar]

Smile all you want Ron

All the fun for you no fun for console players that had to suffer

The pain of no release date

It's hard

PC be vrooming

But hey I'll hunt turkeys while I can

Got 46 diamonds but still no diamond rare

[rugged halo]

That’s part of it indeed. Been trying to get that information out. Just some people turn the cheek to me. I hope the ones who follow you will listen. What you said is spot on Ron.

[rugged halo]

Good picture

[rugged halo]

Couple of nights ago on live twitch stream. Feeling another one soon. 🤞 Map seems to be doing good right now. a level 3 troll, and 3 diamonds have came off of it in a little over 100 kills since that 4th great one. I would t mind a 5th. Hoping to get the half and half great one rack before it’s fixed

[velvet bough]

I tried that on a few zones that the whitetail quit going to and they never did come back

[acoustic cedar]

I hope you get another soon! 😄

I’m hoping all the good diamonds and rares from my grind means that eventually another one pops up for me

[dire socket]

I was watching ur stream

[rugged halo]

Awesome, so glad you could be a part of it.

[rugged halo]

Same here, GO number 2 for you soon hopefully.

[rugged halo]

Ha, I hope so to. 🤞

[analog flower]

At this rate you'll have 3 huddles before Mexico is release on consoles 😄

[acoustic cedar]

Thank you! 😊

[rugged halo]

Facts….. lol. If only

[full cave]

everyone is talking like its already been released have i missed something

[jovial snow]

ok 1000 kills, 10 diamonds, 5 rares and 3 trolls after the level 4 i got. I think its going well 🙂

[rugged halo]

Awesome. Keep it going

[dire socket]

yo grim

are you gonna start whitetail grind on the new map

[rugged halo]

Absolutely

[tame solar]

I am seeing a problem sometimes when hunting turkey and it might be affecting whitetail as well

Sometimes when I fast travel to a tent the animals will not appear up to 15 seconds. Sometimes only half the herd will be showing

This might be affecting whitetail a little bit as well since the way whitetail and turkey respawn are so similar

[iron valve]

That has to do with render

[velvet bough]

That's normal it's just the animals taking a min to render

[acoustic cedar]

Probs gonna take a break from GO grind until the whole fur type thing is sorted

As the fix could change the fur on new trophies

[barren tendon]

I find great one RDA! I send photo, I tried to find great one 2 mouths from layton and now Rancho give it that for me!

[floral ginkgo]

A grim I fell asleep when u was streaming when u got the great one but congrats bro also it's hellsgate

And @barren tendon u got it that quick on the new map? Lucky

[jovial snow]

gz, but this really kills the grind for me

[floral ginkgo]

Shoot I can't wait to hunt it on the new map if he got it that quick it will complete my life been after it for a year 😂 just gonna wait til it out on console

[full cave]

someone else got one

too, i mean

[barren tendon]

If you speak facebook post thats me

[floral ginkgo]

Damn so u might not have to kill that much whitetail it might already be spawned on the new map🤨

[full cave]

no

in #🦌︴trophies

scroll up a bit

[floral ginkgo]

Was it on Layton?

[full cave]

no

rancho

kinda thinking spawns are messed up

[tribal pawn]

How so?

[full cave]

i mean

[floral ginkgo]

Hey I'm fine if it's like that when it comes to console I want it 😂

[full cave]

two since the map came out

is a bit extreme

more probably

thats just the ones posted here

[tribal pawn]

So because great ones might be fixed for the first time ever spawns are broke?

That's assuming those aren't hacked

[full cave]

idk

they might be

the first one posted was onlt 102kg

youd think theyd make it bigger if they really wanted to hack it in-

[keen oar]

seriously? they spawn when you gring them or they spawn after you get that map?

[pliant oak]

did you shoot any whitetail or was it just on the new map ?

[floral ginkgo]

I got 17 tents and 15 tripods gonna buy one more so I'm prepared when it comes out on Xbox

[strong thorn]

Holy damn lets get on the new map to get a GO

[velvet bough]

Tk said they spawning more frequently

Like they are being killed more than they should

If we see a bunch more tho we will know 100%

However if I kill one I'm keeping it anyway considering mine spawned broken

[rugged roost]

Maybe the new map comes with a garenteded GO and they just didn't tell us

I know that sounds far out but it could be possible

[tribal pawn]

Because they're fixed. They were never supposed to be as hard as they've been this whole time so the normal were are used to isn't what they were intended to be. You had a 2/6 chance (only 2 of the racks would spawn) for the longest time because they've been broken for so long

[velvet bough]

If u was watching the stream tho sounded like he was saying it's happening too much

But idc I'm taking one regardless if I see a second one then I will be concerned

[iron valve]

Lol

[velvet bough]

I'd be happy just to get the stupid update downloaded

[wet bridge]

When they reset whitetail spawns on console or whatever there was some people that had the great one spawn on their map automatically so of course it’ll happen to a couple people with rancho

[hidden pagoda]

🤔

I’ll have to see when I get back

[iron valve]

Pops didnt get reset

[hidden pagoda]

Ah

Still threw a specific penny into the water 🙃

[wet bridge]

I’m saying a couple months ago

[pliant oak]

thing is no one has posted getting one with proof and not shooting any other whitetail i would actually like to see this proven as its quite a big deal

[ebon valve]

Speaking facts.

[acoustic cedar]

True

Maybe I will grind them a bit then

After 4K + Layton kills I wouldn’t mind finding one again lol

I’m just concerned re the fur types thing - say you got a rare GO (unlikely I know) the patch could change it…

Idk

[iron valve]

No w we get to rotated between maps

[acoustic cedar]

I’m probably over thinking

[iron valve]

We can never get bored

[acoustic cedar]

True

Honestly I was gutted at the lodge stuff but I do love the map

The pheasants are gorgeous

I end up feeling bad for acknowledging the bugs

[iron valve]

It being a retroactive fix makes it alot better

[acoustic cedar]

Because as disappointing as it is I really wanna play

[acoustic cedar]

Yeah very true

[silk moon]

What’s the lodge stuff?

[acoustic cedar]

Fur types for WT and coyotes are bugged- multiple rares gone and fabled piebalds everywhere

[velvet bough]

If I get one on my new map (if it downloads) I will let ya know and I'm gonna assume that possibly there is something up.

[pliant oak]

stay positive so easy to be negative its a waste of life and energy to be that way

[velvet bough]

I'm not gonna be mad if I get one tho since my first one broke lol

[iron valve]

Just saw the third GO posted today I'm starting to think the spawn rate is wack

[velvet bough]

That's what I'm saying

[iron valve]

Which means GO are losing their rarity

[velvet bough]

And TK said there is high reports

[pliant oak]

source and proof of legitimacy

i asked the guy earlier who said he just got one never replied

[iron valve]

This guy has his latest harvest

[pliant oak]

on new map or old ?

[iron valve]

New

[velvet bough]

It's finally done downloading

[pliant oak]

how many kills did he have did he say ?

[iron valve]

11

[pliant oak]

interesting

thing is a cheated go is scoring similar or same

with that rack also

[iron valve]

I hope these are all cheated other wise we have a problem on our hands 😂

[spring basin]

its not cheated

if its cheated ill give u 1 million dollars

cause i killed it