Or at least as much as what classic makes
#🦌︴great-ones
vital geyser
restive briar
COTW makes a lot more money than Classic, without a doubt.
vital geyser
Yeah so i dont think thered be a reason for them to end that early, theres so much they can still do
And what are they going to do next, make another hunting game? Make that fishing game?
vital geyser
Uh im not sure how to tell
But i would say i started my current grinding routine a couple days ago
It didnt feel like many though ill tell you that
crude granite
That's promising, as I have only just started my grind and have shot about 70/80 so far. Just heard that even the diamond Whitetails were hard to get
vital geyser
Well i mean its basically out of luck because of respawns
I just have a few good tents with a couple good herds at each
One of my tents is at a feed zone
It has like 6 bucks
pliant oak
diamond whitetail are harder to get now there was a change recently in spawns and zones
full cave
Like with Classic I was told of a lighting bug, and the very next day it got patched
Meanwhile, we have moose scoring that haven't gotten diamond in who knows when
you want me to bring up the point where I contacted support about "great one whitetail" being bugged. Got an email back 2 days later asking what map this issue was on.
I'm sorry, but if they can't answer that question themselves. I can't take them seriously.
@supple tulip
vital geyser
Well ill try to at least give EW the benefit of them mayve trying to be professional or make sure theyre on the same page as your concern
But either way thays a no brainer at that point
full cave
At this point actions speak louder than words when it comes to bug fixes
vital geyser
Definitely does
It is basically applied to every company now
Them saying something doesn't really mean crap now
full cave
hopefully the next map they are working on is not only a good map, but a smooth release. I just don't see truAXIS lasting that long to most people. It's like every truRAC once you get a few diamonds and rares that's pretty much it.
vital geyser
Yeah thats basically all it is
And considering axis are on one of the worst reserves
I dont see myself sticking long to that
Im just looking forward to the bug fixes
and the new ones
And maybe a hint to the next map
full cave
I doubt we'll see a hint to the next reserve.
vital geyser
maybe axis deer are a hint to the next reserve
I am like 70% sure itll be australia/new zealand
full cave
My guess would be high 90's
pliant oak
if we get a new reserve probably will be around christmas
so obviously a tease before then
things though at the moment are not perfect conditions so who knows. fingers crossed for a nice christmas present
full cave
what would be nice is a smooth release
prisma jungle
hola alguien me puede enseñar a jugar soy nuevo
vital geyser
?
prisma jungle
si alguien puede al chat privado
full cave
😹😹😹 sorry just laughing at what the GO chat room has become. Just a place to suggest what GOs should be in the game versus showing off GOs that have been killed in the game. Makes me laugh as a former GO chaser so to speak 😹😹😹😹
Pre patch wed see some posted. Post patch,well its good to see what would make a good GO. 😹😹😹
crude granite
@full cave LOL yeah, I might as well be hunting for a unicorn 🦄 At this point I would just settle for a diamond Whitetail which seems equally elusive
junior hound
what are fabled ones?
vital geyser
Great Ones
They're a new level for animals that are supposedly extremely rare, rarer than the super rares
And they're only for whitetail as of right now
vital geyser
So what would you guys say is the average amount of WT to kill in order to get a GO
tribal pawn
1.5k it seems
full cave
I was very lucky to get mine with in 300-400 kills
tribal pawn
It would probably be alot less if they weren't so bugged
vital geyser
Sick, ill keep that in mind, i think im about 100-200 in
ocean orchid
Took me about 2-2.5k
crude granite
@ocean orchid How long ago did you get yours? The last one posted in this GO forum was on 8th Aug
The first guy to get a GO wasn't even looking for one and just came across one randomly after a 3.5 hour session! 😄
pliant oak
there were changes recently and they totally different now so the old percentages could be totally off to what you actually need now
i still hope that its looked over at some point and we have a total revamp
all we needed was phantom GO being removed. the whitetail were fine. now the whitetail arent really fun to hunt or grind and GO is basically 10x harder.
it turned the GO hunt for me into fun cant wait to have a chance to see one into not even looking for one ever. also done with whitetail hunting. whitetail hunting was...one of my favourite species if not the fav.
well atleast you can see one on social media. ....
full cave
Yep,same here @pliant oak WT are still my Fav IRL but not so much here.
vital geyser
Well I would say this is my fourth day on the grind
I think I sucked all of the WT bucks out of my map
full cave
Good luck Beta. I give u props for at least trying. I think everybody knows how I feel about EWs new version of WT hunting. I refuse to waste anymore of my real life time on this new "pipe dream" of the GO and new version of WT hunting. But again props to you and anybody whos on the quest for a GO. I understand now why that when they were introduced into the game we were given advise not to specifically chase the GO. That all makes sense to me now. Its just a waste of our time.
Its just like the lottery and from what were seeing you may actually have a better xhance at winning the lottery than any of us ever has of actually finding a GO post patch. So knowing theres suppsoed to be 6 of them in the game,do NOT even let your mind tease you into even thinking you may have a chance at collecting them all. You'll spend 60+ years chasing these guys in a "video game" with 0 chance at actually getting all 6. A crafty marketing strategy tho. I give them props for that.
I absolutely wish I could partake in the EW streams. Unfortunately here in America when they stream its always during "work hours" id love to have conversation about the GO and WT. But will never happen. But I will leave the conversation at that cause us players being unhappy about the state of the game and the flaws is perceived by the "mods here" as we're all just complainers. Another reason why I'm so turned off by this game and its reps. We players put in the hours playing the game. But if we pount out flaws were just known as "complainers" Maybe time for new "moderators". Players trying to advance the game and pointing out flaws should maybe respected versus being put down and labled as "just complaining" . Idk just my thought.
vital geyser
I very much understand what youre saying and honestly you are very much correct its basically a gamble with these things and especially since some of them dont even work
Youre basically wasting your time and for me I feel maybe I could find one or at least help my chances and eventually they will fix their zones
But I appreciate the props and Ima do what I can, sucks that this is how mods can treat part of their fanbase especially those that want to see them succeed
but until then, I will give some of my time and some of my support to this game
and hopefully they can prove themselves in the next big map release
full cave
Kudos Beta!!! Yep eventually things will get straightened out. Will take time. I understand that completely. I understand when things are changed or added it affects other aspects of the game. I'm frustrated cause the summer has revolved around the GO and SRP. SRP is amazing for the most part with exceptions that will get fixed. The GO on the other hand in my opinion has been a monumental failure this year. When they and WT get fixed I'll get over it and probably start paying the game again. But wont get over being disrespected. Ive got a business and have nevever once disrespected any client ever. We cater to the clients needs and wants so to speak. Cause after all the clients are the ones actually giving me a job. So if theyre unhapoy,well I won't be in business long. Some businesses care and apply client feedback,some dont.
vital geyser
You have a business? Thats very cool man and I hope its working well actually, but definitely understandable. it sucks to be disrespected as basically we are the people that help fuel the company and this year has definitely been somewhat disappointing with the GOs and the SRP bugs and I definitely hope that this game can get back on its feet and go back to its former glory and become more playable. Until then, though, I wish the best for your business and hopefully one day youll get to go back into the field and hunt down some WT
full cave
Yep. Of one of my trainers says a client is complaining I'm not just going to side with the trainer ans blow the clients off. There's investigation as to why the client is unhappy and we work to resolve the issue to see why thats happen I g and what we can do to improve our process and quality of the product. Its worked well and brought to light issues that have been changed and inproved the business. If its just a trainer "labeling" clients,well we just move on from that trainer So to speak. So thank you Beta!! And I truly wish ya best of luck man!! But dont make it your primary focus otjerwise you'll end up like me. I loved this game and was one of its biggest promoters. After the last several months,well I can't stand the game. But anythings possible and mayne you'll find one tomorrow!!! As for now,I'm sticking to real life hunting cause I onow that in real life the more time I dedicate to the game I pursue the greater my chances of actually succeding!! Such is life. The more you put into it the more successful you are!!!
crude granite
I really hear you guys and I am doing the same as you @vital geyser Just trying to improve my chances of getting a GO, but to be honest I would just be happy to get a Diamond one and then hunt for something else. We all love this game and you are just passionate @full cave you want the game to function like we know it could do. I think that it has really massive potential and I think that some protesting before any release of any new content is lacking but sorely needed. I would be happier to wait longer for a dlc or new content if it was tested before releasing it. It comes down to balance with a small team and new content means funds for development. EW has talent, it's just stretched and needs some injection of capital to get where it needs to. The fan base is here and really loyal, but alot lies in the next year so we will see
full cave
I absolutely wish I could partake in the EW streams. Unfortunately here in America when they stream its always during "work hours" id love to have conversation about the GO and WT. But will never happen. But I will leave the conversation at that cause us players being unhappy about the state of the game and the flaws is perceived by the "mods here" as we're all just complainers. Another reason why I'm so turned off by this game and its reps. We players put in the hours playing the game. But if we pount out flaws were just known as "complainers" Maybe time for new "moderators". Players trying to advance the game and pointing out flaws should maybe respected versus being put down and labled as "just complaining" . Idk just my thought.
@full cave they now know something is up with them
crude granite
@full cave Have they told you? Or has there been an announcement?
small meteor
This issue isnt related to the moderators, all we do is delete rude comments, and issue warnings as TK asked us to do. We just got new moderators not too long ago.
All moderators are chosen because TK trusts them. We dont "silence the people". All we do is remove rude comments. Thats literally it.
You break the rules, we issue warnings.
Me deleting a rude comment is not the same as removing your freedom of speech. some people get this mistaken. I am asked by TK and thus by EW to remove said messages. I dont delete them because i think they are wrong. Im fairly neutral in this. I just delete them because TK asked us to delete rude comments.
and as to the issue related to Whitetail Deer and Great Ones, 2 streams ago i notified TK about the change in needzones etc, he said he forwarded it to the team. So its not known if its indeed intended or a bug / glitch but TK has heard about it. @full cave @crude granite
crude granite
Thank's @small meteor 👍
full cave
@small meteor I reported the bug to the dev team about half the racks not even spawning properly in the game I was told and I quote "it will be passed on to the QA team"
support team*
sturdy niche
Remember as well folks, the GO's are supposed to be super rare and I warned everyone intensely about what would happen to you if you try dedicate your time to it, you will lose love for the game, go slightly crazy and become bitter. They are out there somewhere and as soon as you stop trying to go for it, I bet it turns up. @full cave We have have many conversations around this and I have mentioned the same thing to you.
Scrubje is correct, please by all means let us know what you think is wrong with the game, we need to know about it so we can fix it. But how you word that, is what will determine if you get a message deleted or not. We need to hear/read what is wrong, we do not need to hear/read people being rude. We are all humans here and the rules are clear, if you break them, you only have yourself to blame, not me and certainly none of the mods. Remember they are all volunteers and do not deserve to get any flack from anyone.
full cave
That is true, I just know something has to be wrong when people still kill over weight level 3 whitetail. Like some kind of error in the code perhaps.
strong thorn
Flinter still loves the game after grinding for one
but I think most people that where grinding stopped due to being hard and time consuming to get a GO
small meteor
Remember Flinter gets payed while grinding for it. He made alot of videos of all the stuff he found in between.
its his job.
magic phoenix
We should get red deer great one where it has 200+ tines
vital geyser
Been shooting a lot of max weight estimate bucks recently
I kinda like where things are heading
crude granite
Best of luck man, I am also still trying 👍
I have got my map set up just right for a great run each time
pliant oak
but I think most people that where grinding stopped due to being hard and time consuming to get a GO
@strong thorn most people stopped because it changed. the spawns changed and it became even harder. now its ten times harder than previously
too compare before change i had a over weight whitetail of 105kg at about 500 whitetail so tbh thats not that much
now id say you gunna have to spend ten times as long to do the same as the spawns are more spread out.
so whatever before is irrelevant
when the whitetail are tweaked and the gos i will go back and grind em again
full cave
Same here. And your statement is backed up by the fact that its been what 6-8 weeks since we've even seen a GO posted? Before wed see a couple a month. So that in itself just shows how much more rare the GO has become unfortunately. But hopefully WT get fixed soon and we start seeing GOs again. I really do miss hunting WT. It was very fun Pre patch. But will see what happens.
vital geyser
Well the only issue why we dont see GOs anymore is because A) WT are broken right now and B) some of their other racks are messed up too
We'd probably have a lot more GO if the Phantoms didnt exist
full cave
Yep. Point A is the main reason. And agree we dont know if all are actually spawning cause well nobodys shooting any GO. I like that theyre supposed to be rare but not like this. I'm hoping that the rarity is just an accident from the patch. If tbis is the new style of WT from now on,I'm def out. No point. Maybe someday nontypes will come which may make it interesting g again but the lack of variation is also a killer right now. Broken species with little variation equals unfun experience. 😹
Also now that diamonds are as rare as "rare fur variants" also is a game breaker for me at least.
strong thorn
I thought they would be a bit rarer than a diamond but they are as rare as a melanistic diamond
and yet
there are no mela diamonds whitetails in the #509301826869264385 like from ever
so get a mela diamond they are as rare and half as bugged
full cave
For sure. There used to be every once in a great while. But nonexistent lately. Just another indicator to their team things are just messed up. Idk. I loved the WT species and why I initially purchased the game. After getting bored on SRP and Goose hunting to me theres no reason to play as of now. GO had me hooked again but after this summers debacles have drivin me away. But thats just me.
So true!!
strong thorn
also true what you said the game gets stale if you measure success in diamonds
ocean orchid
@ocean orchid How long ago did you get yours? The last one posted in this GO forum was on 8th Aug
@crude granite I got mine on the 14th of July. So yeah quite a while ago. I remember having gotten a over 100kg diamond at like 1000 in as well.
crude granite
That's really helpful thank you! I am just going to keep trying, alot of people have gotten an over weight diamond before their actual GO
full cave
@crude granite the overweight diamonds are supposed to be the other rack variations.
crude granite
Yeah, thats the bug that needs fixing
full cave
well I emailed support literally everything they needed to know what's really happening. Lots of confusion on if they're broken, are they spawning correctly...ect
crude granite
Well are the normal Whitetail meant to spawn at over 100kg? No is the answer so if you see one with a normal diamond rack it hasn't spawned correctly. Also I don't get why everyone is complaining about the need zones moving all the time. I have plenty of them and yeah they do move sometimes but it isn't hard to find new ones. It is a hunting game after all and it gets me a bit when people want there zones never to move. I like that they do it makes it more realistic when playing. Otherwise its just an animal fps game. Set time go to zone shot all males and then repeat. That just isn't that fun for me personally 😕
vital geyser
Honestly i javent had an issue finding WT drink zones since last update
crude granite
I struggle to hunt all my zones in an hour! I get some that move a little and I get herds that stop spawning males but I always find more drink/resting zones if I follow tracks after drink times
fallow owl
I havent hit whitetail very hard since June, but most sessions I join in multiplayer that happen to be during whitetail time, I do go hunt them, and I dont really have issues finding them either, but then again, I'm not out there searching for every last zone I guess
full cave
Hard to say what the issue is. But theres an issue since its been 8 weeks since the last GO posted 🤷 Just an observation.
Pre patch we wouldve seen at least 3-4 maybe 5. Would always get/keep me excited and in the game to see one every once in a while. Tjeyre almost turning into just "myth" so to speak.
Is that enough to keep a player excited about a video game? Not this player. Esp since next gen is on its way.
full cave
well most of the reason why one hasn't been posted in a while is the game works in waves. Something gets released the hype is high. 4-6 weeks later people are looking for something new, shifting focus away from what was added previously.
fallow owl
I can see both sides of that one. Mc has a good point, there are less people out after them, thought you would think someone would trip over one in that time frame
full cave
either way. The over weight whitetail is clearly showing something is wrong.
amber rune
There really is no way that the great one is actually on the map, it’s just for people to stick to the game and grind, cause If it was in the game someone would of found it by now
full cave
If COTW goes the direction i'm hoping it goes maybe eventually i'l try for one of these guys I killed a 107kg respawn buck a few months ago and that just made me quit for good.
Just the bugs relating to the game made it really unfun so i ended up doing something that i cant talk about here.
Yea the info we "recieved" was that was left over from the initial introduction and that after patch 2 it wouldnt happen anymore. Theyre supposed to be GOs so to speak. But I'm assuming that info is a "smoke screen" being that it still happens regularly and people who've actually gotten a GO say theyve shot several overweight diamonds before their GO. Means the GO spawns off of weight and the more "overweight" diamonds have a better chance of getting one. Means it's a lie and the "mechanics" work that way bit they just dont want us to know. Only explanation since we hear ne thing but experience the opposite.
full cave
Having said that it just also may be a possibilty that the actual devs and the people "promting/pimping" the game are not on the same page? Maybe the rep was told.one thing and whats actually going on is a different thing? Thats the only explanation for the difference so to speak. Hard to say cause of the lack of transparency? Thats why when they say they wont say what species of a GO will be added to will just lead to tbis kimd of thing. Just an idea that instead of not telling anybody anything bit a GO was added maybe we have the reserve "warden" tells a story of some "legendary" species being spotted so ayers at least have an idea of they potential species involved and where or what to look for. If not for initial hint we would have no idea what species to actually look for and target. IDK just an idea.
Its just a video game after all. The last several weeks I've put in many hours of scouting and have an idea where a "giant" WT may turn up. Bit IRL the more effort I put into it the greater the chances I'll have in finding tjis trophy. If the games supposed to represent RL hunting,the more work we put into it,the greater the chances we should have of finding it oplosed to "just dont hint for it and you'll find it" strategy of EW " trophy hunting. Just my thought.
Bit until I myself "see" GOs posted consistently again,I will not chase them. Shoot diamond WT are rarer than they ever where before,just an indicator that somethings not right. A simple diamond should not be this difficult.
cerulean palm
whitetial diamonds have never been 'easy' and TK did say that if you go chasing just the GO in this it will drive you mad because of how rare it is.
strong thorn
whats the point of it being so so rare tho?
it could be as rare as a big nontyp in classic but they are way more rare and on top of that they are bugged
cerulean palm
when it was first released they said it was that rare to give the hardcore hunters something to strive towards
strong thorn
as someone that only hunts for diamonds I think that after I get one of each specie and a couple of super rares I'll focus on getting all the GOs that is only logical because they are the only trophy I'm gonna be missing so I will have to chase those GOs. So why make it so rare that makes me want to quit the game or not look for them at all?
and in five years from now people will want to get all the different variants of racks and even maybe an ultra rare
full cave
I think it should be very rare, but so rare that it makes people hate the game and get bored of it? No.
amber rune
1 per map
full cave
Yea makes no sense. And thats my point that somethings wrong. WT diamonds are even rarer than they were before.
So whats the point of chasing something thats unachievable if you chase it?
Just hunt rabbits,moose and BT if you want a WT GO?? Very strange.
And ELk,didnt mean to exclude you RE 😹😹
If anybodys apart of all the many discord is it actually a coincidence that "diamomd WT" suddenly disappeared after the update?!?!??!
cerulean palm
well they haven't disappeared...I've seen some. I think the fact the zones all got moved and theres also an issue with them deleting themselves mean the WT pops are probably pretty janky right now. hopefully that gets addressed soon since they are focusing on QOL. Also the fact that many seem to be giving up on the great one grind means less and less people are exclusively hunting them.
rocky timber
how long is a GO grind typically?
cerulean palm
varies from person to person from what i've seen but generally its 1000's of whitetail bucks being killed before an overweight 'broken' great one whitetail or a legit GO
full cave
Agree with you there brads!!! And yes theres been very,very few WT diamonds since,bit only a tiny percentage compared to before.
neon cedar
i'd like to think the 2.0 scoring system has some sort of responsibility for why those broken GOs are generated in the first place lol
cerulean palm
not 2.0 to blame as they were instigated after it was released, think there's an issue with the racks spawning correctly from what I've seen being spoken about in here
full cave
Nah. 2.0 was the best thing ever. 2.0 was introduced long before the GO. Esp since GO were seen pre patch. Something "accidentally" happened with this last patch.
rocky timber
i think they need to make weight matter again cuz i killed a 615 kilo moose that was barlly a diamond
cerulean palm
I think itll take time for them to fine tune 2.0 properly whilst there are still new truracs coming into the game
well weight still does matter, same way as classic that a heavier animal has a higher chance of spawning a large rack than a low weight animal. that still works
neon cedar
I liked a few things about 2.0 and that's it, other than that I feel like it hurt the game all-around
cerulean palm
although I think moose and roe are a bit broken atm with how they are spawning if it was recently you got it @rocky timber
full cave
I myself love 2.0 cause it scores antlers exactly the way they are in real.life so to speak. Trophies arent scored by weight with "antlered" animals in real life.
rocky timber
ya i got the moose like a hour ago
cerulean palm
yeah the moose arent making diamond as often as they should atm I'm pretty sure. so getting a diamond is quite the achievement justnow
neon cedar
I just get troll 5s with half a diamond rack and random other half
happened to my moose and just recently my first ever lv5 RM elk
full cave
Yea thats just a "trurack" issue. So annoying when that happens.
neon cedar
but I'm not really annoyed by it or anything cause I know animals can develop that way in some case in real life
rocky timber
also why is hunting prusser lvl 4 when i use a tripod??
cerulean palm
sorry to be the mod and all that but if we aint talking GO stuff shall we move to general?
full cave
Yep for sure. Bit its not as obvious in real life
neon cedar
rog
full cave
Sure!! Sorry GBB
whitetial diamonds have never been 'easy' and TK did say that if you go chasing just the GO in this it will drive you mad because of how rare it is.
@cerulean palm the thing is we aren't complaining the rarity it's the fact that half the racks don't spawn in the game. (Like I've said 10+ times and emailed support 3 of those times).
cerulean palm
@full cave you arent complaining about the rarity, others were just then. I get the rack spawning issue is present just hope they can address it with doing the QOL stuff
full cave
the whole thing about whitetail in general drinking near trees and things (which I have actually seen) not when spooked either. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
people are saying it's harder to get diamond whitetail because the whitetail were fine the way they were, not sure why time was spent fixing up a new system for them. I would think that time could have gone to more time and resources to fix more bugs.
cerulean palm
yeah, the whitetail 'fix' seemed to come kinda outta the blue, I get where you're coming from with that.
rocky timber
whats all wt drink times?
cerulean palm
go look in the #🦌︴help-and-tips pinned messages. theres one from Aarron with a pretty comprehensive spreadsheet of stuff
magic phoenix
Sometimes i feel like the whitetail you shoot the very start of layton respawns as a great one to test how youve grown as a player.
crude granite
I am currently grinding for a GO and I have just shot my first diamond after about 125 kills. Is that a lot, or is that about right? I have also had a small silver piebald male. I am now around 350 kills and am going to keep going until I either get a GO or I get an overweight one. If I do get an over weight spawn then I will put pictures in the bug report section and email support and see what happens. I think that we need an official response from EW about this as it is a great idea to have a feature like the GO in the game for hunters that want a challenge. I love the fact that they are rare and I also think that diamonds are far to common, just look at SRP! That map is just crazy. I had 5 diamonds without really trying and that isn't fun for me. I just hope that EW is looking into this as its clearly a legitimate concern from a dedicated passionate community that loves this game
neon cedar
Just all about rng at that point. I can get a single diamond and not see one for any other species for the next month lol.
pliant oak
certain species do seem harder in recent times diamond whitetail are deffo harder now than they were
im sure some adjustment will come.
you cant even compare how they were to now its that different whitetail hunting
so the old GO they should be rare isnt really applyable
as they are ten times harder now to achieve
than previously
crude granite
This is what I would like EW to clarify for us. I know weight isn't a factor in trophy size now, but normal diamonds shouldn't go above 100kg in weight? That's what we all think?
full cave
Pretty sure those are the rack variations that don’t spawn correctly
strong thorn
Sometimes i feel like the whitetail you shoot the very start of layton respawns as a great one to test how youve grown as a player.
@magic phoenix lol
Its good diamonds are harder, they used to be harder, also rares where harder, now If I focus hard enough I can get any diamond in a few hours
strong thorn
I believe the GOs where an exageration made because diamonds became so easy
Like in whitetails they could have made a diamond with 5×5 tall points and two drop tines and would be a great diamond rack but instead they modeled the diamond according to the biggest typical ever registered, so in real life its as rare or rarer than a nontyp monster
vital geyser
I really dont like how little variation WT have
Theres the small 1s with the 2 sticks out of their head
Then theres 6-8 pointers with the toothpick main beams
Then theres the 16 points
full cave
Weight still kinda affects trophy score to some extent.
vital geyser
I thinkcthe GO are fairly realistic
I mean the one with 40 some tines kinda stretches it but like
All the other racks are believable
calm reef
I saw that about a week or two ago there was a glitch were caribou females would get level ten wonder if that will be the next great one
full cave
Pretty sure those are the rack variations that don’t spawn correctly
@full cave ^
and yeah weight doesn't affect score specifically like the old scoring system, but animals are still classed by weight. For example you'll never get a diamond whitetail below 90kgs (example).
full cave
Ye
Theres still in reality minimum diamond weights though its very flexible now.
You cant have whitetail making diamond in the 80s they still need to be 94kg+
full cave
yeah
winter prawn
I found a GO after coming back from a one month break and I think its piebald and now im to scared to go for him
winter prawn
I know what I have to do but I dont know if I have the strength to do it
winter prawn
I have to learn the recurve first
magic phoenix
Why recurve tho
magic phoenix
Just shoot it
winter prawn
no
magic phoenix
Ok
winter prawn
tbh I dont really like crossbows that much
winter prawn
preciate it
magic phoenix
I hope to see it here
winter prawn
me too
magic phoenix
You will literally have a super super rare im pretty sure
crude granite
Um what! You could have the best trophy anyone has on this game!
crude granite
Did you grind for a GO before taking a break @winter prawn ?
winter prawn
a bit
magic phoenix
Ive only seen 2 GOs
winter prawn
for like a month
magic phoenix
What a coincidence that the owner of the largest cotw club on xbox has a GO
crude granite
I feel exited for you @winter prawn Have you spotted it with your binos yet just to make sure it is a GO?
magic phoenix
Yea
crude granite
if its a piebald that is
winter prawn
I think im gonna use my Longbow
the same one that got me a perfect Bison day one of SRP
crude granite
You are braver than me, but go pracrice
crude granite
Yeah, best to see if it is a rare fur type
magic phoenix
Donr mess it up like me and every frickin lvl 9 mountain lion/puma
crude granite
Well either way, good luck! See you back here later maybe with a screen shot!
Fingers crossed
winter prawn
I am going to train until I can hit it with my eyes closed
and then some
if I can get warning called by a 9 coyote and still call it in I can do this
magic phoenix
Well dont shoot with your eyes closed obviously
winter prawn
lol
magic phoenix
But seriously dont miss
winter prawn
ye
magic phoenix
if its seriously piebald you can be seriously famous in the community
winter prawn
now youre just making me nervous
magic phoenix
Sorry
winter prawn
its cool
vital geyser
Lol jus take your time theres no rush
Its a 10 that will always be on your map
I wish you the best though if this is true
strong thorn
if I can get warning called by a 9 coyote and still call it in I can do this
@winter prawn most animals are only attentive when they warning call
You can call any animal that calls you
vital geyser
Just get the deer bleet or grunt caller and sit in a bush
Or you can stalk it
@winter prawn you able to take a picture of the deer?
strong thorn
Just get the deer bleet or grunt caller and sit in a bush
@vital geyser yeah deer are dumb especially whitetails
vital geyser
Most definitely, but thats what rut does
iron valve
How did it go?
full cave
I call cap lel just sayin.
strong thorn
@winter prawn hey man where is your GO?
winter prawn
sorry i went out
its by my upper left river system on LL
I have a decent sized herd there
I havent gone back to get the veg to check yet because I know if I do im gonna end up hunting it
so ive been practicing
vital geyser
Well ill at least put faith that this is real
Unlike the last guy claiming he had a photo of one he shot
winter prawn
Ill do my best to keep yall updated
vital geyser
Is it the same rack everyone else has found or is it a different one
full cave
So where's the GO?!??!?! Or is this just another "claim" of a GO that weve seen over and over here?????
I myself will not believe until I see it. There's been so many "claims" of a GO that have just been lies. Lets see this GO.
If its on the map a screenshot will bring proof even of somebody wants to practice with a bow to kill.it.
Even if I saw one Id at least take a pic with my phone. I hope its true but so many claims in the last several months. No offense astolfo
vital geyser
No pressure but when you want to 
full cave
I'm rooting for anybody to find one Astolfo. Def good luck if youve seen one.
full cave
I haven’t seen even a screenshot yet, you’d think they’d at least post a pic of it before they kill it, but then again they might be telling the truth idk
full cave
I gave up on grinding for a great one they're too buggy for me
vital geyser
Any updates for the GO?
neon cedar
probably not
I say just yank em out of the game and don't add em back in till they are fully fixed for all platforms, would also tweak 2.0 solely for the stability of all trophy animals
full cave
No. No signs of a GO
Thats why I dont get excited after all the claims over the summer until I see a claim with proof. Could be truth,could be fallacy.
I was hoping thered be WT work done for next weeks patch. But since theyre just looking into it probably the next patch or 2. IDK whats wrong but post patch we don't see any like we did pre patch. Unless they just dialed down their spawn rates and didnt tell us. Which could be the case. Who knows. But I'm done until I see them work like before the last patch.
queen sorrel
full cave
idk...between half the racks not spawning and the new whitetail system that was put in place. Made me feel very unmotivated to grind for one. That's not because I'm "burnt out" on the great one grind. I would still love to do it for that matter. I just heavily disagree with the way whitetail work now. Drinking in places you can't see them, people claiming that the number of bucks on a given map has decreased quite a lot or even the fact that need zones don't save anymore for whatever reason that might be. Overall just not a great experience it has become.
neon cedar
I could be down with the way things are if they brought whitetail to another map in the future.
vital geyser
Im pretty sure another WT map will come down the line
And im guessing that claim about a piebald GO was false
neon cedar
Apparently someone on console has gotten a GO but I called him out on it
willow prawn
I have seen pics of GOs on Xbox
queen sorrel
What’s a GO
polar veldt
Great one
viscid cairn
@queen sorrel Great ones are mega rare whitetail deer, rarer than diamonds which only a handful of people have ever bagged
the way to differentiate them from regular whitetail deer is that they have giant antlers with dozens of tines and their difficulty rank is level 10 - fabled as opposed to whitetail diamond rank of level 3
queen sorrel
Oh ok
neon cedar
if someone on console would've gotten a GO, definitely would've somehow ended up here
tribal pawn
There has been atleast 5 from console lol
neon cedar
Has there? I just haven’t seen any lol
full cave
one should have been a piebald great one, if they were working properly since day 1
queen sorrel
Is the go a one time thing
violet schooner
No
queen sorrel
So I can shoot multiple?
charred pendant
Ive got two diamond whitetail that were over max weight and 10,000 plus whitetail harvest
I play on ps4
supple tulip
Okay do you have a screenshot of the harvest screen?
cold swallow
cold swallow
Yea
fallow owl
what platform? thats crazy
fallow owl
wait... thats 45 hours a day since cotw came out 👀 that seems difficult
cold swallow
Yea
fallow owl
thought that seemed impossible when i started thinking 😛
cold swallow
The phones will get you sometimes with auto correct
fallow owl
yeah, they do
cold swallow
I have to go find this second one. I found 2 today but I had the wrong load out.
fallow owl
oh 😮 gl!
willow prawn
Damn that GO should be in the #509301826869264385. Anyone else agree?
strong thorn
Someone got a GO and someone got a mela WT diamond
heady lintel
@cold swallow You don't happen to have a better photo do you? Perhaps a screenshot?
pliant oak
so you only played 50 hrs and got one 😁 congrats
vital geyser
Wow very nice @cold swallow
Good luck in that second one too
By chance did you mess up that GO because the session score is 100
full cave
Can we see the harvest log?
small meteor
You could take a picture of it in the lodge?
viscid cairn
did he leave or get removed?
fair urchin
@small meteor there's a new super rare in cotw trophy shots check it out
small meteor
full cave
Hmmm. IDK. Esp 2 on a map? I xould be wrong but if there's a limit of how many diamomds are on a map id imagine GOs same way. If you shoot the other one please take pic of the harvest log with time and date. Thats ultimate proof so to speak
wait... thats 45 hours a day since cotw came out 👀 that seems difficult
@fallow owl quick mafs
Just found exact same one on google
sage sparrow
Lol
fallow owl
ope 👀
full cave
Yea took 2 mins. We've seen it so many times this summer. Just like the people who tried to pass yours off as one they shot flinter
Only real proof is the harvest log with a pic
fallow owl
had a good one where someone posted it in my server and tried to claim it as their own 👀
crude granite
Why lie? People are always trying to cut out the hard work. Nice work @full cave
pliant oak
😁
viscid cairn
2 on the same map was way too good to be true too
vital geyser
Well
crude granite
There ain't no shortcut to glory my friends
vital geyser
Sucks it was a lie
full cave
Yea pretty sad. Thats why I see somebody only play 50 hours and then has not one but 2 on the map?? 😹😹😹😹
full cave
Yea I know If I shot a GO id take like 50 pics 😹 Thanks Cap Calm. I love the GO to death. Hate seeing it shamed/disrespected, whatever you want to call it when people do that
crude granite
I think I am going to make a short film when I find mine! Harvest shots, screen the whole nine yards!
Might ask Netflix if they want in! 😄
violet schooner
Wow hate it when people try and pose others trophies as their own it pisses me off and is scumy af
full cave
I think flinter has the best story so far. I mean dang the GO ran right in front of him, then he shoots a diamond whitetail for target practice, then shoots the GO with the bow
umbral stump
this update is giving me CK2 flashbacks to the white calf or whatever it was
except with more deer extinction level hunting lmao
violet schooner
@full cave I mean this one guy took one with a lever action at 30 yds
full cave
Mine was pretty simple tho, I spotted the GO from about 160 yards and sent a 30-06 fun package straight through the lungs that’s about it
crude granite
I think I am going to take it down with my bare hands!
umbral stump
last words before impaled by dear
crude granite
Worth it :)
umbral stump
tbh yeah
viscid cairn
Cut the antlers off a GO, use those as knives
umbral stump
reminds me of the picture of the moose drunk on fermented apples
and it gets stuck in a tree
moose are dangerous enough without getting drunk
violet schooner
New update go’s can die of natural causes
fallow owl
@full cave I could t have asked for a better way for that to go 😂 can’t imagine a crazier way to spot it and react
crude granite
Yeah gotta say I have watched it a few times
small meteor
he left the server
crude granite
full cave
Yea flinterns was amazing!! Esp somebody pass his own GO as theirs in his server!!! 😹😹😹
umbral stump
i wonder what the statistic is for whitetails killed in the quest of GO
full cave
Hahaha 30-06 fun package!! That's awesome @full cave !!
umbral stump
and i wonder the total amount of GO compared to those killed hunting for them
full cave
@full cave lol 😅
violet schooner
@small meteor who left ?
Oh the person who faked the trophy
Oh whatever faking trophies should also be a rule in the server that people who do it will get a warning then ban
And scrubje don’t feel bad about people leaving in my sever people leave all the time and join all the time,
umbral stump
Yeah it just happens
violet schooner
Literally, I’ve had cases where people join the sever say one thing and leave like half a minute later because people weren’t waiting hand and foot to respond to what they say
umbral stump
Well they also can pretty easily read the mood
Or looking for a specific chat not there
violet schooner
Lol we have lots of chats all about hunting fishing and the outdoors
Bushcraft even
full cave
You aren't going to see many great ones being posted now, between most of the community (through videos and streams) slowly learning they're bugged and the new whitetail system that was changed all of a sudden. Something that was taken as a challenge (rare spawn) but still fun. Is now nearly impossible to get (5,000+ harvests some people have and not one spawned in yet) with the combination of the number of bucks on layton decreased significantly. Even after checking every water source on the map. Just isn't all that enjoyable to hunt them these days,
violet schooner
@umbral stump there was an update
violet schooner
What do you mean turkey region
umbral stump
that's not a bad thing
that's the first thing that comes to my mind when i think of it
i haven't played in a couple months
full cave
Yea I agree. Gunoilgobble . If you steal/fake here it should just be a ban.
And yea def no need to feel bad. People leaving like that is a sign of admission so to speak. He knew he was busted and left.
small meteor
i was gonna issue him a warning for faking the GO but he took the L so hard he left the server
full cave
Best bet if you ever kill a GO take an original photo of it?
Like screenshot that bitches ass or somthin.
An ass while in the truescore screen boom no ones ever did that.
umbral stump
is there a number of total GO found ever?
full cave
Uhh theres like 12 confirmed ones.
I'm sure theres more though like the discord is a very minor amount of the player base.
full cave
Yea something like that Sol. Or easier yet it def should be with the harvest log. If its got time and date on it,can't have any more solid proof than that.
Thats why I never believe anybody who says they got one or one running around on the map but they can never produce a pic. Or they throw up a screenshot like that with no other proof or pics.
Thats good Scrubje. Yea hard to say what the penalty should be. On one hand its just kids trying to prove whatever or clearly spread false info and get the community stirred up by saying hes got 2 on the map. On the other hand its as least as bad as HAX or worse cause theyre stealing other peoples hard work to claim as there own. IDK. But I myself am glad they left. If they do it once they'll do it again.
And also not saying that there may ne some very rare cases that somebody did see one on there map and didnt have a chance to take a pic. But if its there there's a chance to find it again and we'd see solid proof. That def could be possible.
full cave
The sad part is that this kind of thing fuels nonsense. We all know theres something not right with WT ATM. I dont chase anymore. Bit proves the point that either GOs too rare or theres something wrong or both. Not meaning to harp.on it but just proves the point when the only time we see one lately is from cheating. Of theres 6 in the game we should legit have a chance to get them.all.of we spend the time and dedication to them. If we do dedicate to them.and never find one,then whats the point. Thats just a thought for devs to think about and how we dedicated players feel. Thats all.
vital geyser
Its just the fact that half the racks dont spawn
If all the racks spawned then we would probably have 2 a month
Last month I saw one overweight buck on reddit and one on flinter's discord
full cave
Thats accurate beta. We saw about 2-3 a month before the patch was released to PC months ago. Now even less that the patch is on all platforms. I think 2-3 a month is good considering the true amount of players playing and all the hours total put into it collectively. It should be rare bit achievable (all 6) if a player chooses to dedicate their playing time to them. Yea Ive seen SOOO many overweight bucks,probably like 30. I'm guessing that theyre suppossed to be in the game and GO spawns off of them.and for whatever reason we havent recieved that info or they dont realize that themselves. Just meaning the devs and the reps that give us the info. But bottom line is theres something terribly wrong and thats why I wont waste anymore real life time chasing till its all sorted out. Besides theres other issues with WT right now. Hopefully this next patch we can hear them and other issues fixed. Need zones are also broke and hopefully theyre set straight with patch. I know the times are broken so to speak. Ive seen WT got to drinking zones at 1458 amd leave at 1500. Thats not right. Ive seen the need zone issues on SRP too. Ive set up for mulies at 1030 for feeding and foymd them.drinking on a road at 1030. 😹😹😹 So need zone time with WT and other species are an issue too but esp WT
rocky timber
What was the update about ?
charred pendant
I had the great one on my map and i opened my map to multiplayer and it turned into a lvl 3 i feel like the over weight diamonds people get are suppose to be great ones
crude granite
Wait, you had a great one on your map and you knowingly opened it up for multiplayer!? You are either the kindest person or 😄
We think the same that the overweight spawns are meant to be GO'S but EW hasn't said anything on this which is frustrating us as a community
charred pendant
I opened my map up so my friend could see it in person i got pics of it standing on my map if u want me to i can post them but after that i grinded for it again and got a overweight diamond so i feel like i should have two great ones
crude granite
Yeah you should have
cerulean palm
Oooh I wanna see the pics of it! Not often we see one that isn’t a harvest screen photo
charred pendant
Ok they gonna suck because i took pics of it with my phone off my tv
Thats all i got of it while it was still a great one
Heres what it turned into after i opened my map to multiplayer
Heres my second one that never spawned in as a great one but should of been
full cave
The “hacker” that figured out how to spawn great ones figured out they straight up don’t work on multiplayer, they also don’t work via sharing population files they will always end up as level 3 over weight bucks your best bet is just to never host multiplayer.
pliant oak
you have to be careful with that though as you can legit get overweight whitetail which should be GO its just the racks dont work right on them for whatever reason. i shot one myself after about 500 whitetail in on my grind. i wish i would of let it go out of render now to see if the rack changed. really do hope that what you say on the pop files is true. as that would make me very happy.
tempted to go back on the grind for a GO actually shot a level 3 yesterday which didnt make diamond but...maybe changes might happen and i dont want to go after weeks of slaughter just for a change to cancel that out again.
full cave
Oh wow. Thats interesting. Heartbreaker esp since you had it 8n the sights :(
vital geyser
Yeah i think if i get an overweight track and its not a working rack ill just go out of render ans hope it changes the rack
pliant oak
i would start the game again if you see it or let it go out of render to see if it works. no one really knows why the over weight ones happen
crude granite
This is great, real evidence of a GO on a map that legit changed. No argument that this happened. If you read these comments EW then this is real proof that there is a problem. Also could be amazing if you try logging out if you have an over weight wt to see if it comes back with the right rack! Thank you @charred pendant for sharing this. Just sad for you that it changed!
I know where on the map you spotted it too and it's also a great spot for me
vital geyser
Where is this lovation if i may ask
full cave
Yea that is awesome to actually see one!! Pics=proof So yea can't dispute it! Feel so bad for ya tho.
Next time just send a fun package to him asap 😹
crude granite
It's here @vital geyser
full cave
Have you seen WT there post patch CC? I havent seen any in that stretch at all post patch on my map
It used to be a great spot before that. No its just a dead zone with tumble weed blowing through it.
full cave
Right up there is where I got my GO
crude granite
I am on ps4 so it might be different if you are on pc @full cave I honesty have so many spots on my map with wt that I struggle to get around them all at drink times. I then go to all the feed zones and I would say that I can harvest about 30 bucks in an hour if they are all respawnd in. It took me a while to find my drink and feed zones but they are there.
@full cave I have nothing here, so it just goes to show how random it can be map to map
full cave
Yea, and I killed my go back in May or June. Now I have hardly any whitetail in that area either
I’m on Xbox by the way
crude granite
I have my intire rabbit population where you have mentioned! I do get a zone that changes now and again but if you look around you will find new ones, just takes time
This is the map I made last night with a crude number system for me to follow on each wt run I do. The numbers 10 and above are all my feed zones.
charred pendant
I wish i never shot it when it was a diamond i wish i would of just turned the game off and reopened the map but i was so heartbroken at the moment i was like what are the odds it changes back.
Ive started grinding for it again and i feel like all i get is female respawns and the whitetail dont respawn consistently like they use to and whats up with the drink zones on the rivers like impossible to find now
Yep ill never open my layton up again after that
Only good thing i got from the whitetail grind was a albino diamond roosevelt elk
crude granite
How many did you say you killed to get the GO to spawn
charred pendant
My first was like maybe 2000 to 2500 my second was like a 3000 probably had like 70 to 80 hours of grinding both times
I feel like showing that it changed just proves that everyone that got a overweight diamond should of had a great one
crude granite
If I get an over weight one with a normal diamond rack I will try and restart the map, if that doesn't work I will try the theory on out of render and if that doesn't work I will just leave it on the map and wait until they are fixed 😄
charred pendant
Well if they fixed them and you waited it might get pop reseted off your map and how would you know if it's overweight without shooting it and i dont think the render thing will work now it use to change the score on stuff but now you have to turn the game off to get that to work
full cave
Ok cool. Thanks CC. Yea I'm on ps4 as well!!
vital geyser
Very nice thanks @crude granite
crude granite
Yeah, I know @charred pendant but I think I would rather have it removed rather than knowing it should be a GO! Oh you are on ps4 too @full cave Well thats weird! Wish I could wonder around your map and see whats happening
full cave
Yea will look for U next time I play!!! That would be fun
charred pendant
I wish they could fix the overweight diamonds like how they fixed the melanistic mouflons that were in my lodge im also on ps4
crude granite
I am sure trey will @charred pendant but you know what it's like. I know they are concentrating on bug fixes so fingers crossed.
charred pendant
Yep fingers crossed is what im like hopefully next update they will help the whitetail i also wish they would add another great one animal already
crude granite
I Don't play online that much @full cave but will msg you if I do
I would love another GO but like many others I think we would like this one fixed first. Can't imagine it would be that hard to put a patch out on either
charred pendant
I want a great one moose and yeah maybe one day they will fix the great one
full cave
Kinda random but I still can’t mount my GO🤬
Also I haven’t setup the date on my Xbox yet lol
crude granite
So you can't even admire all that hard work! That is really frustrating for you
crude granite
Just taunting you
full cave
They fixed it one time and it worked but then like a week later it was back to not being able to mount it
crude granite
So they didn't really fix it they just gave you a week to admire your work then said that's enough
crude granite
It's almost worse that you saw how amazing it looked when it was mounted. Glad you did take a pic of it though, just hope you get the chance to mount it again! Man this was meant to be such a great thing to go after.
Might be worth checking after this next patch drops with the tru Axis patch wether by some strange coincidence it is fixed
full cave
that bug was mentioned a while back tbh it's probably towards the bottom of the list to get fixed.
Yea
vital geyser
You could try to lut it in a multi mount see if that works
full cave
I’ve tried that been for and it still didn’t work 😕
finite jungle
Imagine if someone put their GO on a wall mount instead of a full-body
strong thorn
Only the antlers lol
supple tulip
Same, I think I'd put it up on a wall mount
vital geyser
Is anyone able to confirm if need zones move around whenever a GO spawns?
violet schooner
No that’s not a thing zones don’t move when a silver gold or diamond spawn so no
vital geyser
Okay because I heard this theory a while ago
strong thorn
I have never seen a full wt mount irl not even for monsters so I would put it in the wall in game
strong thorn
Really?
full cave
Tbh if i ever got a great one and they added skull mounts thats probably what i would do.
vital geyser
Id probably do the glitch where you can put the animal on smaller mounts and do my own "european" mount
full cave
Or if we ever get the more scenic mounts whitetail 2 rares and the great one.
full cave
Shoulder mounts
full cave
the crown mounts are fine, they look weird on the bigger plaques
that's where that glitch where you can place bigger animals on smaller plaques would come in handy
vital geyser
yeah I meant crown I didn't know which one that was
But we should def get european mounts in the lodge
main berry
@full cave can confirm that bug is at the bottom of the list. I have the same bug
full cave
IMO I just want WT to be addressed. 😹😹😹 Having a GO is a luxury at this point 😹😹😹
@main berry yea, probably won’t be fix until next year lol
main berry
I doubt they'll fix it
full cave
Probably won’t
fallow owl
i bet they will. assuming they intend on adding other GOs, it almost has to be addressed
vital geyser
I think crown mounts are ok but the ones for some of the animals like WT don't have any portion of the head on the plaque so its just 2 racks on a piece of wood
which makes it look really ugly
strong thorn
balmont lake is no longer good for wt is it?
vital geyser
I dont think ive actually found a population in balmont since the update
iron valve
The pond has like 2 herds
vital geyser
Ive had much better luck in calburn and by some of the high lakes
crude granite
You are right @fallow owl If they intend to add more GO'S then they will address the wt first
Any of EW's staff can just look back over this thread and see it's obviously a problem.
iron valve
If they ever do😂
small meteor
They are aware. its been brought to their attention multiple times that there is something off about the GO & Whitetails in general.
iron valve
I wish they would just tell us there fixing it
pliant oak
I dont think ive actually found a population in balmont since the update
@vital geyser shot a level 3 there other day 😁
vital geyser
Dang well i should probably keep an eye there then haha
iron valve
I forgot Ron was a content creater😂
Someone should make an updated map of all the whitetial drink zones
full cave
i bet they will. assuming they intend on adding other GOs, it almost has to be addressed
@fallow owl that is true, I hope they fix it!
I wonder what the next great one will be, mule deer or red deer is my guess 🙂
vital geyser
Im taking a guess of probably blacktail
Probably getting the main deer species first then moving up
full cave
Maybe, it’d give em a good chance to fix up blacktail antlers too while they’re at it
IMO I just want WT to be addressed. 😹😹😹 Having a GO is a luxury at this point 😹😹😹
@full cave I probably won't grind for one even after they're fixed. The whole point for me was the variations being a surprise. Since someone had to hack them into the game and shared them on a public discord...that ruined the fun in it for me
full cave
Tbh i am just waiting for another GO to be added
i Just hope next GO isnt fallow would be nice sure but grinding on hirsch yuck.
Axis, red, Gemsbok, Kudu, Capebuffalo, Blacktail, Rooosevelt, Moose are all ones i would like to see.
Roosevelt, Kudu and red deer would probably be the most interesting tho, Kudu already have big diamond horns I cant imagine what they would be like as a great one.
crude granite
@iron valve These are all my spots, so many I can't get round in one go! I think people need to look harder. I set the time to wt drink time yhen walk down each side of the map until I find them all. Then when drink time is over I will follow a herd and mark the feed zones. Also shot two diamonds in close succession with these zones one at Balmont lake and the other at Calburn in the north
full cave
I feel bad for the people who kill these after grinding for a long time.
full cave
considering it's been this long between great ones being released and today (still not fixed) I think it's safe to say they aren't very "prioritized"
I can say from personal experience of the bug (and no it was not an "old spawn" I reset my pop and still got one to spawn after they changed the old great ones). Getting that overweight diamond whitetail that should be a great one but isn't, is an instant turn off.
full cave
here's another one someone grinded for, they're now upset with the game.
small meteor
I mean we know of the issue, im sure EW knows about the issue but posting screenshots of the bugged animals isnt going to fix it faster :/ Guess we will just have to wait. I hope some kind of fix is included in thet next update.
considering it's been this long between great ones being released and today (still not fixed) I think it's safe to say they aren't very "prioritized"
@full cave They havent released any hotfixes, it has nothing to do with prioritization.
I think it has something to do with the fact that pushing out hotfixes on 3 platforms isnt as easy as it might sound so all updates are bundled together for 1 bigger patch instead of several smaller ones.
full cave
idk...I generally disagree with the way things have been the past 6 months or so, but it is what it is.
@small meteor I also sent a 5 paragraph summary to support on what is happening, how it happens, what most of the people who are in the chat/ or have killed one think is going on. Why it's an issue and how the community thinks about it. Some long-term players are on the fence about the game, so for those people that's game ending to them. If it's still unclear what the issue is not much left we can do tbh. I lose faith as the weeks go by. I love cotw and I wish it was great again. Just the path it's gone down the past few months has been rough for a lot of people. Just most don't speak up about it because they don't want to seem "negative" or ruin the reputation they have with the community.
I'm not going off on you personally Scrubje it just bothers me the disconnection between the devs and a lot of long term players.
full cave
Thats why Im in hibernation so to speak. Ive learned to walk away and save myself the mental anguish over the GO until whenever it is in the future theyre fixed. It is frustrating since thats what got me back into the game. At this point it is what it is.
viscid cairn
@winter prawn any update on the piebald?
vital geyser
Im taking it as it wasn't true
vital geyser
Anyone that shot a phantom GO, did it say that it was 97-110kg or was it classified as max weight estimate
winter prawn
@winter prawn any update on the piebald?
@viscid cairn
I havent seen him yet again but im gonna look for him today
magic phoenix
Done enough training yet?
strong thorn
Hmmmm I don't trust the game anymore, I've lost many diamonds because of me leaving them for other day but, I can't belive someone didn't shoot a piebald GO on spot, fame pulls harder than fear
vital geyser
Like youd mess up diamonds or theyd never come back
strong thorn
No, I spot a diamond, leave the game come back to the spot and needzone and its gone, I search the area extensively and find nothing
Happend with a blacktail, red deer and a kudu so I no longer leave diamonds foe later
full cave
I legit don't even hunt Layton anymore because of how bad the entire Whitetail deal is
crude granite
Whitetail aren't the problem, the problem is the GO rack spawns. You either get lucky or you get an overweight one that should have been a GO
I can literally shoot about 40 bucks in a 2 hour session on my map! You just have to look for them. Layton isn't like SRP where you don't have to try
vital geyser
@strong thorn the diamonds should def still be on the map becahse they dont despawn
strong thorn
Yeah but they glitch into god knows where, I did found a diamond kudu the kudu time but all the others got lost
full cave
Anyone that shot a phantom GO, did it say that it was 97-110kg or was it classified as max weight estimate
@vital geyser pretty sure it shows as 85-100kgs on the track
vital geyser
Damn thats rough, i wonder if they would become fableds if i waited for one to be fixed
full cave
nope
you can't make an animal become something else once it has already been spawned onto the map. Most you would see is they fix the issue and reset the pops
full cave
Yea ive shot thousands of WT and spent hundreds of hours only to be rewarded with fake GOs. I don't mind putting in that kind of work for the reward but just want to be rewarded for that effort just like.in real life. You should get out of it what you put into.it just like IRL. Its so frustrating. I saw the stream the other day and WT were not mentioned in it so I'm assuming will have to wait for another update in another month or 2. Just the way it is I guess. The frustrating part is from all the hype created this summer and all the set backs. Yes WT are on the map but that's not the issue. I refuse to play the game until I see the GO again. May take until.christmas with the "priority" list and the past history of patches so to speak. Big long sigh 😩😩😩😩😩
And even more frustrating is that it's been 5 months of this. So it should be at the top of any/every list. Assuming it will be for the next patch planned for the next month or 2 however long it'll be. Havent given up all hope but in my eyes its fading.
full cave
idk...not many people in the community are going after one these days. Would fixing the variations we've already seen hacked in anyways benefit?
glossy cove
I haven't grinded for them because of this, I don't want my hard work wasted on a whitetail that has a great one weight but not the rack, i really want one too but it seems impossible right now to get one, I don't think I've seen anyone post one after the trured update or whenever they added the new racks for them, I do hope they fix them soon
wide plume
I dont think the great ones themselves are broken. They're supposed to be super rare 1:10000 spawn rate. I just keep losing whitetail zones for no reason, otherwise I'd grind it more myself.
full cave
nah they're broken. 2-3 racks don't spawn in the game atm.
vital geyser
I havent even seen the other 2 racks
Ive only seen people shoot that cactus of a buck
small meteor
this is one of the other racks, not my picture btw.
owner is "Elenasarr" from Zaggi's discord server.
full cave
Those are the legit spawning racks.
Theres 6 possible racks, though its COTW they can spawn with two dif antlers even on great ones.
violet schooner
I hope in the patch notes it says new great one added when axis trurac come out
vital geyser
Were these racks hacked in or are they legit
magic phoenix
Mans double lunged it with the m1 garand. I respect that
vital geyser
I kinda wish their racks werent so symmetrical
But maybe thats for when/if actual non typs are added
full cave
I hope in the patch notes it says new great one added when axis trurac come out
@violet schooner I don't see any chance at a new great one being added this year. Even if one was to be added, I would bet on it being part of the "40-50% scrapped content for the year"
@vital geyser I still haven't see the harvest screen of the one rack scrubje posted in here. I saw the same screenshots in the lodge from Zaggi's server. Hard to say if that was legit or not.
vital geyser
I have a screenshot with that rack but its cropped so idk if its the same deer or not
strong thorn
Its time to pressure All Of The Above to get a GO in under a week
supple tulip
tribal pawn
Is irl season tho 👀
full cave
we were grinding for one at the same time he was 50-75 bucks ahead of me. Then I killed what people are calling a "phantom GO" and we both just stopped after that.
charred pendant
When was the last legit great one shot and posted here
supple tulip
Well they've been broken ever since the mule deer TruRacs if I recall correctly
So quite a while
tribal pawn
They've been broken the entirety of them being added
crude granite
@charred pendant about Aug 11th I think. One guy on console had one on his map recently but when he opened his map up to multiplayer to show his friend it turned into an overweight diamond
Yeah @tribal pawn We have literally only seen one fur type and two legitimate antler spawns which seems unlikely given that the GO's are meant to spawn with a number of different antler types and as rare fur types
tribal pawn
There was like 3 legit ones killed in August right before trumuleys
crude granite
That update seems to be the problem in some way
charred pendant
Thats what happened to my first great one opened my map to multiplayer then it switched to a diamond
crude granite
Oh yeah it was you! Sorry forgot your name 😅 Felt awful for you
especially as you had him in your sights from the pic you posted
charred pendant
Ive started grinding for it again ive grinded about 30 hours now and haven't even had a diamond to spawn in yet i feel lucky to get a max weight lvl 2
crude granite
I can see why you want another. To see one on your map and loose him is rough. You will get diamonds again, my heards fluctuate in size and then a diamond pops up. Good luck man, I am trying too and have about 30 hours with two diamonds, one small piebald and albino so it won't be long for you
charred pendant
What sucks is after i lost that one i grinded again for it got a overweight diamond so if i ever get another that means i should have 3 GO
full cave
Yea pre patch there was only 1 antler variation spawning but the GOs themselves were spawning fine. We saw a bunch posted pre patch. Ever since theyve pretty much disappeared. Theyve just turned into really fat diamonds 😹😹😹
I wouldn't imagine they'll be getting fixed for another 3-4 months
full cave
Yea it's unfortunate and frustrating. Having to wait a month for the patch and SRP release,then get to see those hacked variations. I slowed down my grind to have a chance at one of those. Then at the last second to get the news the we console players had to wait another 2 months for that update. Then after getting the update this is what the update brought us. So yea ATM the GO is dead to me for another several months or however long its going to take to fix them.
I was hoping 8n the meantime theyd release something cool and Id start playing the game again. I know truaxis are com ing but I can honestly say Ive never even hunted them once 😹😹😹 Tjeyre just not exciting for me. But thats just my opinion.
So back to waiting I GO until the GO is the GO again someday 😹😹😹
violet schooner
I think it’d be cool if go’s had a fur type called “scared” and it’s where the animals skin has lacerations, cut, and wounds from fighting, and where antlered species could have part of the antlers broken
violet schooner
@magic phoenix mhm
magic phoenix
Maybe make it so some scarred animals cant sense you as easily. Like blind in one eye, or missing an ear
violet schooner
But hyper aware in other senses
magic phoenix
Yea
violet schooner
@magic phoenix what I got so far
magic phoenix
@violet schooner is that my mountain lion
vital geyser
Its crazy i think these GOs are a lot more common than people make them out to be they just need their racks fixed
violet schooner
@magic phoenix possibly 👀
And soon to be a great one
I made it. Most work went into the animal
Closer look at model wouldn’t make a bad emoji wink wink, also might be a good reference wink wink
ruby rain
dire wolves weren't that much bigger than gray wolves
strong thorn
This is gross and terrible @supple tulip thank you I hate it
I think only the truracs species will have GOs
And I Know they said all animals Where going to get truracs but at the speed we are right now it could take up to 5 years to get all the species and then the GOs
strong thorn
Just a diamond kudu with a recolouring
magic phoenix
Yes
willow prawn
Damnnnnnnn
willow prawn
Well since weight doesn’t matter for truracs anymore
vital geyser
I hope my zones are about to spawn something big because Im starting to run low on males in some zones
crude granite
That always happens to me too, it just means you have another new location to look for. They are there it just means you have to adjust
vital geyser
Yeah i looked around some areas of the map i dont usually go to and i found a herd of like 4-5 bucks
Which i found that max weight troll in
But i found 2 other zones yesterday and i set tents up there that i dont usually use
crude granite
Feels really good when you come across a new heard for the first time! One of the many things I love about this game
whole mason
@vital geyser are you still going for white tail even though they cant be great one?
violet schooner
They can
vital geyser
Yeah im still chasing it the zones havent actually been an issue for me
Just hope they fix the rack spawns at least by the update after truAXIS
violet schooner
I hope they add a Texas map with axis cause I honestly hate parque
But I’d rather take a New Zealand, Australia, and another Africa map first
vital geyser
Here is my guess
Next map is outback or some australian setting
Then africa
And then another texas map
full cave
It'll be hard to make an outback specific aussie map interesting.
that's just asking for a BRR remastered from classic (which most people will say it sucks)
sharp junco
They have to get the WTs to work than start to think about the next GOs
drowsy ruin
are great one white tails still able to be hunted or was there only so many in all existance
vital geyser
You can still hunt them theyre just incredibly rare
violet schooner
@sharp junco but do they spawn now cause of new brokenness
crude granite
Let's hope that somehow that by some chance the latest patch has made it so we all have about 10 GO's on our maps! 😄
vital geyser
Lmao i would probably quit
Im trying to do that grind and only for kt to become extremely common would just suck
crude granite
Just kidding, I like that they are rare too. You just never know with an update :)
The trophy shots page is just full of Axis diamond's which is making me laugh
vital geyser
Just grabbed mine may go back in for some more but other than that i heard mule deer got reset too sl i may see if i can get abother diamond
crude granite
Yeah I might go back to hunting mule dear again now
pliant oak
still after a diamond muley think im cursed 😂
violet schooner
You gave your curse to me🤣
pliant oak
ive hunted them few hrs a day since they came out with truracs not even a close one
violet schooner
I’ve only gotten two broken 5’s
vital geyser
Id say check areas you never go to
vital geyser
Well just gotta continue that grind
violet schooner
Bruh
3-very easy gets old
And now axis came out they look hot and their broken so I’m gonna grind them as much as I can before they’re adjusted
vital geyser
What if this entire time the phantom GOs were just an instance where weight didnt affect score
vital geyser
I have a feeling I may have a GO somewhere on my map
A lot of my drink zones and a couple of my feed zones have been randomly disappearing
crude granite
Same @vital geyser I have had to search more for drink zones than ever recently. Feed zones are my fault for over shooting!
vital geyser
Well my guess is a similar thing like last update is happening again
crude granite
You mean a pop reset?
I haven't played since the update, so will see if anything has changed 😕
vital geyser
I doubt there was another pop reset
I still have some same drink zones
But i have a couple that have disappeared
crude granite
The one thing that gets me is the zone stays but it stops spawning bucks. I almost want to shoot all the females to see if it resets or moves a zone
iron valve
Did the update fix great ones?
crude granite
There was no mention of it in the patch notes
crude granite
EW said it was for emersion in game that they added the new sound effects which is cool
violet schooner
Every time I hear the money sound I think but did I ask
Cause to be honest it gets old
iron valve
Yea and I like that but there are more important issues that they should have been worrying about
I enjoy the little music it plays for ur first kill in a session
violet schooner
I enjoy the music when we load in near a lodge or outpost but the new stuff makes it feel to arcade
Also what’s up with the new gun
iron valve
U didn't hear about the double barrel 300
violet schooner
Mo
crude granite
New side by side is amazing! Hell of a kick though 😄
iron valve
Wait Is the background weapon different?
violet schooner
Yes
iron valve
Welp the next dlc is weapon pack 5
crude granite
So this is the new duel ammo they were talking about!
iron valve
I don't recognize that gun do u?
violet schooner
Lol 270+223 @iron valve
violet schooner
273
crude granite
Yeah 273 lll
iron valve
No one's uses the black version of the 270🤣
violet schooner
No one's uses the black version of the 270🤣
@iron valve 😑
iron valve
It's all about that engraved roe deer
crude granite
I have never even used the 270! 😄
violet schooner
Funny how we don’t have a camouflage rifle
iron valve
We do just most people don't have it
violet schooner
Unless you simped and prebought the game
violet schooner
They need to make new 243 ammo and 243 gun
New ammo brand
Like one that’s expensive but gives a lot of pen and another one with a lot of expand
iron valve
The 243 needs a buff bc in irl the 243 is supposed to be stronger than a 30-30
violet schooner
My 243 could clap through 2 deer and keep going
iron valve
Yep
violet schooner
But that might just be my ammo
iron valve
Could be what 243 do u have, I hunt with a Remington semi 243
iron valve
Nice
violet schooner
What does yours look like
iron valve
I can send a picture of it when I get home
violet schooner
Alright
I’ll dm you mine cause the only picture I ironically have of it is with a dead deer and scrub will yell at me if it’s not in irl hunting
iron valve
Yeah that's why I sent u a friend request so the mods won't get mad
violet schooner
I see
small meteor
👀
crude granite
Camo skin pack dlc, that would be cool. Also new camo for the character that actually makes a difference
violet schooner
👀
supple tulip
Sounds like a backpacks and night vision situation
violet schooner
Those are in the game
One is shit
The other comes in hand every once in awhile
supple tulip
Not really for actual hunting though
violet schooner
No
supple tulip
Backpacks make everything within' a mile radius immediately flip out
And night vision you might as well just use normal binoculars
crude granite
Yeah I understand balance in a game but the spook radius wearing a backpack is just as bad as riding the atv! 😄
The bow scope was the reason I got the night vision dlc. They always seem to do that, put one good thing in a dlc pack and the rest of the items are meh
full cave
^^^^^^
I could not agree more
WP 1 was really good until they oofed the recurve
I went around the community asking what people thought and overall I was shocked at how many people don't like the change. The few that do I asked why they wanted the recurve to aim like the longbow when the longbow was already in the game. They never gave a valid reason.
vital geyser
Honestly the only reason for me is because its spook radius wasnt broken but that was already fixed
Other than that only reason i WOULD give is if the longbow or recurve got a weight change
I.e recurve is like 2 lbs or longbow is 3.5-4
I just wish instead we got a modern recurve
tropic muskBOT
0815Mods#3436 has been warned
small meteor
@plucky shell Those words are not welcome here.
plain surge
why did my message get deleted?
small meteor
wrong channel
full cave
Are we talking about GO or WT here?
vital geyser
Eh why not both
full cave
I love talking both but dont see that either have been mentioned 😹😹😹😹😹
I was all excited seeing all the messages thinking something with GO happened. But as with everything related to the GO was a disappointment. 😹😹
I guess since there's no GOs to be seen I guess this chat room can be about whatever. It keeps the chat room alive 😹😹😹😹😹 Cause its not GOs being shot that keeps this chat alive. 😢 Such a shame.
RIP GO. Makes me laugh hearing everybody screaming for this kind of GO or that kind of GO. Maybe get the original GO working first then maybe add more GOs and no other updates that will break those GOs??? IDK just an idea 😹😹😹😹😹😹😹
GO working the way they are to me stands for Go On and play something else versus "I need to chase the GO cause its the ultimate trophy to be had" 😹😹😹😹😹😹😹
Maybe I'm wrong? Somebody shoot one to.prove me wrong!! 🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷 IDK just saying. This years just been an overall disappointment with COTW.
As far as the GO and WT are concerned.
Maybe to make it up to.us WT hunters EW will add nontypicals sooner rather than later?? 😹😹😹😹😹😹😝😝😝😝🙉🙉🙉🙉🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈
Not going to happen. Just wishful thinking
vital geyser
Lol you good man
supple tulip
Holy shit so many yellow icons
full cave
hurts my eyes lol
Lack of GOs should hurt all your eyes
Mods should turn this room into general chat.
Or wishful thinking/suggestion chat
Would be more appropriate
Its def not and can't be a serious/trophy chat room. There's no such thing with the GO
strong thorn
I think that the devs should make GO common for a certain amount of time so that people can hunt them and report bugs then change the spawn rates again, maybe in a beta
magic phoenix
Like wat they dis with axis deer
strong thorn
But if they really wanted to fix them they should have analized the GOs problems by now.
magic phoenix
But not that common
strong thorn
Like diamonds, in a 3 month beta to get em perfect
But now that I think about it, it makes no real sense, they can't do it by themselves, if they haven't its because they don't consider GOs to be priority
vital geyser
Yeah i doubt another GO is coming this year
violet schooner
I still think it was just a backup plan to buy time
lofty cove
What’s a GO?
magic phoenix
Great One
lofty cove
Oh
magic phoenix
Its a very rare type of whitetail deer
lofty cove
Great duck 2021
crude granite
EW will fix this, they have just put out a big list of fixes. I think next update will be a hint of yhe next reserve map then a release at the end of the year. Then I really hope to see a fix on the GO in the next patch maybe early next year. We might even get another map with WT which would be great! I just think that when it comes to surveys that EW put out and future streams we all need to keep on about the GO's I am sure they are aware of the problem but you just never know what road map EW has for the future. Stuff does get fixed but unfortunately it just takes time. We all love this game and are passionate about it. With a small team it usually revolves around time and what people shout about most coupled with the fact that they also need to work on dlc because money makes the world go round.
vital geyser
Yeah but one thing i wished they did was update #693063835828879440 more
The piebald elk thing has been fixed on every platform iirc
crude granite
Yeah would be nice for an official announcement just to put our mind at rest
vital geyser
Would def be nice but idk if EW has to approve that message or if the devs dont want to bother with it
crude granite
Well it is or should I say could be a great feature that adds for me as a player a lot, and is one reason I keep playing. I like to strive for a rare so I would hope that adding more GO animals is something they continue to do
burnt oracle
I think they should put out a list of fixes. I think it would definitely resolve some of the anger the community has towards bug fixes since they don’t know what’s going to be fixed next.
strong thorn
How many you have by now?
vital geyser
2
fair urchin
Maybe the next update will fix roe deer moose and non typical white tails
violet schooner
And then fix whitetail antlers cause the only good ones are the lev 1 antlers
fair urchin
Yep I wish white tails went up to 5 medium instead of 3 very easy so there would be more rack diversity
From spikes to a big old 14 point buck
violet schooner
I wish they could have split points drop tines ext
And some racks would look real wacky like irl ones can
vital geyser
Yeah im surprised as to why WT only go to 3
Wish they went to 5 but its whatever
Just wish they had a lot more racks for each level then
violet schooner
Name one reason how a whitetail is easier then a bison @strong thorn
strong thorn
In COTW?
violet schooner
Mhm
strong thorn
Name one reason how a whitetail is easier then a bison @strong thorn
@violet schooner I actually did this experiment with a musk deer and a reindeer if you are interested I can tell you my results
violet schooner
Go ahead
strong thorn
Since lvl equals difficulty
All of this started because someone said this to me and I said what a load of BS
But basically lvl 5s will spook easier and from longer distances than lvl 3s
If you walk up to a lvl 5 it will warning call(aka become alert) in the aprox distance of 170m while a lvl 3 will let you aproach walking up to 150 before becoming alert, if you crouch after that you cam get up to 90m to a lvl 5 and 70m to a lvl 3 and after you lie on the ground you can aproach both lvls up to 10 m if you are careful enough and it doesn't smells you
Lvl 5 animals appear to have better sense of smell than lvl 3
But again, it might depend on the animal specie, I haven't found a diamond whitetail yet but I did these tests with a reindeer and musk deer that where really close by one from the other, so tests where almost simultaneous
vital geyser
^ did that with my mulie the wind was always terrible
And it could smell me from like 70 to 80 m
That can be a vague guess thoufh
strong thorn
I did a semi test with a diamond red deer too and in terms of distance I can confirm it was bigger the noticing distances than with the reindeer and musk deer
vital geyser
Interested in the fableds senses
strong thorn
I might also add that since whitetails have lvl 10s it might be different and if I find a diamond Blacktail and Whitetail in my map I would gladly do the tests and tell you about it@violet schooner
Interested in the fableds senses
@vital geyser my discussion started there
I was saying that the GOs must've been dumb as hell and someone told me that they should be harder than anyother thing so I called bull
fair urchin
So higher the level the more skidish they are and hard too track
strong thorn
Yes that is the working theory
fair urchin
Ok makes sense
vital geyser
Yeah but it seemed pretty easy for flinter
strong thorn
But I haven't seen a GO and since they don't work correctly I would not try to experiment on it as much as just kill it and get it taxed
vital geyser
Honestly as long as you crouch within like 100 m all the levels dont seem to care
strong thorn
Yeah but it seemed pretty easy for flinter
@vital geyser animals that are spooked run into players and it has less to do with the AI than with the established paths for animals to "roam" also we don't know how long did Flinter waited for the GO to calm down, head back, go calm and answered to the call since he thankfully edited the video
Honestly as long as you crouch within like 100 m all the levels dont seem to care
@vital geyser yeah well it is intended that higher lvl animals present a higher difficulty, but COTW is so wacked I don't think lvls mean anything anymore
vital geyser
Yeah the levels dont have a drastic effect
I see wherre they change but its not thay much
strong thorn
But what I know is that if you are stalking a herd Diamonds will be the first ones to bolt and the last ones to come back
That I have seen many times
vital geyser
Yeah they are often the harder ones to wait for
strong thorn
And if you stand up in front of the herd they'll be the first ones to run away
Good nite ya alls
vital geyser
You too man take care
crude granite
I think diamond animals are just harder to spot with the binos and when spooked will generally not come back to a zone as quickly that's my only observation so far I want to test now too
vital geyser
Well from my experience unless theyre in an open field, diamonds qould always be back in the brush for me
crude granite
Yeah me too, if I spot a new herd the larger ones are always more hidden from view
vital geyser
They also take more calls to bring in
fair urchin
@lofty cove you have to pay
strong thorn
But that one is just a troll
vital geyser
Well they're all trolls
But this one is a respectable troll
This is making me curious as to whether there's a few diamonds on trhe map
Because I know theres a diamond cap on the map
vital geyser
Uh what i do is publish the photo and save it to my gallory
Then i go to my gallory and click on the photo and copy page URL and copy past it on google
Im pretty sure theres a much easier way though
viscid cairn
@full cave do you mean how do you screenshot or how do you post? screenshot with f12 and what i do to post is go to the game in library, go to screenshots and double click then copy the image
crude granite
First time back on Layton after the update and my zones are funky! Not in a bad way, just feels like something has changed
vital geyser
Gad a couple zones disappear but thats about it
Ima try to look for some more next time im on
crude granite
Yeah my zones have moved, I spotted some larger herds so am happy about that!
iron valve
Do we know if this update fixed them or no
vital geyser
Nah i havent seen overweight since last update
crude granite
My map pop has really changed since the update. My Wt herds are more populated and there are more of them so something is different
crude granite
I just hope that doesn't mean that all my work so far has been reset
sly oak
Mines mixed. Only have a few herds now. 2 have 15+ and the rest have like 4 or less.
@crude granite could you post where your herds are now?
crude granite
My current map drink zones that always have at least two or more bucks