🦌︴great-ones

[loud flame]

Yukon is good for no hm grinds

[stiff dust]

To many zones I tried setting up before and gave up

[prisma cove]

fair. my layton was fairly easy to hm

[acoustic delta]

yeppers so im hoping i have a good zone layout

[jade aspen]

I’m doing YUKON

RAHHHHH

[prisma cove]

and 1/14 for a species as inconsistent as moose is nor bad

[prisma cove]

bettt

[jade aspen]

I’m over boring easy grinds tbh

[prisma cove]

good luck

[acoustic delta]

im not tearing my whole wolf setup down for that

[prisma cove]

moose is not easy nevertheless so ur good

[acoustic delta]

you say this now…

[jade aspen]

I am, Yukon my favorite map

[prisma cove]

same reason i didnt do moose on rev

i have wt

but i dont mind swapping fallow and reds on Te tho😭

[acoustic delta]

exactly and i lowkey wanna do wt on rev soon

so edy

[jade aspen]

I mean I’m almost 800 kills into a phrase grind on one of the maps people claim to be the worst

[acoustic delta]

2m 1f 1m 2f are my go to zones right?

[jade aspen]

I might do a nem pheasant grind

[prisma cove]

anyway its 12 am and today i have a math test, peak😞✌️i ll go to sleep

[prisma cove]

me

[loud flame]

Unless whitetail get new and better racs they ain't worth it in my eyes

[gritty tendon]

"phrase grind"

[acoustic delta]

and isnt there another zone i can use too

[prisma cove]

absolutely and certainly

never break

[jade aspen]

You can include 2m 2f zones if you know where they bounce

[acoustic delta]

perfect

[acoustic delta]

noted

[jade aspen]

Shaddup 😭😭😭😭

[prisma cove]

fair but id rather be slower with no bouncers

[acoustic delta]

agreed, i know moose are slow as it is

[prisma cove]

2 m 2f rarely work like carri said if you know where they bounce

[acoustic delta]

i appreciate the tips goat

[jade aspen]

Issue is I’ve never had a moose map even have enough 2m 1f or 2f 1m zones to grind on alone and get respawns

[jade aspen]

Silver Irish is tuff

[shrewd tundra]

ye

[acoustic delta]

its a bit rough😭

[prisma cove]

😭😭

i use 9 mains on layton

8-9 bulls per run

[shrewd tundra]

i use 11

for mine

[jade aspen]

I have 7-9 they don’t facking respawn 😭😭😭

[acoustic delta]

ill use anywhere between 8-12 as long as i have enough good zones lmao

[acoustic delta]

😭😭

[shrewd tundra]

i shoot 11 mains

[jade aspen]

Yukon might have enough… if not I’ll add some 2m 2f zones

[prisma cove]

i removed some pickup tents to have respawns by the time i get to the first zone

try it

[jade aspen]

I meannnn

I still want to do Yukon anyway

[shrewd tundra]

edy how many kills you in

[jade aspen]

Favorite map

[prisma cove]

fair enough

good luck twin

[jade aspen]

Thanks 🥹

[prisma cove]

im into wolf 12 atm

[jade aspen]

I hope my pheasant pops soon

[loud flame]

I wish Yukon had more species tbh

[jade aspen]

Fun grind but ugh

[prisma cove]

160 ish i think i dont have the steam note

in my face rn

[jade aspen]

Yeah it could benefit

[shrewd tundra]

nice im 1125 into moose

[prisma cove]

18 dimes

[loud flame]

Me with any of my g1s or the beaver

[prisma cove]

oh you meant moose

[shrewd tundra]

ye

[prisma cove]

my last moose was last friday

347 kills 22 dimes

[shrewd tundra]

i know

nice

[jade aspen]

True. I’d love a rare pheasant

[shrewd tundra]

i need to hm more

[prisma cove]

thank you

[prisma cove]

1/13-1/15 is good enough for em

[shrewd tundra]

ye im sadly 1125 in rn

[loud flame]

Leu lvl 2 incoming

[prisma cove]

hell even 1/20

[jade aspen]

I have a leu 😔 mela please

Not albino freaking hate that rare

[shrewd tundra]

ye i want a 1/20 or 15

[prisma cove]

i js realized i also have leus and albinos but no mela

lmao

[loud flame]

Best I can offer is a leu

[prisma cove]

aight bet

[shrewd tundra]

wym

[tall lion]

what luck hoarding is this

[prisma cove]

like go for it, get that 1/15 rate

[shrewd tundra]

im going to

[shrewd tundra]

hard hm

[prisma cove]

great, gl✌️

@jade aspen ill sleep ill better wake up to a g1 phes

😭✌️

[shrewd tundra]

i have like 59 2s on my te

one in like 8 dim rate for fallow @tall lion

[loud flame]

I curse carrion with a 8k kill grind

[tall lion]

i have 1 in 9 but i dont get SRs in fallow 😭

[shrewd tundra]

damn

you pc

[tall lion]

me pc of shi? 😭

[viral lotus]

I just had a level 2 WT hit diamond?

W?

[shrewd tundra]

ye same

[tall lion]

common occurence tbh

[shrewd tundra]

sr maybe

[tall lion]

still a W

[shrewd tundra]

pie

5 on my map rn

[tall lion]

got a pie troll

[shrewd tundra]

damn

i just got a pie that one i sent with the 2 g1s

[tall lion]

ok give me your luck

hows the great one grind doing everyone?

[shrewd tundra]

ye

[stiff dust]

Decent 2 G1 in 270kills

[frank tangle]

1 rare in 2k kills i cannot do this anymore

[stiff dust]

On ?

[frank tangle]

Reds

[stiff dust]

Oof

[tall lion]

i want this today, 2 SRs and 2 G1s, but for wulpz

[frank tangle]

I got like 4 rares 3 are initial spawns

[tall lion]

wulpz?

[stiff dust]

I had a G1 red deer I initial spawn on cuatro when they first released 😂

[stiff dust]

Ye

[tall lion]

fur?

dawnbreak? 😭

[stiff dust]

Hollow and razorwind

I’m after twinsoul

[tall lion]

W

[glacial folio]

He's the best

[tall lion]

youll get that sub 500 kills

[tall lion]

only correct take

[stiff dust]

Don’t make me hopeful cause now I won’t get another till after 1k kills 😂

[tall lion]

trust 🙏

[tall lion]

best wulp fur fr fr

[frank tangle]

Good ahh pic

Bias or not one of my favorite furs fr

[tall lion]

bias

[prime laurel]

Pretty photo

[frank tangle]

I like the diff eye color and the leg design

[prime laurel]

Amazing even

[tall lion]

top 1 fur no contest

[tall lion]

the nose also

[frank tangle]

And it looks way better than what I came up w

[tall lion]

its the details

[frank tangle]

The noosseeeeeeee

Its so cute

[stiff dust]

They better cook with this next G1

[frank tangle]

Every day I be upset I didnt think of the nose detail in my concept art

[tall lion]

looking at the remasters

now i hope its a boar

[stiff dust]

At first I kinda hated the idea of boar G1 but it could look good if it is boar

Like a hogzilla kind of one

[tall lion]

they did a great job remodeling it fr

[frank tangle]

I think boar will be new g1 bc of that insane remodel

Its so good

[tall lion]

might be part of the lore also, a mythical creature in scot but turns out its a g1 boar

[stiff dust]

Uk don’t really have huge boats compared to America

[tall lion]

also scot is a g1 party wth

[prisma cove]

yeah man twinsoul is quite something

[tall lion]

fallow, red, pheas, fox, + new great one

5 in 1 map

[frank tangle]

I was thinking the same thing

Gonna be a good ass map to grind

[prisma cove]

it is but askiy still has more tho

[deft veldt]

What if the G1 is a mink

[loud flame]

Could also be roe deer

[frank tangle]

Ik thats just my reasoning for leaning towards it being boar

[tall lion]

fr

[prisma cove]

its prolly going to

[tall lion]

if its roe though, imma skip the grind and go mules or moose

[prisma cove]

i ll have to wait 9 days till i grind

i ll buy the map on the 18th

on the steam sale

[tall lion]

ah

winter sale

[prisma cove]

yes

[tall lion]

good idea

i might to the same

[prisma cove]

yep, ill also buy the lodge dlc

[deft veldt]

I wanna start a grind but it take forever to even set it up

[prisma cove]

like 9 days to save up money

its not that bad

[stiff dust]

G1 boar Yukon grind 💀

[tall lion]

will only take forever if you dont start

[prisma cove]

😭

[deft veldt]

What’s the easiest one?

[tall lion]

wulp

[deft veldt]

I wanna do moose but I heard it’s hard

I wanted to start with a easier one

[prisma cove]

fallow or wolf

[tall lion]

for me its either wulp or fallow / red in te awaroa

[prisma cove]

do fallow

[deft veldt]

On what?

[prisma cove]

Te

[deft veldt]

I don’t have Te

[prisma cove]

what do you have

[tall lion]

yea skip that for now, hundred of zones, lots of solos, they be everywhere

[deft veldt]

I have salzwizen, SRP, and Rev

[tall lion]

wt

[jade aspen]

Easiest grind in game

[prisma cove]

wt on rev is the easiest

[shrewd tundra]

gwt te

if you can

[deft veldt]

What’s wt

[prisma cove]

whitetail deer

[jade aspen]

Srp bear or Salz pheasant

[deft veldt]

Ohh

[tall lion]

srp bear easy af also if no hm

[deft veldt]

Bear would be cool

So should I do bear?

[jade aspen]

Even with hm not bad, you can set up tents with ease to all lakes

[jade aspen]

Sure

[deft veldt]

Wait so how expensive are tents?

Expensive right?

[stiff dust]

16k

[tall lion]

yea you just need some swapping

with WT, theyre all herd zones so itll be a little more straightforward

[deft veldt]

Ok

So bear or wt

[stiff dust]

I heard red fox grind on hersh is pretty easy

[tall lion]

your choice tbh

[deft veldt]

I’ll do wt in Rev

[tall lion]

what map is more explored

[deft veldt]

Srp

Wait no rev

[tall lion]

ok go rev

shoot dem bucks

[deft veldt]

So how much money should I have to buy everything?

[glacial folio]

Cheat sheet

[deft veldt]

Because I need tents and tripods

[tall lion]

0

youll get money during your grind

[deft veldt]

Yea but don’t I need tripods to start?

And tents

[tall lion]

you can set it up one at a time

[deft veldt]

So I can’t just start by finding zones and shooting stuff?

And I shoot smaller stuff for HM right?

[stiff dust]

No

[deft veldt]

What do I shoot?

And no does right

[tall lion]

but to answer your question, about 400k for the whole setup

[deft veldt]

Ok.

I’m gonna watch a video to find out how to HM

[raven rose]

Almost 4000 kills into the 4th tahr grind, like I JUST had a 8,6k kill grind

[tall lion]

goodluck!

[tall lion]

it hates u

[raven rose]

Apparently, first one was 1k, then 8.6k, another 1k, and now an almost 4k and who knows when this one ends.

[wooden hornet]

which map?

[raven rose]

Te

[wooden hornet]

you should make a guide, those tahr in the forest south west are killing me 😄

[raven rose]

Yeah I have actually been thinking of that since I know a lot about them, more than any other species easily

[tall lion]

why you keep grinding tahr then 😭

[raven rose]

Fav great one + favorite grind

[tall lion]

ah fair

[raven rose]

Just wish they gave me great ones at a normal rate lol

[tall lion]

you like them with pain

i dun even have a g1 tahr tbh

[raven rose]

I have three

[tall lion]

what was your g1 rate before tahr

[raven rose]

15k total kills...

You dont wanna know...

Its horrible

[jade aspen]

Wolf my favorite g1 Highkey

Followed by Fox

[raven rose]

Wolves are ok

[jade aspen]

Followed by pheasant

[raven rose]

Foxes are second best

[deft veldt]

panda how many zones should i have

can other people help me?

[tall lion]

about 10

[deft veldt]

can people help me?

[tall lion]

oh you mean total?

60 ish in rev

[deft veldt]

well how many zones do i need

[deft veldt]

do i have to find around 60?

or just 10

[tall lion]

find 60, choose 10 as your main spots

[tall lion]

use this map

[deft veldt]

yea i am

panda is a 4 wheeler a bad idead

just driving around lakes

[jade aspen]

67

[rigid crypt]

G1 #107, Bear #12, 89 kills 9 diams, only need spirit now

[deft veldt]

Is a 4 wheller a bad idea to find zones?

[glacial folio]

You should scout on foor from 1045 to 1215. After 1215 you can use the 4 wheeler to circle some lakes for tracks if you want. Nothing replaces scouting with binoculars tho

[deft veldt]

ok

[jade aspen]

Quite literally the worst way possible

[deft veldt]

should I shoot at stuff while scouting?

[hardy saffron]

It’s up to you

[deft veldt]

ok

[fickle prawn]

Wall of g1 mules

[tall lion]

not really, can be useful

use it after the drink times though lol

[deft veldt]

ok

[tall lion]

89 kills

bruh

congrats

[rigid crypt]

yup

ty, w fur too

[deft veldt]

is it okay to have zones picked out before i find 60?

[stiff dust]

U the luckiest player to the touch game for sure @rigid crypt

[rigid crypt]

nice one

[tall lion]

damn why are there 2 testickle racks

[tall lion]

yea, fohsho

[tall lion]

fr

also w fur

[deft veldt]

and i HAVE to have all 60 zones?

[tall lion]

yuh

[deft veldt]

why?

[tall lion]

some people skip it though, they just rotate to zones they discovered

[fickle prawn]

Cause y not tbh

Friday ima set up whitetail on rev

[deft veldt]

i might just find like 20 or so and chose 10

[tall lion]

for consistent respawns, to know your zone layouts, shooting down herds, etc etc

[fickle prawn]

I have 6 g1 mules and 4 of them are exact dupes 2 velvets with Dusky drift and 2 classics with cinnamon stripes

[deft veldt]

so i dont have to but its strongly reccomened?

[tall lion]

people who knows better than me strongly recommends it

[deft veldt]

ok

[jade aspen]

Two what

[deft veldt]

ill try to find 60

[jade aspen]

Do it you won’t

[viral lotus]

Stealing this

[deft veldt]

do what?

[jade aspen]

Find all your zones

Heard you wouldn’t

[tall lion]

he wants to skip the steps

[deft veldt]

im gonna try

[jade aspen]

And that’s how you have a poop grind

[tall lion]

eh

[jade aspen]

How it feels

[tall lion]

can be offset with W luck

[viral lotus]

I need to find akl my zones I think

I don’t think I have

How do I know if I have

[jade aspen]

5k grind

[tall lion]

youll feel it

[signal cobalt]

i’m trying to find all my zines and have only came up with 25. Can not find anymore and have looked and looked one lane won’t even spawn any for me any tips?

[tall lion]

jk, if you cant find any other zones after checking multiple times

[viral lotus]

Is there a number I’m aiming for?

[tall lion]

fallow?

[signal cobalt]

yes!

can only find 25 zones just seems low to me yk

[deft veldt]

whats the best way to count zones

[tall lion]

adding them

[deft veldt]

i already did like 8 and havent been counting

and i already had some

[viral lotus]

You can see em on the mao

map*

[ivory pond]

Red lines

[tall lion]

i personally will look here, these places look sus empty

[jade aspen]

Multiple herds one zone, multiple solos one zone

Probably

[ivory pond]

Multiple?

[signal cobalt]

ahhh i’ll have to look at that too i suppose

[ivory pond]

But only 1 indicator

[jade aspen]

Yuh

[ivory pond]

Why

[jade aspen]

Wait am I being dumb again

[tall lion]

why

[jade aspen]

Why

[ivory pond]

[stiff dust]

On wolf grind on Yukon should I get all my solos to level 4 ?

[pliant oak]

you missing quite a few spots

[ivory pond]

Majority of people do low weight 5s

[tall lion]

i did 5s

[stiff dust]

Bet

I’m getting no 4 respawns even though I got a good amount of 9s on my map

[tall lion]

stack a great one

helps tbh

[jade aspen]

What tf is that pfp

I hate it

Genuinely

[ivory pond]

It my selfie

[tall lion]

its me after thanksgiving

[stiff dust]

Ye I should’ve done that earlier but at the time didn’t think

[jade aspen]

Smh my head my head

[jade aspen]

@tall lion laugh at this dude

[ivory pond]

My pfp cooler than yours

[tall lion]

no

i thought carrions pfp was a bird

lmao

[jade aspen]

Aw

[jade aspen]

😭 son im cri

[late island]

He says that... and now I see it

[jade aspen]

I hate you all

[tall lion]

why you mad bird boi

[ivory pond]

Yes

[deft veldt]

i have a 249 deer on one of my zones

[jade aspen]

All is good again

[bright meadow]

Finally got my Great One Mule Deer! Was worried I wasn’t even going to get one before Scotland arrived… 😭😅😂

[solid anchor]

Wolf grind friggin efficient now

[jade aspen]

Where is your… g1… or 5

[solid anchor]

Im at my moose grind numbers now

About 100 a day

✌️

[jade aspen]

Just get 500 in a day… brutal

[solid anchor]

No life

You grind like 15 hours a day

[jade aspen]

8-12 but who is counting

[solid anchor]

That's like

Almost 3 times the amount of time i grind

[jade aspen]

Brutal

Just grind lil bro

[solid anchor]

I have school cuzzle🤞

[tall lion]

how many kph

[jade aspen]

I do things! Sometimes

[solid anchor]

It's about a kill per minute

[tall lion]

damn holy efficient

[solid anchor]

Give or take

[loud flame]

Milk

[solid anchor]

That's if they come to their zone

[pliant oak]

im trying to shoot wolves sir ! please move

[jade aspen]

Get more little bro

5 kills a minute

[tall lion]

meany

[loud flame]

Rookie numbers

[tall lion]

rookie numbers tbh

[solid anchor]

For shooting 1 per zone i'm doing pretty damn good

[loud flame]

Get 1k a second

[tall lion]

i get 67 a min

[jade aspen]

How in the FUH

Oh wait I don’t get respawns

Nvm

[solid anchor]

Git gud

[loud flame]

Procavia capensis

[solid anchor]

Procavia capenis

[jade aspen]

Talk to me when you get a kill per minute for Rancho pheasant

Provocative canvas

[solid anchor]

I'll do nem pheasant

[jade aspen]

Me too

Lemme know when you start

[ivory pond]

They’re pretty mid ngl

[tall lion]

nooooooo

[jade aspen]

Zacky you are 50/50 goated and mid opinions don’t chat to me

[ivory pond]

My 1 is better than every other one spawned

[ivory pond]

50% Goated 50% Stupid

[jade aspen]

Correct yeah

[tall lion]

50 super W takes, 50 super L takes no in between

[ivory pond]

What happened between the duped GO ppl earlier

[solid anchor]

Ima be so pissed if i get frostbite or hollow

[tall lion]

whats this

[ivory pond]

Cherry blossom is ass

Is that W or L?

[tall lion]

W

[jade aspen]

Oh.

[ivory pond]

People posted a dupe earlier and acted like it was fine and dandy cuz they both grinded for it

[ivory pond]

Trash and W

[jade aspen]

I was asleep but I’ll check

[glacial folio]

@prisma cove crazy way to find this guy on the spawn in

[tall lion]

you can dupe gos now? 😭

[ivory pond]

You’ve always been able to…

Sadly

[jade aspen]

Oh literally nothing came from it 😭

[ivory pond]

Wow

[tall lion]

in MP?

[ivory pond]

I @ed you

[ivory pond]

I wont explain how its done cuz me bringing it up probably has me on the edge…

[jade aspen]

I WAS ASLEEP

[ivory pond]

And

Supposed to be a hero and come to the rescue

[tall lion]

fair but 😭

[jade aspen]

What’s up?

[buoyant ether]

Is it worth it setting up mule deer on srp or na

[jade aspen]

Die 😭

[jade aspen]

What the freak is na

[buoyant ether]

No

Na

Same thing

[jade aspen]

Oh

No

Don’t do that 😭

[buoyant ether]

Okie

I wasn’t sure

I’ll buy asiky

[tall lion]

oh they deleted the post

[ivory pond]

No

[ivory pond]

SRP isnt horrible

Works better with HM than askiy

[jade aspen]

Do parque

[solid anchor]

Ain't no parque doe

[ivory pond]

Naw

[jade aspen]

And it has abysmal reeds

[solid anchor]

Askiy? Nah

Oh you meant srp whoopsie

[jade aspen]

Idit

[ivory pond]

I mean parque does too

Not as thick as srp tho

[jade aspen]

True

[jade aspen]

Demon reeds

[gritty tendon]

i think i will sleep early tonight

too tired to grind

[buoyant ether]

Sooooooo parque or askiy

[jade aspen]

Parque

[gritty tendon]

depends

if you want a crazy dime rate for HM then parque

[jade aspen]

Parque

[gritty tendon]

but i would say askiy is overall better/easier

[buoyant ether]

Hmmm

[gritty tendon]

the entire map of parque is ass

L map

[buoyant ether]

That is true

Hate it

I’ll try it though

[ivory pond]

Lower left lake

Fookin crazy good

Legit only grind that lake

[late island]

Parque is my second favorite map lol

[loud flame]

Wild take

[jade aspen]

Hate you

[acoustic delta]

NOOO

NOOOO

NOOOOOO

SUPER TROLL

GAME WHY

[ivory pond]

YEAHHHHH

BAD GAME

[acoustic delta]

AZZ GAME

[plush tartan]

Leave my child out of this

[jade aspen]

I could post it but I’m not cruel

[jade aspen]

Massive rip

[acoustic delta]

didnt even know it was rare until i went to pick it up

[acoustic delta]

@prisma cove……

[jade aspen]

Same

[ivory pond]

Why dont we just let our animals grow?

[jade aspen]

Er

[jade aspen]

This isn’t way of the hunter little boy

[gritty tendon]

it's so bad that's it's almost as bad as cherry blossom fox

[loud flame]

So when's the next map scotland hype died 🙏

[ivory pond]

No but ive had them change levels…

[jade aspen]

Your hate is unjustified

[jade aspen]

What

[ivory pond]

Theres zones I had HMed then I went back and they was all 2’s😭

[loud flame]

Your hatred sickens me

Save that hatred for vurhonga

[gritty tendon]

hype died out literally like 2 days after the chat was brought back

[tall lion]

F

[loud flame]

I am betting the g1 Is something only a handful of people asked for and the entire community is disappointed

[ivory pond]

Yes

[gritty tendon]

wigeon for vurhonga GO

[ivory pond]

And if its a good species its gonna look like ass

[loud flame]

Wigeon would go hard ngl

[ivory pond]

Hear me out…

Gray fox

[gritty tendon]

i'd rather not have a duck GO

[gritty tendon]

burn and die

[ivory pond]

Why

[loud flame]

Peak

[gritty tendon]

no more pairs

[ivory pond]

Its a very easy grind atleast

[loud flame]

Id prefer this over sum mid like feral goats

[ivory pond]

Feral goat dimes spawn like fuggin crazy

And trolls

[loud flame]

Roe aint gonna be as bad as foxes

[tall lion]

feral goat GO is interesting ngl

[gritty tendon]

i do not need more people getting the same SR as me

[ivory pond]

Minimal HM and crazy dime rate

[ivory pond]

It wont but its gonna be bad lol

[ivory pond]

Yes you do

Make it less cool

[loud flame]

Just people making it out worse than it is

Foxes are pains cuz they are Foxes

[ivory pond]

It really will be a sucky grind

No good way to set them up at alllll

[gritty tendon]

it will be bad because half the kills won't count

[ivory pond]

Just grind solos

[loud flame]

Just count both roe as one 🙏

[ivory pond]

Thats what I do on fox

[loud flame]

Not hard to do

[loud flame]

No wonder you dont got a g1

It probably zone hopped to an exterior

[ivory pond]

See on emerald the solos are consistent

[gritty tendon]

i thought solo grinding foxes sucked?

[ivory pond]

That only applies to salz

Hence why… I dont grind salz

[solid anchor]

Solo grinding works on the ec method?

[ivory pond]

Ive had the same amount of foxes in my lakes since the start

[ivory pond]

Yeah

[solid anchor]

Yeah def doing EC

[ivory pond]

Another reason EC is bettererer

[loud flame]

Where's your g1 then if thats the case

[solid anchor]

Ye and fox hm is useless iirc

[coral falcon]

feral goat pls

[ivory pond]

Shiddy rng bro

[loud flame]

NO

[ivory pond]

I hate it

[coral falcon]

yes

[loud flame]

No feral goat

[coral falcon]

yes

[loud flame]

Waste of a g1

[ivory pond]

Ya

[solid anchor]

Mtn hare g1

[coral falcon]

no

[loud flame]

Unlike this

Peak

[ivory pond]

I think they could actually be pretty good

[coral falcon]

^

[loud flame]

Feral goats just suck

[ivory pond]

Not rlly

[loud flame]

Also if anything ec gonna be the goat map

[ivory pond]

Yes

[jade aspen]

YES!

Sorry alpha

[solid anchor]

Te

Or new map

[loud flame]

Te is stinky for goats

[ivory pond]

Te is pretty bad imo

[jade aspen]

Anything to glaze Te

[coral falcon]

Te is awesome for goats

[ivory pond]

The small homerange are somewhat high pop on EC is best

[coral falcon]

EC isn't

[gritty tendon]

as long as they'd have furs like this and horns that aren't ass they'd be nice imo

[solid anchor]

Te has a higher pop than ec no?

[loud flame]

Where's the sr then

[ivory pond]

The pop difference is like 15

[loud flame]

Exactly

[solid anchor]

Ye so still better

[coral falcon]

Te has 70-75 males

[ivory pond]

Fabled cookies and cream

[coral falcon]

Idk for EC

[loud flame]

Ice cream themed

Fabled rocky road

Fabled mint chocolate chip

[solid anchor]

Can i spawn a mela wolf already smh

[jade aspen]

😭

[ivory pond]

No homerange is obnoxious and dime rate on EC is the same

[jade aspen]

EC has 67 males

[ivory pond]

No

[loud flame]

Banned

[jade aspen]

Tryhard

[ivory pond]

No uneven numbers like that

Quick question guys

[ivory pond]

What moose map has highest pop

[jade aspen]

Nem

[loud flame]

Yukon valley

[solid anchor]

Yeah but EC zone placement sucks nuts

[coral falcon]

299 max levels on TE, 12 on EC

[solid anchor]

So many little crevices

[jade aspen]

EC just sucks nuts tbh

[ivory pond]

Its honestly pretty good from what I did

[jade aspen]

Hehheheehehehehe

[coral falcon]

this

[ivory pond]

Negative

[jade aspen]

Yukon

[ivory pond]

Its yukon

[gritty tendon]

layton has lowest i'm pretty sure

[ivory pond]

Askiy

[jade aspen]

That’s what I said idiot

[loud flame]

Procavia capensis

[solid anchor]

EC is good for everything but goats and red deer✌️

[loud flame]

I didn't say layton wym

[ivory pond]

EC is def best map

[jade aspen]

“EC” “good”

[coral falcon]

no

[jade aspen]

Brutal

[gritty tendon]

deceiver

[ivory pond]

I like maps with higher pops but TE just isnt it…

[loud flame]

Ec is C tier at most ngl

[coral falcon]

A

[ivory pond]

Animals troll to much

[jade aspen]

Idiot

[loud flame]

Edited

[ivory pond]

Yeah thats what It says

Edited

[coral falcon]

The only reason why ec is worst than Te for goats

is you can'T see the dam goats on EC

[ivory pond]

I see them just fine😭

[coral falcon]

they all hidden by the sides of the creek

[ivory pond]

Even with horrible graphics

[jade aspen]

Have you tried looking

[coral falcon]

I shot well over 300 goats on EC

12 max levels

[jade aspen]

How tf did the T become capitalized post edit

[loud flame]

Skill issue ngl

[jade aspen]

Yeah well I shot 3k

[coral falcon]

?

[tall lion]

i shot 2

[coral falcon]

Doubt hat

[tall lion]

Te > EC

[jade aspen]

Nerd

[tall lion]

expert opinion

[coral falcon]

doubt that

[coral falcon]

lier

[jade aspen]

No I did

[tall lion]

both troll

[ivory pond]

EC peakest goat map

[coral falcon]

how many max levels did you get

[ivory pond]

I had 7 initial maxes

[jade aspen]

Uh 92

[coral falcon]

weak

rookie

[ivory pond]

5 made dime

2 trolled

[jade aspen]

Yeah bad rng

[coral falcon]

no

skill issue

and bad hm

[ivory pond]

Lazy got a SR goat before you

[coral falcon]

Who's Lazy ?

[glacial folio]

WT #12 on the map

[ivory pond]

Good grinder

He called someone bad words in his stream yesterday

[tall lion]

isnt he the best grinder?

[solid anchor]

What kinda bad words

[loud flame]

Relatable

[jade aspen]

Lazy the legit

I’m like a legit lazy tbh

🥹

[viral lotus]

Still struggling for my first

[loud flame]

Lady the legend

[pliant oak]

just put in more hrs than everyone else and you will have more great ones 😁

[tall lion]

no you need just a good HM

[glacial folio]

You'll get him. Keep at it

[jade aspen]

Hm does lowkey nothing

[tall lion]

no

[viral lotus]

I’m gonna go make sure I have all my zones soon

[glacial folio]

Disagree again lol

[tall lion]

good hm = guaranteed sub 67 GO

[jade aspen]

YES! I DO! Except my total harvests match my g1 count ✌️🥹

[pliant oak]

well you kill more males generally with hm so it does really

[ivory pond]

Check dm

[pliant oak]

even if its random

[viral lotus]

People ran the numbers, it do be helping

[pliant oak]

100 percent helps thats why people do it

[tall lion]

who are these people

[jade aspen]

😭😭😭😭😭bias numbers too

[late island]

-# correlation does not equal causation

[jade aspen]

If you have 30x hm grinds compared to non hm grinds numbers will say…

[pliant oak]

hm works

[tall lion]

hm works for real

just not for GO

[loud flame]

Hm doesn't work

[jade aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

[acoustic cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/annoyed-face-gif-4522918356523415114

[ivory pond]

HM is bad

[loud flame]

I am an hm denier

[ivory pond]

Exploit

[jade aspen]

Real

[plush tartan]

The only thing HM is confirmed to do is give more dimes, which POSSIBLY can spawn G1s faster but there’s not really a way to prove it

[tall lion]

HM is just cope

[jade aspen]

Okay KC

[loud flame]

Santa is real hm isn't

[jade aspen]

Literally

[solid anchor]

HM is cheating

[late island]

This. Id love to actually know if it does or doesn't

[tall lion]

HM is basically hax

[jade aspen]

On average my no hm grinds have been shorter

[glacial folio]

My personal experience confirms otherwise. Unless im the luckiest mf alive

[loud flame]

High fence ranching

[late island]

Really depends on the g1 spawn factor which isn't confirmed. Itd be awesome to confirm it

[plush tartan]

Seeing as G1 spawns are essentially completely random, I’m inclined to belive it doesn’t, especially since my pheasants are almost entirely HMed and it’s still been 2200 or so kills

[loud flame]

Fake because g1s dont exist

[jade aspen]

Wait maybe I lied

[acoustic cedar]

This argument kills me

[ivory pond]

HM allows for bigger score gaps in the respawn pool more consistently leading to GO’s being able to fit in the respawn pool more consistently leading to a potential at more consistent shorter grinds. While you can get the same outcome without Hm by only shooting big males on your map so theres that

[jade aspen]

It’s so bad 😭

[ivory pond]

Yes

[loud flame]

Atp im just saying random stuff

[acoustic cedar]

No one can agree so like

[solid anchor]

Carrot mawds so he wouldn't know anything about HM

[tall lion]

finally

[jade aspen]

😭😭😭😭😭😭

[tall lion]

someone who talks sense

[glacial folio]

Imma just keep on hm and poppin off lol. Y'all can debate

[plush tartan]

But he also has exquisite music taste so he gets a pass

[ivory pond]

HM stands for Hummingbird Man?

[acoustic cedar]

Exactly bro you do you

[solid anchor]

Zacky's better

[plush tartan]

You do that, play the game how you want to. Thats the whole fun of COTW after all

[acoustic cedar]

If the GO is boar

[ivory pond]

Ima keep not HMing and pop off aswell with the same grind lengths yall can debate also🙆‍♂️

[acoustic cedar]

I might do a feeder grind

[jade aspen]

YESSSSS

[plush tartan]

Tbh that sounds fun

[acoustic cedar]

I tested a couple spots on medved and had STUPID amounts of boar

[plush tartan]

Feeder grinding on Hirsch for Boars would be awesome

[late island]

My brain wants to know the nitty gritty of it. Is it cycled into the entire spawn table with X? Is it weighted one way or another which is leading to HM potentially having or seeming to have an effect? I like the data

[acoustic cedar]

That was with the feeder early access

[ivory pond]

Can someone from EW just come out and say if HM helps or not?😭 end this stupid debate

[plush tartan]

Lesnye Lands and the Crater Region are absolutely packed with boars on my map

[viral lotus]

If HM didnt work, people wouldnt be standing by it so much. We wouldn’t have huge tutorials and tests for it

[glacial folio]

We need to get you shorter grinds

[acoustic cedar]

I bet if you find the good spots it could work too

[loud flame]

Feeder grinding should be more mainstream ngl

Some spots are amazing

[ivory pond]

Only long grinds is wt and fox tbf

[plush tartan]

I tested my Mullerwald and it’s packed

[tall lion]

even if they answer, some people wont believe them.

[acoustic cedar]

Oooo

[loud flame]

The fields on cuatro could go hard too

[acoustic cedar]

Oh I bet

[tall lion]

thats clearly a logical fallacy

[glacial folio]

My longest was Red Deer when 1st starting. 1800

[solid anchor]

I want roe to be the g1 but i do NOT want to grind them

Unless they rework how they work

[acoustic cedar]

I never want to grind

But I WILL

[loud flame]

None of us do

[jade aspen]

I’ll grind them on torr cause im cool

[ivory pond]

I avg a red GO about every 400 kills and had 2 instances with 2 GO 1 run

[viral lotus]

Nope, if it didn’t work people would’ve disproven it and moved on

[late island]

... speak for yourself

[viral lotus]

If it doesn’t work, disprove it

[ivory pond]

I already have

[late island]

coughs
-# correlation does not equal causation

[ivory pond]

93 grinds behind it

[acoustic cedar]

Hey so

[viral lotus]

Disprove it then

If it doesn’t

[acoustic cedar]

How about

[glacial folio]

I just never had the desire to do more than 1 G1 Red Deer but will after the rework

[acoustic cedar]

Agree to disagree

[ivory pond]

Its so mixed that its barely a difference if any

[solid anchor]

God i love crashing in the middle of grinding

[tall lion]

you made the claim, the null hypothesis is that it doesnt work. i dont have to disprove it. you have to prove it which you cant cause theres not enough and correct data

anyway

GOs are fake

[late island]

I want to disprove it cause nerd 😂

Shoot only 3-6 wolves and get a g1

[viral lotus]

Nah I didn’t make the claim. I support the idea given the evidence others have collected. I’m a supporter, I didn’t make the idea

[tall lion]

it doesnt need disproving though

[acoustic cedar]

I hope the GO is roe

[tall lion]

but yea its fun, cause nerd

[viral lotus]

As an opponent of my idea, your job is to present the counter evidence

[solid anchor]

Fox grind all over tho💔

[tall lion]

anecdotal at best

[acoustic cedar]

But but but they could be sooooo cool

[loud flame]

Fox grind but less mind numbing

[tall lion]

bad argument overall but you know this is a game

[late island]

It would provide hard data that couldn't be reasonably argued which is nerd fun

[viral lotus]

Prove it wrong then

I’m all for changing my mind

[ivory pond]

Here we go… HM allows for bigger score gaps in the respawn pool more consistently leading to GO’s being able to fit in the respawn pool more consistently leading to a potential at more consistent shorter grinds. While you can get the same outcome without HM by only shooting big males on your map so theres that. HM is just a more efficient way of grinding because you can kill those bigger animals in a shorter timeframe. iBUY himself has said what I just did so if that doesnt help you at all idk what will

[late island]

One day lol

[viral lotus]

Just haven’t seen the evidence

[tall lion]

i cant convince you with logic if you convinced yourself without one so

[ivory pond]

Wanna see bear grinds? Non HM and HM and tell me what you think?

[late island]

Ain't this the truth

[viral lotus]

I saw the numbers supporting HM, I had plenty logic

[viral lotus]

That’s too small a sample size for me tbh

[ivory pond]

Guess im grabbing my bear grinds

[tall lion]

again, anecdotal at best

[viral lotus]

I’ve seen countless HM proofs

[ivory pond]

33 grinds? Ok…

[viral lotus]

I’ve seen hundreds of HM grinds

They work

[late island]

Zacky whipping out the magic

[tall lion]

and ive seen countless non-HM proofs

[glacial folio]

Scarecrow just stated that he also feels that hm helps G1

[ivory pond]

Maybe its because 70% of the community herd manages😂

[late island]

I admit I'm interested in your stats unrelated to this convo

[jade aspen]

That’s also scarecrow 😭

[ivory pond]

You arent wrong

[jade aspen]

Exactly

[tall lion]

feels =/= facts

[ivory pond]

Thinks 1 in 20 is cracked HM

[viral lotus]

Yeah so nows your time to disprove it

[late island]

The basis of correlation/causation trouble lol

[jade aspen]

Scarecrow also thinks spawns acting weird means g1 lol

[acoustic delta]

max score #2

[viral lotus]

The majority is doing it, it gives the opponents the perfect place to step in and oppose

[jade aspen]

Soooo

[acoustic delta]

out of 50-60 dimes……

[loud flame]

If that was the case then id be swimming in g1s

[viral lotus]

Do the study, you could change the way most people here play the game

[late island]

But only if they are open to listening

And most... aren't

[viral lotus]

Everyone was open to the idea of HM when it became a thing

[loud flame]

Pig

[pliant oak]

i mentioned this last night

100 percent happens

[late island]

Because there was no presedent set. Now there is. That doesn't mean it's correct

[solid anchor]

Yeah cuz who doesn't want a higher chance of a super rarw

[viral lotus]

So disprove it and get the point established

[loud flame]

Where my g1s then dawg 😭🙏

[late island]

Also true

[jade aspen]

No tf it doesn’t 😭 out of my 16 great ones if vaguely happened for 2 of my bears and that’s a questionable thing itself

[loud flame]

Because my spawns have been acting weird for a while and no g1

[solid anchor]

You're not helping your case bud

[pliant oak]

dunno but its happened on about 10 of my fallow great ones in a row

so its not just a random thing

[loud flame]

Its just coincidence ron

[glacial folio]

I feel that a G1 rate is just like a dime rate. The problem is that you need several dimes and a couple hundred kills to accurately measure your dime rate. Hardly anyone grinds multiple G1s of the same species on their same hm map to see trends in their G1 rate. But those who do, myself included, start to see personal trends

[late island]

Except people here have already tried to give you evidence and you flat out didn't care with "i already saw the opposite so I'm still right"

[jade aspen]

It 100% is

[pliant oak]

on my fallows can literally tell when a great one is coming thats how obvious it is

[viral lotus]

No one gave me anything

[late island]

You aren't open to the possibility its incorrect

[viral lotus]

Thry said “no I have better numbers without it”

[late island]

Please read my message again. Correctly

[loud flame]

Its all rng thats the only thing that really plays into g1s

[viral lotus]

I’ve seen hundreds of grinds with HM that give better results

[jade aspen]

Speaking of fallow, I’ve had completely smooth runs right before it popped for all 3 of mine. Quite literally normal respawns and then the g1 in the zone

[loud flame]

You spin the wheel either you win or don't

[pliant oak]

the simple thing is most in here use hm

[viral lotus]

Give me better numbers on the non-HM side and my mind changes

[pliant oak]

so they believe it helps

that easy

[pliant oak]

i had about 10 in a row do it

[ivory pond]

I totally didnt send an entire paragraph proving you wrong

[loud flame]

He ignored it and continued

[dawn dock]

The HM discussions get serious I feel

[pliant oak]

its cause no one can prove otherwise

[jade aspen]

And that’s on you 😭

[late island]

Okay let me repeat myself because you clearly missed what I said. Data was offered to you. You said you didn't want the data because you already saw things that seemed to confirm your point.

[viral lotus]

You didn’t give me any grind numbers homie

[tall lion]

his stance is basically "ive seen it personally multiple times, i feel it is true because of anecdotes without hard data and facts, anything you say against it is just not true but im open to changing my mind"

[late island]

That's not being receptive

[pliant oak]

and its actually really simple to prove

[ivory pond]

Look at em then buttercup

[viral lotus]

Give me numbers and I’ll decide

[jade aspen]

You did! People just believe what they want 😔

[late island]

Absolute fire. Thank you!

[dawn dock]

HM is when you kinda force all the bigger spawns to a certain zone right? If i understand it right?

[ivory pond]

I cant stand arguing with degenerates 😭

[tall lion]

its fun wdym

[viral lotus]

The opposite homie, I saw the HM numbers and they were better than the non

[loud flame]

Zacky carrying rn

[jade aspen]

I’m crine bro 😭😭😭😭

[dawn dock]

It’s fun to watch happen

[viral lotus]

I keep my eye out for non, I don’t know how HM works and I don’t like it

[loud flame]

I love debates here for this reason

[viral lotus]

But hey, the numbers ive been watching show it works

[dawn dock]

I don’t HM I barely know what it is it’s just amusing watching the argument

[pliant oak]

hm you just shoot the right animals to go up a ladder to go to diamond or possibly a go. some go up some go down a level its that easy

[ivory pond]

I could pull my HM WT numbers also…

[jade aspen]

It’s actually informatation vs idiocy

[ivory pond]

Indeed…

[dawn dock]

So just shoot every decent looking animal until a better looking animal shows up?

[solid anchor]

Wrong again😭 ✌️

[loud flame]

Zacky your just wasting your breath atp no matter what evidence you show they'll have their own opinions

[pliant oak]

the easy way to prove if its random or if hm works as ive said loads of times. go shoot whitetail only level 1s. spawn a go. if it happens you proved its random. if it doesnt spawn youve proved that its related to trophy animals

no one will ever do it

[late island]

-# not me planning to do this at one point and blow the whole thing up

[viral lotus]

I haven’t been given a single dataset from the non-HM side

[ivory pond]

Yeah im just gonna give up, like I said once its like trying to tell a cowboys fan their team sucks

[ivory pond]

But… I did…

[viral lotus]

I encourage you to

[loud flame]

Best example ngl

[pliant oak]

no one will ever do it whos legit

[viral lotus]

I’d rather not do HM

[ivory pond]

I spawned a GO in 1390 kills

[pliant oak]

but it would prove it

[solid anchor]

Taco react him! That'll teach him for sure!!!!

[ivory pond]

I just did

[late island]

HEY. I'm legit 😭

[viral lotus]

Thats one number

Not a set

[loud flame]

Bro really got him there!

[tall lion]

i also did...

[viral lotus]

I’ve seen people HM and get their G1 in 10 kills

[solid anchor]

✌️

[viral lotus]

Dont mean HM works better at all

[late island]

I don't get why correlation not equalling causation is such a hard concept 😂

[pliant oak]

when you gotta change name good ol tacobebal

[pliant oak]

🤣

[viral lotus]

Because eventually thry intersect

That’s how statistics work

[pliant oak]

hm works simple maths

[loud flame]

Ronmctaco when

[late island]

Just because they crisscross doesn't mean they are related lmao

[jade aspen]

I’ve seen people not hm and get it in 3 what are we on about

Lmfao

[acoustic cedar]

Lord above guys none of you are gonna agree this is pointless

[late island]

That's... like the whole definition dude

[jade aspen]

Yeahhhhhh 😔

[viral lotus]

See? Single experiences dont prove anything

[pliant oak]

i think people are just bored its that time of night

[loud flame]

Most of us are just trolling atp

[viral lotus]

Gotta have sets of data

Long term proofs

[solid anchor]

I love how part of this is just "Because i said so"

[tall lion]

oh

[late island]

I'm just here vibing to music lol

[jade aspen]

😂😭

[pliant oak]

surely you should join in the troll train many aboard 🤣