🦌︴great-ones

[zealous ferry]

They changed how spawn works, now when you go to the main menu things don’t respawn. That means grinds wont work anymore or will be incredibly slow. They basically removed the way 99% of people in this chat play the game.

[crude spindle]

I don’t want to spend months on one great one

That’s too much

They’re already not that special

[lofty vector]

I can’t read sarcasm through text bud, neither can a lot of people.

[ripe path]

So will they fix it or just lose their player base?

[still summit]

'Animals will no longer instantly respawn when a Player reenters a map. It will now take a normal amount of time for them to reappear on the map as originally intended.`

[crude spindle]

But ofc they won’t tell us what that time is

[hidden pagoda]

I'm stirring the pot cuz people are making a massive deal out of something that's going to get changed in a week

[zealous ferry]

Yeah now image that being the average time. People are just not gonna do it. It’s not worth the time

[indigo fractal]

we will have to see, how EW responds speaks numbers about how they truly care about this community

[lofty vector]

There’s honestly no need for that, people are allowed to feel how they feel about this now. No need to make it worse.

[zealous ferry]

It’s not if we don’t make a huge deal about it.

[lyric kite]

if people dont make a big deal about it, why would they change it

[hidden pagoda]

then we're back to 2020 with them actually being something special again!

[crude spindle]

Maybe don’t do that, because it’s valid for people to be upset about a change and you DONT know if it will be reverted

[ripe path]

I was level 30 doing my first grind took me several hours to get to that level and unlock all the stuff I did just to log on one day and be level 2, again, lost progress, several hours wasted on this game

[frozen pike]

im just gonna preorder BO6

[ripe path]

W

[wicked rose]

Was the tent strat a glitch or intended?

[hidden pagoda]

okay? it's a game lmao
it's not like they've put out a new law that makes it a federal crime to drink water between the hours of 9pm and 9am

[indigo fractal]

if we didnt make a massive deal about this and give a lot of criticism and backlash then it would never be changed. thats why game ruining updates get changed back because people make a massive deal about it

[frozen pike]

ight yall

we get it

we all mad

its fine

move on

[hidden pagoda]

exactly what I'm getting at

[ripe path]

Yes it’s a game but think of how many hours people have spent on it working hard/grinding just for this to happen

[crude spindle]

It’s not fine though

[zealous ferry]

Welcome to the crew friend, I have 3k hours on the game and now we got absolutely effed

[lyric kite]

move on from something that literally just happened

okay

[crude spindle]

This is the oppposite of fine

[hidden pagoda]

I've spent 3000+ myself, I know damn well

[still summit]

F

[hidden pagoda]

it's still just a game

[frozen pike]

i know

[crude spindle]

If you don’t want to hear criticism leave chat

[empty cape]

Lol imagine thinking you have the right to tell folks to move on from a discussion they're having about a relevant topic 😂 This is literally the place to discuss it

[ripe path]

U seem very chill to spend all those hours for pretty much nothing

[crude spindle]

We are the primary great one community, this is where we would talk about it

[empty cape]

I for one appreciate all the thoughts folks are having on the issue

[ripe path]

Why this dudes stream gonna suck tho?

[frozen pike]

i mean im mad too, but ppl arguing over nothing rn

[lyric kite]

where

[north nova]

Open forums demand that all people are allowed here -

THAT SAID

Everyone should be civil. If you can comment, you must be prepared for other opinions to be said with or against yours.
Please y'all, just be nice

[empty cape]

Right? Where?

[hidden pagoda]

yeah cuz I know we'll find a way to work around it or it'll get changed

[lofty vector]

He’s gonna get a lot of backlash from the players and it’s not his fault.

[hidden pagoda]

and I'm not kidding either

[frozen pike]

fym where

read

[empty cape]

People are discussing the new update. The only arguing I see is from people trying to stop people from discussing it or stirring the pot

[lyric kite]

this here

[frozen pike]

nvm

[ripe path]

Jesus

[frozen pike]

0.0

[hidden pagoda]

welcome to the internet

[empty cape]

Anyhow - going to be really interesting to see what folks can uncover in the next week or two about this update

[frozen pike]

yeah

[hidden pagoda]

we'll find a new strat that works or we won't

[empty cape]

I've been on the Internet since it was pay by the minute, I understand it I assure you

[crude spindle]

Stirring the pot is bad, nobody should be doing that rn

[hidden pagoda]

and if we don't the game will lose players and they'll change it back

[crude spindle]

Yes but after hundreds of hours spent on setting up on different species it’s very frustrating

[ripe path]

Really the only fun part of this game is feeling the reward of grinding but if they made grinding harder bye bye player base

[hidden pagoda]

you act as if I haven't done that too

[frozen pike]

i mean they will change it im like 75% sure xD

[hidden pagoda]

I had to set up my layton 6 different times

every single time they reset the pops

[crude spindle]

Yes but just because you did it doesn’t mean you get to speak for everyone.

[lyric kite]

they won't change it if people don't make it clear they don't like it

[frozen pike]

im sure they will

[empty cape]

I'm surprised so many folks think they'll revert it - the trophy lodge glitch being fixed caused a big ol temper tantrum and they held strong on that lol

[frozen pike]

people will make it very clear

[indigo fractal]

another thing to take into consideration is about how much this affects streamers / content creators. For most of them, this is their job, they rely on this game to LIVE. this update has essentially made grinding streams impossible for people who do that content, no one is gonna watch someone sit and wait 30 minutes before going back to the game to play for 5 minutes and then wait again. this is going to make a massive toll on streamers

[hidden pagoda]

I never said I'm speaking for everyone, what I am saying is people are too quick to jump to conclusions and are being extreme

[ripe path]

What was that glitch

[hidden pagoda]

a lot of the partnered content creators rely on grinding to make videos for this game

[empty cape]

You used to be able to put animals on any plaque you wanted, and make beautiful lodges. EW even ran a lodge contest and picked a winner who used it heavily. And then fixed it 😂 I was big mad and quit for a long time, I only recently returned.

[hidden pagoda]

if they cannot grind, they cannot make the videos their audience wants, and that side of this game's advertising will also collapse

[frozen pike]

Flinter like a solo man, he grinds like barely

[crude spindle]

Are we being too quick? We gave them a week of feedback saying don’t do this, and then it was worse than we imagined

[indigo fractal]

not only that but they also stop making money, this update, if not changed will unemploy people

[next arrow]

I think people in Gen Chat think we're insane

[empty cape]

And? lol

[ripe path]

When’s he going live

[lyric kite]

people in gen chat are too busy posting memes and talking about things that have nothing to do with the game

[lofty vector]

In about two hours on twitch and YouTube under expansive worlds

[crude spindle]

We also have a major influx of new people in the discord, we’re not immersive players, we’re not casuals, we have special interests and they’re being attacked so it doesn’t really matter what other player groups think

[manic rover]

I just think it is something to get used too and great ones will be much harder to get

[hidden pagoda]

I'm saying the people that are immediately saying uninstall the game and freaking tf out need to reason with themselves for a second and see if doing a mental backflip over their pixel deer game not working the same anymore is really worth it

[manic rover]

So if you have a great one you really need to be happy

[empty cape]

I tend to think it's going to become the new norm as well - the top grinders will find the most efficient way to continue but it's going to take a lot of adjusting. Will have to hold off on my next grind until the bigger brains sort it out 😂

[next arrow]

I completely agree, just an observation lol

[crude spindle]

This game is important to me, I care what happens it.

[frozen pike]

yeah, but i just dont see a way currently for non 12 hr grinders to get a decent grind

[hidden pagoda]

exactly, when stuff like this happens go "damn that sucks" and wait for someone to find a new strat out

[frozen pike]

i did that wit tahr

[empty cape]

I agree, it's going to be incredibly difficult, not sure if I'll ever be up to another grind if it'll be as challenging as it seems

[crude spindle]

Or give feedback so this doesn’t happen again

[lyric kite]

and then keep doing that until EVERYONE hates the game

we solved it!

[hidden pagoda]

it's not the first time and it's probably not the last either

[empty cape]

Yup, good quality feedback without potstirring or temper tantrums lol. Although can't say I was so level-headed when it came to the trophy lodge glitch debacle 😂 But helps me get where the more upset grinders are coming from too

[zealous ferry]

Guys lets talk at #1265308728798744667, we need to make it loud and clear for the managers

It’s up to us to push back if we want to have at slight chance on getting treated fairly

[hidden pagoda]

update

going to a different map and twin grinding

does in fact work

and it only takes 20-30 minutes for animals to respawn.

so far it's worked for whitetail, we'll see about fallow

idk about moose cuz my moose already don't respawn period so someone else will have to find that out

[north nova]

Classic moose, messing with everyone

[hidden pagoda]

fr

[next arrow]

Moose aren't respawning even with the double switch method, just tried it myself, might work for others tho idk

[hidden pagoda]

yeah idk about moose

but doing a run of whitetail then a run of fallow seems to work fine

[next arrow]

Yeah

That infuriates me, my main animal is Moose so I'm boned.

[hidden pagoda]

my moose never respawned lol

they stopped after 4800 kills

on every map

[next arrow]

I've killed nearly 15000 moose across all 4 of my grinds for them and they respawn fine, it's a bit weird that they don't for you

[hidden pagoda]

yeah idk why but they're completely bricked on every map for me

[next arrow]

Damn

[hidden pagoda]

I just accepted that I won't get a moose until they fix something or idk

[next arrow]

Hopefully they revert the change soon

Because there's no way it stays like this

[ripe path]

Lady legend says this patch will last forever

Unless it’s some sort of clickbait

[hidden pagoda]

lady legend also claims the most random bs ever

so

[next arrow]

No offense but I wouldnt trust lady as far as I can see her

[hidden pagoda]

not necessarily the most legitimate source of info

[ripe path]

I’ve never watched a video of hers but hey that’s what the title says

[hidden pagoda]

clickbait fs

[ripe path]

I agree with u but then why she so famous on this game

[next arrow]

She's a prolific Clickbaiter lol

[hidden pagoda]

she's good at something, but it's definitely not spreading truth

[ripe path]

Lmao

[next arrow]

But this update quite literally has the community divided, and in the worst way possible. This much community division can be horrible reputation for EW and could potentially kill the game (the community division not the updaye itself)

[ripe path]

Game gon lose most players

[hidden pagoda]

but yeah bouncing between fallow and whitetail is working great for me

respawning like normal

[next arrow]

Watching a Lady Video is a Headache any% speedrun

[ripe path]

Only thing I find fun in this game is the reward of finishing the grind, in any other way f this game

[hidden pagoda]

you quite literally just have to do two grinds at once

[next arrow]

Most people aren't gonna wanna do that though ya know? I know I don't, it sounds mad annoying to me when before I could devote all my time to one grind for an extended amount of time

[hidden pagoda]

tho some species may take longer

[hidden pagoda]

sure yeah

[ripe path]

Imma just play ncaa 25 fck this

[next arrow]

Bear and Moose are gonna become a borderline impossibility

Tahr...I don't even wanna think about Tahr

[ripe path]

Weren’t they already on the harder side

[lyric kite]

tahr grind is effectively dead

[hidden pagoda]

yes

[next arrow]

Idrc about Red Deer they're hella boring anyway

[lyric kite]

ps4 graphics make them impossible to see in the bushes anyway

[hidden pagoda]

I agree this update is a mistake

but there is at least some sort of workaround for some species

[next arrow]

They very much were with bear and Tahr being a tie for hardest

[lyric kite]

the tahr wander so bad too, they're never anywhere near their zones

[ripe path]

Whoever made this update is cooked

[hidden pagoda]

fr

[acoustic cedar]

Haven’t been on yet- been recording great one 10 video and another thingy

[next arrow]

If you search hard enough you'll always find a little polish on a turd you know?

[ripe path]

Red deer I found fun for a first time grind

[hidden pagoda]

mel I'll tell you right now
your animals won't respawn within 20 minutes

[ripe path]

I think red deer is great for your first great one

[acoustic cedar]

Huh ok

Interesting

[hidden pagoda]

and spook range for tents seems to be somewhere around 190-230m depending on the species

[acoustic cedar]

Hmmm

I shall need to experience this

[ripe path]

Now all I have left fun to play is battle front 2 and cfb 25

[hidden pagoda]

fs it'd be nice to get more thoughts on this

[next arrow]

It's debatably the worst update ever released for grinders

Nah not debatably it 100% is

[ripe path]

Yeah you, kreed and somewhat me are the only ones talking here

[hidden pagoda]

ngl I disagree

[acoustic cedar]

Apologies I can’t give much more feedback rn

[hidden pagoda]

then again I'm going to reference something from 2020 again

[acoustic cedar]

Been busy getting todays work sorted

[hidden pagoda]

but

[acoustic cedar]

But I be on soon

[hidden pagoda]

when great ones used to show up as level 4 and level 5 whitetail

that was the worst grinding ever was

[next arrow]

I'm very pissed but Im trying to remain civil about it

[next arrow]

You know what yeah, second Worst, but still

[lyric kite]

they'll do something in the next bug patch that makes it even worse and we'll all be expected to sit patiently and wait for a fix that never comes

that's the pattern i'm seeing here and it makes me uneasy

[hidden pagoda]

however as far as intentional changes

yes this is the worst

[lyric kite]

the thing that gets me is that they could have just as easily... not done this

[hidden pagoda]

this has been a pattern for years honestly

each update brought more issues than fixes and we'd just have to wait for weeks to months until they fixed it

[lyric kite]

i've been in a room before when a community manager makes a call for the game with the exact words: the players will hate it, but we're doing it anyway

i never liked it

hate to see it here

[next arrow]

Worst part is we we're supposed to get another week before the update dropped

[hidden pagoda]

yeah

[crude spindle]

@acoustic cedar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcOG5iZpV-k you rn

[hidden pagoda]

I do disagree with how they hide info from us

also it seems tents are back to uh

not rendering animals in if you spawn right on top of them

so dual zones are a thing again

[acoustic cedar]

Legit lol

[hidden pagoda]

yeah dual grinding between fallow and wt is working just fine for now

tho it seems more like 30 minutes

[scenic quiver]

Yeah. I was experiencing it earlier when I jumped in. I didn't fast travel to the other side to spawn them in, just got out of tripod and boom, deer appeared all around me.

[hidden pagoda]

might have to just grind on 2-3 maps at a time

[hidden pagoda]

yup

[next arrow]

That's just...yeah this is the worst intended update of all time

[hidden pagoda]

yeah

I'm gonna leave my setups as is

wait and see if they're gonna do another hotfix because they're going to get a lot of backlash

if not I'll just try the 16 zone idea and settle for like 40-50 deer an hour

which means hm is also going to be less effective

[mellow marlin]

Whats happening with the respawns

[hidden pagoda]

you gotta wait 30 minutes or so

irl

[mellow marlin]

Na u trippin

[hidden pagoda]

you can't force respawns anymore

[mellow marlin]

Bruh what

[hidden pagoda]

yep

[scenic quiver]

Yep

[mellow marlin]

Time to breathe air

[hidden pagoda]

yeah exactly

time to take a couple deep breaths

go for a walk

[mellow marlin]

And why are people mad about it

[hidden pagoda]

and bark at the devs until they change it

[hidden pagoda]

ruins grinding

completely destroys efficiency

[wary mason]

Sre you actually fr

Can EW just stop butchering the game

[hidden pagoda]

yep, we're going back to 2020 setups with 16 zones and running to claim.

[mellow marlin]

I mean yea it does but like you can do sm else in yo life than grinding 24/7

[wary mason]

I mean this respectfully

[hidden pagoda]

I agree lol
but they're killing their game with this

[lyric kite]

i do lots of other things other than grinding

but when i play this game, i grind

[hidden pagoda]

yeah I only grind 2-4 hours a day maybe 3 days a week

[mellow marlin]

Well I guess grinds will be fk ed up

[still summit]

I don't think making people not play your game is a smart business model

[hidden pagoda]

like I said tho

[mellow marlin]

Its time to hunt for real now no grind no more

[hidden pagoda]

we'll find a workaround

[wary mason]

That's me not gonna be touching the game for when I have time to spare, only got like 2hrs to grind and you're telling me I can't even be efficient?

[hidden pagoda]

"time to hunt realistically in my arcade hunting game"

[lyric kite]

i dont like hunting for real

i like to grind. that's why i play the way i play

[hidden pagoda]

fr

[mellow marlin]

Ye i dont even know thats what i do when im really bored

Go in the game

And hunt

[hidden pagoda]

if I wanted to be patient and whatever

I'd go outside and fish

[mellow marlin]

Or ye

Well if they really do ruin grinds then their game will fall down

[crude spindle]

Nothing like logging on to cotw to spend the majority of my time walking around

[hidden pagoda]

but yes general consensus

update bad

[iron mango]

I’ll just wait for deer season in irl

[acoustic cedar]

Have you guys made a feedback thingy?

[lyric kite]

some people act like if you shoot more than one animal per play session you're an irl poacher

[hidden pagoda]

there's like

80 of em

people are very unhappy

[acoustic cedar]

Oh dang

[iron mango]

I uninstalled

[hidden pagoda]

each and every one of those has 10-150 likes

[acoustic cedar]

Forgive me being behind lol

[hidden pagoda]

nah ur good

here's the rundown

[zealous ferry]

#1265308728798744667

[mellow marlin]

I only got a messed up great one and I am good with it

[acoustic cedar]

I shall has a peek

[visual glen]

Can SR spawn while dirty grinding?

[hidden pagoda]

yeah

[lyric kite]

rares and diamonds can spawn but GOs wont

[hidden pagoda]

you just can't get GOs dirty grinding

[lyric kite]

is what ive heard

[zealous ferry]

It’s… really negative. People are just leaving the game

[hidden pagoda]

yep

[acoustic cedar]

Jesus it’s that bad?

[mellow marlin]

What does that mean

[acoustic cedar]

Oh boi

[lyric kite]

idk if i'll leave but honestly the tahr really let me down to begin with. waiting a whole year for a new GO that's just a pain to hunt was already bad enough

then the tent changes, now the respawn changes

[acoustic cedar]

Yeah

[lyric kite]

i'm not ragequitting but i am very disappointed

[hidden pagoda]

tbh anyone that didn't experience og grinding expects instant respawns and 60-100 kills an hour, this update completely brings us back to the stone age of grinding before we thought of using claim tents

[acoustic cedar]

Oh god it’s stream day huh

[hidden pagoda]

I'm not quitting the game

[acoustic cedar]

Guess I’m not going to that stream lmaooo

[mellow marlin]

Can they change this with all the feedback?

[hidden pagoda]

I'm just going to wait and see if they do a change back like they did with shooting spook radius

[lyric kite]

it means if you dont pick up your kills you're probably not gonna get a GO. jaxy has confirmed

[acoustic cedar]

So like my first grinds then lol

[hidden pagoda]

yep, I've said it before and I'll say it again.
we've gotta go back to 2020 style 16 zones and running to claim

[mellow marlin]

So if u like harvested like 80 animals and u didnt harvest the last one will it all reset

[wary mason]

Understandably and I agree

[hidden pagoda]

you have to make your run take half an hour irl and that's really the only way to do that if you don't wanna sit and wait

it blows chunks

[lyric kite]

i don't think anyone knows exactly how it works. i think it's just that if you kill an animal, dont pick it up, and it respawns anyway- that respawn can never be a GO

[wary mason]

Genuinely do EW listen or care about the player base

[crude spindle]

I gotta take a deep breath man the more I think about this the dumber it is that they did this

[lyric kite]

if you kill 80 animals and pick them all up but miss one or two, it wont be terrible

[zealous ferry]

I uninstalled… I can understand needing to review grinds and maybe nerfs… but the way they did it is just malicious, I woke up today to find out they basically kicked us out if the game. It honestly feels like such a big betrayal. Specially after jaxy saying they were not targeting us and that it was just bug fixing.

[hidden pagoda]

it does feel malicious I agree

[crude spindle]

A week ago I would’ve said it’s not malicious but it is for sure now

[zealous ferry]

I really wanted to believe too. But now it’s clear they don’t want us here

[hidden pagoda]

that's correct yes

[crude spindle]

You cannot make those changes without realizing how that affects us

[lyric kite]

most changes that go against player's wishes are usually based on squeezing more money out of the community. as far as i can tell, there isn't any financial incentive for this change

[hidden pagoda]

yeah idk why they even did this

unless they're trying to make it more realistic for some reason

but this game doesn't fit that bill

[indigo fractal]

now its just a blatant target imo, before the only thing getting severely affected was tahr but now everything is just straight up inconvenient and barely possible

[lyric kite]

which would be ridiculous considering we have GOs, pure mela tigers

[zealous ferry]

It’s actually the opposite grinders carried the game during the year without content

[hidden pagoda]

it's 7 years old, it's always been arcady, it's way too late to do that

[wary mason]

I've uninstalled the game, I'm not supporting em anymore, I gave my chances with stupid changes but this is a little stupid

[hidden pagoda]

I'm gonna wait it out

I dont think they'll be getting any more of my money for new DLCs

[lyric kite]

oh yes i just meant in general, for other games. in this case we dont have micro-transactions, and once you buy the map you unlock all of the content on it regardless of how much time you spend in game (there are no ads, so they can't be making money that way)

[hidden pagoda]

but I don't think I'm done playing the game either

[lyric kite]

grinders are the best advertising this game has

[indigo fractal]

im probably not gonna uninstall, i want to hear what EW has to say about this and that will determine whether or not i uninstall

[wary mason]

It was an arcade game ever since WOTH came out and now they have competitors they get scared and end up running the game

[crude spindle]

I’ve sad it once I’ll say it a million times, making fantastical great ones made this game unrealistic, that ship has sailed. There is no bear with a skull on its face or orange moose, or hunting range that lets you kill tigers or snow leopards

[still summit]

And the engine can't support any changes that would make it a realistic arcady game (same playstyle, but with TrueSize, longer render distance, dynamic zones)

[hidden pagoda]

honestly it's time to get this game to a solid stopping point

[wary mason]

Realistically the only reason this game gets money and is alive is because of grinders 💀

[hidden pagoda]

and just let it rest

make a new game

[lyric kite]

i think that's where we're at. hunter 3 would be better than trying to turn cotw into something its not

[hidden pagoda]

fr

[still summit]

Africa 2.0 then go again

[lyric kite]

i just wanted them to add map markers so i remember which of my zones are decent

or where i last saw something cool

so i can come back to it later

[hidden pagoda]

it's like watching some corporation twist your childhood superhero into some villain that's been manipulating everyone

[wary mason]

EW feels like it's ran by Joe Biden

[hidden pagoda]

sure it doesn't matter, it's insignificant in the grand scheme of things, but I still feel betrayed

[hidden pagoda]

LMFAO

MINNESOTA

[wary mason]

Uhhhh listen to uhh the player base? Maybe uhhh uhh... does something that genuinely harms the game

Like I'm all for change but when it gets too drastic it's just harming your game at that point

[hidden pagoda]

it's a bad change, yes

but I'm just gonna work around it

this game serves as my source of entertainment when everything else fails so

[covert dawn]

Hear me out, have a little faith, only tiger respawns were supposed to be affected, maybe other animals being affected as well is unintentional? I dont know, this sucks

[hidden pagoda]

hopefully that's the case

[wary mason]

Better be

[sacred ore]

hold up what happened?

[lyric kite]

tigers have a special note about their respawns but there's another patch note that seems to apply to every animal in game

[hidden pagoda]

respawns take 30 minutes

I'll keep it short and sweet for ya

[sacred ore]

wtf? for all animals?

[lyric kite]

yes

[crude spindle]

Rule number 1 bruh

[wary mason]

Yep

[hidden pagoda]

you cannot work around it either, you have to have the game open and running for 30 minutes for stuff to respawn

[wary mason]

It wasn't a political statement tho I just said a figure

A famous figure

[hidden pagoda]

erm actually that's rule 4 🤓

[wary mason]

So go eat brik

!!!!

[lyric kite]

nah you knew what you were doing

[crude spindle]

Eat short!!!!

[wary mason]

And that being?

[crude spindle]

Leave Maya alone, it’s not their fault the brain rot

[hidden pagoda]

yep

we don't know if it's intentional yet

we know it is for tigers at the very least

[lyric kite]

its very clearly intentional

[hidden pagoda]

and we know pretty much everyone is against it

[covert dawn]

It cant last, there is no way, there is way too much backlash

[wary mason]

I literally just said a famous figure who's known for being extremely slow in the head and used that as a comparison to poke a little fun at a company there's literally nothing political attached to that 💀

[hidden pagoda]

I'm keeping my hopes high

[zealous ferry]

The patch notes clearly say it’s for all of them

[hidden pagoda]

true

it just doesn't make sense

[lyric kite]

except that its a political figure but sure

[covert dawn]

There were two different patch notes that said two different things

[hidden pagoda]

oh hush

lemme rephrase it for her

it feels like ew is ran by an 82 year old man with dementia

[lyric kite]

that i cant argue with

[crude spindle]

I was just messing with you dawg

Sorry

[wary mason]

Nah ur good it's just the other people 💀

[crude spindle]

I was joking gang I promise

[wary mason]

Don't worry you're still my favourite person to bully 🤝

[crude spindle]

I’m gonna miss you guys once they make it so you can only shoot one tahr per day 😔

[next arrow]

They gotta revert this chit immediately

Like

Today

[wary mason]

😔

[next arrow]

It's miserable out here

[wary mason]

Can't believe I've wasted money on this game tbh

[hidden pagoda]

too many people are upset with this

they'll revert it

[wary mason]

One of the few things I regret is spending money on cotw

[hidden pagoda]

and if they don't they'll lose half of their playerbase

[lyric kite]

they're going to introduce a system where you have to apply for moose tags and then have to win a lottery to shoot 1 (one) moose

[manic rover]

If they don’t I’m headed to woth

[lyric kite]

and then you're done for the season

you know, to make it realistic

[wary mason]

Arcade game? No woth came out it's now realistic

[next arrow]

I love the game but this decision is stupid and the playerbase will be impacted negatively regardless

[hidden pagoda]

that's exactly why I have faith they're going to revert it lol

damn near everyone that's been playing this game for more than a week is going to quit if they don't

[manic rover]

Or I will buy an arcade machine

[wary mason]

People pick cotw over woth, even cotw being arcade so I donr see their point

[zealous ferry]

The worst part about this is that they never revert stuff, historically. They maybe tone it down somehow, but the moment they changes it we lost.

[hidden pagoda]

or hell just make the respawn time like 10 minutes

not 30

[lyric kite]

if woth were more like cotw in that there was a rare for each species i might play it

[manic rover]

Deer hunter 2017 on my iPhone

[next arrow]

Less than half, alot less, but they'll lose the most loyal part of their playerbase

Which is the worst thing for a hame

[wary mason]

Just put it back to normal and increase the spook and tent range with gunshots if you don't want grinding to be so efficient

There, simple

[hidden pagoda]

I could settle for 10 cuz that means normal grinding still works AND it patches the tiger 3 lake deal

[next arrow]

Because id gladly sink in 10K hours, but if I can't grind then what's the point after I get a rare/diamond of every species?

[hidden pagoda]

I feel like a 10 minute respawn time is acceptable

[covert dawn]

Even that would be fine, people wont be able to be able to farm 1-3 spots could do a full grind run

And have respawns by the end of it

[hidden pagoda]

exactly

it forces you to use like 6-8 zones or more

[next arrow]

Separate tigers and everything else tbh

[covert dawn]

Which almost all grinders already do

[lyric kite]

cotw seems to think the best way to handle these things is to make the change completely unbearable so everyone hates it, and then slightly make it more acceptable so people are grateful enough to stop complaining

[crude spindle]

Tiger change is bad too though

[lyric kite]

it gets old

[hidden pagoda]

and would mostly stop the tiger abuse if their goal is that

[covert dawn]

I do wonder though

[next arrow]

It is but I'd rather wait a hella long time for tigers and be able to grind great ones then not be able to grind anything

[hidden pagoda]

idk it's hard to reason with people that seem to not even know what they want with the game

[covert dawn]

Could one just have 3 GO grinds going at once and that would be a workaround for now

[hidden pagoda]

it does work, yes.

but not everyone wants to do that

temporarily? great workaround!

[lyric kite]

i have 3 GO grinds and its fine to break up monotony but it does slow your progress considerably

[hidden pagoda]

but for the rest of this game's life? nah.

[covert dawn]

It makes GO grinding locked for newer players though, you need about 2 mil just to afford 3 setupds

Setups

[lyric kite]

thats true too

[hidden pagoda]

you could also just use 16 zones and run to claim the animals, but either way you're going to be at a great loss in efficiency

[manic rover]

When I come back on vacation it better be fixed

[hidden pagoda]

considering that means 30-60 deer an hour

[crude spindle]

You shouldn’t have to choose

[hidden pagoda]

don't get your hopes up with something that probs won't happen

[next arrow]

560K for a full great one setup (16 tents 8 tripods) so yeah

[next arrow]

You most definitely shouldn't but if it comes to that, then yeah

[manic rover]

Maybe if I say it it will come true🙏

[covert dawn]

16 tents 16 tripods, running to harvest would buy that little extra time to reach 30 minutes

[hidden pagoda]

yep!

that's how I used to grind pre rancho

it was slow but it worked and was still fun

[covert dawn]

I honestly kinda like doing slower grinds where you have to run and not instantly fast travel to claim, its a great way to do little side grinds of other animals

Like blue sheep with tahr, RME with black bear, etc

[hidden pagoda]

^^^

here was my old setup

from when they drank EVERYWHERE

I unironically miss that

but yeah, 16 tents 16 tripods and running to claim does work

[covert dawn]

This game is lucky I love it so much even after a bug wiped all my data of 5 years last summer

[hidden pagoda]

yikes

[willow otter]

Quit complaining and adapt to the changes lol it’s not that hard. Just because they made the game a little harder doesn’t mean it’s impossible to grind it might be a little harder but I like a challenge myself and if you don’t i advise that you find a new game to play because not everything is a piece of cake in this game you have to put in a little effort

[hidden pagoda]

simpler times

[hidden pagoda]

this is the point I half stand with

on one hand

they messed things up in a way nobody wanted

they're going to lose players

on the other hand, it means things just take a little longer

[lyric kite]

the problem is they keep doing this

[hidden pagoda]

you can very well work around it.
it's just that not many people really want to

[lyric kite]

like if this was a one off bad call, fine, let's all give them the benefit of the doubt

but for a lot of people its just the straw that broke the camel's back

[hidden pagoda]

it's not their first bad call

and plenty of people I know "quit the game for good" 4 times already

[zealous ferry]

It’s like the fourth or fifth in about a month

[hidden pagoda]

I swore I was done grinding when they reset layton pops for the first time when I was 4300 kills deep
I swore I was done when they reset layton pops for the second, third, fourth, and fifth time
I swore I was done when they dropped the 60fps for the series S
I swore I was done when they patched dirty grinding
I swore I was done when I was over 10k without a GO
but never did I actually quit

because tbh grinding in this game is straight up addictive, I feel like most of us develop a sort of gambler's fallacy when grinding

[lyric kite]

i mean i felt the same way about pokemon. kept getting worse and worse but i bought every game just hoping they'd magically get better

but they did not, and after 20 years i no longer play

[hidden pagoda]

mhm

it might just be high time for another month break from this game

[crude spindle]

I got a new wow expansion, Fortnite just got a good update, I can be gone if need be

[zealous ferry]

The thing about this is that all those changes were not really hurtful to the mechanics themselves, annoying yeah. But this one is different, you are messing with the bases of grinding

[crude spindle]

Not like I was gonna get a tahr when it was viable

[hidden pagoda]

and that is true

[zealous ferry]

Bro I’ve just reinstalled valorant 💀💀

That an at least the warframe devs actually care about the player base

[hidden pagoda]

but killing off dirty grinding meant everyone that was doing that had to change their setups completely

[crude spindle]

You’re cooked

[hidden pagoda]

we thought it was gonna be a massive change to how the game was and how efficient grinds are, but tbh it was a blessing in disguise

I'm not suggesting this is the same

but I am suggesting that we're giving up too easily

[next arrow]

Warframe goated

Literally me rn

[vale bone]

love me some argie action

[next arrow]

Electric Argie from the Primal Chaos mod

It's a pretty good tame

[vale bone]

I was a PS4 player for over 700 hours lol. never played with a mod before

might try it with PC tho. it's only a dollar on g2a

[next arrow]

I have nearly 10K hours on PvP for PS4 XD

I'm on ASA PS5 and I have like 50 mods downloaded

Gonna play mostly ark until they make the change to fix it

Or just do casual hunts for videos

[wary mason]

This made me cackle 💀

Cause its true

[crude spindle]

I play plenty of games where they actually listen and respect even the least played playstyles

[wary mason]

Well I play ubi games so I'm used to bad companies not listening to their fans

[crude spindle]

What average player even knows about respawns enough to go back to a zone, they're going to go away for 30 minutes on their own anyways

[wary mason]

I came from playing R* games

[crude spindle]

I play mainly Blizzard stuff, used to do a lot more but I couldn't keep up after battle passes took over stuff like cod siege etc.

[wary mason]

My main games are tcm siege n HD2

HD2, the company that owns them is actually just the best

[next arrow]

Rank?

[wary mason]

Don't touch ranked

Waste of time

[empty cape]

To bring it back on topic, what was "dirty grinding?" Was it leaving the kills to rot back in the day?

[next arrow]

I mean you're right but still like to ask

[wary mason]

Only play with the bros for fun

[next arrow]

Yep

[empty cape]

Ahh okay - was one of those haha, know it's been changed since then

[wary mason]

I'll agree w that change cause it actually makes people put effort

[empty cape]

Yeah deff can't complain about that one lol

[wary mason]

I try to love this game but they just keep changing it and it becomes harder yk

Like with all the complaining I do yeah, that's natural everyone complains about their main game, I still like the game at the end of the day

Like I love siege and tcm but I still say I hate n complain ab it

[potent wing]

I don’t think a g1 will be posted in here for awhile

[wary mason]

Don't think anything will be

Unless it's from multi

The games already boring why make it more boring by waiting 30 minutes

Atleast make it like 10

[potent wing]

Ima just take a break until they do something about it

I really wanted to spawn my 3rd tahr before that update

[next arrow]

Yeah they really fudged people over with that, they said two weeks and were like "ehhh nvm"

[crude spindle]

I wanted to spawn my first

[frozen pike]

any tips for snow leopards?

[next arrow]

You know what I think us Civil people over here in the great ones channel are a lot more sane then gen chat

[next arrow]

ProXCK has an amazing video on them

[magic hatch]

Mainly cause it’s people who don’t grind going “no you just crying”

[frozen pike]

I watched it and I watched Ron’s and still struggling

[magic hatch]

Which is fine, but telling people they can’t criticize the update because they really weren’t effected

[next arrow]

Hmmm, well, I sadly can't help but, is there anything specifically you're struggling with?

[frozen pike]

Just finding them really

[next arrow]

Yeah it's kind of crazy honestly

[next arrow]

Well, I have most luck near the top leftmost outpost in the snow when I'm on Multiplayer, try there

[frozen pike]

Okay thanks

[next arrow]

If that doesn't work, follow the long mountain trail, they can spawn alongside the ridges of it so they could also be there

[frozen pike]

Appreciate it

[next arrow]

Np, always like to help when I can

[tiny kestrel]

Wow they really f’d over grinders huh

[plush gull]

The crazy part is they said the tents were supposed to work like that all along when the new map first came out but now it’s a bug🤣

[wary mason]

It's either a bug that they then lie and say it wasn't intentional but end up keeping it

[frozen pike]

Are the snow leopards real, like for sure?

[tiny kestrel]

So, if I’m understanding correctly, they made it to where kills don’t respawn immediately when you exit to main menu and go back into the reserve?

[frozen pike]

I got one leucistic one time and they have now disappeared

[wary mason]

I'll never believe if they say something is a bug or unintentional

[frozen pike]

Yes

[crude spindle]

Holy chit things so bad you’re here

[wary mason]

30 minute timer on respsawns

30 IRL minutes*

[frozen pike]

Irl minutes

Yeah

[tiny kestrel]

wow.

[wary mason]

It is back to 2020 grinding

But worse

[frozen pike]

When is EW stream?

[strange kindle]

7pm CET i guess

[zealous ferry]

I’m still waiting on the last minute cancel for the stream

[tiny kestrel]

I was legitimately considering coming back to this game and grinding bears and tahr since I’m still missing their GOs

[strange kindle]

True 😂

[wary mason]

Sorry to hear that

[next arrow]

Yeah they are XD sorry you can't find any.

[wary mason]

They do that so much 💀

[tiny kestrel]

Would be surprised if they don’t cancel it lol

[wary mason]

Like to the point it's actually not believable that an issue came up

[frozen pike]

Lmao, like I said I got one rare female and now they’ve gone extinct

[next arrow]

We're you the guy that got the Albino?

[frozen pike]

Nope

[plush gull]

Even if they don’t like grinding there is just no way they can be ok with it for multiple years then just kill it all at once

[frozen pike]

Leucistic

[tiny kestrel]

They’ve actively said they encourage both types of play styles

[plush gull]

Clearly not lol

[tiny kestrel]

Only to then continuously implement changes that hinder grinders

[next arrow]

Oh that's still amazing, congratulations man

[frozen pike]

Thanks!

[tiny kestrel]

With this “bug fix” they’ve basically killed off grinding

[wary mason]

"We encourage not listening to the player base"

[plush gull]

I wanted the distance to stay the same but was fine if it went back. But making respawns take longer?

[wary mason]

5 or 10 mins would be an acceptable time to wait for respawns imo

[frozen pike]

Not no damn 30

Insane

[gritty tendon]

is there any way that we can stop the game from update on steam and still play it?

[strange kindle]

What annoys me the most is that they didn't say anything about it. And they didn't even bother to write it in the patch notes

[wary mason]

Like I'll be down to spend 10 mins and actually put effort into it

[tiny kestrel]

Did it explicitly say 30 minutes anywhere? If it was in the patch notes I must’ve missed it

[frozen pike]

I was gonna try

[gritty tendon]

i haven't downloaded it and i sure as hell won't if there's a way that i can't

[north nova]

The words "thirty minutes" were not said tmk

[frozen pike]

People have tested it though pretty sure

[tiny kestrel]

Imagine they actually do the stream and they tell us it’s even longer

[crude spindle]

This is why we put numbers in the patch notes 🤦

[tiny kestrel]

God forbid they tell us effin’ anything about this game

[wary mason]

There's alot of neglect which is why I'm not really a supporter of EW kinda.
It sets a bad business model (if that's the phrase idk) overall a really bad look if they don't put things into the patch notes, it honesly looks really lazy in my eyes

[plush gull]

What’s the fun in that, why not make our player base test it themselves 😀

[strange kindle]

STREAM

[crude spindle]

Stream

[lyric kite]

yeah if you want people to buy your product with their actual money you should probably be open about whats in that product

[wary mason]

I'm being fully honest here not tryna hate or anything.

Not putting what you've patched or changed in the PATCH notes makes you look incredibly lazy and shady.

[tiny kestrel]

I used to enjoy this game a lot before they began implementing changes specifically to make my play style a hell of a lot more frustrating and tedious

[wary mason]

It is like making soup but not saying the fact that it's got potential allergens in it, that will deter people away.

[gritty tendon]

quite honestly i'm surprised they're still even doing a stream today

they have to know such a large portion of the community is gonna be pissed

[tiny kestrel]

It really feels like they’re just using Jaxy as damage control at this point

[crude spindle]

let the stream play out

I don't think it's this giant scheme

they're just not making good decisions

[tiny kestrel]

Lmao chat is NOT happy

[gritty tendon]

still really really weird they say they're not doing things against grinders

and yet

we have this update

like this is only going to add fuel to the fire

[crude spindle]

Tigers are the only respawn change did i hear that right?

[tiny kestrel]

yeah.

[next arrow]

🧢

[zealous ferry]

Bro the stream is a carnage

[still summit]

Only tigers have been changed indeed. I remember my fallow, tahr and red deer taking 20 minutes to respawn yesterday.

[daring kindle]

Lies

You’re lying

[next arrow]

That bad? I'm too lazy to watch, just keep me updated please

[daring kindle]

^^

[crude spindle]

Why let us continue for a few hours thinking that the respawns were changed across the board and not come in and clarify?

[next arrow]

Or any one of the guys I've been talking to over the past few hours

[next arrow]

Seriously

[tiny kestrel]

Did he

Did he seriously just say

[zealous ferry]

Jaxy is blatantly lying in our faces 😂😂😂 i cant believe this

[tiny kestrel]

That going into the main menu is an exploit

[zealous ferry]

He said is a placebo effect man

I cant believe this

[indigo fractal]

so what im getting from this is that now they got rid of the main menu officially, making it so now we do have to wait 30+ minutes. so respawns are cooked and grinding is cooked

[heavy vortex]

Oop what

[gritty tendon]

this stream has already been just a bunch of BS and we're not even 20 minutes in lol

[wary mason]

I used to look up to jaxy and trust him now idk if I can with all of this controversy lmao

[zealous ferry]

Well he said it

They don’t want us to play like this

[wary mason]

I beg your finest, distilled pardon

[daring kindle]

Wait

If I have a tent on a zone do they still spawn

Just instantly spook

[indigo fractal]

what? im not shakespeare bro, pls unshakespeareify this

[wary mason]

I beg your pardon

[tiny kestrel]

WHY CNAT HE GIVE US AN EXACT NUMBER

[wary mason]

" "

[tiny kestrel]

WHAT THE HELL

[wary mason]

I think they are all scared of numbers at ew

[indigo fractal]

fr lol

[tiny kestrel]

They’re afraid of us knowing numbers

[wary mason]

This whole controversy got me wanting to make an essay vid on it who wants to give me resources dude

[heavy vortex]

I fw that heavy

[still summit]

Tahr are still very grindable 😂

[wary mason]

I'll say what the content creators are scared to say 🗣

[still summit]

I saw Zaggi waiting 20 minutes for respawns just a few hours ago

[wary mason]

(No hate towards content creators)

[still summit]

Lady said she got about 5 kills per hour

Very grindable btw

[crude spindle]

WOAH WOAH WOAH

[wary mason]

I don't like lady, but that's making me sympathise with her

[next arrow]

I wouldn't believe a word outta her mouth. Not now it ever

[crude spindle]

Tahr g1 are slightly easier to get?

Did anyone just hear that

[wary mason]

Yea right

[next arrow]

Huh???

[daring kindle]

Many grinders have told him it’s still easy?

Ya right

[indigo fractal]

AINT NO WAY LOLLLLL

[wary mason]

You know what else is easy?

Listening to the majority of your playerbase

[daring kindle]

Everyone in chat is against him

The entire stream

And he’s just ranting

[next arrow]

Good

[willow dirge]

lets boycott the game

[next arrow]

I mean he personally doesn't deserve it but we need to get our points across

[next arrow]

I'd be down for that

[crude spindle]

Guys let’s just let Jaxy finish talking

[wary mason]

As an og of 5 years I can fully say, I do not like how this game has went. And I'm someone who doesn't care how a game changes, I'm aware games change to fit the playerbases and playstyles but how COTW is going? I wouldn't even touch it if I was a new player

[gritty tendon]

am i allowed to throw a YT link in here that shows how to make sure you don't get the update on steam?

[daring kindle]

He isn’t reading chat he’s just trying to cover their asses

[wary mason]

It's a link mods will spite you prolly

[tiny kestrel]

Reviewbombing the game is a more effective approach imo

[daring kindle]

Yolo

[tiny kestrel]

Worked for Helldivers, might work here

[crude spindle]

He’s explaining where they’re at, he’s not being mean or bad or anything

[wary mason]

If you want this ask to dm them

^

[tiny kestrel]

Hs gaslighting tf out of chat lol

[daring kindle]

I want my money back

Idc

[zealous ferry]

Bro fr

We are getting neglected on real time 😂

[wary mason]

Hd2 is okay though, they just have a heavy GET BETTER attitude and I'm all for it 💀

[wary mason]

Same tbh

[wary mason]

I absolutely love reading people complain about the difficulty and they respond with "get better"

[crude spindle]

He did tell us we were wrong about respawns

[still summit]

Change the way you swap between zeroing after 7 years, gaslight the community that the devs 'need to fix every bug, don't just leave in some`

[daring kindle]

Let us know in the discord 😭

[crude spindle]

Tents kinda suck but it’s not as bad

[daring kindle]

We have been telling you

[tiny kestrel]

Reviewbombing was enough to get Sony to change their goddamn minds, and they’re infamously stubborn. They reverted a decision they were gonna make for HD2

[wary mason]

OH THAT, yeah sony was so stupid on that one

I thought you were talking about the difficulty for a second tbh

Ikwym now

[tiny kestrel]

No no no lol

[daring kindle]

I’m gonna sue EW

EW GET YOUR LAWYERS READY

[wary mason]

That will work because they are cared of numbers

[tiny kestrel]

“They’re not targeting any play style” that’s just not true lol

[spiral raft]

Fax

[daring kindle]

Targeting all grinders

[wary mason]

That makes cheaters look good "I don't hack"

[zealous ferry]

10 minutes ago he literally said we are not part the vision

[wary mason]

All of this makes me stop wondering why people download mods on a hunting game 😭

[next arrow]

Fr?

[daring kindle]

Let’s change things that don’t need to be changed instead of stopping hackers n shi

[crude spindle]

Guys he’s kinda telling us to chill if we want to be taken seriously maybe we should listen?

[daring kindle]

They will never take us seriously

[indigo fractal]

they wont try to fix multiplayer plagued with modders but they make it so grinders cant get GO's as easy which will likely turn some into modders and people killing GO's in modded servers

[daring kindle]

When have the ever

[wary mason]

We have given our time multiple times and they've just thrown us under the bus

[daring kindle]

Give me one example of when they listened to us

[crude spindle]

The real problem today was the respawns and he said straight up it’s only for tigers

[wary mason]

(Grinders are also practically 99% of the playerbase)

[wary mason]

It's hard to find one, because it's so unrememberable

Non memorable?

Whatever you get my point lol

[daring kindle]

IM DEAD

[wary mason]

LMFAOOOO

[indigo fractal]

thats the best thing ive heard

[crude spindle]

5% according to Jaxy

[tiny kestrel]

As consumers of product we’re allowed to be upset about something they do to it, we’re allowed to voice our opinions so long as we don’t get aggressive/attack people

[wary mason]

Someone who's actually funny who's from this community

[wary mason]

NO WAY HE USED A NUMBER

[crude spindle]

He did

[daring kindle]

Ok I’m gonna go kill bears

Let’s see how this goes

[wary mason]

Holy SHWART

[crude spindle]

Also he would know more me and you tbf

[wary mason]

Well us grinders are speaking for ourselves

[indigo fractal]

exactly, most of the people who spend dozens of dollars, hundreds and thousands of hours spending on the game and they are targeting us with updates that make it so we hate the game and leave. Genius.

[tiny kestrel]

Missed it 😭, what was the number

[wary mason]

I play the game both grinding and running about, not multi hopping anymore but I do both

[still summit]

LMAO all we changed is respawns on tigers

[indigo fractal]

thats a lie

[wary mason]

@tiny kestrel

[indigo fractal]

every animal is severely messed up with respawns right now

[still summit]

''Animals will no longer instantly respawn when a Player reenters a map. It will now take a normal amount of time for them to reappear on the map as originally intended.``

[wary mason]

Biggest brain move

[wary mason]

Normal being 5 years

[indigo fractal]

bruh

[wary mason]

Why don't you add an aging cycle at this point

[indigo fractal]

im done with this game, im quitting

[wary mason]

Can't wait for my level 1 to grow into a GO

[still summit]

He says this patch only affects tigers

When that line is in the patch

[wary mason]

You'll be back in a month

Sadly we all will

[indigo fractal]

probably

[still summit]

Nah unless this gets changed I will just quit

As in not come back

Already uninstalled

[wary mason]

Ngl you're the only person with a Kanye pfp I actually respect

You're not a silly individual

Bman bouta spite the hell outa us rn

[spring cedar]

Jaxy just said that respawns are still the same. That main menu didn’t actually respawn them, the time taken for you to go to the menu they had already respawned, tigers are the only species that was changed

[wary mason]

Hi bmannnnnnn

[crude spindle]

Notice how Jaxy said new reserve before new weapon pack 👀

[gritty tendon]

why do the patch notes say otherwise?

[wary mason]

Won't believe it he's already lied like 5 times 😭

[spring cedar]

Probably just a mistake, not the first time it’s happened

[daring kindle]

Every person I’ve spoken to now has no respawns

[wary mason]

Also not the first time they've done somn and not told us

[next arrow]

Hold up

Hold up

[spring cedar]

My stuff is still respawning normally

[next arrow]

Why ain't we pissed no more??

[wary mason]

"It was an unintentional bug..."

"But now we are keeping it"

[daring kindle]

I’m testing mine rn

[crude spindle]

Because respawn changes are only for tigers not for everything

[wary mason]

We have all got our dummies and waiting to be told info

We have calmed our tatas

[gritty tendon]

it's either that or jaxy missing that part of the patch notes

[next arrow]

My ass my moose still ain't respawned

[next arrow]

Ah okay, I gotcha

[wary mason]

Moose are kinda ass anyways especially on MVT

Tbh

Will say this, it feels like in this community if you aren't a creator you won't be heard. Felt like that for years imo

[daring kindle]

I’m getting my ass beat up by a bear

[next arrow]

That's true but they were consistent before, idk maybe I'm still just tripping, my anger issues being too front of my mind again

[wary mason]

Felt 😭

[daring kindle]

Alright let’s see if my bears are here

[indigo fractal]

im confused, let me get this right, respawns happen every 30+ minutes BUT before main menuing would make it so they wouldnt respawn and if you didnt do it, they wouldnt respawn.

[crude spindle]

YO

[wary mason]

I get mild anxiety thinking about loading this game up

[crude spindle]

YO YO YO

[wary mason]

It actually stresses me

[crude spindle]

they’re looking at great ones

[wary mason]

In what sense

[crude spindle]

Watch

[next arrow]

Explain mate don't just say that

[wary mason]

Do I have to;-;

[next arrow]

I don't wanna

[crude spindle]

He’s not done talking yet

[undone plover]

I’d like to see that

[indigo fractal]

also if its claimed that its an exploit, why wasnt it changed earlier and also why its now claimed that it doesnt have an affect? respectfully, if it wasnt changing anything with respawns why would it be considered an exploit?

[crude spindle]

They want great one feedback

QA has been discussing

[spring cedar]

They would respawn not on a time but something else from what I understood jaxy in stream. Main menu was basically a placebo of sorts as he stated respawns would have already occurred by time you went to menu

[crude spindle]

Great ones shifted from original vision

[wary mason]

Give us feedback tell us in the discord, proceeds to ignore us for months

[wary mason]

I would too but not in this game

[spring cedar]

Think the tigers was the exploit. Main menu for tigers

[wary mason]

If I want aging system I go to woth

A semi realistic game

[undone plover]

It is what it is man but respect the man I liked a lot what he’s done with the game

[indigo fractal]

interesting, the only thing is that pre-update if i didn't main menu, my respawns wouldnt show up even if i reset the time several times

[still summit]

If they already did occur, they would instantly place them at their respective zones. In my red deer grind I could go through 5 lakes, shoot males, exit menu and have respawns at the lake instantly. This has def changed after last patch

[next arrow]

The hell is that supposed to mean????

[frozen pike]

Okay, so the main menu was a bug which is understandable. But will we get a replacement for it? Because right now I am getting no respawns for about 25-30 mins

[wary mason]

That's "intended"

[undone plover]

I’d like to see a remodel on the whitetail deer and the GO

[wary mason]

Well tou ain't getting it cause they don't listen to us

[daring kindle]

Guys respawns are working

Hate to tell ya

[undone plover]

Then who do they listen too?

[next arrow]

Ykw I'm gonna take a nap so I don't go off on someone without meaning to, someone please DM me a summary after stream is over

Id appreciate ut

[undone plover]

Yep

[wary mason]

Me trying to control my bipolar

Unmedicated

[undone plover]

Lol

[gritty tendon]

mine are because i stopped the update from happening lol

[daring kindle]

I tried that

[wary mason]

Chad ngl

[daring kindle]

It deleted my game

[next arrow]

Same, can't afford the medicine but I am diagnosed

[daring kindle]

Respawns are working though

[undone plover]

Oh dam I left my ps4 on rest mode last night 💀

[wary mason]

I ain't 😭

Have a good nap tho

[next arrow]

Thank you

[frozen pike]

But he just said it was only intended for tigers?

[indigo fractal]

im gonna check on my red deer now, i'll update

[frozen pike]

He wasn’t making much sense

[wary mason]

Well what everyone's saying here is it's every animal that's currently effected by it

[daring kindle]

It is only affecting tigers

[frozen pike]

It’s not tho

He said it was

But nothing coming back for me at all

[daring kindle]

All my respawns are working

Idk why yall are struggling

[wary mason]

Cause the game is buggy as hell, per usual

[still summit]

What animals are you hunting?

[daring kindle]

Bear

[frozen pike]

Well they are dif

[still summit]

Bear are the least affected

[zealous ferry]

They ate not broken, the thing is that we only have natural spawns. Main menuing doesn’t force respawns anymore now you depend on spawns working correctly, most times they don’t

[spring cedar]

Exactly, my nilgai are respawning the same as before. Without waiting for respawns

[daring kindle]

Yall need to stop arguing it though

[still summit]

We can argue all we want

[daring kindle]

It’s not gonna get anywhere

They want us to be respectful

So be respectful

[still summit]

So just letting them ruin my playstyle

[frozen pike]

Yeah everyone being mad disrespectful

[solar wing]

And you have to be on said map and wait before they will respawn 👎

[still summit]

Then gaslight me into believing they did not change it

is respectful?

I have eyes

[frozen pike]

It’s childish to be rude to another human being like that

[still summit]

I can see that most antlered species do NOT respawn the same way as before the patch

[daring kindle]

It’s “grinder” play style not yours. And you just have to work around it rn while it’s figured out

[daring kindle]

They didn’t

So stop

[frozen pike]

If bear grind is working just grind them

[still summit]

did you watch jaxy's stream?

[frozen pike]

Until more is revealed

[daring kindle]

I’ve been watching

[still summit]

Then either you are just coping out of your mind

Or lying to yourself

I can see clearly

[daring kindle]

Brother

They aren’t broken

[blissful willow]

They admitted to the change, they said that respawn times have not changed for animals and they haven't, it's just the fact that you can't leave to speed up their respawns anymore

[daring kindle]

Maybe you’re just being dumb

[still summit]

That some animals take 20 minutes to respawn

[daring kindle]

But they aren’t

[daring kindle]

What animal?

Please tell

[still summit]

Fallow, tahr

[daring kindle]

Do I have to go shoot fallow to prove they’re fine?

Cause I will

[still summit]

Yes

[solar wing]

Please do

[daring kindle]

I’m going to do a run then

[still summit]

Go Te

And watch them not respawn

For 20 min

I've seen it in my own game

I've seen it on Zaggi's stream

No way you can gaslight me

[zealous ferry]

Well I closed the stream, I’m done with this

[indigo fractal]

ayyyy i got a dime to stack now finally, my first dime after 78 kills

[daring kindle]

W

[indigo fractal]

now i gotta hope that my red deer respawn normally

[daring kindle]

They will

[still summit]

Ping me when you've shot your fallow and gotten your respawns

[daring kindle]

I’m on my last 3 zones

I’ve killed 14 so far

[frozen pike]

If bear are fine currently

I will grind them

For now

[daring kindle]

Exactly

Just grind what you can

If they’re “broken”

[unkempt tapir]

This is not great ones

[indigo fractal]

yeah they arent respawning normally

[willow otter]

Bear is respawning fine for me the change to respawns was just for tigers for all the people that are mad just move your tents back and get over it I’ll be posting my bear GO that I get from grinding here in a bit so be ready for that. Change is inevitable in life so just get over it and adapt to it and quit crying 😢

[daring kindle]

Mine are working

🤧

[daring kindle]

Bro thinks he’s gonna get one

[willow dirge]

This is bs, cant believe comments are being deleted in stream, this is sad

[daring kindle]

I’ll get one first

[daring kindle]

Yall need to keep it respectful

That’s why

[crude spindle]

I feel so much better now holy moly man

oh my god I misread the patchnotes 🤦‍♂️

I cooked myself

[willow otter]

I cant let you beat me bro @daring kindle

[undone plover]

Where the patch notes at

[wary mason]

Summery please

[daring kindle]

@spring cedar you ass

Change my name back

I’m not upset

I’m defending it😭

[spring cedar]

It’s been that way for 2 hours

[rich gazelle]

Here’s some 😅

[crude spindle]

pinged in news

[rich gazelle]

The important ones at least

[crude spindle]

I thought the going to menu and respawn changes were separate

but theyre the same

[daring kindle]

Fix me name

Idc

[spring cedar]

Sowwy, upsetti spaghetti

[crude spindle]

I literally didnt know you were maple until just now

[daring kindle]

Fine

Leave it

I’ll change my pfp

I got this

[crude spindle]

I cant keep track of peoples name changes and pfps man

[daring kindle]

Ya I been undercover

BMAN

I SAID LEAVE IT

MAKE

UP

YOUR

MIND

[undone plover]

At least they fixed the emerald coast multiplayer problem

[tiny kestrel]

Does this qualify as admin abuse?

[spring cedar]

No, he said change it, then said leave it

[indigo fractal]

since you have to wait around 30 minutes irl for respawns, does that timer tick while youre on different maps or offline?

[willow otter]

If you was playing when tracks where disappearing and GO’S were broken and the tents were the same as they are now this should be nothing to you

[daring kindle]

Real

[spring cedar]

Or when downed animals despawned when leaving render

[daring kindle]

I remember that

Lost a diamond 🙏🏻

RIP

[wary mason]

Can someone please summerise

Cheers

[daring kindle]

OK SO

we talk

We listen

We good now

Boom