🦌︴great-ones

[normal rose]

and that is?

[stray acorn]

Nontyp birch

[acoustic cedar]

Oh my godddddd

Out here grinding for that big non typical lad myself

Big congratulations @stray acorn

[stray acorn]

Ty

[acoustic cedar]

Any photos of the lad?

[stray acorn]

I have him stacked rn I could take some pics tho

[acoustic cedar]

I’d love to see any photos- inspiration to keep going with these meese lol

9 go moose down, zero with my fave rack lol

Im praying RNG will bless me with one of those wild ones eventually lol

[stray acorn]

Gonnq go find it's feeding zone here soon

[acoustic cedar]

Oooo 👀

[stray acorn]

Yeah they feed at sunset so

[acoustic cedar]

Indeed they do!

[unkempt parcel]

You spawned MY favorite

[fast ridge]

pain and suffering 😭

[unkempt parcel]

🏃‍♂️

[stray acorn]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1120552069762383934/1151674369840533524/IMG_20230913_182204253.jpg

It shared as a link wtf

[stray acorn]

.

[acoustic cedar]

That’s sooo beautiful

I neeeeeeeed

[stray acorn]

Ty

[acoustic cedar]

OH JY FYICIU

BIG NOB TYPUCAL TWO TONE

HOLYTCIUCH

GOFGONII

IT FIBALLY HAPPENED HOLY CRAP

UFINYHIJ

AND IT IS INE IF MY FAVR FURS

REEEEEEEEEEE

There’s NO WAY

[stray acorn]

Speak of the devil

Where at?

[acoustic cedar]

The mamontovaya tundra lake

Holy crap

I’m in a state

[stray acorn]

Bro same lake as mine wtf 💀💀

[acoustic cedar]

Can you tell I’m shaking

[stray acorn]

A lil

[acoustic cedar]

Freaking 14+ thousand of kills

9 other meese

And finally

It’s over

[iron valve]

u got ur dream combo?

[acoustic cedar]

The big non typ rack, two tone. One of my top furs and my needed rack

I now have EVERYTHING GO for moose!

[analog arch]

Bro wtaf

[iron valve]

congratd

[analog arch]

Mel actually cracked

[acoustic cedar]

I’m shaking so goddamn hard

[pale oracle]

Bruh how many kills this time xD

Ive been so wrapped up in the angler that ive barely played cotw

[plain raptor]

I’m personally waiting for more content

I know I’ll download it eventually

[crude spindle]

@acoustic cedar my dream combo 😭

[stray acorn]

Bros I just spawned a lvl 2 mela💀

[low shoal]

Bro damn another nice job

the grind never ends

[acoustic cedar]

100-200

Not that many tbh

I had a feeling something might happen cuz everything yesterday was smol

So I was like hmmmm

Cuz this happened before one of my last ones

[acoustic cedar]

It does for moose! This is the end!!

[low shoal]

Lol

[acoustic cedar]

It’s so beautiful 😭🖤

[acoustic cedar]

Thank you so much!!

Now it’ll be a hardcore focus on whitetail to get a droptine

[low shoal]

Np u earned it with the time and effort u put into this game

[iron valve]

now get a fabled pie wt

[acoustic cedar]

Lmfao imagine

[acoustic cedar]

Just a few hours of my life 🙈

[low shoal]

idk even know what I'm doing I'm trying but I only put in like an hour a day or every other day

[iron valve]

"a few"

[low shoal]

hundred

[iron valve]

thousand

[pale oracle]

Sheeeshhh thats like how my fallow were but even better

[low shoal]

Now that's a bit much

[acoustic cedar]

I have over 5k hours on pc and 1k ish on Xbox lol

[acoustic cedar]

Yeah I have my moose down to a T. Worked super hard with them over these thousands of kills after this one rack!

[low shoal]

Damn I only have over a thousand on one game and I've been playing for 2 years

[acoustic cedar]

I have every moose fur and rack from this insane grind

Worth

[pale oracle]

Yea thats insane, i wish i had the patience to manage down all the solos but i just cant be bothered to chase 5-10 large 3s lol

[wooden crypt]

Mel another one?! Lets gooo

[acoustic cedar]

I got my dream boi finally!!!!

[wooden crypt]

And now you have all the furs and racks!

[wooden crypt]

Awesome!

[acoustic cedar]

I may never shoot another moose lmfao

[acoustic cedar]

I knowww it’s a massive achievement for me. I cried when I saw him lmao

[wooden crypt]

Haha

[acoustic cedar]

I can’t believe it’s over

Goddamn

So worth it

[wooden crypt]

Same bro, Can’t get off of it lol

[pale oracle]

Yea its insanely addicting

[wooden crypt]

Fr lol

[pale oracle]

I think ive killed like 400 fallow/moose/bear the last 2 weeks lol

Major downtick in kills

Cuz feesh lol

[wooden crypt]

Good ol feeesh lol

[crude spindle]

Update drought setting in it’s understandable

[iron valve]

fs

[wooden crypt]

It’s so addicting that I hooked a fish and threw my phone onto the floor to catch it lol

[acoustic cedar]

Guys who wants sneak peekssss

Cuz this lad just put on a SHOW

God I love this moose

He’s so freaking incredible

Wow

[wooden crypt]

Yesssss

[acoustic cedar]

Look at my boiiiii

[wooden crypt]

Stunning!!!!!

[acoustic cedar]

My favourite great one ever

God I’m so freaking happy

[stray acorn]

Bro my birch feeds right next to skull mountain

[plain raptor]

You made hims hair bristle

[acoustic cedar]

Mines up there somewhere but it’s no good for photography, so I’m just drink zone filming this guy

[acoustic cedar]

Hims my precious boi 😭🖤

I literally screeched

I think I woke people up

lol

[stray acorn]

It was 11:30 I wouldve screamed if I wasn't gonna wake everyone up lmao

[plain raptor]

Mel did you see what I said earlier

[acoustic cedar]

Just gonna take him with a safe 300 shot…I’m too scared to try anything even slightly tricky

[acoustic cedar]

No 👀👀👀

Oh damn 👀🙈

Hey I saw that

[plain raptor]

😏

[acoustic cedar]

Sneaky sneaky!

I shot him and just hyperventilated the entire way to pick him up

My god

My little heart is beating so fast

[normal rose]

i want a double paddle bitch so bad

birch**

[fast ridge]

that's a 4????

bleh, 232

[short flare]

Thats a nice moose😥

[ornate shore]

That's very beautiful

Honestly I really wanna great one but I don't wanna grind so ima jus keep shooting and than hopefully I get one randomly spawn

[signal sun]

What the frick 😂

I am multi hopping on srp

and a dude gets mad at me for shooting to much near him and litteraly all I did was shoot 2 times at a bear

[north nova]

TOO MUCH SHOOSTING

[gritty tendon]

petition for a raccoon GO

[acoustic cedar]

He would be such a thicc lad

[gritty tendon]

i’d grind for one tbh

i don’t think it’d be enjoyable because they sort of behave like bears but i’d still grind them

[acoustic cedar]

My hope now i think for the next one is boar

Idk why

I just think they could be cool

[signal sun]

Oops, didnt mention the other part, after he got mad, he kicked me from the server 🤦‍♂️

[gritty tendon]

that's what i'm hoping for as well if they stick with base maps

i think it also has the best chance as it was already considered once

[azure valve]

Ok here me out, the dark horse great one pick, ROE DEER! They need a remodel almost as bad as blacktail and Roosevelt elk and honestly I just kinda like them lol.

[acoustic cedar]

oh my god I’ve always said I wanted a great one roe too!

That would be the dream!!!!

I just don’t see them being next, but goddamit I’d be very happy to be wrong

So many cool things that they could do with roe great ones

[pliant oak]

they could be cool but there are many more popular choices

i wouldnt mind them

[acoustic cedar]

They could be freaking awesome genuinely but yeah I just don’t reckon they’ll be next sadly

Idk I have a feeling about boar or fox being next

[signal sun]

I want pheasant great one 😂

I can't imagine wondering how hard thst would be to grind one 😭

[gritty tendon]

yeah fox or boar are my guess

i say boar though cause more possibilities

[pliant oak]

number 14 of 2nd grind

est was 266 - 300 +

scored 267 lol

[gritty tendon]

i'm just wondering when we're gonna get news on the next dlc

should be this month right?

[acoustic cedar]

Me too

[acoustic cedar]

I hope so

[gritty tendon]

it's every 6 months isn't it?

today would be 6 months on the dot

[acoustic cedar]

Big update every 6 months with a smaller update in between normally

[gritty tendon]

yeah it's 6 months since the last smaller update/weapon pack

it's about 6 months for each

it's just that one comes in the middle of the big updates each time but both updates are about 6 months each

[acoustic cedar]

Yeah exactly you right

[gritty tendon]

i'm just ready for whatever it is

[acoustic cedar]

Same

[gritty tendon]

maybe some new caliber rifles or something

but ideally a new dog or horse

[acoustic cedar]

Yessss

[pliant oak]

horses mules donkies would be cool

small calibre rifles

feeders

[daring kindle]

Nahhh

What we really need is

Drum roll pls

[pliant oak]

submarines

i knew it

🤣

[daring kindle]

Thank you for answering because I had nothing 😭

We need a GO unicorn

[gritty tendon]

i wouldn't even mind if they just did some remodels for some animals

[pliant oak]

i once killed one

🤣

[daring kindle]

That took me a second to realize what it was lmao

[celest briar]

I might be slow but what is it

[ivory pond]

#5

[quaint vessel]

How many did it take you to get him

congrats as well

unless u meant u got him in 14 kills

[signal sun]

He means that's his 24th dime of his 2nd grind...

[quaint vessel]

Bro I ain’t gonna lie

I didn’t even look at it that close

I just read the chat name and thought it was a go 💀

[signal sun]

😂 all good

[fast ridge]

I think we're going to hear something by the end of this month, but the DLC itself won't be until next month.

according to Tuesday's stream

[gritty tendon]

bummer

[ornate shore]

So not December??

[fast ridge]

okay so.

There are two types of DLCs for COTW.

There's the twice-a-year map DLC, which release in June and December (unless delayed)

and then there's the non-map DLC, which also follows twice a year, between the maps.

Next up is the non-map DLC.

[ornate shore]

Oh so the one coming up

So it might be more guns and shi

[fast ridge]

The only thing confirmed about it is "not a lodge"

so it could be another weapon pack (I will actually riot if we get another 4-8 rifle)

but it could also be a new dog

we won't know until it's actually announced.

[rigid forge]

https://tenor.com/view/viva-la-revolution-gif-11760395

[north nova]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-mob-riot-torches-pitchforks-gif-5859895

[wooden junco]

EW suddenly changes it to 4-9 to avoid a riot

[sly rivet]

1-9 gun when

[pliant oak]

my first great one fallow took 17 diamonds

on 2nd grind now with 14 diamonds

currently getting one or two diamonds spawn per run

[wooden junco]

So I got 1 more diamond to go then lol.

[pliant oak]

wish you luck could be any amount

[wooden junco]

Yeah lol I just had a chuckle as I am at 16 for about 1100 and saw yours at 17

I dont focus much on it now as get sidetracked so just tend to do a couple drink time runs when in the mood then log off every now and then.

I think doing it on Australia map was a mistake on my part too lol. Quicker and easier if I stripped down my red setup on TA but it is what it is lol

[pliant oak]

go grinding kinda took a back seat for me recently just casual grind for a 1 hr here or there inbetween other things

my hm is good so even in short time i can still bag diamonds in that time

will swap back to moose after next fallow go

get one moose then maybe bear...maybe!

[wooden junco]

Nice am a bit same less grind now. I miss moose too so may go for a 2nd one soon as fallow is done. Funny I hated Med starting out as it hurt my eyes being nocturnal and it being bright white but now adapted I miss it lol

[pliant oak]

2 level 5s on that run

not bad

[signal sun]

My hm is finnaly starting to like, pop off ngl

in 15 kills I had 4 level 5's spawn

only 1 was a dime tho, 3 trolls but still 😂

[pliant oak]

once you get half you pop low levels it will

fallows its about 40 males then diamonds should spawn about every 10 to 20 kills

the smaller you get your shooting pool the faster they spawn

my reds shooter pool i dont think it can go smaller as its been same for months now

23 shooters

but with that i can spawn a diamond every few kills

fallow currently got about 35 shooters

but few diamonds level 5s respawn every run now

[north nova]

ron has this all down to an art

if anyone could make a diamond mine, its him

[pliant oak]

its took time 1 year to disect

but now its paid off trying all the different combos

problem is i dont have a lot of spare time to grind

if i could grind 12 hrs a day like some id have 1000 great ones lol

but i dont begrude those that do fair play and they put in the effort

[ornate shore]

I'm currently grinding for a moose and I'm usually on for 1-2hr a day

[pliant oak]

im going after moose again after next fallow go

10 diams in on rev

hm is decent on there too

so one maybe not far aware there

good look on your moose grind

[ornate shore]

Thank you u too

[hollow yacht]

Firqt trophies of the 4th great one fallow grind

*First

[normal rose]

No diamond dark spotteds

Those are my fave

[wicked rose]

I thinking of starting a Great one fallow grind in Te. Can someone reply with a need zone map pls

[north nova]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1142967319790878772/1143000487529025577/fallow_deer_map_te_awaroa.png

[shrewd lance]

what are the hotspots for magpie goose?

[shrewd lance]

thank u so much

[pliant oak]

i have a video guide on them too with some tricks to stop salt water crocs scaring them

[shrewd lance]

OK

[stark nimbus]

I really wish they'd expand the magpie goose territory to the entire ruby coast area

So annoying to hunt with how easily they get spooked rn

Plus I swear they have something wrong with their hitbox. I can snipe other birds from the air with relative ease, but magpies? Can't hit them to save my life

[ornate shore]

They should make it where predators hunt othet animals ik they chase but like more animamations like that would br cool also I'm sick of watching predators and prey literally sitting next to each other

[pliant oak]

its literally this simple. take away spooking from magpie geese and salt water crocs

easiest solution then hunt as normal

[stark nimbus]

^aye that'll do it

[visual glen]

310 kills and 6 dimes and 6 trolls into fallow grind number 2.
Grind 1 took 3533 kills and 95 dimes

[pliant oak]

oooft first one took a long time

guess it kinda evened out

congrats

[wary mason]

Bin a while since I've been in here

how's everyone's grind progress?

[tame lark]

Nearly 5.1k without a GO

[craggy elm]

Fallow?

[wary mason]

Ope

[pliant oak]

are you collecting kills

[tame lark]

Red deer

[tame lark]

Yes

[wooden junco]

God I hope thats not how my fallow goes. I think if I reach 3k will say thats enough

[tame lark]

It’s been a struggle to stay motivated to grind

[drowsy oak]

4,9k kills after i have this beauty, i like the spotted fur althought there are some that i like even more

[untold knot]

Beautiful, I’m almost 3.3k into mine

[glad sail]

6k bears for me, zero g1

[celest briar]

What is the best strategy for a GO moose grind Medved

[ornate shore]

I'm currently doing one rn 😭

[gritty tendon]

find a rotation that works well that allows you to get as many kills per hour as you can

if you want to use hm then use it if not don’t worry about it

[crude spindle]

Don’t shoot 2’s

[weak sinew]

That's a really awesome screenshot!!

[drowsy oak]

Good luck with your grind 🤞💪

[drowsy oak]

Thankya

It took a few tries to actually get close tho 😂

[pliant oak]

diamond number 15 of the 2nd grind.

heavy boy too

[grave wedge]

Piebald #6 at 1415 kills

[untold knot]

Thx 🙂

[worthy flint]

Hey guys! I have a couple of questions. I´m quite new to the game. I've shot 1916 animals so far. 1 diamond (and about 6-7 more but shot with non vitals so I lost the diamond medal), 4 pibalds and two albinos.

What would be your best tips to increase the amounts of spotted diamonds and even a great one or two? I've read about what you call "grinds" and I've seen the hunting tent method for swift spawning at hot locations etc. Are the animals still there if I log out of the game or is the game reset every time? I've spent quite a lot of hours at certain lakes and I've shot a bunch of "Mythical" animals etc. And I always use the right caliber etc. Please be gentle with me since I'm a n00b here 😄

[pliant oak]

herd managemnt.

so levels 1-3 species you shoot only 2 and 3s

levels 1-5 only shoot 3 - 5s

levels 1 - 9 only 5 - 9s

[worthy flint]

Thanks mate!!

[crude spindle]

Wdym by you spend hours at certain lakes

[dense stirrup]

I actually got away with keeping my lvl 5's during my grind aside from the lvl 5's at my main shooting lakes

I think it all depends on the map you are grinding on possibly? I did my grind on Hirschfelden so I pretty much over loaded my map with lvl 5's because of the sheer amount of need zones on that map I think I was able to get away with this method 😅

[nova crescent]

I want a spotted so bad 😭, beautiful pic, and congrats!

[untold knot]

I want any so bad 🙂

[pliant oak]

it harms respawns stacking 5s

ive proved this by stacking 30 diamonds twice back to back

at start of a grind it helps get lower levels

but once you get into your grind its bad for respawns

so dont stack 5s

[neat plinth]

Great one at level 30, didn't even start my grind :)

[crude spindle]

Got a codex pic?

[neat plinth]

Yeah

Codex pic was taken in multiplayer but I shot the GO in single player

[crude spindle]

Gotcha

Nice

Congratulations

[neat plinth]

Thanks

I'm extremely lucky

[golden viper]

typical rackkk

with my fav gun too

typical is also my fav rack

[pliant oak]

that is the best whitetail great one rack tbh

[acoustic cedar]

That is so hawt

Plz god let that or the droptine (🙏🖤) show up on my grind

Congratulations @golden viper

[signal sun]

um how did bro just message in there

doesnt it get auto deleted?

[ornate shore]

Yes

I tried typing I was like how tf

[signal sun]

@north nova ^^^

theres a mesasge in trophy gallery

somehow

idk if u want to delete that or not

i mean im sure u do

[fast ridge]

Took care of it.

[signal sun]

Tyty

[golden viper]

Is it I hope it shows up!

[visual glen]

4 k kills into fallow grind, 1 GO after 3.4 k and 106 dimes, 41 trolls and 11 Rares

[fast ridge]

HELLO

oh lol he walked right into me while I was trying to get above that hill

[visual glen]

Anybody got a drink zone map for red deer on cuatro ? I wanna get a big rack GO and a SR. Atm i got 3 small racks which scored between 257 and 261

[ornate shore]

Why do people ask for maps for drink zones isn't everyone different one thr map??

[fast ridge]

while the zones themselves vary, the general area to find them is the same.

[ornate shore]

Oh so sometimes the areas are the same as others ?

[fast ridge]

with the Cuatro map there for example, all the highlighted areas will always have a chance to have red deer at them.

at the same time, it's not guaranteed that any will be there.

[acoustic cedar]

The general areas are always the same, the exact pinpoint location of individual zones will vary

[pliant oak]

a good eg is me and pro xck compared map locations when emerald coast came out

for most species

and we both had locations where there was animals at different locations

so good for general locations but you need to check your own map

[fast ridge]

he trolled 💀

oh heck you too game

[signal sun]

He looked very trolly 😂

[fast ridge]

😑

[unkempt parcel]

Ah, being a new player again and seeing a Legendary stag ...

[fast ridge]

would've been nicer if he didn't.

y'know

have the 🦀 rack

[unkempt parcel]

Yea ... my first trurack Legendary was that rack ... I didn't know it was a guaranteed troll, was excited lol

[fast ridge]

okay, game forgiven. for the moment

[unkempt parcel]

Don't stress out much, just enjoy the nature, wildlife, the game and play so that no two hunts are ever the same

[signal sun]

Level 4 dime bighorn posted 😳

dont see those every day

[signal sun]

If I delete a zone it can spawn anywhere right?

Or is it just nearby where it was deleted?

[sick shard]

In my experience ones with multiple animals spawn nearby, but single male zones will jump. I’ve had single zones repeat the same place a dozen times then jump the map

[golden viper]

I wish there was a wider rack for the typical rack.

But idk if they get any wider than that

[idle ocean]

daym

[fast ridge]

I hit the tent limit on EC 🥲

[signal sun]

Ok! Thanks!

[visual glen]

How many red deer drinkzones do u guys have on cuatro ?

[fast ridge]

Hello 👀

[plucky grove]

@pliant oak your the guy who grinds red deer right?

[acoustic cedar]

Don’t worry about number of zones, just check all the areas where red deer can drink and see what you can find. Don’t worry about counting! 😊

[pliant oak]

yup

[plucky grove]

@pliant oak do you kill 5s for red deers or leave em,this is embarrassing for me considering I got 2 sr ones just can't remember what I did

[pliant oak]

yes kill 5s

super rares have nothing to do with levels just lucky spawns

[acoustic cedar]

EEEEE

he’s SO weird looking

Like

Super squished

[signal sun]

Congrats!!!

but my gosh

[acoustic cedar]

Thank you so much!!

[signal sun]

So many 😭

[acoustic cedar]

I’m determined to get that blooming droptine buck! But he refuses to exist!

Legit once I get that rack I’m done

[signal sun]

I litteraly have 3 great ones 😭 you get like 3 a dayis what it seems like 😂

[signal sun]

Good luck!!!!

[acoustic cedar]

Thank you so much! I hope I’ll see it one day! But I’m stoked about this buck, he’s the most unique big rack I’ve seen on these grinds, very weird

[signal sun]

Wait thats a big rack!???

[acoustic cedar]

I know right lmao

[signal sun]

based of the estimate I didnt think it was a big rack

[acoustic cedar]

Exactly

[signal sun]

seemed way to low lol

[acoustic cedar]

He’s so squashed up

[signal sun]

wow he must be very unique

[acoustic cedar]

I was like DAFUQ is that- oh!

[signal sun]

😂

[acoustic cedar]

Then my heart did the kick lol

He’s so cool

Gonna get some pics of him in a mo

Waiting on him to come in from his feed zone

[signal sun]

https://tenor.com/view/you-are-not-allowed-to-have-a-heart-attack-be-safe-stay-healthy-dont-die-jason-biggs-gif-14186159

[signal sun]

cant wait for the vid

[acoustic cedar]

Lmaooo

I’ll try not to die 😂🙏

[acoustic cedar]

Thank you so much!! I’ll be excited to share it!!

[low shoal]

Bruh

Another

Congrats

I'ma go back to studying Spanish with a friend

[acoustic cedar]

He scored 604

Wtf

That’s the smallest big rack lmfao

Tip to tip spread is 5.75 lmaooo

I wonder what the lowest scoring one ever recorded is

[gritty tendon]

wow

even lower scoring than mine

i have a 606

[acoustic cedar]

I’ll post a sneak peek here in a mo

[gritty tendon]

really close tip to tip spread on it

[gritty tendon]

wow

looks sick

[acoustic cedar]

He really does

I wanna know the smallest big rack score possible now 😂

[gritty tendon]

well until now i haven't seen a smaller big rack than mine

so yours might just be it?

[acoustic cedar]

Oh god that would be wild

[gritty tendon]

time will tell

[acoustic cedar]

For sure

I’ve asked in partners, maybe crow or ibuy will know if there’s been a smaller one

[gritty tendon]

they might

[acoustic cedar]

I’m so stoked

What a cool buck to get

This is why I keep going for that droptine, cuz the journey is just as cool

[gritty tendon]

def a trophy to remember

[wooden crypt]

Congrats Mel!!

[acoustic cedar]

Thank you so much!!

[unkempt parcel]

Crow would love this

[fast ridge]

Porcupine rack!

[acoustic cedar]

Literally is lol

[glad sail]

best big rack i ever seen

here’s my most unique wt

[acoustic cedar]

Oh he’s so cool!!!

[gritty tendon]

looks like a pretzel

[glad sail]

that big rack is absolutely crazy, would rather that than the typical rack

[fast ridge]

were my jaw not attached, it would've hit the desk.

Part 1 of my dream multimount as been obtained

[wooden junco]

big boy too

[gritty tendon]

so thought that was a fabled silver at first glance

[fast ridge]

nope, just a guaranteed-diamond white

just need a chocolate diamond, and a mocha GO

...I have an ugly feeling the mocha GO is going to be the one that's going to take Forever

[wooden junco]

Whats your count so far

[daring kernel]

@fast ridge I take it you're not doing hm?

[fast ridge]

Not really. HM desensitized me entirely to whitetail diamonds and I don't want that happening to any other animal.

[gritty tendon]

i wanted a white dime, choc dime, and a sr piebald in a multi mount

that didn’t happen because i never got a sr but i got a huddle with 3 GOs so oh well

[fast ridge]

Noice

I briefly had a multimount with my two WT GOs, but it. Did not look right. so now it's the bigger GO with my SR

[balmy glacier]

congratz, so what is part 2

[fast ridge]

.

[balmy glacier]

alr im blind then

bcuz i read the whole convo but my eyes didnt grasp that part

[fast ridge]

dw, I know the feeling

[north nova]

Grats! Good find!!

[pliant oak]

diamond number 16 of 2nd grind big boy too

[pliant oak]

number 17

[somber turret]

Dude be wide

[ornate shore]

That's what she said
Sorry 😭😭

[somber turret]

🤔

[ornate shore]

😇

[pale oracle]

Did you ever see this guy? This is probably my most unique whitetail G1

[dark tendon]

ron always delivers the goods

[acoustic cedar]

Very weird buck!

[pale oracle]

Honestly thats the best part about the great one whitetail. No other great one gets as much influence from the random stuff truracs can do

[acoustic cedar]

Exactly

[normal rose]

holy moly he wonky

[quaint vessel]

Bro a max level mele troll this is actually the most heartbreaking thing I’ve ever had playing this game

Would’ve been my first ever super rare to

😢

[fast ridge]

oof, super-troll

at least he's an impressive gold and absolutely worthy of the Hall Of Shame

[quaint vessel]

actually makes me wanna quit the fallow grind bruh after 2.5k kills no great one and then my first ever potential super rare is a troll

[fast ridge]

I hate to say this but diamond minimum is 249. he was guaranteed troll.

[quaint vessel]

oh yeah i knew

meant to say my first max level

[fast ridge]

but yeah I wouldn't blame you for taking a break after that

[quaint vessel]

that was a rare

[sick cypress]

It makes the end goal feel sweeter though

when u finally get it

[deep terrace]

So I wanna start my moose grind which map is best for it? I find a lot of diamonds on Yukon and rev, so would one of them be good to do a moose grind on ? Also heard New England is decent for moose

[ornate shore]

Medved

I barely started I think I have grindes for like 3-4days so far as ND already got diamonds and diamond potentials

[north nova]

Lots of folks pick Medved, Revontuli or NEM for moose

[daring kindle]

Medved is by far the best map

[pliant oak]

that is a weird one cool though.

[pliant oak]

haha trying my best. im basically same number now diamond wise and nearly trolls as last fallow go

so hopefully shows up soon

then maybe back to moose

[low shoal]

I wanna get a Rack like that irl

[deep terrace]

I’ll be setting up tonight on medved. Lucky it’s fresh since I never hunt on that map maybe the RNG gods will bless me with a natural spawn G1😂😂😂

[north nova]

fingers big crossed for you

[solar wing]

Anyone got a good setup for medved moose grind?

[deep terrace]

My Yukon has produced 6 nice diamond moose so I might set up on there as well just if I get bored of medved

[simple kestrel]

Hello all

I’m back from a very long absence

[pliant oak]

my moose map for medved but personally think revontuli coast is better

yellow areas are where i mainly try to focus on

[ornate shore]

What abt that big lake on the right side on the map is it good spawns for u?

[pliant oak]

yeah

i personally kill more on revontuli coast though easier in less time with better visibility

will be going back there soon after next fallow go

[ornate shore]

My grind is on med and there's no point of restarting now bc I have had so much help and I already got high lvls

[pliant oak]

yeah if you mid grind might as well stay there

[solar wing]

Thanks :)

[deep terrace]

Can u send me a rev lay out for moose imma set one up on rev n medved

Also if anyone would wanna help me tomorrow get my moose grind set up n help me start killing all 4s n 3s n keep count so we can tally the kills for the G1 moose

Imma be running a 60 hour run this weekend all for moose maybe I can get a 300 plus diamond n not get it stolen for the 3rd time

[pliant oak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfAwzKQdxxY

[deep terrace]

Sweet homie thanks @pliant oak

[signal sun]

I had a dream last night, that for some reason I was in a call with scarecrow (I wish but will never happen 😢) and we were hunting this map that I dont even know what it was, some map that aint in the game it was somewhere over in south america or based off that I feel, and it had whitetail, and we were checking zones and I found an initial spawn droptine rack great one

and then I was taunting @acoustic cedar with it 😂

[sly rivet]

nice dream

[signal sun]

tyty 😂

[tawny roost]

bruh my dream was that my i could actually understand my crush when she speaks, Spanish is her first language and her English isn’t the best

yours is so much better

[signal sun]

😂 that sounds pretty good tho, at least you could understand her for like 20mins or however dreams last

[tawny roost]

lmao

[signal sun]

are you trying to learn some spanish?

[tawny roost]

i’m taking french rn, so no

[signal sun]

It would be my dream to be in the same call as scarecrow lol

[tawny roost]

noice

[signal sun]

Ah I see, Ye i used to take french classes but my french teacher would just say everything in french even intructions so we had no clue waht she was saying

like at all

I learned nothing in my 3 years of frnech

*french

[tawny roost]

my french teacher does that but then repeats himself in english

and the past 3 years of french they spoke in mostly english with increasing amounts of french

[tawny roost]

damn

[signal sun]

Yea no, our french teacher litteraly waffled on in french and none of us new a clue waht she was saying 🤣

[tawny roost]

damn

[signal sun]

at least youve learned stuff 😂

[tawny roost]

i mean he makes us guess what he said, and then tells us, but still

[normal rose]

This is droptines right?

[signal sun]

Yes

[deep terrace]

In the Moose grind would heard management be good or should I not even worry about doing heard management

[ornate shore]

It's working well for me so I would suggest it

[pliant oak]

you will get a great one quicker on average with herd management

unless you get lucky with rng shooting randoms

[deep terrace]

So just shoot 3 4 5

[pliant oak]

yeah

collect all kills if you can

you want about half your population of males to be lower levels

then you get higher levels spawn faster

[deep terrace]

Ok sounds good

[acoustic cedar]

Roooood

[signal sun]

😂 well at least you made it in my dream, that gotta count for something? Right??? xD

um @north nova ^^^

in every channel

[acoustic cedar]

Definitely

[signal sun]

Haha, it was also a really weird drop tine as well, he had like tines curling out and then back towards his head and then like making a figure 8 with the other side idk it was weird lol

[acoustic cedar]

That would be so cool lol

[signal sun]

you know u play to much when u dream about a game 😂

[acoustic cedar]

Felt that

[ornate shore]

Yk you eat too much until you dream abt it and start eating the pillow

[vital oyster]

Bros got his nuts hanging from his antlers

[pale oracle]

I 100% do not have a problem i promise

[ornate shore]

😭I wish I had that time

[high heath]

jesus

[pale oracle]

No breaks allowed lol, work only xD

[wooden crypt]

Crow. Do I need to call the doctor? lmaooo

[signal sun]

@ornate shore Is that kangaroo a silver and and yo didn't mess him up or anything?

[rigid forge]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-it-stop-get-some-help-michael-jordan-gif-7964841

[signal sun]

Or am I seriously trippin?

[ornate shore]

I did mess it up but it was a troll anyways

[signal sun]

Oh th multi-player message mist have just been covering the hrvst check thins perfectly lol

Oh nvm I see it now

I'm stupid

Dw, well maybe worry idk

Lol

[fast ridge]

yeah a lot of things on EC are troll-happy.

[untold knot]

I don’t think I can count that high in my fingers

[pale oracle]

In 3 days i have spawned 10 level 9s so far. 2 trolls, 2 diamonds, & 6 stacked so far out of 736 kills xD

EC solo stags are the bane of my existence

i spent like 4 hours chasing nothing but solos today and only killed like 80. The solos move so much that even 16 tents cant cover all them

And they refuse to become 4s lol

[deep terrace]

90 kills in n no diamonds or anything 🫠🫠🫠

But got a decent little set up on medved

[rigid forge]

solution

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-mushroom-cloud-atomic-bomb-bomb-boom-gif-4464831

[fast ridge]

admittedly I'm loosely HM'ing reds, mostly because diamond reds...already don't have much for variation.

what is it, two diamond racks? Three?

[untold knot]

That’s how I feel with my ec solo fallow on the river. I have like 10 or less to get down to small ones but they just won’t!!!

Eventually tho 😓

[pale oracle]

3 but 2 of them are very similar in looks

[pliant oak]

you also get some diamonds that have half and half racks

not very often though

[pliant oak]

sounds like its going to be a long haul then

hm seems to kick in about 50 ish level 4s on your map

with reds

but thats for te awaroa and emerald coast has quite a lot less reds

te awaroa has about 140 ish males vs 100 ish at emerald coast

so herd management there once you get the lower levels could be fast once you got them there

guess its down to how many levels you can kill per hr vs how long to get the lower levels

i think shooting lower stags like 5s epecially will help get them quicker

[deep terrace]

Haven’t seen one lvl 5 moose yet and my respawns aren’t showing up no more. Confused if I did anything wrong I have picked up every kill haven’t shot any 1s 2 s or females I’m 130kills in

[pliant oak]

what map

also make sure you like 2hrs in at least on drink zones

never change time also where you hunting

[deep terrace]

Medved

[pliant oak]

as often if you do that you walk onto whatever lake you hunting and none will be there

yeah medved can be a bit of pig like that some times

also remember to fast travel 1 day at least at end of hunt and either close game restart

or go main menu and then come back in

reason you do this is i think it checks your pop then replaces what you missing

so for eg i just done it on a fallow run

do a run. fast forward one day at end of run. i personally close game. then restart it

then hunt

normally all males will be back within a day

[deep terrace]

Ok sweet thanks homie 🤙🏼

[normal rose]

Three, four if you count wonkies

[pliant oak]

yeah four really with if you count the odd wonkers

back to fallow slaughter

lets see what spawns today

im sorta at the same sorta kills diamonds as last one that spawned so hopefully something good soon

[deep terrace]

I haven’t seen nothing good yet nothing even close to diamond potential so hopefully I get good spawns to today

I still need to find a few more zones I think as well is there a way to push moose closer together

[pliant oak]

as you grind you will find areas with more males

these are the zones you need to look after

focus on

you can move zones about moose animals about but you need to know your zones

[deep terrace]

Could someone who knows medved well help me find my zones😂

[fast ridge]

#🦌︴find-a-game

[stray peak]

How many people have a fabled piebald/albino/melanistic great one whitetail?

right now i think there is one albino and no mela great one whitetails atm

[tame lark]

No legit albinos

2 or 3 legit pies

[ornate shore]

Piebald is like the most common rare so I wouldn't be surprised if alot of people got em

[stray peak]

LC?

[tame lark]

Not legit

[stray peak]

how so?

[tame lark]

It’s been determined as illegitimate

A group of grinder creators got together and looked at all the evidence and determined it illegitimate

[stray peak]

is there a vid i can watch of it?

[tame lark]

It wasn’t a video

[stray peak]

rip

do u know the creators at least?

[tame lark]

Ronmctube was the one who told me

[stray peak]

i have no idea who this person is but ok

[pliant oak]

i asked about it word was it wasnt legit

or was bugged

we know there has been one or two possible legit piebald ones but even one of those was traded and duped

there might be more legit but not all post here

ideally we should have codex for all kills you get

not just twenty also a kill counter would be nice so you can see the whole grind and details

this would help with legitimacy

id like to see some of this in the future as it would weed out the cheaters who just spout numbers and then post gos

its pretty negative to talk about but it is a thing and it devalues the trophys from legit players

who put in the hard work

[tame lark]

There is at least one legit pie that wasn’t posted here (at least I don’t think it was)

[pliant oak]

yeah i have heard of it but as you cant prove it anything could be not legit

which is the sad thing

[tame lark]

Short of being a creator kill it has as much evidence of being legit as can be

[pliant oak]

doesnt matter who it is

there are some steps that could be added

which would help

[tame lark]

Oh yeah I agree, I’m just saying someone who is EW supported should be legit

[pliant oak]

tie files to that one person. that would stop duping.

trading

other things which im not goin to go into

i hate even talking about it tbh as it just seems negative

[tame lark]

I hate its even a thing

I don’t see how people can enjoy playing the game when they do that

[pliant oak]

yeah worst thing is i can see when people do it and instantly know they doing it

imagine

then read through posts of people

knowing they havent got it legit

[tame lark]

I’m in the same boat. I’ve seen dozens of illegitimate trophies they usually jump out to me

[pliant oak]

been fallow grinding today

not been bad but no diamonds weirdly enough

will give it a few hrs tomorrow

[tame lark]

Do you HM?

[pliant oak]

yeah

[tame lark]

How many kills do you average between diamonds? Roughly

[pliant oak]

fallows it depends

selective shooting can be 1 - 10 kills

but at mo just shooting 3- 5

at mo

reds is every few kills

but thats more advanced

had a hr with fallows earlier

but no diamonds

[tame lark]

I was considering doing HM but that’s too many diamonds for me tbh. I want to enjoy diamonds spawning

Right now on my red deer grind a diamond every 50ish kills gives me a slight motivation boost

[desert tiger]

I'm doing HM and maybe its because its my first grind, I'm 450 ish kills in and only have had one diamond and two trolls. I genuinely dunno if I'm doing something wrong ;n;

[tame lark]

Yeah, that’s not normal for HM

[desert tiger]

Ugh. I try to watch youtube tutorials, but they really are quite vague about what groups to shoot, what a "good" zone is, and how to increase kills per hour.

Mostly they just summarize to "put tents and blinds down and kill stuff :D" and like... I know that. I don't know how to grind once I am set up lol

[ornate shore]

Try watching scarecrow tutorials he explains it very good (even tho I still don't understand it)

[desert tiger]

Might go do that now. I'm already burnt out on the grind because nothing has come of it at all :/

[ornate shore]

What are u grinding ??

[tame lark]

When I started out I would set up on zones with multiple 5+ stags. Once I started killing them they would move around or respawn smaller so I would move my tents to where there are more 5+ stags. Just keep doing that until it’s consistent

[ornate shore]

Also what has worked for me is screw any guilds and shoot only male big lvls and watch them get bigger which had worked out for me

[acoustic cedar]

It’s really very simple

[tame lark]

Mel is way more suited to explain this than me lol

[ornate shore]

Makes the both of us 🤣😭

[acoustic cedar]

Just don’t shoot the smaller ones, only shoot the bigger ones and over time you’ll end up with a decent amount of smols which increases the number of big ones

[desert tiger]

Moose. Its hard to find groups with more than two bulls. I've got a few zones completely shot down to LVL 1s/2s and females, but even when I check the rest of the map I'm constantly spammed with LVl 3s. I'm currently killing LVL 3, 4, and 5s. Only had 3 LVL 5s show up.

[acoustic cedar]

You don’t need any complicated stuff

[ornate shore]

I'm hunting moose as my grind as well it's very easy shoot big males and watch them get bigger but Mel will explain better

[acoustic cedar]

Then continue what you’re doing. 3-5s are shooters, 1/2s leave

If there’s only 3 animals in a zone, shoot the biggest bull

[desert tiger]

So is it just bad luck then? Because its reaaaally starting to slow down.

[acoustic cedar]

Because you need to leave 2 minimum per zone to get respawns there

[desert tiger]

OH. Two of either gender, or two males?

[acoustic cedar]

I can send you a recent recording I did on it if you’d like.

[ornate shore]

Idk if it's a good idea Mel can confirm but pick only a few lakes not like the whole map to grind on

[desert tiger]

I'd love that haha, sorry

[acoustic cedar]

Just two animals, male or female doesn’t matter! 😊

[acoustic cedar]

No problem, I’ll shoot you a dm

[desert tiger]

Okay, that's what I've been doing which is good :D

Dunno what to do with solo males though. If theyre big, I shoot them, like everything else, idk if that's the "right" way to do it

[ornate shore]

I shoot the lone males and usually more spawn in that zone

[acoustic cedar]

I do exactly the same. Lvl 1/2 I leave, 3-5 I kill (for animals maxing at 5 like moose)

[fast ridge]

Hello there

[ornate shore]

Diamond ??

Oh wait there's one in the back 😭

[ornate shore]

Oh I looked at the wrong one for a sec XD

Albino gold

[fast ridge]

Silver.

Gold minimum is 182.

[ornate shore]

A 6 is a silver ?? Damn

[fast ridge]

a 6 can make gold, but not often.

7 isn't guaranteed to be gold either.

[ornate shore]

But 8 Is a potential

[fast ridge]

8 is guaranteed gold

[ornate shore]

Oh it only makes it at 9??

[fast ridge]

granted with this, I've only had one instance I remember of a L7 red deer being silver

[fast ridge]

Well. Guaranteed at least gold.

There's been a grand total of one (1) diamond L8 red deer.

[ornate shore]

Fr??

[acoustic cedar]

Afaik there’s been 0 legit ones

Every single one I’ve seen posted was hacked

[fast ridge]

Nope, there was one here a while back

had the codex and everything

[acoustic cedar]

When?

Codex doesn’t necessarily prove it

[ornate shore]

I never understood this whole codex thing 😭 like it shows the kill that's abt it

[acoustic cedar]

I’ve seen hacked stuff where the codex would be fine

Yeah exactly

Codex isn’t really helpful unless there’s like

20 mela great ones

[fast ridge]

The deer: #🦌︴trophies message

The codex: #🦌︴general message

[acoustic cedar]

Hmmm

Interesting

[ornate shore]

I never seen that before

[acoustic cedar]

It wouldn’t surprise too much if they could somehow do it

But it doesn’t make a lot of sense

[ornate shore]

What even are thr chances of that is there like a certain %

[fast ridge]

Nothing that can be known due to Rule J.

[acoustic cedar]

It would have to be a tru rack thing I’d assume

[fast ridge]

aside from "stupid-rare"

[ornate shore]

Rule j??

[acoustic cedar]

So even if it wasn’t rule j I don’t think it could be calculated

[acoustic cedar]

Discussion of exact spawn rate %s etc

[fast ridge]

Spawn rates are only known via hacking game files.

[acoustic cedar]

But like I don’t think it could even be calculated if someone tried

[ornate shore]

Oh is that not allowed

[fast ridge]

Nope it def is not.

[acoustic cedar]

^what lyra said

[ornate shore]

Ooh

[acoustic cedar]

But in theory I don’t think you could know anyway without knowing the min/max of tru racs and then trying to work it out based off that

It would just be stupidly rare

Anything that has tru racks it doesn’t overly surprise me if it can happen because tru racs be wildin

But for reds it must be ridiculously rare if true

Just cuz how many 8s have been shot in search of great ones?

I dread to think actually lol just a few million 😭

[deep terrace]

171 kill n got a diamond let’s keep going also got a Mel female lvl 1 n piebald so two rares 1 diamond n 179 kills in

[deep terrace]

Went to my rev grind for them as well n got a 299 so close to 300

[pliant oak]

tbh most of it is overly complicated

all you need to do is get half your pop to lower levels

thats it.

so 1 - 3 levels you just shoot 2 and 3s

1-5s you just shoot 3s to 5s

[iron sonnet]

ight you already know i gotta ask ron the questions

[pliant oak]

level 9 you just shoot 5 to 9s

its not complicated really

just gotta just keep at it

[iron sonnet]

yall talkin bout red deer?

[pliant oak]

as above covers all

but the main thing is get half your pop as low levels

then higher levels spawn faster

[iron sonnet]

if you wanna do slacker herd management and not get all technical

you can just leave all level 3s and 4s

[pliant oak]

well you leave 4s and below

[iron sonnet]

and then the zones will just shape into spawning stuff above 3s and 4s

so you then wont need to worry about it

[pliant oak]

with reds most of your pop will turn to level 4 males

with hm

[iron sonnet]

yea

[pliant oak]

im about 8000 in on reds

[iron sonnet]

i just did mine by shooting all deer besides 3s and 4s

and 2s

which i had only 1 of

[pliant oak]

shoot all 5s they will mainly go to lower levels

[iron sonnet]

ye

i did start to do that

towards later grind

and also

[pliant oak]

unless higher level 5s which will mainly go up

[iron sonnet]

if it is a good zone

and just happened to spawn 3 or 4

shoot them

anyway that wat i did

got a go in 2.5k

[pliant oak]

with good hm you should get a go in under 1500 kills

on average sometimes lower than 1000 kills

unless unlucky

[iron sonnet]

ye

i just wasnt focusing it

i didnt rlly care

i played for like

1 hour after school

sometimes more

[pliant oak]

id say last 4 go have been about 700 kills each

hoping next one is soon

[desert tiger]

SHOULD be under 1500? I'm at 450 ish right now and not much is happening besides a couple diamonds and a rare

[acoustic cedar]

I wouldn’t say “should”…more like hope. It’s still RNG as to whether one actually spawns

Like in that ballpark

But you might get one way faster or later depending on RNG

But HM grinds in general take a lot less

Also to begin with HM takes a lil while to get going, especially if you do it the more casual way without stacking etc, then it tends to get quicker

[pliant oak]

average for gos is about 1500 - 2000

doesnt mean you will get one within that but overall it seems to be the ball park figure

with herd management done right its often lower

[tame lark]

I should have 2-3 by now if that was the case

[pliant oak]

well its the case of how good people do herd management

from my last 4 gos they been pretty consistant about 700 kills each

[tame lark]

I’m still not convinced HM helps that much if at all

[pliant oak]

so collect all kilss

i think it obviously does

and i dont think its as complicated as people make out

[tame lark]

People have had just as consistent non HM grinds

I wish EW would just give us an answer

[pliant oak]

the problem with that some cheat so you cant go off that

[tame lark]

People who are definitely not cheating

[pliant oak]

no we dont need to know the answer

that would ruin the game

personally think a go is just a elevated diamond

with less chance of spawning

thats all

[tame lark]

I don’t think it’d “ruin” the game

[pliant oak]

it would

you never should know the magic

or how to do it

as it ruins the illusion

Great ones arent hard

[tame lark]

They are for me 😂

[pliant oak]

its mainly just time spent and herd management now. more time you spend grinding

more great ones you will get

not skilled

just time

[iron sonnet]

well

i mean

if you cant hit a shot

then you aint never gunna get a great one

[tame lark]

It helps if you can kill multiple at once

[pliant oak]

bit of play time you only need to do 200m shots with guns that drop easily

but if you grinding anyway

most can do this

so its just time and herd management

its why literally all the people with most gos play a lot and herd manage

its that simple

more you play more gos you get

you can get gos even quicker if you selective shoot in deeper herd management but many dont do it

as they dont understand it

but its actually simple

[tame lark]

When you say selective shooting do you mean levels 5+ (for red deer obviously)?

[pliant oak]

no

in advanced herd management when you obviously got all lower levels

you only shoot very high levels

and only a few

[tame lark]

So after several thousand kills of herd management

[pliant oak]

depends on how well its been done

but with low shooting pool

you only shoot highest scorers

then you will get diamonds spawn even faster

[tame lark]

Which I don’t want. I want diamonds no faster than 50 kills cause I want them to have some value

[pliant oak]

there is no point shooting 5s 6s 7s at this point

as your pool is low numbers

and you just respawning the same levels

but this is in deeper herd management

only a few really actually understand herd management really

many just guess

if its rng why do people get gos in less kills with herd management ?

so concentrate look at your kills especially in deeper grinds

[acoustic cedar]

Bro I got like 18? Maybe more? Great ones in two months ish with herd management, vs 12 in like…3 years

Wait maths is hard

I had 12

Started towards the end of my 12th grind (had 13 because one was a multiplayer kill) now on 32

So whatever the difference is between 12 and technically I guess 31 if we don’t count the multiplayer kill cuz no grind

So 19

In around two months

Herd management 1000000000000000% affects great ones

(Being bad at maths hurts so much)

But there’s still RNG to it, so naturally there’s outliers

But if you plotted the whole communities herd management grinds and average kills on a graph, there will be a very clear trend, with a few outliers cuz bad luck with RNG gods

[untold knot]

Rng gods hate me.

And also i make myself grind things like hirsch red deer and rancho wt so i cant hm them

my only 2 hm grinds currently are ec fallow, and srp bears in the proccess of hming them

Cuz me and my brother share an Xbox account so we have to switch off who gets the better map lol

[visual glen]

Fallow pissed me off now. 4100 kills with 1 GO after 3.5 k and 120 dimes. Thats enough im starting to grind for my 4 th go red deer. Only got the small rack ( 3 times)

[granite crescent]

Hello, i have a few questions about the red deer grind, anybody can answer me?

[ornate shore]

I can try

[iron sonnet]

i can

[granite crescent]

Oh thats relly nice!

Can you now?

Or maybe later?

[buoyant scroll]

I can too

[granite crescent]

Thank you guys! Can we talk?

[buoyant scroll]

Sure

[iron sonnet]

yea

only becuz ur pfp

[granite crescent]

☺️

Im in the voic chat

[buoyant scroll]

Oh with Mic I can't atm. I am with some friends rn

[granite crescent]

Okey maybe later?

[iron sonnet]

why vc

[granite crescent]

Because thats a long question

I dont know to continue my grind

[iron sonnet]

what is the question

i wont talk

@granite crescent

you decide what lakes you make your main

if it has good zones

then keep the zones

?

has to be a good what?

heart?

hard

?

herd

ah

yeah

if it is a good herd

keep good zones

then shoot that herd

and zones with bad herd

get down to 3s and 4s

and 2s

but the good zones

keep them good

no

shoot the good herd

shoot the deer