🦝︴off-topic

[manic inlet]

but out on the platte river in Nebraska its glorious

[amber wigeon]

Fluffy tail and white stripe so they’re common cranes

[manic inlet]

hundreds of thousands of them and all you can hear are their trills

[serene radish]

Ah

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so thickly landed that you cant see the lake and river surfaces anymore

[amber wigeon]

I was looking at flamingoes and the cranes were just there next to us in a field

[manic inlet]

just cranes everywhere

[serene radish]

I never seen a crane in person

At least in the wild

They migrate through here occasionally but never get to see them

[manic inlet]

its almost an otherwordly experience, especially if theres large amounts of them

theyre almost dinosaurian in a way other birds arent

[amber wigeon]

I saw the cranes, flamingoes, ibis and some niche birds at laguna fuente de piedra in spain

[serene radish]

Yall got flamingos?

[amber wigeon]

Yes

The biggest species

[serene radish]

Being huat

[amber wigeon]

Greater flamingo

[manic inlet]

i think common greater flamingoes right?

yeah

the chonk

cause theyre associated with africa but kinda just

[amber wigeon]

Laguna fuente piedra has the largest population in spain

[manic inlet]

go everywhere

[amber wigeon]

So there were literally straight pink blotches on the lake

[serene radish]

I only found out greater flamingos existed through planet zoo ngl..

Only knew american flamingos existed

[manic inlet]

its shocking that almost everyone else ive ever known was the opposite

know of greaters and sometimes lessers

but then the american flamingo shows up

and theyre like

🤨

wat

[serene radish]

Yeah when I think of a flamingo I always think of the bright pink ones

[amber wigeon]

Europe but especially the mediterranean has some unexpected birds

[serene radish]

Wait i did know lawn flamingos exist too

If that counts

[amber wigeon]

And just animals in general

[manic inlet]

dont forget the ones that saw the andes mountains uplift

thrusting a whole coastline into space

and said

"aight bet, evolution time"

[amber wigeon]

I reckon none of ya’ll knew europe had chameleons before i started glazing them 😭

[serene radish]

I kinda knew

[manic inlet]

and now weve got two separate high altitude flamingoes in south america that occupy different specific niches

[serene radish]

Just not really knowledgeable on European wildlife

[amber wigeon]

My Educated man 🥹

[amber wigeon]

Andean and james’

[serene radish]

Only really knew the basics

[amber wigeon]

I know all about european wildlife

[manic inlet]

just realized its three

chilean too

[serene radish]

I would sure hope so

[amber wigeon]

You could quiz me i reckon at least 85% right

[manic inlet]

what country currently has the largest wisent herd

[serene radish]

Honestly most of my knowledge was grounded in species that are here

[amber wigeon]

Idk shii about populations but i’m guessing like poland? 😭

[serene radish]

Once again if it wasn't for planet zoo I wouldn't have known they are also called wisent

[manic inlet]

im fairly sure for wild pops yeah

theres some humongous ranch in Montana thats a breeding program that has more tho i think

[amber wigeon]

Ok next question

[manic inlet]

random fact: when aurochs went extinct in the 1600s it was considered an international travesty

like there was unironically a period of mourning

[serene radish]

Bro.

[amber wigeon]

They were awesome tho

Now we have the heck cattle

Something like that

[manic inlet]

last surviving herd got double struck by bovine tuberculosis and brucellosis

[serene radish]

Nature wanted them gone ig

[manic inlet]

they was dealt a crappy hand icl

[amber wigeon]

I thought about it i especially know about oddball wildlife of europe

[serene radish]

Legit some divine intervention there having been hit by 2 diseases

Mother nature dealt the last blow

[manic inlet]

yeah, they got bullied for no good reason

ngl if I were legitimately forced

to like

pick ONE species

that got crossed off the census

and have its natural existence restored in the modern world

itd probably be aurochs

cause idk that ending is just so

sad

its not Kauai o'o sad but its sad

[amber wigeon]

I sometimes feel like a kauai o’o bc i can’t find a girlfriend ☹️

[serene radish]

Or the schomburgk's deer

[manic inlet]

its just so tragic that we were down to one pair

[serene radish]

Had to look up the correct spelling

[manic inlet]

and the hen dies in a freak hurricane

and then the rooster sings a duet thatll never be completed again

until he dies

and he dies literally alone in everyway

not just the last of his species or even his genus

but his entire taxonomic family

[amber wigeon]

I’m sad now can we go back to the europe trivia questions 😭

[manic inlet]

a true endling in the worst way

[serene radish]

Went out with a bang

[manic inlet]

how many chameleon species are there in europe

[serene radish]

Probably more than 1

[amber wigeon]

2 both presumably introduced in ancient times

But the mediterranean could have lived there natively

We’re not sure

And the african was introduced in the peloponesse by the greeks from specimens caught in egypt

[serene radish]

Its there now regardless

[manic inlet]

fun fact this damn thing might still be out there

[amber wigeon]

But that population is now endangered ☹️

[serene radish]

Wait fr?

[manic inlet]

so the idea was the last one was that zoo captive buck

that a drunk man shot in 1938

but theres contention over its listing as extinct

because in 1991

a zoologist found an antler on display in a chinese medicine shop

[amber wigeon]

Oooooo

[manic inlet]

and not only did it appear recent

analysis of its chemical composition showed it very likely was

at the very least post-nuclear detonation by the same standard as pre-1945 ivory

[amber wigeon]

It’s always the shady illegal Chinese medicine shops that harbor the cool scientific stuff huh

Shoutout gigantopithecus

[manic inlet]

yeah basically

i think several species have been rediscovered thanks to them

and many dozens more driven extinct or made critically endangered cause of them

[amber wigeon]

Oh awesome

Yeah

[manic inlet]

at least one dolphin and 5 fish that i can immediately think of

[amber wigeon]

Still more bad then good

[manic inlet]

god knows how many birds

[amber wigeon]

But we can find some good in it

[manic inlet]

truth

[amber wigeon]

But back to trivia or i’ll be sad all day 😭

Billy died

Unfortunate

[manic inlet]

what is europe's largest bird

as in body mass

[serene radish]

I was grabbing water

[amber wigeon]

Like weight?

Or pure body size

[manic inlet]

weight

[serene radish]

or wingspan

[amber wigeon]

Heaviest is great bustard, i went looking for those but no succes

[manic inlet]

damn

now how about wingspan

[serene radish]

On the bright side

You found the iberian worm lizard

[amber wigeon]

I think that’s dalmatian pelican

[manic inlet]

also whats up with most flight capable birds being a regular weight

[amber wigeon]

True

[manic inlet]

and then pelicans, bustards, albatrosses, and some eagles rock up

and its just like

I AM A GOD AMONG MORTALS

[amber wigeon]

But in spain there is a bunch of mountains then steppes over and over again do to collision with the african plate

In the steppes there are both great and little bustard

And loads of other cool birds

[manic inlet]

pelicans can be on demon timing sometimes ngl

they just be out here eating things whole

[amber wigeon]

Eurasian thick-knee

[manic inlet]

they do pigeons and ducks dirty

[serene radish]

Insert that video of pelican trying to eat a capy

[manic inlet]

biblically accurate greed

[serene radish]

Their greed sickens me

[amber wigeon]

Did you guys know europe has an animal with a gestation period longer then a elephant

[serene radish]

No

[amber wigeon]

The alpine salamander

[manic inlet]

oh yeah

[serene radish]

Being huat tho

[manic inlet]

the salamander

[serene radish]

For how long?

[manic inlet]

ima let you give the lore

billy buckle up

this is wild

dont be drinking

[serene radish]

Buckled in

[amber wigeon]

4 years at some conditions

[manic inlet]

see

like i said

[serene radish]

Goodness gracious

Those children are investments then.

[manic inlet]

greenland sharks went even wilder with it

[amber wigeon]

They also look cool as hell

[serene radish]

IT GOES HIGHER??

[amber wigeon]

And there’s a second species, lanza’s alpine salamander

[manic inlet]

8-18 years but its not a single pregnancy per se

its 8 to 18 years of the female literally gestating batches of babies out of thousands of fertilized eggs

and just doing constant back to back births in cycles

[amber wigeon]

Holy 😭

[manic inlet]

its thought this is why theyre still so common and doing well despite frequent bycatch

cause a given female can spawn thousands off offspring from a single mating event

their aging and maturation is slow as hell tho

[manic inlet]

slow as in a greenie pup born the year the US Civil War started is only just now old enough to mate

[serene radish]

Ain no way

[amber wigeon]

What cold temperatures do to a creature….

[manic inlet]

it seems to vary based on conditions but they grow hella slow, so reproductive maturity is at minimum like 85 years

[serene radish]

I can only imagine 😭

[manic inlet]

180 ish in the worst

average range of like 110 to 150

[serene radish]

Yikes.

[manic inlet]

not that much of their lifespan considering their theoretical upper limit is in the 600 to 800 year range and we know of 450 to 570 year old sharks that, by their scinescence or aging cycles, are biologically middle aged

[amber wigeon]

Insane

[manic inlet]

its why theyre my favorite fish

theyre just

[amber wigeon]

Also found in europe btw 😏

[manic inlet]

so extreme

and evolved to become Boomer Prime

[serene radish]

I don't even have a reaction image for this

[manic inlet]

indeed

[serene radish]

The Peepaw shark

[manic inlet]

oh and their flesh is literally poison

like to everything

[serene radish]

That part I knew

[amber wigeon]

Yes so they ferment it and then icelandish people eat it

[serene radish]

But the whole gestation and lifespan thing.

[manic inlet]

them mfs built different

[serene radish]

Thats new

[amber wigeon]

Icelandics are fake

Gotta be

[manic inlet]

-# new food discovered

ICELANDIC SHARK SLAB

[serene radish]

I say the same thing about my own state but yet here we are

[manic inlet]

they also have an almost commensurate symbiotic relationship with a parasite

because they have decent eyesight

[serene radish]

Doesn't it attach to their eyes

[manic inlet]

but the eye itself is like

[amber wigeon]

“Yes i live in iceland next to a lava flow, never seen a tree, eat fermented sharks and part of my country is just a giant glacier”

[manic inlet]

useless to them cause theyre in the dark all the time

[manic inlet]

yeah

and whats crazier

theres research to indicate that it increases hunting success

because it acts as a lure

[amber wigeon]

Any crustacean parasite is scary

[manic inlet]

and the shark, basically a swimming wallhack combined with a heartbeat sensor

can just munch anything that goes for the parasite

[serene radish]

Crustaceans in general are scary

[amber wigeon]

True

[serene radish]

Yeti crabs especially

[amber wigeon]

Actually billy i have an exception

[serene radish]

Or the ol beloved coconut crabs

[amber wigeon]

Rubber ducky isopods

Isopods are crustaceans

[serene radish]

Good point.

[amber wigeon]

Any small isopod is pretty tho imo

There’s even death metal isopods

[manic inlet]

nature after evolving crablike lifeforms for the like

[amber wigeon]

Black white and covered in spikes

[manic inlet]

what is it now?

11 times?

[serene radish]

Perfect lifeform

It all leads to crabs

[manic inlet]

given that all radioactive materials eventually degrade into lead

we must assume that this means in the future

everything is lead crabs

i feel like thatd be an actual futurama skit

[serene radish]

Reject humanity embrace crab

[amber wigeon]

I give you death metal isopod

[serene radish]

What a cutie

[manic inlet]

who tf are his opps?

is he beefing with the decepticons?

[serene radish]

Reminds me of sea bunnies

[manic inlet]

YES

[amber wigeon]

Beetles

[manic inlet]

BEST

[manic inlet]

so unironically decepticons

[serene radish]

Sea bunnies are goated

[amber wigeon]

You know you guys can buy the isopod right

Only 200 euros a specimen

[serene radish]

Knowing cali tho..

Our laws tend to be all over the place when it comes to pets

[manic inlet]

meanwhile in colorado

theres a specific list

of native herptiles

frogs, salamanders, lizards, toads, snakes

that youre allowed to just

take

[amber wigeon]

Idk how isopods do it but they make you actually think about spending 30 euros on one bug

[manic inlet]

and keep as a pet

no more than 4 of each species and 12 total

cant sell or barter em

but like

if you have an empty terrarium

[amber wigeon]

Prairie racerunner terrarium

[manic inlet]

and its set up

for like a 6 foot bullsnake

and you find a 6 foot bullsnake out on a walk

you can just take it, put it in a quarantine container

get it all checked up and medicated

[serene radish]

You cant even have hedgehogs or ferrets here

[manic inlet]

then move it to the terrarium

[manic inlet]

wa-

[amber wigeon]

I wish i could do this

[serene radish]

Ik I was mad when I learned I couldn't legally keep a hedgehog

[manic inlet]

can do it with tiger salamanders too

[amber wigeon]

Just catch a sand lizard put it in a heather based terrarium

[manic inlet]

which oddly

[serene radish]

So i resorted to guinea pigs

[manic inlet]

are also a game animal

like

youre allowed to net the riverbound larvae

when theyre gilled

[amber wigeon]

DO NOT LICK THE TIGER SALAMANDER

[manic inlet]

idk why

[serene radish]

Im gonna lick it

[manic inlet]

L I C K

[amber wigeon]

BILLY NOOOOO

tiger salamander will make you sick fire salamander will kill you

[serene radish]

https://tenor.com/view/code-gif-26045129

[amber wigeon]

Also fun fact did you guys know there are at least 4 species of fire salamander

[manic inlet]

this how sodium deficient ungulates be acting when they see road salt

[serene radish]

I was gonna use that other gif but this was funnier because it was more frantic

[amber wigeon]

The common, the penibetic, the algerian and the corsican

[serene radish]

Not enough fire salamanders

[manic inlet]

we need more

[serene radish]

Evolution make more 🗣‼️

[manic inlet]

at least 185,000 more

[serene radish]

All roads lead to fire salamanders now

[amber wigeon]

Also i love that the penibetic is also called long snouted, and it’s latin name is Salamandra longirostris 😭

Salamander with a long nose

[manic inlet]

oh and speaking of amphibians

[serene radish]

Long nostrils

[manic inlet]

apparently like

several species of native north american frog and salamander

are just spontaneously evolving resistance to invasive fungal infections

[amber wigeon]

YES

YES YES YES

We needed that

[manic inlet]

and apparently a previously listed extinct salamander species was rediscovered by the dumptruck load under random bridges and in urban park ponds

[serene radish]

Huge w for the amphibian world

[amber wigeon]

What species?

[manic inlet]

"man its so sad these are extinct"

"extinct? tf is this then?"

biologist heart attack

[manic inlet]

long-toed salamander iirc

[amber wigeon]

amphibians and reptiles are goated

[manic inlet]

in Washington

same state where a species of salmon previously thought extinct

resurrected from the dead when their natal river was undammed

turned out theyre exceptionally long lived and had an oceanic adult stage

so they just

waited

occasionally spawned in brackish water

[amber wigeon]

I don’t know much about european amphibians…. Try me

[serene radish]

Ngl thanks to happie ive gotten more into looking to native reptiles and amphibians here

One i really liked was the Santa Cruz long-toed salamander

[amber wigeon]

My purpose is full filled

[manic inlet]

most of them are just neat little guys

and then theres bullfrogs

[amber wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/kung-fu-panda-kung-fu-kungfupanda-timetogo-imustleaveyou-gif-4308363678620630598

[manic inlet]

which are also neat and cool

but also food

in CO you just need a valid fishing license to hunt them

and youre allowed to just take the damn thing

[serene radish]

It has such a tiny range but it'll be cool to see one at some point

[manic inlet]

full fisted grab of doom

can also shank it with a gigging pike

which is basically a smaller angrier trident

[amber wigeon]

Have you ever caught a pike as in the fish

[manic inlet]

no but I saw one bulldoze a trout at mach 46 in a lake once

[amber wigeon]

Yes they are awesome

[manic inlet]

hit that bastard so hard his soul went back in time and talked to Abraham Lincolm

[serene radish]

I'm not even joking

[manic inlet]

oh my god

[serene radish]

This range is small

[amber wigeon]

This net is 50cm long btw and he still had to curl up

[serene radish]

W fih

[manic inlet]

only thing smaller than that that I know of in the US is that one cave salamander enedmic to pennsylvania

its in 3 caves

so the range is just 3 dots

[serene radish]

Jeez.

[manic inlet]

the wierd thing is afaik the caves are not connected

so they mustve evolved when they still were subterranean connected

and then just been isolated recently

whats up with amphibians and living in the most ungodly conditions

[amber wigeon]

The us has by far the most salamander of any country

[manic inlet]

"no food? aight bet"

[amber wigeon]

Turtle frog…..

[manic inlet]

"i can fast for about 135 years this is fine"

[manic inlet]

frurtle

turtog

[amber wigeon]

It is the texture of a pinky mouse

But drier

Quite disturbing

[serene radish]

Ew

[manic inlet]

he looks disappointed about the economy

[serene radish]

Oh my goodness its beautiful

[manic inlet]

THE STANCE

WHY IS BRO JACKED

[amber wigeon]

That one doubled jointed guy at school:

[manic inlet]

HE LOOKS LIKE HE BENCHES TWICE HIS BODYWEIGHT

[serene radish]

It looks like a mini cotylorhynchus

[amber wigeon]

MINI MOSCHOPS

[manic inlet]

MINISCHOPS

[serene radish]

Moschops my beloved

Loved the ambient ones in Carnivores

Goated dinosaur hunting game

[amber wigeon]

For some reason europe has a salamander that looks just like an american species

But isn’t related at all

[manic inlet]

that thing is the only animal in history with the build of AND9 basketball shorts

design philosophy?

W I D E

and I love it

[serene radish]

Wait honse

[manic inlet]

and given how huge herbivores be i wonder if it was hippo levels of violent

[amber wigeon]

The golden striped salamander from northern spain and portugal

[serene radish]

I just remembered

You know how you said that other range was 3 dots

[amber wigeon]

Looks just like the 2 striped salamander

[manic inlet]

yes

is there smaller

is it a cave salamander from only 1 cave

[serene radish]

Check this out

1 dot

The black toad

[amber wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/ken-jeong-cant-see-this-funny-gif-14446155

[manic inlet]

bro

that range

goddamn

[amber wigeon]

Only vulnerable tho

Hell yeah

[serene radish]

Surprisingly

[manic inlet]

dude it looks like a clouded leopard

[amber wigeon]

IT DOES

Goated animal with a goated pattern

[serene radish]

Literally native to ONE COUNTY here

[amber wigeon]

Pls dont eat it

[serene radish]

1 dot of range🥀

[serene radish]

Now I want to

Shouldn't have said that

[manic inlet]

i guess at least its more than like

that one cave salamander in like australia

where theres like 45 of them in an singular cave

[amber wigeon]

Montseny brook newt

Rarest in europe

[past bison]

Holy moly I never want to have two cats ever again

There’s so much catsand everywhere rn

[manic inlet]

wat happen

[manic inlet]

oh

oh no

[past bison]

A damn mess lmao

[serene radish]

Shoot..

4 hour drive i MIGHT have to go see that toad

[past bison]

I need to vacuum and mop the floor the second the chonky boy leaves

[past bison]

I believe in you

[amber wigeon]

Do it

[serene radish]

The suffering of owning cats

[serene radish]

Ty

[manic inlet]

WITNESS THE TOAD

[past bison]

Fr like Nami is demure and delightful and only gets a little sand on the floor

The big boy is so messy holy shid

[serene radish]

I might do it at some point just not any time soon need the perfect moment with too much freetime on my hands

[past bison]

Fr

[amber wigeon]

Billy sleep in a tent and listen for the toad

Best way to find them

[past bison]

Lucky me I don’t own the man so I can just send him back today lmao

Back to one cat we go

[serene radish]

I must witness the toad i cannot live without that experience

[amber wigeon]

Witness the toad and share the greatness with us

[past bison]

You simply must

And also show pic

[amber wigeon]

Look for sites that might have them beforehand

[serene radish]

Will do

[serene radish]

Legit planning all of this out

[amber wigeon]

Billy on the quest for the black toad

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-bateman-desert-patrick-bateman-desert-memes-bike-gif-14915528305895461600

[jovial flare]

How’s that going

[past bison]

Too much cat litter everywhere

[jovial flare]

Why are people talking about a toad

And then a newt

[jovial flare]

Okay that is a cool toad

Or frog

Looks too moist in my mind for a toad

[dusty socket]

i should make use of the verticality of my apartment, and start using the space above what is already in my apartment to get more room in here. I want to build bulk storage over top of my bed, but also, there's stuff I could build under it, and over my PC/work area.. maybe i could get a reptile enclosure here

[amber wigeon]

Bc they are cool

[past bison]

No clue

[west bronze]

Guys pro tip DO NOT just stop taking your bpd meds cold turkey its not fun

[past bison]

Bruh why would you do that

[west bronze]

i can’t afford the meds so i can’t take them

[sick briar]

AVG America moment 🥀

SSRIs/mood stabilisers in au cost like 5 bucks with healthcare subsidies per script

[past bison]

Ah rip

[west bronze]

real

[west bronze]

its okay though i missed hearing people yelling that aren’t there and feeling crazy

[sick briar]

that sounds like alot more then borderline 🥀

[west bronze]

mb i forgot to mention im schizophrenic

but to afford my meds ima sell my ps5

[sick briar]

casually forgets to mention

[west bronze]

lol

[sick briar]

also don't you get the zaps as well if you stop some medication like that

[west bronze]

yes they been going insane

goosebumps every 5 mins excessive sweating etc

[past bison]

I got them for two weeks when I quit escitalopram cold turkey

[west bronze]

not to mention im also out of my blood pressure meds, anger meds, etc

I’m genuinely cooked

[sick briar]

"yeah I'm out of EVERYTHING"

[west bronze]

fr😭 only thing i got rn is a smidge of sanity

[lavish marsh]

Wonder where this door goes

[craggy plaza]

That's right, in the square hole

[sick briar]

mmm anime

[sick briar]

I dropped darker than black like a year ago after watching like 15 episodes because idk I got busy with life and now I'm picking it back up from episode 1 incase I forgot any minor details

[crisp whale]

Hug your moms today guys

[dusty socket]

that would be weird

[crisp whale]

Son

[past bison]

I don’t think I will

[crisp whale]

😭

I was just saying it cuz it’s Mother’s Day here 😭

[dusty socket]

yeah, but mine's dead

[crisp whale]

Im sorry 😭

[main trail]

Yeah but im 3 hours from home so...

I'll do that when I get home

[crisp whale]

Then call her or something

[main trail]

No im on my way home

In person always better

Me and hugging dont really go well together though I hate hugs lmao

[crisp whale]

Lwk same but I do it for my mom

[past bison]

I know lmao

I’m in another country and low contact with my mom

Haven’t seen her in three years

[crisp whale]

Text her maybe?

Idk

I’m sorry 😭

[past bison]

Lmao nah xD

[past bison]

Nono it’s okay it was mostly my decision and my life is much better without my parents in it

[lavish marsh]

Left awesome Finland for awesome Sweden

[past bison]

Frr

Not so awesome finland tbh

I’ve never liked the country too much

[amber wigeon]

I didn’t get my mom a gift

I don’t think she was very happy with me

[past bison]

Rip

Get her some flowers or chocolate

[crisp whale]

I didn’t get my mom a gift either but it’s ok cuz it’s my day now

[amber wigeon]

I still live with them but normally me and my sister get something together

But she is barely home nowadays

Cons of being in the army ig

I’m the only sibling who isn’t contemplating the army 😭

[main trail]

So everyone else is going into the army in your family

[amber wigeon]

My brother and sister yes

[main trail]

Respect.

[amber wigeon]

I’m the only one going to college

Army is like a last ditch effort

[main trail]

I am too I think

[amber wigeon]

I’ll see whatever job i get

[main trail]

Idk im kinda there for the fun more then the learning lmao

[amber wigeon]

Would like being some kind of biologist but that could mean 8 years of college….

[main trail]

I know hella biology

[amber wigeon]

So do i

[main trail]

Nice

[main trail]

I excel in fishing though, like lake plants and stuff

[amber wigeon]

But need to get a degree then another degree at a higher like level of education ig?

[main trail]

And have to pay like 50,000-100,000 dollars worth of college

[amber wigeon]

Not here

I’m not in the us

[main trail]

Oh

[main trail]

I should leave the US just for college then come back

[amber wigeon]

It’s looking like 10,000-18,000 euros if i do two studies

But idk what i’ll end up doing

[thin umbra]

in norway its free to go in college

[crisp whale]

Mine was free

Thank goodness

[amber wigeon]

Bridge

[main trail]

Lucky😕

[serene radish]

Damn thats pretty

You using a texture pack?

[lavish marsh]

Hmmm I see a pattern

[hoary wharf]

Foxyyyyyyyy

[lavish marsh]

[main trail]

Ohhhh I get it

Foxy is the next G1 on the new map

[hoary wharf]

😭

[lavish marsh]

Yes!!!

[main trail]

😁

[lavish marsh]

There's also Mälker

[hoary wharf]

Moose👹

[crisp whale]

That’s so adorable

[west bronze]

hello people of the internet

[crimson belfry]

Hello

[west bronze]

wsp

[crimson belfry]

Hru?

[west bronze]

I was doing good but I got over it wbu

[crimson belfry]

Tire

Tired

[west bronze]

I feel you same

[crimson belfry]

Its 12:16am here

[west bronze]

Oh lord

[crimson belfry]

Xd yeah

[pulsar oak]

I frickin loved these missions 🥹

Spoiler for people who didn’t finish Medved yet

[wraith goblet]

Those missions are premium.

[main trail]

"Please end his suffering" BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM

[craggy plaza]

What yall think so far?

Its not done yet obv but I think it looks good

[crisp whale]

thats tuff

[craggy plaza]

Nooo that's deepslate😂😂😂😂

🤣

[crisp whale]

yall my daughter made me a sea shell necklace all on her own 😭

shes so adorable

im not crying

youre crying

[craggy plaza]

Hmm

Could be fire

Srry bout the quality its dark in my room rn

Camera kinda gets to be ass in dark

[crisp whale]

pringles are some yummy

[craggy plaza]

Its smoky bacon flavor🤔

[main trail]

Hm.... looks like a watermelon

[heavy breach]

So apparently on Mother’s Day people have tons of puppies and kittens they’re just throwing away

So now I just have this guy in my house. I haven’t talked enough in here since re-joining to be able to share pics so sorry yall 🤣

Just imagine a really cute tiny kitten in my bathroom

[main trail]

What😢

[heavy breach]

Yea I just moved to a different city (in the country) and ig I got lucky bc there’s tons of people just giving them out 🥲

I hope they all find good homes , I would have taken another if I didn’t already have 1 in a 1br

[main trail]

But like why would they just wanna get rid of them especially on mother's day

😢

[heavy breach]

Easy to pawn them off on husbands trying to find a late gift 😅

It’s not an ethical way to offload animals but it works, or else people wouldn’t do it this way anymore

[jovial flare]

What you doing with that pringles can

[west bronze]

hypothetically with enough dedication and know how couldn’t you make your own t72

[manic inlet]

with enough dedication, time, and money I'd say so yeah

[west bronze]

wonderful

[obsidian bay]

Okay wait can we get a picture of daughters shell artistry? Because that's adorable 🙏

[west bronze]

hey tyk how r u

[obsidian bay]

I'm good, how are you?

[amber wigeon]

Might be able to convince dad to go on a road trip

Germany france maybe even spain

Or italy

I like them all

[rare veldt]

Germany has nice food😌

Italy also has nice food

Strangely enough the pizza was not as good as pizza express but maybe that’s just more to do with me growing up eating one kind of pizza and getting used to that and liking it more than the Italian stuff being “bad”

Anyway they have really good ice cream

[west bronze]

Good to hear! I’m good as well

[amber wigeon]

I don’t really go for food

[rare veldt]

Fair enough

If the food is good I’ll go there

[amber wigeon]

Might go southern france all the way to the mediterranean

Look for cools stuff along the way

[eager roost]

That sounds awesome

[crisp whale]

It’s got her name on it so no 😅

[amber wigeon]

Bit of a wildlife road trip

Could do anything along the way

[eager roost]

I moved from the desert southwest in America to Iowa and was amazed at how many animals walk through the cities

[amber wigeon]

I’m in europe so that distance would be like 5 countries here lol

[eager roost]

Woods going through the middle of Cedar Rapids

Your countries are like our states

[obsidian bay]

oh shoot okay, never mind 😂

I thought it was just a string she laid shells out on or something - and wanted to applaud the artist and her craft haha

[amber wigeon]

If the trip goes through, i already have a lifelist prepared 😭

[crisp whale]

Haha I’ll make sure to give her plenty of praise haha

[obsidian bay]

🙏

[crisp whale]

It lwk is but it’s got beads spelling her name out. Which was the most adorable Mother’s Day present 🥹

[obsidian bay]

I love that sm

[amber wigeon]

Aesculapian snake, dice snake, smooth snake, vipera aspis, vipera berus, european pond turtle and the main target: Hermann’s tortoise

FIRE SALAMANDER

[eager roost]

@amber wigeon England is about the same size as iowa

[obsidian bay]

Happie

Happie the WISTERIA

[amber wigeon]

I have yellow wisteria in my street

It probably has a different name

But last summer it was almost orange

[eager roost]

And Italy is the size of Arizona

[amber wigeon]

Folded out tho lol

[amber wigeon]

All or at least most of this stuff is one the direct route

I’m going looking for Hermanns tortoise near marseilles if i do go

[obsidian bay]

The lawn crew the apartment guys hired hacked down the vines

[amber wigeon]

But those add aesthetic ☹️

[obsidian bay]

the big one is decimated but it looks like this small one survived

[serene radish]

I love these flowers

Pretty

[obsidian bay]

AGREE

[serene radish]

Yall lucky I never see those

[amber wigeon]

Tyk look at the little tank baby

I just gotta see one of these

[serene radish]

Happie

I have a question

[amber wigeon]

I probably have an answer

[serene radish]

Is it edible

[amber wigeon]

Yes, but I will airdrop a 500 pound galapagos tortoise on your head

[obsidian bay]

FROWN

[serene radish]

Big sad

[serene radish]

I will shave you again

[amber wigeon]

He knows a hyrax wants to eat him

I would be sad too

[wraith goblet]

He’s just from the streets.

[amber wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/duel-slap-glove-i-challenge-you-to-a-duel-homer-gif-16137544

I have seen sea turtles and terrapins in the wild but missed out on tortoises

I gotta see one this year

[crisp whale]

I love tortoises

Whenever I go to work I feed them apples

[amber wigeon]

I’ve only ever seen them at zoos

[obsidian bay]

we had a few tortoises at my last job, I was so happy to place them with good people before I moved

cherry head red foots

[amber wigeon]

I was at a zoo that had speckled padlopers

[obsidian bay]

bigger than this one, but its a good look at'em

[amber wigeon]

Biggest female was barely over 10cm 😭

I have been in range for 2 off 3 european tortoises and not seen a sign of them 😭

[craggy plaza]

Huh?

Well when I eat the pringles I'll throw the can away

Id assume that would be obvious...no?

[eager roost]

great, windows updated and now the game is running like molasses

even did all the tech support suggestions

[craggy plaza]

@obsidian bay accidentally woke they babas up🤣😭

They look very upset😭

They all looking at me😭

[obsidian bay]

THEY REQUIRE SUSTENANCE

[craggy plaza]

They are fed but now they plotting on my downfall in the background😭

I hear then quietly communicating 😭

[obsidian bay]

Plotting their escape from their chamber

[craggy plaza]

Btw these minus the black ones😭 are the same babas

Theve gotten soo much bigger😭

Why can't they stay little floofs😭

[dusty socket]

how long until they're edible?

[craggy plaza]

They are bantums lol they are only good for tiny eggs and being adorable

[craggy plaza]

Behold

[serene radish]

Peak

[woven hamlet]

fathers day present about to just be like a rock she found 😭

[amber wigeon]

Watch that rock actually harbor a scorpion and hospitalize you yet again

[woven hamlet]

idek if we have scorpions lol

[amber wigeon]

Probably do

They are found up to like the carolinas

[woven hamlet]

we live in a swamp tho

like i thought they liked it dry

[amber wigeon]

Yeah is harder for them to reach you

[crisp whale]

https://tenor.com/view/back-off-this-is-my-swamp-shrek-shreks-swamp-gif-12025865

[amber wigeon]

Vengence i have a question

Have you ever worked with milos vipers or blunt nosed vipers

[woven hamlet]

lol that was me logging into her account to use her gif permissions

ill ask her tho

[crisp whale]

Yes I have

[amber wigeon]

Awesome, i was reading up on them today

They almost look like a rattlesnake puff adder hybrid

[crisp whale]

They’re kinda cute

[woven hamlet]

are there any snakes you havent worked with?

[amber wigeon]

Probably Malayan spiny jawed snake

[crisp whale]

I mean there are likely dozens of not hundreds of undiscovered species

So those

And some of the rarer snakes

[amber wigeon]

Saint lucia racer?

[crisp whale]

I have never like worked with one but I have seen one before

But like it was just in passing and we didn’t bother it

[amber wigeon]

Wild or captive?

[woven hamlet]

wild

[amber wigeon]

I’m going to germany and france to look for aesculapian snakes, adders, aspic vipers, dice snakes and smooth snakes

[amber wigeon]

Probably one in only a few thousand people at best have seen one

I can not spell properly 😭

[amber wigeon]

For aspic viper we’ll probably have to cross into france because germany has a tiny critically endangered population

[crisp whale]

Fun

[amber wigeon]

And we’ll go as far south as possible

[crisp whale]

On a separate note

[crisp whale]

We are sitting in the same room on the same bed less then 2 feet apart and you texted to ask this😭😭

[main trail]

Thats ur husband

?

[crisp whale]

Is that a question

[main trail]

Yep

[crisp whale]

Yes that is my husband

Not happie

Baddog

For the record

[amber wigeon]

I have nothing to with their marriage

Believe it or not

[woven hamlet]

son im dead

[main trail]

Nah u definitely were that one guy being obnoxious in the crowd

[crisp whale]

Umm I’m pretty sure happie is like 16 😭

[main trail]

Oh😭

[crisp whale]

You’re not the one who needs to say oh 😭

Son😭😭

[main trail]

😭

[amber wigeon]

WE SHARE NOTHING BUT AN INTEREST FOR REPTILES I PROMISE

[brazen scarab]

💔 💔

[woven hamlet]

this has got to be a <@&393042322499305473> issue

[brazen scarab]

my bad 💔

[brazen scarab]

ay calm down I’ll be better next time

[amber wigeon]

It is not appropriate for the server either 😭

Let 2 people talk about snakes in peace 😔

[crisp whale]

I’m so insanely uncomfortable rn😭

[amber wigeon]

I’m gonna have to process this for a bit

[crisp whale]

I always just talk to the tortoises at work about my problems

[pale shale]

and he wonders why i blocked him

[amber wigeon]

Tortoise always care about your problems they just take a little while to show their reactions

[crisp whale]

They love Apples

[amber wigeon]

I’ve gone looking for hermann’s in greece but never found it

Came a bit late in the year

[pale shale]

if you had the chance to own a gaboon viper would you do it

or do you value your life lol

[amber wigeon]

I would do it

[pale shale]

i wouldnt even look one in the eye

terrifying creatures lmao

[woven hamlet]

id do it

jk

im sure i know someone who would tho 🙄

[pale shale]

i know they're docile as hell but nah i wouldnt take the chance

[crisp whale]

Gaboons are cool

Gabinos are beautiful

[sick briar]

dawg

[amber wigeon]

I’d just get a big terrarium and handle it as little as possible

[sick briar]

they arnt docile enough where they will "never" attack

[serene radish]

That reminds me

Did you ever get those isopods

Or no longer the plan

[pale shale]

dawg

i never said they are

[amber wigeon]

I haven’t had the time to pay for the order

[pale shale]

so i don't really get why you're trying to correct me

[serene radish]

Ah

[pale shale]

fair

[amber wigeon]

Once a little while tho

I’d handle it just a little

[pale shale]

over here you need to be licensed for them and have insurance and an antivenom protocol here

they're understandably very restricted

[amber wigeon]

Probably the same here

I think i’m allergic to pen ink 😭

I got some on my hand and it left a red and swollen line

[serene radish]

Or you got sensitive skin

[sick briar]

who would wanna actually own a snake that if it wanted to could just decide to bite and kill you 🥀

[amber wigeon]

Might be

[crisp whale]

🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️

Me

[pale shale]

several people including but not limited to zoos, herpetologists, experienced hobby snake owners and mother nature herself

[obsidian bay]

While

I can say owning venomous species is not on my to-do list

I think they are beautiful

[brazen scarab]

Would be pretty cool

[obsidian bay]

and that if you have proper training and licensing, and enclosures for them -

[woven hamlet]

isnt the permit for all venomous species the same there?

[obsidian bay]

I am all for people being prepared and taking care of them.

[sick briar]

mm yes the .5 lens

[pale shale]

the face i made when my friend told me he didnt wash his hands before eating after handling his dart frogs was something like this

https://tenor.com/view/startamilchat-sanjay-chat-star-tamil-chat-star-chat-tamil-chat-gif-4417548592457898005

i know they're not typically poisonous in captivity but my god

have some damn survival instinct my guy

[loud panther]

My dad found a free gaming pc on the curb and brought it home, I looked and it had everything components wise and a 950w power supply. Im thinking I got super lucky, look at the ssd and it's 120gb, 2 4gb sticks of ddr3

Has enough fans built into the case it should be able to take flight

[pale shale]

950w psu isnt bad

whats the CPU/GPU

[loud panther]

Haven't checked to cpu, still need to look up the gpu

[crisp whale]

if you dont have cuts on your hands then youre usually somewhat safe

[pale shale]

you're indefinitely safe granted you don't have access to its wild diet, but you do have to watch out for e coli and salmonella

however if you have access to its wild diet be cautious lmao

[crisp whale]

i mean like in the wild lol

[pale shale]

i'm pretty sure thumbnail darties are safe to handle

like even with cuts

[crisp whale]

when it enters your blodd stream is when it starts to mess you up

[pale shale]

diets differ from larger variations of darties

[crisp whale]

golden darts can kill you in like 2 minutes if you have cuts or it enters your blood stream somehow

[pale shale]

they're the only dart frog that feast on a specific kind of small insect containing batrachotoxin

hence why they are the biggest killers

[loud panther]

xfx radeon hd 6870 for gpu, amd phenom II of some sort for cpu, can't read it

[pale shale]

and most used for poison arrows

[scarlet wharf]

drawing a thanator rn

[obsidian bay]

Okay but wait

Captive Bred ones aren't full of toxic goobies

[crisp whale]

yes

[pale shale]

your gpu only has a single gigabyte of vRam

[pale shale]

yes

[crisp whale]

so theyre safe to handle

[obsidian bay]

they dont eat the diet that consumes plants that give the diet and thus the frogs the toxic goobies

[pale shale]

its just i wouldnt be taking chances

[obsidian bay]

'safe'
(dont handle frogs bare handed y'all - they absorb ERRTHANG through their skin)

[crisp whale]

but they still do potentially carry like salmonella

[pale shale]

salmonella, e. coli etc and lots of it to boot

their environments are great at harboring it

[obsidian bay]

I mean the toxicity chance is null and void - esp if you breed them yourself.
Just be aware of other icks

(I have yet to die from touching a captive frog - and then forgetting, and wiping my forehead or something)

[loud panther]

Yeah not worth a whole lot, probably worth more breaking it down for the precious metals

[amber wigeon]

And are very very highly susceptible to any kind of fungus spored om your hand

[pale shale]

i'd just try to overclock it as madly as i could to pass time

push it til it blows up

[pale shale]

true

i still want to get darties

i want to do a full rainforest with soundscapes build

[amber wigeon]

I have a meh rainforest terrarium

[pale shale]

i was going to do the whole landscaping foam stuff

but then covid hit and dart frogs tripled in price and my wallet didnt like that

[crisp whale]

im working on getting mine built

[amber wigeon]

What’re you addding

[pale shale]

bromeliads are the easiest

just get lots of bromeliads

hundreds of them

[amber wigeon]

I have 4 potted bromeliads are producing pups

[crisp whale]

right now its just small fish

[amber wigeon]

Also awesome

[obsidian bay]

I dont remember - do you root water, or water down the funnel of the brom'?

[amber wigeon]

I water specifically in the funnel and i just mist the sphagnum moss they are in

[crisp whale]

it used to be in our house but my husband made me take it apart and move it

[pale shale]

you're doing paludarium then?

[serene radish]

I fr need a nap or something I read camelids

[crisp whale]

by which i mean he paid people to move it cuz im just a girlie

[amber wigeon]

No billy there are no llama’s, camels or dromedaries in my terrarium

[amber wigeon]

I need to do this

[serene radish]

What about alpacas or guanacos

[pale shale]

they look amazing

[amber wigeon]

They do

I’m buying wet moss mix for the background

[pale shale]

they do tend to split the seams of some of the exoterra tanks though, so buying the ones specifically designed for paludarium use is best

[amber wigeon]

Believe it or not, still no

[pale shale]

exoterra make paludarium tanks luckily

[serene radish]

I feel like you are lying

[marsh prawn]

I think i accidentally grew mold

[serene radish]

Its such a reasonable thing to have in a terrarium

[amber wigeon]

Like specially designed?

[pale shale]

just uses stronger sealants on the glass seams

[amber wigeon]

how do you accidentally create a new lifeform

[serene radish]

The blob

Its gonna keep eating and growing

[amber wigeon]

Ohhhh

[pale shale]

my uncle found out the hard way when his exo terra ruptured lol

[marsh prawn]

I put some random nonsense in here 😭

[amber wigeon]

I can tell

[serene radish]

Open it

[pale shale]

i think the bottom front glass is also a bit deeper to allow a higher water level too

[marsh prawn]

This probably has a disease in it

[amber wigeon]

Might have to reenforce my exo terra with some silicone then

[serene radish]

Made a new disease with that

[marsh prawn]

Lemme get out the other ones hold on

[amber wigeon]

That’s useful as well i can do 3 inches water max

[amber wigeon]

You pulled the pigments out of that leaf

How the hell

[marsh prawn]

Which one

[amber wigeon]

Big one on the right

Stuck to the glass

[marsh prawn]

The middle one has genuine poison in it

It looks so weird

And one is like

Fully withered

[amber wigeon]

Mustard relish everything hellish

[marsh prawn]

Do i open the middle one

[amber wigeon]

Pls do not

[marsh prawn]

Why

[amber wigeon]

Reasons

[serene radish]

Theres enough diseases in the world

You dont need to release more

[amber wigeon]

Unless it works against something bad

[serene radish]

Theres at least 5 new ones in there

[obsidian bay]

sounds like you need to fight'im.
I wont tell 🙏

[marsh prawn]

Probably more

[serene radish]

Good point

[marsh prawn]

I wanna open the fully withered one

[amber wigeon]

Where do i put money on the winner

[obsidian bay]

Uh.. UHH..

https://tenor.com/view/doando-caixa-de-doacao-doacao-donating-donation-box-gif-15849287

right here

[crisp whale]

hes like 6'5 so bet on him

[amber wigeon]

How much does he weigh bc that matters in a fight

[crisp whale]

235 lbs

[amber wigeon]

I’m almost 6’2 but 140 pounds

[marsh prawn]

Genuinely a behemoth

[amber wigeon]

You’ll get some of money for the injuries

[marsh prawn]

Is this you

[crisp whale]

yeah hes big

[crisp whale]

i would force him to foot the medical bills

[serene radish]

Built like a crosswalk sign

[main trail]

No thats being generous

[crisp whale]

just like im forcing him to foot the bill for my habitat

[amber wigeon]

This has to be bullying to a degree

I’m telling tyk

[obsidian bay]

Happie he'd origami you :C

[serene radish]

If I was bullying you it would be much more insulting

[marsh prawn]

Its true tho

[obsidian bay]

this is why you're MVP

[amber wigeon]

I’m still growing too

6’6 150 pounds

[serene radish]

It'll be funny if you just hit your peak and only gain weight from here on

[main trail]

Thats still skinny for that height😭

[obsidian bay]

stop shaving your reverse mohawk, the hair adds weight 😭

[marsh prawn]

Genuinely a tree

[amber wigeon]

Bald tree

[crisp whale]

that is geniunely worse

[amber wigeon]

I know 😭

[obsidian bay]

Brotherman, you need to pack the protein and some healthy fats

[marsh prawn]

Genetics actually annihilated you bro 😭

[amber wigeon]

How

😔

[obsidian bay]

https://tenor.com/view/eat-kirby-anime-الطعام-gif-4848690

[serene radish]

Consume baby kangaroos

[marsh prawn]

If its too windy youre gonna fly away like a kite 😭

[obsidian bay]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-season-3-club-spongebob-patrick-gif-6249234498153693351

make like those two

[amber wigeon]

It’s a combination of fast metabolism and a long growth spurt

[main trail]

Hes like that one paper guy from the cartoons... forgot his name tho

[woven hamlet]

son i think i could bend you

[obsidian bay]

you better get him a harness now 😤
we are NOT losing Happie to the atmosphere

[amber wigeon]

Pls do not

[marsh prawn]

Then i can fly him like a kite

[amber wigeon]

I’ll protect you from bites and stuff i’m good

[obsidian bay]

MAybe.
But at least he would be anchored.

[serene radish]

Happie needs to drink more milk and get bulking

[woven hamlet]

symbotic relationship

[amber wigeon]

Milk might be a good one

[serene radish]

Attaching to you like venom

[obsidian bay]

speaking of bites....
throwback to the time I was trying to pick up an anole for a customer and the big male in the enclosure latched on to my thumb like he was doing something

[woven hamlet]

this is not accurate

[marsh prawn]

A think happie is genuinely an alien species

[amber wigeon]

Green or another species?

[marsh prawn]

How are you 6’2 and 120 lbs

[serene radish]

First Lego and Danny's tvs now this happie is just a parasite atp