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ikr
theyre beautiful
is a leucistic greylag rare>
and look real nice in spring creek
Is it a problem that I’ve shot 170 fallow and havnt gotten one dime
i started blasting them with a 22 and the only one i hit was a leucistic
yes
Just now?
Fallow in particular like to spit out dimes pretty often, but even considering that, 1 in 200 would still be acceptable.
ive been trolled by whitetail 3x in a row
It’s my first grind for them so my herd mgt isn’t very good rn
still do not have a diamond whitetail after playing for three years
Same lol
But I’ve played for longer
On and off
i wish the vasquez could shoot lvl 5
my mule deer herds come in like 15 bucks
and i suck so i can only take out 2 at a itme
note to self do not try duckhunting while drunk anymore
but cuz its silent, i would be able to kill mor than one
my aim is godawful
3/4 wolves, this last female is gonna make it hard for me.
Grinding is so fun
bow my friend
its hell
Nah
they still run
i dont have to kill the entire pack for their rest zone to disappear right? 3/4 wolves are dead now
even if vasquez did class 5 i know deep down ill still use my moradi 44
shoot from like 45-60m out and wait for them to calm down before you shoot another
you can take out most of the herd if your aim is good
its as soon as i shoot one the rest run
they instantly flee
Hey so I changed my mind about these not being viable for my playstyle, it's light enough to keep as a back pocket draw for small game I spook. I dig it.
i got a dime of those td
Nice!
Ayeeee lets go! glad you like it
youre not using the crossbow are you?
no
hm
Imagine not using the alexander longbow
no the crossbow is much louder
and i will always say that the rangefinder sight is cheating
its actually not that bad
excuse you
the 540 grain arrow broadhead has a little iron sight
I watched a YouTube video of a guy hunting ducks with a bow
Oops mb
thats so gangster
Imagine not using am alexander on a cape buffalo
alexander longbow ash is best
Fr
I never use bows
its obv superior
i had a little bow phase on layton
it got boring having to sneak up tho
i like the rough cause it has the flemish twist string i think is nice looking
the other ones dont have it iirc
ah
they need to give lions the same stalker mechanic tigers have
the ash is the 2nd best but i have all my material on my longbows customized anyway lol
I think it should be a little hybrid between those two mechanics, so theyre not just a tiger copy paste.
yeah fs
thats what i was thinking
maybe the males dont try as hard and just trot up on you while the females get you surrounded
i love those vids where two or more lions are in wait and a boar zooms through their area and plays chased
i love lions
hope they reskin the savanna map
unfortunately i don't feel like theres a ton of incentive for them to do so
until they do a 2nd map, and even then it'd just be the returning species
hell naw
idk i want baboons on savannah
anyone wanna play
theyd make a sick baboon
#🦌︴find-a-game is your go to for that!
so hes in a very hidden castle guarded with lots of monkeys
ya add me on discord so i can add you to a vc
G1 lion = 🔥
g1 oranguatan = 🔥
i wouldnt mind giving up maps or G1s this year for some remodels. Lots of animals who need it
🔥
it needs to be like king louie
the castle moves around so its like theres no guide to where he is
and its guarded by hella monkeys who beat your ass
all g1 lions need to look like scar
🔥🔥
I just got my first Pseudo Melanistic White Variation 2
for bengal tigers mb
im cross faded rn
but thats my 8th rare now for tigers
jealous
are you grinding them? i tried finding all my tiger drink zones but they were driving me insane
yeah ive been trying to find the best grind set up for them
and I so happened to have found 2 homesteads
so i know 2 areas of guaranteed spawn I hit those pockets then I scale the river
sweet
I can get up to 6 tigers before I have to change time again
I dont have any rares yet, but i think im too impatient to set up for one unfortunately
blind luck will have to do it
nah im telling you this set up is easy
you can even do it with 1 homestead
i did it with 1 for the longest and you only need to manage 5 lakes
I just completed placing the varient 2
i need 2 more rares and i filled the whole room
interesting
which homestead, if you dont mind sharing?
unless its different for everyone, i'm not actually 100% how they work
lakes are the same respawns for everyone
I can send you a video of where I got the info from
you just have to change up your method since it takes 10 mins for respawns now on tigers
Need zones are NOT the same player to player
does anyone know how i can join vc?
- To unlock the ability to post pictures, react, join a voice chat, and use the forums you've gotta talk A LITTLE BIT.
- To unlock the ability to embed, screenshare, change your nickname, and use gifs you've gotta talk A LOT.
- To unlock the ability to use external emoji and stickers, you've gotta talk SO MUCH.
home ranges are though arent they?
Just gotta keep talking in chat
ohh okay
The potential areas they can be are the same - ie zones can be around the same lakes, along the same rivers, etc.
But they can completely be absent from potential areas because they are elsewhere
So I am doing the 4 lake method on SRp for bears and 2 of the lakes will not spawn bear zones what do I do
are we able to talk about other games at all or just strictly hcotw
by home ranges i mean that one tiger spawns per one of these areas
But if your hitting them while their drinking time it forces them to certain lakes
okay
there is an #🦝︴off-topic chat
peach im finna blow your mind ready?
Generally others are okay, but only as long as it doesn't interrupt other conversation flow. #🦝︴off-topic is the best spot for it otherwise
home range 4 and home range 3 are one singe range
So I am doing the 4 lake method on SRp for bears and 2 of the lakes will not spawn bear zones what do I do
thats 1 whole spawn for a tiger
alrighty, sorry for asking so many questions. its been awhile since ive actively used discord
so if you aren't seeing anymore at 4 just check the ones at 3 its technically 4
Yeah as far as I know "home ranges" aren't anything official
Just best guess of a player's observations
No worries!
very good to know, i think i did check 3 actually and saw nothing so that would explain it
anyways i just got hcotw today actually
Im only saying this from my own experience i tried searching for the tiger at 4 for 12 hours straight and came to that conclusion
welcome
they always spawn at 3 as well havent seen it hit any of the closer lakes
indeed welcome
I just got it about 5 days ago
ah okay, it seems to be a very tideous game im having to get used to it
pro tip i found out cause im impatient "slow and steady wins the race" as long as you are 180 meters away from what you are tracking you can run. Once at 180 you need to walk and when you get to 130m you need to start crouching
The tiger potential areas for reference
This can actually vary depending on species but is a generally good recommendation
oh crap thats really helpful
true most predators will ignore that logic
i bought the beginner and new weapon bundle, what is the easiest way to get money to buy ammo
Shoot things
that's a lot more generous than what i was doing, my general rule was walk at 200, crouch at 150 and crawl at 100
ive done a lot of testing mainly cause im so impatient and run at everything
wanted to make sure i can be as quick as I can
alrighty sounds like a plan
if anyone wants to join me and my friend just dm me
do you have Te Awaroa?
you talking to me?
apologies no I was reffering to the new guy my bad lol
oh ok lol
If you have that reserver its best for those deer
is that a gun or map
okay ill check rq
so uh how many messages do i need to join vc i hate tabbing out lol
the te awaroa also has a nice .303 for those 4 to 8 animal types
Quite a bit even I dont have it unlocked
yeah but if he has the weapon pack he can just use the 300 and 308
holy balls, why is that required🤔
i do have the 308s just no ammo yet
Yeah best to just try and farm what you can for the time being which fallow are like a 5 i think
sorry what reserve is it?
Te Awaroa
Kids joining and saying slurs & nasty crap in vc, they just create alts if there isnt some sort of level requirement.
https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1454705304775295018 i have finally made this ive had enough of it LOL
okay i just bought it
understandable
if anyone wants to join me and my friend just dm me
-# psst #🦌︴find-a-game is the place for this
Is anyone else having issues with salzwiesen park I can’t get birds to land at all even in a layout blind so wondering if it’s a glitch
Third ever kill with my brand new cacciatore
Any input helps
Diamond stubble quail 😭
daaaaaaaamn
How do I take apart matmats multi mounts now
i think you can disassemble them in trophy manager
Only option says delete
Not hard theyre pretty common but it's funny that it was my literal first target and third kill lol
they are NOT common brodie
weird
stubble quail are one of the more difficult diamonds
Iirc quail are glitched right now
And every bird keeps fleeing right after they circle
oh thats right
glitched, not legit
i totally forgot
That will open a box to disassemble it
I feel like I've seen a bunch in the trophies channel!
yeah that would be why
On an xbone?
It's a game bug
glitched, not modded, and modding is possible on console
It's a glitch
Oh dang well then I should go now while I got the bug!
😭
Thank you
That's what a sore loser would do
Don't take advantage of a glitch to get trophies you wouldn't get otherwise 😭
or wouldnt get as much of
Oh I'm sorry where's ur diamond stubble quail
They'll respawn as normal anyway
Where's your super rare
If it ain't a modification it's fair game, the Mod Lords have blessed me bc I'm just such an awesome dude, clearly 😭
it happens to everyone
💪😔🤚
If you plant a rack like that in the ground you'll get a new reindeer next year lmao
How do I fix it?
you can't
ill find the ONE i shot
botched it on purpose, i need to continue that, they respawn with their proper scoring
Oh okay so there's kind of a fix, what is the glitch anyway, just an over pop of diamond stubbies?
nah, they changed the weight of them and it messed up the scoring
Does anyone have any tips for the Scotland red deer grind?
what
Could dead zones disappear from the game?
What does F ability do?
zero
is revontuli still really buggy
Both of those maps ironically you don't even need the whole map for, for medved, the north and the eastern river is like goated hunting territory, and on emerald obviously, the coast
.
Definitely recommend getting em all but you don't need to to get money
Zero?
Wild
Ty 💙
There's a perk where you can change the zeroing range on your weapon. ie the range where your crosshair matches where the bullet will hit
bro is there actually anything in here
zeroing most rifles set to 150 meters, first zeroing perk give syou short range zeroing or aim point like 75meters, second gives you the long range aim point like 300meters
i saw some pigs and a sambar and foudn some fox tracks but i havent seen anything resting in the deep parts of the jungles
Ty 💙, I didn't know, Im lvl 16 and only using bow skill trees so far
I still haven't figured out how to do this on Xbox even though I have the perk so I just use my dots like a peasant
think you have to activate the perk in your perk tree after mousing over or selecting the zeroing perk
How do I gain exp and lvl fast? Unlock maps and dlc maps?
just do missions and you get more xp for completing requirements for cetain trophies
questing and several dlc animals have higher return in coin, can get exp from unlocking outpost and such
depending on what bullet type they need organs and what trophy etc
zeroing helps immensely with bow skill
Love it! 💙
Is there a sanctioned save editor for fixing progression bugs
sanctioned? definitely not
No. Any kind of file manipulation is against the T&C
What mission are you stuck on?
It’s more that I am afraid to join a friend for revantuli, because of the infamous bug where if you discover the first revantuli lodge in MP you lock yourself out of the revantuli questline in singleplayer
And the other… quite numerous progression bugs revantuli has in general
Is this a silly concern?
do you have the revontuli dlc?
This is funny to me for some reason
That STILL hasn’t been fixed?
Can somone hook me up with a new dlc map?
Review the rules of the server there bud
Please do not ask other users to buy you DLC, donate, give you money, etc.
i have contributed
damn
no
they barely make it at legendary lol
ye
im just blasting them all so i just wanted to make sure i wouldnt risk anything lol
i didnt even realise im so lucky i vitaled him 😭
i looked down as i approached him and went "why is his top half lighter"
What’s in the winter pack?
While hunting whitetail on Askiy I got ambushed. by a pack of wolves. I've never been jumped by them before, I thought they only went aggressive if you shot them first.
cosmetic
The pack had both a troll and a legit diamond. 😆
not a troll
To the fallow doe who definitely lifted her head at the wrong time and took the round meant for the level 4 behind you. I’m sending you anthrax in the mail
this is such a mood
Wolves make diamond at 39, 37.98 is troll enough for me 😂
See above
troll means a max level animal that doesn't make diamond, since 8 isn't max level for wolves a level 8 wolf isn't a troll
Yeah I still need to eat my hat
still not the right terminology
Oh. But this week I got a Albino tiger so
It's not proper terminology to begin with bud it's just community lingo
Pating
i understand what u mean but using it wrong makes new players confused
exactly
Anyone able to help me with my great one red deer? Ive been hunting them for so long now and still havent seen him. I have almost 50 diamond red deer with 17 diamonds and just keep shooting. I just want him in my lodge already 😩
shoot more
The .30-06 kinda drops fallow deer
it's not?
dont get defensive now
I'm not being defensive, I'm being a troll.
you're the one whos making it a problem, you shouldn't use "lingo" in the wrong way because players will see it and get misinformation
words mean stuff different things are different
No problem here ☺️ it's really not that deep.
Anyone know good loadouts for fallow? My loadout is usually a .30-30 a .30-06 and the Air gun
no issue, u should just use the word correctly next time
im trying to help you not look foolish.. lol
I HAVE ARRIVED!
That'll pretty much cover it. A caller and scent eliminator are about all you could add to it, but Fallow are pretty easy to hunt as is.
Thanks
Eat your hat soon though
It's all a matter of perspective. Getting worked up over someone using a word differently than how you would could definitely come off as foolish too.
It’s really not
im not getting "worked up" im correcting you
It is leather. If I boil it long enough...
you're acting like the word is subjective
Troll has a specific meaning in this community that is quite literally unchangable
And I'm telling you I don't need your correction, I'm not your dog 😂
I own deer hide welding ppe. If I get another troll I’ll eat them
Or try
you could just drop it 🫦
Ladies first.
Condescension is rarely ever seen as nice.
Right?
Pineapple
Strawberry
Grapes
im stepping away
ur the man bro
glad we could agree everyone but you is in the wrong here
lmao
What is yalls favorite thing to hunt in game
anything that moves
In other news I ended up putting the .243 back on my loadout as a joke and ended up liking it. Turns out smacking deer beyond 300m without spooking their herd is worth the extra meters needed to chase them. I'm just surprised the soft point ammo holds up at these ranges.
Class 1-4, with a scant few class 5s like Mule Deer. The bigger animals tend to be uninteresting but I really like the smaller ones.
That first one has a good rack for just being a 2-minor
Right? Some of the antler spreads are sick. Look at the shape of this mule.
One of my favorite are foxes because you never know when they will book it out and then wolves because sometimes they are some Feisty mfs
That's sick
Foxes are my top choice for hunting, but their herd mechanics make them a bit of a pain to manage. I did get my most wanted fox the other day though!
i wish i could post pics but i have a rlly cool almost droptine mule deer
DM it to me and I'll post it for you
it has like 2 prongs that face down, then the rest go up
That's one pretty fox
sent
how to get back to mission? I clicked backspace and it wont come back 😭
Looks almost whimsical
Go into your menu and select Mission Log, you can select missions as active there
I've got a dime mule but it's been like 3 years since I looked at it 😆 I'll have to check it out and see what sort of spread it had.
Have yall played the new map?
Scotland?
Yes, I did a bit of Fallow, Badger and Mink hunting, it's really well done. The landscape is perfect for sniping
I watched rooster play it it looks so prefect for all around hunting
I love this game
love how many roe deer there are, you can almost walk right up to them in plain sight
they are stupid
Yeah it seems to have a bit of wildlife for everyone, and the music is even enjoyable. I usually find BGM distracting but they did a good job of it on that map.
They're the Pheasant of deer. 💀
i'm the opposite of cyclone glazer, the closer the better
thank you ❤️
A different kind of challenging, I respect it
Likewise ❤️
Im going to hop on multi-player and find out
I give you an hour before you buy it lmao
The funny thing about the .454 having performance equal to the .470 nitro express is that there IS an actual revolver cartridge that has performance like that, it’s just not .454, and it’s actually younger than this game is
should i contribute more boar?
That's 5 more than me.
god damn its not finished yet?
Do I have to kill a boar before it reaches 100 in order to get credit
you must contribute to get prize i thought
if you kill one afterwards you will still get rewards
There's a time limit.
You got 6 days champ
even if the goal is 100% before you killed one, it will still show your contribution number in green and count you as a participant
Dude I really have tried to like the cyclone, I really have
If its like i seen,I say it'll be 15 minutes before I do
the cyclone screws with me on purpose
I will say theres not much competition for #1 cyclone glazer
Like, on paper it should perform significantly better than 7.62x35 expansion rounds
And then it consistently doesn’t penetrate or even do major flesh damage
Cyclone is a challenge, and it's benefits only really compliment a specific style of play. If genociding an entire herd of Fallow from 200-300m without them spooking isn't what you're after, the downsides just aren't worth it. As a nice compromise between a standard firearm and a bow, it does great work though. Also it's Hollow-Point rounds... Idk what the devs were thinking by making them that powerful on single lung shots.
genocide gun is certainly a way to put it 😭
It's all about the angles. It will pen class 3-4 targets at 300m.
Is the pen ammo worth using?
Only if you're shooting class 4 animals and you can't get a good broadside. HP rounds have a habit of seemingly bouncing off of flesh if you hit the target at an angle, but will penetrate if you hit dead on. If the target is angled toward or away from you the penetrating rounds will get you that single lung, but if it's broadside, the HP rounds will get you that single lung while dropping it as if it were double lunged. I use the HP rounds more often than the Pen rounds.
Doesn't hurt that both of them are cheap AF.
Here's a perfect example of just how much angles can mess with HP rounds, using the .243
63m shot at just the wrong angle? Doesn't even single lung a bighorn.
Nearly 200m shot at slightly better angle? Double lung. Because why not.
What do I do if a herd has only females
leave it if ur grinding
Find another herd papi
Okay.
Because there was two level 4s in two different herds and I ate both of them and now they’re just females
you ate both of em?
he was hungry asf
I shot and ate them
the classic saying "im so hungry i could eat two mule deer"
Fallows actually
Alright that was too funny. I apologize, you were right, I was wrong, please carry on.
''im so hungry i could eat 2402 boars''
Yeah, that checks out. The main issue is that most 2-4 are so skittish that while cyclone is good on account of being silent, it’s tempting to just use a flat-shooting rifle.
Combined with the fact that I already carry two 4-9 in my current loadout
On the subject of 1-2, btw, do you think the .22 hornet can pick off flying geese easily? I just can’t lead those shots with .22LR
How to make deer pregnant so they birth diamonds?
Like seriously
Two herds full of does. Does that that mean I have to move my setup?
have u waited to see if respawns come?
How long does that take
.22h has better parabolic performance at extreme range, but I have no idea about it's velocity. I'm pretty comfortable taking geese at long range with the .22lr, I imagine the .22h and .22mag can do it as well or better.
Do you recommend the .22 mag DLC?
😭
i think i got the hang of the pointer
pen> expansion everytime
Maybe?
W
Do more bucks just come in then?
she helped me find a lot of boar
w doggy
gard damn
after you claim any animal, it takes that amount of time for it to respawn
HI HONSE
same
Oh well I’ve shot a level 4 and none have respawned. That was probably 20 minutes ago
bro i want to play the game so bad but playing on your own is so dead
boar tie
As for the Cyclone's relative silence being a niche affair, you're absolutely right. Especially for hunting something like fox, which only show up in pairs to begin with, removing the need for stealth in the first place if you are used to taking quick follow ups. What I like about the Cyclone is the ability to indiscriminately hunt alongside the .22lr.
I can shoot a turkey from 150m with the .22lr that's 20m from a whitetail and the whitetail won't spook. Likewise, I can reverse the order of the hunt and shoot the whitetail first with the .45, without spooking the turkey. The ability to, for the most part, hunt indiscriminately for multiple species without spooking peripheral targets I may not see yet, is worth the extra bit of work needed to make the Cyclone work.
All that said, if I end up nailing 200m shots consistently with the crossbow, I may change my name. So far I've only got it zeroed in for 150m max.
Not really. The mag has more ammo than the Hornet but otherwise performs similarly within 200m or so. The Hornet performs up to 400m.
W
Can you customize the crossbow scope crosshair like you can customize other scopes? If so, try mildot 2.
Except when both pen and expansion rounds both can only single-lung, in which case expansion will kill faster.
Also .45 HP pellets have ludicrous expansion (75) so they can drop class 2-3 targets as if they've been heart shot, compared to the round nose pellets.
Well it also comes with the .357 and .410
I have! That's how I got it locked in to 150m.
no, it’s been tested many times by many people, pen will always be best
hey guys can I keep the same hunter on multiple reserves or do i need to recreate for each reserve?
Ahhh, true. If you're not getting it just for the mag then yeah it may be worth the buy. I got it for the mag and was disappointed.
Same Hunter
Have you experimented with zoom levels, then? That’s what I had to do to zero the vasquez on 300m with the odin, lol
I’m probably preaching to the choir ofc but that’s all I can think
Yeah? Who tested every round?
Or maybe a punter if you can Acheive 70 yards
Is 7.62x35 flat out inferior to the .357/7.62x39?
ah do do you just create new hunters if you want to restart or is there a reason i need to?
Yup, it's an issue of arrow drop. The arrows need to be aimed so high in the range they end up smacking the overhead range structure. I may try the actual archery range though, never visited it.
Also, for the Cyclone, try the Hyperion at 7x zoom, last mil-dot on Mil-Dot 02. You'll bullseye at 300m.
No idea, I haven't compared those rounds.
Another potentially VERY good caliber for this is .45 long colt, but I can’t really decide if it’s worth my time. I like the .410 pistol despite its shortcomings
What are you trying to use these rounds for specifically?
You could always try zeroing with a spotter on practically anything, as well
True! The bows have an added challenge of wind influence as well, so the further out you go the trickier they become. But I like that about them too.
Covering class 3-6, I suppose, primarily 3-4. Also, secondarily, having a flat trajectory
Ah, okay. Have you tried the .223? I don't recall if it handles class 6 but it does have great ballistics.
yo guys do you know how much you need to chat before you can join a VC?
I’ve found that 45 colt has one of the most pronounced drops in the game, zeroing at 150m where 10g slugs zero at 250m
It’s not as bad as the vortex though and it’s penetration ammo is better, assuming it doesn’t lose everything to damage falloff
Handguns tend to have short zeroing ranges. The .22lr handgun only zeroes to 75m 😭
How do I find lots of herds? In the spots on te awaoara I’ve only been able to find a couple
A little bit
Level 90
is a lil bit
That's actually what the server says. It doesn't give a flat amount.
i ghet that but like
I`ve been messaging for a bit the last 3 days or so
You're probably close then
Oh, I meant with holdover. I really like the german ringed crosshair on the 3-7 but I messed up and put mildot 2 on it
When I had german ringed, the 45 colt would hit almost exactly 150m on the ring with 75m zero, and the 10g would hit exactly 250m on the ring with 150m zero
…. Though now that I think about it, that would imply that the 10g has more drop than the 45
am i the only one who has had the worst luck with roe deer since the update 😭
but like to me talking a lil bit is like 50 messages and I feel like i have already gone over that
It’s like 300 something
Not very much
No I’m playing it’s only a little bit
Dude I sent 21k messages in a server this year
It was the warthunder server
thats like 60 messages a day dog
Legit was a single minute. 😭
for a year thats insane
say sorry
please
also if i wanna help in the hog event do i just need to hunt wild pigs?
or do only the males count the event is very confusing to me
Yeah, so scope brand and crosshair choice can actually impact how you perceive bullet drop.
The Hyperion 4-8x and the Angler 4-8x will give you a very different experience if you swap them and try aiming the same way.
For example, the Cyclone can bullseye at 300m with a 4th Mil-Dot hold at 7x zoom, but trying the same setup with the Angler at 7x Zoom will result in your shots landing as if you were in 8x zoom with the Hyperion, due to the scopes having different diameters. It's really annoying.
Thankfully 8x zoom with Hyperion and 8x Zoom with Argus is essentially identical.
Only Wild Boar count - not the feral pigs or wild hogs
which maps conteinm wild boar?
How do you tell your zoom level? I literally just count the clicks from minimum and don’t even know what zoom I’m on
Cuatro, Hirsh, Medved, and Torr
That's how. 4-8x scopes zoom 1x per adjustment and the 8-16x zooms 2x per adjustment!
What about the 4-12?
Haven't used it, but I'd assume it's also 2x per adjustment
One of the most OP DLC (in this case, OP meaning ‘enables you to skip the grind’) is the scopes DLC
The 4-12 is nice but the 3-7 pistol/shotgun scope is absolutely despicable, the sundberg goes from borderline useless to an absolute machine
Honestly I’m really thinking of just making an all classes loadout and just traveling along askiy ridges river and shooting everything
My universal loadout is not for everyone. 😆
Cannot fathom why the zarza is there
I’d rather use the .22lr pistol or the other 22
Exactly
I don’t have the 10g or the pistol
Oh make no mistake, .22s are great
That one specifically is the worst .22
It's actually got better performance than the Virant, at the cost of a smaller mag. Aim small, miss small, no need for 5 more rounds.
I’m listening—in what capacity is it superior?
Yeah, that’s the real thing is that 1.5 weight savings is very hard to argue with
The only benefit to the Virant is more mag capacity. If I found myself in need of a 10rd mag I'd swap, because the Virant looks better, but the Zarza has better recoil which makes a different when shooting birds in flight at long range. I said it earlier, there is an argument to be made that extra rounds makes up for recoil, but I'm not a fan of bullet spam. If I don't get my targets in 5 rounds I don't deserve to get them at all.
It also has better reload but that's irrelevant to me specifically.
And finally, though I'm fairly certain it's just placebo, the Zarza sounds quieter. I don't think it actually is, but I prefer it's acoustics.
Its has grown on me tonight.
On the flip side, and don’t read this if you’re OCD, ||the zarza has the wrong bolt group and action for its caliber and is a .223 AR, not a .22 AR||
And that bothers me for some unknowable reason
And also, I prefer pistol xp/1.5 weight savings
The problem with the defender is it's inability to target small game beyond 300m. I hunt almost exclusively long range, so I only really use the defender when I spook a bird while walking to retrieve Harvests.
I will NEVER use a 22lr at 300 meters
Ong that’s crazy
I found this beauty before I got off to go to sleep
How does the defender differ from the virant in that capacity
It's max zero is 75m, half that of .22lr rifles. This makes It's parabolics a nightmare beyond 250m.
Did you throw the arrow at it?
If I have to use a 22lr beyond 100 meters I’m doing something wrong but it’s just me
im really good at darts
Honestly shooting wood ducks with a bow? Respectable.
Also the drilling rifle is amazing at crocodiles
i do have a shotgun with me but she was coming in real early so i figured why not
Hey im new to the discord but i have been watching him for few years now
I suppose that checks out, but it’s not actually a worse trajectory, just shifted down a couple degrees, right?
I totally get why that matters for distance shooting still
Watching who…?
i have mallard hunted with a bow before if that counts for anything
BTW, does using a ‘harder’ weapon award more weapon score and potentially XP?
I'm not positive if the ballistics itself are different or not. Some rifles with the same calibers, like the .300 Arzyna and Canning, have different parabolics. It's possible the Defender does too, though I'm not sure. Taking shots beyond 300m with a .22lr rifle requires significant adjustment, and with the handgun you'd need to aim so high the target isn't in scope anymore. What's worse, using zoom to adjust perspective doesn't help, you end up uncomfortably high or low.
The gold defender looks good
Why I use it.
I really wish we had some hard numbers on these things, idk why so much is in the dark
Not to my knowledge. As far as I know weapon score is largely determined by whether the wep you use is within it's effective range, and ethical. I just like a bit of challenge.
Rn I have the defender, 22-250 a 4-8 and the canning in my loadout. Anything I should change?
Does the weapon need to be within or without its effective range to get more score?
The 4-8 is the eckers
Genuinely consider bringing the .454, even with hollow points it is despicable
Same beast afaik
Could just put a new skin on it
Fair point
Best way to get the rhino is through the sundberg tbh
Failing that, the .45 revolvers are quite good
Look at the weapon scores for my .45 kills. Range and shot placement are nearly identical, but the class 3 was dropped almost instantly and resulted in a better score. It was shot with HP, while the Fallow was shot with Pen, which likely had something to do with it, or it could have been because it was class 3 vs 4. I have absolutely no idea and have never concerned myself with it, but thanks a lot, I'm gonna have to look into it now.
It doesn’t really work like that, it still has the texture unfortunately
Aight
45 looks good
im bouta buy the game should i just get the bundle with all the dlc's since its cheap ?
Probably
Pick up askiy ridge too if it’s not in the bundle
I got 68 weapon score on a .454 shot today that I really don’t think was deserved
Also I am interested in XP rates and whether or not they are related
Yeah but depending on the skin it can hide it well
Also wish they would do engraved skins
There’s a bunch, wdym
Oh you mean like wraps
Yeah that I can put on any gun
Eventually you’ll upgrade to .44 anyway, but there’s literally no reason to do so until you unlock the high penetration .44 ammo
Especially engraved metals
There’s also the glock, 10mm is EXTREMELY good but it’s got awful sights unfortunately. I wish we could put some manner of proper scope on it
Wait
There’s no scope mount on the 45
Disgraceful
It depends which .45, there’s two
The 410?
Yeah, that has a scope and is a good gun
Payday 2 mor important than real life
Unlike in game, irl the gimmick doesn’t work at all and it ends up being bad at being both a revolver and a shotgun
Thank you for making me aware of this beast
Oh.
Cool to have anyways
Using the gold one to match the 22lr
The Single Action Army is a good gun too, but in the context of this game it’s only good as a self defense weapon or a challenge weapon when compared to the judge
No ironsights, 5 shots, very long reload
I use the Glock for self defense
Or in this case the judge
Any gray wolfs tryna fight in a Waffle House boutta get it
The glock IS better but it’s not really necessary to have both regardless
10mm auto is a fantastic wildlife caliber in game and irl
I didn’t think it was big enough for wolves
Checked the ammo and was astonished
Okay I see now why some folks think the .243 sucks even with polymer. Broadside lung shots with the soft rounds drop deer somewhat quickly, but this bastard ran almost a kilometer after taking a Polymer round on a single lung.
.45 colt hollow points are incredibly good as far as hollow points go, and the pen bullets are ok
Well I’ll be using it whilst I rampage the river beds of askiy ridge
That’ll get rid of my pressure on my mulie spots
I will say that .454 is flat out superior and .45 is really only useful for the pen ammo, regardless
.454 is INCREDIBLY cheap and it’s got a very flat trajectory amongst the pistols
Oh yeah definitely, it’s a great shotgun. 410 works 90% of the time, you have 6 shots, a very fast reload, no recoil and high rate of fire
It has a tighter choke than other shotguns and less shot, so it requires a decent degree of skill to utilize vs anything but rabbits
And salzweisen was my 2nd map so you know I got some shotgun expierence
Can you put 410 in the Drillimg rifle?
No, it’s already got 16ga which is explicitly better
Do you get shotgun score from using the rifle ammo on the driller?
If you want to ramp up your handgun score confortably, run the .45-70 Jernberg Superior with a scope and treat it like a rifle. Will drop moose at 300m, and zeroes out to 200m. Very good handgun. Can take all modern rifle scopes.
Don’t have it
I’m still pissed that that fallow trolled
Also
Is the .577/450 bigger than a 50 cal?
I know a 50 cal is 12.7
With all combination weapons you get score according to the ammo used
Drilling gives rifle score with the rifle and shotgun with the shotgun
The Judge gives shotgun with .410 and pistol with .45
This is only for combo weapons though, .44 lever action gives rifle score despite using pistol ammo and the jernberg gives pistol score while using rifle ammo
Yes, and it’s significantly more powerful than most .50 cal black powder muzzleloaders. It even holds its own when compared to some modern smokeless calibers, which is unusual for a black powder cartridge.
It is a very good cartridge all things considered, but massively overperforms in game because of balance reasons.
Anyone else's fast travel not working on ps5?
i had so many ducks at my feet my game shut down
there were probably rares and dims in that pile
Consecutive harvest doesn’t exist anymore right
it does but you don’t need it to have the right medal score
like you can shoot a level 5 moose with the 270 and it’ll still be a diamond
What does it influence then? XP/cash payout?
Pronghorn with trad arrows will have you following a blood trail the vertical length of Pangea
pretty sure it only influences xp and session score
maybe cash too not sure on that
Vital blood, still tracked for 500m
Damn so it definitely is important, I need XP
How do I even check my consecutive harvest stuff?
if you’re on console go to the little like menu thing that shows what diamond gold silver and bronze are then go down one if you’re on pc just go to the xp and it should drop a menu for it
Honestly
You’re right
Cheap round that has insane pen and expansion?
Water bungalows hate to see me coming
Yes and they certainly will see you coming because, without a scope, you’ll probably be getting closer than usual
What is do is run up to them spook them and slowly gain on them whilst chasing them and then shoot once at 50 meters
Tbh a scope is not terribly necessary, but you need the zoomed breath perk to be remotely precise at range. The gun has an absurdly flat trajectory and holds to out to 450m on a 250m zero with minimal adjustment.
I don’t think it will kill anything particularly quickly at that range, still uncertain about how damage falloff works, but at point blank it will drop a cape buffalo without complaint.
Used it on whitetail before
Using it on a whitetail is like killing an ant with a thrown brick
I wish that .375 had better performance tbh
The penetration is there certainly but the expansion sucks, and the expansion ammo is just awful so far as I can tell
That’s the uhhhh
One rounds
What?
The .375 H&H is largely considered to be the single best hunting cartridge, ever
I like 6.5mm creedmoor
6.5 is fine, the difference between the two is that .375 will kill an elephant but also functions well as a deer round
Why 7MM exists
6.5 may well kill an elephant too depending on its sectional density but not ethically
.577/450 is what I’d use for elephantes
It would be completely inappropriate and not remotely capable of the task, tbh, unless you shot it in the eye
It’s a very elderly round with an obsolete propulsion system, and in this game diameter works against you if you don’t have enough power
Ehhhhhhhhhh
By ‘this game’ I mean terminal ballistics not CotW
Regardless the .375 H&H in game is probably underrepresented
I will say their choice of the Kimber Caprivi to represent the caliber is extremely tasteful though, it’s an excellent gun
Left is the real-life kimber, right is the vallgarda
I don’t have that pack
I… probably wouldn’t recommend it
The .375 is a VERY good gun, despite its lack of expansion, and I also really like the .300 though it’s potentially obsolete compared to the other guns out there atm
I have too many bolt action rifles now
The eckers is absolutely beautiful
The elegance one
The one really exceptional feature of the .375 is that it has true-to-life express sights
Show
I’m afraid I can’t at the moment, but it’s a three-leaf express, same as you’d fine on any .375 rifle straight from the factory.
I don’t have one
On a topic that I actually really love
If you could live in one outpost on a map which would it be?
black bear model is heavenly compared to the other two
I think it was recently updated or something
I dont remember hearing anything about that but it does look like it got a bit of a touch up
brown bear still look decent, grizzly....
well.
There are too many to choose tbh
The log cabins on askiy are cozey
do i have to live on the map too or is the outpost completely isolated
hmm
there's this one in the northeast area of sundarpatan i like a lot
let me see if i can find my pics of it
Salzweisen has a 20 million dollar mansion
Fair point
maybe, i'd have to see the interior
it also might not actually be the outpost building itself but one next to it
The lodge on askiy tho….
I actually think maybe the strategy to making money and xp quickly is to use the largest and most deadly caliber the game will permit for any given prey
okay i was right it's not actually the outpost building, but the sherpa gaun tea house
Because of the consecutive harvest thingg
Sundarpatan doesn’t have much going for it in housing
Woah
Where is that
Cuatro has a nice Tuscany style outpost around where you spawn that’s actually really nice
one of the buildings surrounding this outpost here
I’ll visit sometime
its not as far east as i thought
I’m love comfy cozy outposts
this is the exterior
Askiy has some really good ones
Te awaoara has one where the fallow deer zones are that is pretty nice
actual lodging isn't terrible either but the tea house is super cozy
yeahh the ones on askiy with the loft bedrooms are pretty cool
Truth
i would also live on askiy in a heartbeat
That and a pet mule deer
gorgeous map, i love winter
It’s the closest map to where I live
Michigan babyy
Askiy is probably my favorite
I’m a big deer fan
Mule deer and red deer are my favorites
it is mine by a long shot, i was genuinely in heaven on release day
incredible vibes
plus all the remodels.. sheeesh
i really appreciate the remodels alongside map reworks these days
What else could you ask for
pronghorn and waterfowl? oh wait
yeah, assuming wolves behave the way they do irl and not the way they do in game lol
Couldn’t pay me too
oh hell no
It feels like every 20 minutes I’m being attacked by a tiger or a water bungalow
Salzweisen
oh true LOL
Raccoon dogs will be the most of your worries
i was gonna say watch out for canada geese but salz doesnt have canadas
badgers
i also feel like i cant have a discussion about living in an outpost without mentioning the main outpost on rancho
lmaoo
lol, understandably
i used to like it a lot but its fallen out of my graces a little
i'll take some pics real quick
yeahh
HEAR me out though.
if only mountain lions behaved right it could be improved quite a bit tbh
A map on Svalbard would be amazing
I went on a guided hunt on srp with a friend and we shot it and didn’t hit anything and we tracked it for like 2 miles
A mountain lion
Sorry
what bothers me is their spooking mechanic
it would be fine if there were only a few of them like with tigers but they are eeeeeeeverywhere
Yeah
A Svalbard map would be amazing
A super remote map literally at the edge of the earth
Svalbard could have moose, polar bears, musk ox, reindeer, arctic fox and lynx and lemming
i think the architecture is cool
It would be an instant buy
honestly i'd be down for anything that'd give me polar bears and arctic fox
i've kinda given up on dall sheep at this point </3
Hold on let me pitch my idea
how about sea ducks?
they have eider there i think
and long-tailed duck
and red breasted goose, apparently
i have never heard of these until now
Yeah. Some fowl could be nice
It’s literally in the middle of nowhere, snow storms and auroras could be cool. Lemming, lynx, arctic foxes polar bears, the fowl you mentioned, reindeer, And moose.
Heyyyy everyone 🙂
like hello
I would be awesome to hunt though
i like the landscapes!
Canada goose aswell?
I just coming back to COTW, what dlc should i get? Anyone can help?
Askiy
askiy ridge 
Yeah
hell yes
What animals are on there?
Ooh alright
Elk
Blackbeard
is it nice and open area? Like easy to hunt?
in some areas, it's quite thick in others
But it’s good for bigger game
but it has lots of open clearings
Glacier valleys on Svalbard could go incredibly hard
I want a map, that has various differant types of animals, this one has it? Like manny differant animals?
oh yes
Yeah
Alright
Yeahhhhh
lots of animals, at least one of each class
tyyyy
Moose aswell
Ooohhh i love hunting moose
Mule deer are super easy to hunt because of how close the lakes for need zones are
i feel like they could go either way with a map like this, have it be either svalbard or nunavut
And good weapon dlc? Something fun to use, but really powerfull. Im probably going to be playing solo most of the time, so i want something super fun, but not too hard to use
YES
pretty similar concept either way but im kind of partial to nunavut tbh
I like Svalbard because of its incredible remoteness
That’s why I’m biased
Either way polar bears could be such an amazing concept
?
Oop sorry
that's why i like nunavut too ! how people still manage settlements up there is incredible
I think everyone was too quick to condemn the 7.62x35 bolt action
It’s got a lot going for it. Low weight, top of the class accuracy, hipfire, and capacity and a fast, flat trajectory
the hunter's choice pack has the vallgarda 375 which is super strong and fun
it'd be good for moose and bison if you bought askiy
But the scope pack is necessary for any
You CANT go wrong with askiy
thats the fors right?
No problem
Scope pack activates the sundberg and makes it a 2 pound 200m death machine
Yeah
I like the judge
I got my 410 rounds for it
it's alrightt, the weight i do like, but i wish we got something that could go down to class 2
i don't get a ton of use out of it
The 410 / 45
it's not nearly as bad as people make it out to be, that i agree with
Technically 1-5 if you use the judge 410 rounds
The judge is a genuine contender for best shotgun, especially when you’re going after quail or something where you don’t need a whole shotgun and want a little diversity
Does this server have a lfg section? To find people to play with?
257 is the gun of my dreams
ty
Perhaps
No problem
Honestly just because of how good it feels to have so much options and so little guns
I might have to make a loadout with the judge and the drilling rifle
anyway nunavut is so vast and empty, almost nothing up there but little native communities
Yes.
Seal clubbing though…
i aint say i wanted that in game LOL
Poor baby seals
a lot of people are attached to the idea of hunting seals in this game, gun or not, i don't really see it but to each their own i guess
same goes for the big 5 in africa, i just don't care that much
Like what else could we expect
barren ground caribou, yes
The thing is people keep comparing it with the frost .257 and the quist reaper, both of which are slightly stronger guns with better rates of fire, and the reaper has SILLY ammo prices
But the frost has awful accuracy, and the reaper is a pound heavier, and both have smaller magazines
and there are moose
