#Dishcarge skill and Sorcerer specializations

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spring orchid
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All sorcerer subclasses are each bound to own element. And then you have discharge, which can be converted by skill orbs. So if you want to play with fire or cold spec, you are tied to specific skill orb for run start, removing other possible choices, and there is a lot of good stuff on sorc. So you are either giving everything in hands of RNG gods, praying for luck if you start with fire/cold conversion and not choosing mana/health on crit, or you can just build lightning and not care that much. And that's a thing you cannot simply chose mid-run, like "oh, nice, i got fire conversion orb, lets do fire this time". You are preparing for specific element by choosing subclass, gear bonuses, drink bonus for specific element.
I'm not sure what's the best possible solution here would be, but i just had a thought: how about tying conversion for discharge (including bonuses: chain for lightning, pierce for fire, lesser cone for cold) to subclass choice instead of skill orbs?

hearty lynx
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To be honest i have a different issue. Fire and cold discharge have like no unique passives at all

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I think cold ray literally only gets range up.

spring orchid
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@hearty lynx Range upgrade is available to all types of discharge. And pierce on fire conversion is very nice for clear, i used fire discharge early and it carried me to lvl 20 easily. It just requires much more luck for runs to get all other upgrades needed, especially mana on crit for mana sustain.

hearty lynx
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i think its fine. I didnt struggle with sustain at all even as i combo elemental orb with affinity conversion

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Is your actives higher than lv2?

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I keep mine at lv2.

spring orchid
hearty lynx
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Overleveling your actives is a trap you can run into

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Weaponchoice matters too

spring orchid
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I'm not using elemental orb, it would make getting right upgrades even harder than it is now.

hearty lynx
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Elemental orb is strong before subclassing

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Specced out of it now though

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But be mindful of element + weapon pairing.

spring orchid
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And i used lvl 2 discharge for some time, yep, but now it's level 4 with -mana cost on boots and as a starting blessing.

hearty lynx
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Frost ray is high 1target so your weapon wants crowd clear.
Lightning is the opposite

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I think you want staff for lightning and frost

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Lightning rmb and frost lmb + rmb

spring orchid
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I have like 30% crit or so at run start.

hearty lynx
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I got to boss 6 with a lv1 sorc using frost and staff

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Let me be the one to tell you no shield is perfectly okay

spring orchid
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I got it in a single run with fire discharge from level 1 🙂

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With a crap gear since it was my first caster.

hearty lynx
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I had decent gear. 50 ice pen

spring orchid
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Beat Avatar with a power of fire discharge and skill upgrades 😄

hearty lynx
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But yeah uh. My idsue with discharge usnt being forced to pick element convert.
Its that only lightning gets 2 upgradable passives