final depot
Then you can just hard carry people with endless deaths. with the instant revive architect you can spam them alive.
The entire point of the system is that everyone has to work together. this system is balanced. The old system you would link to that player if you revive, and if either of you die the other one dies too.
I enjoy this better.
neon plank
Then you can just hard carry people with endless deaths. with the instant revive...
you can always carry someone you can literally just let them stand at the entrance while you kill all the monsters
the only thing this would do is make it more enjoyable to actually work together
final depot
Just tell your friends to not die.
neon plank
Well if worst comes to worst i will just have to mod it in myselfe
neon plank
Just tell your friends to not die.
the issue is that the best option right now is to just leave your friend there and not take the penalty and thats very dumb
frozen harbor
What is the penalty?
robust river
What is the penalty?
something like 10% reduction to your max HP for the rest of the run. I've gotten down to having only about 20% of my health pool left
frozen harbor
Thanks for the clarification 😊 10% sounds like acceptable punishment... But if your down to 20% that's a whole other story 😅
robust river
I think the revive debuff is pretty fair (if your party is dying multiple times it kind of needs to be run-ending) but if its leading to people refusing to revive in MP then maybe something needs to be done about it
mint comet
The reviver sacrifices their life force to bring back a teammate. Which cannot get it's full strength back since they also lost life force.
ornate nymph
I liked the old system of the lives where they bind their lives together. It’s a huge punishment if you do something dumb
neon plank
The reviver sacrifices their life force to bring back a teammate. Which cannot g...
i know how this mechanic works i just clarivied that this specific mechanic leads to basically people beeng discouraged to revive a person thats not that good in a game its also the best thing you can do especially if you are a class like warlock that kinda requires a lot of health to basically function
where glasscannons basically dont even care if they only have like 1 hp left
final depot
i know how this mechanic works i just clarivied that this specific mechanic lead...
if youre a piece of garbage and dont wanna pick your friend up, then just go play solo.
barren viper
Then you can just hard carry people with endless deaths. with the instant revive...
At the moment its a system setup in a way to where i just dont want to revive the bad player and leave them out since i get punished too with no way to fix it.
HoH 1 had a similar problem where if someone was bad and needed to be revived, you wouldnt wanna revive them cause you also were punished
neon plank
if youre a piece of garbage and dont wanna pick your friend up, then just go pla...
its not about beeng a prick its about this system encouraging not to do it
final depot
its not about beeng a prick its about this system encouraging not to do it
the system needs to have players work together. Teach your friends. I have a handful in my group brand new to this style of game and die constantly. its just something you have to deal with but to constantly revive them over and over because you can for free doesnt help them understand the impact of the run, and allows you to just hard carry in every way.
The run ending because they made YOU sacrifice lots of your HP too, is a good way for them to understand it impacts. i had to explain to my friends that I am also losing HP, and they all understood and stayed far safer. talk to your group. its a good system.
neon plank
the system needs to have players work together. Teach your friends. I have a han...
yeah but the system is setup that the best option to interact with this exact system is to not work together at all
and whats happening is that simply the good players kill everything while the bad players dont even try to do anything because them dying means less health for there group
It also disproportionally punishes specific classes that rely on high hp like warlock or most melee classes
while beeng a glass canon barely does anything
the best thing you can do is get yourselfe a long range glass canon spec everything in damage or mana relevant things delete everything from a distance
if you die a friend revives you
you are oneshot anyways so it doesnt even matter to you
final depot
Probably just add an architect option that allows it to turn off for the bad players that struggle with the mechanic