mac-bugs-discussion

[hard fog]

Known issues:

• Cloud saves isn't enabled due to the iCloud only having 5Gb of free storage space. and Valheim will use up all that very quickly.
• Finding Valheim in the appstore require the user to manually switch the Apps from the default is "iphone and ipad apps". To "mac apps" instead

Edit:

Sadly the Valheim.app is a iOS thing where the correct spelling should be valheim.app.
Rename it manually and it will keep on working.

[earnest sky]

The game is not responding when I try to play it through Steam on my Mac

[upper storm]

one of my friends cant boot the game through steam on Mac, and reddit cant provide a solution

[earnest sky]

Try updating mac, I just updated mine and it's working now

[agile tundra]

First of all: I have been looking forward to a macOS releas forever! Yay! 😄

However: Steam cloud sync is stuck for ages on "Checking...", just to end up on "Steam Cloud is out of sync". Not sure if this is related to files being present in the Steam Cloud from "way back". Where the folder is defined as "WinAppDataLocalLow" and the file name is along the lines of "IronGate/Valheim/worlds/world.db.old"?

When I hover the label in the Steam UI I see the toltip "Changes from Steam Cloud have not yet been downloaded to this device".

[solemn cypress]

Can you check what error is written in cloud_log.txt? (file should be in Steam\logs)

[agile tundra]

A lot of rows containing items similar to [2024-06-11 08:51:01] [AppID 892970] Unable to resolve path with root WinAppDataLocalLow (12) and [2024-06-11 08:51:01] [AppID 892970] Skipping download of file IronGate/Valheim/characters/test.fch to our platform, failed to resolve path - these are the same type of paths/filenames I referred to in my initial message.

[final shuttle]

Do you have Steam installed on other devices?
If yes, turn on all devices and let steam connect to the server. It is supposed to solve this problem.
I'm going to try it too.

[manic parcel]

Boot the game at all, or is it trying to generate a world?

[latent epoch]

Anyone else having an issue with naming pins in the map? If the name I want to use has the letter P in it, it stops me entering the name and just PINGs on the map instead.

Icon could also use some work, seems the transparency isn't working.

[normal hornet]

Hows it playing on the mac guys

[cyan glacier]

I'm trying, but no luck so far...
Unable to connect to any server tried:

• Local Dedicated Server
• Hosted Dedicated Server
• No community server is shown at all in the list.

It looks like I need to disable crossplay but I don't see any options to do so.

[normal hornet]

Have u tryed single player at all

[cyan glacier]

Single player works well as far as I test it...

I tried the Apple Store version, no Steam Installed at all... and it works well single player.

Macbook Air M3 (15")

[normal hornet]

Playing with friends is always better

[manic parcel]

Oh crap, that's totally a bug xD thanks for reporting it

[manic parcel]

Will look into it! You can't disable crossplay on the AppStore version. The concept of "crossplay" is only a thing on Steam, because there you have two versions of connecting Steam and Playfab (crossplay compatible). Non-steam versions of the game only have one type of online (playfab).

[latent epoch]

No worries... only a couple of hours of playing so far... but loving the performance! Great job!

[latent epoch]

FWIW, I'm currently running the Steam version, but can switch to the App Store version if you need confirmation there too.

[manic parcel]

I've checked on the App Store version, happens there too.

[cyan glacier]

I have owned the Steam version since beta and played it for years...(via GeForce Now) took a long break waiting for Ashland.
Now I paid again for the App Store version because I don't even have Steam Installed, you are telling me that I can't play my App Store version with a dedicated hosted server or my local hosted server?

[manic parcel]

Oh you should be able to! I've tried it and it works for me. If it doesn't for you for some reason, it's a bug, and we'll look into fixing it ASAP.

[cyan glacier]

I can send you my logs.

[manic parcel]

Yes that would be great, thank you!

[upper storm]

Crashed after launching but before the game loaded

[final shuttle]

Please, what should I set on the (dedicate) server?
I would like to play a game with friends who play via steam.
I like the possibility of playing through the AppStore, without steam.
How should I proceed?

[manic parcel]

In the Valheim.app package downloaded from App Store, you can navigate down to Contents->Resources->Server. There you will find a file called start_server.command. If you double click it, it will start a dedicated server.
Important note: There is currently a bug with this on Ipv6 networks - in the text logs when you start it, where it says "Session "My server" with join code 012345 and IP xx.xx.xx.xx...", if the IP address there is listed as an ipv6 address, non mac versions of the game won't be able to join it at all. So make sure it's in a ipv4 format!

[latent epoch]

Is there an issue with trying to install both the Steam version and the App Store version? Tried several times to install the App Store version now but it just keeps failing at the end. Appears to download ok, so maybe failing during the move to /Applications ?

[manic parcel]

Steam doesn't install into Applications, so you can install both (I've done so on my Mac). However, I've noticed that if you have some version of Valheim installed via App Store that isn't located in the default /Applications (or test flight, copied over to some other location) the install will just silently fail, perhaps detecting that another MAS version of Valheim exists in an unexpected place. When this happened to me, I just removed a rogue Valheim.app that was in my desktop folder (originally distributed via App Store but manually moved). Then I could install via App Store. Is that the case for you?

[vocal plinth]

Anyone else having problems with Valheim public test on Mac doesn't install any files?

It's empty and no files are installed

Through steam

[manic parcel]

There is nothing uploaded to the public test branch on Mac at the moment. The PTB currently contains version 0.218.16, which was uploaded to steam before Mac was released. As such, the PTB is only available for Linux and Windows right now.

[final shuttle]

is there ever a PTB for macos planned?

[manic parcel]

Oh yeah, next time a ptb arrives it will be for macos as well 🙂

[latent epoch]

Ok, so when I installed via Steam, it created a desktop shortcut called Valheim.app and from somewhere I've got a Valheim.app with a Steam icon in my ~/Applications/ folder. I've removed both of those and tried to install again, but no luck. I can see there is also a Valheim.app within ~/Library/Application\ Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Valheim/ and I've tried to install from App Store with that in place, and with that renamed... but it just gets to the end of the download, and then fails. Very weird.

[latent epoch]

I've just uninstalled the Steam version, and trying to download again.

Thankfully Valheim is not a bloated install like CoD or something ☺️

[manic parcel]

That's really weird! Do let me know if it works for you when the steam version is uninstalled... In the meantime I'll ask around internally.

[latent epoch]

Ok, so uninstalling via the Steam UI seems to have resolved that. It installed from the App Store first try.

[final shuttle]

Heh, I have such a delicate question. 🤦 LOL
Do you think it is possible to run mods on MacOS as well?
For example ValheimPlus?

[chilly burrow]

It should be, bepinex supports Mac

[hard fog]

probably when the mod maker have ajusted it for MacOs

[final shuttle]

YES, bepinex started on MacOS:

https://docs.bepinex.dev/v5.4.16/articles/user_guide/installation/index.html?tabs=tabid-nix#where-to-download-bepinex

https://gist.github.com/allquixotic/0530bde2247415a676288e8f62592a4d

[bleak aspen]

Anybody was able to use on controller?
Doesnt work for me, controller enabled on steam and everything, connected via bluetooth before loading the game

Controller works fine in big picture mode

[lilac sedge]

Firstly: Thank you devs for an amazing Mac port! I've been waiting for this for a long time!

The game runs very well for me, there's just two little issues that I've noticed so far:

• I've got the game installed through steam, every time I start it, the graphic settings reset (this doesn't happen in other games on the same machine) The resolution, FPS cap and VSync settings stays, the rest within the tab resets to 'Performance mode'

• There's an issue with old saves in Steam Cloud as previously mentioned - not major as the new saves still seem to sync fine from my testing.

[manic parcel]

What controller are you trying to use?

[manic parcel]

Thanks for reporting these issues! They've been found by others as well so seems like fairly common issues. We are investigating them 🙂

[latent epoch]

A quick question about joining servers... I've got a local server running on my NAS that is using the lloesche/valheim-server docker image and therefore pulling the server components down from Steam, I can join this fine from the Steam version of the game but the App Store version won't see it at all. Are there any changes required to allow the App Store version to connect? Apologies if I've missed some documentation somewhere.

[manic parcel]

First and foremost, is the Steam server running with the "-crossplay" argument?

[latent epoch]

Hmm, ok... added -crossplay as a server variable and restarted... I still can't join by my local IP address but I can use the 6-digit invite code. Perhaps that's a feature? Not familiar with Playfab.

[hard fog]

you can't use local IP's with playfab no

playfab is servers going out from your local network and then back to a server with a invite code

[latent epoch]

Cool, thanks @hard fog ... I see it's an MS thing, so I'll yeet it and continue using Steam ☺️ Bought the game again via the App Store though, so hopefully tipping the metrics and showing support for your Apple port.

[hard fog]

it's works just fine tho 🤔

[brave gust]

hey all of you Valheim Lovers ! i bought the Game again and its running very good on my mac studio ! now i woud like to copy my old seeds into it. steam cloud still doesnt connect. that woud be to easy right 😉 . i woud like to continue my Play from befor but on my mac. thats my dream 😉 THX for any Help ! ❤️

[hard fog]

do you have the game both on applestore and steam?

[brave gust]

yes, sry didnt see it befor

iam off to work @hard fog ! if u are the one i woud be so thankful ! thank you for ure help ! ❤️

[hard fog]

just poke me when your available

[brave gust]

tom i got more time for it if u like ! thx 👍

[hard fog]

no problem for me to connect to my local dedicated server when I use the crossplay code

as intended as I would say

[warm panther]

Does anyone know if the Dedicated Server will come to Mac? I can start a server in-game and Steam will let me download the server it but it won't run it (The only option is uninstall). I currently have my dedicated server running on my mac-mini using crossover but I would love if it was native.

[manic parcel]

It's already there! If you right click the dedicated server in steam and select "browse local files" there will be an option to run the "start_server.command" which will spin up a dedicated server for you. I'll see if I can figure out why it just says "uninstall" instead of "play".

[loud tartan]

I just downloaded the mac version but steam always fails because of the steam cloud sync. Anyone has a fix for that?

[manic parcel]

Would it be possible for you send your cloud_log.txt file (or dm it to me)? It's usually located in /your_username/Library/Application Support/Steam/logs/cloud_log.txt.

[modest badger]

Every time I try to download the game on steam on my mac it is telling me that it is zero bytes. All it does when I install is create an empty valheim folder at ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Valheim. I have tried just about everything (clearing cache, deleting steam and steam all steam folders, restarting my computer, etc.) but it still isn't working. Anyone have any idea what is going on. I have been trying to fix this for an excessive amount of time.

[manic parcel]

Are you perhaps on a Beta branch in steam? The game is not available on the PTB branch on Mac at the moment, for instance.

[modest badger]

Oh that might be it. How do I check that?

[manic parcel]

Right click valheim in steam, select properties, then betas. In the drop down field, it should say "None"

[modest badger]

Oh ya I was on the PTB branch 🤦‍♂️

I had played the on the PTB using a workaround before the official mac valheim release

[manic parcel]

That's probably it then! 🙂

[modest badger]

Thanks a ton for your help I was going crazy

[manic parcel]

No worries, happy to help!

[modest badger]

I loaded up the game but I am always running unless I press shift and then I walk

Okay nevermind restarting the game fixed it

[warm panther]

Also, are the server files supposed to just be spread out in ~/Library/Application Support ? The words_local, permittedlist.txt, admin etc are just in Application Support and not in their own folder.

[manic parcel]

Hm, no that sounds incorrect! They're supposed to end up in Application Support/IronGate/Valheim.

[latent epoch]

Mine are in ~/Library/Application Support/com.coffeestain.valheim/

[manic parcel]

We should probably unify those paths so that they're the same no matter if you're on App Store on Steam

[atomic scarab]

Hello, I'm playing Valheim on Mac. First of all thank you for support this community and bringing your game on Mac. Valheim is incredible game. I want to report one bug for better user experiences on Mac. Yesterday on Valheim, I couldn't make pings because on mac we don't have middle mouse button natively. Today that button changed to P. It's nice touch but now we have another issue. I can't write any location on map with letter P. Everytime I press it. It's immeditaly ping that point. So once write someting on map with P that button should be write P. Without just make ping on map. So that's the bug or issue I deal today.

And another issue is on Mac Steam, since day 1 release Valheim never upload the files to Steam Cloud. It always got error. So this 2 thing is the bug or issue, I effected from.

[sweet elbow]

Hey Vikings! My friend borrowed another friends account on steam so he could try the game on Mac. Singleplayer runs well, but we can't connect to each other. It says "Failed to connect", doesn't matter if I'm the host and he's joining or vice versa. We had crossplay enabled, tried Direct Connect with code but couldn't make it work. My other friends with Windows were online throughout the whole thing, so it's only a Mac issue.

[hard fog]

do you try to connect with playfab on and trying in a IP address?

[hard fog]

yes. known issue with P

[sweet elbow]

Haven't tried anything with playfab, because we always used simple server hosting in the servers menu. Is there a link where I could learn more about it?

[hard fog]

it's in game when you pick the options

[trail dagger]

Just received a message from the devs via Reddit that they’re working on it 🤗

https://www.reddit.com/r/valheim/s/gGZZgtbUNt

[sweet elbow]

Yeah I haven't tried Community server yet but will do, and I'll report back! Thank you kindly!

[manic parcel]

Just to be clear when talking about playfab and crossplay, those are the same thing 🙂 playfab is the service we use to enable crossplay. If said mac-user friend is on steam as well, you could also try the regular 'ol steam friend invite system.

[sweet elbow]

Oh okay! Yes then I had playfab/crossplay turned on and it said failed to connect. Might have something to do with cloud sycning then. I'll try steam friend invite method soon and I'll tell if it worked. Thanks again!

[manic parcel]

Cloud syncing failing shouldn't prevent you from connecting. That said we're working on fixing the cloud sync issue as well. And yeah do let me know if that works for you! 🙂

[manic parcel]

That was me :). I posted in that thread but I'll repost it here:

In the meantime, it's possible to kinda fix this yourself - if you log in on your Windows/Linux PC and locate all legacy saves from the manage saves menu (denoted by the little floppy disk icon) and either remove them or move them to cloud, then move back to your Mac, the cloud syncing should work again. You may need to click the little arrow next to each each entry to see all the backups - if there are no floppy disks left even among the backups, you should be good to go! Make sure to do this both for worlds and characters. Then you can just exit the game, move over to your mac, and the sync should work. (Edit: I also had to restart steam on my Mac)
(We're still gonna try to fix it properly, but it might be good to let you guys know how to work around it in the meantime!)
Edit 2: Actually this only seems to work about half the time, so it's not really that helpful :p And you need to reinstall steam on your mac https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/30EB-87BF-531F-512D so it's rather clumsy
Edit 3: Yeah this is too messy 😄 we'll just fix it properly lol

[limpid tide]

Hello. A friend and I have been trying to utilize cross play since Mac version came out (I am on Xbox for context). However, it says we cannot play due to having different version numbers. She has .015 when she downloaded the game and I have most recent .016. We have tried reinstalling the game, checking for updates in the Mac store etc., but after all that it still has the same version number. Is there a way to update to the most recent version that we are missing so we can play together? Lol thanks in advance

[spiral halo]

15 is the most recent live version of the game, you appear to be on the PTB.

[limpid tide]

Thanks for clarifying. Do you have any idea when they plan to release .016 for everyone?

[spiral halo]

Any day now I'd imagine, it's been a little while now.

[chilly burrow]

id say its going to be more then a week atlest

[spiral halo]

OK.

[hard fog]

MAC don't have a PTB yet. so you need to be on .15

[quartz obsidian]

no mac
spend a day to repurpose old thinkpad into mac
buy valheim in appstore
format mac
at least got valheim for mac in case i ever want to get a mac

[wild mural]

which one is better

appstore version or steam version

can we play crossplatform with xbox?

[solemn cypress]

Yes, you can play with Xbox platfrom. Steam version supports Cloud saving now, so if you plan on playing on multiple devices, I would go for that version.

Some Cloud sync bugs still have to be ironed out on Steam version tho, so one might get some Cloud of sync messages, until fixed.

[winged kernel]

Hi, I would like to ask if it's possible to get world files in MacOS?
I have been playing with my friends by using my mac as a host but we want to move to cloud and continue playing on the same world.
I have digged into Valheim package contents but I haven't found them yet...

[tawny wind]

I am running the Steam version for MacOS and the local worlds are located in Library - Application Support - com.coffeestain.valheim - worlds_local.

I don't know if this is where the AppStore MacOS version puts them as well or not.

[hard fog]

appstore don't allow for cloud storage since it's so limited in size

[tawny wind]

A search for .db files on your drive didn't turn up any results?

[hard fog]

it's usually in a hidden holder

[tawny wind]

The app store version saves it's worlds in Library - Containers - Valheim - Data - Library - Application Support - com.coffeestain.valheim - worlds_local

Do you see your world in there?

If you can't see hidden folders then open a terminal and type:
defaults write com.apple.Finder AppleShowAllFiles true
Press Enter to run the script and then type:
killall Finder
Press Enter again. You will be able to see hidden folders. Once you are done you can perform the same commands but instead of true at the end of the command use false

[hard fog]

for PC. we store in 2 separate folders

one folder is the same for both Microsoft store and for steam version

so I assume we do the same for Mac

I can't check on my own mac atm.. I am waiting for a new keyboard and mouse 🥲

[tawny wind]

I'm not sure what you are referring too. I understood that you were hosting on your mac and your world should be in that path (2 files) with your worlds name. PC's store their files in a different path (even between windows version and steam version).

You want to move that world to the cloud so someone with either the windows or steam version can create a new local world using the exact same name and seed. Then copy your 2 files to that machine and they can then push it to the cloud where you can all join.

[hard fog]

no. PC always store in the same main directory locally

C:\Users\ <username> \AppData\LocalLow\IronGate\Valheim

[tawny wind]

That's fine then, just follow my steps and you can push it to the cloud.

[wild mural]

thanks! I got myself the steam version im excited to play with my brother

[winged kernel]

Yep it's there. In addition to that, I also need to set world files in game to local by "move to local" or something like that.
But it works in the end

Also, is there a way to force mac to run Valheim using metal rendering or it's already run using that?

[tawny wind]

Sorry, I don’t know about forcing the Metal rendering.

[manic parcel]

It uses metal per default if available

[atomic scarab]

Hello, I want to share my experience about Valheim. These days I played Valheim on Mac m3 max chip. It’s great optimize game. My fps is great in 4k. But couple issues happened, first I didn’t check P ping bug fix or not but 2 days ago I can’t write p on map. Also steam cloud save not working for me, also every time I enter the game my graphic settings always reset. So these issues I am dealing with it.
Also I played this game since release then I stopped play some life reasons. After 2 years later I come back. New features I love it in game but if you value about my comments. I would like to share 2 things about buildings. Valheim building system is my main fun. I spent hours. Love it. And I always miss one feature about building. Making real ancient buildings not just gothic style or regular architecture. Real domes and vaults with good looking buildings. For that 2 building material is always missing straight roof and pendentive (game mechanics half size 26,45 degrees interior roof can make it I think) and ashland build items doesn’t have 26,45 degrees build items as well. With that I can’t build more creative buildings maybe I can’t find it developers already thing but I want to share my thoughts. These materials with wood stone etc. Can open more interesting building. Even build materials in game almost give us this chance. Just lack of build in materials geometry and specs. I am always working with ancient buildings in my real life so hopefully I give good advice to your good game. Maybe developers decide to force people to make regular simple buildings idk but I always miss these items. If you interested my comments this link photo can show you what I try to talking about https://blog.kaarwan.com/squinches-and-pendentives-in-architecture-8359cf6b8825 Also I can explain with game screenshots if you want it. Thank you. Best regards.

[spiral halo]

Is... is that a bug?

[atomic scarab]

Steam cloud issue P letter and game always resetting to my graphics settings is bug. Second paragraph suggestion. Am I write wrong area?

[spiral halo]

Ah, I didn't see that there were two different things. The second half should probably go in #suggestions

[atomic scarab]

Okay. Sorry I should write there. Thank you. I will write.

[uneven elm]

Is this gonna fry our Mac’s

[manic parcel]

The P ping bug and graphics resetting will be fixed in the next patch - not sure when that will be out yet but hopefully soon. The steam cloud save stuff - we are working on actively but don't have a fix yet.

[atomic scarab]

Okay. I’m just letting you know. You guys doing great work. Thank you.

[charred blaze]

Hello keyboards warriors. Im having problems with the game recognizing my keyboard and mouse as a console (controler), while having no problems on the start up menu. And of course, the gamepad is not enabled in the menu. I have only wasd and space bar working in game. I tried another keyboard and every unplug, window, reboot, restart mixing. Anyone have an idea? I found nothing about that for pc users. Could i force use of keyboard? Im on a 2013 Imac with catalina. Thank uu

[uneven elm]

Playing some Valheim on my MBP but the magic mouse doesn't have mouse button 1 and 2

How do you find a way to block and equip

[zenith bison]

Hi !
I just bought the game via the App Store, but after creating my character and clicked Start, I'm stuck on that screen
I got a M1Pro Mac 32GB of Ram on Sonoma

[tight gyro]

Hi,
So as of today, I am unable to load my player upon startup. Can someone help me?

[solemn cypress]

Is your character selectable in the character selectoin menu? Is the character visible when clicking on the manage saves button in the starting menu? Did you try opting into playing public beta version of the game recently?

[tight gyro]

I can't see my character when I load up. It asks me to create a new one.
And if I hit cancel and Manage Saves, there is no drop down menu

And I'm not playing on the Beta
I tried but it wouldnt let me when I first started playing

[solemn cypress]

Nothing happens when you click manage saves menu, or the menu does appear but you just don't see the backups in the popup menu?
Can you see your saves in Library - Containers - Valheim - Data - Library - Application Support - com.coffeestain.valheim - characters_local?

You can also try accessing the folder by clicking the white button in the starting menu, shown in the bottom left corner of the screen, labelled as "Show player.log". DM us that player.log if you can and snap a screenshot or two of how the manage saves menu looks for you

[tight gyro]

I can pull up the menu, thers just nothing there

[solemn cypress]

Installed from Steam or App store?

[tight gyro]

And I clicked on the Player Log and took my to my Logs folder.
In it were only 2 files

1. 'Player-prev'
2. 'Player'

Both were log files

I installed through steam

[solemn cypress]

Ah, should have asked that first. Are you having any Cloud sync errors prior to starting Valheim?
Also double check if Steam Cloud is enabled for Valheim in Steam library.
Player file should be more useful.

[tight gyro]

I was playing last night and had no issues until I launched it today

In had everything running on the Cloud and backed up the files locally and nothing

[solemn cypress]

How does your Cloud status look like now?

[solemn cypress]

Did you reach the world creation screen? Does this happen after world creation or after character creation?

[solemn cypress]

Do you have a screenshot of how the key hints look for you in the starting menu, when you are using your keyboard and mouse?
What happens when you disconnect the mouse and only try navigating via keyboard?

[solemn cypress]

Do you have secondary click option enabled for your magic mouse? (system → mouse preferences)
When you access controls setting in the game and attempt to change the binds, how does your secondary click get registered, and hold does holding and double click get registered?
Any difference in how clicks get registered when you adjust the click speed in the accessibility settings?

[tight gyro]

Cloud Status says Up To Date

[solemn cypress]

Hm. when you login to your Steam accout via browser, and go to this link, do you see Valheim saves there?
https://store.steampowered.com/account/remotestorageapp/?appid=892970

[zenith bison]

Ok I just tried again and waited, it finally worked! Thanks

[uneven elm]

Ty king.

Have you found this overheats your mac

I need to a good mac app to monitor temps

[astral vessel]

Valheim? Yeah my M1 gets pretty hot but it's just an Air

[final shuttle]

This error only occurs if you previously had the game running on windows.
I checked Steam's CloudLog
error:
Unable to resolve path with root WinAppDataLocalLow (12)

… steam cannot synchronize this data. 🤷🏿

@manic parcel
Do you have an idea when this error will be fixed?

[manic parcel]

It should be fixed now!

[sly fiber]

Same happening here. Everything was working fine two days ago, then yesterday all characters and worlds disappeared from the game, but they are still in their folders.

Last thing I did was place an egg next to a fire. Got to go and check if the chicken has hatched!!

[charred blaze]

Interestingly, i tried it via steam account of a friend, and it worked! So it seems related to the app store.
Is this the key hints in picture? (not english maternal language) Without mouse nothing changes, just wasd working and i can change from console 1 and 2 and classic. Mouse is not moving.

[sly fiber]

I found the solution.

They just changed the folder where you can find your characters and worlds without communicating it.
It is now library/application support/IronGate/Valheim
In case your characters and worlds disappeared, it is simply because they moved the folder where they are stored. Steam purchase here. Hope this helps anyone who like me has spent hours looking for the answer.

[manic parcel]

Where was it located before for you? Application Support/IronGate/Valheim was and is supposed to be the default location on Steam versions of Mac. So if yours were in a different place, that sounds like a bug.

[tight gyro]

You're a life saver!!!

Do I just drag the files to the original folder?
Library/Logs/Iron Gate/Valehim

[solemn cypress]

Did you check if you have your saves visible in the Steam Cloud by logging into the link I gave you here?
https://store.steampowered.com/account/remotestorageapp/?appid=892970

If you want your save files to be loaded locally, you can download them from that link and place them in ~/Library/Application Support/IronGate/Valheim to fix your issue.
However, manually moving your saves from Cloud to Local shouldn't be necessary.
The question is why aren't your Cloud save files not loading properly, and the problem is most likely related to where your Steam Cloud saves are currently on your disk. Can you send us your ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/logs/cloud_log.txt ?

[warm panther]

I reinstalled the server on my mac through steam and its not creating a the Irongate/Valheim file, it's still just putting the files straight into Application Support

[regal quarry]

Hello all! i just got valhiem on Mac and im having some issues. I cant see any servers to join and i cant connect to my friends dedicated server either via IP. i dont have any firewalls up or VPNS. I have a tplink router but have not modified any settings either. my mac and game are up to date. Is there a FAQ or guide someone can point me too, im lost... thanks

[spiral halo]

Is their sever crossplay?

[solemn cypress]

Did you attempt to list a custom file path in the dedicated server config? Can you paste your configuration (world name, server name, file path)?

[solemn cypress]

None of the servers visible in the community tab? Try to wait 2min min, for them to show up. Valheim is on AppStore or Steam?
DM me the player.log file after you visit the community tab and wait for 2min. You can find the log by clicking the white button in the left bottom corner of the starting menu, whcih will lead you to the location the file is in.

[warm panther]

It's a clean install from Steam, so no custom paths. World name: Dedicated. Server name: My server. ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common (server install path) . ~/Library/Application Support/ (location of worlds.local,adminlist,bannedlist,permittedlist) Build ID: 14674300

[solemn cypress]

Does that system also have a client installed that you might have launched before the server?

[warm panther]

Yes, The game client is also installed

[warm panther]

And it was probably started before the server

[misty anchor]

@warm panther did you solve your issue, I’m on Mac and I’m having a similar issue. I’m getting “Failed to connect” every time I attempt to join any servers

[warm panther]

No solve for my issue, no matter what i do, the Steam version keeps putting the files in Application Support. But I haven't had any trouble joining other servers.

[solemn cypress]

Are you using any VPN services (e.g Nord VPN?)
What result do you get when you test your NAT type? https://tomchen.github.io/symmetric-nat-test/

[sly fiber]

No I don't think they go in the Logs folder, just the one I pointed out. Before they were on Application Support/com.coffestain.valheim/ etc for me. Steam install

[rotund parrot]

Hi, i have a problem with AppStore version - my friend has dedicated server, and he can connect to it, but for me, it seems offline - it will be problem with server or client?

[solemn cypress]

Can be both. I would recommend for you to both try accessing some random server in the community tab, to see if you can reach the password promprt for it.
I can also host one test server if you want that you both can try connecting to.

[rotund parrot]

we can connect to other servers. i can't find this one - he can.

[hard lintel]

Does anybody know how to not show the mouse cursor the whole time in the center of the screen? Game runs perfectly fine apart from that. M1 Max Macbook.

[atomic scarab]

In Mac I am reporting one more bug. In Mac we use multiple desktops. And always switch between them. So once I switch to another one. My character run infinite I can’t cancel. For now’s solution is re go to another window and wait come back and all good. Once I think p button on map bug, graphic settings resetting bug and cloud save bug. It’s small bug but bug.

[solemn cypress]

Try opening pause menu, physically unplug your mouse or disconnect it from WiFi/bluetooth, reconnect it, and only then close the pause menu.

[solemn cypress]

Does the method of switching to another monitor matter?

[solemn cypress]

Still having problems accessing the server? Have you tried joining it via both join code and IP:port ?

[atomic scarab]

No same monitor. Main monitor of my MacBook. Once I switch for example Valheim window to chrome window or desktop window. It is happen.
In windows systems usually we use one main desktop (window) and use alt tab for switch applications. In Mac every app almost use fullscreen individual windows (or desktop). That error comes in that times. Also I don’t have second monitor so I can’t test it. But if somebody use second monitor. I think they should check it and reply you as well.

[rotund parrot]

Yes, both didn't work

[hard lintel]

It was using the MacBook Trackpad. Hard to unplug 😉 any other thoughts?

[rotund parrot]

Disabling CrossPlay on server helped

[solemn cypress]

Crossplay usually doesn't work if one is behind strict NAT, which can happen if someone uses VPN or their ISP has them behind CGNAT.
Could you both do this test just for the sake of it?
https://tomchen.github.io/symmetric-nat-test/

[solemn cypress]

Similar problem can happen on Windows also, so probably related, but only in the input device re-connects during gameplay.
Although, I've never seen it happen on windows for laptop touch pad. Launching via Steam or AppStore?

[hard lintel]

Steam

[solemn cypress]

I meant which exact method do you use to switch between apps/windows?
Window tab, Trackpad swipe, magic mouse, control + arrows, command + tab, command + tilde?
Does the issue also happen when you don't have the apps you are switching to in the full screen window?
Do you get the same problem if you open up the pause menu before switching apps?

[solemn cypress]

Can you check if you have cursor shake enabled? (sytem Preferences → accessibility → display → uncheck shake mouse pointer to locate)
If that isn't an issue, can you see if opening Valheim properties in the Steam library and disabling Steam input for Valheim does anything for you?

[hard lintel]

Sure will do. Thank you for the follow up. I will report.

[atomic scarab]

Trackpad swipe in fullscreen mode, I didn’t pause game and try or other use scenarios. Also not play this game without fullscreen mode. Eventually if I stop game and try probably that issue not gonna be happen. Because game is paused.
In game if I switch window my character moving movement stuck.
For example press w and swipe to next window with track pad and then come back game with swipe. (I use Mac like that.) What happens is character always move forward and if I press w character stop. Button use opposite. And if I don’t press any button character going forward but if I swipe window again and come back that problem gone. And everything works well again. I hope I explain everything well 🙂

[tight portal]

please fix this keybind BUG - we need to be able to use all keys when typing labels on the map!! or give us an option to "use PC steam version keybinds" or something!

[odd gorge]

Hey guys trying to get the game working last night. Having problems with playing between Windows and Mac. I am hosting the game on my windows pc which is top spec with a really solid internet connection. My friend who is on Mac can't join the game. It either comes up with Failed to Connect or Couldnt Resolve Join Code error. It doesn't let him get to the password screen. When I try to join a game he hosts on his mac I get the same issue. I have no problems joining other Windows based servers, and my other friend who is also on pc can join no problems. We have tried with both the App Store and Steam versions for the mac installation and its the same problem. He doesn't have a VPN or anything like that enabled on his mac. Anyone got any ideas on how we can start to fix this issue?

[solemn cypress]

Steam based installation can connect to Crossplay and Steam servers, but AppStore instlallation can only connect to Crossplay servers. Have you tried hosting a world on a Steam platform with crossplay **disabled **and your friend connecting to it via Steam platform on a Mac as well?
Generally you both should try connecting to some random community server that has Crossplay enabled, to see if you can reach password prompt.

The above server is Steam server and the below one is Crossplay server (Crosspaly servers have intertwined arrows 🔀 icon next to their name).

[atomic scarab]

Maybe developers can give more better answer I’m just a person who plays this game on Mac with my windows player friend. We played games more than 100 hours after Mac release together.
Sometimes connection error happens. What we do is we both close game and close steam. Even if need it restarts machines. For clearing cache and if some updates happen for updating steam or valheim. So with that that error gone. Not forever.
It doesn’t matter who create server. Just if connection error happens just restart everything.
I don’t know App Store version but steam version it works with my windows steam player friend.
And make sure server creation done right. Best regards

[odd gorge]

yes - me (pc) hosting a steam crossplay world. Mac player tried to connect with join code, searching for server in game through friends, and also trying to connect / invite via steam client and same problem every time. my other pc friends can connect to my game no problem

[solemn cypress]

Had a typo there. Meant, Have you tried hosting a world on a Steam platform with crossplay disabled and your friend connecting to it via Steam platform on a Mac as well?

[odd gorge]

I think so but im not 100% sure, I will try again

[limpid perch]

do gamepad controllers work with the mac version?

mine gets detected my macos and steam but does not work in game

[solemn cypress]

Which controller do you have? Try with Steam input both disabled and enabled in Valheim Steam properties.
Also try physically re-plugging the controller once in the game. If you are using Bluetooth or WiFi connection for the controller, try the USB cable.

[limpid perch]

red gear xbox 360

Try with Steam input both disabled and enabled in Valheim Steam properties.
tried both did not work

physically re-plugging the controller
didnt work either 😢

[outer topaz]

just bought steam version for macbook m1 air - unfortunately game doesn't start, no visible errors, window stays that forever.

[hard fog]

validate game files

and look if some program in the background is seeking your attention

[outer topaz]

validated no problems, no programs breaks factorio or subnautica, so all should work without issues

[hard fog]

Hm.. need to find the player.log file then 🤔

[solemn cypress]

Did you happen to check your player.log file yet?

Should be located in: ~/Library/Application Support/IronGate/Valheim

[outer topaz]

unfortunately no such file

[outer topaz]

okay, because it was on ~/Libraray/Logs. Now out of sudden game launches, but I dont have any saves from cloud/steam, despite more than 100 hours on windows version. my world and characres are gone? 🥺

[solemn cypress]

Old windows saves weren't syncing properly before, but should on this game version. Do you get a Cloud sync error before launching?
If not, the saves are probably there, but again probably on a wrong location. Before we go hunting them, can you check in the browser, if your saves are visible in the Steam Cloud at: https://store.steampowered.com/account/remotestorageapp/?appid=892970

[outer topaz]

thanks, no sync errors visible. by this link it is empty. If i remember correctly, it was on irongate's servers

[solemn cypress]

If you played the game on Windows Steam, and haven't specifically disabled Steam Cloud for Valheim, both worlds and characters should be visible on the link.
IronGate doesn't have any special servers in general, let alone for storing saves.
If you logged in to that link I gave you with a correct Steam Account, and your saves are missing, something went terribly wrong or when you were on Windows you weren't playing on Steam Cloud saves.

[azure junco]

Hi all, I'm trying to play on the mac version for the first time. I have hundreds of hours on Windows, and I run my own dedicated server on my Unraid server via stmcmd docker. I just started a new world save and character a week or so ago as I had taken a break for a while.

For some reason, when I launch the game on my Mac, my new character won't load. i checked and the character files and backups are all present locally, and I can see the character in the manage saves screen in game. When I check the player.log I get the following:
07/03/2024 22:16:34: Player data is not compatible, ignoring 07/03/2024 22:16:34: Failed to load hafdan

Additionally, when I try to log into my dedicated server from any character (even one freshly created on the mac), I get kicked back to the title screen with an Incompatible Version error.

I'm also having even bigger issues getting characters to load on my steam deck.

I've check and all my clients and server are on the latest live version of the game, 0.218.19. Any help is appreciated!

[solemn cypress]

Were you maybe playing on public beta version of the game back on windows? (spawn rates on Ashlands nerfed)

[solemn cypress]

PTB saves can't load on 0.218.19 version.
In this particular case, 0.218.19 is **not **really an upgrade over 0.218.17 (PTB versions), as 0.218.19 doesn't contain PTB changes.
0.218.19 was more of a hotfix for the live version that was 0.218.15
Normally hotfixes usually have the same version number, so that this confusion never happens, but current live version in particular had to be higher.

[azure junco]

Maybe but I am pretty sure I am not opted into any betas on any platform

[azure junco]

I would have to have the beta enabled in Steam, right? nevermind, somehow I was in the public test branch. I don't know how I missed that.

Thank you

Is there a way to un-do that incompatibility? Or once a character is used on the PTB I'll just have to wait for that game version to be available on the other platforms?

[turbid thorn]

Waiting will be your safest bet if. You can check for backup character files that may have been created prior to the PTB exceeding the public branch if you are OK with a potentially out-of-date inventory and stats.

If it's important to you, and you don't think you grabbed any items or conquered quests that were beta-specific, you can hack the file down in version with a bytes or hex editor. Obviously this would be at your own risk and you should back up the file manually beforehand.

[turbid thorn]

I'm loving the new mac port so far. The Metal shaders seem on par with the OpenGL shaders on performance. My only gripe has been the default keybind of the Command/⌘ key. I'm used to using it for ⌘+tab-ing in and out of the game or copy+pasting in chat and find myself accidentally attacking or deconstructing things now when I do either action.

I'm guessing it was chosen over the middle mouse button for the sake of Trackpad and Apple Magic Mouse?

[turbid thorn]

Scratch out "on par". I'm getting 100+ FPS in the meadows with maxed out graphics sliders as long as I'm not near my base. This is performing great!

[icy skiff]

is there a way to mod on mac or nah ? steam mac btw

[turbid thorn]

Yep. You can run macOS Valheim (Steam) pretty well with a BepInEx wrapper.

https://github.com/BepInEx/BepInEx/releases to download BepInEx v5

I'm sure there are easier ways to launch, but I usually extract BepInEx to a dir and create a shell script outside of it called something like run_valheim_with_bepinex.sh that looks like:

#!/usr/bin/env sh
export SteamAppId=892970
cd bepinex  # Replace with the root path of your extracted BepInEx package. It should have an inner BepInEx dir.
./run_bepinex.sh ~/'Library/Application Support/Steam/SteamApps/common/Valheim/valheim.app'

You can alternatively modify run_bepinex.sh to point right at it.

Steam will need to be running already. When you first run it, it will create config and plugins dirs. You can then edit the bootstrapped BepInEx/config/BepInEx.cfg to have Type = GameObject (instead of Application) in the [Preloader.Entrypoint] for earlier entry required by some mods.

"Mods" typically take the form of .DLL files that would go in your BepInEx dir's plugins subdir. Despite the .DLL extension they are rarely hard Windows machine binaries, and instead are usually .Net assemblies, which will work just fine in macOS.

[turbid thorn]

If you always want to launch the game with your mods in-tact, you can skip making a script like I do above and just follow these instructions:
https://docs.bepinex.dev/articles/advanced/steam_interop.html

[icy skiff]

hey thanks very much

[icy skiff]

umm just one more thing were should i put the mods

[turbid thorn]

After your first run with BepInEx, there should be a plugins subdirectory of the main BepInEx folder. So extracted_bepinex_dir/BepInEx/plugins

If you named the extracted dir BepInEx like I did, then BepInEx/BepInEx/plugins. You plop the DLLs in there. I think there's a config dir at the same level for .cfg files if your plugins have specific configs. Worth reading the BepInEx docs to get a lay of the land. https://docs.bepinex.dev/index.html

If you run into trouble, #mods-discussion and #mods-issues may be good places to ask.

[icy skiff]

thx again

[near halo]

i can't see written texts on signs due to ''UGC Settings'' i'm playing on mac app store version, someone can help me to fix this?

[turbid thorn]

If @manic parcel is around, he'd be best person to ask. I suspect there's a blanket default for now to comply with the Apple App Store's UGC requirement: https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/#user-generated-content
I don't know what the roadmap looks like for resolving it if there's not already a Settings field for it or a manual override available from the console.

The Steam version has no such restriction out of the box, including the Steam-delivered macOS build.

[solemn cypress]

Try adjusting your content restrictions to appropriate age level in Settings App → Screen Time → Content & Privacy Restrictions → iTunes & App Store Purchases → Content Restrictions

[near halo]

hmm nice try but doesn't work

thank you

[stray coral]

Hey yesterday my friend and I started to play Valheim again. At first everything went fine we were playing for like 2 hours and then my riend had a disconnect due to her own internet connection problems. Since then it hasnt been possible for us to connect to each other because it always "failed to connect". I tried every tip&trick i found on the internet but nothing seems to work we both even reinstalled the game.

I am on Windows and my friend is a Mac User. Can anyone help us figure ot the problem? Thank you!

[humble bluff]

I need help with a problem for a friend. As soon as I load a world, my game freezes in the loading screen. I don't have an error message or anything, the game just stops responding and I'm stuck in the black screen. I hope someone can help me. I have also waited a few minutes even when the game wasnt responding. Unfortunately, that didnt help either

[alpine pagoda]

New world?
if so it takes a while for a new world to generate and can take 5-10 minutes on average, longer times have been reported.
Best thing to do is loading the world and get the hell away from your pc.
Go make a sandwich, make some tea, taker a toilet break, just give the computer and the game some time to get it on.
Go back after about 10 minutes and check if it has resolved itself, if not give it another 10 minutes and one more if that isn't doing it.
If it takes longer than half an hour there might be another problem.

The other problem might be driver related issues so make sure the drivers of the graphics card and other things are up to date, do the updates that haven't been done yet, etc.

[humble bluff]

Big thanks to u man, it worked. ❤️

[alpine pagoda]

Happy to help another valheimian.

[solemn cypress]

Sometimes due to unexpected disconnect, a crossplay connection can remain handing on playfab servers, directing new connection attemps to that old session.
Try rebooting both of your routers. The non host player should aslo delete the server entry from the favorites tab, before connecting again throuhg join code.

This hanging connections usually get cleared after an hour, so if the issue remains, the problem might be somewhere else.

[wintry nova]

Hey Guys,

I've been running the game from Steam natively on my MBP with the M2 Pro chipset. However, whenever I try to connect to any server (dedicated or public), it doesn’t prompt for a password. It goes straight to connecting and then shows a "failed to connect" message, putting me back in the main menu.

I couldn't find any solutions online, as all the articles I came across were older than when the game launched for Mac. I’ve tried turning off my firewall and private relay. My VPN is disconnected, and I’m playing on a stable WiFi connection on the 5G band.

If anyone has any clue what can be done about this issue, I would really appreciate it. I'm looking forward to playing online.

The macOS, steam client and game are all upto date

Thanks in advance!

[solemn cypress]

Think I responded to you on Steam forums about this one. Had a chance to check that?

[past swift]

Hi, what MacBook should I consider buying if I want to play Valheim on it? Any spec recommendations?

[past swift]

My issue with the windows laptop is that the fan is going crazy when playing Valheim, is this better on a MacBook?

[turbid thorn]

The latest MacBook Air and MacBook Pro models are truly quieter for gaming than most of what's out there. You can't expect them to be silent, though. Unity engine games, especially immersive 3D ones with lots of object instances will see both your CPU and GPU cores pretty busy, and in the small confines of a laptop, it will certainly need to cool them to prevent damage to battery and other sensitive bits.

The MacBook Pro is said to have better thermal management than Air for sustained workload, like gaming for hours, but that also means it can get louder.

If you're buying used, the ARM64 CPUs (even M1) with integrated graphics have had better numbers in Valheim than the older x86_64 models with discrete GPU. The older x86_64 models also had a more aggressive/loud fan profile.

[past swift]

Thank you, would it work best with M3 Max or Pro?

[turbid thorn]

I have no advice there. This person has some ideas specifically around fan noise between the two: https://www.reddit.com/r/macbookpro/comments/187dqau/my_thoughts_on_m3_pro_vs_max/

[latent epoch]

Running on an M2 Max here with 30GPU cores. 1440p, no issues.

It gets a little noisy after a while, but that's a good excuse to turn up the music.

[pallid pike]

yeah, i've played on both m1 and m2 max laptops, works great. fan can be annoying sometimes. but i dial down some stuff like vegatation anyways

[hard fog]

can't really do much about fan noice to be honest 🤔

for normal laptop use, I could always getting a cooling plate with a large fan to keep the build in one to work as little as possible

[turbid thorn]

@hard fog if you're around, might you have some insight on this query re the UGC-blocking in the App Store version? #mac-bugs-discussion message

[hard fog]

sadly I am very unfamiliuar with Apple and it's products.
but I'll ask around and see what I can dig up

[manic parcel]

Hey, I just got back from vacation. Don't know exactly why that's happening for you at the moment, but I will look into it. Thanks for the ping @turbid thorn 🙂

[manic parcel]

Yeah the command key being the default is on me. I know it's not ideal. You can always rebind it, but I agree that a better keybind should've been used, might have to change it.

[turbid thorn]

Welcome back!

[hard fog]

it's nice to have @manic parcel back 😉

[inner jackal]

Good evening. Please tell me how to activate the console on a mac? I tried to register "-console" in steam, but it doesn't work. I bought the game for the second time in the appstore. Created a file "valheim.sh "It doesn't work either. Does anyone run the console on a mac/

[solemn cypress]

It works for me both on Steam and AppStore. Are you sure that your F5 is registered as F5?
https://en.key-test.ru/

[inner jackal]

Thank you very much. I'm the idiot. The F5 button is pressed via Fn.

[stray coral]

Hello! I have the Apple Store version of Valheim and unfortunately, I can't find any online servers. I also don't see any requests in my firewall indicating that Valheim is trying to establish a connection. What can I do? Are others experiencing this issue as well?

[solemn cypress]

My other community servers load instanly. Try to type world in the filter box and wait for few minutes.
Generally I wound't recommend joining a server that way. There are better way to go about joining one's server, like a join code.

[stray coral]

I have already created my own server, but I can't join it using the server's IP address, although my friends can join it.

[solemn cypress]

How did you create a server? Did you create a dedicated server on the same device?

[stray coral]

I have rented a server

[solemn cypress]

Did you enable crossplay on your rented server? AppStore version of Valheim requires it to establish a connection.
Since you can't see other server, your internet connection might incompatible with crossplay features.
This usually happens when someone is behind double NAT, strict NAT or CGNAT (Internet Service provider puts you behind NAT).
Most VPN services function by placing you behind NAT, are you using any?
To test if you are behind NAT, you can open terminal on your Mac, and type the command "tracerouter 8.8.8.8"

If you see any addresses (except the first one) starting with 192. 10. 172. you are behing NAT, and if you see some starting with 100, you are behind CGNAT.

[stray coral]

After a few minutes, when I search for 'world' in the filter, I can see other servers. However, I still can't see my own server. It might actually be due to the crossplay setting what you mentioned.

traceroute to 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  unifi (192.168.1.1)  9.831 ms  3.467 ms  3.060 ms
 2  192.168.0.1 (192.168.0.1)  5.567 ms  8.711 ms  6.286 ms

[solemn cypress]

DM me your traceroute list rather
The second hop indicated that you are at least behind two routers.
Know anyhting about that?

[stray coral]

Yes, I use a router from my provider for 5G reception, and then it goes through a Unifi Dream Router. I have also blocked various countries like Russia, China, etc., but I think this is not critical for receiving the server list or connecting to a server within Europe.

I will try adjusting the NAT settings on the Unifi router. Unfortunately, my stupid Internet provider has disabled Bridge mode, so I have to run everything through the 5G router aswell.

[solemn cypress]

Might be a good idea to also test connecting mac to your iPhone via WiFi hotspot, so that iPhone is not connected to the home WiFi rather it only having mobile internet access, so that your Mac can also get mobile internet access from the phone. If that works, that are can be sure the problem is with the home rouhter setup, but if that doesn't work, it might still be some firewall on mac, maybe for some other game blocking Microsoft servers. Microsoft servers usually start with IP 20.

[stray coral]

Your tip about Crossplay solved my problem, thank you 🙂

[eager wave]

I've run into an issue where I can't launch the game (Steam). I get to the Valheim logo before you get to the main menu, the Thor hammer spins in the bottom right, fades and then I get the beachball. It'll spin for a few minutes and then close. I've tried loading it with a tiny resolution, safe mode and checked for any logs/prefs in the Application Support folder but nothing seemed to work. Tried verifying the game files and reinstalled completely with the exact same behaviour. I played a few days ago, but now no dice. I'm on an M3 MBP and it's been running great for a few weeks. Anyone have any suggestions?

[solemn cypress]

So it was running ok, then suddenly doesn't anymore? Did you change anything on your system, like added a new input device?
Tried loading into the game with Steam Cloud disabled (for Valheim specifically)?
I would like to see how your player.log like after you attempt to launch the game. You can DM me the file

[eager wave]

I had some accessories plugged in I didn't before, but I have since removed them (just USB accessories) and restarted. I disabled Steam Cloud and launched with the same result. I don't think I have a player.log? Or certainly don't know how to find it. There isn't any file like that in the App Support folder. Can you help me locate it?

[solemn cypress]

For Steam version of the game, the player.log file should be located at:

/users/youruser/library/Logs/IronGate/Valheim

[eager wave]

Okay, I shut everything down and restarted and tested again and it seems to be working now...!

I don't get it, but it must have been something in the way. Thank you @solemn cypress for your help! Hopefully it doesn't happen again! I hate when it works without an actual solution

[solemn cypress]

Player.log file also overwrites itself every time you launch the game, so we probably can't check the old player.log file either.

Please grab that file if something were to happen next time.

[eager wave]

Will do! Thanks for your help. Now I know where to find it. I was looking in the App Support area. I'll be ready if it happens again

[hallow moat]

Hey is anyone here

Wondering if I can use a PlayStation remote to play this on my Mac

[pallid pike]

there isn't a playstation version of the game

[pallid pike]

you can play it macOS native on Steam, or you could play it on GeForceNOW with a good internet connection, or the Xbox version on your mac somehow maybe

[hallow moat]

I wanted to download the OSX Apple version of the game and hopefully use my PlayStation remote via Bluetooth

[eager wave]

Do you mean like a controller? If so, yeah it should work great. I use a Dualsense for tons of games on my Mac

[hallow moat]

Ok. Wasn’t sure if it was more of a keyboard game which I’m not a big fan of these days

[pallid pike]

yes. I use an xbox controller mainly, and keyboard a little bit on my mac laptop

[hallow moat]

Ok thanks that’s all I wanted to know

Is this game fun? Also is it primarily survival or it it more exploration

[pallid pike]

you're on a discord for people who play the game. no one is going to say the game isn't fun

[hallow moat]

Like if if you don’t eat food/ water will you die

[pallid pike]

food gives you buffs. you should maybe check out some youtube videos of gameplay

[hallow moat]

Ok yeah I get that

The game looks fun to me but making sure I won’t have to eat to survive. Don’t like the death timer games

[pallid pike]

there is no death timer mechanic. but you do need to eat better food as you get deeper into the game for better buffs

[hallow moat]

Then Have to restart from scratch

Ok cool that’s fine

I’ll buy it then, been eyeing it for awhile but haven’t got it because I wanted to answer these questions first

[pallid pike]

i've got almost 700 hours on steam for this game. it's fun to me at least

[hallow moat]

Do you think Steam version of the game is more stable

[pallid pike]

i doubt there's any difference

but i buy all games on Steam if i can, for cross platform play

er, having the game on more than 1 platform, i mean

[hallow moat]

Yeah makes sense

Steam has sales too where osx apps don’t

[pallid pike]

yep

[pallid socket]

What is the key for hiding the HUD on Mac? (I’m using the App Store version). The ctrlF3 mentioned for PC doesn’t work.

[restive sigil]

pretty sure it used to be F2. so depending on your key settings, either F2 directly, or fn + F2 (if you have media keys enabled). oh sorry, that's the debug HUD. try fn + F3 in that case.

[pallid pike]

f2 is the window that shows instance count. f3 does nothing unfortunately

[turbid thorn]

I personally recommend the Steam version over the Apple App Store version. You get more options for server connectivity and no user-generated content strangeness.
It can be hard to find where the Steam version puts things, but that's a minor gripe.

[restive sigil]

for ctrl + F3 to work, you'd have to disable the default ctrl + F3 shortcut in macOS (which moves focus to the Dock). can confirm hiding the HUD works if you do that.

[turbid thorn]

This is more complex than @restive sigil simple solution above, but you can also disable/enable the hud from the console. So you can start the game in a Terminal with something like:

open -a Valheim --args -console

Then F5 (or Fn+F5 if media keys), then type hud in the console to toggle it on or off. You can also bind it to a key of your choice in the game console, for example bind quote hud to bind the single-quote button to toggle the HUD.

@pallid socket ☝️

[pallid pike]

huh. i disabled it, but it's still not working. i wonder if i need to restart valheim or something

interesting

[turbid thorn]

You tried Ctrl+Fn+F3?

[pallid pike]

yep

[reef bear]

Hey there, long time PC player of this wonderful game. I decided to get ahold of this for my partner on her MacBook Air via steam. I can’t seem to access the in-game menu. ESC isn’t working. Nothing happens. I’ve tried uninstalling/reinstalling. Etc. I think I’m missing something.

[manic parcel]

Did you try restarting the computer? And do other keybinds work (such as E to interact?)

[orchid sage]

hi everyone,
When trying to run my dedicated server (Sonoma 14.6.1 ), get the following error:
“Valheim” will damage your computer. You should move it to the Bin.

Has anyone know how to fix it?

[silent folio]

uninstall then re install?

[orchid sage]

didn't help

[silent folio]

where did you un install it from

[orchid sage]

I used steam to uninstall/install dedicated server

[silent folio]

i dont think it deletes the whole files is there like a controle panel in mac?

[orchid sage]

I have removed directory 'Valheim dedicated server' via Finder and also removed from Bin. after that installed from Steam, issue still persists

[silent folio]

did you click move to bin?

[orchid sage]

system doesn't 'like' Valheim file

[orchid sage]

yes

[silent folio]

any steam or mac updates?

[orchid sage]

no, I have latest Steam/mac(Sonoma 14.6.1) version

[silent folio]

does any other server work or a specific server?

[orchid sage]

it worked before Monday

I can't launch any dedicated server, because 'Valheim' file is required for this and system doesn't allow to run it

[silent folio]

did you delete the valheim file?

and re install it?

[orchid sage]

yes, it didn't help

[silent folio]

id try copying my important files in a hard drive and format my pc

but theres probably a better solution

[orchid sage]

well, it's very extreme step 🙂

[silent folio]

did u delete steam and restart?

idk if that would work but

id give it a try

[pallid pike]

are you installing it via Steam AND launching it via Steam?

[orchid sage]

yes, I have installed dedicated server from Steam but launching it from terminal

[pallid pike]

i bet trying to launch it from terminal is the problem

your terminal session may not have privileges to launch it

based on the mac security model

is there a way to create a Steam shortcut, and change the launch paramaters maybe? I think you really want to launch it via the Steam app

i quick google search, i found this guide: https://www.valheimgame.com/support/a-guide-to-dedicated-servers/

maybe read and follow that

[orchid sage]

i used terminal before and it worked, problem started on monday

[pallid pike]

oh, ignore that link. that's not macos

[silent folio]

did you do anything different from casual launching on monday?

[orchid sage]

no, it was first that I did after turning on my mac - launching server

[silent folio]

theres something like this on mac?

[orchid sage]

I have checked on other mac - same error
also, I have created post on reddit and some guy wrote he has same issue

[silent folio]

maybe its with mac then

you can try xbox

[orchid sage]

no, on mac, you can simply delete app

[silent folio]

the guy from reddit using steam too?

[orchid sage]

I don't know

[silent folio]

you got xbox gamepass?

try launching on xbox if you got it

[orchid sage]

no, I don't have xbox 😦

[silent folio]

idk any other solve than a format or trying xbox

i hope you can find a solution

[solemn cypress]

To use the valheim dedicated server app, you have to configure (edit via text editor) start_server.command file and then run that file

The file is located one step back in the directory pathway compared to where you are in your screenshot

[orchid sage]

yes, that's a way I'm launching my server and it worked before. The error dialog started to appear from Monday

[turbid thorn]

@orchid sage can you share your command line? Or if using the script, the script's command line

And are you using any gaming controllers or drawing devices that require a 3rd-party driver?

Leave out any pound-sign/hash mark comments cause the mods' Discord bot thinks those are evil for some reason! 😦

[orchid sage]

no, I'm not using any extra devices except keyboard and mouse

I was able to fix this issue by allowing my terminal to run unsecured apps (System Preferences > Security and Privacy > Privacy).
So now it works 🎉

I guess there is some issue with 'Valheim' file signing.

[turbid thorn]

I'm curious what triggered it for you all of a sudden, though, @orchid sage. That binary has not been signed or notarized from the beginning as far as I know. It uses ad-hoc signing to protect against it having been modified, and if breaking that triggered your message, it could actually be worrisome.

If you happen to have the codesign tool installed (e.g. from Xcode, or Xcode command line tools, or other Apple toolchains), try doing this:

codesign -dvvv "$HOME/Library/Application Support/Steam/SteamApps/common/Valheim dedicated server/valheim_server/Valheim"

On the main public branch, it should have a CD hash of 2fd17272c760b21773458cb83040309a31cde8cd matching one of the candidate CD hashes in that output (so you should see string more than once).

[orchid sage]

Executable=/Users/user/Games/SteamLibrary/steamapps/common/Valheim dedicated server/valheim_server/Valheim
Identifier=UnityPlayer-5555494438bd9e3c45ca3a1b8e421418f58f0ee5
Format=Mach-O universal (x86_64 arm64)
CodeDirectory v=20100 size=581 flags=0x2(adhoc) hashes=13+2 location=embedded
Hash type=sha256 size=32
CandidateCDHash sha256=682e2f94f2dd351190c1cc0aff075b80c9789f7a
CandidateCDHashFull sha256=682e2f94f2dd351190c1cc0aff075b80c9789f7a91c101ccd6ec877e1d74cbd9
Hash choices=sha256
CMSDigest=682e2f94f2dd351190c1cc0aff075b80c9789f7a91c101ccd6ec877e1d74cbd9
CMSDigestType=2
CDHash=682e2f94f2dd351190c1cc0aff075b80c9789f7a
Signature=adhoc
Info.plist=not bound
TeamIdentifier=not set
Sealed Resources=none
Internal requirements count=0 size=12```

@turbid thorn CDHash is different

[turbid thorn]

Thanks! Weird. Are you on the public-test beta branch for dedicated server? Can you also do:

xattr -l "$HOME/Library/Application Support/Steam/SteamApps/common/Valheim dedicated server/valheim_server/Valheim"

and verify it's blank?

[orchid sage]

as far as I know, I'm not on public-test. I have installed it via Steam

[orchid sage]

yes, it's blank

can it be that certificate used for signing has been expired/revoked?

[turbid thorn]

OK, cool. 682e2f94f2dd351190c1cc0aff075b80c9789f7a is actually fine. I was looking at the x86_64 code dir, and yours is on arm64. Sorry about that. That leaves me at "I don't know". 🙂

[turbid thorn]

@orchid sage if you're still awake, if you had hit the "Move to Bin" button on one of those attempts, can you open "$HOME/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports" and there may be a report from that timeframe. You should be able to open it in a text editor or the Console app default and it could give you a hint as to the signature that Apple XProtect didn't like.

[orchid sage]

no, there are no any logs there.

I have found the following records in Console app when trying to launch dedicated server

com.apple.securityd    debug    09:55:46.386882+0300    syspolicyd    open(/Users/user/Games/SteamLibrary/steamapps/common/Valheim dedicated server/valheim_server/Valheim,0x0,0x1b6) = 19
com.apple.securityd    debug    09:55:46.387047+0300    syspolicyd    637 signing bytes in 3 blob(s) from /Users/user/Games/SteamLibrary/steamapps/common/Valheim dedicated server/valheim_server/Valheim(arm64)
    default    09:55:54.459486+0300    kernel    ASP: Security policy would not allow process: 1257, /Users/user/Games/SteamLibrary/steamapps/common/Valheim dedicated server/valheim_server/Valheim

but, if allow unsecured apps in terminal, there are these records:

the interesting one is this one, I guess:

[turbid thorn]

Thanks for sharing your details, @orchid sage! Still curious why it suddenly started enforcing in your case, as the adhoc-signed assets have been out for a month+. CC @manic parcel

[orchid sage]

I dunno, it worked perfect before this Monday for a long time

[manic parcel]

Thanks for bringing this to my attention! I don't think this is something you can affect as a user, unfortunately. This is something we need to fix behind the scenes.

[manic parcel]

Btw @orchid sage, what macOS version are you running?

[orchid sage]

mac os sonoma 14.6.1

[manic parcel]

Ok cool thanks 🙂 Could be wrong but my current theory is that it's related to the 14.6.1 update.

[orchid sage]

the issue started on 14.6. I decided to upgrade to 14.6.1 but it didn't help

[manic parcel]

🤔 That's good information, thank you!

[orchid sage]

on my other mac with sonoma 14.5 it doesn't work too

[manic parcel]

Hm okay, so maybe it's not that. It used to work for me on 14.5.

[orchid sage]

it worked for me also, but stoped on Monday

[turbid thorn]

I wish I could reproduce. I'm on Sonoma 14.5 (x86_64) and I'm able to run the server fine even if I download and start in trust-App-store-sigs-only mode. My system updated to XProtectPayload 141 on August 7th. As far as I can tell, Steam doesn't add quarantine xattrs to the dirs or files on download, which might explain why they aren't checked immediately.

Gatekeeper, XProtect, and the whole Apple security system works in mysterious ways. My best guess is one of them decided to act.

Hopefully it's just a matter of the ad hoc signature not being trusted (vs XProtect malware signature hit or an ad hoc CDhash breaking from contents modified). If that's all it is, signing (and notarizing) the exe and dylibs with a Developer ID cert should be enough.

Best of luck

[manic parcel]

Hey there! To the best of my knowledge this recently started happening on ARM based macs. Presumably Gatekeeper (or some other system) got updated to recognize Unity dedicated server builds (or some accompanying dylib) as malware or unsafe in some way. I think this is the case since even brand new, blank Unity projects cause the same issue to appear on ARM based macs. Currently reaching out to our contacts at Unity & Apple to see if we can fix this somehow!

[turbid thorn]

Makes sense given I couldn't reproduce on x86_64. Thanks for the update. If Unity auto-signs the built assets ad hoc, it might accidentally be modifying them afterwards on the arm64 build.

One test might be to recursively re-sign the problematic bin+libs manually with codesign afterwards, can use the hyphen developer ID to make it ad hoc like Unity seems to. If those work, could mean it's the integrity check failing instead of the malware check.

[manic parcel]

Ah, yeah, good idea! Just tried that and re-signing the binary, even with a Apple Development cert seems to have done the trick. It also worked for the actual Valheim executable.

[turbid thorn]

Does the simple blank Unity test case include PlayFab Party? Looking at the ad hoc signed copy downloaded from Steam, verifying the x86_64 code works but…

% codesign -vvvv --arch arm64 PlugIns/PlayFabPartyMacOS.bundle                                                                                     PlugIns/PlayFabPartyMacOS.bundle: code has no resources but signature indicates they must be present

[sly fiber]

Valheim stopped working for me today since updating to Sonoma 14.6.1 .. 😦
It was working fine until yesterday. Macbook Pro M1. I tried reinstalling Valheim, Steam, updating, command lines etc. and nothing seems to work. It gets stuck on the Valheim logo upon starting, it beachballs for a while then it shuts down.

[sly fiber]

Hey Tim I used to play your mac ported version for a while - excellent work you did there! I was hoping the devs would have just hired you 🙂 Seriously you did wonders for us with macs who love Valheim

[turbid thorn]

Are you on Steam version or Apple App Store?

And how are you launching it?

[sly fiber]

Steam version. I was launching it both from desktop shortcut and from Steam.

It now works again. The issue seems to have been somehow coming from the Steam client. It gave me an error upon launching steam, I then restarted it and it then worked.

[turbid thorn]

Cool. Let us know if you see again. The Steam version does require Steam to be running when it starts up, and running at least long enough for its internal API service to start. I would imagine the desktop shortcut version launches Steam if its not running, but I've not tried that.

Every once in a while, you'll run up against a Steam system maintenance or unexpected outage outside of your control.

[vague pollen]

Hello, I just purchased the game today and am experiencing an issue. I was playing when the graphics started to sputter so I force closed the game, now I can't even load the menu as it just loads into a black screen. I'm using a MacBook Pro with a M1 Pro processor and 16gb of RAM. I'm also using the version of Valheim purchased from the App Store.

[turbid thorn]

It may have overheated. Have you tried a full shutdown (i.e. Apple menu, Shut down…), then power on?

[vague pollen]

Yeah, I checked all my system temperatures and they all seem to be at the normal operating levels. I also turned the fans on maximum and still nothing unfortunately.

[turbid thorn]

You can also check the Player.log from one these sessions to see if there's anything obvious you can gleam from it. If there's a chance your character or world files got corrupt from that force-close incident, you can try a fresh start without those. I don't have the App Store version, but my guess is the worlds_local and characters dirs would be found in ~/Application Support/IronGate/Valheim/. You would move those out temporarily, and bring them back one-by-one if things worked.

If it's one of the mainboard chips that's overheated, it can take several minutes of off time to recover. Outside of that, my next recommendation is to run Apple Diagnostics, which will check for stuck fan issues and other things that aren't immediately obvious from the main OS:
https://support.apple.com/en-us/102550

[vague pollen]

Unfortunately I still have the same result even after letting it sit for a few hours and removing those files. The player.log file didn’t show anything that immediately jumped out at me either unfortunately. The diagnostic shows that there’s no issues with the laptop either.

Maybe it’s an issue with the App Store version, I purchased the game through there because I got excited when I saw it was finally available on Mac and figured I’d play it since I haven’t played any games in years.

I did get this to load earlier, but I wasn’t able to press anything and it looked terrible.

I guess it’s a sign to continue my trend of not playing games anymore 😂

[solemn cypress]

Do you have any other games in your library that runs fine?

[vague pollen]

No other games that I play, but I’ll go ahead and download one when I get back home. I primarily use my laptop for school and work.

[hard fog]

do you meet the minimum requirements for valheim?

[vague pollen]

Yes, my MacBook Pro is above the recommended requirements for Valheim. I downloaded and tried to play a different game (WoW) and encountered the same issue. Games will load to where I can hear the music but then the screen freezes, eventually turning black forcing me to hard reset my laptop. The part that I can’t seem to figure out is that I was playing the game perfectly fine for about 6 hours and now I can’t load any games. I only ever used my laptop to write papers in school, browse the internet and create spreadsheets.

Any pointers on what I might possibly be able to do? Or does it sound like hardware failure?

[hard fog]

I am not to familuar with Mac and hardware failiures. but yours is a imac or a laptop? or a desktop?
how old is it and which version?

[vague pollen]

It’s a 2021 MacBook Pro laptop with the Apple silicon M1 Pro, 16gb of memory and 1TB SSD storage.

[latent epoch]

Afaik, controlling fan speed isn’t a native function of macOS, what third party programs are you installing / running ? Have you previously disabled System Integrity Protection to install / modify any settings? If it’s an issue persisting across restarts and in multiple games, you’re looking at system corruption or a hardware issue… if Apple Diagnostics doesn’t find an issue, I’d start with creating a new user account with a fresh home directory… try launching the game when logged in as that user (be sure to sign out of your real account, so don’t use fast user switching). If that still shows issues, I’d try an OS reinstall and do not restore any backups before testing a game again.

[vague pollen]

I was using iStat menus for fan control. I’ll go ahead and try a new user account and find out if it’s a hardware issue. I suppose I found out why everyone always talked crap about gaming on Macs lol.

[pallid pike]

i'm gaming on my m1 mac laptop with no issues. i also don't try to use anything to control the fan, and let macOS do its thing

[vague pollen]

I just tried to open the game under a new user account with no luck, it just loads into a black screen. Next step will be to reinstall the OS. I’m just baffled how I was able to play for a few hours without any issues and now nothings working.

[pallid pike]

maybe try this to see if there are hw problems? https://support.apple.com/en-us/102550

[vague pollen]

I ran that already and fortunately (but unfortunately), it didn’t find any issues with any of the hardware.

[pallid pike]

I would certainly try to get as close as possible to a vanilla macOS system. Make sure as little as possible is running in the background. Disable any tweaking. Make sure you're up to date. All the standard stuff you probably already tried.

[vague pollen]

That’s my next step, I probably need to do a fresh install but I just started this school semester so I’m probably better off not doing anything until I can afford time to fix any problems that might arise from that. Currently it’s only affecting my ability to play games.

[pallid pike]

Does this laptop have any software management from the school?

Like a management profile

[vague pollen]

No, everything is done online through a canvas shell. I’ve never had to download anything for a proctored exam.

It’s also my personal laptop I purchased, so there’s no connection to the school fortunately lol.

[pallid pike]

macOS generally never needs an OS re install.

I suppose if you are not confident you can find anything weird running, it's an option.

But it's a nuclear option

[vague pollen]

That’s what I figured and is also partially why I switched from windows OS over to Mac.

[pallid pike]

There is a wipe option in system settings you can use if necessary

[vague pollen]

I couldn’t find anything weird running. The issue is highly baffling to me.

[pallid pike]

At least it's easy

[vague pollen]

I could give that a go

[pallid pike]

Then start with just steam and valheim, first apps. 😉

[vague pollen]

The only semi-startling things I can find is that my hardware temps were above normal when everything went haywire. my GPU temp was 195F, memory 169F, and the CPU average was 179F.

Still nothing that should fry the hardware.

[pallid pike]

Valheim very often kicks my fans into overdrive. M1Max MacBook Pro.

I haven't actually looked at the temps

[vague pollen]

Maybe that’s my problem, I got excited when I saw Valheim on the App Store and bought it before realizing I could get it on steam. Either way, that really shouldn’t matter lol.

[pallid pike]

It shouldn't matter, no. I chose steam for multi platform.

There might be a slightly different update cycle at worst.

Depending on how apps get approved.

[vague pollen]

My fans definitely kicked on and the hardware would throttle everything before allowing anything to burn up.

[pallid pike]

It's annoying, but fans working hard on this is normal. What laptop you have?

[vague pollen]

That’s what I was figuring. I’m truly baffled at what’s going on, whenever I figure it out I’ll definitely have to report back because I can’t find anything mimicking my problem anywhere.

I have a 2021 MacBook Pro M1 Pro with 16gb and a 1TB ssd.

Running Sonoma 14.6.1. I wish I would’ve installed the MacOs 15 beta to have that to blame it on lmao.

[pallid pike]

lol yeah better you're on GM

[hard fog]

more people have mentioned problems with Sonoma 14.6.1

[pallid pike]

hmm. i'm on 14.5 on one laptop, 14.6 on another. i'll test 14.6.1 on my work laptop when i get a second.

[hard fog]

#mac-bugs-discussion message

[pallid pike]

yeah, i remember seeing that. i haven't done a server only instance yet.

i'll try a few different permutations. first verify server functionality on 14.6. Then try server on 14.5 before upgrading

[pallid pike]

okay, 14.5, Steam, downloaded dedicated server, ran the sh script, and get that warning.

now I'm going to upgrade to 14.6.1, since i'm long overdue

[pallid pike]

after upgrade, no change

running the normal valheim still works properly

runs properly when i go into settings, privacy, developer tools, and allow terminal to run unisgned app

But I'm assuming this app should be signed properly

it appears to be an adhoc cert, as reported by the codesign utility:

Executable=/Users/foo/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Valheim dedicated server/valheim_server/Valheim
Identifier=UnityPlayer-5555494438bd9e3c45ca3a1b8e421418f58f0ee5
Format=Mach-O universal (x86_64 arm64)
CodeDirectory v=20100 size=581 flags=0x2(adhoc) hashes=13+2 location=embedded
VersionPlatform=1
VersionMin=720896
VersionSDK=721152
Hash type=sha256 size=32
CandidateCDHash sha256=682e2f94f2dd351190c1cc0aff075b80c9789f7a
CandidateCDHashFull sha256=682e2f94f2dd351190c1cc0aff075b80c9789f7a91c101ccd6ec877e1d74cbd9
Hash choices=sha256
CMSDigest=682e2f94f2dd351190c1cc0aff075b80c9789f7a91c101ccd6ec877e1d74cbd9
CMSDigestType=2
Page size=4096
CDHash=682e2f94f2dd351190c1cc0aff075b80c9789f7a
Signature=adhoc
Info.plist=not bound
TeamIdentifier=not set
Sealed Resources=none
Internal requirements count=0 size=12```

course the normal valheim.app shows up as "adhoc" also, so maybe i don't know what I'm reading

but other parts of valheim.app signature are very different. 🤷 i'm not a macOS developer

[hard fog]

just restarting the Steam client seem to have solved it for someone else 🤔

[pallid pike]

i can also test on my 14.6 laptop later

[vague pollen]

Dang, so it could be a problem with 14.6.1? Want me to attempt upgrading to the 15.0 beta and seeing if it makes any difference? I’d only assume it would create more instability but I’ll try it if you’d like me to.

[pallid pike]

anecdotally, i had no problem starting the game, or dedicated server, when i updated to 14.6.1

dedicated server required giving terminal permission to run unsigned apps

i'm trying dedicated server on 14.6 and then seeing if just restarting steam helps

installed dedicated on 14.6, same error about unsafe Valheim. Now trying to restart Steam to see if it helps at all

(doubt it however)

same error trying to start valheim dedicated via the sh script. will require enabling running unsigned apps in terminal, i'm sure

not going to do that tonight however, and i'm leaving this particular laptop on 14.6 (even though the other one appears to run valheim find on 14.6.1)

[manic parcel]

Valheim dedicated server is currently broken on Apple silicon devices on Steam. We know how to fix it but there's an external blocker at the moment so not sure how long it will take to fix.

[hard fog]

if you could. that would be amazing

but I can't force you to try it

[vague pollen]

I’ll go ahead and do it, no loss for me if it doesn’t work right? lol

[hard fog]

I hope it just works and don't give you additional headaces 🥲

[vague pollen]

Me too, I’ll definitely let you know when I’m able to do it. I probably won’t be able to until later on today.

[pallid pike]

So fyi I started valheim for the first time since latest update on 14.6. It's currently beach balling at the Valheim title screen. I'm just letting it run to see what happens.

And crashed.

Trying again. Currently at same screen, no beach balling yet, but still hanging here.

I'm assuming maybe some first launch since update activities are going on, though I haven't gotten to my world yet.

And now there's the beach ball.

crashed again. hmm

are there logs I can look at somewhere?

found the logs, going to try again

whatever the defualt log level is, not really anything interesting in Player.log so far, and still hanging at the same loading screen

i'm going to reboot

[hard fog]

oh I love player.log files

[pallid pike]

okay, so after a reboot i got to the menu screen. trying to start my world now.

and i'm in finally. that was a little scary.

[vague pollen]

Here goes nothing

[hard fog]

https://tenor.com/view/jon-stewart-eat-eating-munch-munching-gif-18732682

[vague pollen]

Mine too lol

[vague pollen]

And it’s a no go. Beach ball into a black screen with the menu music 😩

[pallid pike]

that's the same thing you saw in 14.6.1 ?

[vague pollen]

Yup

[pallid pike]

steam or app store?

[vague pollen]

App Store

I’d try it on steam but I don’t want to buy it twice lol

[pallid pike]

yeah, i get it. i'm on Steam. What model laptop?

[vague pollen]

Should have 0 issues running Valheim.

[pallid pike]

yeah

it stays beach balling while the screen is black, and the menu music is playing?

[vague pollen]

The beach ball turns into the sword cursor and I can move it around

[pallid pike]

oh, interesting. so it recovers, but still black scren with cursor.

[vague pollen]

But I have to force close the game before I have to hard reset the laptop

[pallid pike]

nothing interesting in Player.log?

[vague pollen]

It’s mind boggling bro

Nope, not that I could see. Want me to send it over?

[pallid pike]

sure, you could DM it to me

[vague pollen]

Just sent it over to @pallid pike and @hard fog

[pallid pike]

yeah, nothing there jumps out at me. granted, i'm not a developer

[hard fog]

lemme see...

I see a few errors. but nothing that should prevent you 🤔

[vague pollen]

That’s what I figured, I guess I’m not meant to play it lmao. Maybe I’ll get it on my Xbox at some point.

It does sound like some form of hardware failure, but there’s no other indications that that’s what the problem is. Which only makes it more confusing.

[hard fog]

no no. we will fix it 🙂

Early Access problems and all

[vague pollen]

Sounds good. Just let me know if there’s anything that you want me to assist with or any other information you need

[hard fog]

of course 🙂

[vague pollen]

If it makes any difference, I know that it initially crashed when I started to see water. I know that water is pretty graphic intensive

I was collecting Flint for my first time lol

[hard fog]

yeah but.. shouldn't really be a problem

[manic parcel]

So I looked at the logs I got from smiffe and can't really see any issues there. It's possible that it's the OS killing the process. In that case it would be helpful for us to see the crash logs generated by that, which you can find in the Console app under crash reports.

[vague pollen]

Let me take a look when I get a minute, I’ll send them over

[compact mountain]

folsk, any of you have the issue on mac that you see no servers and also cannot directly connect via IP?

[solemn cypress]

Are you accessing internet from IPv6 only network?

Try to remain in the community servers tab for 2 min to see if any servers will pop up

[turbid thorn]

If this was the App Store version, it might be resolved now: https://status.playfab.com/incidents/1jgtrx3s371s

[latent epoch]

You mention here having the same issue with WoW as you do in Valheim, so I don’t think the IronGate crew will be able to fix this for you.

If you’ve got issues due to conflicting software or OS corruption, then you really need to wipe the Mac back to factory state and reinstall. An OS update (even to a new revision like Sequoia) is just going to keep your existing software and settings … which means you just copy the problem over.

As for being graphically intensive… the game runs on MacBook Airs … it’s not too taxing for a Pro.

[ancient prawn]

Crash when pressing Esc.
Hi all, I am playing on Mac (obviously) and using the Steam client. Is this the best channel? I have found out that all my crashes relate to pressing Esc (on a external keyboard if that matters). I'd like to help to get this issue resolved. Let me know what I can do.

[alpine pagoda]

Try another keyboard and see if the problem is tied to that keyboard or esc on any keyboard.
Other things to try: Update all the drivers you can, unplug keyboard for a minute or two and plug in again, use another usb port, if you can put macro's on the keyboard make sure there are none tied to the esc key.

[ancient prawn]

It is not always, I should have noted that. But I'll play withouth keyboard next time.

[alpine pagoda]

Years ago I had a keyboard that had a similar issue and it only manifested itself after having the computer on for a certain amount of time, the keyboard had some electrical buildup around certain seldom used keys and when they were pressed it short-circuited the keyboard and crashed whatever I was doing and sometimes even made my computer freeze.
Best case was unplugging keyboard waiting for a minute or two and plug it back in and I could go ahead for a while again, worst case a reboot was needed.

[solemn cypress]

Check if your FPS is properly capped to 60 FPS when summoning pause menu.
You enable Steam FPS overlay in the Steam general setting → In game section, or summon Valheim performance menu if you have F2 key on the keyboard.
After you crash and before you open the game again, grab a player.log file from /your_username/Library/Application Support/IronGate/Valheim/

[pallid socket]

I started a game on the Mac App Store version, I’m now thinking of trying mods which seem to be only PC. I do have a steam pc version, how can I copy over my single player game and character?

[solemn cypress]

Launch Valheim on Steam once first, then copy characters_local and worlds_local folders from: ~/Library/Containers/Valheim/Data/Library/Application Support/com.coffeestain.valheim
and paste them into the following folder:
~/Library/Application Support/Iron gate/Valheim

[pallid socket]

[solemn cypress]

Mind you, your saves will only be local that way. If you want to get Steam Cloud involved in backing up your saves on their servers, after you complete the above steps, you will have to launch the game on Steam, and then move your character and world save (+ backups if you want) via the in-game manage saves menu from Local to Cloud via moves saves button.

[latent epoch]

Has anyone tried symlinking the directories so that both versions share the same files ? Then Steam should take care of syncing it all?

I believe consolidation of these folders was being considered for a future version.

[solemn cypress]

Have you been able to test some other game yet?
Wave simulation in Valheim is indeed heavy on the GPU, so wouldn't be surprised that CPU is getting overworked.
Do you have a .plist editor by any chance?
You could at least attmpet to restore Valheim setting to default by deleting com.coffeestain.valheim.plist located at:
~/Library/Containers/Valheim/Data/Library/Preferences/

[solemn cypress]

Only save locations for local saves files (those that don't sync with Steam Cloud) is being considered.
Files that get labelled as eligible for Steam Cloud sync must be flagged via Steam API though the game, are have a different disk location even on Linux/Windows compared to local saves files on those OS.
The question I have is, why would someone want to play on AppStore if they already have the app on Steam as well, if they care about their saves being in the cloud?

[latent epoch]

Ah, makes sense.

[spare vault]

sorry to bother you all but just wandering if there is an update on malware error on dedicated server on macos sonoma 14.6.1?

[manic parcel]

Working on a fix for it right now, should hopefully be out pretty soon!

[turbid thorn]

I have a potential quick workaround if you'd be interested to try it.

[turbid thorn]

• This modifies the resources delivered by Steam. The changes will be overwritten on any future update or re-install of the dedicated server from Steam.
• This is a community tip. I don't work for Iron Gate, their contractors, or publishers. It may not work and may not follow the developer's intentions.

In a terminal:
1.

cd "$HOME/Library/Application Support/Steam/SteamApps/common/Valheim dedicated server/valheim_server/PlugIns"

2. Verify the PlayFab Party plugin fails arm64 signature check:

codesign -vvvv --arch arm64 PlayFabPartyMacOS.bundle

You should see an error like "code has no resources but signature indicates they must be present".
3. Replace the broken ad-hoc signature with a new one:

codesign -s - -f PlayFabPartyMacOS.bundle

4. Verify plugin passes arm64 signature check:

codesign -vvvv --arch arm64 PlayFabPartyMacOS.bundle

[pallid pike]

if this works, this is better than the other solution of going into privacy and just allowing Terminal.app to run unsigned apps

[turbid thorn]

Hopefully it does the trick. The server delivered through Steam is currently only ad-hoc signed, which doesn't authenticate the developer or publisher. This workaround follows that same signature pattern but it ought to allow binary integrity checks to pass where they previously may have failed.

[spare vault]

ok will try but can wait as my friends are currently very busy. thank you for the very quick update and reply.

[foggy shadow]

Hi, I just freshly installed this on a mac pro 2019, I have got a weird thing at launch, complaining about NullReferenceException: The WorldGenerator instance was null a bunch of times

Not too sure what I'm doing wrong here, I get all the way up to the title screen (where Valheim is written, before the menu), and then the loader spins for a while in the bottom right and then I get knocked back to desktop

[hard fog]

Hm.. what OS version are you on?

do you have valheim on steam for mac?

you might need to have steam logged in / running in the background

[solemn cypress]

Best to restart your Mac, your Steam app isn't functioning properly.

[foggy shadow]

I do, I launch it through the steam app

[foggy shadow]

Will do. I'll try restarting the steam app first

[hard fog]

seems like your steam app isn't connecting as it should

[foggy shadow]

It did take a reboot, for whatever reason, but I could fire up the game correctly afterwards! 🎉 Thanks!

[hard fog]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1045672982300852230/1209043657034829824/UltraNod.gif

[manic parcel]

The issue with launching the dedicated server on steam has been fixed in a new update now 🙂

[hard fog]

https://tenor.com/view/that-shits-dingo-viva-la-dirt-league-catchphrase-gif-27349731

[pallid pike]

could you share root cause and fix?

[hard fog]

cause was a problem. and fix is to update 🫡

https://valheim.com/news/patch-0-218-21-hotfix

[pallid pike]

lol you know what i mean. it's fine that you don't want to share. But i'm just interested in the actual technical details. <insert keep your secrets frodo meme>

Root cause: We had a REAL good party the night before we shipped, and the intern thought they could just adhoc sign the binary. We were all hung over and no one noticed.

[hard fog]

well... Love is a hired person so can't really get into details 😄

[pallid pike]

Fix: We fired the intern, who shamed his viking ancestors. And then we did the proper signing, and pushed the new release. We hired a new intern who can handle his mead.

[hard fog]

no interns allowed in the office anymore 🫡

[pallid pike]

lol

[hard fog]

we put them on parkinglot duties

[pallid pike]

all good. as a mac gamer, i'm super happy to see the macOS support

there are dozens of us

[hard fog]

please spread the word we fixed the issue for mac ^^

[turbid thorn]

FWIW, the adhoc nature of the prior signatures isn't a huge issue for a Steam-delivered game. I don't blame any game dev or publisher for doing it. A cert that authentically identifies the developer or publisher is certainly better, though, and it looks like we have that now. I won't flood this chat with code-signing details, but feel free to DM if you want to talk shop

[manic parcel]

Sure, I think the details here are general enough where I can share - basically we just let the server and client on steam be left unsigned / ad hoc signed (not for the App Store version though, that one is properly signed since, well, it has to be, which is why it did not have this problem). Lots of games on Steam are unsigned and work just fine.

I think the issue (don't know for sure that this is it) was that the server isn't the typical app bundle structure. So this looks to be a behaviour from Apple where if many users open a similar unsigned binary, it is flagged as potentially being malicious. It won't be flagged if it's correctly signed AND notarized. (The "fun-fact" here is that we actually broke dedicated servers on Mac for ALL Unity games, at least those made with the same version as us - I tried to just make a dedicated server from a blank project and even that got the same warning, haha)

Anyway, games on Steam should be both signed notarized, they just happen to allow un-notarized games for now. So the fix was to just... sign and notarize the server (and the app). This took a bit longer to fix than it should've for reasons outside of our control, and I do apologize that it took so long 😅

[hard fog]

so 2:nd time Valheim dedicated server breaks something 🤔
(We broke steam servers aswell back in the days)

internet isn't ready for the valheim servers 😄

[turbid thorn]

Out of curiosity, did the blank project have the PlayFab Party plugin bundle?

[manic parcel]

Nope! Nothing in there, no code, no plugins

[turbid thorn]

Interesting, thanks for sharing and for the fix

[short bear]

Good morning, maybe I should ask here. @hard fog, if you're available I would greatly appreciate your help with this. Thanks a lot!

The latest bug fix release of Steam Valheim for Mac seems to be no longer capable of running external libraries, as libdoorstop.dylib seems to be not loading anymore.

Due to that, BepInEx is of course no longer working.

If I go back one release, it starts working again.

Must be Mac specific, or a we would have seen a storm in the forums. 😉

[solemn cypress]

There are some code sign issues for the client now, after the latest update that fixed the dedicated server app, so you Mac is probably flagging Valheim as an unsafe app
Check in Privacy & Security

[tender badger]

@short bear have the same or similar issue - can't run valheim on mac (with m3 max) installed via steam - "app is broken". before i reinstalled my mac it works.

[short bear]

Oh, Valheim works.

[hard fog]

could possibly be the grand old "validate" files files, where Mac version don't automaticly update the files 🤔

[short bear]

That's not the problem.

[solemn cypress]

See my comment above yours.

[short bear]

It looks like it's updated. though.

[hard fog]

but yeah. everytime we update valheim, we break mods

[short bear]

And if I go back one version, it will works.

😄

[hard fog]

and breaking Bepinex is far from Mac exlucive 😄

we do it every time

not purposly, but it just breaks

[short bear]

But it still works for the other platforms.

Or we would have a storm in the forums.

😄

[hard fog]

it might work

they just don't know what broke yet 😅

and this fix didn't change so much files for other versions since Mac was the place we had to fiddle with

[short bear]

Well, here it won't even load BepInEx.

[hard fog]

just wait for bepinex update 🙂

[short bear]

Well, I doubt they'll update it anytime soon, as it is working for Windows. 😛

[tender badger]

oh damn - yes, that works - sorry, maybe overseen the popup for security blockings

[short bear]

Here it isn't even loaded.

It's not even running.

[hard fog]

not sure yet how to quick-fix it on mac. but for steam on windows. you just enable/disable bepinex in the doorstop.ini file 🤔

[short bear]

Ok, I'll check that.

I don't have a doorstop.ini file, I might have to create one.

[hard fog]

either hidden or it's called something else on mac

[short bear]

I don't use the standard BepInEx for Valheim from ThunderStore.

I had to roll my own for the Mac.

But thank you all again for trying to help! I really appreciate it.

👍

[solemn cypress]

Try switching back to default-old version of Valheim in Valheim Steam library properties → BETA - default-old

[short bear]

Yes, that works. I tried that.

Adding doorstop.ini doesn't help. 😛

Not that there's much in it.

Again, Valheim doesn't even seem to load doorstop.

[hard fog]

might to reinstall / re-add it since we did things with files

[short bear]

Ok, I'll try that again. Not that I haven't already done that. 😉

[solemn cypress]

I had problems with Steam just installing and un-installing Valheim because Mac was flagging it as unsafe app, so probably the same issue.

[short bear]

I didn't have that problem.

[manic parcel]

Looking into this. The latest version of valheim on mac is both signed and notarized which may screw up the loading of mods since they would no longer have the same signature as the main app.

[solemn cypress]

The problem didn't happen every time. Mac reports didn't pop up every time either.

[short bear]

Thanks!

@manic parcel

...uninstalling... closing down Steam... opening it up again... reinstalling...

Aha! "Valheim is defective! Throw it away""

Or something to that effect. 😉

Command-right click does the trick...

[solemn cypress]

For mods, adding Valheim to "app management" list might help? (allow the applications below to update or delete other applications)

[short bear]

Ok, still doesn't work.

It's not even loading doorstop.

Going back one version, and it starts working again. So it must definitely something with Valheim itself. It's not Steam or the Mac or something.

[manic parcel]

Yeah, that would make sense since it's only the latest version of valheim that is signed. Previous versions were unsigned (ad-hoc signed) so I'm betting it's due to this.

[short bear]

Aha! Thanks! That would explain it. The App Store version never has worked with mods either.

Because it probably HAS to be signed in order for it to be allowed on the App Store.

[manic parcel]

Correct!

[short bear]

Thank you for confirming this. So, I guess I have to add a note to my Mac modding guide, that mods currently don't work or they have to go back one version.

Really appreciate the developer support here. One more reason to love Valheim. 👍

[manic parcel]

Yeah, unfortunately... I am looking into how to fix this so hopefully this is just a temporary hickup in the modding world for mac users.

[short bear]

Hey, it is what it is. I know you guys are busy working on content for Valheim, and that mods are the last thing on your mind right now. 😉 Even better that you actually support the modding community. I always cringe when I read another post from somebody writing that you guys actually try to break mods intentionally. 🙄

[hard fog]

breaking mods intentionally wouldn't be nice

we are all gamers

and we like to game

[short bear]

Yeah, some of these people are... a bit too passionate, one might say.

[hard fog]

I know 🙂

speak daily to people who might not like everything we do

usually just talking resolves any missunderstandings

[short bear]

Absolutely!

[alpine pagoda]

If not you have a nice ban hammer and THE POWER to use it.

[short bear]

Well, that should be a last resort, IMHO.

Make them see reason is always a better approach. 🙂

[alpine pagoda]

Indeed but some just won't see reason and act like trolls and trolls need to be stabbed or at least bonked on the head with a hammer.

[short bear]

That is unfortunately sometimes true.

[alpine pagoda]

It has been a good long while though since I've seen drama unfold here.
Though we should take this to general or general2 (public test) before it leads to drama because we are using a wrong channel.

[short bear]

😄

[hard fog]

can't really ban people from using the internet 🤔

[short bear]

hehe

[hard fog]

just talking solves 99% of the missunderstandings

[alpine pagoda]

You can ban them from some select places though.

[short bear]

👍 @hard fog

So, I'm outta here till next time I need to bug you guys again. Thanks again for the help and Cya! 👋

[alpine pagoda]

Why not stay a while and harken?

[turbid thorn]

@short bear are you on x86_64 or arm64 macOS?

[manic parcel]

So, we fixed one issue with the mac app on steam now, so the issue that macarbre showed should no longer happen. But I am curious if mod loading is still broken. (It probably is). Would you happen to be able to link this guide of yours @short bear?

[turbid thorn]

@manic parcel, BepInEx uses DYLD_INSERT_LIBRARIES to inject Unity Doorstop. I think you'll need to add the com.apple.security.cs.allow-dyld-environment-variables entitlement to the signing script. Happy to try out an alternate build on x86_64 macOS should you need a tester.

I don't think it will be easy to get arm64 working until someone volunteers a fix for https://github.com/MonoMod/MonoMod/issues/90, but running BepInEx-wrapped Valheim via Rosetta 2 might do the trick if the entitlement fix works.

[turbid thorn]

For the impatient and brave who want something now and understand what this script is doing:
https://gist.github.com/JustinTArthur/099b20df6b3d2a05663a7be3e1bb358d

[hard fog]

@sharp coyote don't use # to markup text

[sharp coyote]

I didn't?

[hard fog]

that's why your message got blocked 😅

[sharp coyote]

I copied and pasted some code within a code block, and inside the code had some #

maybe that's why?

Basically I've been trying to install Bepinex on my mac with a steam version of valheim. I did everything to the tee except when I got the point of running it for the first time so it can generate a config folder, it never ends up creating said folder

[turbid thorn]

@sharp coyote unless you've applied the workaround above, the current official Mac versions of Valheim don't load all of the required BepInEx components. I don't know if that's what's happening in your case, but a good chance. I recommend waiting for the next Valheim macOS patch release.

And yeah, when you post scripts, you unfortunately have to remove commented lines, including the shebang, lest the bots get mad

[hard fog]

@restive sigil yes it does 😄

to prevent this type of text

[restive sigil]

it does indeed! (just couldn't believe that would be the case 🤣 )

[hard fog]

it's discord fault we had to block it

else some text

would look

like this

[restive sigil]

yeah, sounds like something they should allow server owners to customize/block 🤔

[hard fog]

yeah.. but they don't

discord adds so many features. but don't set in any normal way to stop it

[sly raptor]

Has anyone run into the map button not working when playing with a controller? Every other button is fine but that one does nothing when pressed and I have no other way to view the map.

[pallid pike]

i play with xbox controller on mac, and i haven't run into that

[sly raptor]

Thank you for confirming it’s not a standard setting I missed in the notes.

[hard fog]

yes. more specificly, which controller do you use?

[sly raptor]

Xbox

[hard fog]

which model?

original? 360? series X? 1 series?

[sly raptor]

Series s..the one it came with.

[hard fog]

what happens if you swap between the diffrent controller layouts?

is it one specific layout that map is broken? or all of them?

[sly raptor]

All of them

[hard fog]

and it's only the map?

[sly raptor]

Yes, alt doesn’t work either to bring up chat

[hard fog]

do you play on xbox or game pass or steam?

[sly raptor]

I’m on steam, Mac OS

[hard fog]

Hm.. gotcha 🤔

it's midnight here so I can't get it tested atm. but I will write it up for testing tomorrow

[sly raptor]

Thank you

[solemn cypress]

Have you checked if the button works in other games? You can also check in online: https://hardwaretester.com/gamepad

[sly raptor]

I have checked yes, works everywhere but Valheim

[solemn cypress]

We had few reports of players not being able to open the map in general and also not being able to manually save.
Can you still open the map by using "M" key on the keyboard? Please also test a new world as well.

[sly raptor]

Controller map button doesn’t work on a new world either but the keyboard M does so I’ll take it. Appreciate the workaround.

[solemn cypress]

Btw. on which MacOS version are you playing?
I was wondering if 3 things would make the map work on controller also:

• Disabling Steam Input for Valheim in Steam Library (Valheim properties in Steam library → Controller).
• Adding Valheim to Input monitoring in MacOS Settings → Privacy & Security → Input monitoring → Add Valheim app (this usually helps controllers that can act as both gamepad and keyboard).
• Resetting Valheim controls by deleting Valheim.plist file located at ~/Library/Preferences
• Trying out the previous Valheim version (Valheim properties in Steam library → BETA → choose default_old (this would confirm that there is a problem with the latest update).

Let me know when you find the time to maybe test some of those

[turbid thorn]

↑ That's a nice thorough rundown!

[sly raptor]

It’s running macOS 14.5

I’ll have some time tomorrow afternoon to test those out. I’ll let you know how it goes.

[sly raptor]

Unfortunately none of those worked. I tried 1 and 2 both separately and together for both the current and the previous version.

I didn’t have a Valheim.plist file at all in that location or in any of the subfolders in there. Could this be my problem?

[solemn cypress]

More specifically, it should be in Users/YourUser/Library/Preferences
Try changing the view from icons to list.

[sly raptor]

I still wasn’t able to find the file, I did a file search under my user for all .plist and nothing comes up that way either. It’s a Mac air so I’m wondering if that’s part of the problem as well.

[manic parcel]

So it looks like for some reason the map button is wrongly assigned for Xbox series controllers on Mac - can you open the map with the "share" button instead? It's button number 5 on this graphic https://support.xbox.com/en-US/help/hardware-network/controller/get-to-know-your-xbox-series-x-s-controller. We'll try to get this fixed anyhow.

[sly raptor]

This worked..I appreciate it. It’s nice to have my map button back on the controller.

[coral mulch]

Crazy question.

Will the headphone port, on a MacBook Pro 10,1, work a trrs jack steelseries headset?

[solemn cypress]

Not really Valheim related, but from what I read online, it seems like it should if headset uses CTIA wiring standard.
Check with apple support?

[coral mulch]

You’re right. I apologize. Thank you

[sharp ingot]

Im playing ona Mac using Game Center. I would love to try playing online but there are no servers under the community tab. Any help would be much appreciated. I am new to the game and new to discord. I am a noob all around, but noobs want to have fun too.

[hard fog]

Valheim has no free-to-join hosted servers. all servers are hosted by other players

[sharp ingot]

Does anyone know of a server I can request to join that works on a mac running Valheim through Game Center?

[solemn cypress]

You can check #1024264966712340510. You would only be able to join servers that have crossplay enabled on them.
However, you should be able to see the server list when you click on the community tab. Try leaving the tab opened for 2min or type something in the filer box (like the word "world"). All the servers that might pop up will be password protected.

[sharp ingot]

Thank you!

[turbid thorn]

Just wanting to check up on the mod injection fix for macOS builds, see if it might get released soon or if it'll be waiting to be released alongside other changes.

[manic parcel]

It's going to be released alongside the next update

[hushed abyss]

Hey! Does anyone else have issues running the Steam version of Valheim on Mac? Mine gets stuck during the first loading screen and after a couple of minutes it crashes. I was playing it fine for about a month after the initial release, but haven't played since and now I can run it anymore 🤔 I looked at the Player.log file and there's no error there

This log file has Unity's logs redirected from the default location, for the original please see ~/Library/Logs/IronGate/Valheim/Player.log
[Apple.Core Plug-In] Initializing API Availability Checking[Apple.Core Plug-In] Availability Runtime Environment: macOS 14.5Privilege Multiplayer is not known on this platform. Privilege therefore is granted without check...Privilege UserGeneratedContent is not known on this platform. Privilege therefore is granted without check...Privilege CrossPlay is not known on this platform. Privilege therefore is granted without check...10/12/2024 20:34:49: Set background loading budget to Low
10/12/2024 20:34:49: Fetching PlatformPrefs 'GuiScale' before loading defaults
10/12/2024 20:34:49: Fetching PlatformPrefs 'GuiScale' before loading defaults
10/12/2024 20:34:49: Starting to load scene:start.unity (169d7618616154c03be07e9ad3af5893)
10/12/2024 20:34:49: Set background loading budget to Normal
10/12/2024 20:34:53: Set background loading budget to High
10/12/2024 20:35:06: Set background loading budget to Low
Only custom filters can be played. Please add a custom filter or an audioclip to the audiosource (Amb_MainMenu).10/12/2024 20:35:07: Missing audio clip in music respawn
10/12/2024 20:35:07: Using environment steamid 89xxxxx
10/12/2024 20:35:07: Using steam APPID:89xxxx

[turbid thorn]

What's your method for launching the game? Steam will need to be running in the background it provides some APIs the game uses.

[solemn cypress]

Which model? M1?

[hushed abyss]

Launching from Steam directly

[hushed abyss]

M1 Pro

[turbid thorn]

And when you say it crashes, @hushed abyss, do you mean it exits and you get a crash reporter dialog? Or it just stalls and you get beach balls. If this is a new world, excessive Loading time and "not responding" state is expected. Just an effect of the world creation process.

If you're getting the crash reporter dialog, a paste of the crash report text would be helpful

[vapid wharf]

This game runs on Mac?

[turbid thorn]

Yep, and pretty well I'd say. My personal recommendations are Steam version (instead of App Store) and to re-map command-key things to the middle mouse button. It performs better on the arm64 macs, but is still usable on x86_64 w/ discrete GPU chip.

[vapid wharf]

Good t I know.

Good to know

I love Macs. I just don't play games on them.

[hushed abyss]

I get the beach ball loading and after about 2 minutes it crashes without opening the crash reporter

I saw a post on Reddit advising to start the game in window mode and small window dimensions, but that method still doesn’t work for me

[solemn cypress]

Yeah, the most of the Mac crash reports happen on M1 chips for some reason

My guess is that FPS stops being limited during loading screen so the part of the world that needs to be loaded and rendered crashes the game

Similar thing happens on Windows for laptops without the dedicated GPU and they overheat pretty quickly

Can you see your FPS while the game is loading when you enable Steam FPS counter?

[solemn cypress]

@short bear Have you maybe had the chance to check if BepInEx loads properly for you on latest PTB?

[hushed abyss]

not sure what happened, but the game is running fine now 😅 I tried launching it multiple times and no issues anymore

[slim bone]

Hello all, I wonder if anyone else has this issue. I installed Valheim and played for the first time last night. I have an M3 and loading the game via Steam and I have an Xbox controller via bluetooth. I had terrible issues with the game where the menu was stuck in the up direction and when I did eventually manage to get into the game the character just kept punching. The only way I could stop it is by clicking on the screen with my trackpad. Has anyone else had this issue? Thanks in advance.

[slim bone]

I'm just replying to myself, I read through all the replies from DEVs etc and found the solution. I needed to give access to the game in the Privacy settings! Cheers

[native elk]

Hi there! I've been experiencing this issue all day today where I'm having connection issues to a server that is launched by someone else and it's terrifying me to play because I don't want to lose everything! But it's just having connection issues and it's not linked to my wifi as I've reset it - not sure what the issue is, but all help would be lovely!

[turbid thorn]

Wi-Fi Is not a good fit for real-time gaming, especially if you live in an apartment or condo complex. That said, it could easily be something outside of your control, like a problem with your ISP, the server's ISP or a problem with the PlayFab Party relay if the server uses crossplay.

If you have no choice but to use Wi-Fi, you could consider trying a 2.4 GHz SSID if there are multiple walls between you and the access point. 5 GHz and 6 GHz are good when in the same room as your AP.

Also make sure you don't have any VPN or Internet security suite software hijacking the connection.

[hard fog]

https://tenor.com/view/all-of-this-pointing-up-there-see-this-gif-14720503

[rustic pollen]

Mucho Importante as they say Next Door ..
I'm running a dedicated server (in fact, three of them in parallel) at home on WinServewr2019 that also hosts a network monitoring solution.
The crew and I were suffering from rather frequent issues with server-sync (blinking icon top-left)
I found this to be a problem with port-exhaustion and had to bring down time_wait into 20 seconds via Windows Registry

I cannot, however, see how someone's Server is causing an otherwise healthy client's connectivity issue

[slim bone]

I wonder if anyone else is having this issue before I raise it. I have an M3 Macbook with 32Gb or RAM and I am finding that when I play Valheim the fan pretty much comes on straight away and stays on until I end the game. I play graphically intense games like No Man Sky and Snowrunner and the fan never comes on, have anyone else experienced this or have any ideas as to why it happens. Cheers in advance

[alpine pagoda]

No man sky and snowrunner might look "better" than Valheim but might have less computations to do compared to Valheim, for every instance of a tree, ground and such it needs to calculate things and that requires processor speed, with more calculations going on the processor heats up and in turn your fan gets turned on.
Also it is still a game in development and hasn't been optimized yet.

[slim bone]

Superb I thought as much, great response and much appreciated 👌

[hard fog]

I would advise you to either use V-sync in graphics setting. or put a cap on FPS ingame since valheim will make as much FPS as it can (within reason)

[slim bone]

Thanks very much for your advice, i will do that. I was surprised considering I have 32GB but I suppose these days that's classed as low 🙂 Thanks again

[hard fog]

it's usually your CPU/GPU and not the amount of RAM

and it depends on your RAM speed more than the amount

[steel pawn]

Just an optimization difference, my M1 Pro does the exact same things

[rustic pollen]

I cannot speak for MAC, however, as this appears to be an item on that platform, my money goes into "optimisation", rather than CPU/GPU utilisation/exhaustion/demand.
32GB RAM is plenty, take my word on that one.
Other than a memory leak, I haven't seen a single application (apart from seriously large SQL Servers) demanding that, or more

A;ternatively, and coming from a Windows-World.
There are power profiles that can be adjusted - if a Win-Machine is set to max-performance, it'll likely cause similar symptoms by clocking the CPU into max. rate, which will spin up the fans and make your laptop make noise like an f-16 on takeoff

Tuning this down to 80% max on the power profile stops that nonsense and I haven't seen any performance impact

[steel pawn]

The only way for Mac to be able to do something like that is through third party apps (most of which are paid subscriptions). You’re basically stuck with what you got with Mac’s unless you’re willing to pay more

[hard fog]

it's usually a combination 🤔

1. how much FPS do you expect?
2. how many FPS can you produce?
3. what kind of hardware do you have?

[pallid pike]

just in case it wasn't clear, the controller problems in the bog witch update also impact apple users on mac.

[slim bone]

Yes I have just had that issue. I was having slight issues before the patch but now it is pretty unplayable! I cannot select anything in my inventory for example. Do people use the Steam Controller support or have they got that disabled? Thanks

[solemn cypress]

You can also switch back to previous game version if you are playing on Steam, until the fix for this gets released.

If you are playing on classic controller layout, you should be able to use Dpay for inventory navigaton with no issues.

[slim bone]

Hello, ah I couldn't see where to revert back but I will check that out, but first I will change the controller layout. Do you use Steam Enabled or not? Thanks again

[turbid thorn]

Just a nit on the patch notes, I'm assuming it meant to read Application Support instead of ApplicationSupport in the Mac changes section? There had been a confusing ApplicationSupport folder or shortcut created by a series of Adobe software releases back in the day, but the practice has long since ceased.

[slim bone]

I can't seem to find on Steam a way to revert back to the version of the game before this latest patch, can anyone guide me here please? Thanks

[tame hinge]

I presume they mean here

[solemn cypress]

You should note that once you transition to an earlier game version, the saves you once loaded on the new version, won't be loadable on earlier version anymore. You can restore earlier saves in the manage saves menu (button in the starting menu), finding a world and character save in a format: savename_backup-timestamp (no word "auto" in the backup name) and then restoring it.

[slim bone]

OK thank you, I am actually sharing the world with a friend and we are using a server based solution, will that pose a problem if he is on a newer version than I am ?

[slim bone]

Thanks bud, much appreciated 🙏🏻

[solemn cypress]

Both of you and the server would have to be on pre-Bog Witch update. If you are all on Steam, switching woudln't be a problem.

[slim bone]

Ah OK, so I am Mac, my mate is Xbox and I have no idea unfortunately how we update the server version. Would that be a manual step? Maybe that could be my problem if we have to update the server too

Ignore the above question, I have found out thanks.

[solemn cypress]

Server is not problematic ti update but Xbox can't revert to an earlier versions unfortunately, so you will unfortunately have to wait for the fix if you wanna play together.

[pallid pike]

has their been any change with the recent update that makes Valheim turn on Secure Input mode?

[slim bone]

I have just come off a 3 hour session with a mate and extremely pleased to say that I had NO controller problems and all (apart from the share button mapping that is incorrect) worked well - thanks DEVs 👍🏻

[strong river]

Im having an issue on the steam variant on mac. The game won't get past the splash screen. Device is macbook pro with m1 pro

Here's the player.log

[solemn cypress]

Yeah, there's something wrong with M1. All is fine then all of a sudden they can't launch anymore. Have you tried restarting the machine?

Have you recently tried disabling Steam Cloud or anything like that?

By the player log it looks like the game doens't register steam as running

[strong river]

No, i have disabled the invasive steam backgroup process though

But im not sure if thats the problem

the ipcserver

[solemn cypress]

That might be the issue actually

[strong river]

Ah

[solemn cypress]

Why was it invasive? Too much RAM usage? Or got a report from Mac that it's acting suspicions?

Recently Steam BETA should have few fixes on how much Steam helper processes use RAM

I know that current version has problems with spiking RAM usage when game with overlay gets relaunched every time

[strong river]

Ill just reinstall steam and valheim. Hope that fixes it

ipcserver used to be a major system slowdown. Might have been fixed though.

Seems like that fixed it

Thanks @solemn cypress

[alpine bramble]

Hi I have been experiencing an issue where i cannot launch valheim at all. Tried a few weeks ago and hoped some update would come along to fix it but no luck. M1 Macbook Air with Sonoma 14.1.2. Verified game files. Installed on an external ssd

[turbid thorn]

Installed via Steam or Apple App Store? And how brought to the external SSD? It's reminiscent of an issue that's been fixed, but if you manually copied it to an external SSD, it's more likely it was indeed damaged or at least modified in a way that breaks signature integrity depending on how it was copied.

If you copied over an old version, you need a complete replacement of the .app directory, otherwise residual files will count against the hashed "code directory" that has been signed by the developer or publisher.

[alpine bramble]

Well I deleted the folder and reinstalled directly onto external ssd (through steam). Previously i installed on internal storage and then moved it. It works now BUT trying to launch directly from steam I have this error. Clicking on the app inside finder launches fine so just a quality of life bug now

I think its probably because the external ssd is formatted case sensitive but thanks for the help

[alpine bramble]

(and changing the name to small v doesnt let steam launch it but instead causes it to try to download again. works fine launching manually)

[turbid thorn]

Cool, glad you got it further, @alpine bramble! The last bit is likely a bug in the Steam configuration. That's often publisher's domain. @hard fog, looks like main app bundle was renamed from valheim.app to Valheim.app in the Sept 12th hotfix, but Launch Option 2 in Steam wasn't changed to match
https://steamdb.info/depot/892973/history/?changeid=M:3540458686177232597

Will affect those running on case-sensitive file systems. Given Apple's out-of-the-box system drive format is case-insensitive, it probably hasn't been hit often.

[hard fog]

not sure. but I can forward it

[turbid thorn]

Sorry to @-mention on a weekend. If there's a better avenue for reports of that nature, lmk. You and Love are just the friendly faces I know. 🙂

[turbid thorn]

Another bug, this on the software side: the Dedicated Server for macOS doesn't seem to call Game.OnApplicationQuit on SIGINT or SIGTERM. It pretty much terminates immediately with no fanfare, and most importantly no world save. Could be an issue on the Unity Player side, I don't know enough to dig deeper. Have only tested on x86_64.

Update: reported as https://view.monday.com/boards/4511671930/pulses/7769841552 (internal)

[manic parcel]

This is a good find and something I discovered during development but unfortunately didn't have time to remedy properly. As far as I can tell, it's a Unity thing since sending those signals on Linux for example does let OnApplicationQuit run. Gonna look into it some more!

And regarding the launch option / casing stuff - while I don't have direct access to the Steam backend we've asked those at IG to fix this as well so it hopefully won't be an issue going forward!

[hard fog]

https://tenor.com/view/this-deathmonkeyxl-deathmonkey-this-post-this-message-gif-24125642

[pallid pike]

bringing this up again. I've got the macOS ^F3 disabled. However, I can't do ctrl + F3 to remove UI. I press fn + ctrl + f3. And get nothing. Note that fn + f2 gives me the debug window fine. And fn + f12 triggers Steam to take a screenshot. This is driving me crazy. 🙂

[solemn cypress]

Tried toggling it via controller? (altbutton + start)

[pallid pike]

motherfu...

that works. i have literally never seen a reference to that. THANK YOU

[viral sluice]

I have been dealing with lots of crash to desktop and a couple total reboot crashes, Mac Pro 2019 (Intel) with Steam Valheim. I thought it was my graphics card (was the original Radeon Pro 580X, so bought a GIGABYTE Radeon RX 6900 XT (GV-R69XTGAMING OC-16GD), now the crashes are less about reboot and mora bout crash to desktop, uninstalled game, ran vanilla and still crash, create new char and crashed while doing intro scene.

[viral sluice]

Here's some output from the process when it dies, always seems to be in the same place in the code.

[solemn cypress]

What's the longest you've gone without a crash?

Using mods?
Tested previous game version again?
Tested different renderer?

[viral sluice]

With the new GPU maybe 5 minutes of run time, uninstalled everything, and reinstalled vanilla, still crashes. I am usually playing with ValheimPlus mod installed and on a dedicated server I run, my wife doesn't crash as often, maybe once in a while, hence why I thought bad GPU and bought a newer one.

[viral sluice]

It was crashing with previous game version. I tried a couple -foce options like -force-opengl, -force-glcore, -force-glcore32, -force-glcore40 those all fail with "Error: no such function: mono_jit_init_version" before even running

Tried "-force-gles" but doubt it did anything same crash same place in code, and same for -force-d3d9

for fun I launched Windows 11 under Vmware Fusion 13 and played the game from windows yesterday for hours and didn't crash, even in the snow storm in mountains, which almost always crashes me to desktop or reboot.

[hard fog]

first thing I come to think of is heat 🤔

[turbid thorn]

I'm sorry to hear of your issues, @viral sluice. The 2019 Mac Pro has worked well for me. I have heard of others having driver/kernel crashes on 6900 XT. The prior little workstation card ought to have at least been ok though.

What version of macOS are you running? Are you running any screen overlay or color changing software like f.lux?

Agree with Smiffe that heat is a possibility, especially if the chassis fans are blocked or clogged. Worth running Apple Diagnostics if you haven't already. It's activated by holding D on boot.

[viral sluice]

Not running f.lux and I disable the steam overlay, I cleaned the machine out before when it was doing full reboots with the original Radeon Pro 580X in it, and again when installing the 6900. My wife also plays and she has close to same setup the big difference is mine has 96Gb of RAM and Xeon W with 28 cores and she has 12 cores, makes me wonder if its some sort of threading issue. Yesterday I got a fault that was caught in the kernel w/o crashing the system and hit the report button but I doubt Apple is proactively doing much for MP 2019's anymore.

Intestering part is under Window 11, in VMWare Fusion 13, I can run for hours on the same machine, I'm setting up bootcamp to see if that is the same to see if I can rule out hardware issues. I might run Apple Diag but all my ram is original ECC and no errors reported in the System Info reports.

I'm running latest Sequoia 15.1 and no non-apple kext's loaded.

Other interesting tidbit is I have three 4k 27" monitors but wife only has two, but I tried disconnecting them and go single monitor but still get crashes randomly.

At this point I think I'm dealing with a kernel bug and not so much the game, especially considering her experience and seems many of you are doing fine.

[spring badge]

Hi mates, I have a more “basic” problem: I bought the game in AppStore on my MacBook Pro M3. After downloading the game does not run the installation process with the message “download not possible. Valveim could not be installed, try again later”
Any idea how to solve it?
KR

[solemn cypress]

Do you already have a Steam game version installed?

[spring badge]

Yes, I have! But I uninstalled Steam on my Mac to make sure it will not mix up the installations?!

[solemn cypress]

Have you uninstalled entire Steam application, or have you uninstalled Valheim application on Steam platfrom?

[spring badge]

Just uninstalled steam. That might be the problem. I’ll give it a try

[spring badge]

It worked! Obvisioly Valheim gets confused with separate installations via Steam and AppStore!
@solemn cypress Thank you very much!

[solemn cypress]

Actually both the Steam and AppStore installation should be independent now.
There was an issue in the past game versions where they were not.
The issue might be that the Valheim you had installed on Steam was an old version of it?

[spring badge]

Yes, could be, but I’m not sure about it

[drowsy holly]

I need to be shot into th sun.

As someone who's previous Apple product as an ipod in 2004 (and largely stopped using Macintoshes in the early 1990s), I bought into the M4 Mini (base) price hype. Because I'm an idiot who does all of their stuff via remote, I spent the week with it via Remote Ripple (from the makers of TightVNC). It was "usable enough" to do stuff like install Parallels (and Windows 11 under it) but overall felt sluggish and playing a video really revaled how poor the default VNC is as a remote protocol.

This afternoon I did a deeper dive and ended up with free-for-indivudals to use app Remote Desktop Mananger that supports the Apple Desktop Protocol. I was led to believe ADP is rally just VNC with a better video codec and maybe that's true because it turned a "meh" experience into a "oh hey, I could see using this" one.

About 20 minutes ago I installed Steam and Valheim and...while obviously not as fast as playing on my PC, it was completely playable!

Kill me now.

[hard fog]

sounds like a win if valheim works fine 😮

[turbid thorn]

The new animated login screen backgrounds are a bit intense for remote desktoping, I must say.

[hard fog]

what kind of system

[turbid thorn]

Oh, on macOS, not Valheim, hehe. They made these pretty moving HD backgrounds on Sonoma and Sequoia, but it's a heavy workload for the initial stream of a remote desktop session when connecting over the Internet

[drowsy holly]

Ah, good call on the animated backgrounds! I re-enabled them to test and they are also "fine" using Remote Desktop Manager.

For me, the biggest remote use advantage is wheel scrolling. Using Remote Ripple (from the makers of TightVNC which I had assumed would be dedcent) it was so slow I assumed it was an incorrect System Settings value. Using RDM, it works within my expectations.

It all seems weird to me because I've been using Windows Remote Desktop for years and am able to effortlessly use my work laptop (and expand its screen onto my local laptop and external monitor). It's a solved problem on that platform and I was kind of surprised that "VNC or paid third party app" was the Macintosh answer so I took the deeper dive yesterday.

Again, this is not an advocation of using Macintoshes remotely expecting anythng close using a local KVM as intended. I bought this base M4 Mini almost entirely on the insane (low!) price without a specific use case.

[slim bone]

I did the same with my M4 Chris, but I am so glad I did when I discovered Valheim 🙂

[autumn citrus]

Is her any way to mod the game for mac?

[turbid thorn]

Yeah. You will have to run the game with an x86_64 emulator if you're on arm64 mac. There aren't as many quick-start "packs", but you can certainly do it. Are you on Steam version or Apple App Store?

[autumn citrus]

On steam, i have a windows but i am asking for a Friend. I think he Is on mac m1.

And where he can download the mods than. Nexus?

[pallid pike]

hi all, just noticed the map button my xbox controller is no longer functioning. I see reference to this bug previously here: #mac-bugs-discussion message

[manic parcel]

So now the map button should be correctly assigned to the "view" button, instead of "share" which was wrong. Which button are you trying to use?

[pallid pike]

button #3 is what I've always used

and i just tested again and confirm it still isn't working like before. This is Steam version on macOS

[solemn cypress]

Could you test if it works when you switch to previous game version (steam → library → valheim properties → beta → switch to default_old). Test new character and new world (don't use your current save on earlier game versions).

[pallid pike]

sure. let me try

been a long time since i generated a new world... heh

[pallid pike]

i can confirm that setting to default_old, new world, new character, button #3 brings up the map like expected

[manic parcel]

Yeah so in last update we included an upgrade to Unity's input system that fixed the map button for Xbox Series controllers on Mac - unfortunately that same update seems to have broken the button for Xbox One controllers. I can confirm it's broken and hopefully we'll get it fixed before too long - sorry this is happening to you!

[latent epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/hizzie-cat-gif-21331848

[hard fog]

https://tenor.com/view/programmer-developer-debugging-code-testing-fixing-gif-7663766

[pallid pike]

No problem. At least the m key works 🙂

[turbid thorn]

Pre-built mods you can grab more readily on Thunderstore. Here are my basic mac instructions for someone with some shell knowledge:
#mac-bugs-discussion message
but if they are on m1 like you say, they would likely need to install an x86_64 emulator like Apple Rosetta 2 then add arch -x86_64 to the beginning of their run, as I don't think there is BepInEx mod injection for arm64 yet.

[stray coral]

Is this new

[hard fog]

Its a very old meme

[alpine pagoda]

As old as code itself but there wasn't a gif of it in the beginning.

[sinful nova]

is there metalfx on valheim ?

[turbid thorn]

Unity's position a couple years ago was that they would never support it.
https://discussions.unity.com/t/metalfx-upscaling-support-on-apple-platforms/895745/2

AMD FidelityFX Super Resolution is available as an upscale filter in Unity, though. If it's ever added to Valheim options, it uses mostly the same tech as MetalFX does for upscaling. Smiffe hinted "probably not" this past summer. I'm not sure where Iron Gate stands with it currently.

[hard fog]

Valheim don't support DLSS nor FSR. there is not really a need for it.
I've talked about this before multiple times with our programmer

[hard fog]

Ah, the old "squashed by wall by door bug

Not often someone actually is recording when it happens 🙏😅

[marble harness]

I've been getting a game crash ever since swapping graphics cards. It doesn't seem to be a hardware crash, just the game, and so far only Valheim. Other games work great. I'm running the steam version of the game on a 2018 mac mini with a razer core x egpu. The game ran flawlessly with the RX 580 that I had, but had poor performance in snow storms. I got an XFX Speedster SWFT 210 Radeon RX 6600 and the game looks great, but the game crashes 100% of the time within a minute or so, especially it seems with a sudden movement (jump and turn). I've tried various settings, resolutions, fullscreen on/off, and two different characters in two different worlds. I swapped back to the RX 580 and everything works again. Back to the RX 6600 and the game crashes again. This is solo play on my machine, and no mods. I've seen others in discord with 6600 graphics cards mentioning issues as well, but not really seeing a fix. I'm happy to do further testing and provide any info if it would be helpful if this is a bug. I'm also open to suggestions on known working (mac/egpu) graphics cards in the $200-400 range.

[hard fog]

did you totally clean all your old GPU drivers and re-install them?

even tho it's AMD to AMD. you might want to reinstall drivers

and don't click any performance boosts within the drivers to make valheim run better

those usually just makes it worse 😄

[marble harness]

I'm not sure how to go about that on a mac. The only thing I installed was a driver for the Razer eGpu itself.

[hard fog]

did you swap the card inside the Razer eGpu dock?

[marble harness]

Yes

My understanding is that mac os supports specific families of AMD cards and that is all built in. I could be very wrong about that though. After swapping the cards, it took a moment but then the display came up and mac os recognized the new card.

[turbid thorn]

That's correct. The AMD+Apple collaboration driver ships with macOS. The latest version of the extensions are shipped with the OS updates. If you've already upgraded to the max macOS patch release for your hardware, there may not be much more that can be done from the driver side. There have been some ways of getting drivers for OS versions above your hardware support using Dosdude1's toolchains, but this is of course experimental/unsupported.

You could play around with your Energy settings re performance/standard, you could see if the crashes are represented in Console at all. You could try disabling some of the advanced shader stuff from the game graphics menu, like Bloom.

Sorry this is happening for you. If it makes you feel any better, that model sometimes had persistent crashes for Windows gamers too.

[marble harness]

Thanks for your response. There is a new update to macOS that I will try. The last update a few weeks ago didn't help. There are crash logs available and I will try to see if I can decipher anything meaningful from them. I may also try dual booting and see if I have any better results with linux or windows. Finally, if it is a bigger issue with the 6600, is there a known more reliable card I might look for? I can still return this one, I just don't want to go through all that and find the 6800 (or whatever) has the same problems.

l

[turbid thorn]

I have no advice on a good fit, unfortunately.

[solemn cypress]

Hm might be something with 6600 specifically. I did a hackintosh setup on Ventura with i5 and 6600 but also crashing quite quickly. Haven't tried tweaking various things in order to make is more stable.

[mint kindle]

Help! I've played around 80 hours on my mac mini m4 base model and now I can't load into the game at all. When I open on steam it takes me into full screen and shows gets stuck on the black "valheim" loading screen. If I don't do anything it eventually crashes, but if I click my mouse it gives me the spinning wheel and then crashes anyways too. I've tried reinstalling, turning off game mode, verifying integrity of files on steam, and making sure other apps were closed.

[mint kindle]

Fixed! Just restarted the computer ahaha simple fix

[short bear]

Hey, good day to you folks. I have a problem with the App Store version of Valheim.

I can't read my own signs. It always complains about some "UGC settings".

When I enter the same identical world with the Steam client, I can read my signs just fine.

And what's even weirder. When running the App Store client, I can remove the sign, put it back on, and I still can't read it.

Anybody any ideas? Thanks!

[short bear]

Another thing: I've used the "find" command across my entire drive to find a seemingly still existing settings file, but I can't find anything. I've deleted all files that I could find that remotely might be related to being a settings file and STILL Valheim loads my previous settings. I'm growing nuts here. I've even deleted and reinstalled the game, because I thought it might save it in the app directory somewhere. Also, to no avail. How the heck does Valheim still find my old settings, if I have deleted it? And yes, I've disconnected my LAN cable.

[short bear]

Also, yes, I checked the usual places:
~/Library/Preferences
~/Library/Application Support
~/Library/Containers

[hard fog]

https://www.reddit.com/r/valheim/comments/195du0e/ugc_settings_on_steam_version/

something like this? 🤔

[short bear]

Hey, @hard fog Well, it's not chat for me, but just the signs. But yes, the message is identical.

But they also talk about Windows and XBox, and I'm on a Mac.

And the Steam client works just fine. It's the App Store client.

Gaggh... yes, I can't read signs, just like that user on Reddit. But it's my OWN signs.

[solemn cypress]

It's not a bug on Xbox. Chat, signs, or names of named animals get filterer on Xbox platform and AppStore

Privacy setting for Xbox account and Mac account have to be adjusted to see signs

I know where to tweak Xbox account privacy setting, but not sure about Mac

[short bear]

I have everything turned off in that regards. Steam client works just fine.

[solemn cypress]

Steam doesn't have filtering

[short bear]

And thank you @solemn cypress for trying to help.

I have no filtering in place whatsoever, at least the settings I can find.

And again, I'm playing solo, and it is my OWN signs.

[solemn cypress]

I don't have this issue on my end, and I couldn't reproduce it.
Just saying that on Xbox, it's not a bug, and it doesn't matter if you play in multiplayer or singleplayer.>
Xbox has separate content maturity privacy setting for multiplayer and singleplayer, which all have to be adjusted to see the text.

On Mac, it's probably a bug somewhere.

[short bear]

Which is weird, as the Steam version just works in that regard.

[solemn cypress]

Steam version doesn't have text filtering of any kind.

Appstore and Xbox have to have text filtering

[short bear]

That is so stupid. 😛

[solemn cypress]

Any which things get filtered isn't decided on Valheim settings

[short bear]

If they want to show somebody a dick, there's other ways of doing so. Gosh...

[hard fog]

yes

but Xbox wants the game makers to ensure people cannot write whatever they want and not be lieable

[short bear]

And Apple's obviously the same in that regard. 😛

So... how do I get rid of that?

[hard fog]

make a mod I guess 🤔

[short bear]

😛

[hard fog]

or don't stare at the logfiles 🤔

[short bear]

I have everything turned off. This should not happen. I have a look at the log.

The log doesn't mention anything.

[hard fog]

do you get them as popups ingame?

[short bear]

Yes.

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If I hover the aim cross over a sign.

[hard fog]

what exactly is written on the sign?

[short bear]

1

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